Paul & Morgan VS Jesse Lee Peterson (Christian vs Christian DEBATE)
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Paul and Morgan Debated Jesse Lee Peterson and CRUSHED it! Things get heated!!
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Did you guys have fun?!
Yes. Did you have fun?
Your baby is an angel
.....................Doing what?
yes i did! i love your videos so much. also your hair is absolutely gorgeous!
Beta!
"It's not up for debate." -Jesse Lee Peterson, during a debate
God help us all
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So? I know 100% surely, what Jesse means by that, and he is absolutely right.
The topic at hand being debated isnt up for debate? Lol @@kimmonurmi3074
Man.. he really hates women a lot huh..
well to be fair, they hate him too. and all the sane ppl also.
Shame. I was going to try to slip in his DMs…
he probably got rejected or if he was ever married his ex-wife took everything away...LOL
@@magnificat_orig that's why he hates all the sane people too
jesse is a beta male
paul ab morgan’s mom: “she’s a good woman!!”
jlp: “there’s no such thing”
paul: “yes there is buddy”
the attitude i LOVE
Second time on Jaclyn's channel I've cheered for Paul. Paul has a tendency to push my wrong buttons, he isn't my cup of tea. Darn right that I cheer on a man for defending his woman and in laws.
@@spamachuchan8824 when he brought out the bible verse, i never freakin screamed so loud for a christian man to preach before. paul LITERALLY read this man for filth. XD
JLP: "I don't hate women"
Also JLP: "There's no such thing as a good woman."
@@joannajett2524 to be honest, single moms kids are doing very bad in life, both parents kids do avarage in life on overall and single father kids do above average in life. You can check the facts for yourself if you want
@@joannajett2524 There's no correlation at all between those 2 statements, try learning English.
"I don't sin" I'm pretty sure any Christian would agree he just sinned with pride, which is extremely bad. Lol
All of those men (minus Paul, only a little though) sin is pride.
Yeah, the whole thing about being a Christian is that we aren't perfect. We will never be perfect but we are forgiven of our sins.
Where does it say that? In a book translated millions of times, or in your heart which was placed there by Jesus? You hate white people "Costanza", and that's why you're even saying these foolish things.
Yes the bible literally says “if we say we have no sin we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us” 1 John 1:8
Pretty sure he doesn't read the bible regularly, he seems extremely bitter
42:35
Paul: Is anyone on the panel married?
“Experts”: No. Nope. No.
Paul: …okey.
I am so serious I CACKLED
I never thought I would take Paul & Morgan's side in a religious debate.
right!? like he next level crazy
They're your average Christians debating Christian white supremacists I think so of course the answers coming from that side are completely irrational.
You can just see how baffled Paul is that someone this ignorant could possibly exist. He tries soooooo hard to reach a rational understanding. They both kept their cool pretty well. Much better than I would have been able too.
Yeah, I'd have lost it with him the second he started asking have I forgiven my mother, I adore my mother and I'd probably be dead without her so I'd have got him told straight to keep her name out of his mouth. I'd ask him back, have you forgiven YOUR mother because it seems like she's caused you to hate women!
Yeah, good for Paul.
I was positively surprised how Paul defended Morgan multiple times. This also revealed their "power balance" in their relationship. Its not as onesided as some of their past videos made it seem. Sure Morgan still puts Paul higher than herself but they share some ideas of equality and sacrifices go both ways. To me it doesnt sound ideal but at least it seems like Paul cares for Morgan and that they both are happy. And that makes me happy
Well someone who worships their spouse more than their God can't really be trusted.
@@CC-ed9lf god is god, a spouse is your life partner. if you think trusting someone we cant even PROVE EXISTS over your fucking partner is right.. youre as bad as jessie
Poor Morgan, I could have cried at the amount of disrespect towards her and her family. She handled herself extremely gracefully.
Amen, she was a great representation of what a Christian should be. Juxtaposed with... JLP and his esperts ... None are married... So their expertise is in... ? Not the bible either as they don't read that!
My heart lowkey broke for Morgan when Jesse asked her “what’s it like knowing you’re just like your mother?” Knowing how he feels about women, that’s honestly such a hurtful thing to say. I’m not even a huge fan of Paul & Morgan but seeing the way he talks to Morgan, I just want to give her a hug.
That's pathetic on your end. Get ahold of your emotions.
Same. It was clearly just to get a reaction out of her.
@@commodore6430 it’s called empathy you should try it sometime
@@van2165 I have it. shut up.
@@commodore6430 I can’t speak to you when you are being so emotional. Please come back when you are ready to have an intelligent adult conversation 🥰
As a wise person once said, it's hard to win an argument with a smart person, but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person.
God I wish the red haired woman would shut up and stay away so I can just watch for a few laughs. Damn she is an irritant😊
And completely impossible to win one against an insane person.
I think Morgan is more independent & self sufficient than she comes across sometimes. I have the feeling Paul & Morgan have a more equal partnership than they give off but that's just my opinion!
Same
I think you're spot on
I think Morgan does believe she should "submit" but she's mentioned before that she struggles with it. I could see them drifting away from that way of belief, I hope!
That's what I was thinking! They're probably just very different on camera. Plus they haven't been married for that long so they probably just had to get use to it, get comfortable with each other. Maybe in the honeymoon phase she was playing off the more submissive side to be the perfect christian wife.
Yeah definitely. They honestly grew on me. They are more genuine then one might think at first.
Their faces. Morgan looks done at the beginning. Paul looks like he’s trying to see if he can find out what Jesse Lee Peterson actually believes in everything he’s saying until he realizes that that’s ACTUALLY believes. Also, I love Paul’s outburst about Morgan’s mom. “SHE’S A GOOD WOMAN!”
@Rose Anne Boushard bruh what is this homphobic insult. Like all you guys have to bash people is slurs and ignorance
@Rose Anne Boushard so you a gay man telling someone he’s a beta bottom because he liked gay porn? You think that makes it better? Doesn’t matter if you gay as well it’s just as bad. Why you putting people like gay porn as “betas”. Never even heard one of my straight friends say that bruv.
@Rose Anne Boushard ig it's ironic, but I just think it's stupid and offensive to call anyone a beta male :/ especially for liking gay porn or their mother in law
@Rose Anne Boushard lmao
@Rose Anne Boushard what are you even going on about
Look at how proud Paul is of Morgan throughout the video. He's like, "You don't even need me, you got this!"
“Hold my flower”
It's nice to see Paul get fired up about Jesse's sexism. That moment of "yes there is!.. BUDDY!"
Yea, I was pleasantly surprised with Paul's defense of Morgan and her mom. I mean, that should be a bare minimum in a marriage of any kind but, sadly, people like JLP (and many, many others) make it look like a rarity in a Christian marriage.
"God changed my heart from hate to love"
... If that's love I'm scared what hatred is to him
Mhmm
Late commenting. Everything JLP said was incorrect and not Christian. You can say you're Christian but that doesn't make you Christian or save you from damnation. He can say he is a Christian and say what he said about women, Christian and God. He has a darken heart. If you're a Christian you love everyone. He is full of hate and resentment. Him and his "experts" sound like Incels. In other words, BETA!!!
Jesse Lee Peterson: No women can love.
Proper response: No, Jesse, women are capable of love. Maybe not of loving you...
literally..... i wonder why incels could never score a woman... probably because they always had hatred towards women and expressed it openly. how do you expect a woman to love you if you don’t believe in her being strong and independent by herself??? i can’t believe how unaware he is of how he sounds...
I dont think he is capable of receiving love, or deserving for that matter.
It's weird how women don't love misogynists.
It's almost like they don't like being hated.
@@ireallyreallyhategoogleGo grow for couple of years more, and let's see then, if you could truely understand how 100% truthful JLP is. All these young people in this video don't understand almost anything about themselves and real life either.
Few people can love a person like that..
It baffles me that there are still people like this in America. He makes Paul look like a raging feminist in comparison lmao
The fact that he believes men can do no wrong at all once they’re saved is actually TERRIFYING to think about.
it screams of narcissism
Religion is the problem. Abolish religion
@@littleharmony8123 I think it has more to do with narcissism and the inability to admit mistakes, but yeah abolish religion
@@littleharmony8123 eh idk about that. This man has ISSUES. Religion didn’t make him this way. His childhood did lol
I'm a Christian, for lack of a better term, I don't agree with a lot of mainstream Christians. In some ways I am more conservative and in others they'd think I'm an outright legalistic heretic. The fact is- Christianity has its roots in Biblical Hebrew culture. So.....a lot of Christians are severely anti-Semitic and also sexist. Nonetheless, true, Bible based Christians have respect for the Hebrew people and their history and elevate women. A lot of people, like Jesse, claim the title Christian and dirty the label for thousands of people who absolutely disagree with him. Also.......Jesse is so disrespectful to other African Americans. His disrespect and hatred for Black people and women is so disgusting. He is what the Bible refers to as one who should be very wary because he has led so many people astray. He doesn't listen to any opposing thoughts. He is an echo chamber unto himself.
Jaclyn, while you and I have a lot of things we don't agree on, I enjoyed listening to your views on this debate. Because, there's also a lot we do agree on- like decency and kindness to other humans no matter their background or labels. Thanks for being kind and civil, Jaclyn. You had me laughing at your awesome remarks towards Jesse.
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“Women hate all men” he says to a woman, who is literally sitting next to her husband
as a black Christian, we DON’T claim him🙅🏽♀️😤
As a man, we DON'T claim him either
Keep him
As a Christian... we don't claim him
God here,we don't want him ether
@@whocares3591 😂😂
This isn't even a debate this is just him attacking poor Morgan. Paul literally has to 'jump in' to be part of the "conversation" lol.
Peterson doesn't have the juevos to actually debate a man. He only has the juevos to challenge women because he views them as inferior.
@@KellyDVance I actually believe he secretly views them as superior and thus the absolute misogynistic behaviour towards them
@@barbomb91 self-delusion is a hell of a drug.
@@barbomb91 he has to safe himself from the fact that he isn't superior realizing that would hurt him so much what else does he have in life except the lies he tells himself ...
Actually if you watch the whole thing Paul never really defends Morgan, JLP attacks Morgan and Paul just tries to kiss ass to Jessie, it’s actually kinda sad
Paul standing up for his woman and her mother... We stan a loyal king.
I officially respect Paul.
I finally understand what Morgan sees in him. What a cool dude.
I haven’t seen anything with them in ages (I haven’t been to this channel for a while) and wow I feel so different about them now.
PS: Paul and Morgan, while having said some pretty out there statements themselves, have earned much of my respect for not only standing for their own perspective and beliefs but also, not letting themselves get pushed around by Peterson. They stood their ground while this man was getting them in traps, looking for soundbytes he could use to say "I got them." But he didn't. Very objectively, he behaved like an asshole. Again, good on Paul and Morgan for having the patience to do this and I'm glad that they're setting a precedent in which Christians can disagree with each other.
I would say it's also VERY important that toxic and hurtful viewpoints (like JLP's) are countered by other Christians because, frankly, it's a lot easier for criticism of interpretations and beliefs to be taken seriously when it is coming from fellow Christians. And while I disagree with Paul and Morgan on A LOT of their interpretations of Scripture (submitting?? WTF??), I still respect them for trying to bring love, light, hope and kindness into the World. And kudos to them for showing others that you can be Christian - even a "Bible believing" one - without being a hateful misogynist.
Be careful calling saints bad words. You are going to catch hell.
paul's face when the panel admits to all being unmarried is the absolute hugest mood
Is it weird to say that I'm kinda proud of Paul? He really stuck up for Morgan and he made some really fair points. JLP was so incredibly disrespectful, The whole time I was saying "Drag him, Paul, drag him!" Morgan was also really quick on her feet and I'm so impressed at how she responded to him - she has the patience of a saint! Honestly, I really respect Paul and Morgan for having this debate and also growing and evolving this friendship with Jaclyn and vice versa. Conversations like this need to happen more often.
eta: I want to offer Morgan a very strong ibuprofen because I'm getting a headache just watching it, nevermind having to respond to his crap.
ikr like Jesse makes Paul look like a communist
Paul looks left leaning in this video.
Paul, Morgan, and Jaclyn becoming friends was not in my 2021 bingo card but its a very wholesome development
Your evolution with Paul and Morgan is what our country needs right now, respect and non combative conversation. We can believe different things and coexist peacefully. Someone isn’t evil or less deserving because they have opposing views. I myself believe in God but that’s MY choice, you don’t need to feel the same way to get my respect
If only this attitude could extend to other areas as well, such as politics.
Amen. Well said.
Humility is the root of all wisdom.
Very well said! I am not a Christian nor an atheist really. If I had to put a title on myself, I'd say agnostic.... I guess. I believe there is a higher power. It could be God or it could be something else that we don't even understand or have a word for. I don't worship the devil. I don't hate anyone. I respect everyone and whatever their religion or spirituality is. I have some friends that are Christian. I even have some friends that are Muslim, and we all get along!
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Somebody needs to ask JLP if HE’S forgiven HIS mother. Just the fact that he asked that of Morgan leads me to believe dude’s got major mommy issues.
I love that you continued filming while nursing and loving on the little one, amidst a debate over women being evil and incapable of love… I know you were just feeding your baby, but I couldn’t help but chuckle when I realized how your embodiment of love and nurture in those moments completely contradicted JLP’s ignorant views of women… Friggin perfect! OMG you’re awesome! ❤️
I grew up christian, and though I'm no longer religious, hearing "women aren't special" [in the eyes of god] still hurt my feelings a little bit. I can't imagine how hard that must have hit Morgan, a core christian belief is that all people are loved and special in God's eyes. The entire interview made me feel so angry on behalf of Morgan, I wanted to scream !! Shoutout to Paul for standing up for her when he could.
Jaclyn breastfeeding while destroying bigots in her atheist channel is another level of awesomeness!
She’s a mama bear and we stan.
Are you calling Jesse and his experts “bigots?” Bigots hate the gay community and immigrants.
@@IWantToMature85 To my knowledge bigotry is a general term and one who hates women can also be called a bigot. None of the previous 180+ people who liked my comment corrected me on the use of the word so this probably shows I am using it correctly.
@@IWantToMature85 bigot - a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic towards a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.
Yes, they're bigots.
@@IWantToMature85 yes they are bigots
I love Morgan just bursting out laughing at him, like this guys insane
"God turned my heart from hate to love"
"Theres no such thing as a good woman, all women hate all men, women shouldn't be educated, everything the touch turns to hell"
Theres so much love here...
🤣🤣🤣 IKR!!! Glad I'm not the only one who caught that. Wish someone would throw it in his face. But it probably wouldn't do anything.
Yeap, the irony lol.
Idk how to put this into words but when I was religious - I guarantee you 100% of christians I've met/been surrounded by never ever ever said "the bible isn't meant to be read" or "I've never sinned after baptism". Usually that was labeled as hereticism. That man is crazy even by christian standards
When David came in and you told him women were incapable of love and he said “It’s because you guys got educated” I damn near died🤣🤣Great video👏👏
I’m thinking his “experts” are just people who agree with him lol
“Esperts” 😂
The ONLY people in California who agree with him.
Aren't those the best experts when you have a biased close-minded view of reality?
And what exactly makes them experts?
@@InHitchWeTrust Nothing, and that's the point of the comment you replied to.
“SHE WAS A GOOD WOMAN” “No such thing” “YES there is buddy” I’m starting to like paul and morgan more and more lmfao.. never thought i’d say that
It's so frustrating to listen to these men. The claim that women cannot raise children without a man? Gross. My parents were married my entire childhood, but they shouldn't of been. I feared my dad, his temper was awful, it just wasn't healthy. Now? I'm raising my niece, along with my sister and my mom. She is 3 and has three strong women raising her. She has so much love, security, happiness, and peace. She is the happiest child, he is so toxic.
Same situation here. And they're still married. I'm so sorry that you had to endure that pain. Truly. Sending you all my love.
And you know these men are not active parents either. I guarantee that they would expect her to do all the grunt work while they drop in every so often to drop pearls of wisdom and demonstrate utter disrespect for their mother.
That's kind of a false equivalence. Because you were raised by a poor father, does not mean you could not have turned out better with a good father.
@@djayt1215 Or it's not for YOU to fuckin say one way or another. If your argument boils down to "Well technically it's possible you could have turned out been better, right?" Well no shit, genius. I just wanna make sure I got this right: You think he is right because a HYPOTHETICAL parent technically COULD have been in the picture? This really the hill you wanna die on?
Your father wasn't a good father because he never overcome the spirit of his mom. What your mom doesn't tell you is that she had a part to play in as well. Always two sides to every story. Women use children to get back at the father to turn the kids away from the father because they hate men just as you do. your mom ain't no angel. And so, it takes 3 strong women to raise a little girl. If ya all so strong, why does it take 3 of you to raise one person? That's not healthy for the kid. she's gonna be confused.
I LOVE how Paul went off at the end trying to LEAVE like dang. Also Paul being so protective of Morgan is so sweet, my initial vibe of him was that he was Not Great, but I have mad respect for him protecting her and trying to get Jesse to just leave her alone for a second. I'm more agnostic than anything else, so I'm proud of them for at the very least trying to call Jesse on his shit.
protecting Morgan? That's the most beta male I've ever heard of. Jake is definitely a beta male. You can see it from 5 miles away.I see protecting your daughter or wife, but if you're trying to "protect" your girlfriend from words you don't like, I'm sry but you're a beta male wuss. She probably already been cheating on him.
@@commodore6430 I cannot tell if this is a joke or not, so I'm going with joke
@@mikhaylaschull5913 idk what was said in there that would make you think it's a joke
@@commodore6430 first of all who's Jake? and second of all, are you a troll??
Well, I think Jesse is the only one in that debate who hasn't "forgiven" his mother and is still angry from the time he had to do dishes when he was a kid
At this point, I think, Jesse had a truly upsetting past with his mother.
Apparently he was raised by a single mother. So is there a hell in her too?! lol
@@foreverhilaryy Well, I'd hate to know what she did to him if he sees women like this.. :/
@@phangirlable I agree, I really don't see a normal person speak like that. It's quite concerning, maybe he should see a therapist 😅
exactly !a woman raised him ,I guess that why he’s turned to hell😹😹😹but he thinks he’s all that ,so I wonder how he goes around that.
This man needs therapy
They came across level-headed and inquisitive, especially in contrast to Jesse, who is a personified brick wall. Paul was cordial yet sharp, Morgan was relaxed and stern. They’re a good team when they work together.
Jesse's shocked pikachu face when paul asks if any of them are married is amazin.
he should have asked him why he had a child out of wedlock but claims he is without sin.
I want to rewatch this and make time stamps for every time you say, “thank you, Paul!” because those moments were the best.
This is such a breath of fresh air, and I thoroughly enjoyed seeing this side of Paul and Morgan, and I agreed with you that it was lovely to see him being protective of her.
*PrOtEcTiVe oF hEr* He's just afraid of her. she controls him and you love to see men being controlled by women. That's all that is.
@@commodore6430 boy what hahahahaha
@@tr0ubledl0ve Beta
@@commodore6430 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I've honestly never really liked Paul and Morgan until recently. I really do believe that the meeting ya'll had has changed everything. It proves if we humble ourselves and make connections, we will actually see we have more in common then we think. I'm honestly impressed by them lately. Really looking forward to this one. 🖤🔥
Same. I wasn’t a huge fan but they’re so much more likable now. I still disagree with them on many things but I can respect their opinion. I still can’t stand how they gate keep Christianity though. I think that is toxic.
I found them to be a cute and like minded couple. Yeah, some of their opinions and views are shitty, but I never found them off-putting. Simply wrapped up in a religion that is wildly archaic, but it helps them. Religion overall is for people who have a lack of structure and arguably self responsibility, blaming god and satan on all their choices. Lots of people have this issue though, and often people fall to religion or politics to have blame and hope. human condition I suppose. I am not that different, often finding myself looking outward for my personal decisions and consequences, be it absolution, praise, etc.
I think we dislike in others what we see as failings in ourselves.
You shouldn't just like them though because they side with your beliefs here or Jaclyn's belief. They're open to agreeing with you on some things, but you don't want to agree with them.
i agree
and i get the feeling that he really loves and cares for her. despite the (what i find to be) weird 'the women must submit to the man' thing that they both seem to follow, he seems to respect her and treat her as his equal.
@@cfgp So long as they are both on board, it is the same thing if they were in a BDSM relationship where she calls him Master and such. If it makes them both happy, then weird or not, its them making their own choices for their personal happiness.
It's very disrespectful for Jesse to call Morgan "Mama" when she has struggled with infertility.
Oh really I didn’t know that I don’t really watch them.
That made me cringe like ugh I would never want any man that Is not my partner call me “mama” 🤢
@@tiffanygutierrez4559 I would only want my kid call me mama not my partner😳
he shouldn't call her that even if she WAS a mother
@@ontxtteredwxngs
Agreed. You shouldn't call any woman Mama unless she is your mother. I'm just saying that it adds another layer of disrespect.
“Why does feminism exist” well…bc of people like jesse😂
I spent the first sixteen years of my life in the Pentecostal church where every week a man would get behind the alter and start screaming about an oncoming rapture. NEVER in my LIFE have I ever heard a Christian claim that once you have Christ in your life, that means you are perfectly christ-like. It's extremely unchristian to claim such a thing. I'm actually floored that a religious man would ever say that (unfortunately I'm not too surprised by the sexism and homophobia)
Everything about this man screams “mommy issues.” Why else would he constantly ask people personal questions about their families the way he does during debates?? He has some serious shit from his childhood he needs to work through.
That's like 90% of his "arguments" too.
yeah he genuinely sounded like he believed morgan hated her father whilst not knowing anything about her familial relationships
Because you are your parents. In order to truly understand them, you need to have an idea of what their parents were like.
@@commodore6430 nah. You are not your parents lol. And his questions about family are always soooo far out of left field and constantly implying that his guests MUST have bad relationships with their parents. Not necessary at all in a debate
@@shelbert You're born through your mother and your born in her image. We're all born into sin and it's all about overcoming that image and returning to the father. mom's push children away from their father to get back at thr father.
“The hell that is in Morgan” Poor Morgan. She’s so sweet. There is no hell in that woman.
Debatable… have you seen their other videos? 😬
@@maynardewm There's definitely no deliberate evil in Morgan. Misguided and wrong beliefs, yes, but it's not anything a person could call "demonic".
@@maynardewm Being wrong doesn't necessary mean you're evil.
@@cheeto.burrito yeah maybe someone could make the claim that she’s homophobic because she had said some stuff like that before but she doesn’t mean any harm she is wrong in her view but she is kind
@@cheeto.burrito What’s misguided/wrong?
So as someone who was raised by insane Christian parents and have known people both like Jesse and like Paul and Morgan, I gotta say I have mad respect for Paul and Morgan. They stood firm and used the Bible to throw Jesse’s points back at him. They genuinely had me rooting for them. I myself gave up on Christianity as a whole (as a gay man whose family pretty much hated him for it and was condemned by his church why would I wanna go back) but it’s good to see that there are still lights in that dark hole of a religion. They have my respect as if it were up to me I would have cut the debate before I said some horrible things lol
This video energized me quicker than a red bull. I've never rage cleaned so well. Thank you for making this, and thank you Paul and Morgan for actually standing their ground. I'm no Christian, but I respect them more now.
I’ve been watching you since 2014 and one of the things I love about you is that no matter who it is or what internet drama has transpired you treat everyone like a human and potential friend.
Jessie thinks women shouldn't be educated and therefore they definitely shouldn't work yet they don't even know how to raise kids 🤔 so what can we do Jessie? I doubt he'd know, I bet he's never had a woman in his life. He's got serious issues towards women, I'd love to know his upbringing. He's also racist towards his own race. He's fascinating in the worst way possible, like a car crash or something
My guess is that he'd let a woman take care of the kids as long as the man is there to tell her how to.
Sort of a slave for raising kids and cleaning.
He is a fascinating case.. he is probably the most deluded person I've ever seen. I've never seen anyone make such incomprehensible arguements so confidently.
@@FirstNameLastName-ic1tn That in itself is a wonder
Adding to the engaged twice comment, he was also allegedly raised by a single mother, became a dad at 19 and didn't stick by the mother of his child and is estranged from his son. Which is hella ironic cause one of his racist tropes is calling black folks (specifically) immoral for having children out of wedlock.
@@FirstNameLastName-ic1tn Shocker
"In 2019, a person who was considering marrying a woman who had a previous child conceived by rape called Peterson's radio show and was told by Peterson "Do not marry a woman...who already has children. It's bad enough on kids when they don't have both parents, it's worse when a so-called step-parent steps in....they want their natural father and natural mother, and especially their natural father"."
that dude is truely an asshole.
He's trying to be Socrates but he lacks the logic Socrates had. He's just asking questions thinking he's doing something 😂
Let’s not pretend Jesse knows who Socrates is
As a woman raised by a single mom, i'm so hurt by his statements.
I usually dont care about crazy preachers being assholes, but remembering how much my mom sacrificed, how much she suffered, how much she endured, as a single mom in her 20s, after being abandoned by my biological father, who never payed for child support or made an effort to see me...
Man, it breaks my heart. She was working crazy shifts, getting her college dregree and raising a little girl by herself, she was overworked and stressed, not to mention the heartbreak of being left by her husband and it took her years to recover.
Yes, i am a depressed adult, but not because of my mom, she did her damm best, and it's not because my dad was such a loss, but because he made me grow up thinking i was disposable. If not even you dad wants you, who will?
And there is no critcal thinking that will get you out of it. I am working on these issues to this day.
Sorry for the ramblings, that statement just got me so upset.
This man doesn’t speak for you or me. He’s projecting maternal issues that he never sorted out, mixed in with a mental disorder and alcoholism. if you can see these dudes for who they are, you take back your power and their words roll off your back
Your mum sounds great. This idiot man is so twisted he can’t see reality, don’t pay him any heed.
My mom was also raised by a single mother (My grandmother) because my mom's dad abandoned her. But I guess my grandmother was the evil one there 🙄
Maybe your mom made better decisions with men, your life wouldn't be so tuff
@@basicstickfigure1087 More like if there weren’t as many cowardly men, always there when it’s all fun and sex but running away scared when it’s time to deal with the consequences of their own adult actions and leave a person to whom they promised the world all alone facing the biggest challenge of her life, then maybe people’s lives would be a bit less difficult.
Paul and the protective quality about Morgan! I wasn't sure about him before but he came across well in this. And Morgan with the sass and expressions!
Also: "Wbat did i say that was misogynist?"
MAN, I HAVE A THESIS ON THIS, SO GLAD YOU ASKED!!
I feel like JLP is spiritually abusive. It made me sick to my stomach to hear and see how he was being so disrespectful to Morgan. It is horrifying that he believes he can do no wrong and his beliefs > the Bible.
His line of question is literally like me walking up to a complete stranger and asking "When did you realize you are a murderer?"
"Oh I'm not"
"Yes you are, you just don't know it"
"I'm taking the bibles word over yours Jesse"
Boom Mic drop !
That awkward moment when you realize Paul and Morgan are the sane ones next to Jesse Lee Peterson.
Same thing happened with ray comfort, jaclyn covered that too
I’m a Christian and very religious and I am GROSSED OUT by Jesse Lee Peterson’s statements!! Paul & Morgan do a good job of keeping their cool, and I think Jaclyn did as well when she was out in a confrontational situation.
I have a theory about JLP:
He mentions that women can't raise children without men to guide them. My theory with his women hate is that he has some pent up trauma from possibly his mother and may have had a terrible childhood from that. Definitely not an excuse, but it would explain why he's so disgusting towards women.
Yeah it would be. That sort of explanation almost makes me feel better, because if this shit comes out of nowhere and people are just this hateful and bigoted for no reason then that is kind of way worse.
@@NinjaOutfitInTheWash I mean, there are definitely ppl who are just disgusting for no reason for sure, but in JLPs case, I think it's more from ignorance and deep rooted issues. Not only was it the women can't raise children without a man to guide them bit, but he also kept mentioning Morgan's mother as if her mother was the root of the "evil" that's inside Morgan.
Either way, him and his "experts" give me very much jaded incel vibes.
freud would have a field day with this man
Yeahh I agree cuz seems to be projecting his own mommy issues onto Morgan. (And also all women)
He can't have a good mother figure in his life... She'd have smacked some sense into him by now... Like the BEEETA he his
It seems to me that Jesse hates himself almost as much as he hates women. I honestly believe that Jesse's narcissism is a cover for his self-hate.
Jessy hates no one.
@@XOX-ZOMBIE-XOX LOL. Okay. Whatever you say...
all narcissism is a cover for self-hate
If a person hates himself, why would he need to cover that? Oh wait, is it because most women cover theyre intentions behind nice behaveior and doing that all the time makes you think thats how all people function? i see........
@@the_super_six found the incel!!!☝️
Paul: "Are any of you married?"
"...No."
Well I am shocked
So because their not married, they're not allowed to have a viewpoint? that's like saying you're not black so you're not allowed to have an opinion on racism. that's stupid.
@@commodore6430 no one is saying theyre not allowed to have views, just that it's not really surprising no woman has wanted to marry them with said views
@@Coppergasm How do you know no women has wanted to marry them? You don't know anything about their personal lives. You're just making shit up and assuming. Cuts against the legitamcy of your arugument when you just make shit up for convince of your arugument
@@commodore6430 I'm not making shit up. They're not married therefore they haven't managed to "land" a woman. "Wanted" was a poor choice of words, because I did look it up and jlp has been engaged twice (genuinely shocking this time) I just preferred it to "landing" a woman, cause I don't believe there's a huge population of women willing to put up with that for a lifetime. If he doesn't value women, why would he value A woman.
Morgan has so much sass in this video, I'm so proud of her!
It's really funny how Jesse keeps saying "if men were in charge"
Like, dude, were already there.
2 things:
1) Paul and Morgan killed it, I can’t believe I’m saying this but they were SO good in these debate.
2) Your baby is ADORABLE ❤️
i was actually so surprised to hear paul and morgan say that men and women are equal because i really thought they believed that men are above. i mean they still do believe in gender roles but at least that’s a bit less harmful than saying women are below men.
I mean it's certainly a good thing that they think they believe that.. I think? But in reality they don't actually believe men and women are equal in society, they think men are by default the leaders of the household, which obviously puts men above women.
What they do believe is that men and women are equal in value, but not in power.
@@MaMastoast true i guess in a way. but ik he’s said before they got married he was thinking her music may take off and she’d end up being on the road a lot. so i think they’ve always been open to things like both men and women having careers n stuff like that and being equal on certain things. not stuff so restrictive as “nO !! women must stay home and spit out babies 😡😡” so idk. i guess yeah in ways they still do have that mindset but in other ways they’re better than other christian people we’ve seen??? idk
They might believe in something similar to my friend who is a Christian: they believe that men & women are fully equal in society and that both serve different purposes but in a marriage the man is the leader.
I don’t agree obvi but that’s a commonly held kind of not-quite-progressive-but-not-totally-fundamental Christian belief.
@@brie hey, Christian here 👋🏻 I think their beliefs line up with mine (from what I've seen): I believe men & women have equal value, both my husband & I work full time jobs & both of us have equal part in raising our daughter & household chores.. but I still consider him the leader of our household. What this means to me (& a lot of other Christians) is that we discuss any decisions we make together, but if we don't agree on what to do, he gets to make the final decision. I hope that helps
@@facepalm18 ayo i’m a christian as well actually ! and yeah. i knew that’s what they were getting at and probably how they operate :) and if that’s what works for them (and you ofc based on what you said) that’s great! personally not my thing tho like for me if we don’t agree we can compromise or something but every person and household functions differently and that’s 100% valid. as long as there aren’t any harmful misogynistic beliefs like i mentioned in my first comment like a man being above a woman and women having a lesser value. and as long as a couple is happy with whatever they have goin on yk.
lmao paul’s frustration “you word things in a way that’s like…” although it’s an incomplete statement we all know what he’s feeling and wanted to continue to say. tell me why i like paul and morgan now
I wouldn't go that far as to say I like them, but I definitely feel relieved they aren't so extreme in some areas.
Someone needs to ask Jesse why he hates his mother lol.
That guy's like a little kid who "cleans" his room by shoving everything into the closet and thinks STANDING IN FRONT OF THE DOOR will keep you from noticing
I absolutely love this new positive energy between Jaclyn and Paul and Morgan. Anyone else just love this??
No just me?.... okay
I love it!
“Do you love white people?” I genuinely never laughed SOOOO hard in my life
Jesse is very racist
"You don't look like an Atheist :/ how did that happen to you?
Ohhh I remember him saying that 🤣🤣
CHRISTIAN VS ATHEIST is the video lol
"did you have fun?"
*Jacklyn looking totally confused*
"doing what?"
"this"
😅😅😅 The dude is a few sandwiches short of a picnic
i really want to see what happens when he meets someone from a non abrahamic religion.
@@kybercat7 he will still say "that's not the right religion or gawd or something" I have family who believe in that
WOW your hair is ON FIRE! Almost literally.
I am kind of enjoying how Morgan's anger/shock reaction is at first nervous laughter. 🤣
I also love that Paul made them admit they're just a bunch of incels.
Not everybody bases their entire life around sex. some people actually have substance and personality.
@@commodore6430 dude, incels by definition base their entire life around sex and the pursuit of it. Their whole identity is that they want sex and can't get it. Lmao 🤣
@@lindseymaher9618 No. It doesn't Just because you haven't had sex in a long time, doesn't automatically mean you base your life around it and that you're angry about it. There are plenty of men who really don't give a shit. We live in this hyper sexualized culture so much so that if you don't have sex, it automatically means you're mad and hate women. Not everybody bases their entire life around sex. If it happens it happens.
I think Jesse is just extremely delusional. As a Christian we DO NOT claim him. I've said many times I'm not a big fan of Paul and Morgan because to me as time has evolved we have to understand that the bible is stuck back in time. They sadly take it to literal for the time we are in however I am seeing that maybe they are finally understanding that things aren't as they were when the bible was written.
I have argued that point with Christians for years! Thank you! As the days go by things change. We have to learn to adapt and change too, and it's human nature to not want to "change". Some people are just so set in their ways. They just will never change. The bible was written so long ago when times were SO different! I even think the constitution should be rewritten. It came in effect in 1789! So when the constitution was written slavery was going on. Women weren't allowed to vote, get an education, work, or drive. I think they need to revise the constitution. I would also like to see the Bible rewritten, modernized. The Bible talks about slavery numerous times, and slavery was abolished in 1865! So I'd like to see a really holy, Christian person rewrite the Bible and modernize. I have a neighbor who is always quoting scriptures to me, and she'll sometimes take it to far and try to stuff religion in my face. I consider myself spiritual but not religious. I like crystals and insence. I am skeptical about these powers crystals supposedly have (I believe anything is possible, but I don't believe anything, and I question everything until I see it with my own eyes.).bI've been collecting crystals since I was a kid, and I have crystals set on display throughout my house. I think they're pretty! And I have Incense holders in every room. I like to keep my house smelling nice. My neighbor who is almost radical Christian says I'm bringing the devil in my house with crystals and insence.
AMEN!!! He is so very very the opposite of the Bible and Jesus teachings. This man is not a Christian, i am sorry, he just is not. Everything he says and stands for is opposite of the word of God. He probably attracts men who hate women and he is leading anyone who follows him and believes the crap he says away from the Lord.
Nope, he's Christian and he's all yours. Nobody else wants his ignorant ass. So, if he says he's Christian, we have to take him at his word as a representative of your religion. Don't like it? Do something about him.
@@abbytodd2070 the biggest issue is when King James had the Bible translated to English, he influenced them to change things to for HIS lifestyle. The wives submit to your husband verse for example. The literal translation of the original text does not mean submit, it means “to walk along side, not ahead or behind”, i had a friend who went to seminary to learn to translate because she wanted to understands Gods word better, and this is an example of how starting with The KJV things got distorted. The Bible is not down on woman, not truly, I suggest the Christian Standard version if you wanna read and it be understandable.
@@HeatherlinnDorkGirl This is the whole issue and the one, true, original error of Protestantism. The SOLA SCRIPTURA Lutheran dogma, a~500 year old dogma btw. It was never intended to be that way. Now, it is "this translation is wrong, this one is correct" - (Jesus Himself quoted the Septuigant, and the NT was written in Greek, so... the Greek however, do not believe in the Bible Alone dogma though, they aren't Protestant, that is), or, the claim that the OP makes in this thread - "well, the Bible is just outdated, ya know, get with the times". Both are wrong, as is any other personal interpretation (which, btw, is wirtten in the Bible itself, not just once either), because the original presuposition that anyone can read the Bible and interpret it the way they want to, is wrong. There is a reason why Jesus instituted the Apostolic succession and gave them AUTHORITY to continue spreading Christianity throughout the world. The Apostles did just that, but none of them taught that all Christians needed was a copy od the Bible and then good to go.
Jesse Lee Peterson needs to wear a helmet 24/7. Literally cannot risk damaging that single last misfiring braincell.
Yeah. Gotta take care when you only have one
I wonder who edit his videos then, because that is some anti-braincell juice right there
It's so weird seeing Paul and Morgan seem so rational in comparison to this guy. He's such a creep...
When Paul said, "Okay, that's kind of what we figured." I fucking lost it. Love you Jaclyn! 🖤
Edit: Paul should have started with the "Well what do your wives think...?" question first and waited for the guys to all say they're not married and then delivered that punchline🤣
Just because a woman has probably never showed him any interest or love doesn't mean that they aren't capable of it. Says alot about him and the company he keeps.
Jesse seems to use religion as a cover imo since he obviously believes in his own thoughts more than the religion itself.
I also have a theory he's just an energy vampire that feed off of stress and confusion lol
I believe this too but I think he's an Incel. Everything he believes about women lines up with what Incels believe. Men who strike out in the romance department have two choices. Blame themselves or blame the women. We all know loads of men who refuse to believe they have any faults....so we women are evil. So they can sleep better at night, you know?
must be why i'm so tired now and i'm only halfway through the video
"he's just an energy vampire that feed off of stress and confusion" is just perfect
Colin Robinson is nowhere near as powerful as JLP.
Honestly, Jaclyn, I think this was a win for everyone involved and I wanted to thank you for the initiative because it not only provided me entertainment but also a little hope.
Congrats to Paul and Morgan as well for taking the risks that they did and for doing that healthy self reflection.
I've gained so much respect for Morgan. I love my mom and everything but if some dude told me _I was just like her_ with in that condescending tone I would throw hands. Morgan has more patience in her pinky than I do in my whole body.
Dude, I can't stand people who use religion as an excuse to mistreat and discriminate against other people.
I had a "Friend" who kept a similar mindset, and it was just disgusting.
Minds that think like this always try to find the loopholes in every situation, and it's impossible to talk to them regarding anything -_-
Everything JLP says smacks of his own toxic relationship with his mother. She may have been an awful parent, or his own mental health couldve twisted his vision of her, or even both, and i think thats what lead to his present day opinions.
My mother was an awful parent, and my brother and I definitely struggled with hating women for years because of the trauma. It may very well be the reason/part of the reason he views women like this.
You had 69 likes, and I liked your comment and ruined it😈
Perhaps maybe his mother was also racist cause he seems to have a problem with Black people.
Honestly, I would not feel safe at all being in a room with those men, is disgusting😖 Hope Paul and Morgan continues growing♥️
Love ya♥️🥰
I love the fact that Jacqueline is being so much of like a big sister or sister like influence on Morgan and honestly it brings me great joy to think of how an atheist and a Christian can have so many intrinsic morals that are exactly the same
"You word things in a way that is like... 💁♂️😲" Paul I felt that
Holy crap how is he not canceled yet... Even weirder, he actually has woman that follow him and adore him. That's just unfathomable to me.
I’m honestly so amazed by how calmly Paul & Morgan handled this. I could feel Morgan wanting to let Jesse know that he doesn’t have to say that he’s bitter about being rejected by women in so many words. Hahahahaha
My favorite thing Jesse said in that debate was, “You can read the Bible but not to remember it.”. Wtf, isn’t that the whole point of reading, to remember what you just read?! lmao 😆
Men teaching women how to raise children or else they'll become addicts and have emotional problems 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Listen Jesse, every mental health issue I have can be directly tied to my father's presence in my life. My mother would have done a much better job on her own, and she's proving that by raising a child now that she adopted while struggling with empty nest feelings. My father has not had a hand in raising this child and I've watched my mom become the excellent single mother I always knew she could be, and it's incredible to see how much happier she is herself parenting in a less-toxic environment.
Can you forgive you're mother. 🤣🤣🤣
@@christianpastro494 If my mother has one critical flaw it's her taste in men 🤣
omggggggggg i bet when Jacklyn said "What is this man surpessing in himself?!!" i bet she never expected find out in her next video lol
My dad walked in on Jessie talking and was like wtf as well. All it took was 10 seconds 😂
IDK how anyone talks to Jesse im losing my mind just listening to this. I feel so bad for Morgan she handled herself well though.
"I never thought I would be rooting for Paul and Morgan"
"What about root for the lesser of two evils?"
"Aye I can do that!"
With all the problems with Paul and Morgan, of which there are plenty, they do seem to love and respect eachother, and any respect for women is unacceptable for Jesse
God it’s infuriating hearing Jesse ask the same questions over and over again when he doesn’t get the answer he wants. By the end they must have felt so infuriated dealing with this man. The levels of disrespect he shows are just astounding.
Especially considering he doesn't give a legit reason or anything proteining to his answers. It's all super overarching generalizations with no actual proof.