6.5 PRC and 270 Winchester

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  • Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024

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  • @JesusvonNazaret
    @JesusvonNazaret 2 года назад +19

    Will the videos on youtube continue?

    • @RonSpomerOutdoors
      @RonSpomerOutdoors  2 года назад +8

      Great question! Yes, they will. We will post videos about two times a week on RUclips. But the long cut with more details, charts, and examples will be over on RSO TV. Plus, we will post additional content not available on RUclips (like my newest hand loading video) on RSO TV.

    • @JesusvonNazaret
      @JesusvonNazaret 2 года назад

      @@RonSpomerOutdoors great, so we will get informed by a teaser on youtube that a new video is online on RSO

    • @nobbyclark5093
      @nobbyclark5093 2 года назад

      Ron what is RSO Tv forgive the ignorant question mate 😬👍

    • @RonSpomerOutdoors
      @RonSpomerOutdoors  2 года назад +4

      @@nobbyclark5093 No ignorant questions. Just ignorant answers, Nobby. RSOTV.com is our new platform on which we can post the kinds of guns, shooting, reloading, and hunting videos that get banned on many/most "free" platforms like this one. But RSOTV.com is a "pay to play" platform costing $5 a month. I think and hope subscribers will get their money's worth. We aim to produce at least one video a week.

    • @1HeavyHitr
      @1HeavyHitr 2 года назад +1

      Good! #FKYT!

  • @TAShannon1
    @TAShannon1 2 года назад +15

    I don't understand why I keep watching these types of cartridge videos from Ron Spomer... It's all more of the same when comparing cartridges. Focusing on very small differences between cartridges and elaborating on them. We are totally nerding out on this topic. Hours of my life that I will never get back. Hats off to Ron Spomer for finding a way to keep it interesting. He just articulates things in such an effective way that keeps your interest locked down. I think Captivation is his most valuable talent. Great writer and story teller

  • @gunman-6646
    @gunman-6646 2 года назад +73

    Love my .270! It was my grandpa's, he gave it to me when I was 14 years old. He passed in 1986. I got elk every year with it.

  • @kentgoldings
    @kentgoldings 2 года назад +106

    I was load testing my 6.5 PRC when the old range officer starting asking about the specs of the cartridge. This dude is in his 80’s and has forgotten more about hard loading than I’ll never know. When I’m done breathlessly describing my new toy, he smiles and says, “That’s has nearly the same case capacity and muzzle velocity as my old 6.5-06 wildcat. But, the action is shorter.” That essentially sums up the 6.5 PRC. Same capability, shorter length.

    • @K-bob_45
      @K-bob_45 2 года назад +5

      6.5x284

    • @TexanUSMC8089
      @TexanUSMC8089 2 года назад +9

      6.5-06 has been around since 1913 as the 257 Newton, but was SAAMI spec in the 80's by A-Square and called the 6.5-06. That means it's not a wildcat. Unfortunately A-Square went out of business and no other company make ammo for it... yet. LOL I've had a 6.5-06 for years and it shoots great. Your range officer sounds like someone that would be very interesting to sit around and talk to.

    • @TexanUSMC8089
      @TexanUSMC8089 2 года назад +5

      @@K-bob_45 The failure for the 6.5-284 was that there were three companies that claimed it. 6.5-284 winchester, 6.5-284 Lapua, 6.5-284 Norma. No company wanted to make ammo because of the slight differences in cartridges and similarities in names. That's the main reason the 6.5 PRC was developed. No rebated rim, and same case capacity.

    • @K-bob_45
      @K-bob_45 2 года назад +3

      @@TexanUSMC8089 I’m pretty sure Norma is the only SAAMI loading. The 284 parent was the only cartridge winchester had claim to. I think lapua only started making the brass due to the popularity of the wildcat in F class. But yeah it never really caught on outside of benchrest. I’m not really sure rebated rims are a real problem but I know that’s what hornady’s 6.5 PRC pamphlet said 😂

    • @csjrogerson2377
      @csjrogerson2377 2 года назад +2

      Your old-timer friend knew the principles of ballistics and when someone does, just looking at a cartridge or knowing the specs will instantly enable you to compare with other similar cartridges and determine what its general characteristics will be. Thus you will quickly spot the marketeering of modern cartridge production.

  • @exothermal.sprocket
    @exothermal.sprocket 2 года назад +6

    6.8 Western came along to give the 270 new life. I guess we'll see.

  • @basketbarbarian642
    @basketbarbarian642 2 года назад +15

    270 is what I got first Caribou with in 2019 when I was 13 in the Barron lands of the Canadian northwest Territories

  • @emtfireman813
    @emtfireman813 Год назад +29

    The 270, in my opinion, is the best round for hunting bigger game in North America. Excellent ballistics, great selection of ammo, easy to find and will take down anything it hits. Yes, there are better rounds in each, individual category, but in combination, you can't beat it.

  • @ryanmurphy8327
    @ryanmurphy8327 2 года назад +6

    Ones again thank you for the great information 270 win fan here , enjoy the great Channel

  • @garyCauser
    @garyCauser Год назад +1

    The 270 has seen it all….still around and still going strong! Boys and their toys….

  • @danieldalessandro96
    @danieldalessandro96 2 года назад +78

    I'd love to see a video on the 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser cartridge. Underrated and over looked way to much here in North America.

    • @vikingsoftpaw
      @vikingsoftpaw 2 года назад +12

      This... I'd like to see a the 6.5 PRC vs 6.5 Sweed comparison. I have a hunch somebody's reinventing the wheel...

    • @TexanUSMC8089
      @TexanUSMC8089 2 года назад +11

      @@vikingsoftpaw The problem with the 6.5x55 Swede is it was designed for a mid length receiver in a mauser action. In the USA we mostly use short, standard/long, and magnum. The 6.5x55 case doesn't fit well into any US rifles. I think the 6.5x55 came out in 1895, and in 1913 Newton made an American version by necking down the 30-06 case. It was called the 257 Newton and later changed to 6.5-06. For some reason not that many people bought one. I have one and know a few others that do.

    • @kjoebek
      @kjoebek 2 года назад +3

      And the 6.5x57

    • @Uberragen21
      @Uberragen21 2 года назад +3

      @@vikingsoftpaw - yes and yes, but with a twist. Similarities abound, except when you look at factory ammunition on the 6.5x55 Swede is designed for a slower barrel twist rate. The 6.5 PRC ammunition is designed for a faster 1:8 barrel twist to stabilize the longer bullets with high BC. That's the primary difference even with the 6.5 PRC vs 270 Winchester. Since most people don't reload, they simply buy factory ammunition for their rifles, modern bullet geometry needs to match modern barrels.
      It's kind of like the .38 vs .357 case length. You can achieve .357 velocity out of a .38 with modern powder, but you will likely destroy an older weaker metallurgy .38 special revolver. So the .38 factory ammunition is loaded weak to be usable in the older revolvers without creating dangerous issues. Those manufacturers reserve the modern powders for the .357 where you can't accidentally load into your old .38 spl.

    • @davep5227
      @davep5227 2 года назад +2

      @@kjoebek what is that?? Never heard of it! I did buy a 6.5×55 Mauser rifle and totally Believe in it! She helped the Finnish in WW II. Swedish Precision. Can't Beat It

  • @darrylkoehn3570
    @darrylkoehn3570 2 года назад +28

    In an era of scarce factory ammo, the .270 Win is usually more common on the shelves than the exotic 6.5s!!

  • @dillonlyon8947
    @dillonlyon8947 2 года назад +7

    I hunt in upstate New York. I use a Remington 7600 .270 win. I love the .270. My next high dollar rifle will be in 6.8 western. Great video

  • @219garry
    @219garry 2 года назад +9

    Lot of cartridges out there. I think one would only need 4 of them to hunt everything from squirrels to buffalo

    • @MrMalicious5
      @MrMalicious5 2 года назад

      4? More like 2. I don't know what it is with Fudds and their cartridge wars. Any modern rifle cartridge is capable of killing a deer. Not like they can take advantage of the external ballistics when they never shoot past 100 yards anyways.

  • @TexanUSMC8089
    @TexanUSMC8089 2 года назад +18

    One thing to remember, before anyone took the 3006 case and necked it down to 277 and made the 270 winchester, Newton necked the 30-06 down to 6.5/264 cal in 1913. He named it the 257 Newton because back then they measured the bore and not the grooves. It was later saami spec by A-Square and called the 6.5-06 A-Square. I think Newton saw the 6.5x55 Swede and how good it was and Americanized it by using the 3006 case.

  • @ashton7790
    @ashton7790 2 года назад +2

    Just took a nice buck this weekend with my .270!

  • @halbennett4491
    @halbennett4491 2 года назад +31

    Really enjoyed the video Ron. Seems we're always trying to build a better mousetrap, but when it comes to the 6.5 PRC/270 Win, I'm still firmly in Jack O'Connor's camp. The 270, in my opinion, remains one of the most versatile hunting calibers for North American big game. If you're into ringing steel, well, you can do that too with modern powders and bullet selections for the 270.

    • @RonSpomerOutdoors
      @RonSpomerOutdoors  2 года назад +22

      Right you are, Hal. Too many shooters seem to be of the opinion that a cartridge design nearly 100 years old can't compete with more modern designs. Guys, its just a powder reservoir. Certainly it limits powder quantity, but the old cases can burn the same powders as the new and push the same bullets (withing twist limits.) Another myth is that you need a tricked out PRS "long range" platform rifle to hit anything beyond 500 yards. I've smacked plenty of plates from 600 to 1,000 with ordinary hunting rifle and scopes. I'm not going to win any competitions, but I have fun and learn/improve as I go.

    • @tomcurran8470
      @tomcurran8470 Год назад +1

      Jack O'Connor, 270 Win., 4x scope, and a 700 hard kill on a deer. He was the man.

    • @geoffreyjohnston6483
      @geoffreyjohnston6483 Год назад +2

      I keep seeing a group of shooters thego for the "next big thing". I just wonder if your out in BFE and you need ammo, are you going to find 6.5 PRC? Creedmore maybe, but you most likely find 270, 308 or 30-06. If you have something that works, if it's not broke, don't fix it.

    • @brianrichards5694
      @brianrichards5694 10 месяцев назад

      Yep 270 is close to the kwan,the 280,160gr bullitt @3000fps=the holy grail

  • @timbow50
    @timbow50 2 года назад +9

    Ron's videos are always well presented with common sense and easy to understand information. The .270 is a multi use caliber from prairie dogs to elk ammo.

  • @tylercarder581
    @tylercarder581 10 месяцев назад +1

    Sticking with my old 270. ❤

  • @gajierote2496
    @gajierote2496 2 года назад +8

    Don’t forget the 180 grain woodligh for 270 that will stabilize in most 1-10s. Great video 270 still going

    • @csjrogerson2377
      @csjrogerson2377 2 года назад

      Feed the Woodleigh 180gr 270 info into the Berger stability calculator and see what you get. SG of 1.44 and marginal stability. Recommends a slightly tighter twist at 9.75.

    • @pauldeahl3980
      @pauldeahl3980 2 года назад +1

      @@csjrogerson2377 - every gun shoots differently. Only way to see if your gun likes it is to try it. It may surprise you.

  • @codym2903
    @codym2903 2 года назад +5

    Have both and love both.

  • @corycoad5825
    @corycoad5825 2 года назад +8

    I love learning about all the different cartridges even if I will never use or even see one shot in person.

  • @MrNalajohn
    @MrNalajohn 2 года назад +4

    I'm out in the Southern Part of Africa. Most popular rifles at our rifle club are 308, 300wm,, 30-06 and 243. Most guys use 243 and 6.5 creedmore for competitive shooting. Have not seen any other 6.5 varients here yet. Also never seen a 7mm 08 yet, which is the only other calibre I want. My wife and I have rifles in the following calibers 7mmrm, .243 .375, 30-06, .223 and ,303 British (heirloom). My go to rifle is the 7mmrm for everything, which unfortunately means where possible head and neck shots when hunting smaller game like impala and springbok (due to meat damage). Maybe the 6.5 "magnum" is my answer, but want to look into the 7mm 08, unfortunately a decision to acquire either will be challenged by poor ammo availability. I'll wait to see if either gains traction in popularity over the next year or so.

  • @curiousjoe2126
    @curiousjoe2126 2 года назад +5

    Empire of the Summer Moon is a great book!

  • @jamestoth1256
    @jamestoth1256 2 года назад +7

    Love the .270 I also like the .260 what a great caliber and it's been around a long time. How soon everyone forgets.

  • @IamCOLLEGE
    @IamCOLLEGE 2 года назад +3

    Great video, Covey. Ron you were ok too!

  • @blainenelson2319
    @blainenelson2319 2 года назад +5

    I own rifles in both of these calibers and love them both. The deer I’ve taken with them never knew the difference

  • @wes326
    @wes326 11 месяцев назад +3

    If you hunt but don't do long range target shooting, then the traditional hunting cartridges are all you need. Thanks for sharing.

    • @Manbunmen65
      @Manbunmen65 5 месяцев назад

      What is a traditional cartridge? The 6.5x55 has 40 years on the 270, so which one is "traditional" The 270 has 80 years on the 6.5 creedmoor...You see where I'm going with this?

    • @wes326
      @wes326 5 месяцев назад

      @@Manbunmen65 Good point. We've probably had all the cartridges we need for hunting since the 1960's. Most everything since then is marketing or boredom. We are just splitting hairs now. Long-range target shooting is another story due to high BCs and twist rates. Just my opinion.

  • @cameronjohnson6838
    @cameronjohnson6838 2 года назад +23

    Darn you Ron! So much for me wanting to buy a new caliber I’ll just stick with the 270! Love your channel. I do really enjoy my 6 creed for deer and coyotes though.

  • @jasonlopez4855
    @jasonlopez4855 2 года назад +2

    I'm a big fan of all the -06 calibers
    270 win 👍🏽🦌 caliber every one I know has One at one time or another.

  • @johnqpublic2718
    @johnqpublic2718 2 года назад +3

    I studied the Comanche in College at athe University of Oklahoma. I was lucky enough to have access to countless primary sources in the Western Heritage Collection. They were definitely an interesting people.

  • @lonniefransen2946
    @lonniefransen2946 2 года назад +10

    Loading 150gr sierra or nosler partion with reloader 26 will get you about 3050 fps so they are about same, cost goes to 270 still one of the best

    • @mgmitchell92
      @mgmitchell92 2 года назад

      I have heard the same. .270 winchester is still doing wonders for all things hunting.

  • @garrettforchrist2700
    @garrettforchrist2700 2 года назад +10

    I really like your videos Ron. I'm a .270 guy, but lately I've had an interest in the 6.8 Western. Maybe you could do a video on that.🇺🇲✝️🇺🇲

  • @chevyon37s
    @chevyon37s 2 года назад +19

    I love my 6.5PRC. Shoots great, I just zeroed it yesterday and I’ll be deer hunting with it soon!
    And with handloads over 3000fps is easily attainable with a 140-147gr bullet.

    • @malachiwhite356
      @malachiwhite356 2 года назад +1

      What real-world velocities are achievable with 120--130 grain bullets?

    • @shootingatshadow
      @shootingatshadow 2 года назад +5

      @@malachiwhite356 3200 on the 120 and 3100 on the 130

    • @malachiwhite356
      @malachiwhite356 2 года назад +1

      @@shootingatshadow Okay, thanks.

  • @Stargazer80able
    @Stargazer80able 2 года назад +1

    Most standard calibers in the .303British, to the .30-06 and the 6,5 Carcano, 6,5 Arisaka, 6,5 Swedish/Norwegian will do the same job. 6,5x55 have taken everything from polar bears and seals to moose and everything smaller. Today, even smaller bore is used, as the .243 is a most common caliber for deer in North America. For the average hunter it is more about availability of ammunition and cost than anything else. Good ammunition that don`t bruise half of the animal comes second. All of the mentioned is very capable on deer sized animals. For a sudden stop of a larger animal, there are the .358 Weatherbys, Rigbys, Lotts and magnums. The spectrum of calibers available is immense. With new bullet tech today, the lethality is the same, but the bruising is about none. You put out some of the best videos out there Ron. Please keep them coming!

  • @mr.2d749
    @mr.2d749 2 года назад +4

    Still hanging on to my M77 270

  • @tonydoe877
    @tonydoe877 2 года назад +3

    Love my 270, 30-06, 30-30 with Leverevolution…❤️

    • @travissmith-wz5nc
      @travissmith-wz5nc 2 года назад

      Having trouble find leverevolution in Michigan

    • @tonydoe877
      @tonydoe877 2 года назад

      @@travissmith-wz5nc I ordered from Sportsman Guide over the years…stocked up

    • @travissmith-wz5nc
      @travissmith-wz5nc 2 года назад

      @@tonydoe877 ya not there now. Lol. And gun brokers. Com is just price gouging

    • @tonydoe877
      @tonydoe877 2 года назад

      @@travissmith-wz5nc sorry to here that!

  • @gerrymccarthy9568
    @gerrymccarthy9568 2 года назад +34

    Really like these videos Ron. Here in Ireland the Creedmore has also taken off. Mostly for long range target shooting. 270 Win still very popular for hunting, as is the 308 Win, 30-06 and 300 Win mag. Don’t know why the 300 mag is popular. We have Sika, Fallow and Red Deer, the latter being a three quarter size Wapiti ( Elk in ‘merica). Oh! The PRC is so far making no progress.

    • @hikenmikes8262
      @hikenmikes8262 2 года назад +4

      The Irish seem quite wise.

    • @TexanUSMC8089
      @TexanUSMC8089 2 года назад +14

      Unfortunately new cartridges are probably slower to catch on in Europe because of government restrictions on owning guns. I live in a town of about 25,000 in Texas and we have 7 or 8 stores that sell guns. We can walk in and buy one and walk out with our new rifle in 30 minutes.

    • @hikenmikes8262
      @hikenmikes8262 2 года назад +1

      @@TexanUSMC8089 ya gotta love Texas!! If I could handle the humidity, I’d be there👍🏼

    • @joquin4618
      @joquin4618 2 года назад +1

      You guys own guns? Good to know! I guess the “old world” is not that bad for gun nuts ! Would love to visit your country and have a good stout !! Cheers 🍻 !!

    • @VexChoccyMilk
      @VexChoccyMilk 2 года назад +2

      @@malachiwhite356 I would imagine in some countries where you are limited to how many/what kind of guns you can own, the few allowed would be more consolidated popularity-wise. So, I assume less factory ammo options available.

  • @guilhermepietro7178
    @guilhermepietro7178 4 месяца назад +1

    Ron looks like the hunter from the fox and the hound movie, quite fitting actually. lol

  • @nickq204
    @nickq204 2 года назад +7

    The .270 is tough to beat. I can find ammo for it all over America, and it’ll perform well enough on any game found here.
    That being said, the 6.5 PRC is an interesting concept, but I don’t think I’ll get on board with it right away..

  • @tonymcbroom5252
    @tonymcbroom5252 2 года назад +6

    I think I would lean toward the 6.5 Swede if I was going to go that way, but I love my .270. Where I live in TN, shots over 200 yds are few and far between, most are less than 100 yards so 150 grain .270 is the tonic! Thanks for the video Ron, gonna pick that book up for sure.

  • @guyranctilsr
    @guyranctilsr 2 года назад

    We watch all your videos ,why they r ones to fallow ,this family we love u mr Spomer

  • @LandonS_23
    @LandonS_23 2 года назад +3

    Great video Ron. I’m a huge 270win fan

  • @daveaver
    @daveaver 2 года назад +3

    Thanks Ron, just ordered the book.

  • @vincegordon6830
    @vincegordon6830 2 года назад +4

    Outstanding video Ron!!! Hi Covey 👋🤩

  • @cornbreadburgess1950
    @cornbreadburgess1950 2 года назад +1

    Thanks Ron

  • @falba1492
    @falba1492 2 года назад +16

    If I ever wanted a 6.5/.264 cartridge, it would be a 264 Win Mag. Nothing new under the sun 🌞

    • @joshlower1
      @joshlower1 2 месяца назад

      Get with the times boomer, we have good rifles now.

    • @falba1492
      @falba1492 2 месяца назад

      @@joshlower1 Do you mean cartridges, my soy drinking child?

  • @johnfontenot7861
    @johnfontenot7861 Год назад +4

    That is a great book, i had no idea the comanchees were so powerful ! I really appreciate the book recommendations.

  • @MrMillez
    @MrMillez 2 года назад

    Ron you are a pleasure to listen to

  • @iamnotpaulavery
    @iamnotpaulavery 2 года назад +6

    Can you cover the 6.5-300 Wthby mag? If you already did, let me know.
    Thanks. Always looking forward to your videos!! Give your dog a big hug for me!! I miss my two German Shepherds. Over the years they started getting old and both developed hip dysplasia. Such a horrible disorder that's highly prevalent in Shepherds! I've been a dog lover since I was born! First dog I had was a Golden retriever mix my dad got for me when I was born. When my male Shepherd passed on last year, I ended up with...cats!! Yikes!!! I'm already looking for another dog, lol!

  • @chrisellis3814
    @chrisellis3814 2 года назад +17

    Great call-out on Empire of the Summer Moon. Fantastic book for all the reasons you mentioned and others. Very thought-provoking in terms of the relationship between the white settlers and the tribes. Very interesting in terms of the impact of the Texas Rangers and the revolving pistol.

  • @zacharyfrench9935
    @zacharyfrench9935 2 года назад +3

    Support from Arkansas

  • @williamgoldston5803
    @williamgoldston5803 2 года назад +3

    Great video. I love my old 270 win and have a 6.5 PRC I am going to try. I was so excited about the video, I was watching on an afternoon hunt over the corner of a Tennessee soybean field along the Elk river. I was using Bluetooth and game ears. I glanced up and noticed a whitetail buck watching as well. Took him with approximately 75 yard shot with a 12 gauge slug. I would prefer my 270 but this hunt regulations require slings and it worked.

  • @candelariosanchez273
    @candelariosanchez273 2 года назад +2

    I’m from Texas and I’m not sure I’m ready to change my .270 WSM gor a 6.5 prc any time soon since the Prc are so hard to find on the shelves but always so confident on my .270 WSM to get the job done .

  • @kevinroberts9580
    @kevinroberts9580 2 года назад +5

    I was waiting for you to get around to the ballistic coefficient difference🤔😁

    • @RonSpomerOutdoors
      @RonSpomerOutdoors  2 года назад +1

      .591 270 vs. .630 for the PRC, as I recall. Sorry, but I'm in deer camp and didn't get to preview this vid before it went out. The B.C.s and trajectory data will be in the full-length version of this on RSOTV.com soon.

  • @nmelkhunter1
    @nmelkhunter1 2 года назад +4

    Great video. I agree with your recommendation of Empire of the Summer Moon. The Comanche struck me as being, if you will, US Army Rangers on horseback. As you said, they were the ultimate horsemen of the plains. Great read!

  • @AlanRoehrich9651
    @AlanRoehrich9651 Год назад +2

    Keeping my Model 70 in 270 Winchester.

  • @luvtahandload7692
    @luvtahandload7692 2 года назад +3

    I think it all comes down to twist rate. Perhaps SAAMI should consider steepening the standard twist rate of nearly every cartridge more than 20 years old.
    I was subscribed to you, Ron, but when you mentioned it in this vid, I looked and found that YT unsubscribed me. I recall that it has happened with other channels in the past as well. Anyway, I re-upped! Thanks, Ron!

  • @mikecon7634
    @mikecon7634 2 года назад +1

    Thank you

  • @whiteman3075
    @whiteman3075 2 года назад +3

    I load a 130 grain Berger hunting bullet in my prc in a 26 inch barrel and it’s shooting that bullet at 3250. I used a 270 for years but never had one shooting a 130 shot as flat as this Prc.

    • @lanceelliott5812
      @lanceelliott5812 2 года назад +1

      My own 270 handloads are shooting 270 win 150s at 3050 and 130s at 3200, factory Hornady SSTs are moving along at 3200...all in a 24" barrel. I'm sure a 26" barrel would add about 100fps to those numbers. So the PRC offers nothing over the 270 win.

    • @whiteman3075
      @whiteman3075 2 года назад +1

      @@lanceelliott5812 I only ever shot factory ammo thru my old 270 so I really couldn’t take advantage of hand loads. I know a 270 can push a bullets just it’s not gana out shoot the prc without getting a bigger heavier bullet going fast. In general I’m just saying my 270 did not shoot as flat. Still love my 270. I’m just more into 6.5 and 6 mm these days

    • @whiteman3075
      @whiteman3075 2 года назад +1

      @@lanceelliott5812 FYI I did have 270 short mag once that shot awesome.

  • @jontalbert5448
    @jontalbert5448 2 года назад +6

    270 Winchester--DONE

  • @zechnarwilliams8019
    @zechnarwilliams8019 2 года назад +2

    I am still playing the .260 Remington card!

  • @TheDruxlol
    @TheDruxlol 2 года назад +2

    cant get over the barrel life

    • @MrMalicious5
      @MrMalicious5 2 года назад +1

      Be honest, have you ever shot out a barrel?

  • @bryangrote8781
    @bryangrote8781 2 года назад +4

    Great book recommendation. Empire of the Summer Moon is the best book on the Indian Wars I’ve ever read and it pulls no punches for either side.

    • @tomcurran8470
      @tomcurran8470 Год назад +1

      Yes, it is great. The crazy thing is that the statue of the Texas Rangers was taken down because they went after Indians, not PC nowadays. However, the truth is that they went after Comanches, which wreaked havoc with both other Indians and everyone else.

  • @paulnirschl6500
    @paulnirschl6500 2 года назад +5

    Ron I’ve been hunting with a 270 Win for 45yrs and will stick with it plus you can find ammo for it any where, well usually. I did however jump on the 6.5 creedmore band wagon a few years ago and you are right not to impressive as a deer round but does well on coyotes and such.

    • @MrMalicious5
      @MrMalicious5 2 года назад +3

      The deer won't know the difference between 6.8mm and 6.5mm, lol.

    • @christopherlewis9652
      @christopherlewis9652 2 года назад +3

      give me a break. all the wild game in my freezer would beg to differ and wish you were were right. when you put the bullet through the heart and or lungs ANYTHING is gonna die.

    • @fedup3582
      @fedup3582 2 года назад

      @@christopherlewis9652 ya, that is right, but in my experience hunting with a 6.5 creedmoor, it is sure underwhelming in doing it.

    • @fedup3582
      @fedup3582 2 года назад +1

      @@christopherlewis9652 my 257 Roberts flattened the same type of game at longer ranges, with the same behind the shoulder, heart/lung shots, while those same type animals hit with the creedmoor ran longer distances than most calibers, I've used on that type game. Ya if was easy to shoot, yes it was accurate, yes I was able to make good shots on the game, yes the bullets expanded and penetrated, no the terminal effect was not impressive, it was very underwhelming, particularly as I watched well hit animals run excessive distances. I had not so long before taken 3 head of the same type game with heart/ lung hits at longer ranges with a 257 Roberts and those animals dropped in their tracks. Same type animals taken with bigger calibers, such as the 270, left much more impressive damage to internal organs than the creedmoor did. I was quite disappointed in the performance of the creedmoor. Yes it harvested the game. Yes it was very underwhelming in doing so.

    • @fedup3582
      @fedup3582 2 года назад

      @@christopherlewis9652 well I am glad you have great success, I hope it continues, but i will follow my first hand experience.

  • @308guy8
    @308guy8 2 года назад +4

    Remington made a 6.5 Remington magnum years ago nobody talks about it anymore

    • @malachiwhite356
      @malachiwhite356 2 года назад

      Remington mucked it up by offering it in a bolt-action carbine with a ventilated rib.

  • @TheRAFlemingsMr
    @TheRAFlemingsMr 2 года назад +1

    I wanted to thank you because you saved me a bunch of money. All the rage seems to be 6.5mm cartridges; creedmore, PRC, etc. After watching your videos on the comparisons I realized that the .270 Win sitting in the closet was equal to and in some cases better than the new whiz bang calibers. So I dropped my plan to buy a 6.5 and dusted off my .270. I'm old and old school; don't fix it if it ain't broke and don't spend money for what you've basically already got. So thank you and keep up the great work. Love your analysis, it helps an old fogey like me to decide whether the next SS check goes to food or a new firearm.

  • @nsatoday
    @nsatoday 2 года назад +2

    Love you videos. Going with .280 AI for my hunting needs past what a 7mm-08 will do. And yes I’ve got .30-06 and .270 rifles

    • @fedup3582
      @fedup3582 2 года назад +1

      The 280 AI is a fantastic cartridge. Wish they would chamber it in more rifles and produce more and lower cost ammo for it. If they had put out the AI in the first place, the 280 Remington would never have existed (sort of a which came first, the chicken or the egg scenario). The 280 AI is what the 280 Remington should have been in the first place. Just my opinion. But the 30-06 and 270 are just two established standards that are available, reasonably priced, and been getting it done with aplomb for many decades.

  • @kurtglo
    @kurtglo 2 года назад

    Thanks Ron for the recommendation of the book- I'm going to buy it for myself and for some of the men I disciple that are in jail with lots of time on their hands.....Kurt

  • @leathers970
    @leathers970 Год назад

    270 has always been my caliber, but I'm definitely shooting my 6.5 prc now.

  • @peteunderwood2772
    @peteunderwood2772 3 месяца назад

    Looks like a great book to add to the to-read list.

  • @j6784d
    @j6784d 2 года назад +1

    Just finished Empire of the Summer Moon. Life on the Plains was so brutal. Crazy that those tribes had no word for surrender. Death was expected if they didn't win the fight. Started reading Lonesome Dove after that. 1/2 through.

  • @GarrettsTravelNAdventure
    @GarrettsTravelNAdventure Год назад

    The legendary, last great Chief of the Comanches Quanah Parker on the cover of the book. He Is a distant relative of mine. Cool to see a shoutout to the Comanches and West Texas in one of your videos! You should make a video on the perfect hunting rifle for west texas game. Whitetail, hogs javelina, antelope coyotes and even some Mule deer!

  • @missey316
    @missey316 2 года назад

    Thank you Ron

  • @readyalready4697
    @readyalready4697 Год назад

    Love my 270 win. Love my 6.5 creed. As I walk out the door with my 25-06. Maybe next time boys

  • @adamelam6385
    @adamelam6385 2 года назад +1

    I watched Ron's video on the 6.8 Western vs the .270/.270 wsm. Instead of swaying me towards the new cartridge I ended up with a Tikka .270 wsm.

    • @falba1492
      @falba1492 2 года назад

      Excellent choice. If you ever decided to put a fast twist 1:8.5” barrel on that rifle, you would come to the conclusion, you need nothing else in your armory.

  • @bobkat1663
    @bobkat1663 2 года назад +2

    Great Show

  • @Ben-xq8ge
    @Ben-xq8ge Год назад +2

    Ron, the twist rate is the only thing holding back the good old lady 270 from being the belle of the ball. Berger is making a 170gr EOL with a .662 BC (loaders reporting up to .67 with newer runs) with all the modern design features, just need more options like it in the market!

  • @davidmackee8575
    @davidmackee8575 2 года назад +1

    Cracking video very interesting thanks Ron...

  • @ronrichmond4694
    @ronrichmond4694 2 года назад +1

    Love your channel Ron!! 👍👍👍

  • @langleyj8199
    @langleyj8199 2 года назад

    Good info, you always get people thinking. Thanks Ron.

  • @kevinfidler8074
    @kevinfidler8074 2 года назад +5

    How about .264 win mag vs 6.5 prc and creedmoor

  • @alfonsogarcia8744
    @alfonsogarcia8744 2 года назад +2

    I love my .270 WSM. Win model 70.

  • @jeffreymurphy4229
    @jeffreymurphy4229 Год назад

    Agree that is a Great book

  • @badmedic6
    @badmedic6 2 года назад +2

    You make quality content, Ron. Cheers

  • @Anthanos89
    @Anthanos89 Год назад

    .270, 25-06, all these older flat shooting cartridges are great but it's clear no one was thinking about higher BC projectiles and tighter twist rates back then. The PRC is the thinking mans long range cartridge.

  • @arborist460
    @arborist460 2 года назад +1

    I want more on the .280 ackley improved…love to hunt in your area with a custom .28 nosler blueprinted and fit to my little frame..lol..thanks Ron love the knowledge

    • @JAKDRZR
      @JAKDRZR 2 года назад

      I think he has a right up on the net about a 280ai.

    • @brettstewart5186
      @brettstewart5186 2 года назад

      That 28 nosler sounds sweet mate cheers Yogi Australia 🇦🇺🤟🤟

  • @cliffdiymech3996
    @cliffdiymech3996 Месяц назад

    I have a 270 and a 6.5 creedmoor, I haven’t bought a 6.5prc simply because of the comparable ballistics between the 270 and the prc. Ron is stating truth, as always. I do keep buying ammo for the 270 and the creedmoor much more so than my other rifles though, great video Ron!👍

  • @CraigDaniel1965
    @CraigDaniel1965 2 года назад +1

    Thanks again, Ron...I have a Savage 110 Ultralight in 270 and a Ruger Precision in 6.5 Creedmoor but you pique my interest in 6.5 PRC

    • @donnkelley6823
      @donnkelley6823 2 года назад +1

      I've got a Ruger Precision in 6.5PRC and it is AWESOME......
      It kicks just a tick more than a Creedmore but still comfortable to shoot.....
      It's a handloaders dream. You can do a lot with it besides full house barrel burning loads, but it does those extremely well also....
      I can't replicate the factory consistency of 3fps, I'm thinking I'm pretty good at 10-12fps deviation.....
      Give it a try, you might like it

    • @CraigDaniel1965
      @CraigDaniel1965 2 года назад

      @@donnkelley6823 Thanks Donn

  • @donwhigham2244
    @donwhigham2244 2 года назад

    My .270 Winchester match with Barnes vortx 130 grain awesome combination

  • @matthewpotter2682
    @matthewpotter2682 2 года назад +3

    Hey Ron, I'm not sure if you have done anything on the 300PRC but, if not that would be one I'd like to see something on from you. Comparison to other cartridges and maybe some reloading.

  • @RingersbulletsLLC
    @RingersbulletsLLC Месяц назад

    That is a great book!

  • @30Huckleberry
    @30Huckleberry 2 года назад +4

    Got into the 6.5 PRC because I’m already invested with 6.5 bullets because of my 6.5X55. My Bergara in 6.5prc has a thick barrel for long range target shooting.

  • @adamboone6864
    @adamboone6864 2 года назад

    Interesting, have that book on the book shelf. Don’t know where it came from, guess I should read it now.
    I’m resisting the 6.5 craze, reluctantly.

  • @quinncunneen7845
    @quinncunneen7845 2 года назад +1

    Hey Ron. You should make videos about specific bullets and cartridges for specific animals or regions. If you were to just hunt mule deer what bullet and cartridge would be ideal in your opinion? Or if you were to only hunt in Alaska what bullet and cartridge would be ideal? Apply it to antelope, moose, Montana or whatever other game and animal you can think of. Love your stuff Ron!

  • @The1stsuperman
    @The1stsuperman 2 года назад +1

    Empire of the Summer Moon! Cool to see some literature on this channel. Great stuff, mister.

  • @cardude1992
    @cardude1992 5 месяцев назад

    It's the 6.5 Grendel that got people talking about 5.56 vs 6.5 Grendel initially. Creedmoor came later I think.

  • @arthurshingler2025
    @arthurshingler2025 Год назад

    I agree with your comparisons!

  • @scottmansur9978
    @scottmansur9978 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks!

  • @chrisj0
    @chrisj0 Год назад +2

    I think your article on the fast-twist 270 barrel makes a lot of sense. Main difference between 6.5 PRC (or the next hot cartridge) and the 270 win (or the 30-06 et. all) is ammo availability. On the other hand, if you started making all 270 win barrels in 1:8 twist, you'd have access to all existing ammo and could hand load the new high BC bullets for the 6.8 Western. Really a do everything rifle.
    Edit: sorry it was an article; it was a question by a viewer.

    • @markhasleton6403
      @markhasleton6403 Год назад

      I friend of mine ( a successful businessman ), owns a customised .270 with a 23" , 8.25" twist barrel. That beast throws those 170g Berger's like like ...well ... a 300 yd moose round should.

  • @robertrussell9336
    @robertrussell9336 2 года назад +2

    Love your work Ron. I enjoy your take and experience, Keep up the outstanding work in educating and sharing your personal experience and knowledge.