God, just imagine if they gave Junhoe proper vocal training where he learned to strengthen his technical ability.. he would be INCREDIBLE! I already love his voice so much as it is anyway, his tone is so captivating ♥
the thing about ikon (and winner) is that yg pretty much leaves them in the dust lol. so a lot of their popularity right now is due to their own efforts and im very proud of them.
I forgot how much I like Ikon. Their music is so fun to listen to. I'm waiting for some smart person to hire B.I. to be a producer and songwriter. That kid's got talent...even if he's not the best vocalist. Props to Junhoe for topping the list. His voice has improved a lot! Or rather, his control of his voice has improved a lot!
I feel like the problem with ikon is that YG has always tried to box them in this hiphop/party/yg style music so their vocal training is lacking but there's so much more to them and their music so their vocal styles have been developed more through touring, trial and error and B.I's guidance in the studio than through their training. I always feel like Song's vocals are so underrated, he is officially considered a subvocalist but he could be lead any day. Also I don't know if someone has mentioned it already but B.I actually said in 2018 that he had vocal cord nodules and that he probably had to get surgery
It's always sad to me how some companies just completely fail to give them decent vocal training. I mean considering how long they've trained it's honestly sad to see them having a lot of potential but not really the ability to utilize it... There have been many shows where you see the trainees at YG get vocal training and sadly there's never any helpful advice that they're given. And then they always beat themselves up for not being able to hit the high notes...
I agree so hard!! The trainers just tell them to adjust their tone or pronunciation, but I never see anything about actual technical aspects of singing, especially for YG.
It’s always interesting to see YG groups vocal ranking cause YG really does prefer style over substance and their singers would really be better if yg didn’t focus on making them “unique” so much. I agree with your ranking as always you make good points I’d love to see your ranking for WINNER and BIGBANG both ot5 please 😊🙏
@@adellianaura7910 I don't remember where but that is on one of the community Q and A in here. He said that he doesn't have time to those people like him... so yeah
27:20 "At its best: AWESOME! At its worst: scared the hell out of me." Yes. This. This is exactly it. 😹 Also, your pronunciation of Junhoe (Ju-ne) was really quite good. As always a great ranking and super informative! Keep it up. 😄
June actually went in as a dancer with YGE before they found out he could sing,DK was actually a rapper with JYP,and Song was actually signed as an actor before he decided he wanted to sing-all were in their mid teens. Wonder how much more awesome they could have been if they could have been trained in technique earlier.
@@abc-lt3un Park Bom and Daesung have completely ruined their voices. Rose uses a similar technique to Park Bom, so she can potentially ruin her voice too. June is clearly pulling chest voice when he goes higher and is blasting straight from his throat. YG’s only vocalist who can be considered one of the greatest in kpop is Seungyoon of Winner. However, it looks like YG’s vocal training has drastically improved because Treasure all have pretty healthy techniques and can grow to become a lot better.
June has probably the most unique voice in the whole of kpop and I've been patiently waiting for a solo album ever since WIN era We all know iKON is 7 ♥
I knew the ranking already but it's super nice to have someone who knows explains why. I'm really proud of Song for working so hard to get where he is now I hope he keeps improving as a premier lead vocal 😊
I wa never a huge Ikon fan, in fact, I could only recognize Bobby’s and Junhoe’s voices (yes, not even B.I’s), but watching this I’ve become more interested... Thank you so much for your hard work, your videos are really amazing!!
Eyy can you please do one for Gfriend, I'm really interested in what you think about them sincve they have gotten so much better during their career. They also got quite a bit of acapella stuff and basically all members does some highnotes so it should be easy to find material.
@Pinkii Lights Yea I think the two top ones are right but it all becomes harder with the next three. I have no idea about Yerin, SinB, Umji anymore. I would have put Umji last of those three before but she really has improved a lot the last years. But same goes for the others as well so really don't know.
Pinkii Lights I really can’t between Sinb and yerin. Yerin has more volume and a stronger tone which is probably pleasant for more people to listen to and she’s good at switching between tones and she’s also got great range and is so good overall. But then I feel like although sinb is nasal she has a better understanding of vocal technique ? She’s more consistent for me, but I don’t know they’re both pretty equal for me 😭 but yerin is really improving at a super rapid rate
You should definitely rank ot5 Winner! All 5 of them have very unique vocal colors and even the 2 rappers sing quite a bit. Seungyoon aka Yoon (the leader) is one of the best kpop vocalists (but one of the least talked about by international fans). He won King of Masked Singer 6 times (first and only idol to ever do so) and it would be interesting to see your take on his technique and very unique vocal tone.
Haha I feel really proud right now, I guessed how you would rank iKON in my comment on your Nu'est vid and I'm happy to say I got everything right. Junhoe really annoys me too, I remember one performance where he started amazing, opened up but as the song went along, he went back to his throaty singing for intensity and I was like AHH if only he'd stayed more open! I feel like Yunhyeong/Song has so much potential though, I bet if he trained under SM, he would be like a whole new singer. I actually don't like DK's voice quite often when it's mid-range/high, cos it feels really weak to me like it's on the point of breaking quite often but his falsetto is lovely. Thanks for the vid! Great vid as always. Just wondering, is Block B in your ranking list?
As an iKONIC, I've never seen a proper vocal analysis of iKON (with reasoning) so this video was an exciting find for me. I want to share my perspective as a fan. im not that knowledgeable on how voices work, but I sing sometimes. I also have a major problem with subconsciously trying to copy the members when I sing their songs (especially with Jay and DK) so I somewhat understand their voices. Btw, you pronounced Ju-ne correct. For me, I think I'd put Bobby 7th rather than 6th but this is simply an opinion. I agree with everything you said, and I do think Bobby has more potential than B.I because he has a certain musicality in him but I feel like B.I knows his limits and mostly sticks to what he can do, which I find very important, whereas Bobby has absolutely zero sense of self awareness and just gets by doing whatever he does. It works and it sounds fun but it's also a little unpleasant, especially when he tried to release a whole album full of it (Love & Fall). but there are moments where i totally feel like he could do better and just purposely does this thing as a stylistic choice Chan is a pretty solid 5th and I have no comment. He usually stays in his comfortable range as you said. Songs like #WYD, rubber band and DIVE, are slightly out of his bounds so he usually sings it lightly or skips the note when theyre live My 3rd and 4th correspond to yours, but I'm adding a little bit of my own input because I was surprised that you thought it was difficult to rank. DK is my bias and to me, he was obviously 4th. I feel like he has some problem with his breath that limits his agility (?) and affects his pitch occasionally. He can also be inconsistent so I've occasionally seen him lose control and either go super breathy and shaky or just really push the sound out until it doesn't sound that nice, but this is probably bc he dances really hard. This doesn't really happen with the other three tho so I'd put him 4th. Song was also an obvious 3rd place for me. He had the potential to go higher, but it seems to me that he has less control over his voice than june and jay and relies more on his natural grasp of his voice/raw talent (which is pretty much what happened. He had no prior training but was decent after one year, kinda like those people who just waltz into a karaoke and realize they can sing). He also gets tense bc the notes sometimes stresses his voice out and he usually just tries to go for even more high notes anyway even if he's audibly struggling already while the top 2 would probably find a way to dodge it. He's quite susceptible to voice cracks because of this As for 1st and 2nd, I actually disagree with your ranking. This might be because I know little about vocal technique and I weighed them on other factors. Jay sounds pretty comfortable with all parts of his range and is smarter with his voice. if you listen to Flower (where he pretty much has the same line as June), I feel like his switch over to and back from a falsetto is better controlled than June's (possibly because he chose better places to breathe?). I've also seen more technically challenging aspects from him (see: just go) while June relies on the belting approach to wow everyone (but sometimes he can strain hard). So Jay sounds more mature and polished when he sings. But at the same time, June has way less problems with pitch and is definitely more stable on average. He's also more emotional and musical and even when he makes it work even when his voice isn't in its best condition. So it's truly one of the toughest rankings I know and most fans are confused too. What we do agree on is that YG sucks ass at vocal training and they all would've been better off as vocals elsewhere.
Dk does not only look like GDragon from bigbang but he sounds like him too even though i prefer Gdragon s voice but DK s voice is very beautiful too i really hope you do bigbang one day there's a lot of similarity between ikon and bigbang both in the rap and singing style Probably because both are under yg Really excited for your CLC ranking too
i always like the way you explain everything. It's true iKON is hard to rank and you really do your best 😄 Thanks for including B.I and btw, your pronounciation for June is 100% right 😄 Yay can't wait for next week
omg thank you for saying this, yeah singing isn't always about high notes, just like how dancing isn't about pure flexibility or tricks. an informative analysis as always.
Yeyy!! I waited for this🤧 This was kinda the ranking I already expected haha But Junhoe is one of my favorite vocalists out there and I rly love his power and uniqueness 🥺🥺 Thank you for ranking iKon!
Could do Treasure as well? I know they just debuted but they have one of the most unique and strong vocal line in the 4th generation imo knowing they are from YG..... ( with Yedam, jeongwoo, Junkyu and jihoon) I am interested to know your thoughts about them ) =)
I’ve been binge watching your ranking videos, and I totally agree with this one! I love how you explain you reasons behind the rankings, I feel like I’ve been learning from it too lol I’d love to see you rank ONEUS someday! They debuted last year so it might be a bit early to do it, but I do think some of the members are really talented, and a couple have a lot of potential. They’re from Mamamoo’s company, some of the members participated in Produce 101 so they have content from even before their debut
he did say he would do it someday, in my opinion there is plenty of content for it. i've seen a lot of vocal compilations of oneus. who are your favorite vocalists in oneus? i do agree that there is so much potential in them.
thank you so much for being professional and unbiased as usual! i usually really hate watching rankings like these but man yours are so entertaining and knowledgeable i love u
I don't understand much about vocal technique, so watching your videos (even for groups that I don't follow) is somehow entertaining haha I keep nodding my head even though I don't understand. I wonder if you'd do one for TVXQ because idk they're like the group that marks the start of 2nd gen (does that even correlate). I know they only have two members so maybe you could include the 3 ex-members (or 2 bc does Micky even sing anymore).
I could totally rank them easily 1) Junhoe he is the best in terms of vocal ability. Junhoe also just wanted to be dancer and nothing else which would of been a waste of talent. He not only has a loud voice but has the presence commanding the stage. 2) Jinhwan, for a kid who didn't sing easily he is the absolute best representation of what pushing yourself means. His voice is awesome and carries the most emotion especially with pop songs. 3) Yunhyeong improved insanely, he was one of the worst singers at first so for him to be 3rd.....that proves how much he worked on his vocals. 3) Donghyuk hes the best at lighter sounds, its so easy for him. I used to put Donghyuk 3rd but now Yunhyeong has definitely improved. 4) Chanwoo/Chan Is actually not bad to be honestly but he really doesn't have the confidence to go beyond his comfortable level. I think that if Chanwoo would of started out with Team B from the beginning he wouldn't of made it to the lineup. The thing is that he actually has the potential to grow a lot more. From the start until now he has definitely improved even going towards rap. Bobby is a rapper but i would rate 5th, He does the best in rock songs he does have the potential. If i had to put B.I. in the ranking i would put him last, he is very limiting but he has a peculiar vocal color but I would rather not hear him singing. YG doesn't seem to care much for proper vocal training but rather they want them to find the best place for them so in the long run their stage are always consistent. I remember that they also train them to sound different to other idols outside of YGE, YG cannot stand to have similar voices to other groups which ironically means nothing because their artists get copied. The thing i love about Ikon and Big Bang is that they continuously learn what works for each person and fill each others gaps like second nature.
Watching this 3 years too late 😢 thanks for doing this man I agree with your rank. Song might be my bias (really sweet of you to put him in no 3) but I will be forever in awe of Ju-ne amazing vocals ☺️
Don't stan iKon and Love Scenario is probably the only song I've ever heard from them, but I am still watching the whole 30min Video because his rankings are always amazing.
hi, could you please do a video about ailee and talk about her voice, her strengths and weaknesses she's an AMAZING kpop singer I'm sure you'll love her she's a solo artist and I never found a video talking about her voice and technique in detail, I would love to see a video like that I really enjoy your videos 💕
This is so unexpected. I'm beyond happy (Ikon was my 2nd Kpop group, and so it holds a special place in my heart). Okay, let me watch. I have a feeling that I will be surprised by the rankings.
Haha I agree with your vocal ranking and yes, most people rank them the same. I also tend to favour DK's voice (especially in hug me). Here is to wishing that YG finds proper trainers for their singers (particularly Treasure since most of the members have such amazing instruments).
YG's vocalists have the most unque voices and difficult to copy. Not to mention the main vocals and rappers. Seungri Dara Minzy Jinwoo Jisoo Yunhyeong Donghyuk Chanwoo Asahi Doyoung Junghwan Jaehyuk
Can you do an IZ*ONE vocal ranking??? I'm really anticipating a good ranking coz a lot of the rankings in youtube channels are ranked by "SinGeRS" So i would like you to rank them NE ways very amazing ranking once again!
I really wish you could get to gfriend 😭 they just finished promotions for their recent comeback, everyone is improving at such a rapid rate it’s scary 😂
I just came from watching ONEUS's new mv for Come Back Home and I figured I would put in a vote for you to rank them. They are all amazing and I'd love to hear your opinions, especially for Leedo since he is vocally bipolar :)
I really enjoyed this video! Thank you for this. For someone who have no knowledge on these things, it really made me understand more about iKONs singing style. Keep it up!!
You should review B1A4! I know you enjoyed VIXX’s vocals, so I think you’ll definitely enjoy B1A4 because they have a really strong main vocalist as well!
Love your videos!! it wouldn’t necessarily be a ranking since there’s only one member but I would love to hear your analysis of bol4, I think jiyoung’s voice is very unique and would love to learn more about her technique!
i like your vocal rankings! can you do BIGBANG please? they have been in the industry for more than 10 years so you have a lot of material to go through but they're a joy to listen to hehe 😆 p/s: i suspect that Taeyang took vocal lessons outside of the company around 2014 bc his voice and technique sound like they changed for the better
Hi Sam, really enjoying your content and binge watching my faves of em' all, just wanting to know when are you gonna rank ITZY and IZ*ONE. I can't wait...........
i'm really looking forward of a possible winner ranking!! since i strongly believe that yoon is one of the best vocalists of 3rd gen and i never see him get the recognozition he deserves, he really showcased his talents at the masked singer this year tbh this is a compilation but you can cheek the singular perfromances as well, it will be a blessing i'm tellin you TT ruclips.net/video/nVW8m0IwwyY/видео.html
You once again put out a fantastic video! I've loved every single one of your rankings, you always manage to explain things [that I know hardly anything of] so well that even I can understand 😂😭 I really appreciate you for that! 💕 I'd love if you could make a ranking of SF9 and/or IZ*ONE in the future maybe? Ofc there's no pressure, but since they're one of my ult groups, I'd love to know how you'd rank them! ♡ Stay safe!
can you do a vocal analysis of winner seungyoon please? a vocal ranking of winner would be interesting considering there's only two vocals then two rappers.
@@nadiryoung9925 You can't find it anywhere because both Song and Dk are listed as sub vocalists in every profile. But if you look at all line distributions, it's clear than Dk and Song are the lead vocalists, you can also tell by their line placements in songs
YG really doesn't have the best vocalists technically compared to for example SM, but they all have a unique tone and know how to put feelings into their voices. However, their new upcoming boygroup, Treasure, has been praised to have the some of the best vocalists of the 4th generation even before their debut. I would really appreciate your opinion on their voices in the future when they release some more music, though they also have amazing covers that show their abilities.
YG is actually has the best vocalist in Kpop after SM in my opinion, they are even better than JYP (just my opinion) Do you know Seungyoon Winner???? He won the competition King Of Masked Singer 6 TIMES!!! Also YG has one of the best Kpop vocalists Daesung BigBang
@@adellianaura7910 There are good vocalists in YG, but you can't deny that they are more known for their vocal tones than technique (which is not a bad thing, I prefer a good vocal color and portrayal of emotion over perfect technique any day.) Based on skill overall, I still believe that SM outclasses the people you mentioned. If you compare them to their "counterparts": Shinee's vocal line is definitely more skilled than BB. Exo outclasses Winner (also in tone imo). Nct is stronger vocally than Ikon. Taeyeon is literally the best vocalist out there right now imo, Park Bom is good, but not Taeyeon. And while I prefer Rosé, Jisoo and Jennie generally, I think most people will agree that Wendy, Seulgi and Joy outclass them in terms of range, projection, stability etc. YG vocalists aren't unskilled at all, but their strength is not vocal technique, but rather vocal color and portrayal of emotion, which is often lost in "perfect" singers in my opinion.
@@SuperTwisty99 SM IS THE BEST YOU DON'T HAVE TO MENTION ALL OF THEM!!! BECAUSE I ALREADY KNOW HOW GOOD THEY ARE!!! SERIOUSLY... DID YOU EVEN READ MY COMMENT??? I SAID *"AFTER SM"* OH MY GOD 🤦🤦🤦 ACTUALLY.... THE FACT THAT SEUNGYOON WON THE KING OF MASKED SINGER 6 TIMES IS NOT A JOKE! REMINDING THERE'S A LOT OF AMAZING SINGERS THERE TOO... I THINK IT'S ONLY THE GIRLGROUP IN YG THAT ARE FORCED TO BE "UNIQUE" THE BOYGROUP VOCALS AND ALSO THEIR OTHER ARTISTS LIKE AKMU & SECHKIES ARE NATURALLY STRONG VOCALISTS ACTUALLY YG IS NOT JUST ABOUT "UNIQUE" THEY ARE "UNIQUE" BUT ALSO CAN BE "POWERFUL" But For Blackpink and 2ne1.... I don't know 😅
@@adellianaura7910 you are right I overread the part where you said after SM, my bad. But then I don't see the point of you caps lock screaming at me if we agree. My point still stands, they aren't bad vocalists technically and they have unique voices etc. I don't know what got you to scream at me then but I guess we agree now anyways😅
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The variation in their vocal color is one of the reasons why they’re one of the most interesting groups in kpop.
God, just imagine if they gave Junhoe proper vocal training where he learned to strengthen his technical ability.. he would be INCREDIBLE! I already love his voice so much as it is anyway, his tone is so captivating ♥
Agree!
the thing about ikon (and winner) is that yg pretty much leaves them in the dust lol. so a lot of their popularity right now is due to their own efforts and im very proud of them.
It’s so infuriating how YG keeps screwing then over and failing to protect them. At least we can count on you to do them justice
i love how non biased your videos are. i can't imagine how hard it is to rank ikon
I really hope that YG starts taking into account Junhoe’s and their other singer’s health
your vocal rankings are so accurate and interesting I never get bored, I agree with your ranking once again and thank you for the video 😄
Yunhyeong seriously has a very versatile voice which blends in so well with almost all genres. I really wish YG focused on his vocals more
I forgot how much I like Ikon. Their music is so fun to listen to. I'm waiting for some smart person to hire B.I. to be a producer and songwriter. That kid's got talent...even if he's not the best vocalist. Props to Junhoe for topping the list. His voice has improved a lot! Or rather, his control of his voice has improved a lot!
Damn this list was kinda what I expected, kind of thought it would be completely unpredictable. Great analysis once again!
My mind changes about 50 times hahaha
I feel like the problem with ikon is that YG has always tried to box them in this hiphop/party/yg style music so their vocal training is lacking but there's so much more to them and their music so their vocal styles have been developed more through touring, trial and error and B.I's guidance in the studio than through their training. I always feel like Song's vocals are so underrated, he is officially considered a subvocalist but he could be lead any day. Also I don't know if someone has mentioned it already but B.I actually said in 2018 that he had vocal cord nodules and that he probably had to get surgery
It's always sad to me how some companies just completely fail to give them decent vocal training. I mean considering how long they've trained it's honestly sad to see them having a lot of potential but not really the ability to utilize it... There have been many shows where you see the trainees at YG get vocal training and sadly there's never any helpful advice that they're given. And then they always beat themselves up for not being able to hit the high notes...
I agree so hard!! The trainers just tell them to adjust their tone or pronunciation, but I never see anything about actual technical aspects of singing, especially for YG.
It’s always interesting to see YG groups vocal ranking cause YG really does prefer style over substance and their singers would really be better if yg didn’t focus on making them “unique” so much. I agree with your ranking as always you make good points I’d love to see your ranking for WINNER and BIGBANG both ot5 please 😊🙏
He will just do an OT4 BB.
@@fangirlmode8705 He did OT9 SNSD, and OT7 iKON, sure he would do OT5 BB
@@adellianaura7910 No, he said something about Seungri before... so he will not do an OT5... eventhough everyone wanted it.
@@fangirlmode8705 Really? When? Where?
@@adellianaura7910 I don't remember where but that is on one of the community Q and A in here. He said that he doesn't have time to those people like him... so yeah
I really hope you rank block b one day. Their main vocalist is wonderful, but the rest I’m curious about how you’d order them.
27:20 "At its best: AWESOME!
At its worst: scared the hell out of me."
Yes. This. This is exactly it. 😹
Also, your pronunciation of Junhoe (Ju-ne) was really quite good.
As always a great ranking and super informative! Keep it up. 😄
Oh that's my ranking too! Great reaction i'm not into kpop but i really like iKON songs and their voices is unique just like rainbow with 7 colors.
Rainbow of seven colours is such a beautiful analogy :)
June actually went in as a dancer with YGE before they found out he could sing,DK was actually a rapper with JYP,and Song was actually signed as an actor before he decided he wanted to sing-all were in their mid teens. Wonder how much more awesome they could have been if they could have been trained in technique earlier.
YG is known to have pretty bad vocal training
@@melatonin12 any proof?
@@abc-lt3un Park Bom and Daesung have completely ruined their voices. Rose uses a similar technique to Park Bom, so she can potentially ruin her voice too. June is clearly pulling chest voice when he goes higher and is blasting straight from his throat.
YG’s only vocalist who can be considered one of the greatest in kpop is Seungyoon of Winner. However, it looks like YG’s vocal training has drastically improved because Treasure all have pretty healthy techniques and can grow to become a lot better.
@@melatonin12 well......it's you're opinion...yg best
@@taekookie5025 it really isn’t
June has probably the most unique voice in the whole of kpop and I've been patiently waiting for a solo album ever since WIN era
We all know iKON is 7 ♥
I knew the ranking already but it's super nice to have someone who knows explains why. I'm really proud of Song for working so hard to get where he is now I hope he keeps improving as a premier lead vocal 😊
I wa never a huge Ikon fan, in fact, I could only recognize Bobby’s and Junhoe’s voices (yes, not even B.I’s), but watching this I’ve become more interested...
Thank you so much for your hard work, your videos are really amazing!!
You seriously HAVE TO KNOW more about iKON
Eyy can you please do one for Gfriend, I'm really interested in what you think about them sincve they have gotten so much better during their career. They also got quite a bit of acapella stuff and basically all members does some highnotes so it should be easy to find material.
@Pinkii Lights Yea I think the two top ones are right but it all becomes harder with the next three. I have no idea about Yerin, SinB, Umji anymore. I would have put Umji last of those three before but she really has improved a lot the last years. But same goes for the others as well so really don't know.
Pinkii Lights I really can’t between Sinb and yerin. Yerin has more volume and a stronger tone which is probably pleasant for more people to listen to and she’s good at switching between tones and she’s also got great range and is so good overall. But then I feel like although sinb is nasal she has a better understanding of vocal technique ? She’s more consistent for me, but I don’t know they’re both pretty equal for me 😭 but yerin is really improving at a super rapid rate
I thought I'm the only one that want him to review gfriend lol
@Pinkii Lights its Yuju > Eunha = SinB > the rest
right?
You should definitely rank ot5 Winner! All 5 of them have very unique vocal colors and even the 2 rappers sing quite a bit. Seungyoon aka Yoon (the leader) is one of the best kpop vocalists (but one of the least talked about by international fans). He won King of Masked Singer 6 times (first and only idol to ever do so) and it would be interesting to see your take on his technique and very unique vocal tone.
Haha I feel really proud right now, I guessed how you would rank iKON in my comment on your Nu'est vid and I'm happy to say I got everything right.
Junhoe really annoys me too, I remember one performance where he started amazing, opened up but as the song went along, he went back to his throaty singing for intensity and I was like AHH if only he'd stayed more open!
I feel like Yunhyeong/Song has so much potential though, I bet if he trained under SM, he would be like a whole new singer.
I actually don't like DK's voice quite often when it's mid-range/high, cos it feels really weak to me like it's on the point of breaking quite often but his falsetto is lovely.
Thanks for the vid! Great vid as always.
Just wondering, is Block B in your ranking list?
Thank you 😊😊 I always love your comments when they add some meat to things. Block B can certainly be added!
As an iKONIC, I've never seen a proper vocal analysis of iKON (with reasoning) so this video was an exciting find for me. I want to share my perspective as a fan. im not that knowledgeable on how voices work, but I sing sometimes. I also have a major problem with subconsciously trying to copy the members when I sing their songs (especially with Jay and DK) so I somewhat understand their voices. Btw, you pronounced Ju-ne correct.
For me, I think I'd put Bobby 7th rather than 6th but this is simply an opinion. I agree with everything you said, and I do think Bobby has more potential than B.I because he has a certain musicality in him but I feel like B.I knows his limits and mostly sticks to what he can do, which I find very important, whereas Bobby has absolutely zero sense of self awareness and just gets by doing whatever he does. It works and it sounds fun but it's also a little unpleasant, especially when he tried to release a whole album full of it (Love & Fall). but there are moments where i totally feel like he could do better and just purposely does this thing as a stylistic choice
Chan is a pretty solid 5th and I have no comment. He usually stays in his comfortable range as you said. Songs like #WYD, rubber band and DIVE, are slightly out of his bounds so he usually sings it lightly or skips the note when theyre live
My 3rd and 4th correspond to yours, but I'm adding a little bit of my own input because I was surprised that you thought it was difficult to rank. DK is my bias and to me, he was obviously 4th. I feel like he has some problem with his breath that limits his agility (?) and affects his pitch occasionally. He can also be inconsistent so I've occasionally seen him lose control and either go super breathy and shaky or just really push the sound out until it doesn't sound that nice, but this is probably bc he dances really hard. This doesn't really happen with the other three tho so I'd put him 4th.
Song was also an obvious 3rd place for me. He had the potential to go higher, but it seems to me that he has less control over his voice than june and jay and relies more on his natural grasp of his voice/raw talent (which is pretty much what happened. He had no prior training but was decent after one year, kinda like those people who just waltz into a karaoke and realize they can sing). He also gets tense bc the notes sometimes stresses his voice out and he usually just tries to go for even more high notes anyway even if he's audibly struggling already while the top 2 would probably find a way to dodge it. He's quite susceptible to voice cracks because of this
As for 1st and 2nd, I actually disagree with your ranking. This might be because I know little about vocal technique and I weighed them on other factors. Jay sounds pretty comfortable with all parts of his range and is smarter with his voice. if you listen to Flower (where he pretty much has the same line as June), I feel like his switch over to and back from a falsetto is better controlled than June's (possibly because he chose better places to breathe?). I've also seen more technically challenging aspects from him (see: just go) while June relies on the belting approach to wow everyone (but sometimes he can strain hard). So Jay sounds more mature and polished when he sings. But at the same time, June has way less problems with pitch and is definitely more stable on average. He's also more emotional and musical and even when he makes it work even when his voice isn't in its best condition. So it's truly one of the toughest rankings I know and most fans are confused too. What we do agree on is that YG sucks ass at vocal training and they all would've been better off as vocals elsewhere.
TO BE HONEST
7 - 3 Rank are just PREDICTABLE!
The only interesting thing is between
Jay & June
For me song as well
Dk does not only look like GDragon from bigbang but he sounds like him too even though i prefer Gdragon s voice but DK s voice is very beautiful too i really hope you do bigbang one day there's a lot of similarity between ikon and bigbang both in the rap and singing style
Probably because both are under yg
Really excited for your CLC ranking too
i always like the way you explain everything. It's true iKON is hard to rank and you really do your best 😄 Thanks for including B.I
and btw, your pronounciation for June is 100% right 😄
Yay can't wait for next week
9:35 Chanwoo
13:33 Donghyuk
17:57 Yunhyeong
22:34 Jinhwan
27:04 Junhoe
omg thank you for saying this, yeah singing isn't always about high notes, just like how dancing isn't about pure flexibility or tricks. an informative analysis as always.
Yeyy!! I waited for this🤧
This was kinda the ranking I already expected haha
But Junhoe is one of my favorite vocalists out there and I rly love his power and uniqueness 🥺🥺
Thank you for ranking iKon!
Could do Treasure as well? I know they just debuted but they have one of the most unique and strong vocal line in the 4th generation imo knowing they are from YG..... ( with Yedam, jeongwoo, Junkyu and jihoon) I am interested to know your thoughts about them ) =)
I’ve been binge watching your ranking videos, and I totally agree with this one! I love how you explain you reasons behind the rankings, I feel like I’ve been learning from it too lol
I’d love to see you rank ONEUS someday! They debuted last year so it might be a bit early to do it, but I do think some of the members are really talented, and a couple have a lot of potential. They’re from Mamamoo’s company, some of the members participated in Produce 101 so they have content from even before their debut
he did say he would do it someday, in my opinion there is plenty of content for it. i've seen a lot of vocal compilations of oneus. who are your favorite vocalists in oneus? i do agree that there is so much potential in them.
thank you for doing this ranking! i appreciate ikon’s vocals so much. may you consider doing loona soon?
And I love Junhoe’s and Bobby’s rock voices
Bobby would be a good rock singer in my opinion because of his voice
thank you so much for being professional and unbiased as usual! i usually really hate watching rankings like these but man yours are so entertaining and knowledgeable i love u
I knew June would be number one, I was here to find out about everybody else. XD Nice job as usual!
I don't understand much about vocal technique, so watching your videos (even for groups that I don't follow) is somehow entertaining haha I keep nodding my head even though I don't understand.
I wonder if you'd do one for TVXQ because idk they're like the group that marks the start of 2nd gen (does that even correlate). I know they only have two members so maybe you could include the 3 ex-members (or 2 bc does Micky even sing anymore).
great video! i’d love to see your rankings of GFriend, Weki Meki, IZ*One, & Loona! they all have amazing vocals for girl groups
I really recommend the other yg groups like Winner, Bigbang and 2ne1 ooh also block b I feel like theirs would be interesting for suree
I could totally rank them easily
1) Junhoe he is the best in terms of vocal ability. Junhoe also just wanted to be dancer and nothing else which would of been a waste of talent. He not only has a loud voice but has the presence commanding the stage.
2) Jinhwan, for a kid who didn't sing easily he is the absolute best representation of what pushing yourself means. His voice is awesome and carries the most emotion especially with pop songs.
3) Yunhyeong improved insanely, he was one of the worst singers at first so for him to be 3rd.....that proves how much he worked on his vocals.
3) Donghyuk hes the best at lighter sounds, its so easy for him. I used to put Donghyuk 3rd but now Yunhyeong has definitely improved.
4) Chanwoo/Chan Is actually not bad to be honestly but he really doesn't have the confidence to go beyond his comfortable level. I think that if Chanwoo would of started out with Team B from the beginning he wouldn't of made it to the lineup. The thing is that he actually has the potential to grow a lot more. From the start until now he has definitely improved even going towards rap.
Bobby is a rapper but i would rate 5th, He does the best in rock songs he does have the potential.
If i had to put B.I. in the ranking i would put him last, he is very limiting but he has a peculiar vocal color but I would rather not hear him singing.
YG doesn't seem to care much for proper vocal training but rather they want them to find the best place for them so in the long run their stage are always consistent. I remember that they also train them to sound different to other idols outside of YGE, YG cannot stand to have similar voices to other groups which ironically means nothing because their artists get copied.
The thing i love about Ikon and Big Bang is that they continuously learn what works for each person and fill each others gaps like second nature.
Watching this 3 years too late 😢 thanks for doing this man I agree with your rank. Song might be my bias (really sweet of you to put him in no 3) but I will be forever in awe of Ju-ne amazing vocals ☺️
Don't stan iKon and Love Scenario is probably the only song I've ever heard from them, but I am still watching the whole 30min Video because his rankings are always amazing.
You should know more about iKON!
OR YOU GONNA MISSED A LOT OF GOOD MUSICS!!!
hi, could you please do a video about ailee and talk about her voice, her strengths and weaknesses she's an AMAZING kpop singer I'm sure you'll love her
she's a solo artist and I never found a video talking about her voice and technique in detail, I would love to see a video like that
I really enjoy your videos 💕
Does ailee even has weaknesses xd
Luv your analysis...I hope you do a Rank on LOONA next. Their Vocal Line are insane
This is so unexpected. I'm beyond happy (Ikon was my 2nd Kpop group, and so it holds a special place in my heart). Okay, let me watch. I have a feeling that I will be surprised by the rankings.
Haha I agree with your vocal ranking and yes, most people rank them the same. I also tend to favour DK's voice (especially in hug me). Here is to wishing that YG finds proper trainers for their singers (particularly Treasure since most of the members have such amazing instruments).
oh you is my fav youtuber professional(sorry for my bad english im brazillian :D)
I would love to see an analysis on knk, they are so underrated. If you would Youjin that would be awesome too! Great analysis as usual.
YG's vocalists have the most unque voices and difficult to copy. Not to mention the main vocals and rappers.
Seungri Dara Minzy Jinwoo Jisoo
Yunhyeong Donghyuk Chanwoo
Asahi Doyoung Junghwan Jaehyuk
Can you do an IZ*ONE vocal ranking???
I'm really anticipating a good ranking coz a lot of the rankings in youtube channels are ranked by "SinGeRS"
So i would like you to rank them
NE ways very amazing ranking once again!
Yay so excited for this😁 you rock Sam!
Just realized we haven't done BIGBANG yet
Taeyang
Daesung
G-Dragon
Seungri
TOP
OMGGG THE WAY HE TALKED ABOUT JUNHOE'S VOCALS BEING HELLA GOOD'S SUCH A MOOD
Looking forward for your vocal ranking of another king of kpop group like TVXQ and big bang 🙏🏻🙏🏻
@Pinkii Lights what about now :v (I'm pretty sure ur opinion has changed 180° lmao)
yes yunhyeong vocal king! Hahahaha
Wow thank you for appreciating iKON's vocals :)
You need to do a vocal ranking of TVXQ when they were all 5.They are said to be one of the best vocal kpop groups in harmonization.
@Pinkii Lights so true
@Pinkii Lights I love their stage presence too. Like Yunho used to be so hyped on stage😂
I really wish you could get to gfriend 😭 they just finished promotions for their recent comeback, everyone is improving at such a rapid rate it’s scary 😂
I shall, don't you worry 😊
There's a fact in this video: PERFECT is a BOP!
Ohh yesss, I was waiting for this one so much!! Thanks for the analysis, was great and informative!
I just came from watching ONEUS's new mv for Come Back Home and I figured I would put in a vote for you to rank them. They are all amazing and I'd love to hear your opinions, especially for Leedo since he is vocally bipolar :)
Bobby is my favourite vocalist (even though he is a rapper) out there. Deep, Raspy and emotional. He sings with his whole heart
I really enjoyed this video! Thank you for this. For someone who have no knowledge on these things, it really made me understand more about iKONs singing style. Keep it up!!
You speak so fast.. I'm so glad with you for made this video, thank you so much!!!
another great video! theyre always rly interesting to listen to :)
You should review B1A4! I know you enjoyed VIXX’s vocals, so I think you’ll definitely enjoy B1A4 because they have a really strong main vocalist as well!
Can you try ranking the group Kard?
omggg, thank you so much, i think i'm already addicted to your videos ❤️
Love your videos!! it wouldn’t necessarily be a ranking since there’s only one member but I would love to hear your analysis of bol4, I think jiyoung’s voice is very unique and would love to learn more about her technique!
Hope one day, there is "TREASURE vocal ranking"
OMG Thank You for including B.I. 😭
i like your vocal rankings! can you do BIGBANG please? they have been in the industry for more than 10 years so you have a lot of material to go through but they're a joy to listen to hehe 😆
p/s: i suspect that Taeyang took vocal lessons outside of the company around 2014 bc his voice and technique sound like they changed for the better
I miss ikon so much 😭😭 their 7 voices are so unique and beautiful and get so good together
Hi Sam, really enjoying your content and binge watching my faves of em' all, just wanting to know when are you gonna rank ITZY and IZ*ONE. I can't wait...........
Can you do BIG BANG as 5 please?
I’ve been waiting for this 😍
I love your rankings I hope you do weeekly one day their a rookie group but their all really good
Can you do a vocal ranking too for yg's new boy group treasure?
i'm really looking forward of a possible winner ranking!! since i strongly believe that yoon is one of the best vocalists of 3rd gen and i never see him get the recognozition he deserves, he really showcased his talents at the masked singer this year tbh
this is a compilation but you can cheek the singular perfromances as well, it will be a blessing i'm tellin you TT
ruclips.net/video/nVW8m0IwwyY/видео.html
Can you do a reaction video to Former SNSD Main Vocalist Jessica high notes?
He did one for SNSD ruclips.net/video/6xATTDfUVPU/видео.html
You once again put out a fantastic video! I've loved every single one of your rankings, you always manage to explain things [that I know hardly anything of] so well that even I can understand 😂😭 I really appreciate you for that! 💕
I'd love if you could make a ranking of SF9 and/or IZ*ONE in the future maybe? Ofc there's no pressure, but since they're one of my ult groups, I'd love to know how you'd rank them! ♡ Stay safe!
can you do a vocal analysis of winner seungyoon please? a vocal ranking of winner would be interesting considering there's only two vocals then two rappers.
Just a little note, Song is the lead vocalist of the group
Him and DK are
Michael E. Last i checked, he was just a vocalist or sub-vocalist
@@nadiryoung9925 Those profiles have both Song and DK as sub-vocalists but it's common knowledge that they're lead vocals
Michael E. Where can i find this? I’ve only ever known Song to be the lead vocalist bcuz he can belt. DK just has a soft voice.
@@nadiryoung9925 You can't find it anywhere because both Song and Dk are listed as sub vocalists in every profile. But if you look at all line distributions, it's clear than Dk and Song are the lead vocalists, you can also tell by their line placements in songs
I wish you gave scorings so we can compare to other groups.
Can you do Oneus next?
Please do Treasure vocal ranking next please! Those are iKON juniors. YG’s new boy group!
came here to say that DK's voice is gold
I recommend that you check out Winner, another YG group. I think that you would find the lead singer interesting.
YG really doesn't have the best vocalists technically compared to for example SM, but they all have a unique tone and know how to put feelings into their voices.
However, their new upcoming boygroup, Treasure, has been praised to have the some of the best vocalists of the 4th generation even before their debut. I would really appreciate your opinion on their voices in the future when they release some more music, though they also have amazing covers that show their abilities.
YG is actually has the best vocalist in Kpop after SM
in my opinion, they are even better than JYP (just my opinion)
Do you know Seungyoon Winner????
He won the competition King Of Masked Singer 6 TIMES!!!
Also YG has one of the best Kpop vocalists Daesung BigBang
YOU MUST BE ONLY KNOW BLACKPINK LOLL
@@adellianaura7910 There are good vocalists in YG, but you can't deny that they are more known for their vocal tones than technique (which is not a bad thing, I prefer a good vocal color and portrayal of emotion over perfect technique any day.) Based on skill overall, I still believe that SM outclasses the people you mentioned. If you compare them to their "counterparts": Shinee's vocal line is definitely more skilled than BB. Exo outclasses Winner (also in tone imo). Nct is stronger vocally than Ikon. Taeyeon is literally the best vocalist out there right now imo, Park Bom is good, but not Taeyeon. And while I prefer Rosé, Jisoo and Jennie generally, I think most people will agree that Wendy, Seulgi and Joy outclass them in terms of range, projection, stability etc. YG vocalists aren't unskilled at all, but their strength is not vocal technique, but rather vocal color and portrayal of emotion, which is often lost in "perfect" singers in my opinion.
@@SuperTwisty99 SM IS THE BEST
YOU DON'T HAVE TO MENTION ALL OF THEM!!! BECAUSE I ALREADY KNOW HOW GOOD THEY ARE!!!
SERIOUSLY... DID YOU EVEN READ MY COMMENT???
I SAID *"AFTER SM"*
OH MY GOD 🤦🤦🤦
ACTUALLY.... THE FACT THAT SEUNGYOON WON THE KING OF MASKED SINGER 6 TIMES IS NOT A JOKE! REMINDING THERE'S A LOT OF AMAZING SINGERS THERE TOO...
I THINK IT'S ONLY THE GIRLGROUP IN YG THAT ARE FORCED TO BE "UNIQUE"
THE BOYGROUP VOCALS AND ALSO THEIR OTHER ARTISTS LIKE AKMU & SECHKIES ARE NATURALLY STRONG VOCALISTS
ACTUALLY YG IS NOT JUST ABOUT "UNIQUE"
THEY ARE "UNIQUE" BUT ALSO CAN BE "POWERFUL"
But For Blackpink and 2ne1.... I don't know 😅
@@adellianaura7910 you are right I overread the part where you said after SM, my bad. But then I don't see the point of you caps lock screaming at me if we agree. My point still stands, they aren't bad vocalists technically and they have unique voices etc. I don't know what got you to scream at me then but I guess we agree now anyways😅
thank u for doing iKON!! I miss u too tho lol. Can u do GFriend next?
To be fair with BI and Bobby, they are rappers. It's good enough they sing in some of their songs.
Hi~~ would u do a ranking for teen top?? It’s their 10th anniversary this year~~ I would reli like to hear your comments on their vocals~~
Great video. Could you do a vocal ranking for Gfriend?
Pls do Sf9 next
Please review Gfriend. They all have super beautiful and unique voices!
Can you also please rank SF9? Thank you.
I would love to see a bigbang ranking please, also is it just me of has the bts ranking video disappeared?
Can you do winner or even just Kang seungyoon masked singer performances
please consider doing treasure (yg's new boy group)
30 minutes? wow, must've been hard to rank them