I met Paul & Morgan... Now They're Debating Preachers!
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
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Paul seems so uncomfortable with how passionate Morgan is getting and it's hilarious to watch, more power to her!
paul: crap my plans have fallen apart.
@@ddjsoyenby lmfaoo
I really feel like she isn’t intensely christian, like that video jaclyn made about Morgans past and what not
@@ghostguru9156 I feel like if she and Paul weren't married, she'd be a lot more similar to Jaclyn, tbh most of her views sound like they've been drilled into her by Paul and his uber conservativeness…well we'll see if she comes into her girlboss era after this or not…
Yes love it
Paul's obvious discomfort when Morgan gets passionate. I love it.
Right? I hope she realizes she deserves better than him.
@@shamelessmoose honestly I don't even hope that like I think that there is a good side to him I hope that all this starts both of them deconstructing and him becoming a better person
@@crystallovingfairy1 I see a lot of controlling and abusive behavior signs in Paul. The way he subtlety discourages Morgan from getting worked up over Jesse's misogynistic comments, how he constantly emphasizes how "the husband should be the head of the wife," and the way he talks over her constantly in their videos is indicative of a lot. As someone who's dealt with people like Paul in the past, I know these signs all too well. I can only hope that she's doing okay.
@@shamelessmoose I can definitely see you are coming from on that. Honestly I just hope that either she gets away or hopefully as they both deconstruct he recognizes the bad behavior and gets better
Delusional 🙄
Loved the video! Really enjoyed hearing your thoughts and we’ve appreciated getting to know you more and have this back and forth. Excited to see the next video, that should be good! 😄👏🏼 maybe even... bold! 😉
This is a refreshing corner of the internet today!
LMAO amazen 😌
this is the most wholesome thing to happen on the internet in a while
This is how public discussion is done! Thanks for being part of the SOLUTION to the problem of incivility. Nobody *learns* anything when everyone's screaming at (or past) one another, and to me that's the primary goal.
Seeing you all holding together against such dangerous extremism, gives me hope in humanity! 😊 I am an enby transgirl and there are very religious people in my own family, who are in theory not compatible with people, who literally want me dead or at least completly silenced, but they would never say anything against these extremists, because they only want to see a person like me as a threat to society. It feels good to see, that not all conservative christians are just silent about such extremists. Thank you so much! ❤
I am shocked and very impressed that Paul said he was completely open to the idea of being a stay at home dad if Morgan wanted to pursue a singing career. Props to you, Paul!
But Morgan gave up that career. Didn't he have some influence on that decision? Just saying that he was willing to accept it, doesn't mean that he really would have.
@@debc.4397 Morgan said she stopped because she was dropped by her label. She posts songs on her vlog channel
We need more respect for stay at home dads.
@@rorolilred I was thinking abt what Deb C commented too. That might be true that she was dropped but Paul has stated how uncomfortable he is with secular music, and Morgan admitted that he swayed her away from that. So it's a little confusing 🤔
@@rorolilred no it was bc she was singing mainstream songs and he influenced her by pressuring her and saying that music was bad basically. So essentially all she could pursue would be a gospel Christian singing career not Taylor swift lady Gaga Katy Perry Britney Spears type music that she was singing before.
I think it's funny how people don't understand you have to be civil with people who disagree with you for them to hear you. Honestly this is some character growth on paul and morgan's side
Yeah it actually is really refreshing to see people like paul and morgan be open to someone like jaclyn
this is a good arc
one of the biggest problems with the world today is that most people don't realize that
Equality in a marriage is not damaging, as Morgan claims - it is liberating.
Yes!! I’m a stay at home mama to be but we are both fiercely equal to each other. It’s a weird balance but you can have traditional without feeling less than your partner. It’s perfection every day and takes patience every day but it’s worth it. So liberating
@@rose-2453 the thing is about equality and freedom of choice that confuses people most. You are living exactly the life that feminism has been working towards. You made a choice to stay home and your partner made their choice to work. Y'all work together to have equal standing in the marriage and are living this loving and even traditional marriage. I'm happy for you.
@@rose-2453 Yes. And the more people realise that it's about your *choice* the more they'll realise how good it is.
Exactly! It takes a lot of the pressure off of each other when it comes to gender roles. Dads can be loving and nurturing to their kids, as they should. Being a stay at home dad is not shameful and being the bread winner as a woman is also not shameful. Some men are not as handy and some women are not as domestic (cooking, cleaning) but have stronger abilities in other categories. I say play to your strengths and support each other. Everyone should be able to cook, clean, know some basic life skills to live on their own before marriage. But again there's no shame in changing gender roles or intermingling them.
I agree!
I appreciate that Paul is willing to let Morgan pursue a career. The fact that he has to allow it makes me experience existential dread though.
Hope they can recognize the problem with that statement. If she is equal then it never should have been a question
This!
since they're becoming more open then maybe this will change though!
There was definitely a spark atleast on Morgan side. There may be hope atleast she starts to realize. She may get her own channel back an start singing. Idk about Paul though....feel like he will just find another girl to manipulate an chnage rather than actually chnage. Feel he'll "change" just enough to get paise such as him here saying he'll allow her pursue a career
@@silvermist4110 she already has her own channel where she sings, it's called morganollievlogs or something like that. And she and Paul posted a music video of one of her songs on their channel
love that you are exposing them to different opinions some christians have
I have noticed that Paul generally doesn't use many other adjectives other than bold even when talking about you. Morgan is more free on expressing her opinion on people though.
You can see paul is clearly holding back here, my guess is he just doesn't want to piss off the more radical parts of their audience too much
Y'all do seem like y'all could be "odd-ball" couple-friends. This is actually quite wholesome.
You all and Blaire White and Gothix need to do a joint video
i love it
I agree!
It's refreshing to see this take from Morgan and Paul. I believe exactly .01% of their beliefs as a whole, but it's nice to see that they have a "okay, this is a bit insane" line they can draw when it comes to something as insane as the point Jesse is attempting to make.
@@ontheturningaway Because a lot of conservative Christians will sit idly by while extreme views are spouted by their peers. Regardless of how you feel about them or their channel, that in itself is what is refreshing. I'm not a fan of theirs, and i'm not Christian, but I know a lot of conservative Christians who would disagree half-heartedly but never say a word about it because it doesn't really affect them.
@@ontheturningaway by all mean i severely dislike Paul and Morgan, however, i do appreciate that they are willing to criticise conservatives that are more extreme than them. Doesnt mean i have to like them, but it's good to See that they have a point where they draw the line.
For example, while i dislike the whole "wife submits to husband" spiel, i appreciate that Morgan at least has a voice. Their model is a lot softer than whatever is going on with the Transformers wife and whatever those dudes are spouting. They at the very least include responsibility on the husbands Part to be a decent Dude
In the past times I've seen Paul and Morgan clips, Morgan was quiet and just agreed with Paul. Now it makes me so happy to see Morgan speaking passionately, especially to disagree with harmful Christian views!
And he seems uncomfortable with her getting passionate. I hope that changes. To me, if a man doesn’t accept their partner (their quirks and passions) and they have to stifle themselves for them, then it’s not real love.
@@briannalee1998 her passion stems from her bpd... And her having come off her meds I'm sure this isnt what we think it is. He's helping her keep her emotions in check which is actually very helpful for a person with BPD who is off their meds. I mean most bpd doesn't need to be medicated. Just talked about.
As a previous Christian, Paul’s nervous laughter is actually a GOOD THING! It means he is internally struggling how to act meaning he is questioning what he shows vs, how he feels and thinks!! We should ENCOURAGE THIS!!!! God, I know that feeling all to well, it takes years to deconstruct, but once you’re there, oh...you are THERE!
I appreciate that you all came together with your differences and have civil conversations!!
I feel like Paul and Morgan don't necessarily agree with Jesse and co, but they're also struggling to explain how their own believes differ from theirs.. and ngl, that's kinda amusing to me :p I think Jaclyn set something in motion and it'll be interesting to see where it goes
Definitely
Christians can easily explain any difference in their beliefs. The other party arent true christians. Which every christian says about every other christian who has a different view.
Tbh, it gives me hope for them.
JLP is a lot smarter then they’re giving him credit for. He’s just a next level troll who takes things to extreme points
@@OurFoundingLiars I seriously doubt that. I have seen numerous "interviews" with him. He just comes off as a fearmongering mysogynist.
As an agnostic with a very Christian best friend, i genuinely love that y'all were able to find some common ground despite your differences.
I am also agnostic with a Christian best friend :)
I’m an atheist with a Christian best friend
I'm a atheist with a very Jewish friend, who's married to a super Catholic man. And they're both right wing and I'm left wing. But oh, the fun times we have!
Im also agnostic but my Christian best friend is my husband lol
I’m an atheist with a Christian boyfriend
Okay but it's so cute to see Morgan like this. I bet she is actually a big fan of Jaclyn. It seems like she's finding her voice again an stepping out of Paul's shadow. It seems like she's allowing herself be be passionate an alow her self to actually speak up an say what she's thinking
"Paul's shadow"
@@brirez7137 um yea that's what I said. Where you trying to correct me or something?
@@jasminlynch22 i think they mean you are implying that their relationship is toxic.
I don't think Paul is forcing those beliefs on Morgan. She's actually much stricter with her beliefs but the problem is that Paul is super naive and can be easily radicalized as compared to Morgan. That's where Paul's shadow came from. I hope Morgan will be less rigid in thinking and beliefs. It'll have a good influence on Paul's mindset.
I was right there with her getting fired up! I never related to her so much before
Progress, no matter how small, is progress 🥳
Facts
Them using Jaclyn's intro is the best things these two have ever done. First thing I've ever laughed for anything they did and it was them using something made by Jaclyn, which is kind of hilarious.
I see Morgan getting riled. I love her confidence. and I think she is realising she is so capable of doing whatever she wants to. I think her beliefs may eventually start to change. I think Jaclyn being her friend will be of benefit to her.
Hopefully this will be her way out. Paul is clearly trying to oppress her.
Yes! She finally has stepped outside her bubble an met someone who sees her as equal. It like when people in domestic abusive relationship see friends or random strangers in such loving relationships an starts the ball rolling of them realizing how toxic their relationship is an they need get away/out.
Morgan finally shared space for probably first time in while someone not of same belief but still in a happy marriage with a child living her best life. Now Morgan's gears are turning an she starting to want to hold herself more like Jaclyn as not just equal to lord but equal to everyone [husband including] an be able speak how she wants an not try fit so ridgetly into biblical roles.
And since was in person Morgan could really take at face value an see not eveyone who isn't Christian is attacking you when disagreeing. When video or comment Paul could easily turn it to make her more steadfast to agree with him.
I hope Morgan makes her own channel or brings he old one back to life an starts doing her own commentary and brings back her singing.
Yesss!!!! Me too!!!! I see Morgan still holding onto her Christian convictions while simultaneously being more open. Kinda like God is Grey :)
@@mintvelvet3351 agree but will say he seems to be growing a little too. Looks like he’s got some internal struggles going on.
This is exactly why I love Jaclyn, no matter her views, she always remains honest and appreciates healthy debates w/o being disrespectful.
After all the Paul & Morgan shit, she’s open to making friends and keeping it classy 🥰
Agreed. Seeing this, seeing the friendly banter with them and even other folks like banana man and everything is really refreshing. I love it 🙂
classy and this woman don't go hand and hand..
@@souldesire5932 ugh, ok Greg 😒🙄
@@souldesire5932 👌🏻 your religion keeps you bitter
She didn't in the witchcraft video where she kept being rude (as well as confusing magick with magic), but she seems like she's grown a lot now. I unfollowed her after that but she seems ok now
Morgan is calling shit out but then falls back as soon as her husband gives her the look. I know that feeling queen. Hopefully you see his true colours during the debate no matter what colour. This wishy washy man I don’t know if I could tolerate that. I just hope Paul realizes there’s no good there.
Lil Motorola I just wish they realise they are wrong too (on many things).
Hopefully this gets the kettle boiling. Soon enough Morgan will blow the whistle an had had enough being cut off, interrupted, spoken for, or hearing him twist an chnage what she said.
She even warned him about putting her in hot seat getting himself in hot water. Cause yeah that is a crap thing to do. Using your wife to prop self up while putting her down 🙄 such an old manipulation tactic to try get someone "back in line"
tbh i don’t think he’s bad though. we are all victims of experience
@@sierradavis562 exactly. That’s why I said I hope he realizes. He’s not like inherently bad as a husband, but if he continues talking over her and silencing her progression to think differently. That’s going to be a problem. I just think it will be something to watch play out and hope everything is good. That’s all really. I love that she’s challenging him to see things differently. That is good. Very healthy.
I’m a gay atheist with 2 conservative Christian best friends. I couldn’t imagine my life without them. I enjoy our time and debates
You can 100000% tell that Paul is so uncomfortable and taken aback by Morgan disagreeing with what they're saying and being so passionate. Hopefully this is the beginning of the road to Paul and Morgan becoming more equal in their marriage
I like this comment because it doesn't assume that their relationship is toxic or wrong. I believe that we should respect their relationship and just hope that they make some changes or different moves to create a comfortable space.
As a previous Christian, Paul’s nervous laughter is actually a GOOD THING! It means he is internally struggling how to act meaning he is questioning what he shows vs, how he feels and thinks!! We should ENCOURAGE THIS!!!! God, I know that feeling all to well, it takes years to deconstruct, but once you’re there, oh...you are THERE!
Everytime somebody says "wives should submit to their husbands," I feel sick to my stomach. My husband and I are a team. He's not my leader and I'm not his. We are in this life together.
A lesson a lot of people need to learn. Men and women. I'm glad you both have a healthy outlook on your approach to your relationship!
The original scripture is that wives should submit to their husbands and husbands to their wives. It's WILD how it gets twisted.
Because you're looking at the world, through a worldly lens. Not a Godly lens, because you don't believe in the God of The Bible. That's your choice. But I don't believe that you're the arbiter of what's Good and Evil.
@@Allicatxo13 No it isn't, we have all the original manuscript to refer back to. Jesus established order to the church and to our relationships. The Bible tells us that God created Men and Women differently, so that they could compliment each other perfectly.
@@nemo2341000 There's a reason there's 1 billion and 1 denominations of Christianity...your version is not any more legit than any other. If I were you, I would ask myself why I NEEDED to feel superior to women in order to feel loved/godly/etc. That's the real root of the problem here.
I'm happy you were able to bond with Paul and Morgan. We bring change thru relationship, and simple kindness goes such a long way. I really think Morgan seems so giddy over getting a new girl friend and she shares a majority of your sentiments on this particular topic. Whether they truly are happy in their religion of questioning their faith, you've opened a door for them to find a healthier path either way.
I can see the skeptic in Morgan coming out. I watched all of Jimmy Snows coverage on their debate with JLP, and Morgan is so close to questioning the right things!!
That’s a wonderful thing. She deserves better, than this oppressive way of life. I was once in her shoes and still am shocked, how I managed to get out.
Wait this is so cool and love Morgan's sass!
ME TOO!!
@@Jaclyn YES I am actually pleasantly surprised :) I'm so happy you agreed to have dinner with them!
🤮
Honestly, Jaclyn's influence may have been the very thing that causes Morgan to regrow her backbone fully, instead of kowtowing to Paul…I hope for an actual friendship between the two ladies because truly, this passionate and outspoken and opinionated Morgan is so much better than the always deferring to Paul version of Morgan
I think/hope paul comes around too. He has benefited so much from being a Christian man because Christian conservatism is meant to serve people like him. Paul is def uncomfortable with changing his mind but he shows that he is willing to listen and learn from other people.
The hate for Paul is disgusting...I truly see he's literally trying... like growing up from this mindset once you grew up with that it's hard, isn't like you snap the fingers
^^^^^^^^
I get the comments talking about how they like to see Morgan speak out and how he still seems controlling, etc, but I do agree with you that he should be given room to grow as well. In an ideal world, BOTH of them would see how damaging some of their views are for others and themselves (particularly Morgan).
Exactly. Once you’ve been indoctrinated in any mindset, it’s extremely difficult to change.
Paul's uncomfortable laughter when Morgan gets fired up gives me life
Because he knows it's goign against consevative Christian beliefs. Women are to be silent. Not have an actual mind of their own in a lot of cases. To traditional conservative beliefs, he's a lessor man because he cant control his wife and what she thinks / says
She is finding her true voice but sometimes she then slips back to her I need to hide my voice. Her passion is good Paul needs to be more supportive of Morgan's voice.
As a previous Christian, Paul’s nervous laughter is actually a GOOD THING! It means he is internally struggling how to act meaning he is questioning what he shows vs, how he feels and thinks!! We should ENCOURAGE THIS!!!! God, I know that feeling all to well, it takes years to deconstruct, but once you’re there, oh...you are THERE!
Me too!
@@lmoral222 yeah it’s unfortunate that so many people still think this way.
This video is just Jaclyn and Morgan flirting for 30 minutes straight lol in seriousness I do think it is good for people of different beliefs can come together because it helps everyone
You mean 30 minutes gay?
i disagree, especially when the bleiefs of paul and morgan are extremely detrimental to ppls lives
lol I ship it XP
@@skybear17 they would actually be considered moderates in my country(as in the norm or average person).
@@skybear17 true, but you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar. And if you think about it, being rude and angry just proves their point (to them) that they're in the right. I think if we meet people with compassion when we are in a safe space to do so (mentally and physically) then we can help open their minds.
It's official Jacklyn can turn anyone to normalcy.
Not Onion!
@@Jaclyn of course not he's 🥜
@@Jaclyn legit came here to say this.
Disclaimer:
Everyone except onion
@@Jaclyn well, I mean.. I think turning Onion to normalcy is a step beyond miracle work :p
Can’t turn Blair white
what you said about paul and "bold" was spot on 😂
"Bold" sounds like a Minnesota-nice word. We also sometimes say, "That's different," in place of, "That's weird and I don't like it."
@@indigothecat I didn't pick that up when I was younger, I'm from Vermont but my dad lives in the south so I remember visiting him and the southern girls he'd date would always call me and the things I did "different" just like that and I thought it was such a compliment 😂
@@Delihlah Oh dear! LOL, did they ever use my Southern favorite, "Bless your heart!"
@@indigothecat thankfully, no lol
This is great! You being friendly with Paul and Morgan gives this commentary is an unexpected twist I didn't know I needed!
*Paul and Morgan I don't hate you. You are both human. I just disagree with a lot you say; respectfully. *
Listening to Morgan go off is great. They have some pretty extreme views, but the fact that they (especially Morgan) are upset by this is kind of comforting.
hopefully they escape this brand of christianity.
I still think Paul is a POS but good on Morgan for returning to her roots a little bit and being so free spirited and saying how she feels regardless of how stiff and uncomfortable Paul is.
"returning"
As a previous Christian, Paul’s nervous laughter is actually a GOOD THING! It means he is internally struggling how to act meaning he is questioning what he shows vs, how he feels and thinks!! We should ENCOURAGE THIS!!!! God, I know that feeling all to well, it takes years to deconstruct, but once you’re there, oh...you are THERE!
@@TheKatarinaGiselle I hope you are right. I think otherwise but respect everyone’s opinions. ☺️
This is the first video where I can see Paul and Morgan as a happy, in love couple. How Paul 'lets' Morgan be passionate (despite it being against what he'd have in his ideal) because he also loves that about her. How Morgan enjoys being passionate, but finds reassurance and comfort in a loved one advising her if she 'goes too far' - and is happy to moderate in public for his comfort cos she loves him. She clearly gives her *full* opinion off screen to him, so feels comfortable doing that. Neither of these things are things I want, personally, but for the first time I see them as people with differences, using love to compromise unselfishly.
Dammit, do I think they're sweet now?😂
Hm what a good perspective! Can definitely see that.
i don’t see how they think women not being allowed to seek education is sexist but also want women in traditional female roles… which would mean education is not a part of that role
It's doublethink but hey at least it's changing for the better or something Since they are having to reconcile to contradictory beliefs
I don't know let's wait and see
Valid point
I don’t think it’s the education itself, but universities teaching the history of religion that is the problem with most. Comparative religion courses and religions about the Abrahamic faiths, have really opened people’s eyes to the truth, that we all have been lied to. Of course if somebody doesn’t want to know these truths, they would go to a Catholic university or a Xtian one, that will reinforce the religious beliefs.
Housewives often still go to college though.
Makes me respect them a lot more as people that they are open to even have the conversation. Great video and excited for part 2.
I feel like Morgan sees it as, dont marry a man who would tell you to do things that are bad for you...when i think the real thing she needs to see is: it shouldn't ever be up to anyone but you. Its like saying, find the right monarch vs monarchy is outdated. As Americans I feel they should get that.
Agreed. She has every right to work and build her own success if that's what makes her happy. It's not love what there preaching. It's more about control.
I agree with being friends with people you disagree with, my issue is when there’s a clear human rights difference. If you’re differing on things like religion/economics that’s cool, when it’s about who deserves basic human rights I can’t be your friend at that point.
I understand your point and of course you don't ever have to make that choice if you dont want to, but if you're presenting this as a general principle, I disagree. This just leads to people getting stuck in echo chambers. I believe that many of those people can redeem themselves but if they never have a good influence in their lives change is basically impossible
@@unkaleidoscoped8194 its not my job to surround myself with racist, or homophobic people to hopefully “change” them. I’d rather be with people who respect basic human rights since for me those are things no one should disagree on.🤷🏾♀️
@@queendeshanira6096 I completely agree with your reasonings on why you don't think it's your job to mingle with folks like that. But I think if there ARE folks like Jaclyn who are able to... it's not an inherently bad thing.
agreed
@@crarls27 I think it can be a bad thing, it can put someone in harm's way. HOWEVER I fundamentally agree with you. One of my favorite TED Talks is "I grew up in the Westboro Baptist Church. Here's why I left". It's just her talking about how the only reason she was able to understand how awful her beliefs were, was entirely because people were kind enough to be her friend and talk to her and show her. They gave her a safe space to learn and grow and eventually a safe place to leave.
I want to be strong and kind enough to be that person but I am NOT there yet. And I don't think anyone should have to be but for those who are they need to be careful it can be dangerous, exhausting and draining.
I really don’t like when people say that women should just be housewives and they can’t work because so many people that our woman need to work along with the husband just to survive and I feel like it’s a very privileged thing to say to just tell woman to stay home when they need to earn money to put food on the table.
This! It's weird how they completely ignore that plenty of women have the "choice" between working and feeding the Kids and staying at home and starving.
And thats Not even Just about single mums. What about women whose husbands are disabled? Husbands with chronic illness. Or Just husbands with Low paying Jobs? Plenty of men do not earn enough to Support a whole family, Not If they want to See their Family enjoy basic necessities. Should those men just never find love and Family Just because their jobs dont Support the picket fence Home?
Also women are better doctors. But nevermind life and death situations, right.
Morgan: (getting fired up)
Jaclyn: GUUUUURRRRLLLL
Me: GUUUUURRRRLLL
I love that you're openminded enough to be friendly with people you disagree with. That's the only way people with differing opinions could find common ground and make any progress, but there's so many that just won't entertain other opinions at all.
So true
I love how you make friends with people you disagree with. The entire WORLD needs to learn to do this. This is how we make peace. We will never all agree but let’s get along!
I love that Morgan was really outspoken about this in her responses
especially when she asked him what church did he go to and who raised him?
and Paul seemed like he was trying not to get fired up either so hopefully they continue to grow more after this video response
I can't believe i actually feel like i'm strting to like these two, especially Morgan
Yeah honesty only Morgan for me it’s cool to see that she is more then her religion she is a person who doesn’t always agree with other damaging Christian beliefs
I genuinely really liked this. It feels like an ACTUAL conversation between acquaintances (you and Paul & Morgan) instead of people who “debate” by just yelling at each other, and not actually listening to what the other person has to say.
I am all about people with different ideologies sitting down, having dinner and a Civil conversation that ends with "let's agree to disagree." That's the point of civil conversations, not to change people but to exchange ideas; even if people don't fully agree with ideas.
This just makes me so happy. It's like watching a soap on TV and you're slowly seeing the character development of the characters you started off not being a fan of. I'm excited to see where this goes.
It would be so interesting for you, David and P&M to make a song together 😄
YASSSS
@@Jaclyn I fully support this!!
They can say the man is the head of the house as many times as they want, but Morgan is the head of THAT household, clearly 😂
i saw them use your mock intro and honestly cried, like genuinely damn "if that doesnt say someone's a good sport idk what does" i love that
I want Paul, Morgan and Jaclyn to all sit down and have an open conversation
I would like that and I can see it happening
Uhhh I think they have
@@willowbrooks oh really? I'll look for it thank you
@@Raichous.mom.moments99 let me know if you can't find it
I just want to point out, that when you guys in the comment section show your excitement of Morgan being passionate and follow it up with bashing Paul it will only hurt her. They will see these sentiments, they will feel them and it will destroy any and all progress of them speaking out against these awful people. If you want to see more of this you should consider that. I believe Paul has it in him too, remember he's trying, he married Morgan and loves her(and thought he'd be a stay at home husband) but he also was raised differently. You don't need to like him, but you probably should give him the space to start feeling confident in all the things he's currently uncomfortable with. It will take time but please be kind.
EDIT: I intended this as a response to some comments ive been seeing bashing paul and calling him names or saying hes abusive/clearly uncomfortable with Morgans confidence. Jaclyn is incredibly kind I just worded this poorly!
I think her video overall was very charitable and complementary to Paul.
I don't see her bashing Paul- she's just pointing out how he's more... forgiving of these comments than Morgan is, which makes sense as he's a man.
@@ImperfectNobody oh my god i meant the comment section i shouldve made that clear my bad!!!!!
Jaclyn is nothing but kind and compassionate its why i admire her so much. Even when shes calling them out she does so kindly.
@@olhydra Sorry i worded it poorly i was referring to the commenters. Jaclyn is incredibly kind, some of the commenters however are not.
@@sofiarodriguez6768 Ahh I understand!! Thank you for clarifying!
It feels like Morgan is wanting change, and you've helped her with that in a way. I think you're slowly helping them to be better. Also, as someone whonworks in a sex shop amd has for 5 years, your ad placement was absolute perfection
Hi I'm actually coming from Paul and Morgan's Channel love your response I agree with you on some of your points
I love watching people grow up and mature. It's nice to see you all getting along.
This kind of dialogue is really important.
Look at the comparison of ideas exchanged versus Jacylnn's debate with jesse Lee peterson.
Such a difference.
i cannot wait for part two whewww it’s gonna be so good
God, so many thoughts with this video! Nice to see Morgan openly show her disapproval of Jesse's beliefs and it made me happy she didn't hold back when it came to disagreeing with Paul, even if just a little bit. I mean, she's a woman, of course she'd be pissed with the things Jesse says, now it just takes some empathy from her part to understand how many groups she's NOT a part of can be very affected by religious extremism (ie LGBTQ+ folks). Either way, great video, i'm a bit torn tho. I understand Jaclyn's case for opening a civil discussion with Paul&Morgan, seeing as they seem to be much more agreeable and likely to "see the light" (sounds VERY culty, but you get it lol) than other prominent conservatives on this platform (Girl Defined, Kaitlyn Bennet, Jesse himself, you know). On the other hand I can totally empathize with people who maybe didn't agree with her approach, since we shouldn't treat this as "just two sides of different opinions debating", because it's so much more than that. Paul and Morgan hold seriously dangerous beliefs and it's not the same as disagreeing with someone on what toppings they prefer on their pizza. Jaclyn, as a cisgender straight (not sure?) woman can easily hold a civil debate with them. Can a transgender lesbian woman? Would they be as kind and welcoming towards her? I don't know them personally so I should not assume, but just some food for thought. Guess I still need to give some time to form a nuanced and concrete opinion on this. Don't know if Jaclyn and/or Paul and Morgan will ever read this comment, but anyway, wish you all the best. :)
I was thinking the exact same thing! I wish Jaclyn would have addressed that it's not easy (or even possible) for everyone to go this route. Without mentioning that, it just makes everyone who would not be willing to do this as intolerant and close minded when that's not the case at all. It's great that she can be an influence on them (specifically Morgan), but if someone has dehumanizing beliefs about you, why do you owe them a conversation?
Trans “lesbian women” are what we call heterosexual men.
It’s rude to call women “cisgendered.”
@@renny3816 It’s rude to disregard someone’s gender identity too. Don’t expect kindness and respect if you’re not willing to give the same.
@@renny3816 i'm cisgender and i don't think it's rude :) i call myself cis all the time since that is what i am
Morgan seems genuinely smart and has the potential to be such a good speaker on these kind of things. I just wish she would break free from the beliefs that keep her down.
I try to be friends with people who think differently than me, but it's also kinda hard to talk to someone when they openly think my right to exist should be limited by legislation or even I should be killed for being who I am. Then when I try to talk to them about it, it becomes something it's not, I become a child murder in some people's eyes, like what? And then they tell others, so I stay away from certain people.
I love how respectful everything was, and discourses like this are what create healthier spaces for critical thinking (on both sides!!)
Of course Paul wants to virtue signal to Jesse that he, the man, “gives the benefit of the doubt” while characterizing his own wife and Jaclyn as trigger-happy, emotional women. This is not going to be a conversation built on respect, wanting to listen to both people, but rather two men circlejerking about gender roles and biblical text, while Morgan sits there passively, getting a word in every 7 minutes. If Paul gave a shit, he wouldn’t throw women under the bus to get his foot in the door.
honestly i agree, his behavior in this video made me quite unconfortable...
100%
I can’t wait for the day that Morgan and Paul separate and Morgan truly thrives again
@@FrauStormm wishing for other people separate? sorry but that is super scummy.
@@HazelF2000 so if I wish for a toxic couple to separate I’m scummy? Lol ok. If you watch enough of their videos you will see Paul continuously dim Morgan’s light when her opinion strays too far from his. They are not optimal for eachother. Period.
Jaclyn and Morgan would actually be besties for life if they lived near each other and could visit more often. Especially if they happened to grow up together or met when they were younger. They have the same goodness in their hearts and they find the same little things funny to boot.
"An extremely good, bad influence." - love that statement. New merch!
Can't wait for this. Been a long time fan
I love how consistent you have been even with a newborn ! It’s not easy at all please know you have many people that care about you. I’ve watched you for many years and you are one of my favorite you tubers because of how blunt you are.
I absolutely loved everything about this! And I cannot wait to see Paul and Morgan on Jesse's talk show. I look forward to seeing how it goes and how they respond to his ridiculous, misogynistic beliefs.
Mosagosnist???
@@seanbirch Did I spell it wrong? Lol oops. I hope you know what I meant
You probably meant misogynistic and I completely agree with you 😊
@@gustavedore1073 Yes! 🤣 thank you
@@seanbirch holy SHIT that is horrible spelling..😅
Hey Jaclyn! I'm a conservative Christian here from Paul and Morgan's channel. Just wanted to say how much I appreciate the way you have been able to have this back and forth with Paul and Morganand be able to discuss where you agree and really don't agree while remaining civil and even friendly with each other. The world needs more of this!
Also, I loved hearing your different perspectives as an atheist Vs their Christian perspectives on s huge topic that really needed talking about. I look forward to seeing you guys hopefully do more stuff and debates in the future... I love them!! Even though I'll probably disagree with most the videos you do haha, I wish you all the best and congratulations to you and your husband on the birth of your son!!
The crossover that everyone's been waiting for is now here.
I’ve been subscribed to Jaclyn’s channel for years and I love her, I don’t always agree with her, but I have mad respect for her. I also have been subscribed to Paul and Morgan’s channel for a while as well, I haven’t always agreed with them being a fellow Christian, but I think they are pretty great. It’s really cool to see them go from pretty well going against one another for so long to actually becoming friends despite their differences. It’s a great representation of how we can disagree on some things and still have respect for one another. I love it.
I think this shows you can deeply disagree with people on many things, and still respect them as human beings.
Awwww I’m beaming right now! 😁 They used your intro for their video!! This is amazing and I can’t say anything else.
The most important part of society is that we NEED TO BE ABLE to put our differences aside, show respect to people who have different opinions than us and WORK together to make a better world!!!!!! This is called being an adult, expanding our horizons, and growing as an individual.
I love that you guys met up and shared a meal and a nice time... People should do that no matter what their political or ideological differences are. Having a good time has no religion or politics when it's just conversation.. it's sweet you were all able to do it and share it on the internet.. really happy to see this even if it's a year later. ❤️❤️
This is what i love about u, you are such an open, Smart and brave person!
I really admire and appreciate that even though you and them don't agree on everything, you all could meet IRL and it go so well.
This genuinely gives me hope for humanity.
The next time you’re with Morgan, you two should record a cover of “A Change Would Do You Good” by Sheryl Crow and make a music video trying to convert each other.
hahahaha I support this idea.
Jacklyn herself said converting shouldn’t be the end goal.
@@alethiastafford6061 Right, so a music video of them jokingly trying to convert each other would be ultra hilarious.
Love everything about this. We need more opposing influencer friendships like this ♡︎
agreed!
Hi, Jaclyn!!!! I am a Christian and have loved listening to Paul and Morgan for these past couple of years, and hence, that’s how I learned about you! 😁 I’ve seen your back and forth “disagreement ” videos throughout the years, and this whole exchange has made me so happy! Like to see you all finally meet up, and it’s so beautiful to see you all treat each other with respect and to be able to take a joke when you tease each other 😄 I like how you said no side should be just blindly sticking to one side without testing who’s saying something and what they are saying. We should all be humble enough to double-check our math! I obviously very strongly don’t line up with a lot of what you say, but I very much respect the way you have been talking with P&M and everything, and so I just wanted to finally reach out to you! Well, I’m going to continue listening to this video! 😊😊😊 Lots of love, and congratulations on your wittle baby!!! ❤️❤️
JLP doesn't go on other people's show. He only has people on his show. He needs to control everything.
Morgan is SO beautiful. The power is THERE. I love finally seeing that side of her! you go girl!
This weird crossover between you and Paul and Morgan gives me hope.
Also, I get the weirdest Christian ads when I watch your videos lmao.
When Paul said he considered being a stay at home dad for Morgan, I started crying bc THAT is true love - compromising for the good of the family
I applaud you so much for having dinner with them. People need to learn that you can disagree and still get along. People just see too much black and white and not enough of that gray common ground. I'm an atheist who's best friends with a Catholic and a Mormon. They are great influences on my life, as i am to theirs because we focus on our commonalities instead of our differences. People, especially in politics, really need to focus more on civility instead of division.
Can I just say that I heard your cover of "I'll follow you into the dark" and it literally brought me to tears. Your voices harmonize so well together. You make the perfect pair. If you were ever on The Voice you would blow all the other competition out of the water.
It's nice to see an actual comparison of the 3 different levels of this clip, the fanatics, the devouts, and the atheists. I'm glad to see that the devouts mostly agree that the fanatics are foolish and childish. This was nice and refreshing you guys. (all 3 of you)
I appreciate your outreach. It’s definitely a great topic to cover. Side note I found your hubby on TikTok holy cow balls his voice 🥰.
That Christian that they criticized was a total wackjob, ha ha ha. So I’m not certain it was directly related to your influence. Regardless, good job reaching out! keep doing it. I think Christians and Atheists can have much better dialogues and interactions overall. As a matter of fact, it’s part of what my channel is dedicated to. I have had many of the “ Big Name” Atheists on my RUclips channel including: Seth Andrews, Paulogia, Genetically Modified Skeptic, ShannonQ, Godless Engineer, etc. and I get along really well with most of the people in the Atheist community: except for a very few.
They in the video literally referenced Jaclyn and said they are doing this because Jaclyn challenged them to. Which is why they use her clip in their video.
I hope your goal isn’t to win them to your religious beliefs. I was a Southern Baptist for most of my life, until I stopped believing. The things in the Bible and the way believers treat others, is something I can no longer stand behind. Looking into the origins of other different religions in Ancient Egypt and comparing them to my past religious beliefs, is what made me leave this belief stystem.
Girl I was watching this video while driving down the highway and all of the sudden there was a tornado and I had to seek shelter at a gas station.. I’m back now tho, going to finish watching!
(Edit) enjoyed the video
Also my dad cooks, cleans, and doesn't care about it at all. I love my dad's cooking
Oh man, this was so good. Your Paul and Morgan series are videos that I especially look forward to, this was a lovely surprise. Kudos to yall for putting your differences aside and met!
I'm glad that Paul & Morgan are happy to meet Jaclyn + maybe other people that disagree with them, have a good civil conversation and possibly have their minds changed
Not gonna lie, I miss these kind of videos and content from u. Thanks for uploading and thanks to Paul and Morgan for checking out ur video and hearing u out and for responding in a video. 😊
Never thought I'd see the day when Jaclyn agrees with Paul and Morgan. Miracles truly happen.
absolutely LOVE this Jaclyn!!! yay for discourse 👏
Okay, I don't want to like Paul and Morgan, but I feel like they really aren't bad people at all. They at least have a sense of humor about themselves and seem open to some different perspectives. I wish them well and a lot of happiness. These days we need people like you and them willing to reach out and humanize each other. This was kind of heartwarming!