I mean Chenle used to be a child singer when he was like 7 and he was singing notes higher than my grades, and he trained only like 5 months. But ya know he hit puberty
OMG YEEESSS his improvement is crazy considering he wasnt child singer and got vocal class or sumn just right after he entered SM... And for less than a year
@@saphiraevani3043 SM used to making baritone rapper tho (Chanyeol for example) but finally they get it right to make Jaehyun and Jisung as singer and mostly sing in their comfortable range
I feel like Haechan's vocals have really improved and matured over the last couple years. His voice used to be a little bit strained sometimes, I think because he was kind of trying to have a different tone that didn't really come naturally to him, but it sounds so nice nowadays. He can get up really high, but it always feels supported. And his pitch is so accurate all the time, when he sings live it sounds recorded.
I want to cry because Haechan actually said that himself. Remember how he wanted to forget the whole Firetruck / NCT #127 EP? He said he sounded like a kid. I think it had something to do with his maturity as a whole. His nonstop promotions in 127 and Dream also polished him. His musicality perspective must've also changed over time esp by spending time with the hyungs. I remember his little argument with Doyoung in singing Coming Home. "Is it working on his weakness or highlighting his strengths?" And I'm glad he's working hard on singing. He jokes a lot but he is serious about getting better. I'm happy for him.
renjun just turned 20 this year imagine what his voice could sound like in the next five years - also i just realized if you ever do SuperM, you'll have to analyze Mark's voice for the third time LOL
Chenle was classically trained as a child, and I think that’s why his breathe control and stability is so consistent. However, I’ve found that type of training is oftentimes not very helpful when it comes to singing pop music. What works for classical music does not translate into more contemporary styles, and that might be why he doesn’t seem quite as comfortable as the top two? Idk just a thought. And yes, Haechan is a star. Watching him perform is like watching the future of kpop. I can’t wait to watch him blossom into a fully fledged icon!
Deanne Bramers you are right. Chenle doesn’t sing in typical kpop way but under the influence of Chinese vocal training. Actually I think he does well in singing English songs>Chinese songs>kpop music
I agree. My voice has been more classically trained so i have no problem singing classical music however whenever i’m singing pop songs just for fun it almost feels like i have never learned any technique at all lol. It’s really hard to transfer your classical skills to pop music, honestly i think Chenle has done a pretty good job :)
Yes I agree. l don't know much about singing or dance but I would say he's sort of like Winwin in dance but in singing? Like Winwin is an amazing dancer in Chinese Traditional Dance but his extensive training in the Chinese traditional dance style didn't really help him and even hindered him when he's dancing in the NCT hip-hop style. WayV's dance style does seem to fit him more. So Chenle is sort of like Winwin but in vocals. He's had Chinese Classical vocal training but that training didn't really help him when he's singing pop. Again, I have no training in dance or singing but this is just what I think and what I've seen from videos.
I can agree with this because I learned classical singing for 8 years and when I tried singing pop I started to overthink where I should place it and how and it prevented me from being able to go high. So that might be with Chenle also his voice is still changing now so he he will get a lot more comfotable when his voice actually stops changing. (Sorry fo my bad english since it is not my first language )
I know he's not first, but my favorite is Jisung. I'm just a sucker for his lower tone. I really want to see what he sounds like in the future when he's more comfortable with his voice.
I love when they put low tone as vocalists like Jisung and Jaehyun, since usually they are pushed for rapping, even if Jisung does both, i wouldn't lie that i want him a full time vocalist, his deep voice harmonize well with the high voice of all 3 vocalists.
I reallllly like Haechan in Dream because I feel like he can fully be himself around the younger members and somehow he shines more. In limitless/cherry bomb era he had 4sec of screen time of 2 lines lol... even if he is now more popular and can showcase himself more, he has always be striving with his friends in dream! + I am in LOVE with dream vocal line They balance each other so much I love them :’)
But somehow in debut days I won't considered him as stronger vocalist like Haechan and Chenle tho. His vocal started improve during We Young era I think and it become better and better each comebacks
@@summernight2752 Yeah, Renjun is still meh vocalist in 2016-2017 but imo it's in 2018 where he starting to catching up with Haechan and Chenle for real
My favorite part of haechan’s voice is that it’s really agile, riffs and runs seem so easy for him, id really love to see him do some complex ones. But other than that his tone is one my favorites ever
I feel like Chenle went into 'voice puberty' a little later than most of the other. He and Jisung are about the same age (Chenle's a couple months older) but I think Jisungs voice started changing sooner than Chenle's. And with the others, I feel like they were right around that turning point around the time they debuted, where their voice was still not done changing but had started the process already. Chenle took a little longer and has only had his 'new voice' for a short time I think, like before Boom it wasn't this low yet (correct me if I'm wrong) so I think that same as with Jisung he's still getting used to going from the really high voice he had to the lower one he has now. Only with Chenle it's slightly different because Jisung didn't really sing that much before (a couple lines here and there but nothing really big or impressive) and Chenle did (boy's been doing concerts since he was like 7) so I think Chenle's not used to not being able to use the technique he's been taught and perfected before. As well as that the change is more recent for him and him being right in the middle of the process, it wouldn't surprise me if his voice got even more lower from now on. I didn't mean to write a novel in the comments lol, I don't even know if any of that made sense, but it did to me
i agree, he definitely has a comfort in singing itself but he's had a lot more practice singing in his style as a child compared to now as someone in his late teens. although he does seem to take a lot of breaths in between lines compared to others and i'm not sure how exactly that happened? still possibly related to puberty? but i can't wait to see him and everyone else grow more :)
I like that you pointed that out!! his voice definitely changed so much even since go, which was like early 2018? I hope he gets the chance to explore his lower tones, I think his range goes deeper than haechan/renjun's where they keep giving him lines that reach higher. Then again he's constantly surprising me with the things he can do, like his vocal fry in quiet down, his lines in the up to you collab, his harmonizing with renjun in their school assignment song...I think he has a lot of things he could showcase but not so much opportunity being given to him ;_____; they definitely rely heavily on him to stabilize though, chenle is the backbone of choruses!!!!!
@@glorytowers0562 normally I check pronunciation guides to be safe. But the one time I didn't. Chenle and Renjun sound absolutely nothing like they're spelt. I shall just apologise. that was an oversight on my part.
I'm happy to see someone finally acknowledging Renjun and his vocal improvement/potential! A lot of people just see him as an "understudy" for Haechan(yes I actually saw someone say this lol) when he's pretty proficient as a vocalist, especially at his younger age!!
@@shion.amamiya not older, they're the same age. he's a few months older Haechan is definitely the best Dream vocalist, but Renjun is almost there as well. Taking in mind his huge improvement and potential, he could easily reach Haechan in the future
@@shion.amamiya but sorry u shouldn't comparing like this bcs if i can comparing too, actually haechan tonally fantastic, technically proficient & has a beautiful sounding voice, it’s so unique and nobody has his tone. Haechan's voice is also more stable than renjun's that's why haechan become main vocalist in Dream.
Really interesting that you brought up the change in Jisung's voice. Everyone has noticed it of course and I think his tone is very nice but it was great that you pointed out he still needs to get used to it. Must be scary to have your voice change like that through puberty as a singer.
i really like chenle's voice. imo he's very underappreciated and everyone just uses him as a joke :( china line just released their own produced song for their graduation and i think it showcases their vocals really well!! not sure if you've seen it.
@@youdontneedtoknowmyname4266 SM did give him something that important tho. I will say it is Nct dream signature sounds due to he or Renjun only associated with Dream and they got many lines too. Honestly Nct Dream songs won't sounded like Nct Dream if chinese lines leave dream. Even with ot5 dream, dream still can maintain their signature sounds because of them. Same case how Taeil become signature sounds of Nct 127, like T7S and Boss don't feel like Nct 127 songs because there are no Taeil. I think it is kinda difficult to explain but I hope you understand what I mean
I get what you said about Haechan, when I listened to Nct 127 for the first time I was like “this guy’s voice doesn’t fit that well with the rest” because it sounded quite unique and different to what you usually expect from a Kpop idol but after a while I’ve come to love it so much.
Haechan is seriously so addictive. His voice especially, it's like a drug. I always smile when his part comes in songs. His dance moves too. And his witty and savage personality. Haechan ace. Haechan world domination.
Me too! I stumbled with his fancam during Boom era one month ago and I can tell you I was blown. His voice is like honey. And his dancing is so natural and chill.
Chenle kinda just being done with his puberty, I think, bcuz he lost his dolphin sounded laugh (kinda lost) like last year so there was not enough time to deal with how to sing everything he could sing before. Hopefully he will get enough vocal lessons and will shine with high notes and his vocal even more and not only with his long-waited rap.
Your praise for Renjun makes me so happy ! He tends to go really underappreciated by a lot of people and it upsets me because not only is he my favourite member in NCT, but he’s probably my overall favourite vocalist. He’s such a talented boy and i’m glad you’ve given him the praise he deserves.
That high note on 'Dream Run' is such a Haechan note lol. I feel like Haechan and Renjun are the main components of the Dream "sound", just can't imagine a song without them. Like Taeil and Doyoung do in 127 (ofc every member contributes to it, but I hope you see my point). Have been enjoying your vocal rankings so much, thank you for doing them, I can only imagine how much work it is :D
@@sambradley8297 yay so excited for wayv! for ten (one of the members), i recommend this video (ruclips.net/video/lp6Ufr95w68/видео.html) where ten sings around 7:44-9:45 because it's a really clear clip of him singing. thanks for your reactions!
most of the non-nct fans i know are haechan’s singing style fan. they’re not really a fan of him but they *ABSOLUTELY* love Haechan’s singing and dancing style.
I am also a huge Heachan fan. I too didn't like his voice at first and then one day I was addicted to the sound and listen for it is all NCT's songs where he participates. Just like his voice can be so smooth, his dancing style is the same. He hits all the pops but somehow looks graceful and effortless when he does. All of these guys are still so young. In Korea, everyone is 1 from the time they are born. And everyone gets a year older on New Year's day. So your Korean age is always either one or two years older than your Western age. Suppose, if you were born in 1985, your age in other countries would be 32 but in Korea you are 34 years old. So, Jisung has a birthday coming up and was born in Feb of 2002 so in the West he would be 18 this year. Heachan was born June 6, 2000 so he would be 19/20 this year. Mark is older than Heachan, then Renjun, March 23, 2000, with Jisung as the youngest, then Chenle and the rest. So they are all still very young and SM does keep working on their voices. Beckhyun , born May 6, 1992, with EXO just recently was talking about the singing classes he was still taking as an example. Loved the Analysis. I really enjoy your station.
I am looking forward to if you ever do this group again 5 years in the future when each member has finished going through puberty and has adjusted to their new voices.
Renjun tho. I love his emotional & sensitive vocals😭 and honestly I am always impressed by how fast he improved considering he has no vocal background prior to sm and trained the least(even auditioned as a dancer) but he has proven time and time again that he is a very capable main vocalist. Even when haechan isn't present he carries the lines and notes very well. You wouldn't have noticed that they are missing another main vocal (dont take it as hate. Haechan is the best vocalist in dream) I think SM has really noticed his improvements and potentials and start to giving more spotlight in general and not holding him back in the shadows anymore esp since go era. He's so young and I cant wait for what the future holds for him. Right now he's unstoppable. He's constantly improving and is also a consistent charismatic performer on stage 💚 Huang Renjun appreciation rant over lol
I love Jisung's lower voice and I'm so happy he might end up like Jaehyun as one of the few well developed and well used baritones in Kpop! And Chenle is actually my favorite of the main three, his tone is just so smooth and he has such good control, although I agree that he still has some adjusting to do. Also unrelated by I would really love your ranking of The Boyz, they are a group that has consistently surprised me with the amount of singing talent they have and not many talk about them!:)
Yes!! I also agree with your comment about Jisung and Jaehyun, I think SM knows Jisung has this potential like Jaehyun but because he still in his puberty time, so SM still pushes him softly to take this vocal line more seriously, I think when the time he getting older and his voice already more stable, SM going to push Jisung hardly to become one of Dream's lead vocal. And I think SM is trying to reincarnate Taemin with Jisung, both of them are main dancers who are increasingly becoming all-rounded golden maknae
Chenle's voice used to be super high before the puberty, he was very active in China as a child singer, was one of the most younger singer to perform a solo at Golden hall of Vienna, and released 2 solo albums before joining nct. You should check his covers before nct, just for fun, they're really good. He was a very busy kid lol. Anyway, love your videos and analyses, thanks a lot.
I think I cried a little bit when you said chenle have the deepest tone among the three main vocalists. I knew he surprise us with rap in quiet down with his low note but the fact he's still the babiest in the group 😭
Haechan is very underrated as a vocalist compared to how amazing he really is. Even 127 agrees that he sounds amazing live and exactly like the CD. Jisung, in a few years, is going to be amazing if he keeps working hard. If you get a chance, search Jisung singing Harry Styles’ Falling. It’s only a couple lines but the color of his voice is really beautiful! Thanks for your review! Love all the SM videos and looking forward to Super Junior!
Actually, Haechan is the most popular vocalist out of dreamies and one of the most popular in Nct as general. Tbh I don't find his voice underrated at all, there are lot of people appreciate it
Haechan's vocal color is just *chef's kiss* to me. I love the uniqueness of it, and he's the most stable vocalist in Dream, for sure. This might be the first time I agree with the ranking 100% :) But I've loved every one of your videos!
I feel like Chenle has a very good understanding of singing, but his voice isn't very flexible yet You're right, it could be because it is still changing and he isn't as used to it yet
Renjuns voice has developed so well over the years and he has the potential to become one of the best vocalists in nct if he keeps it up. Tonewise he's quickly become one of my favourite sm vocalists. Reminds me of Kyungsoos smoothness
Agree. Somehow I see Kyungsoo in him. The height, the visual, the richness in his voice, the flawless fluid dancing, and the talent in acting. And lastly the power to make people hard to approach them at first but make them fall in love deeply without an escape when they got to know them
We had the exact same reaction to Haechan😂I thought that Haechan's voice was kind of annoying when I first got into Nct but now Im obsessed with him (voice, personality, everything)! He is so unique and he sings so effortlessly! He is my bias in Dream and my bias wrecker in 127!
Omg!!! I'm so glad that you looked at NCT Dream, I feel like you went through the same process i (and a lot of nct fans) went through, which is, you hear haechan's voice the first couple of times and it's like, "huh thats different" and then suddenly you're hooked. I totally agree about him being rnb leaning I feel like that was really showed on "love song" on neo zone, and there's something sort of rnb (or maybe just something more smooth and rough at the same time) about "quiet down". I think even if 127 has some of the more "hard hitting" vocalists, dream can feel like the vocal unit because their discography is more vocal based. I think Chenle's stability is legitimately ridiculous, when I watch stages with the mr removed i'm always shocked at how its so consistent, and clear and crisp. I totally get what you are saying about Jeno's voice, I feel like it has qualities i don't really get but know can go somewhere so i'm really curious to see where it goes. Sorry this is so all over the place but I saww the notification and immediatly went "!!!!!" and it did not disappoint at all! I was watching this with a friend and they immediatly commented on your ability to critique and be specific without it feeling like its an egregious problem, and they are so right and the word that popped into my head was "bedside manner". I think you have truly spectacular bedside manner. Thank you!!!!
Oh thank you so much. You're always so kind to me and I really appreciate it. Glad you enjoyed the video. And I really agree with everything you said here!
I think is only me, but I think haechan’s voice will shine even more especially in 127 if he get more lines(like kick it). In any songs of nct, I would always recognised his voice first.
I agree. Somehow even though Dreamies only have 3 vocalists meanwhile 127 have 5 vocalists, I find Haechan's voice is more shine in Nct 127 than Nct Dream. I think it is either because Nct 127's music that more suitable for his vocal or his vocal in Nct Dream are kinda tone down a bit
chenle has to adjust and adapt a bit more to his ‘’new voice’’ but after that .. kinda scared, he’ll be such a tough competitor to ‘’beat’’ for the no. 1 spot. tho i do absolutely also think he’s deserving enough to be there now. also idrk i think chenles range (widest supported range in dream i think) is fantastic from his low notes in quiet down to him belting in renjun and his graduation song hes insanee. i feel like sm still hasnt let chenle show his all yet (his 1st ever high note was in a song renjun&chenle composed themselves, that tells u a lot), so i do understand why he got the spot he got in this video. but tbh for me, consistency is v important, bc yes everyone can sound good in the studio but at the end of the day its the live performance that counts if it makes sense?? (also some of u in the comment section rlly be sleeping on chenle and his abilites its kinda://)
i agree with this statement. i just think sm hasn’t let chenle shine yet. actually it’s kinda sad. we should appreciate him more. he has technique, his stability is no joke! and y’all should not be sleeping on his talent. duh???
I was looking for a comment like this! Chenle seems more and more swept under the rug with his vocal skills. I almost feel like doubting myself for praising him or thinking he is the best vocalist in this unit
Blue honestly it happens to me as well .. seeing their stans praise anyone But chenle for their vocal skills kinda has me like this :| hopefully chenle gains more confidence, sm starts giving him more vocally challenging parts and the fans stop sleeping on him in the nearest future. tbh all i ever really want is the best for him in every way and form ..
Btw, I recently discovered that many of SM singers went through problems with cords during training and later, like Red Velvet's Wendy and Seulgi to the point of losing the voice for some time all together. So nowadays not all of them can use their mix as comfortably as before. I wonder if something like that happened to Chenle, as he has been singing since childhood 🤔
I think with him, his voice changed as he went through puberty. He brought up a good point that everyone is still navigating their new voice. And a lot of those times is was because of the way the idol had been singing before SM, if you look at them now they tend to have a healthier technique, like Wendy for example
I think Wendy overused her voice when she trained, same goes with Seulgi. To Wendy, good technique comes naturally so her trainer helped developed her currently brilliant head voice, which really helped her be powerful, but more easily
he's been singing for the longest time and apparently he was about to quit singing all together, it may have been because he damaged his chords or because he lost his interest in it
Since they’re still young, it’s obvious they’re improving & dreamies growth is really amazing, personally my favourite vocalists in dream is Chenle & Renjun. Their voices are rlly amazing and it’s really nice to hear when they harmonise. (+)In their new album there is also parts where jisung’s vocals caught me off guard. I’m really excited to see dreamies showcase more of their vocals in the future. Thank you for the video!!
I feel like Renjun has the most potential vocally with the right amount of training. Haechen's voice stood out to me the first time I heard one of NCT's song. I love his vocal tone. Chenle's voice is really pretty and pleasant. I really liked your thoughts on Jisung's vocals too.
He is 16 at that maybe puberty stage. He himself said he hates his voice in firetruck. But for me... it is unique... I like it though... Catchy maybe...
Rin D oh wow I never knew he said he didn’t like it either. I think maybe it was the lines he had because after that song I fell in love with his voice. So unique!
@@jillianw674 it was from an inteview from 127... Forgot what it is... But I remember he said... He doesn't like his voice in firetruck he describe it as childish voice... But for me, i like it still... The uniqueness and innocence f his voice.
@@rind6632 he said in his vlive that during the recording of fire truck album and chewing gum instead of singing with his own style, he follow the demo that was given.. that's why he regret it..
I am sooooo impressed with Renjun's vocal growth. He auditioned as a dancer and he was just a lead vocal for Dream, back when Dream had ChenHyuck as the main. He got lesser lines among the three during their rookie days. But then Renjun vastly improved. It's noticeable from 2018 Go to We Go Up. The way he's getting more and more lines, especially on the parts where vocals need to shine, shows how much their producers are now trusting Renjun with his vocal capability. His No. 1 cover and Fireflies are the best songs that showcase just that. And you know what's nicer? He's still freaking TWENTY!! He'll develop and improve for sure!!!!!!
haechan has the most unique voice in kpop and i love it how different and brilliant he is. my ultimate bias is renjun and i am happy that he is now one of the main vocals
My favorite vocalist in NCT Dream is Renjun. I do see that Haechan has better vocal techniques. But whenever I hear Renjun sing, his voice touches my heart. Like there's something pure and sentimental in there.
i remember when jisung said (if i remember correctly) he wanted to prove that you can be a singer without singing high notes and that he really wanted to sing for a long time now. i’m really glad he got the opportunity to do it 🥺 really an all around idol now who can sing, rap, and dance ❤️
I really love Haechan's voice, and i feel that he's one of the singers in nct that has improved the most! Also, i know you have a lot of gg in queue and you're busy but, i wanted to request Loona for whenever you can, they have a lot of strong vocalist 7 or 8/12 and very different vocal colors, and since they have a wide discography you can see how each one of them manages diffents keys or genres.
Really just clicked this video because I love hearing people talk about how stable Chenle's voice is... would definitely like to see him test his limits. Renjun's voice is amazing, but I agree that Haechan 's voice is stylistically as well as technically outstanding. I also feel like Jisung has a lot of potential to grow.
This was so detailed! Love it! Could you do my next bias group Loona? They all have really big ranges, one of the girls is a professional opera singer. In addition, they do not have “set positions” instead change positions with each comeback.
an excellent analysis as always! i think currently chenle lacks confidence and experience with his deep voice given that it only dropped during boom era, once he gets more accustomed to his voice he will easily be a contender for (if not be) #1 :)
I've loved every single ranking you did so far but this one is definitely one that I anticipated the most! Thank you so much for doing great research and doing your rankings with amazing explanations, unbiased and very fairly!! Definitely looking forward to the next video💚 Edit: I've reached the part about Haechan just now and all I can say is that I fully agree! Not just about his rank in NCT Dream but especially about the uniqueness of his voice. Haechan is without a doubt one of my favourite vocalists ever. Ofc there are people with better techniques, a wider range or just a "better" voice but in my opinion he has one of the uniquest vocal tones💚
omg!! i agree with you! haechans voice is so unique that when he starts a song it makes you want to hear more of that song. and when he sings ballad ugghhh i want to cry.
pineapplesun oh! for me, elevator in their recent 127 album that "lets just keep this simple" line is soo beautiful that when they release that track video i was so excited with the whole song and it did not dissapoint me, elevator is still my favorite side track in neo zone album >•
@@sanara8520 Elevator is a really good song and I love Haechan's voice and curly hair on the video. Another song that highlight his voice is Love song, White night and Sit down too. Honestly Haechan has many highlight parts in Neozone.
pineapplesun hahaha yes. thats why he's always saying that members complimented him a lot for this album and i cant disagree, he really did sooo well for neozone.
this was one of the few rankings where i was on the edge of my seat when you started w the vocal line bc it could have gone in any order lol. i'm renjun biased but haechan's voice is so amazing and unique it makes me happy to see him get his shine. also dreamzen culture is getting a rush of endorphins and smiling as soon as jaemin came on the screen even tho you were ranking him last haha. i saw you said you would do WayV and I can't wait and thank you for this one :)
I've always loved Chenle's voice since the beginning, he deserves more. I hate it sometimes that people always made him underrated. I appreciate that he always had quite much lines in every songs, although it's unnoticeable to some people somehow. Anyway, his voice never fails to makes me and his other admirers to love him even more. P.S. Sometimes I feel uncomfortable whenever people mentioned him it's always been money-related. He was already a singer since his childhood and yet the most common thing that lingers on people's thoughts about him were just money.
was waiting for this one; I think that nct dream’s vocal line is very good and reliable considering their age, all of the members have so much room to grow and I’m sure they will showcase it in the next few years !
Jisung has definitely improved the most (except Renjun) He's easily the best sub-vocalist in the group I do think that he could reach Chenle's current level
@@lizquirarte5501 ? Ik that But that doesn't mean he can't get as good. His voice has a lot of potential. With Chenle, his basics are solid and he's naturally good at singing, but he seems to be afraid of expanding the capacity of his voice. I'm sure with time he will and then he'll have rapid growth as a vocalist. I was just talking about his current level.
And again you're doing a incredible work, sooo thanks!! I agree with you, when I first hear Heachan's voice, i thought it was strange (i didn't like it), but now i think it's so amazing and unique. And i really like when Renjun and Heachan sing together
If it is 2017, I would agree with you. But now I think he is more shine in 127 than in dream. His vocals are highlighted the most in ballad song with powerful vocals such as Make Your Day, No Longer, and Coming Home. Dreamies don't have any song that close to it and overall in Neo Zone album his vocals are more explored than any of dreamies album
I wanna thank you for the insight. I was watching this in suspense waiting for those final three because i'm constantly back and forth. Haechan's voice has always been my number one because i'm always in awe of the uniqueness and the seemingly effortless ability, I literally never shut up about his voice online and it's one of my favourites to study. Renjun's voice really grew on me during my time as a fan but like you said its the ideal idol voice so i kind of forget how special it really is at times. Chenle's voice has grown so much since debut, if you find clips of him singing literally a year (If that) before he got signed his voice still hasn't dropped now he's got the deepest range of the main vocalists it hadn't really dawned on me how much his voice has changed until this latest comeback. I truly love how he's kept his stability to the point of where I (and many other fans) barely noticed that it was changing on him. He reminds of a classical vocalist in ways and i'd pay to see him try his hand at that style of singing. Haechan and Chenle are my go tos when i wanna have fun watching vocals and i wish there was more analysis like this out there. side note I'm so excited to see where Jisung ends up in few years, he says he's been working hard on his voice and you can tell he's trying. I laughed when you showed how he does his vocal placement because Chenle teases him for that exact thing.
I'm so excited to see your ranking of Super Junior, I'm curious to where you will place the three main vocalists. I would also be interested in hearing which group has the better main vocal line/main vocalists between Suju and EXO. They both have 3 main vocals.
Sm seems to have a habit of having 3 main vocals haha Super Junior (Yesung, ryo, kyu) Exo (Baekhyun, Chen, DO) Nct 127 (Taeil, Doyoung, Jaehyun) yes he is a main vocal acording to melon, inkigayo sbs and a korean magazine Nct Dream (Chenle, Haechan, Renjun)
I can't decide between Chenle and Renjun♥️♥️, but Chenle has to be one of the most stable idols ever!.😧 Haechan's voice is amaziiiiinnnggg and uniquee😚
Haechan is that one singer that you can hear eventhough 100 singers sing together
So true 😁😂🤣🤣
yes exactly !!
his voice is so unique. it’s beautiful.
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I mean Chenle used to be a child singer when he was like 7 and he was singing notes higher than my grades, and he trained only like 5 months. But ya know he hit puberty
2 months actually
he trained for two months hahahaha and that training period was already preparing him to debut
@@mimijiya4710 he himself said he joined sm in March 2016 so that's five months before debut
@@amisha1928 I think it's 2 months of training and 3 months of preparation for debut
@@rcw6020 oh okay that makes sense
When you realized renjun had no experience in the industry and only had through 10 months of training before debut....
OMG YEEESSS his improvement is crazy considering he wasnt child singer and got vocal class or sumn just right after he entered SM... And for less than a year
Sensing K and auditioned as dancer not vocalist...
That's raw talent for you
Yes but He start from Lead Vocalist and being Main in last year. He improve so much since debut.
i read kpop rumor saying that Renjun is just a normal trainee but thanks to the effort he got a ticket to debut with Dream
It's nice that SM allows Jisung to sing, kpop needs more of those baritones
Sm always put baritone in a group. Chanyeol exo who can sing n rap, jaehyun in nct 127 who can sing and rap. I also love their vocal timbre.
@@saphiraevani3043 SM used to making baritone rapper tho (Chanyeol for example) but finally they get it right to make Jaehyun and Jisung as singer and mostly sing in their comfortable range
@@saphiraevani3043 don't forget siwon who's also a baritone...and rather than chanyeol...i would say...kai since he sings a lot more in their song
renhyuck vocals >>>>>
superior! flashback to their random singing of thinking out loud, be alright, etc.
*Renhyuckle
three words: haechan jeno subunit
haechan: main vocal, main dancer, lead rapper
jeno: main rapper, main dancer, vocalist
i’ll shut up now
I'm sure if we beg sm enough, we could see this sub-unit. Lmao.
Omg yes!!!
that's gonna be the end of me
I am in!!!!!!
they could really sing so many genres and make it work....
I feel like Haechan's vocals have really improved and matured over the last couple years. His voice used to be a little bit strained sometimes, I think because he was kind of trying to have a different tone that didn't really come naturally to him, but it sounds so nice nowadays. He can get up really high, but it always feels supported. And his pitch is so accurate all the time, when he sings live it sounds recorded.
I want to cry because Haechan actually said that himself. Remember how he wanted to forget the whole Firetruck / NCT #127 EP? He said he sounded like a kid. I think it had something to do with his maturity as a whole. His nonstop promotions in 127 and Dream also polished him. His musicality perspective must've also changed over time esp by spending time with the hyungs. I remember his little argument with Doyoung in singing Coming Home. "Is it working on his weakness or highlighting his strengths?" And I'm glad he's working hard on singing. He jokes a lot but he is serious about getting better. I'm happy for him.
"HAECHAN ACE" - MORKLEE
66 HAECHAN ZONE i think haechan is the same level of an all rounder as mark, he’s improved so much
alixa yess, i remember that! if you look back at fire truck and now, his vocals have improved so much!
renjun just turned 20 this year imagine what his voice could sound like in the next five years - also i just realized if you ever do SuperM, you'll have to analyze Mark's voice for the third time LOL
😂😂 ok that was funny haha
Don’t forget NCT U!!!
Yeah and the second time for Baekhyun and Taemin 😂
@@ursulax8594 and taeyong xD
And Kai
Renjun’s growth is amazing when you consider he only trained for a year or two(?) before he debuted and he auditioned as a dancer...
Emily Liu he was a trainee for 10 months!
Even his growth in dancing and performing is too much :')
Agree with your statement
Chenle was classically trained as a child, and I think that’s why his breathe control and stability is so consistent. However, I’ve found that type of training is oftentimes not very helpful when it comes to singing pop music. What works for classical music does not translate into more contemporary styles, and that might be why he doesn’t seem quite as comfortable as the top two? Idk just a thought. And yes, Haechan is a star. Watching him perform is like watching the future of kpop. I can’t wait to watch him blossom into a fully fledged icon!
Deanne Bramers you are right. Chenle doesn’t sing in typical kpop way but under the influence of Chinese vocal training. Actually I think he does well in singing English songs>Chinese songs>kpop music
I agree. My voice has been more classically trained so i have no problem singing classical music however whenever i’m singing pop songs just for fun it almost feels like i have never learned any technique at all lol. It’s really hard to transfer your classical skills to pop music, honestly i think Chenle has done a pretty good job :)
Iris K I’m right there with ya buddy. Regardless of ranking, Chenle has managed to make it work really well for himself!
Yes I agree. l don't know much about singing or dance but I would say he's sort of like Winwin in dance but in singing?
Like Winwin is an amazing dancer in Chinese Traditional Dance but his extensive training in the Chinese traditional dance style didn't really help him and even hindered him when he's dancing in the NCT hip-hop style. WayV's dance style does seem to fit him more.
So Chenle is sort of like Winwin but in vocals. He's had Chinese Classical vocal training but that training didn't really help him when he's singing pop.
Again, I have no training in dance or singing but this is just what I think and what I've seen from videos.
I can agree with this because I learned classical singing for 8 years and when I tried singing pop I started to overthink where I should place it and how and it prevented me from being able to go high. So that might be with Chenle also his voice is still changing now so he he will get a lot more comfotable when his voice actually stops changing. (Sorry fo my bad english since it is not my first language )
I know he's not first, but my favorite is Jisung. I'm just a sucker for his lower tone. I really want to see what he sounds like in the future when he's more comfortable with his voice.
You know that "I like it like that" in 119? That's insane I bet this line got so many girls pregnant
Ursula X and guys ✨😌
@@darthestaaar 🤣🤭yeah right! Haha unexpected fanboy we got here?🤭🤭
Ursula X tehe 🙈
I love when they put low tone as vocalists like Jisung and Jaehyun, since usually they are pushed for rapping, even if Jisung does both, i wouldn't lie that i want him a full time vocalist, his deep voice harmonize well with the high voice of all 3 vocalists.
I reallllly like Haechan in Dream because I feel like he can fully be himself around the younger members and somehow he shines more. In limitless/cherry bomb era he had 4sec of screen time of 2 lines lol... even if he is now more popular and can showcase himself more, he has always be striving with his friends in dream! + I am in LOVE with dream vocal line They balance each other so much I love them :’)
The fact that Renjun used to be "just" a lead vocalist-
So happy people finally appreciate his amazing singing abilities
he's now main vocalist!
@@yougottaseizetheopportunit8296 as he should
But somehow in debut days I won't considered him as stronger vocalist like Haechan and Chenle tho. His vocal started improve during We Young era I think and it become better and better each comebacks
Now he's main vocalist, lead dancer, and visual
@@summernight2752 Yeah, Renjun is still meh vocalist in 2016-2017 but imo it's in 2018 where he starting to catching up with Haechan and Chenle for real
My favorite part of haechan’s voice is that it’s really agile, riffs and runs seem so easy for him, id really love to see him do some complex ones. But other than that his tone is one my favorites ever
I feel like Chenle went into 'voice puberty' a little later than most of the other. He and Jisung are about the same age (Chenle's a couple months older) but I think Jisungs voice started changing sooner than Chenle's.
And with the others, I feel like they were right around that turning point around the time they debuted, where their voice was still not done changing but had started the process already.
Chenle took a little longer and has only had his 'new voice' for a short time I think, like before Boom it wasn't this low yet (correct me if I'm wrong) so I think that same as with Jisung he's still getting used to going from the really high voice he had to the lower one he has now.
Only with Chenle it's slightly different because Jisung didn't really sing that much before (a couple lines here and there but nothing really big or impressive) and Chenle did (boy's been doing concerts since he was like 7) so I think Chenle's not used to not being able to use the technique he's been taught and perfected before. As well as that the change is more recent for him and him being right in the middle of the process, it wouldn't surprise me if his voice got even more lower from now on.
I didn't mean to write a novel in the comments lol, I don't even know if any of that made sense, but it did to me
i agree, he definitely has a comfort in singing itself but he's had a lot more practice singing in his style as a child compared to now as someone in his late teens. although he does seem to take a lot of breaths in between lines compared to others and i'm not sure how exactly that happened? still possibly related to puberty? but i can't wait to see him and everyone else grow more :)
I like that you pointed that out!! his voice definitely changed so much even since go, which was like early 2018? I hope he gets the chance to explore his lower tones, I think his range goes deeper than haechan/renjun's where they keep giving him lines that reach higher. Then again he's constantly surprising me with the things he can do, like his vocal fry in quiet down, his lines in the up to you collab, his harmonizing with renjun in their school assignment song...I think he has a lot of things he could showcase but not so much opportunity being given to him ;_____; they definitely rely heavily on him to stabilize though, chenle is the backbone of choruses!!!!!
Hello does anyone know what song is that at 14:42
@@wabi-sabi5621 it's no.1 by BoA !
@@Zenbaka ahh thank you so much ♡
Puberty hit the dreamies like a truck
Also I’m in love with your extremely white pronunciation of Chenle😂
Hahaha erm whoops. How is it supposed to be pronounced haha?
Samuel Bradley like Chon-luh lol
@@44cat oh.....hahaha my bad.
It’s okay, Mandarin is totally different from English. Most people mess up his name
@@glorytowers0562 normally I check pronunciation guides to be safe. But the one time I didn't. Chenle and Renjun sound absolutely nothing like they're spelt. I shall just apologise. that was an oversight on my part.
Renjun is my favorite vocalist in nct. His tone is so nice
renjun has one of the nicest voices in kpop
ngl
Wow.. I actually pause my nct dream video for this nct dream content..
Same here, people need to stream more😂
omg same
I loved the passion for Haechan, he's a king.
I'm happy to see someone finally acknowledging Renjun and his vocal improvement/potential! A lot of people just see him as an "understudy" for Haechan(yes I actually saw someone say this lol) when he's pretty proficient as a vocalist, especially at his younger age!!
Pretty sure, Renjun is actually older than Haechan? But I agree! Renjun‘s more clear, crisp tone is soo nice~
@@shion.amamiya not older, they're the same age. he's a few months older
Haechan is definitely the best Dream vocalist, but Renjun is almost there as well. Taking in mind his huge improvement and potential, he could easily reach Haechan in the future
When I said younger I meant in comparison to the industry as a whole, not to Haechan!!
@@sadz42 yeah ik xD
@@shion.amamiya but sorry u shouldn't comparing like this bcs if i can comparing too, actually haechan tonally fantastic, technically proficient & has a beautiful sounding voice, it’s so unique and nobody has his tone. Haechan's voice is also more stable than renjun's that's why haechan become main vocalist in Dream.
The passion and enthusiasm while you talk about Haechan’s vocals is so relatable hahaha
At this point the next logical stop of the sm train you’re riding would be doing a ranking of top 10 sm vocalists. How does that sound? 👀
Once the SM train comes to an end with....WayV in the near ish future, that sounds WILD and its happening!
That will intersting
Yes please!!!!! Or maybe rank all of SM's main / lead vocalists
@@sambradley8297 yeah please!!
taisia evdokisia don’t forger F(x) too. Luna was considered best female vocalist in SM. Shame she is so underated. 😢
Haechan's voice in Beautiful Time is the most beautiful voice for me. I cried every damn time hearing it.
Really interesting that you brought up the change in Jisung's voice. Everyone has noticed it of course and I think his tone is very nice but it was great that you pointed out he still needs to get used to it. Must be scary to have your voice change like that through puberty as a singer.
haechan and renjun really are very powerful vocalists!! you had the same exact ranking as me :) . haechan has one of my favorite voices in kpop!!
the way you started talking about haechan so passionately lmaooo i love it
i really like chenle's voice. imo he's very underappreciated and everyone just uses him as a joke :( china line just released their own produced song for their graduation and i think it showcases their vocals really well!! not sure if you've seen it.
what’s the china line song called?
@@chrisconti1456 You can search for it like "Renjun and chenle graduation song" it is the first one to appear
Agree. I think it is Chenle's first belting high notes since Trigger The Fever (?). Renle vocals on that song are so damn amazing
@@summernight2752 i cant believe sm didnt give him anything good for 3 years
@@youdontneedtoknowmyname4266 SM did give him something that important tho. I will say it is Nct dream signature sounds due to he or Renjun only associated with Dream and they got many lines too. Honestly Nct Dream songs won't sounded like Nct Dream if chinese lines leave dream. Even with ot5 dream, dream still can maintain their signature sounds because of them. Same case how Taeil become signature sounds of Nct 127, like T7S and Boss don't feel like Nct 127 songs because there are no Taeil. I think it is kinda difficult to explain but I hope you understand what I mean
I get what you said about Haechan, when I listened to Nct 127 for the first time I was like “this guy’s voice doesn’t fit that well with the rest” because it sounded quite unique and different to what you usually expect from a Kpop idol but after a while I’ve come to love it so much.
Yeah, Heachan's singer role-model is MJ, that explains for a lot))
i agree with all you said about haechan because his voice who makes me into NCT..
Seriously Haechan always makes me happy and stay with nct and nct only
me too, he's not my bias but he's the one who make me interested in nct and started to stan them.
Haechan is seriously so addictive. His voice especially, it's like a drug. I always smile when his part comes in songs. His dance moves too. And his witty and savage personality. Haechan ace. Haechan world domination.
me too. and he's my ult bias rn
Me too! I stumbled with his fancam during Boom era one month ago and I can tell you I was blown. His voice is like honey. And his dancing is so natural and chill.
Chenle kinda just being done with his puberty, I think, bcuz he lost his dolphin sounded laugh (kinda lost) like last year so there was not enough time to deal with how to sing everything he could sing before. Hopefully he will get enough vocal lessons and will shine with high notes and his vocal even more and not only with his long-waited rap.
Your praise for Renjun makes me so happy ! He tends to go really underappreciated by a lot of people and it upsets me because not only is he my favourite member in NCT, but he’s probably my overall favourite vocalist. He’s such a talented boy and i’m glad you’ve given him the praise he deserves.
when i hear haechan praise ❤️🥰🥰🥰❤️🥰🥰😍❤️🥰🥰❤️❤️🥰🥰😍😍🥰🥰❤️😍🥰😍❤️😍🥰🥰😍😍
i cried
That high note on 'Dream Run' is such a Haechan note lol. I feel like Haechan and Renjun are the main components of the Dream "sound", just can't imagine a song without them. Like Taeil and Doyoung do in 127 (ofc every member contributes to it, but I hope you see my point).
Have been enjoying your vocal rankings so much, thank you for doing them, I can only imagine how much work it is :D
can i request wayv. they're chinese sub unit of nct
Of course I'll do them. I may as well complete the set haha
@@sambradley8297 yeah, absolutely, you are so gonna enjoy Xiaojun's voice
@@sambradley8297 omg yes
Samuel Bradley AA im so hype for it theyre one of my fav grps !!!
@@sambradley8297 yay so excited for wayv! for ten (one of the members), i recommend this video (ruclips.net/video/lp6Ufr95w68/видео.html) where ten sings around 7:44-9:45 because it's a really clear clip of him singing. thanks for your reactions!
most of the non-nct fans i know are haechan’s singing style fan. they’re not really a fan of him but they *ABSOLUTELY* love Haechan’s singing and dancing style.
I am also a huge Heachan fan. I too didn't like his voice at first and then one day I was addicted to the sound and listen for it is all NCT's songs where he participates. Just like his voice can be so smooth, his dancing style is the same. He hits all the pops but somehow looks graceful and effortless when he does. All of these guys are still so young. In Korea, everyone is 1 from the time they are born. And everyone gets a year older on New Year's day. So your Korean age is always either one or two years older than your Western age. Suppose, if you were born in 1985, your age in other countries would be 32 but in Korea you are 34 years old. So, Jisung has a birthday coming up and was born in Feb of 2002 so in the West he would be 18 this year. Heachan was born June 6, 2000 so he would be 19/20 this year. Mark is older than Heachan, then Renjun, March 23, 2000, with Jisung as the youngest, then Chenle and the rest. So they are all still very young and SM does keep working on their voices. Beckhyun , born May 6, 1992, with EXO just recently was talking about the singing classes he was still taking as an example. Loved the Analysis. I really enjoy your station.
I agree... i adore his dance... and his voice is unique... 🥰🥰😍😍😘😘
Haechan and Woosung(The Rose) are my two favorite vocalists because of their unique tones.
I am looking forward to if you ever do this group again 5 years in the future when each member has finished going through puberty and has adjusted to their new voices.
Nice thought
Me too! They have so much potential to be great
But their 7th year will be 2023
Renjun tho. I love his emotional & sensitive vocals😭 and honestly I am always impressed by how fast he improved considering he has no vocal background prior to sm and trained the least(even auditioned as a dancer) but he has proven time and time again that he is a very capable main vocalist. Even when haechan isn't present he carries the lines and notes very well. You wouldn't have noticed that they are missing another main vocal (dont take it as hate. Haechan is the best vocalist in dream)
I think SM has really noticed his improvements and potentials and start to giving more spotlight in general and not holding him back in the shadows anymore esp since go era. He's so young and I cant wait for what the future holds for him. Right now he's unstoppable. He's constantly improving and is also a consistent charismatic performer on stage 💚
Huang Renjun appreciation rant over lol
Haechan's voice is brilliant wow
I love Jisung's lower voice and I'm so happy he might end up like Jaehyun as one of the few well developed and well used baritones in Kpop! And Chenle is actually my favorite of the main three, his tone is just so smooth and he has such good control, although I agree that he still has some adjusting to do. Also unrelated by I would really love your ranking of The Boyz, they are a group that has consistently surprised me with the amount of singing talent they have and not many talk about them!:)
Yes!! I also agree with your comment about Jisung and Jaehyun, I think SM knows Jisung has this potential like Jaehyun but because he still in his puberty time, so SM still pushes him softly to take this vocal line more seriously, I think when the time he getting older and his voice already more stable, SM going to push Jisung hardly to become one of Dream's lead vocal. And I think SM is trying to reincarnate Taemin with Jisung, both of them are main dancers who are increasingly becoming all-rounded golden maknae
Chenle's voice used to be super high before the puberty, he was very active in China as a child singer, was one of the most younger singer to perform a solo at Golden hall of Vienna, and released 2 solo albums before joining nct. You should check his covers before nct, just for fun, they're really good. He was a very busy kid lol. Anyway, love your videos and analyses, thanks a lot.
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I can relate so much to your view of Haechan, he is a beast!
I hope Jeno will have more opportunities to develop his voice, for now it seems like he loves music, but is afraid to sing himself😢
I think I cried a little bit when you said chenle have the deepest tone among the three main vocalists. I knew he surprise us with rap in quiet down with his low note but the fact he's still the babiest in the group 😭
Haechan is very underrated as a vocalist compared to how amazing he really is. Even 127 agrees that he sounds amazing live and exactly like the CD. Jisung, in a few years, is going to be amazing if he keeps working hard. If you get a chance, search Jisung singing Harry Styles’ Falling. It’s only a couple lines but the color of his voice is really beautiful! Thanks for your review! Love all the SM videos and looking forward to Super Junior!
Actually, Haechan is the most popular vocalist out of dreamies and one of the most popular in Nct as general. Tbh I don't find his voice underrated at all, there are lot of people appreciate it
@@summernight2752 but i agree, haechan still doesnt have the appreciation he deserves yet.
@@aerissunflower2445 Most of Nct vocalists still not getting recognition in general tho 😞
@@summernight2752 yes but i'm talking bout hyuck
Agree I’m just so confused that there is still so many people doubting him as a main vocalist.
Haechan's vocal color is just *chef's kiss* to me. I love the uniqueness of it, and he's the most stable vocalist in Dream, for sure. This might be the first time I agree with the ranking 100% :) But I've loved every one of your videos!
I feel like Chenle has a very good understanding of singing, but his voice isn't very flexible yet
You're right, it could be because it is still changing and he isn't as used to it yet
IVE BEEN ANTICIPATING THIS VIDEO FOR SO LONG AND WONDER HOW THE MAIN VOCALISTS WILL BE RANKED TYSM ✨❤️
Renjuns voice has developed so well over the years and he has the potential to become one of the best vocalists in nct if he keeps it up. Tonewise he's quickly become one of my favourite sm vocalists. Reminds me of Kyungsoos smoothness
Agree. Somehow I see Kyungsoo in him. The height, the visual, the richness in his voice, the flawless fluid dancing, and the talent in acting. And lastly the power to make people hard to approach them at first but make them fall in love deeply without an escape when they got to know them
Jisung has major lead vocalist potential 🤭🤭
We had the exact same reaction to Haechan😂I thought that Haechan's voice was kind of annoying when I first got into Nct but now Im obsessed with him (voice, personality, everything)! He is so unique and he sings so effortlessly! He is my bias in Dream and my bias wrecker in 127!
chenle has better lower registers than renjun, while renjun has better higher registers than chenle,, both are great in their own way❤️❤️
it's ok to say you're in love with haechan, we all are. i just love the way your face lights up when talking about him
the way he fell in love with haechan... welcome to the club
Renjun's voice is like an angel's feather
I remember when “candlelight” came out and I was SHOCKED at jisungs voice. I love his low singing tone and it really came outta nowhere that comeback
when jaemin sings i feel bad bcus he doesn't even sound natural most of the time i hope he gets some training bcus he does need it unfortunately
Omg!!! I'm so glad that you looked at NCT Dream, I feel like you went through the same process i (and a lot of nct fans) went through, which is, you hear haechan's voice the first couple of times and it's like, "huh thats different" and then suddenly you're hooked. I totally agree about him being rnb leaning I feel like that was really showed on "love song" on neo zone, and there's something sort of rnb (or maybe just something more smooth and rough at the same time) about "quiet down". I think even if 127 has some of the more "hard hitting" vocalists, dream can feel like the vocal unit because their discography is more vocal based. I think Chenle's stability is legitimately ridiculous, when I watch stages with the mr removed i'm always shocked at how its so consistent, and clear and crisp. I totally get what you are saying about Jeno's voice, I feel like it has qualities i don't really get but know can go somewhere so i'm really curious to see where it goes. Sorry this is so all over the place but I saww the notification and immediatly went "!!!!!" and it did not disappoint at all! I was watching this with a friend and they immediatly commented on your ability to critique and be specific without it feeling like its an egregious problem, and they are so right and the word that popped into my head was "bedside manner". I think you have truly spectacular bedside manner. Thank you!!!!
Oh thank you so much. You're always so kind to me and I really appreciate it. Glad you enjoyed the video. And I really agree with everything you said here!
I think is only me, but I think haechan’s voice will shine even more especially in 127 if he get more lines(like kick it). In any songs of nct, I would always recognised his voice first.
I agree. Somehow even though Dreamies only have 3 vocalists meanwhile 127 have 5 vocalists, I find Haechan's voice is more shine in Nct 127 than Nct Dream. I think it is either because Nct 127's music that more suitable for his vocal or his vocal in Nct Dream are kinda tone down a bit
This is a vocal ranking content I've been wanting. a person who knows what he's talking about.
chenle has to adjust and adapt a bit more to his ‘’new voice’’ but after that .. kinda scared, he’ll be such a tough competitor to ‘’beat’’ for the no. 1 spot. tho i do absolutely also think he’s deserving enough to be there now. also idrk i think chenles range (widest supported range in dream i think) is fantastic from his low notes in quiet down to him belting in renjun and his graduation song hes insanee. i feel like sm still hasnt let chenle show his all yet (his 1st ever high note was in a song renjun&chenle composed themselves, that tells u a lot), so i do understand why he got the spot he got in this video. but tbh for me, consistency is v important, bc yes everyone can sound good in the studio but at the end of the day its the live performance that counts if it makes sense?? (also some of u in the comment section rlly be sleeping on chenle and his abilites its kinda://)
i agree with this statement. i just think sm hasn’t let chenle shine yet. actually it’s kinda sad. we should appreciate him more. he has technique, his stability is no joke! and y’all should not be sleeping on his talent. duh???
Maghfira Aulia Devi hopefully he’ll get what he deserves soon 🥺
can we be friends, you are an intellectual
I was looking for a comment like this! Chenle seems more and more swept under the rug with his vocal skills. I almost feel like doubting myself for praising him or thinking he is the best vocalist in this unit
Blue honestly it happens to me as well .. seeing their stans praise anyone But chenle for their vocal skills kinda has me like this :| hopefully chenle gains more confidence, sm starts giving him more vocally challenging parts and the fans stop sleeping on him in the nearest future. tbh all i ever really want is the best for him in every way and form ..
Btw, I recently discovered that many of SM singers went through problems with cords during training and later, like Red Velvet's Wendy and Seulgi to the point of losing the voice for some time all together. So nowadays not all of them can use their mix as comfortably as before. I wonder if something like that happened to Chenle, as he has been singing since childhood 🤔
I think with him, his voice changed as he went through puberty. He brought up a good point that everyone is still navigating their new voice. And a lot of those times is was because of the way the idol had been singing before SM, if you look at them now they tend to have a healthier technique, like Wendy for example
I think Wendy overused her voice when she trained, same goes with Seulgi. To Wendy, good technique comes naturally so her trainer helped developed her currently brilliant head voice, which really helped her be powerful, but more easily
he's been singing for the longest time and apparently he was about to quit singing all together, it may have been because he damaged his chords or because he lost his interest in it
Since they’re still young, it’s obvious they’re improving & dreamies growth is really amazing, personally my favourite vocalists in dream is Chenle & Renjun. Their voices are rlly amazing and it’s really nice to hear when they harmonise. (+)In their new album there is also parts where jisung’s vocals caught me off guard. I’m really excited to see dreamies showcase more of their vocals in the future. Thank you for the video!!
I feel like Renjun has the most potential vocally with the right amount of training. Haechen's voice stood out to me the first time I heard one of NCT's song. I love his vocal tone. Chenle's voice is really pretty and pleasant. I really liked your thoughts on Jisung's vocals too.
When I first heard Haechan in “Firetruck” I absolutely hated his voice. Now his voice is one of my favs in all of NCT!
He is 16 at that maybe puberty stage. He himself said he hates his voice in firetruck. But for me... it is unique... I like it though... Catchy maybe...
Rin D oh wow I never knew he said he didn’t like it either. I think maybe it was the lines he had because after that song I fell in love with his voice. So unique!
@@jillianw674 it was from an inteview from 127... Forgot what it is... But I remember he said... He doesn't like his voice in firetruck he describe it as childish voice... But for me, i like it still... The uniqueness and innocence f his voice.
I think his voice on firetruck is adorable tho. It makes him unique
@@rind6632 he said in his vlive that during the recording of fire truck album and chewing gum instead of singing with his own style, he follow the demo that was given.. that's why he regret it..
My favourite vocalists in nct is renjun
I am sooooo impressed with Renjun's vocal growth. He auditioned as a dancer and he was just a lead vocal for Dream, back when Dream had ChenHyuck as the main. He got lesser lines among the three during their rookie days. But then Renjun vastly improved. It's noticeable from 2018 Go to We Go Up. The way he's getting more and more lines, especially on the parts where vocals need to shine, shows how much their producers are now trusting Renjun with his vocal capability. His No. 1 cover and Fireflies are the best songs that showcase just that. And you know what's nicer? He's still freaking TWENTY!! He'll develop and improve for sure!!!!!!
haechan has the most unique voice in kpop and i love it how different and brilliant he is. my ultimate bias is renjun and i am happy that he is now one of the main vocals
My favorite vocalist in NCT Dream is Renjun. I do see that Haechan has better vocal techniques. But whenever I hear Renjun sing, his voice touches my heart. Like there's something pure and sentimental in there.
i remember when jisung said (if i remember correctly) he wanted to prove that you can be a singer without singing high notes and that he really wanted to sing for a long time now. i’m really glad he got the opportunity to do it 🥺 really an all around idol now who can sing, rap, and dance ❤️
Renjun is my favorite vocalist in NCT Dream❤️
Renjun was a lead vocalist at first but now his voice will make you WOW!
i was literally JUST thinking about how cool it would be if you ranked NCT DREAM and then I clicked on your channel and saw this lol,
I really love Haechan's voice, and i feel that he's one of the singers in nct that has improved the most!
Also, i know you have a lot of gg in queue and you're busy but, i wanted to request Loona for whenever you can, they have a lot of strong vocalist 7 or 8/12 and very different vocal colors, and since they have a wide discography you can see how each one of them manages diffents keys or genres.
Really just clicked this video because I love hearing people talk about how stable Chenle's voice is... would definitely like to see him test his limits. Renjun's voice is amazing, but I agree that Haechan 's voice is stylistically as well as technically outstanding. I also feel like Jisung has a lot of potential to grow.
This was so detailed! Love it! Could you do my next bias group Loona? They all have really big ranges, one of the girls is a professional opera singer. In addition, they do not have “set positions” instead change positions with each comeback.
SuJu will be such a treat. Their vocal line is legendary among legends. Can. not. wait.
Please, do analyze of SuJu vocals.. eventhough we already know how superior KRY's voices..
an excellent analysis as always! i think currently chenle lacks confidence and experience with his deep voice given that it only dropped during boom era, once he gets more accustomed to his voice he will easily be a contender for (if not be) #1 :)
Very possibly yes! I agree
I've loved every single ranking you did so far but this one is definitely one that I anticipated the most! Thank you so much for doing great research and doing your rankings with amazing explanations, unbiased and very fairly!! Definitely looking forward to the next video💚
Edit: I've reached the part about Haechan just now and all I can say is that I fully agree! Not just about his rank in NCT Dream but especially about the uniqueness of his voice. Haechan is without a doubt one of my favourite vocalists ever. Ofc there are people with better techniques, a wider range or just a "better" voice but in my opinion he has one of the uniquest vocal tones💚
omg!! i agree with you! haechans voice is so unique that when he starts a song it makes you want to hear more of that song. and when he sings ballad ugghhh i want to cry.
This is what I feel with their song "Go"
pineapplesun oh! for me, elevator in their recent 127 album that "lets just keep this simple" line is soo beautiful that when they release that track video i was so excited with the whole song and it did not dissapoint me, elevator is still my favorite side track in neo zone album >•
@@sanara8520 Elevator is a really good song and I love Haechan's voice and curly hair on the video. Another song that highlight his voice is Love song, White night and Sit down too. Honestly Haechan has many highlight parts in Neozone.
pineapplesun hahaha yes. thats why he's always saying that members complimented him a lot for this album and i cant disagree, he really did sooo well for neozone.
Your Jisung impersonation is so accurate 😂
this was one of the few rankings where i was on the edge of my seat when you started w the vocal line bc it could have gone in any order lol. i'm renjun biased but haechan's voice is so amazing and unique it makes me happy to see him get his shine. also dreamzen culture is getting a rush of endorphins and smiling as soon as jaemin came on the screen even tho you were ranking him last haha. i saw you said you would do WayV and I can't wait and thank you for this one :)
I've always loved Chenle's voice since the beginning, he deserves more. I hate it sometimes that people always made him underrated. I appreciate that he always had quite much lines in every songs, although it's unnoticeable to some people somehow. Anyway, his voice never fails to makes me and his other admirers to love him even more.
P.S. Sometimes I feel uncomfortable whenever people mentioned him it's always been money-related. He was already a singer since his childhood and yet the most common thing that lingers on people's thoughts about him were just money.
was waiting for this one; I think that nct dream’s vocal line is very good and reliable considering their age, all of the members have so much room to grow and I’m sure they will showcase it in the next few years !
Honestly, Haechan >>>>>>>>
the star quality of this boy, really, is across all boards.
Jisung has definitely improved the most (except Renjun)
He's easily the best sub-vocalist in the group
I do think that he could reach Chenle's current level
yesss I think sometime in the future he would probably be promoted to lead vocalist
Maybe but Jisung is the main dancer and will always focus more on that meanwhile Chenle is the most stable vocal
@@lizquirarte5501 ? Ik that
But that doesn't mean he can't get as good. His voice has a lot of potential.
With Chenle, his basics are solid and he's naturally good at singing, but he seems to be afraid of expanding the capacity of his voice. I'm sure with time he will and then he'll have rapid growth as a vocalist. I was just talking about his current level.
Haechan’s voice is my favorite in kpop. I am really happy to hear all these beautiful words about his vocal and unique tone. Thank you 🙏🏻
And again you're doing a incredible work, sooo thanks!!
I agree with you, when I first hear Heachan's voice, i thought it was strange (i didn't like it), but now i think it's so amazing and unique.
And i really like when Renjun and Heachan sing together
You will realize that NCT Dream chorus is almost lead by Chenle and Renjun if you listen carefully
haechan has improved a lot in his vocals and it makes me so proud
Dream is a vocal-base while 127 is rap-base, and for a Haechan, you’ll know where he shines.
If it is 2017, I would agree with you. But now I think he is more shine in 127 than in dream. His vocals are highlighted the most in ballad song with powerful vocals such as Make Your Day, No Longer, and Coming Home. Dreamies don't have any song that close to it and overall in Neo Zone album his vocals are more explored than any of dreamies album
Black And white
I was referring to their title tracks, not B tracks, since title tracks are used for promotions and gets the most attention.
@@passerby6123 ooh, if it is about title tracks then I agree with you
I wanna thank you for the insight. I was watching this in suspense waiting for those final three because i'm constantly back and forth. Haechan's voice has always been my number one because i'm always in awe of the uniqueness and the seemingly effortless ability, I literally never shut up about his voice online and it's one of my favourites to study. Renjun's voice really grew on me during my time as a fan but like you said its the ideal idol voice so i kind of forget how special it really is at times. Chenle's voice has grown so much since debut, if you find clips of him singing literally a year (If that) before he got signed his voice still hasn't dropped now he's got the deepest range of the main vocalists it hadn't really dawned on me how much his voice has changed until this latest comeback. I truly love how he's kept his stability to the point of where I (and many other fans) barely noticed that it was changing on him. He reminds of a classical vocalist in ways and i'd pay to see him try his hand at that style of singing. Haechan and Chenle are my go tos when i wanna have fun watching vocals and i wish there was more analysis like this out there. side note I'm so excited to see where Jisung ends up in few years, he says he's been working hard on his voice and you can tell he's trying. I laughed when you showed how he does his vocal placement because Chenle teases him for that exact thing.
Renjun and Haechan just competing who'll top the ranking interms of vocals every comeback, they are so interchangeable and very unique
I'm so excited to see your ranking of Super Junior, I'm curious to where you will place the three main vocalists. I would also be interested in hearing which group has the better main vocal line/main vocalists between Suju and EXO. They both have 3 main vocals.
That could easily be a topic of it's own video!
Sm seems to have a habit of having 3 main vocals haha
Super Junior (Yesung, ryo, kyu)
Exo (Baekhyun, Chen, DO)
Nct 127 (Taeil, Doyoung, Jaehyun) yes he is a main vocal acording to melon, inkigayo sbs and a korean magazine
Nct Dream (Chenle, Haechan, Renjun)
@@GalaktischerHirnsauger yes chenle is definitely in Exo
aha it's Chen :)
As an exo-l I think suju is better when it comes to vocal. If anyone come close to suju is EXO only
@@nishu3978 Nah, a few groups come close to EXO and SuJu. BtoB and B1A4 come to mind.
I can't decide between Chenle and Renjun♥️♥️, but Chenle has to be one of the most stable idols ever!.😧 Haechan's voice is amaziiiiinnnggg and uniquee😚
Chenle’s voice is one of the stablest and cleanest in NCT! I hope SM can explore his range more.
yessss the haechan appreciation i love it
thank you for another really great video!!