@@daviesniper5740 when other people die they never put the name of the victims. He was a person ,just like anybody else on the planet. Very sad what happened to him and his daughter though. RIP
@@Ioan9598 They always release the names, what are you talking about? Why are people getting on this fake soapbox, the'yve been listing the names in every air tragedy from the day they notify the relatives.
@Mike Cap I agree with no names, but don't judge others for doing the same thing. They wouldn't be on here if it wasn't Kobe Bryant. They know him, they didn't know the others that died, stop judging people for doing the same thing you're doing. Ya'll doing the same damn thing!!
I am a private pilot , and I fly out fo John Wayne airport. I have been flying for 30 years . I have made this trip several times. I would NEVER have flown in this weather! Pilot Error!
@robert jacobs let's say he got spatial disorientation... why did he still speed up while banking left and diving? Or maybe a better question is could he or would a normal pilot just gone slower through the fog if they go at all? He cuts the communication with ATC and flies up to 1300 ft to 2300ft smooth... then like a rollercoaster... banks left and speeds down... no recording or communication. He had three opportunities, to not move forward and pressed forward anyway... he lastly discountined communication before his final act... if it wasn't suicide it's very suspicious.
John Dana The Pilot was flying VFR. VFR rules state you must be able to visually see. You are NOT ALLOWED to fly into clouds, fog, or anything else. Period!
I would like to know who that Piolet was flying? This all seems more like an Mecca assassin. In flight for 2hrs for a 20 minute flight even in bad weather is not an excuse. My grandfather was a piolet owning his own plane Cesna 172 back in the late 70's and also flew Tigremoths doing contract work spraying crops., Better Piolets don't make these mistakes. He often flew in bad weather through the Grampians in Victoria Australia, may have come to some close endings but never much took that amount of extra time in a flight plan.
@@JohnBrown-dx6zh You're asking the right question and I've yet to see ANYONE give a reasonable explanation. All I keep reading is "spacial disorientation" as if that's all we need to know. But even if that was the case it still doesn't explain the rapid ascent then sudden, accelerated dive all the way down until impact. This entire horrific tragedy looks more suspicious with each new piece of data.
@@thetoughgroup correct... the only answer is he stalled trying to climb... is/was a stall possible where engines (two) work, but not the propellers or one of the propellers... many experts say this particular helicopter cannot stall doing this rapid ascend maneuver then I heard One Pilot expert say yes it was a stall and that's exactly what the NSTB is going to conclude. This would explain the decent at the speed faster than the helicopter can go... if the helicopter could never have stalled then the conclusion is foul play.
John Altobelli Keri Altobelli Alyssa Altobelli Kobe Bryant Gianna Bryant Payton Chester Sarah Chester Christina Mauser Ara Zobayan You will all be missed 😔
Wait a minute! The name John Altobelli rings a bell. Wasn't he the guy who was the manager of the Baltimore Orioles in 1983 when they won the World Series? Holy shit! And his daughters as well. Let's drink a toast in honor of John and his daughters and for Kobe and Gigi, and also for Ara, Payton, Christina and Sarah. I think they would appreciate that as they watch over us from their heavenly abode.
I was driving one day when fog suddenly socked in all around me. Every window was White with Fog! I was doing 55 Mph. I quickly decided to get off the freeway and just wait it out on the side of the road and pulled over. I got out of my Car and realized i had parked the car on the slow lane of the FreeWay! I I knew a semi truck would be coming down that lane so i jumped back in and was able to pull the car completely way off the freeway! FOG is lethal in the right conditions. RIP.
Oh my god imagine if you looked back and realized headlights were seconds from nailing into you!!! That’s so scary. They should’ve never left the ground this day.
For many of us who are still in denial of this tragic loss of a legend, his daughter, and seven other souls, this video was done in a respectful manner, to help understand why this accident happened like it did. RIP to all.
BS video. Assume Alot of whatthe Pilot did... Video Maker is a Liar & Drama Maker.. don't be fooled by this fake tail.. No Crash, No Deaths, im glade these people didn't die. Look at the fact.. Not this made up BS. Cartoons Drama Fiction Liar..
There are many problematic narration issues as well as inaccurate fog representation of the data. For a a much, much better reconstruction of this flight, and especially the fog (and how it looks and feels the same to be ascending fast, when actually banking and descending into a dive), watch here: ruclips.net/video/WirfErQb-sg/видео.html (the aviation community highly approves this as one of the best on RUclips thus far, post-NTSB)
@Mike Scott Lets just make shit up why dont we? There is no evidence to suggest that happened. Quite the contrary. Kobe and the pilot had a great rapport and got along great. He been flying kobe for several years for christ sake. Do you really think kobe would jeopardize his child if the pilot told him the conditions were too dangerous to fly? Your attempt to place the blame on kobe is fucking nonesense.
I live out here in southern California not where the accident happened but in la county and it was foggy the whole night before this should have never happened
Mike Scott These people are dead because the pilot who as a qualified professional wasn't doing his due diligence. Whether it was his lack of preparation, eg, checking the conditions for the ENTIRE flight route beforehand or his lack of a spine to tell the passengers that he cannot and will not fly in those conditions, the final say was ultimately his to make. IF he knew conditions were dangerous, it doesn't matter what kobe said, those lives were his responsibility and he should've refused. Whether he was pressured or not is moot. I heard the same pilot talking about it on the fox sports outlets too. They really need to be careful about throwing out speculation when theres no tangible evidence to support it because the brain dead masses are too stupid to comprehend the difference.
@HORSE SIX ZERO bro chill out there, I obviously ment crew as in passengers (family members). I have a 7 year old, and this tragedy hit me and the whole world very hard.
@HORSE SIX ZERO There's always that one dude that gotta bitch about something. But even here the dude mentioned the "rest". Go cry about something else
This channel has a HUGE amount of class. You could have capitalized on his name in the title but you didn't out of respect . I really LOVE your channel !
You were really thorough detailing this tragedy. Also, you were very professional describing this event, not focusing on Kobe and Gianna, but the conditions that might have caused the crash. 9 people lost their lives that day, hopefully we learn from it. RIP and kind thoughts. to all' involved.
WTF, wrong takeoff profile, calls at the wrong time, helicopter totally wrong altitude. Impact on totally wrong position. It has nothing to do with the actually case. Besides that, there is still a chance for a mechanic failure. Horrible video. Using a tragedy to generate clicks in a total inaccurate way.. NO GO.
I find it to be ridiculous how so many Kobe haters take the time to Bitch and Complain about why Kobe fans make a big deal about the loss of their Hero and Role Model. Fucking hating ass losers. Get a life. If you’re not a Kobe Fan then don’t watch the videos or comment. Because if Kobe or his daughter were not aboard the helicopter then nobody would be talking about this period.
You need not wait until the final NTSB report. I’ve done the research and can tell you most likely exactly what happened. IMHO, although ultimately the pilot was at fault, the company he worked for set him up for failure, and thus has some complicity. Before I explain what happened, let me give you some background including of myself. I am a former B-52 pilot and certified instrument flight instructor. Unlike most civilian CFIIs, I loved taking my students up in real weather when the opportunity arose, and they very much appreciated it because the real thing is a lot different than simulators and being under the hood for training. You have to trust those instruments with your life, even when they are telling you that you’re flying straight and level, but it feels like “up” is somewhere to the left and slightly below your left knee (I’m not kidding). It’s called “spatial disorientation” (SpD) and the onset happens quickly. (If you choose to go with what your body feels is right rather than what your instruments are telling you is right, before you know it, you’ll be upside down in a nose dive toward the ground.) Call me weird, but I always liked amusement park thrill rides, so I looked forward to flying on such days with all the weird accompanying sensations. I was very comfortable flying both VFR and IFR and sometimes would file an inflight IFR flight plan when VFR weather turned against me, something else my VFR pilots appreciated learning how to do in an emergency if they ever had to. Now the background with Ara Zobayan, Kobe’s pilot, was that although he was IFR rated, he probably rarely flew IFR and especially IFR in IMC conditions. His chopper had IFR instruments, but they weren’t certified for IFR flight. That means he could use them to fly IFR (assuming they worked properly), but he wouldn’t have been legal doing that. The helicopter company he worked for was not cleared for IFR operations, and the vast majority of the time the weather in that part of southern California was VMC and thus an IFR rating wasn’t really necessary from a commercial point of view. Also, VFR flights are fast from point A to B. With an IFR flight, you might have to hold or divert, and it could take substantially longer to get to your destination, something a customer like Kobe wouldn’t have liked. With that background, here’s what happened. The weather wasn’t great; it was barely VFR, thus Zobayan’s request for Special VFR. Special VFR is sort of something between VFR and IFR, where you’re still clear of clouds, but close enough to them for ATC to want to know what you’re up to so as to make sure their IFR aircraft don’t pop out of a cloud and crash into you. So Zobayan was flying closely below the clouds, but the terrain kept rising on him. Being in a helicopter, he could have just stopped and landed almost anywhere, but when you just land anywhere, that’s a potential lawsuit waiting to happen if the owner of the property doesn’t like helicopters landing on his turf without permission. There’s also the pressure of providing the advertised service to a high-profile client, that is getting them to their intended destination on time as promised. And last there is the pressure to avoid IFR flight because that’s got questions from the FAA and helicopter company written all over it (after you land), including the real possibility of losing your pilot’s license and/or being fired from your job. (Remember his helicopter company was not certified for IFR flights.) So Zobayan had a lot of pressure on him to maintain SFVR, almost no matter what. And if he’s been used to successful flights in SVFR, he probably thought at any second the weather would get better and he’d be back to comfortable flying-but it didn’t get better this time. To avoid the clouds, he had to fly so low to the ground that SOCAL couldn’t see him on radar, and it appears they couldn’t hear him even if he could hear them, so there was no flight following to help him steer clear of not only other aircraft, but bad weather and even mountains. He probably felt all alone. So, he sees the terrain rising on him and instinctively pulls up to avoid it and guess what, now he’s in the clouds-which literally is like being in another world compared to VFR flight. Feeling very uncomfortable flying in real IMC conditions, rather than doing the safest thing (obviously in 20-20 hindsight) and just keep climbing (of course using his instruments), he probably desperately started looking outside for the ground again, not paying attention to what his instruments were telling him, especially his ADI. Entering into the clouds in a climbing left bank, immediately SpD set in and probably a descending left turn was what normal level flight felt like to his body so he stayed with the feeling, not moving the stick much, as he was looking outside. Unfortunately, most likely be broke through the clouds with just a second to realize that he was looking straight at the ground and about to crash when his body was telling him he should be seeing a level horizon-probably not enough time to even process his visual sense so as to be shocked at what he saw. He was already dead. Most likely his passengers never saw what hit them, but if so, maybe literally at the last second; probably not enough time to even get scared. In 20-20 hindsight, as soon as he realized he was unable to make contact with SOCAL, he should have made a 180, got back with the previous ATC and figured out a safe place to land. He would have had to explain to his passengers that the weather was worse than he thought and it was unsafe to fly toward their destination any further. (Some customers would have been okay with that, but others would have complained, saying they should have been told the weather was bad so they could have driven.) But his company did him (and obviously their customers too) a disservice by allowing SVFR flights, but not having a viable company policy for what to do if the weather reports are wrong and the weather is worse than planned such that the pilot accidentally flies into the clouds. The policy should have been Safety First, and therefore if a pilot accidentally flies into the clouds, to just keep climbing until VFR again, notify ATC of the emergency, try to land in VFR as soon as possible, or have ATC help you land IFR somewhere as soon as practical, and the company will take any heat from ATC if there is any, and the pilot will not be blamed in any way. It appears that second-choice safe option was entirely discouraged by the company. The company should have had at least one IFR rated helicopter for SVFR flights just in case the weather was worse than reported and a pilot found himself accidentally in it. If that required the company be IFR rated, then so be it, or don’t allow your pilots to fly SVFR. SVFR can quickly turn to IFR unintentionally. Or they could have had a very simple safety-related policy: if the cops ain’t flyin’, we ain’t flyin’. Update 1: 33moneyball made a comment that might explain Zobayan's motivation for deciding to make such a flight in such poor weather conditions. Read his comment and my reply if you are also interested in that aspect of the incident. Update 2: Steven Condas obtained audio of Zobayan talking to SOCAL (ruclips.net/video/M_Dpm144KXo/видео.html). Read his comments below about his slightly different take than mine. I now take back my "he felt all alone" and change it to "he felt extremely nervous for lying". He was in contact with SOCAL when he flew into the weather, and he even informed SOCAL that he intended to climb above it. So he initially did the right thing, or at least knew what the right thing to do was--CLIMB! Let's give him some credit for that. But the audio does open a whole new can of worms. It appears to me that Zobayan lied to ATC. Here's what he told SOCAL: "we gotta go to go ahead and climb to go above the layers and we can stay with you". He entered the weather, but continued to squawk 1200 indicating that he was VFR which he wasn't. It looks like he was hoping to quickly get above the clouds where he could see outside again, but if later asked how he did that, his story would have been that he saw a break in the clouds, and flew through that. Who could prove him wrong? Of course SOCAL immediately wanted to know where he was because he could be climbing straight into one of their aircraft, so they asked him to ident, which he did with a 1200 code indicating he was VFR when he wasn't. So all this is probably racing through his mind: he climbed, but still didn't clear the clouds, he's still in the weather (which he doesn't have much real experience with), he's misleading ATC (i.e. lying) about his VFR status, and ATC is wanting to carry on a conversation with him distracting him from flying, which he is struggling now with. With all that distraction going on, including being nervous about if you're going to be caught lying to ATC, it appears the last thing on his mind was what his ADI was telling him. (Steven points out that in 2015 he had been disciplined by the FAA for flying in poor conditions, so potentially reliving that was probably on his mind too.) And last, but not least, SpD quickly set in and his brain was simply too overloaded to safely operate anything, much less a helicopter. In 20-20 hindsight, he should have focused on his climb and immediately declared an emergency to SOCAL while continuing the climb, noting that he was in the weather, rather than desperately try to cover for his mistake including giving the impression he was VFR when he wasn't. Granted, he probably would have gotten into some serious legal trouble--AFTER SOCAL helped him safely land the helicopter somewhere, but everyone would still be alive. Lesson learned: honesty is the best policy.
This looks like negligence on the aircraft company & we should be pleased someone with experience knows this exact scenario. & can explain it to us simply enough. What a tragedy! Instead get to a stable place, make another plan!
@@ltcam2500 IMHO, I don't think they did, even the pilot. When they finally broke out of the clouds, and saw what was going on, they were dead before their minds could even process what they were seeing.
Massive Respect to The Flight Channel for not using NBA Star Kobe Bryant's name in title or thumbnail for more views...🙌 Created like a true Creator of Air-Crash investigation channel. Hats off! 🎩
well it got suggested to me after watching a video that had his name on the title and sure enough his name is also in the tags, so you were wrong. A simple plugin in chrome can show you the tags the youtuber put in the video. Tags are like titles but hidden from the viewer. So you were wrong about that.
@@RamblingRamul Still appreciate him for not taking it in title & thumbnail as well for additional views, which others are taking.... Learn to appreciate!
If something just doesn't look, smell, vibe or feel right about a flight or if you're made aware of risk factors for taking the initial flight, DON'T DO IT! There's absolutely nothing wrong with taking the drive or waiting for a better opportunity to fly. We often get too caught up in schedules, routines and the hustle and bustle of life that we fail to realise that some things just aren't worth risking. Not many second chances when things go wrong with flights. Just don't risk it. R.I.P to all on board and God bless their families and friends.
Agree, flying is usually a luxury, not a necessity, especially for just going across town. It's not like the more you fly, the less risk there is of being in a crash. It's the other way around. The totality of Kobe's legacy will be tarnished by this unnecessary tragedy.
david turner I wouldn’t reach as far as to say it will tarnish his legacy, yes we all make mistakes and some people make irreversible mistakes that may be life changing but I can say that due to this tragedy it amplifies what was done in the window of time he was living because in reality he’s accomplished so much more than 90% of people will ever in their lifetime although all may not have been expedient saying that none of it will matter is like saying he didn’t give 100% to what he believed in, family or his passion
I hope after this tragic accident that the FAA will get their act together and make them have the necessary equipment on board to help the pilots when they lose there way due to weather conditions, also make it mandatory to have flight and data recorders on these big copters.
the pilot shouldnt have been in the air that morning... or shoulda landed in Glendale... thw company was not even certified to fly in fog conditions... rogue pilot... RIP Kobe... 😭 he trusted them literally with his life and his daughters life 😭😭
LAPD fly different helicopters that are not designed to fly in weather this helicopter was able to fly in. This guy got disoriented and didnt realize he was headed down, probably trying to go above the fog
Have you ever been delayed at an airport? Do you get a sense that its fun to wait? It isn't. He had to wait for other traffic to be cleared so he could proceed through their airspace. He wasn't tense. It was an acquiescence.
@@silviodelgadojr I think people are really bad and interpreting somebody's emotional state based on how they sound when talking to ATC. He sounded a lot like a pilot using an appropriate tone to talk to ATC. Unless you have some recordings of his voice to compare it to, there's no basis for that interpretation
Pilot decided to fly in the mountains in the foggy conditions and low height and stopped responding to ATC. Even ATC was not able to understand what he was thinking he was doing. I don't understand this either. Then he lost orientation in the fog. He was untrained to follow instruments so he followed his instincts and crashed. I suppose he didn't noticed he put the helicopter into nosedive till the last moment. It was probably spacial disorientation together with EGO to be blamed. This should be a big warning to all pilots.
@macks Smith Were those 20 people waiting for helicopter charter flights or fixed wing aircraft. They are to entirely different flight operations. Helicopters can stop and hover. Fixed wing aircraft can't do that. Thats why they require 3 statute miles of visibility.
Danniel Nikitins Are you trying to say the death of Kobe, his daughter and the other passengers on board is justified, because they would soon or later anyway face death? Sorry, but we don’t need the thoughts of a depressed atheist.
uh why would he? that would clearly be a clout grab which is what so many people are doing. this channel focuses on the crashes themselves and informs and not to benefit their own name.
@@wolfetwitzer5152 Because he's not self-promoting his youtube channel. There are a lot of people out there trying to profit from his death. It's important to many fans of Kobe.
Eeesh, it's hard to believe at 9:42 they still had view out their windows of homes and such, but were only a few minutes from their death plunge, which would have been absolutely terrifying as they fell the 4000 feet per minute. God bless all 9 on board. May God be with them and their families the rest of the way.
@macks Smith You know who are the Best Pilots in the world, at least self proclaimed. And you know they tend to be Overconfident, Risking, Cutting corners, trying to save couple of minutes (money) because of delayed flight and so on. It is in the genetics bro. Responsible pilot would turn around in such conditions.
hah, this comment nailed it: Easy to see that you dont know what you are talking about! Have you ever been in a plane or a helicopter? When your body is affected by G-forces natural to your weight experienced towards the seat your mind does not react to the direction you are actually going. This is the danger when flying into fog, snow or other means of loosing visual preferences this is called whiteout, remember that he is flying and controlling his helicopter according to his visual senses (eyes). Flying by instruments means a whole lot of different planning and flight paths according to this. When flying by visual preferenses and into foggy conditions you don't emmediatly go "blind" your brain will first try to imagine what you see or don't see. If you let go of the stick in a plane that is well trimmed according to flight speed, it will mostly fly straight due to the aerodynamics (of course it will want to crash eventually) but if you let go of the stick in a helicopter it will loose control directly. A helicopter is naturally unstable due to the way it counteracts the gravitation forces by pulling/pushing air with its main rotor and the main rotor is "balancing" on top of the helicopter according to stick input, if you are flying forward and the slightest release backwards of the stick forces the helicopter to go up and the forces on the helicopter changes and it needs to be counteracted by input of (the foot pedals) or yaw. If correct pedal pressure (depens on the helicopter and main rotor rotation direction) is not input the helicopter will start to turn (YAW) left or right and the wind forces will try to tip the helicopter over on it's side (called banking) uncontrolled banking is often catastrophic on a helicopter especially at low altitude. The more a halicopter is banking the less lift it will create and it goes fast towards the ground. Here is where the gravitational forces comes in to fool you, if you are traveling forward and you are in the air, and your seating direction are changed according to acceleration or de-acceleration, your mind understands this as falling, rising sliding, breaking or accelerating according to the gravitational forces and this forces can be all around you like you are sitting inside a ball that is thrown around. Loss of control happens before your body and brain understand it. And when the person understand that control is lost the helicopter can already be upside down without feeling it. It is so difficult to fly IFR if you are not trained to it, and it is almost impossible to change from VFR ti IFR in a second if you are not prepared to do it and especially if overwhelmed with a fog whiteout condition. The helicopter did not only fly into IFR conditions it was (IMC) instrument meteorological conditions. Oh my this became a bit longer than expected. Hope it helps you to understand a little more about the helicopter flying aspect of life.
Len Len The victims were better off taking the 30 minutes flight, instead of a two hour drive. It was a major pilot miscomprehension that cause the fatality of all nine lives including his very own.
I agree. I also wish this simulation had been far more accurate. Starting with the amount of fog, since this does not depict how blind they were in the slightest based on live reports from the weather service (and other pilots and witness video). This video also did a poor job of not using quotations to differentiate from their independent narration, and also implied the left turn was intentional, which NTSB clarified quite clearly was not the case, via ATC comms. He thought he was going up and straight and was too blinded by the fog to see he'd lost track of his path and was banking left and downwards. The steep descent at a high speed speaks to the fact that he felt he was climbing sharply and didn't realise until the last 15 seconds or so that he was doing the opposite. Spatial disorientation from taking his hand off the stick for a second can cause this bank and roll if the autopilot turns off, which likely happened, and to correct this change, he made a false judgment of what was straight and upwards, and instead moved left and downwards. For a much better reconstruction of the fog and the sense of ascending fast, instead of banking and descending, watch here: ruclips.net/video/WirfErQb-sg/видео.html (Aviation community highly approves this as one of the best on RUclips thus far, post-NTSB)
A very timely, intelligent and professional production. It does seem likely that this accident will finally spur the FAA into making major technical improvements to helicopter operations in the USA, which the NTSB has been urging for years. It is early days in this particular investigation, but it seems likely that the pilot succumbed to "Getthereitus" and suffered spatial disorientation once he lost sight of the freeway. An entirely preventable crash.
@@stockmatusow3092 No. Over pitching or retreating blade stall or both caused by Spacial distortion. It's the only answer to the loss of lift in the rotor disk.
Kobe and Gigi were at our school about two weeks before the crash. One of the top high school basketball players in the country (who is now a freshman in the WNBA) attended our school and had Kobe as a trainer. She was close with Gianna as well. It was a huge media buzz to have such a famous person in our one stop light town, and one of my close friends who happened to be on the varsity team was lucky enough to get a selfie with him. We were stunned when news of his death hit us. May all who were on board, not just the Bryants, rest in paradise.
There's a very good possibility they never saw it coming. It appears the pilot had spatial disorientation where he started flying by what his body felt was level flight, rather than what his instruments were telling him (probably in a vain attempt to look for the ground and VFR again). Those passengers may have felt the same way, that they were in level flight too. Maybe at the very last second if they happened to see outside after breaking through the clouds someone might have seen their fate, but probably died before their brain had a chance to process the info.
@Doctor MindBenDa Maybe you're right. IMHO I just think you are probably wrong. You get a group like that, and they're probably talking about basketball, and not focusing much on what's going on outside when there's not much to see anyway because of the fog and low ceiling. You can't see much forward. They may not have even looking outside at the time.of the crash. And even so, if someone blinked, they would have missed it.
@Doctor MindBenDa You think I'm wrong; I think you're wrong. Neither of us were there to know all the details, therefore I concede I could be wrong. I appreciate you sharing your opinion.
@Doctor MindBenDa Good point, but I think you'll agree that no matter how much experience a person has, they can still be wrong sometimes. For example, the Kobe's pilot had something like 8000 hours of flight experience.
Doctor MindBenDa I agree with what you said. They were all aware that they were going down, There’s no way to be oblivious to it. Also, that they all passed in different times. I believe pilot passed on impact, Fire definitely finished the job for
Dang, is there a flight that you can't re-create, this is amazing man. I loved the scene at 1:20 with the inbound flight coming in. Nice job once again tfc, thank you for getting this one on as quick as you did and will be waiting for the updated video.
I was an air evacuation paramedic in the military. I was always on helicopters. going into New Mexico from Arizona being a 19 year old , you dont even think things like this would happen. The fact is a person is a sitting duck and you are at the mercy of the pilot.
I agree... but In this case, I am starting to think that there is more to the crash than just simply weather condition doing this or the fact that the helicopter was NOT certified. I can't believe that they only had ONE PILOT manning this helicopter especially with that many passengers on board. I thought the helicopter gracefully crashed to the ground not nose pointing down to the ground. I was wondering how they all died from the crash. Now it all makes sense. This helicopter fell from 2,500 feet up in the sky NOSE DOWN slamming into the GROUND; KILLING EVERYONE on board on IMPACT. That, my friend creolelady182, sounds A LOT LIKE the helicopter was brought down INTENTIONALLY just like that Boeing because the co-pilot's girlfriend dumped him and so he decided to lock everyone out of the cockpit. Then, brought down the plane KILLING everyone on board. *Why would helicopter pilot gain 1000 ft in altitude quickly and not respond to the air traffic controllers? Within next few minutes the helicopter NOSE DIVED to the ground.* Even if the helicopter engine was damaged, the pilot could have slowed down the descend enough to not get everyone killed on board... Yep... I think, they need to look at the pilot and his background.... Something ain't adding up here. :)
If President does it, it is NOT ILLEGAL I agree. They initially found 3 bodies outside of the craft as they were ejected (pilot, Kobe, one of the mothers) they found the others in the wreckage. If they were ejected it had to have hit slightly tilted. He was also go 180 when he had just been going about 90 mph a few minutes before. Who speeds up in uncertain conditions? It sounds like he nosed down and sped up. Crazy!
Best comments I've read anywhere. Yes, once we understand this helicopter rocketed up to gain altitude, then pitched nose down (while banking left), and increased speed to the very limits of its design capacity until impact, then it becomes hauntingly apparent the cause of this accident is likely much more than fog. RIP to all the passengers. God be with their families.
In Vietnam I flow a Bell Uh-1 nickname the Huey... in terrible weather at night time... as he was climbing up through the clouds he probably got disoriented and then the aircraft probably went inverted and did a nosedive you would have seconds to react to come out of a situation like that... in Canada they always have two pilots and in this case with bad weather they should have had two pilots... plus they grounded everybody and they gave that pilot special virtual flight Rule clearance that is a big No-No...Sad -Sad accident...RIP To all the souls that perished on that day...Sometimes as a pilot you need to say the word "NO" even if it means getting fired better to arrive late then not at all...🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@melbourne-heat.69-71 *as he was climbing up through the clouds he probably got disoriented* Even so Robert my friend, why would or should the helicopter make an abrupt and sudden change in direction so fast, because the pilot is disoriented? Is it because there is a natural tenancy to push or pull on a lever or pedal just because you don't know which way the craft is flying? Is it not safe to say that when and if you are disoriented for you to not do anything so ABRUPT but keep the craft flying in the same settings or input until you figure out what is going on by looking at the instruments? Seriously, I am really confused why pilots do that or feel the need to suddenly push or pull on a pedal or lever just because they can't tell if the craft is flying right side up.
It’s still mind blowing how he just got disoriented when he was a very experienced pilot. There is more to this accident unless he had a stroke or heart attack mid flight. Seems fishy to me.
I think pilot was distracted. Once the ATC couldn’t request the following he decided to use his iPad he had on board which also gave him a update on weather conditions etc...and maybe it had some sort of app where it could of possibly gave him the info he needed( hence what the following would of gave him if he wasn’t flying so low) and just like a person driving a car and looks down at a text message ..maybe he did the same and we all know if u take ur eyes of the road even For a second it can cause you to veer off a road without realizing it until it’s to late. Just a theory , but I really believe it’s what happened. Dropping that kind of elevation that fast with NO Engine or mechanical issues - really only reason I can see besides pilot having a heart attack ?!
Ive seen every episode of " air disasters" , with that being said, it makes me wonder if this pilot simply lost his position due to fog , couldnt tell where he was or which direction was which until it was too late
@@tomlevitt4133 That thought hadn't occurred to me. The fact that there is no indication from the pilot as to what was going on prior to the crash, makes a good argument for him having some kind of medical episode. But I guess an autopsy would have shown a medical issue.
I was actually planning on requesting this in another video because I believe this is the first time you’ve used a helicopter in your videos. But you did it and I’m so proud of your work. RIP to Kobe, Gigi, and all other souls on board N72EX
I don't think this is his first time putting a helicopter in his videos? But still I loved the video, like all of TFC's videos. Beautiful edited and explained very clearly, but heartbreaking..
As a non pilot, but someone interested in all aspects of aviation, thank you for your comprehensive and detailed exposition of this tragedy. Along side the Flight Channel video your explanation has given me a better understanding.
Laquinton Wagner When you fly into a cloud bank with minimum visibility that’s the last thing a pilot should do. Due to the vibrations of the helicopter without a visual aid your body is tricked into thinking it’s diving or turning when in reality you’re flying straight & level.
@@JTScott1988 its in our inner ears (vestibular system) .we have our own internal gyroscope..but we need VISUAL REFERENCE ..because wehumans are NOT intended to fly like birds lol. Watch and learn ruclips.net/video/dEHpqMAmETg/видео.html
My heart was beating out my chest watching that helicopter nose dive like that. I can't imagine the fear they must have been experiencing at that moment smh. RIP to all the victims 🙏🏽
It appears the pilot was totally spatially disoriented and possibly in a panic considering the celebrity on board with his daughter and friends, under duress to deliver them in a timely manner (as that is why they avoided driving in the first place) he already had to waste some time in a hold over Burbank. I am only speculating this of course, but it seems highly possible that neither he nor the passengers were aware that they were in a dive at all being in thick fog . I mean that rate of descent, that extreme dive attitude at 160 knots would be suicidal otherwise. He may have actually thought he was ascending in altitude to clear the terrain that he must have known was somewhere near him or at least in level flight!!! Still does not explain why he would not be monitoring his altitude, gyro, (maybe the older helo did not have proper equipment, we know there was no terrain warning system!! seems suicidal in itself considering the places they flew to and as to gyros they had usually relied on the rotors servos for pitch correction according to a friend of mine, I have no idea, it is a weird situation here. This helo should never have been flying this route other than on totally clear days if you ask me). This is the problem with taking celebrities somewhere on private aircraft, especially helos. Who has the balls to tell him "look, the Santa Monica mountains are banked in by fog and that is the way I am familiar with taking here, I fly under visual flight rules, we are not certified for instrument flight rules and that would take forever even if we were. You gonna have either drive or miss this one Mamba" Kobe was a cool and highly intelligent guy, I am certain he would have accepted a logical explanation of the potential hazards, just so tragic.
Still, a mind-boggling to me why that chopper descended just like that. The communication with the air traffic control seems to be normal and blink of an eye they're gone. RIP to all on board.
Yessss! I was thinking this myself! Like why didnt he just land the dam thing? Or why did they even try to fly that day? Or even if they would of waited till the fog burn off? They would of been late.....but......ALIVE!!! This TRAGEDY Hurts me DEEPLY.......so i can just imagine the pain of all the love ones left behind to deal with this Nightmare for the rest of their lives! Rip 9 💔😓🙏🏿
Eros generally in a cockpit by the time you realize you’re in danger it’s too late. Experience also breeds complacency, he’d flown that path many times before and what’s called “get-there-itis” likely set in. Pressure from a VIP onboard likely didn’t help either. But, it’s impossible to know what he was thinking, I REALLY hope the FAA finally requires a CVR and FDR on parr 135 operations now, it’s been recommended by the NTSB for years and the FAA has ignored it. Had there have been those devices installed there would likely be a lot less guessing. Also, vertigo takes seconds to happen in the clouds especially if you’re not current on IFR. Again, he likely didn’t realize what happened until maybe 30 seconds before it was done.
My question is...why does he has to continue to fly, after initially witnessed the weather changes? Why couldn’t he just turn back? It’s so heartbreaking how everyone just vanished out from this earth. GOD have mercy!🙏🏿
I’m wondering if the pilot had some sort of sudden medical emergency. I’m not a pilot, but why would he have made such a sudden and steep descent? It almost looked like a dive...
yeah i have the same thought if the helicopter didn't have any mechanical issues why did he descend that fast did he have a medical condition or i hate to say this it almost seemed like suicide.
This video didn't say the 101 freeway he followed was going uphill and he made a left turn to avoid the fog cover, same reason he flew so low without regard to the terrain. They should have never flown in the fog that day. It showed how dangerous helicopter is.
@@philmatoph It's called spacial disorientation. It happens often when pilots lose visual reference. He more than likely just lost control of the aircraft. At low altitude, that is a recipe for disaster.
To all that "can't understand the dive" or "sounds like the acft stalled"???? Take a look into other NTSB IIMC (Inadvertent Instrument Meteorological Conditions--"in the clouds") crashes and you'll see a common thread...typically hit the ground in a step descent at an incredible rate of descent. If you've never experienced Spatial Disorientation the you can't possibly imagine what that pilots body felt. Once you're in the clouds you lose ALL reference to what is up, down, sideways, slantways, etc. Combine that feeling, along with attempting to turn the aircraft in the clouds, it quickly becomes the "recipe for disaster" that happens when pilots go IIMC and do NOT IMMEDIATELY transition to instruments! (You can EASILY turn upside down and lose all control...EASILY) Transitioning to instrument flight is the ONLY chance you have to get spatially oriented again. Bottom line is...he should have landed! Its a helicopter! LAND...anywhere. Trust me, people LOVE to come out to see helicopters that land in their backyards, parking lots, HWY 101, especially when you're carrying a VIP. We have a saying in helicopter aviation due to our unique ability to slow down to ZERO AIRSPEED....NEVER outrun your visibility!
Terry Zacharias Agreed... The Hippocratic Oath, used in medicine, truly would have applied here for the pilot- “First, do no harm” When in that fog above the hills, probably a bit disoriented and maybe panicking a bit, literally his first priority should have just been making sure he didn’t crash the heli... Just hover. Collect your composure. Then bring it straight up to an altitude to get back on radar for further instructions. But no matter what, above all else, DON’T do something rash and crash the heli. This is really frustrating, in addition to being tragic... It really seemed easily preventable
Terry Zacharias the spatial disorientation that you describe, is it common or does it only occur in situations like this where there is an issue with maintaining ascension due to extreme weather? Besides that, everything you described makes perfect sense. Now the biggest unanswered question is why didn’t he just land when he was in an area that had slightly better visibility? It seems like once they made their way closer to mountain area, the fog thickness was worse
It's so bizarre that this crash happened. The pilot seemed competent, there was no sign of panic or apprehension in his voice, it's almost as if something went wrong mechanically with the aircraft.
I'm certain myself that Bryant likely asked the pilot if he could do it, and the pilot likely said yes. Didn't want to let Bryant down. But ultimately let him down in the worst way.
I agree.When people work for celebrities,they often times don't want to let them down.Another example of this is, Micheal Jackson's Doctor.Micheal wanted the drugs,so his doctor administered them to him.
Same thing with Aliyah and her plane crash. The pilots warned her crew they had too much weight but Aliyah crew insisted on going anyway saying they will be fine and needed to go and stay on schedule.
A few weeks ago I was driving to work in the morning ...foggy..so scary I almost turned back but you dont know where you're going ..like driving blind..horrible ..but I got out of it somehow . Thought I was going to wreck..it confuses you and you dont know what's up ahead ... RIP to all the victims ..I'm sorry this happened...so frustrating
Thick Fog is really frightening, daughter had a trip planned with my two young grandkids, I told her she could go but the Kids aren't going anywhere, common sense doesn't cost anything.
I work for a company that flies S-76's as well as other helicopters, and I just don't understand why only 1 pilot was on board. It could be a 10 minute flight, but always have two pilots in that cockpit.
Can you educate me on why the S-76 needs two pilots? My father is a retired helicopter pilot so I have a good knowledge base, but am always learning. Thanks!
@@louisg3598 On the contrary. It's an ideal helo to fly in these conditions, with a sophisticated autopilot . I do agree that two pilots might have resulted in a different outcome though.
Went to a continuing writing class, at OCC. Always saw Altobelli with his team, every week. A wonderful family. I couldn't bring myself to attend their Memorial yesterday, at Angel's Stadium. Too close...
When you are in the "soup" in mountainous terrain at low altitude you are busy flying the copter so chatting with ATC is not the first priority - Prelim NTSB report says he was ascending to 2300 ft (one of two standard protocols when you "punch in" ) and at 2400 ft he would have been back in clear air or VFR rules again but pilot started the tightening left hand turn and eventually dive likely disoriented in fog - protocol one is continue forward under power climbing 60 degrees or protocol two is make a 180 degree turn the theory is you will fly back out if the fog you just flew into the pilot may have panicked when he didnt climb out fast enough then he tried the 180 turn but in fog it's like duct taping your eyes shut
I remember I was getting my sweater that morning because I was going to breakfast with my grandpa (who has always looked up to kobe and has always been inspired by him even tho my grandpa was older” and as I was about to walk out the door I checked my phone for some reason and saw the news. I couldn’t even believe. I thought it was fake and i just couldn’t walk out the door and tell my grandpa the news . It was so unreal. I felt like I was dreaming and couldn’t breathe , as if it were a family member who had passed . I remember that exact moment . So heartbreaking
R.I.P. Kobe And Daughter and everyone else on the chopper!! True Laker Fan, watched every single game he played, extremely sad when he retired, but respected his decision.........and now he's gone. RIP MAN!! LOVE YA!!!
Life is so strange. I wonder if the pilot refused to fly because of poor conditions if he'd been let go. And maybe a backup was called in, or they drove and everyone would have made it home alive. Ugh. Life is so fickle. Undoubtedly so sad to see all of those beautiful young lives lost.
Rick Taylor wow your mother must be so proud of that disgusting human being that you are. Get a job you failure. Not only a failure for you life but also a failure for your own values. Imagine saying such a dumb thing with no empathy at all. I’m not even gonna argue about that “beautiful white girl” because you’re obviously a troll. But this is so low. God forbid you losing somebody close to you but you’d go nuts if your mother or girlfriend died and somebody calls them rapist and other names to insult them. Like what are you doing with your life? Are you mad? Do you need a therapist. It wasn’t a funny move and not a funny comment, it’s very low. You’re hating on people YOU DO NOT KNOW including children. Wow. You’re that low?
@@ricktaylor3748 "beautiful white girl" She was club hopping you know and even had DNA evidence going against her. You know that right? Granted Kobe was still in the wrong for putting himself in this situation but at least consider doing some research of the mess. ruclips.net/video/5hfYJsQAhl0/видео.html
Right, something had to have happened. He sound so calm, but yet he has stress in this voice. He may have had a heart attack or something. There’s no telling how much stress he was under having to fly Kobe Bryant
@@Berry12TVoice You're welcome. But to be fair, your first sentence was all too easy to poke fun at: "Something had to have happened." *You reckon?* Anyway, here's a link that we in the aviation community find very accurate, even though the person who made the reconstruction isn't a pilot. It's nonetheless more detailed and refined to the data and shows how the fog/cloud coverage actually looked before the crash: ruclips.net/video/WirfErQb-sg/видео.html
This is so sad to watch I can't imagine how kobe was feeling along with the others when the chopper started descending on a tilt R.I.P Mamba and GiGi and the rest of the fallen God will take over now 😪😪😪
@@WorthNineDigits they had to know,they could feel the helicopter completely change drastic position at a very fast rate!they knew it wasnt right.the chopper is in nose dive position!!!!!
@@nikkiwilliams3393 yes they definitely knew they were in trouble especially when you couldn't see nothing then you come up on mountains that fast and I'm sure the pilot told them to brace themselves 😪😪
@@brickcitybornnjb-rad9110 This copter isn't configured in a way the passengers can see in front of them. They would have felt the g forcing from that hard fast bank though and may have sensed something was off though.
We've all experienced Spatial Disorientation one way or the other when we happen to drive into a white out fog for a few seconds or even a minute. The heartrate goes up a bit, the brain gets confused for a quick second on to either pull over (to a shoulder you can't see), slow down (preferably), or stop (deadly). Luckily most of us slow down, or we go through the "milk" pretty quickly. Now imagine that shit thousands of feet up and totally surrounded by white - for minutes!
Felix Garcia, that is why IFR aircraft have instruments. A properly trained pilot knows how common Spatial D is. And they are taught to not trust what their body might be telling them. If no discernible horizon is visible, you look at what the artificial horizon on your instrument panel is showing you. And if your body is telling you that you are banked when this instrument is showing you straight & level, a properly trained pilot knows that the reliable way to confirm that the main instrument is accurate is by crosschecking it with the backup artificial horizon. Those two instruments, taken together, will confirm to the properly trained pilot that your instruments are the correct info, and that your body's sensations are not to be trusted. And there is another major disconnect between what regular people experience when driving cars versus what happened in this incident. This was not the case of an airplane flying into fog. This was a helicopter. So the pilot did have the option to stop. And stopping during a flight like this is not the fatal option. It is the wisest one. At any moment in that last segment of the flight, this pilot could have made the decision that the conditions were worse than he had originally hoped. He could have stopped his forward motion, and found a place to put it down. Unlike driving on a foggy freeway, there isn't a trail of aircraft following you who will plow into you if you decide to abort your flight, hover and land somewhere safe. That would have been the smart decision here. An even smarter decision would have been to understand what the preflight weather report was telling you, and cancel the flight. Never take off. We all make mistakes. Some of those prove to be huge mistakes. And some of those huge mistakes prove to be fatal. Dealing with fog on a freeway in a car is different from dealing with fog in an airplane. And even more different when dealing with fog in a helicopter.
@@alexbabiuc8826 You can't hover in IMC (instrument conditions) in a helicopter …. it is extremely difficult, as you cannot tell if you are drifting without special instrumentation.
Just discovered your channel today. I was hoping to see a recreation of the crash ever since it happened. Already watched a ton of your videos. They’re awesome. Subscribed!
Thomas Anton Geurts well then why did an experienced pilot take off in conditions he knew his company didn’t even legally permit? This is just so weird to me
realEmoSedillo exactly I didn’t see or hear anything about engine failure either, an looking at all the flights paths video I don’t even understand he thought process at the end, was following a path what was the climb for
If it were I. as the pilot, I would have said “Sorry everyone, but the weather conditions are to risky to fly. The police and other entities have grounded their craft as well.” If they demand that we fly anyway, I would have called the company and requested another pilot if any, that would fly in those conditions. I have lost friends, 3 enlisted and 1 officer, 1st Lt. all friends of mine, in a heli crash in 1988, in foggy conditions in Germany. Our Company XO was going to different field sites and evaluating them, while we were on a 30 day field training exercise. I had the first opportunity to go, but past on it because I thought that the conditions were too bad. I am glad that I did or I would not be here today. I still miss them a lot. Bless all passengers on that helicopter and I hope that they Rest In Peace.
blancolirio channel has done good coverage of the Istanbul crash, and it's one of the dumbest I've ever seen. Thirty knot quartering tailwind, rain-slick runway, came in WAY too hot, was two-thirds of the way down the runway when the wheels touched and it was perfectly obvious that there wasn't enough room left to stop and a go-around was needed.
Stardust True. Sadly enough that goes for any of us entering an aircraft at any time. My Dad used to call airplanes caskets in the sky. Till this day I don’t care much for flying, although I do when I must. Peace
I really want to know why on earth the helicopter dived like that?. Especially when investigators say it wasn’t an engine problem. This is so sad. Rip to all families on board.
Was flying with VFR. So person was in a fog cloud not looking at the artificial horizon on his instrument. He was hoping by looking out the window he can make out where his going.
NatsumeMizu But why would you not just continue flying straight, stop and hover in place, or even suddenly go UP? Why make a sudden dive for no reason? I mean I get he may have been disoriented but it still doesn’t make sense
@@coyotelong4349 It's different when you're up there. On ground your inner ear will let you know if you're straight. But in the air covered in fog it's difficult sometimes. And I'm just citing other pilots who have commented on this case. They all seem to agree on this point.
The part that makes me feel physically sick is that those people all had time to contemplate what was going on , for 15 seconds, that is a long time in that situation god bless all xx
Jemma Farrar that is sad. If they weren’t in their seatbelts they would have been raised out of their seats and pitched forward or backward depending on the seat you were in. It was probably chaos!
Thankyou for the reply , It really got to me this crash and to know there was likley chaos before death I think is better than just sitting waiting to die, I suppose the chaos would have not allowed them time to think about what was happening, THANKYOU so much I know this isnt about me but you have made me feel a little lighter about all this horribleness xxxx
The passengers probably didn't realize what was happening until a second or so before they hit, if at all. Once you lose sight of the ground in fog it is extremely difficult to tell what angle the helicopter is at. This is a major contributing factor to the crash. The pilot couldn't see the ground and what felt like level flight was actually a steep bank followed by a dive.
Back in the day, the media tried to portray Kobe’s use of a helicopter from his home in oc to practice/games in la was extravagant. His response was along the lines of, “every minute I can spend with my family instead of sitting in traffic is worth every dollar” When I heard of this crash, it was a punch to the gut knowing the intentions that led to this circumstance e
was most likely because he flew into clouds and became spaciously disoriented and thought he might have felt pitched up but really was straight and level.
The air traffic controls last communication was telling the pilot he was “to low for flight following” and we don’t hear a response from the pilot. I wonder why the pilot stopped responding?
I knew the cospiracy folks would show up eventually. And your absolutely correct something major did happen on that flight, the pilot crashed because of spatial disorentation which has killed many pilots who were extremely qualified and experienced but until you actually experience it yourself, you never know how your body is going to react at that timee Pilot error now let all 9 of the deceased RIP!!!
Thank You for doing this video. My heart goes out to those that were on that flight and to those left behind. This is one of those days that you'll always remember where you were when you learned about this tradegy. May those in the helicopter rest in peace. 😢
@@jogman262 I think they knew. The witness who took the close up pics of the crash site. Said he could see the bottom of the helicopter before it crashed. Meaning the pilot completely lost control within that left turn. All the occupants inside were probably falling to the side. And had a few seconds to realize that was it.
Ms Mae ... I agree with you - those last seconds of life had to be heartwrenching; what comes to my mind is that it was a quick death for all ... Kobe’s death certificate showed a blunt trauma to the head ... it was quick & not drawn out. This is something only God has the answers to. RIH to all 9 souls who lose their lives & continued prayers for all the families 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@dasheriicarte I never flown in my life ant this is why I looked at recreation footage and the pilot was flying in repeated circles for almost a hour the viability was bad moisture was coming from the pacific there was open land where he could had landed it was the pilot's bad judgement to keep flying, and he was way to low for them to track the chopper's coronation the chopper engine staled which caused it to go into a left bank nosedive when a plane or chopper run out of fuel or the engines cut off the air craft goes into a nosedive at high speed upon impact the aircraft blows up throwing out a huge fireball so you know they died quick and you can imagine the carnage of the victims. May they rest in peace.
RIP to Kobe, his daughter and other passengers. I am so sad. Thank you for making video quite early. I love your channel, The flightChannel. Thank you.
Thank you for doing a remarkable job and a very (as of the information we currently have) accurate depiction of what happened. It really seems like this is a case of spatial disorientation caused by VFR into IMC, which likely resulted in loss of control of the aircraft.
My heart. It’s literally breaking as I’m watching this. Much respect to you for not putting the victims names in the title. It shows that this was genuine. Thanks for this. I really wish we could know now what caused the helicopter to dive when the pilot turned. Not knowing is the worst. I pray for all the families who lost loved ones.
According to all the details I've been hearing, I think the chopper was just in too much fog so the pilot didn't realize how close he was to the mountain and was trying to descend out of the fog but by the time he was out, he realized he was too close to the terrain and moving too fast and slammed into the mountain before he could do anything. Just a human error that unfortunately happened to cost the life of a Legend and his innocent fellow loved ones and acquaintances, terribly sad situation tho 😢
@@roaringlionzofficial the chopper did slam into the mountain which is why it was refered to by officials as a 'high energy crash' and the cause of death for all 9 was 'blunt force trauma'
Roaringlionz Productions I don’t believe this is true. The chopper was scattered in pieces, for that to happen the helicopter must of crashed head on to that mountain compared to how it was shown in the video which I think I was wrong
The helicopter didn't have a terrain warning system and another system it was not required to have....a black box ( I think ) All and all if the police were grounded ....HOLY SAKES that's all I'd need not to get on that ride. However RIP to all and so very sad and still unreal.
11:07 There was a police helipad when he took the left turn and started descending (as opposed to ascending, which the pilot had planned). There is a belief that the pilot tuned left and instead of climbing, started descending because there was very low visibility and he knew that there was a police helipad in the vicinity where they attempt do a landing.
I believe the pad was located before he made the turn in Calabasas - but I suppose that could have been his intent...still confused by his speed though if that was his goal...
Flying-Experience you are correct about the Sheriff's Helo pad being close by the crash site. But if the pilot would have stayed on course (if he could see) following Highway 101 instead of making that left into that canyon, his destination was only 8 minutes away. The pilot had over 8,500 hours flying Sikorsky helicopters & over 1,500 hours in that particular helo. He was by far & away the best helicopter pilot in Orange County, an instructor, instrument rated & Kobe's personal pilot. Nothing but the best for Kobe. However, nobody is perfect except Jesus Christ.
Rest in peace the ones you left us. You will be still in our hearts Kobe Bryant, his daughter and 7 others on board. We miss you. Thanks for the report the flight channel 🙏❤😭
we were at snowbird in utah years ago when a medivac heli picked up an injured skier--cloud cover--he came in ok but when taking off he got right into the soup and punched it to get above but took his eyes off the instruments looking for orientation ---big mistake just like n72ex--he sent the heli into the side of the canyon thinking he was going straight up--same thing happened to medivac at salt late international when tower told the heli pilot to hold in the fog--he screwed it into the ground--too many pilots take eyes of instruments when on ifr looking for land orientation--it is very hard to keep the faith,extremely hard..
GVike every other pilot that flew for kobe even in his playing days said that he never pressured them. Maybe seeing all those people and kobe that wanted to get to the game and being such an important guest then maybe he felt the pressure to get there on time. Its super sad man i admired kobe my whole life
I’ve watched a few videos on this crash now that have used the same flight track data and ATC records and have come to the same conclusion. This time around I got the feeling the controller in BUR must have been thinking “special VFR? Not a great idea, man”
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Our thoughts and prayers are with the families and friends of those who have lost their loved ones on board N72EX. 😢
RIP Cobly Bryant
*Kobe
RIP kobe
Absolutely mate, rip
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Huge respect for not feeling it necessary to put Kobe’s name in the title. Well done 👍
Mike Powers agreed!
@@daviesniper5740 when other people die they never put the name of the victims. He was a person ,just like anybody else on the planet. Very sad what happened to him and his daughter though. RIP
@@Ioan9598 They always release the names, what are you talking about? Why are people getting on this fake soapbox, the'yve been listing the names in every air tragedy from the day they notify the relatives.
Exactly , it’s not like in any other plane crash they put a notable occupants name in the title
@Mike Cap I agree with no names, but don't judge others for doing the same thing. They wouldn't be on here if it wasn't Kobe Bryant. They know him, they didn't know the others that died, stop judging people for doing the same thing you're doing. Ya'll doing the same damn thing!!
I am a private pilot , and I fly out fo John Wayne airport. I have been flying for 30 years . I have made this trip several times. I would NEVER have flown in this weather! Pilot Error!
@robert jacobs let's say he got spatial disorientation... why did he still speed up while banking left and diving? Or maybe a better question is could he or would a normal pilot just gone slower through the fog if they go at all? He cuts the communication with ATC and flies up to 1300 ft to 2300ft smooth... then like a rollercoaster... banks left and speeds down... no recording or communication. He had three opportunities, to not move forward and pressed forward anyway... he lastly discountined communication before his final act... if it wasn't suicide it's very suspicious.
John Dana The Pilot was flying VFR. VFR rules state you must be able to visually see. You are NOT ALLOWED to fly into clouds, fog, or anything else. Period!
I would like to know who that Piolet was flying? This all seems more like an Mecca assassin. In flight for 2hrs for a 20 minute flight even in bad weather is not an excuse. My grandfather was a piolet owning his own plane Cesna 172 back in the late 70's and also flew Tigremoths doing contract work spraying crops., Better Piolets don't make these mistakes.
He often flew in bad weather through the Grampians in Victoria Australia, may have come to some close endings but never much took that amount of extra time in a flight plan.
@@JohnBrown-dx6zh You're asking the right question and I've yet to see ANYONE give a reasonable explanation. All I keep reading is "spacial disorientation" as if that's all we need to know. But even if that was the case it still doesn't explain the rapid ascent then sudden, accelerated dive all the way down until impact. This entire horrific tragedy looks more suspicious with each new piece of data.
@@thetoughgroup correct... the only answer is he stalled trying to climb... is/was a stall possible where engines (two) work, but not the propellers or one of the propellers... many experts say this particular helicopter cannot stall doing this rapid ascend maneuver then I heard One Pilot expert say yes it was a stall and that's exactly what the NSTB is going to conclude. This would explain the decent at the speed faster than the helicopter can go... if the helicopter could never have stalled then the conclusion is foul play.
John Altobelli
Keri Altobelli
Alyssa Altobelli
Kobe Bryant
Gianna Bryant
Payton Chester
Sarah Chester
Christina Mauser
Ara Zobayan
You will all be missed 😔
😔😔 very sad......
Very sad 😢😢😢
Wait a minute! The name John Altobelli rings a bell. Wasn't he the guy who was the manager of the Baltimore Orioles in 1983 when they won the World Series? Holy shit! And his daughters as well. Let's drink a toast in honor of John and his daughters and for Kobe and Gigi, and also for Ara, Payton, Christina and Sarah. I think they would appreciate that as they watch over us from their heavenly abode.
@@Lolollol1 You're so edgy and cool bro!
Scooby Carr he was the son of Joe Altobelli, he was the Orioles manager.
I was driving one day when fog suddenly socked in all around me. Every window was White with Fog! I was doing 55 Mph. I quickly decided to get off the freeway and just wait it out on the side of the road and pulled over. I got out of my Car and realized i had parked the car on the slow lane of the FreeWay! I I knew a semi truck would be coming down that lane so i jumped back in and was able to pull the car completely way off the freeway! FOG is lethal in the right conditions. RIP.
Dang, sounds like IFR driving conditions!
Oh my god imagine if you looked back and realized headlights were seconds from nailing into you!!! That’s so scary. They should’ve never left the ground this day.
I'm glad ur safe😩
So you were going to wait parked on the shoulder of the freeway? That is VERY dangerous.
For many of us who are still in denial of this tragic loss of a legend, his daughter, and seven other souls, this video was done in a respectful manner, to help understand why this accident happened like it did. RIP to all.
BS video. Assume Alot of whatthe Pilot did... Video Maker is a Liar & Drama Maker.. don't be fooled by this fake tail.. No Crash, No Deaths, im glade these people didn't die. Look at the fact.. Not this made up BS. Cartoons Drama Fiction Liar..
By far the best video out there regarding the crash of Kobes helicopter. Simple and to the point and VERY tasteful/respectful. 😥 rip to all 9 souls
I thought Kobe owned this helicopter. It says owned by Island Express. Can anyone confirm?
There are many problematic narration issues as well as inaccurate fog representation of the data. For a a much, much better reconstruction of this flight, and especially the fog (and how it looks and feels the same to be ascending fast, when actually banking and descending into a dive), watch here: ruclips.net/video/WirfErQb-sg/видео.html (the aviation community highly approves this as one of the best on RUclips thus far, post-NTSB)
@@donnalee4236 yea no he just rented it from the company when he needed it like ordering an uber.
No this is the best video ruclips.net/video/-ymcG-YKOCM/видео.html
As a pilot, that’s one of them days I would’ve said conditions are too bad to fly!!
@Mike Scott Lets just make shit up why dont we? There is no evidence to suggest that happened. Quite the contrary. Kobe and the pilot had a great rapport and got along great. He been flying kobe for several years for christ sake.
Do you really think kobe would jeopardize his child if the pilot told him the conditions were too dangerous to fly? Your attempt to place the blame on kobe is fucking nonesense.
I live out here in southern California not where the accident happened but in la county and it was foggy the whole night before this should have never happened
4eightyvolt lol
Mike Scott These people are dead because the pilot who as a qualified professional wasn't doing his due diligence. Whether it was his lack of preparation, eg, checking the conditions for the ENTIRE flight route beforehand or his lack of a spine to tell the passengers that he cannot and will not fly in those conditions, the final say was ultimately his to make. IF he knew conditions were dangerous, it doesn't matter what kobe said, those lives were his responsibility and he should've refused. Whether he was pressured or not is moot.
I heard the same pilot talking about it on the fox sports outlets too. They really need to be careful about throwing out speculation when theres no tangible evidence to support it because the brain dead masses are too stupid to comprehend the difference.
@Mike Scott You must of been in the helicopter to observe this..so u was the 10th and Only passenger that survived i guess
Once again, an incredibly well put together video. The attention to detail is top standard. RIP Kobe, his daughter and the rest of the crew.
HORSE SIX ZERO I think he meant “the rest of the passengers”
Chill bro, people die all the time anyway. You don’t see everyone crying for it.
@HORSE SIX ZERO bro chill out there, I obviously ment crew as in passengers (family members). I have a 7 year old, and this tragedy hit me and the whole world very hard.
HORSE SIX ZERO chill, the rest of the crew means all person on flight
@HORSE SIX ZERO There's always that one dude that gotta bitch about something. But even here the dude mentioned the "rest". Go cry about something else
@HORSE SIX ZERO Don't be a troll.
This channel has a HUGE amount of class. You could have capitalized on his name in the title but you didn't out of respect . I really LOVE your channel !
You literally stole the words out of my mouth. Love this channel for doing that.
That's something my mom would say about my channel. Are you being paid?
@@dwandersgaming no I'm not being paid lol . I really mean it !
@@dwandersgaming You're a dumb fucker.
@@simsan9430 not nice !
You were really thorough detailing this tragedy. Also, you were very professional describing this event, not focusing on Kobe and Gianna, but the conditions that might have caused the crash. 9 people lost their lives that day, hopefully we learn from it. RIP and kind thoughts. to all' involved.
WTF, wrong takeoff profile, calls at the wrong time, helicopter totally wrong altitude. Impact on totally wrong position.
It has nothing to do with the actually case. Besides that, there is still a chance for a mechanic failure.
Horrible video. Using a tragedy to generate clicks in a total inaccurate way.. NO GO.
TheDonkeyPilot get a life, kid.
@@onlylight6857 Let the Kobe fans act like that.
@@stefan149 If you are so disappointed with this channel please watch something else. Please dont be so negative.
I find it to be ridiculous how so many Kobe haters take the time to Bitch and Complain about why Kobe fans make a big deal about the loss of their Hero and Role Model. Fucking hating ass losers. Get a life. If you’re not a Kobe Fan then don’t watch the videos or comment. Because if Kobe or his daughter were not aboard the helicopter then nobody would be talking about this period.
You need not wait until the final NTSB report. I’ve done the research and can tell you most likely exactly what happened.
IMHO, although ultimately the pilot was at fault, the company he worked for set him up for failure, and thus has some complicity. Before I explain what happened, let me give you some background including of myself.
I am a former B-52 pilot and certified instrument flight instructor. Unlike most civilian CFIIs, I loved taking my students up in real weather when the opportunity arose, and they very much appreciated it because the real thing is a lot different than simulators and being under the hood for training. You have to trust those instruments with your life, even when they are telling you that you’re flying straight and level, but it feels like “up” is somewhere to the left and slightly below your left knee (I’m not kidding). It’s called “spatial disorientation” (SpD) and the onset happens quickly. (If you choose to go with what your body feels is right rather than what your instruments are telling you is right, before you know it, you’ll be upside down in a nose dive toward the ground.) Call me weird, but I always liked amusement park thrill rides, so I looked forward to flying on such days with all the weird accompanying sensations. I was very comfortable flying both VFR and IFR and sometimes would file an inflight IFR flight plan when VFR weather turned against me, something else my VFR pilots appreciated learning how to do in an emergency if they ever had to.
Now the background with Ara Zobayan, Kobe’s pilot, was that although he was IFR rated, he probably rarely flew IFR and especially IFR in IMC conditions. His chopper had IFR instruments, but they weren’t certified for IFR flight. That means he could use them to fly IFR (assuming they worked properly), but he wouldn’t have been legal doing that. The helicopter company he worked for was not cleared for IFR operations, and the vast majority of the time the weather in that part of southern California was VMC and thus an IFR rating wasn’t really necessary from a commercial point of view. Also, VFR flights are fast from point A to B. With an IFR flight, you might have to hold or divert, and it could take substantially longer to get to your destination, something a customer like Kobe wouldn’t have liked. With that background, here’s what happened.
The weather wasn’t great; it was barely VFR, thus Zobayan’s request for Special VFR. Special VFR is sort of something between VFR and IFR, where you’re still clear of clouds, but close enough to them for ATC to want to know what you’re up to so as to make sure their IFR aircraft don’t pop out of a cloud and crash into you. So Zobayan was flying closely below the clouds, but the terrain kept rising on him. Being in a helicopter, he could have just stopped and landed almost anywhere, but when you just land anywhere, that’s a potential lawsuit waiting to happen if the owner of the property doesn’t like helicopters landing on his turf without permission. There’s also the pressure of providing the advertised service to a high-profile client, that is getting them to their intended destination on time as promised. And last there is the pressure to avoid IFR flight because that’s got questions from the FAA and helicopter company written all over it (after you land), including the real possibility of losing your pilot’s license and/or being fired from your job. (Remember his helicopter company was not certified for IFR flights.) So Zobayan had a lot of pressure on him to maintain SFVR, almost no matter what. And if he’s been used to successful flights in SVFR, he probably thought at any second the weather would get better and he’d be back to comfortable flying-but it didn’t get better this time.
To avoid the clouds, he had to fly so low to the ground that SOCAL couldn’t see him on radar, and it appears they couldn’t hear him even if he could hear them, so there was no flight following to help him steer clear of not only other aircraft, but bad weather and even mountains. He probably felt all alone. So, he sees the terrain rising on him and instinctively pulls up to avoid it and guess what, now he’s in the clouds-which literally is like being in another world compared to VFR flight. Feeling very uncomfortable flying in real IMC conditions, rather than doing the safest thing (obviously in 20-20 hindsight) and just keep climbing (of course using his instruments), he probably desperately started looking outside for the ground again, not paying attention to what his instruments were telling him, especially his ADI. Entering into the clouds in a climbing left bank, immediately SpD set in and probably a descending left turn was what normal level flight felt like to his body so he stayed with the feeling, not moving the stick much, as he was looking outside. Unfortunately, most likely be broke through the clouds with just a second to realize that he was looking straight at the ground and about to crash when his body was telling him he should be seeing a level horizon-probably not enough time to even process his visual sense so as to be shocked at what he saw. He was already dead. Most likely his passengers never saw what hit them, but if so, maybe literally at the last second; probably not enough time to even get scared.
In 20-20 hindsight, as soon as he realized he was unable to make contact with SOCAL, he should have made a 180, got back with the previous ATC and figured out a safe place to land. He would have had to explain to his passengers that the weather was worse than he thought and it was unsafe to fly toward their destination any further. (Some customers would have been okay with that, but others would have complained, saying they should have been told the weather was bad so they could have driven.) But his company did him (and obviously their customers too) a disservice by allowing SVFR flights, but not having a viable company policy for what to do if the weather reports are wrong and the weather is worse than planned such that the pilot accidentally flies into the clouds. The policy should have been Safety First, and therefore if a pilot accidentally flies into the clouds, to just keep climbing until VFR again, notify ATC of the emergency, try to land in VFR as soon as possible, or have ATC help you land IFR somewhere as soon as practical, and the company will take any heat from ATC if there is any, and the pilot will not be blamed in any way. It appears that second-choice safe option was entirely discouraged by the company. The company should have had at least one IFR rated helicopter for SVFR flights just in case the weather was worse than reported and a pilot found himself accidentally in it. If that required the company be IFR rated, then so be it, or don’t allow your pilots to fly SVFR. SVFR can quickly turn to IFR unintentionally. Or they could have had a very simple safety-related policy: if the cops ain’t flyin’, we ain’t flyin’.
Update 1:
33moneyball made a comment that might explain Zobayan's motivation for deciding to make such a flight in such poor weather conditions. Read his comment and my reply if you are also interested in that aspect of the incident.
Update 2:
Steven Condas obtained audio of Zobayan talking to SOCAL (ruclips.net/video/M_Dpm144KXo/видео.html). Read his comments below about his slightly different take than mine. I now take back my "he felt all alone" and change it to "he felt extremely nervous for lying". He was in contact with SOCAL when he flew into the weather, and he even informed SOCAL that he intended to climb above it. So he initially did the right thing, or at least knew what the right thing to do was--CLIMB! Let's give him some credit for that. But the audio does open a whole new can of worms. It appears to me that Zobayan lied to ATC.
Here's what he told SOCAL: "we gotta go to go ahead and climb to go above the layers and we can stay with you". He entered the weather, but continued to squawk 1200 indicating that he was VFR which he wasn't. It looks like he was hoping to quickly get above the clouds where he could see outside again, but if later asked how he did that, his story would have been that he saw a break in the clouds, and flew through that. Who could prove him wrong? Of course SOCAL immediately wanted to know where he was because he could be climbing straight into one of their aircraft, so they asked him to ident, which he did with a 1200 code indicating he was VFR when he wasn't. So all this is probably racing through his mind: he climbed, but still didn't clear the clouds, he's still in the weather (which he doesn't have much real experience with), he's misleading ATC (i.e. lying) about his VFR status, and ATC is wanting to carry on a conversation with him distracting him from flying, which he is struggling now with. With all that distraction going on, including being nervous about if you're going to be caught lying to ATC, it appears the last thing on his mind was what his ADI was telling him. (Steven points out that in 2015 he had been disciplined by the FAA for flying in poor conditions, so potentially reliving that was probably on his mind too.) And last, but not least, SpD quickly set in and his brain was simply too overloaded to safely operate anything, much less a helicopter.
In 20-20 hindsight, he should have focused on his climb and immediately declared an emergency to SOCAL while continuing the climb, noting that he was in the weather, rather than desperately try to cover for his mistake including giving the impression he was VFR when he wasn't. Granted, he probably would have gotten into some serious legal trouble--AFTER SOCAL helped him safely land the helicopter somewhere, but everyone would still be alive. Lesson learned: honesty is the best policy.
Thank you for putting the explanation into layman's terms. It all makes sense now.
The most rational these pieces fit explains why the pilot went left then into a nose dive. Considering the pilots thinking and reactions
This looks like negligence on the aircraft company & we should be pleased someone with experience knows this exact scenario. & can explain it to us simply enough. What a tragedy! Instead get to a stable place, make another plan!
Mark16:15 Thank You.. 👍 I hope they didn’t suffer.
@@ltcam2500 IMHO, I don't think they did, even the pilot. When they finally broke out of the clouds, and saw what was going on, they were dead before their minds could even process what they were seeing.
Massive Respect to The Flight Channel for not using NBA Star Kobe Bryant's name in title or thumbnail for more views...🙌
Created like a true Creator of Air-Crash investigation channel. Hats off! 🎩
This is objectively True.
well it got suggested to me after watching a video that had his name on the title and sure enough his name is also in the tags,
so you were wrong. A simple plugin in chrome can show you the tags the youtuber put in the video.
Tags are like titles but hidden from the viewer. So you were wrong about that.
@@RamblingRamul Still appreciate him for not taking it in title & thumbnail as well for additional views, which others are taking....
Learn to appreciate!
channel left out the witness report of helicopter at 100' and 5 mph at the water district building.
JJ=you are a drug addict==seek help===or stop acting like a FUCKING libaterd !
Rest in peace to Kobe Bryant and everyone else who died in the crash.
Cliff Padilla boi
Why single out Kobe Bryant? They were all human beings.
Let's just appreciate that this guy didn't put "Kobe Bryant" in the title...
(Hmm it seems that I should've kept my mouth shut)
By using just the "tail number N72EX" hes relegated mr Bryant to just another swinging d!ck. :-)
@@willc5512 how rud e how do you even see from under that white hood and sheet
NasrulTube who cares. Same shit we all know its about kobe Rip kobe
This comment was already made. Quit fishing for likes
Lmao but your dumb ass comment did
If something just doesn't look, smell, vibe or feel right about a flight or if you're made aware of risk factors for taking the initial flight, DON'T DO IT! There's absolutely nothing wrong with taking the drive or waiting for a better opportunity to fly. We often get too caught up in schedules, routines and the hustle and bustle of life that we fail to realise that some things just aren't worth risking. Not many second chances when things go wrong with flights. Just don't risk it. R.I.P to all on board and God bless their families and friends.
I agree
It's sad that 3 sets of parents failed that advise. Risking your life is your privilege...risking your children's...is not your Privilege
Agree, flying is usually a luxury, not a necessity, especially for just going across town. It's not like the more you fly, the less risk there is of being in a crash. It's the other way around. The totality of Kobe's legacy will be tarnished by this unnecessary tragedy.
david turner I wouldn’t reach as far as to say it will tarnish his legacy, yes we all make mistakes and some people make irreversible mistakes that may be life changing but I can say that due to this tragedy it amplifies what was done in the window of time he was living because in reality he’s accomplished so much more than 90% of people will ever in their lifetime although all may not have been expedient saying that none of it will matter is like saying he didn’t give 100% to what he believed in, family or his passion
@@protouch502 There were 8 other people on board that helicopter, who were there at the behest of Kobe Bryant.
Huge respect for not putting Kobe's name in the title 👍
Ikr?
F A C T S. Much love for that.
There are ways around that. I did a search for Kobe and this video showed up
Don't worry some dingbat in the comments will mention it
Oh wait.
that wouldnt have done anyone any good :o
I hope after this tragic accident that the FAA will get their act together and make them have the necessary equipment on board to help the pilots when they lose there way due to weather conditions, also make it mandatory to have flight and data recorders on these big copters.
Even if this system was installed the pilot had broken the law, which resulted in the death of others.
First of all they were told not to fly second of all they did not use the equipment
the pilot shouldnt have been in the air that morning... or shoulda landed in Glendale... thw company was not even certified to fly in fog conditions... rogue pilot... RIP Kobe... 😭 he trusted them literally with his life and his daughters life 😭😭
1k20a the pilot didn’t break any laws. He did everything by the books.
Robert XD Gaming yeah you’re clueless.
Might be pressure on the pilot to get a high profile client where he needed to go....If LAPD aviation unit was grounded, he should have been also.
He was IFR
@@nuclearthreat545 part 135 cert was not IFR certified and IFR skills are perishable if not practiced over time.
@@nuclearthreat545 Special VFR actually.
LAPD fly different helicopters that are not designed to fly in weather this helicopter was able to fly in. This guy got disoriented and didnt realize he was headed down, probably trying to go above the fog
Good reason to have 2 pilots even on helicopters with this amount of passengers.
A Dad always wants and try’s to protect his daughter... at that very sad moment... there wasn’t anything he could do, and that’s tragic.
@Chi Sam, what's wrong WITH YOU ?!
@Chi Sam, you don not even know how to use a comma! Go do something useful other than bothering people.
rest in peace to kobe bryantt and everyone on board
The pilot sounded tensed when he said"ok we'll continue holding " hmmm
Have you ever been delayed at an airport? Do you get a sense that its fun to wait? It isn't. He had to wait for other traffic to be cleared so he could proceed through their airspace. He wasn't tense. It was an acquiescence.
Pilot sounded tense on the westbound 118 as well.
@@silviodelgadojr I think people are really bad and interpreting somebody's emotional state based on how they sound when talking to ATC. He sounded a lot like a pilot using an appropriate tone to talk to ATC. Unless you have some recordings of his voice to compare it to, there's no basis for that interpretation
Pilot decided to fly in the mountains in the foggy conditions and low height and stopped responding to ATC. Even ATC was not able to understand what he was thinking he was doing. I don't understand this either. Then he lost orientation in the fog. He was untrained to follow instruments so he followed his instincts and crashed.
I suppose he didn't noticed he put the helicopter into nosedive till the last moment. It was probably spacial disorientation together with EGO to be blamed.
This should be a big warning to all pilots.
@macks Smith Were those 20 people waiting for helicopter charter flights or fixed wing aircraft. They are to entirely different flight operations. Helicopters can stop and hover. Fixed wing aircraft can't do that. Thats why they require 3 statute miles of visibility.
I wish there was the "Everyone Survives" text...
@Danniel Nikitins
Totally avoidable.
mt3na like the Dale Earnhardt jr & family survived their plane crash in August 2019, very scary
mt3na The helicopter exploded on impact
Danniel Nikitins Are you trying to say the death of Kobe, his daughter and the other passengers on board is justified, because they would soon or later anyway face death? Sorry, but we don’t need the thoughts of a depressed atheist.
yes...for sure......they survived and are alive and well in Heaven .... it's the one's left here on earth without them that suffer forever.
You're a great man for not putting Kobe's name in the title
uh why would he? that would clearly be a clout grab which is what so many people are doing. this channel focuses on the crashes themselves and informs and not to benefit their own name.
Why? What's the difference? Why does it matter?
Wolfe Twitzer People would use kobe’s name for views
who cares
@@wolfetwitzer5152 Because he's not self-promoting his youtube channel. There are a lot of people out there trying to profit from his death. It's important to many fans of Kobe.
Eeesh, it's hard to believe at 9:42 they still had view out their windows of homes and such, but were only a few minutes from their death plunge, which would have been absolutely terrifying as they fell the 4000 feet per minute. God bless all 9 on board. May God be with them and their families the rest of the way.
I’m watching this and screaming at the Pilot to just land the damn helicopter on an open field. Why go into the fog & mountains. RIP to all aboard.💔
@macks Smith You know who are the Best Pilots in the world, at least self proclaimed. And you know they tend to be Overconfident, Risking, Cutting corners, trying to save couple of minutes (money) because of delayed flight and so on. It is in the genetics bro. Responsible pilot would turn around in such conditions.
hah, this comment nailed it:
Easy to see that you dont know what you are talking about! Have you ever been in a plane or a helicopter? When your body is affected by G-forces natural to your weight experienced towards the seat your mind does not react to the direction you are actually going. This is the danger when flying into fog, snow or other means of loosing visual preferences this is called whiteout, remember that he is flying and controlling his helicopter according to his visual senses (eyes). Flying by instruments means a whole lot of different planning and flight paths according to this. When flying by visual preferenses and into foggy conditions you don't emmediatly go "blind" your brain will first try to imagine what you see or don't see. If you let go of the stick in a plane that is well trimmed according to flight speed, it will mostly fly straight due to the aerodynamics (of course it will want to crash eventually) but if you let go of the stick in a helicopter it will loose control directly. A helicopter is naturally unstable due to the way it counteracts the gravitation forces by pulling/pushing air with its main rotor and the main rotor is "balancing" on top of the helicopter according to stick input, if you are flying forward and the slightest release backwards of the stick forces the helicopter to go up and the forces on the helicopter changes and it needs to be counteracted by input of (the foot pedals) or yaw. If correct pedal pressure (depens on the helicopter and main rotor rotation direction) is not input the helicopter will start to turn (YAW) left or right and the wind forces will try to tip the helicopter over on it's side (called banking) uncontrolled banking is often catastrophic on a helicopter especially at low altitude. The more a halicopter is banking the less lift it will create and it goes fast towards the ground. Here is where the gravitational forces comes in to fool you, if you are traveling forward and you are in the air, and your seating direction are changed according to acceleration or de-acceleration, your mind understands this as falling, rising sliding, breaking or accelerating according to the gravitational forces and this forces can be all around you like you are sitting inside a ball that is thrown around. Loss of control happens before your body and brain understand it. And when the person understand that control is lost the helicopter can already be upside down without feeling it. It is so difficult to fly IFR if you are not trained to it, and it is almost impossible to change from VFR ti IFR in a second if you are not prepared to do it and especially if overwhelmed with a fog whiteout condition. The helicopter did not only fly into IFR conditions it was (IMC) instrument meteorological conditions.
Oh my this became a bit longer than expected. Hope it helps you to understand a little more about the helicopter flying aspect of life.
That not how this works AT ALL... fog is disorienting. Easy to make such claims when you aren't in that seat.
@macks Smith *May have, not "My of."
Same here
DAMN I WISH ALL THE VICTIMS WOULD’VE JUST TAKE THAT 2HRS DRIVE RATHER THAN THE 30MINS FLIGHT🤦♂️ rip to all the victims
Len Len The victims were better off taking the 30 minutes flight, instead of a two hour drive. It was a major pilot miscomprehension that cause the fatality of all nine lives including his very own.
Jerome Graham-Record agreed. Flying is safer than driving
Mateo Ahumada Indeed
I agree. I also wish this simulation had been far more accurate. Starting with the amount of fog, since this does not depict how blind they were in the slightest based on live reports from the weather service (and other pilots and witness video). This video also did a poor job of not using quotations to differentiate from their independent narration, and also implied the left turn was intentional, which NTSB clarified quite clearly was not the case, via ATC comms. He thought he was going up and straight and was too blinded by the fog to see he'd lost track of his path and was banking left and downwards.
The steep descent at a high speed speaks to the fact that he felt he was climbing sharply and didn't realise until the last 15 seconds or so that he was doing the opposite. Spatial disorientation from taking his hand off the stick for a second can cause this bank and roll if the autopilot turns off, which likely happened, and to correct this change, he made a false judgment of what was straight and upwards, and instead moved left and downwards.
For a much better reconstruction of the fog and the sense of ascending fast, instead of banking and descending, watch here: ruclips.net/video/WirfErQb-sg/видео.html (Aviation community highly approves this as one of the best on RUclips thus far, post-NTSB)
Mateo Ahumada Not in low visibility.
A very timely, intelligent and professional production. It does seem likely that this accident will finally spur the FAA into making major technical improvements to helicopter operations in the USA, which the NTSB has been urging for years. It is early days in this particular investigation, but it seems likely that the pilot succumbed to "Getthereitus" and suffered spatial disorientation once he lost sight of the freeway. An entirely preventable crash.
This is a simple case of over pitching the helicopter and yes it all was preventable.
@@jimsmith283 < This is most likely, and due to spatial disorientation, pilot rolled it over during a pop-up maneuver.
@@stockmatusow3092
No. Over pitching or retreating blade stall or both caused by Spacial distortion.
It's the only answer to the loss of lift in the rotor disk.
@@jimsmith283 I said that, lol?
@@stockmatusow3092
Oh then no worries.
😁😎
Kobe and Gigi were at our school about two weeks before the crash. One of the top high school basketball players in the country (who is now a freshman in the WNBA) attended our school and had Kobe as a trainer. She was close with Gianna as well. It was a huge media buzz to have such a famous person in our one stop light town, and one of my close friends who happened to be on the varsity team was lucky enough to get a selfie with him. We were stunned when news of his death hit us. May all who were on board, not just the Bryants, rest in paradise.
Those poor people must have felt such terror knowing they were in a dive and about to crash.
There's a very good possibility they never saw it coming. It appears the pilot had spatial disorientation where he started flying by what his body felt was level flight, rather than what his instruments were telling him (probably in a vain attempt to look for the ground and VFR again). Those passengers may have felt the same way, that they were in level flight too. Maybe at the very last second if they happened to see outside after breaking through the clouds someone might have seen their fate, but probably died before their brain had a chance to process the info.
@Doctor MindBenDa Maybe you're right. IMHO I just think you are probably wrong. You get a group like that, and they're probably talking about basketball, and not focusing much on what's going on outside when there's not much to see anyway because of the fog and low ceiling. You can't see much forward. They may not have even looking outside at the time.of the crash. And even so, if someone blinked, they would have missed it.
@Doctor MindBenDa You think I'm wrong; I think you're wrong. Neither of us were there to know all the details, therefore I concede I could be wrong. I appreciate you sharing your opinion.
@Doctor MindBenDa Good point, but I think you'll agree that no matter how much experience a person has, they can still be wrong sometimes. For example, the Kobe's pilot had something like 8000 hours of flight experience.
Doctor MindBenDa I agree with what you said. They were all aware that they were going down, There’s no way to be oblivious to it. Also, that they all passed in different times. I believe pilot passed on impact, Fire definitely finished the job for
Dang, is there a flight that you can't re-create, this is amazing man. I loved the scene at 1:20 with the inbound flight coming in. Nice job once again tfc, thank you for getting this one on as quick as you did and will be waiting for the updated video.
I was an air evacuation paramedic in the military. I was always on helicopters. going into New Mexico from Arizona being a 19 year old , you dont even think things like this would happen. The fact is a person is a sitting duck and you are at the mercy of the pilot.
I agree... but In this case, I am starting to think that there is more to the crash than just simply weather condition doing this or the fact that the helicopter was NOT certified. I can't believe that they only had ONE PILOT manning this helicopter especially with that many passengers on board. I thought the helicopter gracefully crashed to the ground not nose pointing down to the ground. I was wondering how they all died from the crash. Now it all makes sense. This helicopter fell from 2,500 feet up in the sky NOSE DOWN slamming into the GROUND; KILLING EVERYONE on board on IMPACT. That, my friend creolelady182, sounds A LOT LIKE the helicopter was brought down INTENTIONALLY just like that Boeing because the co-pilot's girlfriend dumped him and so he decided to lock everyone out of the cockpit. Then, brought down the plane KILLING everyone on board. *Why would helicopter pilot gain 1000 ft in altitude quickly and not respond to the air traffic controllers? Within next few minutes the helicopter NOSE DIVED to the ground.* Even if the helicopter engine was damaged, the pilot could have slowed down the descend enough to not get everyone killed on board... Yep... I think, they need to look at the pilot and his background.... Something ain't adding up here. :)
If President does it, it is NOT ILLEGAL I agree. They initially found 3 bodies outside of the craft as they were ejected (pilot, Kobe, one of the mothers) they found the others in the wreckage. If they were ejected it had to have hit slightly tilted. He was also go 180 when he had just been going about 90 mph a few minutes before. Who speeds up in uncertain conditions? It sounds like he nosed down and sped up. Crazy!
Best comments I've read anywhere. Yes, once we understand this helicopter rocketed up to gain altitude, then pitched nose down (while banking left), and increased speed to the very limits of its design capacity until impact, then it becomes hauntingly apparent the cause of this accident is likely much more than fog. RIP to all the passengers. God be with their families.
In Vietnam I flow a Bell Uh-1 nickname the Huey... in terrible weather at night time... as he was climbing up through the clouds he probably got disoriented and then the aircraft probably went inverted and did a nosedive you would have seconds to react to come out of a situation like that... in Canada they always have two pilots and in this case with bad weather they should have had two pilots... plus they grounded everybody and they gave that pilot special virtual flight Rule clearance that is a big No-No...Sad -Sad accident...RIP To all the souls that perished on that day...Sometimes as a pilot you need to say the word "NO" even if it means getting fired better to arrive late then not at all...🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
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*as he was climbing up through the clouds he probably got disoriented* Even so Robert my friend, why would or should the helicopter make an abrupt and sudden change in direction so fast, because the pilot is disoriented? Is it because there is a natural tenancy to push or pull on a lever or pedal just because you don't know which way the craft is flying? Is it not safe to say that when and if you are disoriented for you to not do anything so ABRUPT but keep the craft flying in the same settings or input until you figure out what is going on by looking at the instruments? Seriously, I am really confused why pilots do that or feel the need to suddenly push or pull on a pedal or lever just because they can't tell if the craft is flying right side up.
It’s still mind blowing how he just got disoriented when he was a very experienced pilot. There is more to this accident unless he had a stroke or heart attack mid flight. Seems fishy to me.
You better believe it
I think pilot was distracted.
Once the ATC couldn’t request the following he decided to use his iPad he had on board which also gave him a update on weather conditions etc...and maybe it had some sort of app where it could of possibly gave him the info he needed( hence what the following would of gave him if he wasn’t flying so low) and just like a person driving a car and looks down at a text message ..maybe he did the same and we all know if u take ur eyes of the road even For a second it can cause you to veer off a road without realizing it until it’s to late. Just a theory , but I really believe it’s what happened. Dropping that kind of elevation that fast with NO Engine or mechanical issues - really only reason I can see besides pilot having a heart attack ?!
Kobe was sabotaged!
He was human also Respect the dead
He might have been doing cocaine
Ive seen every episode of " air disasters" , with that being said, it makes me wonder if this pilot simply lost his position due to fog , couldnt tell where he was or which direction was which until it was too late
can't help but think he had a heartattack or something
@@tomlevitt4133 That thought hadn't occurred to me. The fact that there is no indication from the pilot as to what was going on prior to the crash, makes a good argument for him having some kind of medical episode. But I guess an autopsy would have shown a medical issue.
@@tomlevitt4133 why did he put the helicopter into a 4ooo a minute dive???? Nobody seems to want to address that issue
@@3RTracing because no one knows perhaps
Maybe he decided to suicide and take them with him?
We appreciate you . This is very respectable
I was actually planning on requesting this in another video because I believe this is the first time you’ve used a helicopter in your videos. But you did it and I’m so proud of your work. RIP to Kobe, Gigi, and all other souls on board N72EX
I don't think this is his first time putting a helicopter in his videos?
But still I loved the video, like all of TFC's videos. Beautiful edited and explained very clearly, but heartbreaking..
As a non pilot, but someone interested in all aspects of aviation, thank you for your comprehensive and detailed exposition of this tragedy. Along side the Flight Channel video your explanation has given me a better understanding.
Great job! It sounds like the pilot became spatially disoriented.
Do u not FEEL a steep dive tho? In ur gut?
Laquinton Wagner When you fly into a cloud bank with minimum visibility that’s the last thing a pilot should do. Due to the vibrations of the helicopter without a visual aid your body is tricked into thinking it’s diving or turning when in reality you’re flying straight & level.
@@JTScott1988lol. Yeah ..its called spatial disorientation .
@@toetz4491 what removes the sense of gravity tho? The body just chooses to switch it off???
@@JTScott1988 its in our inner ears (vestibular system) .we have our own internal gyroscope..but we need VISUAL REFERENCE ..because wehumans are NOT intended to fly like birds lol. Watch and learn
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That Van Neuys controller has a very soothing voice.
Dee Anna Like how is she even a real person? I feel like I’m being hypnotized when I hear her talk
when she spoke it sounded like a computer at first then a radio host lol.
This is gonna be the most viewed video on this channel in a years time
This will be the most liked comment
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Probably not since it says the video will be replaced when new info becomes available
@@jamisons109 So you mean when the NTSB/FAA finish their investigation in a couple a years?
My heart was beating out my chest watching that helicopter nose dive like that. I can't imagine the fear they must have been experiencing at that moment smh. RIP to all the victims 🙏🏽
Rodnye Theoc I heard the autopsy where disturbing and horrible . RIP to all the people who passed
They probably didnt even know what hit them.
I feel what you say.....so sad😢
It appears the pilot was totally spatially disoriented and possibly in a panic considering the celebrity on board with his daughter and friends, under duress to deliver them in a timely manner (as that is why they avoided driving in the first place) he already had to waste some time in a hold over Burbank. I am only speculating this of course, but it seems highly possible that neither he nor the passengers were aware that they were in a dive at all being in thick fog . I mean that rate of descent, that extreme dive attitude at 160 knots would be suicidal otherwise. He may have actually thought he was ascending in altitude to clear the terrain that he must have known was somewhere near him or at least in level flight!!! Still does not explain why he would not be monitoring his altitude, gyro, (maybe the older helo did not have proper equipment, we know there was no terrain warning system!! seems suicidal in itself considering the places they flew to and as to gyros they had usually relied on the rotors servos for pitch correction according to a friend of mine, I have no idea, it is a weird situation here. This helo should never have been flying this route other than on totally clear days if you ask me).
This is the problem with taking celebrities somewhere on private aircraft, especially helos. Who has the balls to tell him "look, the Santa Monica mountains are banked in by fog and that is the way I am familiar with taking here, I fly under visual flight rules, we are not certified for instrument flight rules and that would take forever even if we were. You gonna have either drive or miss this one Mamba" Kobe was a cool and highly intelligent guy, I am certain he would have accepted a logical explanation of the potential hazards, just so tragic.
Still, a mind-boggling to me why that chopper descended just like that. The communication with the air traffic control seems to be normal and blink of an eye they're gone. RIP to all on board.
Interesting what comes of pilot's autopsy... Heart attack or stroke ?
Spacial Disorientation,, didn’t know where dafuq he was,, SMFH,
Robert Bolivarr chopper was sabotaged?
J Tikkanen ... why?
It might be a headache ?
Thank you for doing this rip kobe Bryant his daughter and all the other passengers
An accident that should have never happened. The pilot should have landed in a Park anywhere. All those lives lost that way is so sad my God...
Yessss! I was thinking this myself! Like why didnt he just land the dam thing? Or why did they even try to fly that day? Or even if they would of waited till the fog burn off? They would of been late.....but......ALIVE!!! This TRAGEDY Hurts me DEEPLY.......so i can just imagine the pain of all the love ones left behind to deal with this Nightmare for the rest of their lives! Rip 9 💔😓🙏🏿
It was not an airplane, it was a helicopter for Christ sakes why couldn't he landed in an open area if he felt they were in danger.
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Eros generally in a cockpit by the time you realize you’re in danger it’s too late. Experience also breeds complacency, he’d flown that path many times before and what’s called “get-there-itis” likely set in. Pressure from a VIP onboard likely didn’t help either. But, it’s impossible to know what he was thinking, I REALLY hope the FAA finally requires a CVR and FDR on parr 135 operations now, it’s been recommended by the NTSB for years and the FAA has ignored it. Had there have been those devices installed there would likely be a lot less guessing.
Also, vertigo takes seconds to happen in the clouds especially if you’re not current on IFR. Again, he likely didn’t realize what happened until maybe 30 seconds before it was done.
We just watched another simulation and my husband and i think he just panicked and lost complete control. This video made me cry.
My question is...why does he has to continue to fly, after initially witnessed the weather changes? Why couldn’t he just turn back? It’s so heartbreaking how everyone just vanished out from this earth. GOD have mercy!🙏🏿
10:01-10:29 Seeing that thick fog gave me chills. RIP to the 9 victims.
What
I’m wondering if the pilot had some sort of sudden medical emergency. I’m not a pilot, but why would he have made such a sudden and steep descent? It almost looked like a dive...
yeah i have the same thought if the helicopter didn't have any mechanical issues why did he descend that fast did he have a medical condition or i hate to say this it almost seemed like suicide.
This video didn't say the 101 freeway he followed was going uphill and he made a left turn to avoid the fog cover, same reason he flew so low without regard to the terrain. They should have never flown in the fog that day. It showed how dangerous helicopter is.
@@philmatoph It's called spacial disorientation. It happens often when pilots lose visual reference. He more than likely just lost control of the aircraft. At low altitude, that is a recipe for disaster.
i think maybe stalled somehow?
It looks like he think he has engaged the autopilot and its not actually capturing and engaged.
To all that "can't understand the dive" or "sounds like the acft stalled"????
Take a look into other NTSB IIMC (Inadvertent Instrument Meteorological Conditions--"in the clouds") crashes and you'll see a common thread...typically hit the ground in a step descent at an incredible rate of descent. If you've never experienced Spatial Disorientation the you can't possibly imagine what that pilots body felt. Once you're in the clouds you lose ALL reference to what is up, down, sideways, slantways, etc. Combine that feeling, along with attempting to turn the aircraft in the clouds, it quickly becomes the "recipe for disaster" that happens when pilots go IIMC and do NOT IMMEDIATELY transition to instruments! (You can EASILY turn upside down and lose all control...EASILY) Transitioning to instrument flight is the ONLY chance you have to get spatially oriented again. Bottom line is...he should have landed! Its a helicopter! LAND...anywhere. Trust me, people LOVE to come out to see helicopters that land in their backyards, parking lots, HWY 101, especially when you're carrying a VIP.
We have a saying in helicopter aviation due to our unique ability to slow down to ZERO AIRSPEED....NEVER outrun your visibility!
@s ofg are you dumb as fuck?
He wasn't looking at his instruments but looking out the window. That's what we just saw on another simulation.
Terry Zacharias
Agreed... The Hippocratic Oath, used in medicine, truly would have applied here for the pilot- “First, do no harm”
When in that fog above the hills, probably a bit disoriented and maybe panicking a bit, literally his first priority should have just been making sure he didn’t crash the heli... Just hover. Collect your composure. Then bring it straight up to an altitude to get back on radar for further instructions.
But no matter what, above all else, DON’T do something rash and crash the heli. This is really frustrating, in addition to being tragic... It really seemed easily preventable
Yes you're right about that. I have a huge backyard. So whoever needs to land a chopper back there they are more than welcome.
Terry Zacharias the spatial disorientation that you describe, is it common or does it only occur in situations like this where there is an issue with maintaining ascension due to extreme weather? Besides that, everything you described makes perfect sense. Now the biggest unanswered question is why didn’t he just land when he was in an area that had slightly better visibility? It seems like once they made their way closer to mountain area, the fog thickness was worse
It's so bizarre that this crash happened. The pilot seemed competent, there was no sign of panic or apprehension in his voice, it's almost as if something went wrong mechanically with the aircraft.
I'm certain myself that Bryant likely asked the pilot if he could do it, and the pilot likely said yes. Didn't want to let Bryant down. But ultimately let him down in the worst way.
I agree.When people work for celebrities,they often times don't want to let them down.Another example of this is, Micheal Jackson's Doctor.Micheal wanted the drugs,so his doctor administered them to him.
Same thing with Aliyah and her plane crash. The pilots warned her crew they had too much weight but Aliyah crew insisted on going anyway saying they will be fine and needed to go and stay on schedule.
You are certain??
Marsalle Francisco
My name is Michael too and the ‘e’ after the ‘a’ in the name Michael.
Kobe was found dead holding his daughter..
A few weeks ago I was driving to work in the morning ...foggy..so scary I almost turned back but you dont know where you're going ..like driving blind..horrible ..but I got out of it somehow . Thought I was going to wreck..it confuses you and you dont know what's up ahead ... RIP to all the victims ..I'm sorry this happened...so frustrating
Thick Fog is really frightening, daughter had a trip planned with my two young grandkids, I told her she could go but the Kids aren't going anywhere, common sense doesn't cost anything.
Imagine how disorienting it is in the air!
I work for a company that flies S-76's as well as other helicopters, and I just don't understand why only 1 pilot was on board. It could be a 10 minute flight, but always have two pilots in that cockpit.
My only guess for that is purely to save money. That's a pretty rugged copter for one person to fly and not as much visibility?
They always had the same pilot too. Not two
Can you educate me on why the S-76 needs two pilots? My father is a retired helicopter pilot so I have a good knowledge base, but am always learning. Thanks!
@@louisg3598 On the contrary. It's an ideal helo to fly in these conditions, with a sophisticated autopilot . I do agree that two pilots might have resulted in a different outcome though.
I absolutely agree! What happens if the pilot becomes ill and can’t fly the aircraft.
This still hurts 8 months later
Went to a continuing writing class, at OCC. Always saw Altobelli with his team, every week. A wonderful family. I couldn't bring myself to attend their Memorial yesterday, at Angel's Stadium. Too close...
I got a bad feeling from this..... how come he did not answer him? He even asked again...
Low in altitude, which made it difficult to spot (radar) the helicopter.
When you are in the "soup" in mountainous terrain at low altitude you are busy flying the copter so chatting with ATC is not the first priority - Prelim NTSB report says he was ascending to 2300 ft (one of two standard protocols when you "punch in" ) and at 2400 ft he would have been back in clear air or VFR rules again but pilot started the tightening left hand turn and eventually dive likely disoriented in fog - protocol one is continue forward under power climbing 60 degrees or protocol two is make a 180 degree turn the theory is you will fly back out if the fog you just flew into the pilot may have panicked when he didnt climb out fast enough then he tried the 180 turn but in fog it's like duct taping your eyes shut
@@autolode4215 good explanation.thanks.
I was sayin the same thing im wondering if he was having a heart attack or something,. even checked his health condition.
Right fishy
Great video as always, and wayy more informative than the media. RIP Kobe Bryant
I remember I was getting my sweater that morning because I was going to breakfast with my grandpa (who has always looked up to kobe and has always been inspired by him even tho my grandpa was older” and as I was about to walk out the door I checked my phone for some reason and saw the news. I couldn’t even believe. I thought it was fake and i just couldn’t walk out the door and tell my grandpa the news . It was so unreal. I felt like I was dreaming and couldn’t breathe , as if it were a family member who had passed . I remember that exact moment . So heartbreaking
Seems like he got disoriented with the sudden dive. Like he thought he was going up or straight but really going downward.
Over pitched?
But the altimeter or the vertical speed indicator should help right?
Spatial disorientation happens to even experienced pilots. Commercial jets have gone down as well from their pilots becoming disoriented. So sad.
What Amy said. Classic example of not turning back long before things got out of control.
R.I.P. Kobe And Daughter and everyone else on the chopper!! True Laker Fan, watched every single game he played, extremely sad when he retired, but respected his decision.........and now he's gone. RIP MAN!! LOVE YA!!!
Life is so strange. I wonder if the pilot refused to fly because of poor conditions if he'd been let go. And maybe a backup was called in, or they drove and everyone would have made it home alive. Ugh. Life is so fickle. Undoubtedly so sad to see all of those beautiful young lives lost.
Didn't know you would recreate it this fast! Condolences to the affected
R.I.P. KOBE, GIGI, and the 7 others on that helicopter 😭😭😭
Attention hungry 🤦♂️
@@ricktaylor3748 it was untrue.
And ur racist.
Rick Taylor wow your mother must be so proud of that disgusting human being that you are. Get a job you failure. Not only a failure for you life but also a failure for your own values. Imagine saying such a dumb thing with no empathy at all. I’m not even gonna argue about that “beautiful white girl” because you’re obviously a troll. But this is so low. God forbid you losing somebody close to you but you’d go nuts if your mother or girlfriend died and somebody calls them rapist and other names to insult them. Like what are you doing with your life? Are you mad? Do you need a therapist. It wasn’t a funny move and not a funny comment, it’s very low. You’re hating on people YOU DO NOT KNOW including children. Wow. You’re that low?
@@ricktaylor3748 "beautiful white girl"
She was club hopping you know and even had DNA evidence going against her. You know that right? Granted Kobe was still in the wrong for putting himself in this situation but at least consider doing some research of the mess.
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@@JTScott1988 Me, a raciest ????
Even so you didn't put "Kobe Bryant helicopter crash" I alread knew it is the one RIP KOBE💛💜.
If he did. It would be taken down asap
@@D_Cali_Life why would it ?
Watching this is scary.just thinking what their last thoughts were.
Something had to have happened. He just took a nosedive.
Spacial disorientation it seems. Maybe he thought he was going up but was actually going down
He killed them
Right, something had to have happened. He sound so calm, but yet he has stress in this voice. He may have had a heart attack or something. There’s no telling how much stress he was under having to fly Kobe Bryant
ourcorrect opinions Besides your first sentence, I appreciate a good response. I know nothing about flying.
@@Berry12TVoice You're welcome. But to be fair, your first sentence was all too easy to poke fun at: "Something had to have happened." *You reckon?* Anyway, here's a link that we in the aviation community find very accurate, even though the person who made the reconstruction isn't a pilot. It's nonetheless more detailed and refined to the data and shows how the fog/cloud coverage actually looked before the crash: ruclips.net/video/WirfErQb-sg/видео.html
This is so sad to watch I can't imagine how kobe was feeling along with the others when the chopper started descending on a tilt R.I.P Mamba and GiGi and the rest of the fallen God will take over now 😪😪😪
Brickcity Born Nj B-rad they didn’t know
@@WorthNineDigits they had to know,they could feel the helicopter completely change drastic position at a very fast rate!they knew it wasnt right.the chopper is in nose dive position!!!!!
@@nikkiwilliams3393 yes they definitely knew they were in trouble especially when you couldn't see nothing then you come up on mountains that fast and I'm sure the pilot told them to brace themselves 😪😪
They probably did not know.
@@brickcitybornnjb-rad9110 This copter isn't configured in a way the passengers can see in front of them. They would have felt the g forcing from that hard fast bank though and may have sensed something was off though.
We've all experienced Spatial Disorientation one way or the other when we happen to drive into a white out fog for a few seconds or even a minute. The heartrate goes up a bit, the brain gets confused for a quick second on to either pull over (to a shoulder you can't see), slow down (preferably), or stop (deadly). Luckily most of us slow down, or we go through the "milk" pretty quickly. Now imagine that shit thousands of feet up and totally surrounded by white - for minutes!
Heartbreaking...I can't even imagine.
Felix Garcia, that is why IFR aircraft have instruments.
A properly trained pilot knows how common Spatial D is.
And they are taught to not trust what their body might be telling them.
If no discernible horizon is visible, you look at what the artificial horizon on your instrument panel is showing you.
And if your body is telling you that you are banked when this instrument is showing you straight & level, a properly trained pilot knows that the reliable way to confirm that the main instrument is accurate is by crosschecking it with the backup artificial horizon. Those two instruments, taken together, will confirm to the properly trained pilot that your instruments are the correct info, and that your body's sensations are not to be trusted.
And there is another major disconnect between what regular people experience when driving cars versus what happened in this incident. This was not the case of an airplane flying into fog. This was a helicopter. So the pilot did have the option to stop. And stopping during a flight like this is not the fatal option. It is the wisest one. At any moment in that last segment of the flight, this pilot could have made the decision that the conditions were worse than he had originally hoped. He could have stopped his forward motion, and found a place to put it down.
Unlike driving on a foggy freeway, there isn't a trail of aircraft following you who will plow into you if you decide to abort your flight, hover and land somewhere safe. That would have been the smart decision here. An even smarter decision would have been to understand what the preflight weather report was telling you, and cancel the flight. Never take off.
We all make mistakes. Some of those prove to be huge mistakes. And some of those huge mistakes prove to be fatal.
Dealing with fog on a freeway in a car is different from dealing with fog in an airplane. And even more different when dealing with fog in a helicopter.
@@dahawk8574 alwsys thought about that he could've stopped and stand still.
@@dahawk8574 geezuz christ. I'm not even comparing driving and flying. I'm comparing the feeling, the stress. My goodness man.
@@alexbabiuc8826 You can't hover in IMC (instrument conditions) in a helicopter …. it is extremely difficult, as you cannot tell if you are drifting without special instrumentation.
It's sadly ironic that *being* Kobe Bryant, inadvertently and in the end, instead of profiting him...cost him everything!!! R.I.P. 9
Just discovered your channel today. I was hoping to see a recreation of the crash ever since it happened. Already watched a ton of your videos. They’re awesome. Subscribed!
Why was this flight even authorized if the police werent even flying that day
Private pilots can decide it for themselves, is what i learned.
Thomas Anton Geurts well then why did an experienced pilot take off in conditions he knew his company didn’t even legally permit? This is just so weird to me
MrGoHAMtv ruclips.net/video/-ymcG-YKOCM/видео.html here is some very good information
Because we don’t live in a communist country?
A game had to be played, overrides any common sense
This what I don’t get, why or how did the helicopter take that dip or just fell like that? One minute he’s climbing next second he’s in a dive ?
they said there was no engine failure which means there is no stall.
realEmoSedillo exactly I didn’t see or hear anything about engine failure either, an looking at all the flights paths video I don’t even understand he thought process at the end, was following a path what was the climb for
@@kevinsue1778 only God knows what really happened.
realEmoSedillo your so right!!
Kevin Sue you’re
If it were I. as the pilot, I would have said “Sorry everyone, but the weather conditions are to risky to fly. The police and other entities have grounded their craft as well.” If they demand that we fly anyway, I would have called the company and requested another pilot if any, that would fly in those conditions.
I have lost friends, 3 enlisted and 1 officer, 1st Lt. all friends of mine, in a heli crash in 1988, in foggy conditions in Germany. Our Company XO was going to different field sites and evaluating them, while we were on a 30 day field training exercise. I had the first opportunity to go, but past on it because I thought that the conditions were too bad. I am glad that I did or I would not be here today. I still miss them a lot.
Bless all passengers on that helicopter and I hope that they Rest In Peace.
Can you do flight 2193 the plane skidded off the runway at Istanbul's Sabiha Gokcen airport. Love your videos.
JAD 2020 is not a good start XD a lot of plane incidents
blancolirio channel has done good coverage of the Istanbul crash, and it's one of the dumbest I've ever seen. Thirty knot quartering tailwind, rain-slick runway, came in WAY too hot, was two-thirds of the way down the runway when the wheels touched and it was perfectly obvious that there wasn't enough room left to stop and a go-around was needed.
I remember another Pegasus accident which was scarily similar to this one (in Trabzon, Turkey). Doesn't look good for the company.
T B me too that plane was hanging after it went off the runway it would be terrifying if i was on that flight
I literally just came from VASAviation's video of the audio from that. They should've never landed with that much wind.
It’s heartbreaking that those people (including Kobe Bryant), don’t know that they are entering their coffin.
But overall, love your videos TFC :)
Stardust True. Sadly enough that goes for any of us entering an aircraft at any time. My Dad used to call airplanes caskets in the sky. Till this day I don’t care much for flying, although I do when I must. Peace
Flying coffins
@@flexibledreamer7846 yikes
Yeah it’s a safe bet they wouldn’t have gotten on. Wow you are a smart one
Stardust Death is inevitable.
Brilliant video again mate, RIP to all on board. I'm learning so much from this channel. I cant get enough of it, so thanks a lot brother 👍
The video was very informative and might I add, very tastefully produced. I will use it as a teaching tool for my helicopter students.
I really want to know why on earth the helicopter dived like that?. Especially when investigators say it wasn’t an engine problem. This is so sad. Rip to all families on board.
Pilot probably got disoriented.
Was flying with VFR. So person was in a fog cloud not looking at the artificial horizon on his instrument. He was hoping by looking out the window he can make out where his going.
NatsumeMizu
But why would you not just continue flying straight, stop and hover in place, or even suddenly go UP? Why make a sudden dive for no reason?
I mean I get he may have been disoriented but it still doesn’t make sense
@s ofg
Excuse and reason are two very different terms.
@@coyotelong4349
It's different when you're up there. On ground your inner ear will let you know if you're straight. But in the air covered in fog it's difficult sometimes. And I'm just citing other pilots who have commented on this case. They all seem to agree on this point.
The part that makes me feel physically sick is that those people all had time to contemplate what was going on , for 15 seconds, that is a long time in that situation god bless all xx
Time stands still. Trust me.
Jemma Farrar that is sad. If they weren’t in their seatbelts they would have been raised out of their seats and pitched forward or backward depending on the seat you were in. It was probably chaos!
Thankyou for the reply , It really got to me this crash and to know there was likley chaos before death I think is better than just sitting waiting to die, I suppose the chaos would have not allowed them time to think about what was happening, THANKYOU so much I know this isnt about me but you have made me feel a little lighter about all this horribleness xxxx
The passengers probably didn't realize what was happening until a second or so before they hit, if at all. Once you lose sight of the ground in fog it is extremely difficult to tell what angle the helicopter is at. This is a major contributing factor to the crash. The pilot couldn't see the ground and what felt like level flight was actually a steep bank followed by a dive.
My exact thought
8:35 How cool and professional is the Van Nuys lady . What a voice !
Gus M she sounds like a recording and is so pleasant! Mom my sounded like that when on the phone for work. Enchanting voice.
Peppy
Back in the day, the media tried to portray Kobe’s use of a helicopter from his home in oc to practice/games in la was extravagant. His response was along the lines of, “every minute I can spend with my family instead of sitting in traffic is worth every dollar”
When I heard of this crash, it was a punch to the gut knowing the intentions that led to this circumstance e
God speed to all the precious souls that perished in the crash! :-(
Looking at this video I wondered if this pilot have a heart attack. That nose dive was rather quick
was most likely because he flew into clouds and became spaciously disoriented and thought he might have felt pitched up but really was straight and level.
@@ethanbailey1586 probably yes...they didn't know where they were flying. And people tend to oversestime themselves....
@michael hines Hmm good theory if I saw a mountain infront me I'll shit my pants and I'm not joking
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So a trained professional doesn't know the basics...
@@coasteyscoasteys what do you mean by "the basics"
The air traffic controls last communication was telling the pilot he was “to low for flight following” and we don’t hear a response from the pilot. I wonder why the pilot stopped responding?
I think he was too low for radio transmission as well
@@BeefPapa what does that mean
And then he went 180 mph meaning maybe he thought he was going up when he was going down? Spatial disorientation? Maybe we will find out more.
Brian Longenecker that’s what I think too
Exactly. Makes you really think about something else that caused this 🤔
Something major happened during that flight ,most likely we never gonna find what...……..RIP all 9 people on board that day.
I knew the cospiracy folks would show up eventually. And your absolutely correct something major did happen on that flight, the pilot crashed because of spatial disorentation which has killed many pilots who were extremely qualified and experienced but until you actually experience it yourself, you never know how your body is going to react at that timee Pilot error now let all 9 of the deceased RIP!!!
@@sgtairborne2449 Thank you!
This is one of those days where you should have taken a car.
Definitely
Yeah, aviation mistakes take no prisoners, you don’t get a foul shot, it doesn’t get reviewed, you get eliminated.
The choices we make.... Dang!!!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
There aren't any traffic in the place on sundays😭😭
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The crash was 2 weeks ago, that was fast tho
Hell probably update it when more comes out
@@kanamekiyru hope so.
There was one put out the day after. That video has the actual data from the flight. It's on 3 million views.
@@kanamekiyru It is mentioned in the video!!!
I don't think wouldn't have taken 2 hours from Newport to camarillo on a sunday morning but definitely an hour
Damn the attn to detail on this channel is top of the line! Very well put together video. RIP to the souls on board :-/
Thank You for doing this video. My heart goes out to those that were on that flight and to those left behind. This is one of those days that you'll always remember where you were when you learned about this tradegy. May those in the helicopter rest in peace. 😢
So sad, I can't even imagine what their last seconds were like before impact.
May they all RIP 🙏🙏🙏😭
It probably happened so fast they never knew what hit them.
@@jogman262 I think they knew. The witness who took the close up pics of the crash site. Said he could see the bottom of the helicopter before it crashed. Meaning the pilot completely lost control within that left turn. All the occupants inside were probably falling to the side. And had a few seconds to realize that was it.
It was really horrible that's why I will not fly.
Ms Mae ... I agree with you - those last seconds of life had to be heartwrenching; what comes to my mind is that it was a quick death for all ... Kobe’s death certificate showed a blunt trauma to the head ... it was quick & not drawn out. This is something only God has the answers to. RIH to all 9 souls who lose their lives & continued prayers for all the families 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
@@dasheriicarte I never flown in my life ant this is why I looked at recreation footage and the pilot was flying in repeated circles for almost a hour the viability was bad moisture was coming from the pacific there was open land where he could had landed it was the pilot's bad judgement to keep flying, and he was way to low for them to track the chopper's coronation the chopper engine staled which caused it to go into a left bank nosedive when a plane or chopper run out of fuel or the engines cut off the air craft goes into a nosedive at high speed upon impact the aircraft blows up throwing out a huge fireball so you know they died quick and you can imagine the carnage of the victims. May they rest in peace.
RIP to Kobe, his daughter and other passengers. I am so sad. Thank you for making video quite early. I love your channel, The flightChannel. Thank you.
Hey
Thank you for doing a remarkable job and a very (as of the information we currently have) accurate depiction of what happened. It really seems like this is a case of spatial disorientation caused by VFR into IMC, which likely resulted in loss of control of the aircraft.
the fact the he didnt put kobe in the title is the most respectful thing ive seen in a while
My heart. It’s literally breaking as I’m watching this. Much respect to you for not putting the victims names in the title. It shows that this was genuine. Thanks for this. I really wish we could know now what caused the helicopter to dive when the pilot turned. Not knowing is the worst. I pray for all the families who lost loved ones.
Right
According to all the details I've been hearing, I think the chopper was just in too much fog so the pilot didn't realize how close he was to the mountain and was trying to descend out of the fog but by the time he was out, he realized he was too close to the terrain and moving too fast and slammed into the mountain before he could do anything. Just a human error that unfortunately happened to cost the life of a Legend and his innocent fellow loved ones and acquaintances, terribly sad situation tho 😢
@@roaringlionzofficial the chopper did slam into the mountain which is why it was refered to by officials as a 'high energy crash' and the cause of death for all 9 was 'blunt force trauma'
Roaringlionz Productions I don’t believe this is true. The chopper was scattered in pieces, for that to happen the helicopter must of crashed head on to that mountain compared to how it was shown in the video which I think I was wrong
What’s odd - if you can’t see , why fly so fast? It’s not like he had to fly at 180 mph? He could of just crawled along slowly. I don’t get it.
The helicopter didn't have a terrain warning system and another system it was not required to have....a black box ( I think )
All and all if the police were grounded ....HOLY SAKES that's all I'd need not to get on that ride.
However RIP to all and so very sad and still unreal.
wrong, he was trying to climb, became disoriented and ended up in almost a 90 degree bank
11:07 There was a police helipad when he took the left turn and started descending (as opposed to ascending, which the pilot had planned).
There is a belief that the pilot tuned left and instead of climbing, started descending because there was very low visibility and he knew that there was a police helipad in the vicinity where they attempt do a landing.
Flying-Experience If so, then why did he crash?
@@bartmadness830 that I am not sure maybe he had a lot on his plate and got disoriented (but that is pure speculation)
I believe the pad was located before he made the turn in Calabasas - but I suppose that could have been his intent...still confused by his speed though if that was his goal...
Flying-Experience you are correct about the Sheriff's Helo pad being close by the crash site. But if the pilot would have stayed on course (if he could see) following Highway 101 instead of making that left into that canyon, his destination was only 8 minutes away. The pilot had over 8,500 hours flying Sikorsky helicopters & over 1,500 hours in that particular helo. He was by far & away the best helicopter pilot in Orange County, an instructor, instrument rated & Kobe's personal pilot. Nothing but the best for Kobe. However, nobody is perfect except Jesus Christ.
That's just made up. The pilot didn't know what he was doing
Dive starts at 9:45:15 and then they crash at 9:47?? So it was longer than a minute and a half of falling? That's terrifying
Rest in peace the ones you left us. You will be still in our hearts Kobe Bryant, his daughter and 7 others on board. We miss you. Thanks for the report the flight channel 🙏❤😭
I’m having an anxiety attack. My mind can’t bare the sadness. My God I hope they’re all happy and pain free now somewhere.
😭💔🙏🏿
Ofcourse there pain free this didint have to happen i felt like the pilot and kobe knew better
Why would you wanna fly if it gonna be hard to see up there I just don’t understand this
Money.
GaslitWorld f. Melissa B that was Kobe’s personal pilot
we were at snowbird in utah years ago when a medivac heli picked up an injured skier--cloud cover--he came in ok but when taking off he got right into the soup and punched it to get above but took his eyes off the instruments looking for orientation ---big mistake just like n72ex--he sent the heli into the side of the canyon thinking he was going straight up--same thing happened to medivac at salt late international when tower told the heli pilot to hold in the fog--he screwed it into the ground--too many pilots take eyes of instruments when on ifr looking for land orientation--it is very hard to keep the faith,extremely hard..
UH-1 pilot here, just a heads up chief, the operator should have NEVER left the ground that day.
I think many wonder why that copter flew on that fog. Did Kobe pressure the pilot into flying?
GVike every other pilot that flew for kobe even in his playing days said that he never pressured them. Maybe seeing all those people and kobe that wanted to get to the game and being such an important guest then maybe he felt the pressure to get there on time. Its super sad man i admired kobe my whole life
GVike and to know that 8 others went also including his daughter breaks my heart man
I’ve watched a few videos on this crash now that have used the same flight track data and ATC records and have come to the same conclusion. This time around I got the feeling the controller in BUR must have been thinking “special VFR? Not a great idea, man”
Pilot is demon possessed