My condolences. Perhaps your wife would smile down and be happier if you went out hunting again? She wants you to be happy and enjoy things.... maybe even in her memory. God bless.
One day at a time bud...you will know when you get out there. Just remember our loved ones that have moved on want us to thrive and be happy. @@ronlafitte6864
@@ronlafitte6864find a young person that wants to learn but doesn't have anyone to teach them. I always wanted to hunt but nobody has ever taken me. It would mean alot to the person and it will make you feel good 👍😊
Love my 270. Taken mule deer, antelope, elk and moose. Never taken more than 2 shots, and never lost an animal. All under 400 yards. Thanks for sharing.
@@Bushman_sam My Browning x-bolt loves the 140 gr Nosler ballistic tip. I am able to get 3/4" groups all day. It is heavier than the 130 and still shoots pretty flat. My plan is to start reloading and try either a Nosler 165 grain Accubond long range or the Nosler 150 grain Accubond. We will have to see which one my gun likes.
Any bullet,weight that you can put in the boiler room,this focus on which, what, weight etc is nonsense. Just know where it hits in that 6-10" lung size, how do you do that?, shoot lots it'll show you where it hits, you'll feel confident.@@Bushman_sam
@@johac7637 You've got it all wrong my friend! These days deer, elk and moose are made of Kevlar and stainless steel, why if you shoot anything less than a 300 ultra mag, you could get badly mauled by a woodchuck. In all seriousness, thank you for talking common sense.
I saved up summer money and bought myself a Weatherby Vanguard .270 late 80's. I was 17. My non hunting parents thought I was crazy. My buddies were envious. I can remember showing it off to my football coaches at school.🤣🤣
As someone who just graduated highschool in 2022 it's a shame I never got the opportunity to bring my rifle to school and compare it with my buddies, learned more valuable information our of school than in it though haha, now I'm studying ballistics and developing skills in gunsmithing and design
I took my 270 to Africa after the warthog and Impala. I brought my .338 for kudu and backup for my friend who was determined to get a cape buffalo with his .416 Remington. Little did I know that a trophy kudu would pop up when I was lightly armed with my Remington 270 and lowly 130 gr nosler partitions. Well I'll tell you what, at 110 yards that lowly .270 with the lightweight 130 nosler partition bullet went through both lungs, the heart and then the liver as it finally came to a halt in the off side hide. I dug it out with my 2 inch pocket knife 🔪. Everyone was pretty impressed. Many big game hunts later (30 yrs) my trusted. .270 Remington never left my side. .338, what's that?
Exactly. New and better equipment does not make old equipment any worse. Yes, some advancements can make older equipment obsolete because it’s not used. However, I still hunt with a Flintlock. Carbon composite stocks are more weather resistant than Woodstocks. I would much rather have a Woodstock on my hunting rifle. Better does not mean necessary.
40 years I’ve had a couple a bsa monarch and a tikka I’ve had so many different cal rifles over the years .but I only confidently deer hunt with my 270.it allways puts dinner on the table .never found any think can do anything better. .
Pre64 Mod 70 was, is, and will always be the greatest hunting rifle ever made. You have a fine specimen there. The 270 will still be here after all the newness and "can't find ammo for it" wears off and people come back to their senses. And it will happen.
Very true and when hunting stuff to reload with it is extremely expensive for the odd ball calibers. I was going to buy a 28 Nosler years ago until I started pricing casings it's a great rifle just not that great 65$ for 25 empty casings get real
@easttexan2933 when I priced empty casings a box of 20 loaded rounds was 60$ doesn't make sense to me but I saw enough to know that I didn't need that caliber
My brother in law had cancer and didn’t make it unfortunately. He had a savage 110 in 270 that I really just loved. It wasn’t anything fancy only thing he did to it was had a new recoil pad on it and a nice leather ammo cuff. The gun just was so accurate I couldn’t believe it. I think he bought it at the pawn shop years ago. When he passed my sister told me he wanted me to continue to hunt with his rifle and eventually teach his son the joys of the great outdoors. This fall will be my first season using it and I’ll have my nephew with me as well! Wish us luck! The 270 isn’t going anywhere because it’s just a great super versatile round.
I live in sweden after listening to Ron and given the opportunity I bought a remington 700 lefty in 270win and I love it much better then my old 308w 😂
I'm a lefty also. 270 still my favorite but I have 2 custom 308s ready for pick up. I'll have three 308s all built to my specs. I sold my custom Sako 308. I have seven 270s and more in process
Jack O'Connor, who said that the 30-06 was the cartridge against which all other cartridges were judged, because it was the standard spent years extolling the virtues of the .270.
I would say that the 30-06 is even better than it was int he past. First we have traditional bonded bullets, partitions, A-Frames and the like. On top of that solid coper bullets have gotten so good that you realisticly shoot 130gr. to 168gr. and use the added velocity to your advantage. Generaly traditionaly for the last 30 years I have been very much against 150gr. bullets in 30-06 and 300WM but with the advant of such fantastic solid copper bullets the case can be made especially int he 30-06 for the use of lighter bullets with out giving up anything! The 30-06 can sling a 130gr. solid copper bullet well over 3000fps.
Jack OConnor, never reported how many animals he lost shooting an under powered 270, …when I was guiding Deer and Elk, clients were not allowed to shoot beyond 150yds if they carried a 270 win and if they went against me and wounded an animal they were done hunting and returned to base camp or hauled out of the woods
Thanks for the video! I have gotten my 1in10 twist 270 to shoot the 165 ABLR extremely well. I've taken it out to 800 yards with a lot of success. My friend has loaded the 170 gr Berger EOL in his 270 with a 1in10 twist. He gets great accuracy and has taken it to 1000 yards.. He gets 2840 FPS with it as well. The reason it works is because we are at higher elevation. Other RUclipsrs have tried it at around 1400 feet with their 270WSM and get great results with the 165 ABLR.
🕵️♂️ Austin, This is WHY Your Channel and Other Small Channels Like Yours - That Aren't on Someone's Payroll and Reading Their Talking Points and Actually Own The Cartridge They Are Reviewing - Is So Important! Thanks For Correcting Some of The "Mis-Information" Being Spread Here! 🥳
Did you lengthen the throat for the longer bullets? I have an 8 twist 270 that’s throated for the heaviest. I’m getting 2940 fps with the 170 nosler ballistic tip. It averages half minute groups at 100 yards. I haven’t had the chance to stretch it out yet to see what it really does yet.
@@ReloadingWeatherbymy barrel is only 23 inches. The longer throat gives quite a bit more usable space for powder. Also, I’ll add that I used reloader 26 to get my results.
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I have the same rifle. It is very accurate. I used it in Idaho successfully on Mule deer. My son used it for several years in Alaska and took several caribou with it. I traded a Remington Model 700 .300 Win mag for it straight up. Got tired of the .300 beating the crap out of me every time I shot it. This was before ported barrels/muzzle breaks. Do not regret it one bit.
My brother in law walked into a Sears in the early 70’s said he needed a rifle. Salesman handed him a 270 in a Ted Williams (mod. 70). Never failed to bring home deer and elk for 30 plus years. With open sights. In his 50’s he switched to a 06 with a scope.
I started hunting in Montana, and I opted for a 270 over the 30-06 because it shot a little flatter. I used that rifle for a long time until I switched to the 7mm-08 for the ability to shoot slightly larger diameter projectiles out of a short action rifle.
You made a beautiful stock. Imperfections make it even better! I love watching you guys. Such great information by two very experienced and humble men!
I have 2 rifles in the 270 win with 2 other 270 win in the shop being built from old mauser actions. I collect rifles and the 270 is one of my favorite as it was Jack O’Conner favorite too but my favorite is the 30-06 followed by the 300 wsm. 60+ years of collecting reloading and hunting and a man can never have to many rifles, those 8 rifles in the shop being built and having about every cartridge in my collection at one time or another! What made the 270 is when the scopes came out and made the 270’s extra reach available and that’s when Jack really started liking it because the 270 came out in 1925 and didn’t even make much of a splash until the Redfield snd Leupold scopes came on the scene!
I bought my first rifle when I was about 12 years old. It was a 270 Remington model 700. My dad’s buddy sold it to me so he could buy a 7mm-08 for disabled kids to shoot for Catch a Dream. I’ll never let that one go. It’s one of my 3 primary whitetail rifles.
I just picked up an XPR Hunter (True Timber Strata) in 6.8 Western topped w/ a Vortex Crossfire II 6-18x44 scope. I absolutely love it. Ammo isn't cheap, but I'm thrilled we are still able to find it. It seems the 7 PRC hasn't served the 6.8 the death sentence just yet that people had predicted! I hope we can keep it alive, i really do love the cartridge. Along w/ the original 270 Winchester. Both great cartridges.
All the points for and against were all valid. But I'll still stick with the 270 for staying power; it's cheaper, more plentiful, and if things become scarce, I can always make brass from 30-06 or other 30-06 family of cartridges.
I’m young but an old soul or so iv been told. That being said I own many rifles but my 3 main cover all the bases rifles for North America are .243win, 270win, 300win mag. I reload for them all and have 100% confidence in all 3 calibers to do anything I need from varmint to all medium and big game on our continent (not that iv hunted grizz/brown bear) but we all know a 300win has done it. Now my age (37 years young) but my passion for “classic” calibers keeps me content with the tried and true offerings. Also with that age comes my insight into new and “improved” offerings. If I was to revamp my 3 main rifles I would honestly say the 6mm creedmore in place of 243win, 6.5prc in place of 270win, and 300prc in place of 300win mag. I’m set in my original choices but those 3 new cartridge designs would be my modern choices for all. All imho of course. Cheers from a Canadian hunter and shooter 🍻🇨🇦👍🏻
I have one of Bob Shapel's last firearms he built before his unfortunate passing, a Military Mauser 98 action with a Traister MK II safety in an incredible Bishop stock, chambered in .270 Win. My bang around .270 is a 1952 M70 standard grade and my Wifes' Elk rifle is a 1949 M70 WCF in a Reinhart Fagen Sportsman stock. They all shoot 3/4 to1 MOA when we do our part.
I shall always own a .270Win. My first was a Tikka LSA65, and shot from 130gr to 165gr really well. My second (current) is a Howa 1500, and it shoots 140gr to 165gr very well. It is finicky with 130gr loads. I am on my last box of old 165gr Sako Hammerheads, and have developed a new “permanent” load with the 140gr Viper mono-metal bullet, called the Plains Supreme. I’ve shot from as small as Rock Hyrax to as large as Giraffe with .270Win. These days I am feeling more dated than the .270Winchester.
I just restored a 1960’s Sako Finnbear in 270. Bought it at a pawn shops for $600. My first 4 loads were all sub-moa. It’s now officially a keeper. Nosler 150 gr Ballistic Tips all the way. Great video Ron!
That is EXACTLY the rifle I was allowed to borrow from and old fiend who worked up some handholds that cut under 1/2 inch at 100 yards and was the most beautiful rifles Ive ever seen and the most accurate. I now own a 7mm Sako Finnnbear.
I am a bit on the old side now and I struggle with the "modern" cartridges. I moved from UT to TX and then to AK and the 270 continues to perform flawlessly. There are some other ancient cartridges i enjoy as well such as the 300 Weatherby, the 308, the 7mm Remington, and the 45-70 but the 270 is an all around great choice for many game animals
Love you two guys! Always the best information, stories, program for hunters and shooters when you both are together. Always so glad when you have Joseph on. My father gave me his Remington 721 in .270 to me before he passed away. Of all my different rifles, that .270 is special to me. It was dads, and it’s my go to rifle. But I always love the information you both share on new modern cartridges. Thanks again, and stay safe.
now that is a riflemans rifle! bravo! well done and beautiful. I purchase the Wichester Supergrade in 270win because i wanted to have that classic rifle. with todays modern ammo its plenty capable out to 500 yards on elk.
Wow!!!!.....you two kept it totally honest !!!!...kudos to you excellent vidio !!!...if it worked that good for that many years,,,well why wouldn't it work today !!!!
In 2018 I shot a Yukon ram measuring 41 1/2* with my Model 70 .270 Winchester. I used a fixed 4X Leupold scope and 130 gr Sierra handloads. I'm a Jack O'Connor fan. It still works.
Thanks for the video y’all I’ve been looking into the 270 win more lately. Y’all was talking about factory rifles with a faster twist rate Christensen new evoke rifle comes with 1/8 twist as well as browning. Thanks again for the video very informative y’all keep up the good work God bless
Terminal accent are the best game bullet made. I've never seen a bullet hit that hard n give a pass through also. TA brings the best of all worlds into one bullet.
I think everyone misses the point of the 270 Win. you can carry an ultra-light rifle with a 22 inch barrel, get 3268 Fps. out of a 130 grain bullet, have the recoil, just at or just under the 30-06, and can kill anything on earth minus dangerous game. if you get a custom break down rifle, with two barrels, you get 2930 Fps. out of the Berger 170 grain bullet. Which is right at the 6.8 Western performance so why would I get anything else??? Now I am older now, and with the under performing ammo out there I would stop at Elk, and below for the 270 Win. Great Show.
What powder, brass, and bullet are you using to get 3200+ out of shorter barrels? R-26 is by far the fastest powder I've found for the heavier bullets, and R-16 does seem to get near 3200, but in my experience, using the highest-capacity brass, trying to get to 3200 with a few different bullets got me ejector marks in a couple different guns.
R-26 for me is by far the best powder I have used in a 270 Win. Brass, Alpha Munitions, Norma, Lapua, but those will cost you. Honestly, you want a 270 Win. with a 26 - 30 inch barrel, in such a case you can get higher fps. or can get the same fps. as a shorter barrel but will longer burning, and less powder, which equals to longer barrel life and less recoil and recoil vel. Sadly everyone makes a 22 or 24 inch barrel. Over the years I have noticed for longer shots, a 1/9 twist barrel is ideal for the 270 Win. I think Browning is offering 270 Win. with such a twist rate now. What I would do is get some Hornady Superformance ammo in 270 Win. , and find out what out what you get in your rifle, that will give you a bench mark for what kind of fps. you can get from your rifle.
I have applied many times for an out of state tag for moose in Maine. I was lucky enough to draw it twice. I loved hearing Mainers talk about hunting in the big woods for these incredible creatures when I hunted in Maine. The old timers hang in there with the classic cartridges - mostly 30-06. There were two old timers that spoke about the virtues of the 160 grain Nosler Partition in their 270’s. They have both taken moose as hunters and helped other hunters anchor their moose when they were guides. Know your firearm, practice, and match your projectile with the game - the 270 Winchester will not disappoint. One of the greatest American classics…. If you fancy the newest & greatest, that’s one thing - if you love the history & heritage of hunting, there is no better. Thank’s Jack.
I have been enjoying your channel for a couple years now, but this is the first one I felt inclined to comment on. At the age of 12, I purchased my first rifle, a Rem 700 in 243 Win., a great cartridge for California. That would have been 1970. Right after my 18th birthday, my grandfather gave me his shotgun and rifle, a browning A5, and a browning semi auto in 270 win. It had a carbine length barrel and the serial number said it was made in 1959. I hunted many years with it,a great rifle for everything that California could throw at it. I shot it at the range out to 500, but my longest hunting shot was a little over 200. Performed perfectly. Your channel always seems to bring back memories. Thank you for all the great info.
My dad had a .270 custom built in the early 90’s which he gave to me as my high school graduation gift. It’s a work of art. It’s got a walnut stock with a right handed cheek rest with a thumb hole, it has a marathon barrel with the original grouping page from when it was tested in Spain and a Mauser action bolt. That rifle has taken whitetail and mule deer in Texas and Colorado and to the best of his knowledge and my experience has lost only 1 animal, a wild hog in north Texas that a managed to survive a headshot, according to my dad. He’s always told me the same thing. “With good shot placement inside 400 yards you should never lose an animal with this rifle.” I know there are a ton of new rounds that can incredible things at 6,7 and 800 yards. But I really do believe that for whitetail, Mule deer, pronghorn, and elk, not to mention the many similarly sized exotics we have in the US now; the .270 is a top 5 cartridge choice when considering price, ammo availability, and functionality. It’s withstood the test of time and is still a phenomenal round.
I have a Tikka T3X 270 (1:10 twist) mounted with a fixed power 6 x 42 Schmidt Bender. The reticle is rock solid. I shoot exclusively Hornady Superformance SST 140 gr. and zero'd at 200 yds (6" drop at 300yds). I use a range finder and know my ammo ballistics, so can shoot with confidence out to 400 yards. Most game I shoot is within 300 yards. I prefer a neck or head shot as the game drips like a rock without taking a step.
I've honestly never hunted or even shot with a .270. Growing up in Oregon the first gun that I hunted with after I passed my hunter safety course when I was twelve was my grandfather's old .300 Win Mag and my first rifle that I owned was a 7mm Rem Mag. Now I live in Florida and have a .243 which I figure is more than enough gun for the game that I'll be hunting here.
It's still relevant. Granted, most of my long-range success has been with antelope. I have taken antelope at 659 yds, 526, 450, 437, 359, all with a 130 gr hornady interbond hand loads. I've taken deer at those yardages, too. Took an elk, too, but that was only 45 yards. It's accurate and deadly.
IMO 270 is a PERFECT 'all around use' cartridge. Even the 130grs are within 200-300 ftlbs of a 180gr 30-06 at any distance so a deer or antelope will never notice and that 150gr accubond or 145gr eldx from a 270 is basically the same or MORE energy than the 180gr '06 so you are good to go for elk BUT you get a flatter trajectory than the '06.
My first hunting rifle, a Winchester model 70 in .270 is still my primary deer & elk rifle. I finally replaced the original Burris 3x9 scope a couple years ago. I love watching this channel and seeing all the cartridge comparisons. Sometimes I think of buying something new, just to get something new, but nothing is compelling enough. Maybe the 6.8 Western, if I had to pick something different. At one point, I thought well maybe I’ll just buy a new .270 model 70 with a new contemporary synthetic stock. Come to find out, they don’t hardly make them in .270. I called Winchester and they told me that .270 is just not a popular enough caliber. Haha. Ok.
I never shot a 270 but one day I got a bargain new rifle in 270. I could not resist. Bought it then took it hunting for Red deer and I totally fell in love with the 270 even though I dream of a 7mm rifle. However I have a personal dislike of short neck cartridges that most new 7mm come in. So for now I’ll keep going with my love for my 270.
First off, that is a beautiful rifle at 3:30 I love my Savage 110 (made in the late 1990s) with the classic wood stock, blued steel and a Leupold Vari-X IIc 3x-9x scope on top. I also want to echo the point about ammo availability and the fact that if you walk into any gun store they’ll have a brand new .270 on the wall. That classic “hunting rifle” look just makes me think about grandpa’s old M1903 .30-06 deer rifle, something about the blued steel, wood stock and classic scope just looks and feels right. It loves the heavier 140-150 grain bullets and is zeroed with 150gr. soft points and it’s almost boringly accurate. Fiocchi Field Dynamics 150gr. PSP, Winchester Power-Point 150gr., PPU (Prvi Partizan) 150gr. PSP, Hornady 140gr. InterLock PSP and many others including Federal “blue box” Power-Shok (130 and 150 grain) I’ve got several boxes of -Hornady Precision Hunter ELD-X 145gr. -Federal Premium Berger Hybrid Hunter 140gr. -Winchester 130gr. Deer Season XP ammo burning a hole in my pocket waiting to be shot, with the rifle zeroed using the 150gr. Fiocchi soft points.
I grew up with hand me downs from my great grandads, and grandads, big surprise there growing up in a generational hunting family. I first had as a deer rifle which is probably no surprise and am sure many of you will say the samething. It’s was a Winchester Model 1894 .30-.30 manufactured in 1955. It was an anniversary gift from my great grandma to my great grandad. I was the only new gun he ever owned. When I turned 18 he gave his all around big North American game rifle which was an 03 Springfield chamber in .30-06 SPRGF which he bought second or even third hand like most of his other rifles, shotguns, handguns. He always told...son if you take care of this and take your time aim small, miss small this gun will get you anything in America!!! It had done just that for him, deer, mule deer, caribou, elk, moose, bobcats, mountain lion, black bear, grizzly, kodiak, antelope, wild hog, along with countless other sub species. To this day year in and year out these guns bring me great pleasure and joy. My papaw has sinced pass but I’m now the custodian of his entire collection and not get to pass down the heritage and fun to my daughter who just turned 10 along with other nieces and nephews. I also had several granddads who were into guns and was lucky enough to get some of those too. However my dad and my on grandfather are still healthy and able to hunt which is a total bonus for me because I’m still as a 40 year old man Am learning new things from. The Lord has blessed me and my heritage has blessed me as well.
I just took my largest whitetail buck (a nice wide 8-point, you don't see many big bucks in my part of West Virginia) this past season with my 270 Winchester (Remington 700 ADL with laminate stock).
It shocks me how many folks fall for marketing. The 6.5 creed is a perfect example. Nice round? Sure. But same thing as 6.5 swede....260 rem....and a few others. Same with a bunch of new rounds out, but 270 win is still hard to beat
All that and not a single mention of the 270WSM. It's a fantastic cartridge! Compared to a 6.8 Western within reasonable hunting distances (400-500 yards), the WSM with a 140 or 150gr bullet carries more velocity, more kinetic energy, and has a flatter trajectory than the Western. The only advantage a 6.8 Western has is the ability to shoot more aerodynamic bullets, which a shooter doesn't even truly begin to benefit from until you're outside of a reasonable hunting distance. The 270 is a great cartridge. The 270WSM is a better version. The 6.8 Western was designed for the bench, not the woods. It is practically the middle child between the 270 and the WSM ballisticlly when only considering practical hunting distances. Now, having said all of that, I love the channel and all the content! Thank you, and hunt honest and shoot straight!
My dad and grandpa owned and operated an outfitting business in the Hoback area of Wyoming for 30 plus years. I inherited both of their Elk rifles and the 270 was the “big” one! They hunted and killed numerous elk with a 257 Roberts and a 270 Winchester (both Pre 64 Model 70s). Currently, my cartridge of choice is the 7mm PRC so I am not saying there is no reason to carry anything larger than the 270, but no matter how much we would like to get around it there is no substitute for practice and precision shot placement.
Just a note for those of us at higher altitude. You can stabilize heavier, longer bullets. Reloading Weatherby has several videos detailing how the longer bullets, such as the 165 ABLR, are able to be stabalized in a 1:10 twist barrels. Faster twist is better across all conditions. But if you're a reloader at higher altitude, you can do some experiments for your old 270. The older cartridges are not obsolete even at longer ranges. They just need an update and they can equal or even outdo the new stuff.
Bought me a new 1984 Sako fin bear deluxe,in .270 Win. To calibrate our 40yrs together,I"m switching from 150gr. to 130gr. this year.See if they live up to their reputation.lol All the Best.
I had a Winchester Model 670 in 270 Winchester that shot 10 shot 1 hole groups at 100 yards. It was the plainest looking rifle that I ever owned but what a shooter it was. I had a Bushnell ScopeChief 2 1/2- 8 power scope with Command Post on it with Weaver mounts and rings.
I have a 270 Winchester that my Uncle Bob gave me , I am 74 years old. Back in the day I reloaded this with the Barns MRX which was the finest bullet ever produced. I purchased all the MRX I could find when they discontinued them. And still have 150 bullets in the 250 gr which I have loaded my 338 WINCHESTER Ruger bolt action stainless and a used 340 Weatherby I bought and put a Carlson stock with a Vortex scope. My Son who lives in Alaska shot an 800 lb Alaska Brown Bear with a Remington in the 300WSM firing the 180 gr MRX , all the times the MRX was a one shot kill.
When my brother and I were young, dad bought us our first deer rifles. Me a Rem 700 270 And brother a Rem 700 30.06. I'm 55 now and STILL take it out of the safe and and shoot often. Something about this old rifle ......Will NEVER get rid of her
I inherited a 1980s model remington 700 BDL in 270 a few years ago. Beautiful gun, looks to be almost unused, and i immediately threw a sig scope on it, and bought the cheapest Herters 270 ammo i could find. Haven't taken any game with it, but that gun is very accurate, and doesn't kick bad for not having a recoil pad. I plan to use it almost exclusively the next few deer seasons. And probably black bear seasons as well.
Thanks, as always, for your content, Ron! I’m a hunter in Switzerland and just got a .270 for hunting ibex and chamois in the Alps … as well as red deer, roe and wild boar! The issue here is that hunters must use a minimum caliber of 7mm. Hence a 6.5 is off the table. Nevertheless, your videos convinced me the 6.5 doesn’t have significant advantages over the .270. Moreover, hunters here are also required to take their shots within 250 meters.
My dad was a Jack O'Connor fan, and my dad loved the 270 win. He reloaded his own ammo for it and shot more deer than i will. By far, he had a jc Higgins rifle before going to a Browning bar. He's been gone 33 yrs.now.I still have that rifle and added a few of my own my prize one is a 1950 winchester model 70 270 it shoots everything herters,fedrals,winchester, hornady, norma tight groups. I have many calibers, but that 270 rifle is the best .
My last rifle purchase was a Benelli Lupo .270. Living on the East Coast I have not had an opportunity to take a shot beyond 200 yards and would not even attempt a shot beyond 300 yards or so. I know my limits.
My late wife had a 270 Winchester. I reloaded for it, and it was the absolute most accurate rifle I ever shot. I haven't hunted since she died.
My condolences. Perhaps your wife would smile down and be happier if you went out hunting again? She wants you to be happy and enjoy things.... maybe even in her memory. God bless.
@@C.D.-tz6sk Thank you, my friend. I've thought of it many times, but so far I haven't tried it. Maybe this season coming up......
I hope you get back out in the field trust me I took many years off, now I'm back out again its made me happier🙏
One day at a time bud...you will know when you get out there. Just remember our loved ones that have moved on want us to thrive and be happy. @@ronlafitte6864
@@ronlafitte6864find a young person that wants to learn but doesn't have anyone to teach them. I always wanted to hunt but nobody has ever taken me. It would mean alot to the person and it will make you feel good 👍😊
Love my 270. Taken mule deer, antelope, elk and moose. Never taken more than 2 shots, and never lost an animal. All under 400 yards. Thanks for sharing.
What load do you use on elk?
@@Bushman_sam My Browning x-bolt loves the 140 gr Nosler ballistic tip. I am able to get 3/4" groups all day. It is heavier than the 130 and still shoots pretty flat. My plan is to start reloading and try either a Nosler 165 grain Accubond long range or the Nosler 150 grain Accubond. We will have to see which one my gun likes.
Which rifle?
Any bullet,weight that you can put in the boiler room,this focus on which, what, weight etc is nonsense.
Just know where it hits in that 6-10" lung size, how do you do that?, shoot lots it'll show you where it hits, you'll feel confident.@@Bushman_sam
@@johac7637 You've got it all wrong my friend! These days deer, elk and moose are made of Kevlar and stainless steel, why if you shoot anything less than a 300 ultra mag, you could get badly mauled by a woodchuck. In all seriousness, thank you for talking common sense.
I saved up summer money and bought myself a Weatherby Vanguard .270 late 80's. I was 17. My non hunting parents thought I was crazy. My buddies were envious. I can remember showing it off to my football coaches at school.🤣🤣
When school meant learning.
As someone who just graduated highschool in 2022 it's a shame I never got the opportunity to bring my rifle to school and compare it with my buddies, learned more valuable information our of school than in it though haha, now I'm studying ballistics and developing skills in gunsmithing and design
I took my
270 to Africa after the warthog and Impala. I brought my .338 for kudu and backup for my friend who was determined to get a cape buffalo with his .416 Remington. Little did I know that a trophy kudu would pop up when I was lightly armed with my Remington
270 and lowly 130 gr nosler partitions. Well I'll tell you what, at 110 yards that lowly .270 with the lightweight 130 nosler partition bullet went through both lungs, the heart and then the liver as it finally came to a halt in the off side hide. I dug it out with my 2 inch pocket knife 🔪. Everyone was pretty impressed. Many big game hunts later (30 yrs) my trusted. .270 Remington never left my side. .338, what's that?
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The good ol' days. Glad you forged your own path even though your folks weren't into hunting.
That .270 they show is actually beautiful. The front yellowish part of the stock actually complements the entire wooden stock. Beautiful work.
Lot better than plastic, IMO
Well, as long as deer and elk haven't developed countermeasures, it's still relevant.
Great comment. 😂😂
Exactly. New and better equipment does not make old equipment any worse. Yes, some advancements can make older equipment obsolete because it’s not used. However, I still hunt with a Flintlock. Carbon composite stocks are more weather resistant than Woodstocks. I would much rather have a Woodstock on my hunting rifle. Better does not mean necessary.
Well said!
I just imagine them slowly evolving into something similar to a armadillo but with antlers
40 years I’ve had a couple a bsa monarch and a tikka I’ve had so many different cal rifles over the years .but I only confidently deer hunt with my 270.it allways puts dinner on the table .never found any think can do anything better. .
Go easy Ron. I love my 270. Win
Pre64 Mod 70 was, is, and will always be the greatest hunting rifle ever made. You have a fine specimen there. The 270 will still be here after all the newness and "can't find ammo for it" wears off and people come back to their senses. And it will happen.
Very true and when hunting stuff to reload with it is extremely expensive for the odd ball calibers. I was going to buy a 28 Nosler years ago until I started pricing casings it's a great rifle just not that great 65$ for 25 empty casings get real
@@davidsignor7931 Holy cow !! How much is a box of commercial ammo for that thang?
@easttexan2933 when I priced empty casings a box of 20 loaded rounds was 60$ doesn't make sense to me but I saw enough to know that I didn't need that caliber
My brother in law had cancer and didn’t make it unfortunately. He had a savage 110 in 270 that I really just loved. It wasn’t anything fancy only thing he did to it was had a new recoil pad on it and a nice leather ammo cuff. The gun just was so accurate I couldn’t believe it. I think he bought it at the pawn shop years ago. When he passed my sister told me he wanted me to continue to hunt with his rifle and eventually teach his son the joys of the great outdoors. This fall will be my first season using it and I’ll have my nephew with me as well! Wish us luck! The 270 isn’t going anywhere because it’s just a great super versatile round.
Best of luck to you and your family 🍀
I live in sweden after listening to Ron and given the opportunity I bought a remington 700 lefty in 270win and I love it much better then my old 308w 😂
I'm a lefty also. 270 still my favorite but I have 2 custom 308s ready for pick up. I'll have three 308s all built to my specs. I sold my custom Sako 308. I have seven 270s and more in process
@derekmcmurry4263 super Nice in sweden we are alowed to own 6 weapons so to have a 270win and a 308w would not be possible they are to similar 🤯
Yeah 270 win really out does 308 once you get past 250 yards with flatter shooting to boot.
Why the hell does any person own 7 of any caliber hunting rifles? Must be rich af@@Accuracy1st
@@marcussvensson93176 guns. Hmm. 5.56 m4, 380 Ruger LCP Max, 870 pump 12 gauge, 22lr, .270, AR-10 308.
The 270 has been and will be an awesome open country cartridge.
EDIT: I really liked the story about inheriting a rifle that has a sentimental story.
I inherited my Dad's 270 Winchester custom rifle.
@ If it shoots accurately, don’t hesitate to hunt with it.
Jack O'Connor, who said that the 30-06 was the cartridge against which all other cartridges were judged, because it was the standard spent years extolling the virtues of the .270.
I would say that the 30-06 is even better than it was int he past. First we have traditional bonded bullets, partitions, A-Frames and the like. On top of that solid coper bullets have gotten so good that you realisticly shoot 130gr. to 168gr. and use the added velocity to your advantage. Generaly traditionaly for the last 30 years I have been very much against 150gr. bullets in 30-06 and 300WM but with the advant of such fantastic solid copper bullets the case can be made especially int he 30-06 for the use of lighter bullets with out giving up anything! The 30-06 can sling a 130gr. solid copper bullet well over 3000fps.
If the 30/06 and 270 were favourites of Jack O'Connor, they are mighty fine by me too!
@@buckaroobonsi555308 can to 👍🏼
Jack OConnor, never reported how many animals he lost shooting an under powered 270, …when I was guiding Deer and Elk, clients were not allowed to shoot beyond 150yds if they carried a 270 win and if they went against me and wounded an animal they were done hunting and returned to base camp or hauled out of the woods
@@bobcowan1943 your full of crap yeah .270 underpowered for deer and elk. Check yourself.
Unless the deer got a lot tougher recently, the 270 still works just fine.
Well said!
😂
Love my 270 Weatherby!
Thanks for the video! I have gotten my 1in10 twist 270 to shoot the 165 ABLR extremely well. I've taken it out to 800 yards with a lot of success. My friend has loaded the 170 gr Berger EOL in his 270 with a 1in10 twist. He gets great accuracy and has taken it to 1000 yards.. He gets 2840 FPS with it as well.
The reason it works is because we are at higher elevation. Other RUclipsrs have tried it at around 1400 feet with their 270WSM and get great results with the 165 ABLR.
🕵️♂️ Austin, This is WHY Your Channel and Other Small Channels Like Yours - That Aren't on Someone's Payroll and Reading Their Talking Points and Actually Own The Cartridge They Are Reviewing - Is So Important! Thanks For Correcting Some of The "Mis-Information" Being Spread Here! 🥳
Did you lengthen the throat for the longer bullets? I have an 8 twist 270 that’s throated for the heaviest. I’m getting 2940 fps with the 170 nosler ballistic tip. It averages half minute groups at 100 yards. I haven’t had the chance to stretch it out yet to see what it really does yet.
@@gsnicholas8522 No, I seated the 165 at 3.372". I only have a 22" barrel. My velocities are nothing special.
@@ReloadingWeatherbymy barrel is only 23 inches. The longer throat gives quite a bit more usable space for powder. Also, I’ll add that I used reloader 26 to get my results.
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270 is still my favorite cartridge.
I seen a goat killed at 660 yards with a 140 grain Hornady sst 270win.savage rifle. Pretty good for outdated caliber.
Outdated cartridge, not caliber. New cartridges are still coming out in n the caliber so the caliber being outdated wasn’t even the question.
I have ALWAYS said & ALWAYS will say that the 270 is the middle of the ROAD (Caliber) that will work for ANY & EVERYTHING
I think you mean .30-06 friend.
@@LeatherSoup-c5j30-06 has been slowly dying for a while now. 270 has been more popular then the 30-06 for a few years.
@@LeatherSoup-c5ja 270 is a 30-06 neck down 👍🏻
@@slinger1237 Yes it is. And doesn't have quite as large diameter bullets as a result.
@@LeatherSoup-c5j shoots straighter and faster though
I've had my model 70 for over 45 yrs. She's a tack driver. You'll be prying it out of my cold dead hands.
May I ask directions to your plot?
@@yep-sb4uf they'll probably leave me in a ditch alongside the road. 😁👍
I have the same rifle. It is very accurate. I used it in Idaho successfully on Mule deer. My son used it for several years in Alaska and took several caribou with it. I traded a Remington Model 700 .300 Win mag for it straight up. Got tired of the .300 beating the crap out of me every time I shot it. This was before ported barrels/muzzle breaks. Do not regret it one bit.
The 270Winchester is a great one 👍
My brother in law walked into a Sears in the early 70’s said he needed a rifle. Salesman handed him a 270 in a Ted Williams (mod. 70). Never failed to bring home deer and elk for 30 plus years. With open sights. In his 50’s he switched to a 06 with a scope.
Thank you for putting this collaboration together, reinforcing the love for the 270. Two of my favorite voices on RUclips.
I started hunting in Montana, and I opted for a 270 over the 30-06 because it shot a little flatter. I used that rifle for a long time until I switched to the 7mm-08 for the ability to shoot slightly larger diameter projectiles out of a short action rifle.
It’s all about the short action. Duh.
You made a beautiful stock. Imperfections make it even better! I love watching you guys. Such great information by two very experienced and humble men!
I’ve thought that maybe I should have a 270, as a SHTF backup. Ammo is everywhere.
I have 2 rifles in the 270 win with 2 other 270 win in the shop being built from old mauser actions. I collect rifles and the 270 is one of my favorite as it was Jack O’Conner favorite too but my favorite is the 30-06 followed by the 300 wsm. 60+ years of collecting reloading and hunting and a man can never have to many rifles, those 8 rifles in the shop being built and having about every cartridge in my collection at one time or another! What made the 270 is when the scopes came out and made the 270’s extra reach available and that’s when Jack really started liking it because the 270 came out in 1925 and didn’t even make much of a splash until the Redfield snd Leupold scopes came on the scene!
I bought my first rifle when I was about 12 years old. It was a 270 Remington model 700. My dad’s buddy sold it to me so he could buy a 7mm-08 for disabled kids to shoot for Catch a Dream. I’ll never let that one go. It’s one of my 3 primary whitetail rifles.
300yds. Is my personal limit. All I hunt is whitetails and all I use is the 270 win. or 7mm-08 rem. Couldn't be happier. Thanks Ron. Great info.
My dad took a lot of elk in Colorado in the 60s with a Winchester 98 with a Mauser action in 270. Still have the rifle. RIP old man.
Pre-64 model 70 featherweight, my favorite. Has a redfield 6x scope. Has never failed me. I have a partial labrum tear so don’t get to shoot it much.
Pre 64, 270, 6x fixed, I like the way you're keeping it old school and simple.
I just picked up an XPR Hunter (True Timber Strata) in 6.8 Western topped w/ a Vortex Crossfire II 6-18x44 scope. I absolutely love it. Ammo isn't cheap, but I'm thrilled we are still able to find it. It seems the 7 PRC hasn't served the 6.8 the death sentence just yet that people had predicted! I hope we can keep it alive, i really do love the cartridge. Along w/ the original 270 Winchester. Both great cartridges.
All the points for and against were all valid. But I'll still stick with the 270 for staying power; it's cheaper, more plentiful, and if things become scarce, I can always make brass from 30-06 or other 30-06 family of cartridges.
I love my 270
I’m young but an old soul or so iv been told. That being said I own many rifles but my 3 main cover all the bases rifles for North America are .243win, 270win, 300win mag. I reload for them all and have 100% confidence in all 3 calibers to do anything I need from varmint to all medium and big game on our continent (not that iv hunted grizz/brown bear) but we all know a 300win has done it. Now my age (37 years young) but my passion for “classic” calibers keeps me content with the tried and true offerings. Also with that age comes my insight into new and “improved” offerings. If I was to revamp my 3 main rifles I would honestly say the 6mm creedmore in place of 243win, 6.5prc in place of 270win, and 300prc in place of 300win mag. I’m set in my original choices but those 3 new cartridge designs would be my modern choices for all. All imho of course. Cheers from a Canadian hunter and shooter 🍻🇨🇦👍🏻
I have one of Bob Shapel's last firearms he built before his unfortunate passing, a Military Mauser 98 action with a Traister MK II safety in an incredible Bishop stock, chambered in .270 Win. My bang around .270 is a 1952 M70 standard grade and my Wifes' Elk rifle is a 1949 M70 WCF in a Reinhart Fagen Sportsman stock. They all shoot 3/4 to1 MOA when we do our part.
I love all of the 06 case cartridges, so versatile and effective!
I absolutely love listening to you guys.
There is no other rifle that makes that sound like the action on a pre64 model 70 action. Music to my ears. Strong and solid.
I shall always own a .270Win. My first was a Tikka LSA65, and shot from 130gr to 165gr really well. My second (current) is a Howa 1500, and it shoots 140gr to 165gr very well. It is finicky with 130gr loads. I am on my last box of old 165gr Sako Hammerheads, and have developed a new “permanent” load with the 140gr Viper mono-metal bullet, called the Plains Supreme.
I’ve shot from as small as Rock Hyrax to as large as Giraffe with .270Win.
These days I am feeling more dated than the .270Winchester.
Also that was an absolutely beautiful .270 Winchester he displayed in the vidio !!!!! Wow !!!
I just restored a 1960’s Sako Finnbear in 270. Bought it at a pawn shops for $600. My first 4 loads were all sub-moa. It’s now officially a keeper. Nosler 150 gr Ballistic Tips all the way. Great video Ron!
That is EXACTLY the rifle I was allowed to borrow from and old fiend who worked up some handholds that cut under 1/2 inch at 100 yards and was the most beautiful rifles Ive ever seen and the most accurate. I now own a 7mm Sako Finnnbear.
I am a bit on the old side now and I struggle with the "modern" cartridges. I moved from UT to TX and then to AK and the 270 continues to perform flawlessly. There are some other ancient cartridges i enjoy as well such as the 300 Weatherby, the 308, the 7mm Remington, and the 45-70 but the 270 is an all around great choice for many game animals
A .270 Win is still a superb round, and so many of the rifles chambered in that historic round are still around and shoot great.
Love you two guys! Always the best information, stories, program for hunters and shooters when you both are together. Always so glad when you have Joseph on. My father gave me his Remington 721 in .270 to me before he passed away. Of all my different rifles, that .270 is special to me. It was dads, and it’s my go to rifle. But I always love the information you both share on new modern cartridges. Thanks again, and stay safe.
now that is a riflemans rifle! bravo! well done and beautiful. I purchase the Wichester Supergrade in 270win because i wanted to have that classic rifle. with todays modern ammo its plenty capable out to 500 yards on elk.
I never owned a 270 , my first rifle was a 30-06 for a long time, but for some years now it's been 300 WSM, 7MM Rem Mag, and now 7 PRC
Glad to see it Vice-versa. Love seeing y’all make points and discuss these topics. Thanks for the page.
Wow!!!!.....you two kept it totally honest !!!!...kudos to you excellent vidio !!!...if it worked that good for that many years,,,well why wouldn't it work today !!!!
In 2018 I shot a Yukon ram measuring 41 1/2* with my Model 70 .270 Winchester. I used a fixed 4X Leupold scope and 130 gr Sierra handloads. I'm a Jack O'Connor fan. It still works.
Thanks for the video y’all I’ve been looking into the 270 win more lately. Y’all was talking about factory rifles with a faster twist rate Christensen new evoke rifle comes with 1/8 twist as well as browning. Thanks again for the video very informative y’all keep up the good work God bless
Fantastic video! Especially the end!
Great video on a great cartridge! I look forward to getting my first elk with Papa George's 270 and hopefully next year some plains game in Africa!
Great collaboration, I just love when you two get together on rifle and cartridge talks.
Terminal accent are the best game bullet made. I've never seen a bullet hit that hard n give a pass through also. TA brings the best of all worlds into one bullet.
While i agree the terminal accent are a great bullet, there are plenty of others that do the same exact thing.
@@jaydunbar7538 ok so name 1 then?? that's a solid copper shank w a bonded &tipped frontal half?
I like Ron and Joseph.......together 😮😮😮😮😎🤠😎🤠
I think everyone misses the point of the 270 Win. you can carry an ultra-light rifle with a 22 inch barrel, get 3268 Fps. out of a 130 grain bullet, have the recoil, just at or just under the 30-06, and can kill anything on earth minus dangerous game. if you get a custom break down rifle, with two barrels, you get 2930 Fps. out of the Berger 170 grain bullet. Which is right at the 6.8 Western performance so why would I get anything else??? Now I am older now, and with the under performing ammo out there I would stop at Elk, and below for the 270 Win. Great Show.
Ya I think he was a little low on the speed that can be achieved with the 270! The 130 can get 3,200 with not much work!
@@edwardabrams4972I can get 3,100 easily but have never reached 3,200.
What powder, brass, and bullet are you using to get 3200+ out of shorter barrels? R-26 is by far the fastest powder I've found for the heavier bullets, and R-16 does seem to get near 3200, but in my experience, using the highest-capacity brass, trying to get to 3200 with a few different bullets got me ejector marks in a couple different guns.
R-26 for me is by far the best powder I have used in a 270 Win. Brass, Alpha Munitions, Norma, Lapua, but those will cost you. Honestly, you want a 270 Win. with a 26 - 30 inch barrel, in such a case you can get higher fps. or can get the same fps. as a shorter barrel but will longer burning, and less powder, which equals to longer barrel life and less recoil and recoil vel. Sadly everyone makes a 22 or 24 inch barrel. Over the years I have noticed for longer shots, a 1/9 twist barrel is ideal for the 270 Win. I think Browning is offering 270 Win. with such a twist rate now. What I would do is get some Hornady Superformance ammo in 270 Win. , and find out what out what you get in your rifle, that will give you a bench mark for what kind of fps. you can get from your rifle.
Another solid one. Great video Ron
I have applied many times for an out of state tag for moose in Maine. I was lucky enough to draw it twice. I loved hearing Mainers talk about hunting in the big woods for these incredible creatures when I hunted in Maine. The old timers hang in there with the classic cartridges - mostly 30-06. There were two old timers that spoke about the virtues of the 160 grain Nosler Partition in their 270’s. They have both taken moose as hunters and helped other hunters anchor their moose when they were guides. Know your firearm, practice, and match your projectile with the game - the 270 Winchester will not disappoint. One of the greatest American classics…. If you fancy the newest & greatest, that’s one thing - if you love the history & heritage of hunting, there is no better. Thank’s Jack.
I have been enjoying your channel for a couple years now, but this is the first one I felt inclined to comment on.
At the age of 12, I purchased my first rifle, a Rem 700 in 243 Win., a great cartridge for California. That would have been 1970. Right after my 18th birthday, my grandfather gave me his shotgun and rifle, a browning A5, and a browning semi auto in 270 win. It had a carbine length barrel and the serial number said it was made in 1959.
I hunted many years with it,a great rifle for everything that California could throw at it.
I shot it at the range out to 500, but my longest hunting shot was a little over 200. Performed perfectly.
Your channel always seems to bring back memories.
Thank you for all the great info.
Rugar m77 boat paddle stock in a 270 best rifle i ever had.
That's what I'm still rocking
Wanna sell it? I've been trying to find one for years.
My dad had a .270 custom built in the early 90’s which he gave to me as my high school graduation gift. It’s a work of art. It’s got a walnut stock with a right handed cheek rest with a thumb hole, it has a marathon barrel with the original grouping page from when it was tested in Spain and a Mauser action bolt. That rifle has taken whitetail and mule deer in Texas and Colorado and to the best of his knowledge and my experience has lost only 1 animal, a wild hog in north Texas that a managed to survive a headshot, according to my dad. He’s always told me the same thing. “With good shot placement inside 400 yards you should never lose an animal with this rifle.” I know there are a ton of new rounds that can incredible things at 6,7 and 800 yards. But I really do believe that for whitetail, Mule deer, pronghorn, and elk, not to mention the many similarly sized exotics we have in the US now; the .270 is a top 5 cartridge choice when considering price, ammo availability, and functionality. It’s withstood the test of time and is still a phenomenal round.
270 win is the MAN!!!! All you need. Everything else is marketing.
I have a Tikka T3X 270 (1:10 twist) mounted with a fixed power 6 x 42 Schmidt Bender. The reticle is rock solid. I shoot exclusively Hornady Superformance SST 140 gr. and zero'd at 200 yds (6" drop at 300yds). I use a range finder and know my ammo ballistics, so can shoot with confidence out to 400 yards. Most game I shoot is within 300 yards. I prefer a neck or head shot as the game drips like a rock without taking a step.
Have you taken any elk with the 140 gr SST?
I've honestly never hunted or even shot with a .270. Growing up in Oregon the first gun that I hunted with after I passed my hunter safety course when I was twelve was my grandfather's old .300 Win Mag and my first rifle that I owned was a 7mm Rem Mag. Now I live in Florida and have a .243 which I figure is more than enough gun for the game that I'll be hunting here.
It's still relevant. Granted, most of my long-range success has been with antelope. I have taken antelope at 659 yds, 526, 450, 437, 359, all with a 130 gr hornady interbond hand loads. I've taken deer at those yardages, too. Took an elk, too, but that was only 45 yards. It's accurate and deadly.
The good old 270 is a favourite cartridge of mine too
I’ve got a 6.5 Creedmoor but I am a big big big big big 270 Winchester fan. Thanks for the great video.
IMO 270 is a PERFECT 'all around use' cartridge. Even the 130grs are within 200-300 ftlbs of a 180gr 30-06 at any distance so a deer or antelope will never notice and that 150gr accubond or 145gr eldx from a 270 is basically the same or MORE energy than the 180gr '06 so you are good to go for elk BUT you get a flatter trajectory than the '06.
Like that Stormy Kromer hat brother.
got a custom 270 being built with a 1/8twist barrel on a rem700 action cant wait for it to be done
My first hunting rifle, a Winchester model 70 in .270 is still my primary deer & elk rifle.
I finally replaced the original Burris 3x9 scope a couple years ago. I love watching this channel and seeing all the cartridge comparisons. Sometimes I think of buying something new, just to get something new, but nothing is compelling enough. Maybe the 6.8 Western, if I had to pick something different. At one point, I thought well maybe I’ll just buy a new .270 model 70 with a new contemporary synthetic stock. Come to find out, they don’t hardly make them in .270. I called Winchester and they told me that .270 is just not a popular enough caliber. Haha. Ok.
What about cost per round vs other comparable cartridges
That’s far more about the ammunition you choose then the cartridge, you can spend anywhere between $30 and $300 on a box same as anything else.
@@jaydunbar7538from what I’ve seen an average box of 270 is much cheaper than any of the new PRC ammunition.
You two are great in your own right especially you Ron but together you project a riveting persona of firearm and ballistic knowledge.
I never shot a 270 but one day I got a bargain new rifle in 270. I could not resist. Bought it then took it hunting for Red deer and I totally fell in love with the 270 even though I dream of a 7mm rifle. However I have a personal dislike of short neck cartridges that most new 7mm come in. So for now I’ll keep going with my love for my 270.
First off, that is a beautiful rifle at 3:30
I love my Savage 110 (made in the late 1990s) with the classic wood stock, blued steel and a Leupold Vari-X IIc 3x-9x scope on top.
I also want to echo the point about ammo availability and the fact that if you walk into any gun store they’ll have a brand new .270 on the wall.
That classic “hunting rifle” look just makes me think about grandpa’s old M1903 .30-06 deer rifle, something about the blued steel, wood stock and classic scope just looks and feels right.
It loves the heavier 140-150 grain bullets and is zeroed with 150gr. soft points and it’s almost boringly accurate.
Fiocchi Field Dynamics 150gr. PSP, Winchester Power-Point 150gr., PPU (Prvi Partizan) 150gr. PSP, Hornady 140gr. InterLock PSP and many others including Federal “blue box” Power-Shok (130 and 150 grain)
I’ve got several boxes of
-Hornady Precision Hunter ELD-X 145gr.
-Federal Premium Berger Hybrid Hunter 140gr.
-Winchester 130gr. Deer Season XP
ammo burning a hole in my pocket waiting to be shot, with the rifle zeroed using the 150gr. Fiocchi soft points.
I’ve found that a 6cm elevation at 100m allows shots up to 300m with no correction. Complete peace of mind in terms of ballistics and ethics.
Beautiful work gentlemen
I grew up with hand me downs from my great grandads, and grandads, big surprise there growing up in a generational hunting family. I first had as a deer rifle which is probably no surprise and am sure many of you will say the samething. It’s was a Winchester Model 1894 .30-.30 manufactured in 1955. It was an anniversary gift from my great grandma to my great grandad. I was the only new gun he ever owned. When I turned 18 he gave his all around big North American game rifle which was an 03 Springfield chamber in .30-06 SPRGF which he bought second or even third hand like most of his other rifles, shotguns, handguns. He always told...son if you take care of this and take your time aim small, miss small this gun will get you anything in America!!! It had done just that for him, deer, mule deer, caribou, elk, moose, bobcats, mountain lion, black bear, grizzly, kodiak, antelope, wild hog, along with countless other sub species. To this day year in and year out these guns bring me great pleasure and joy. My papaw has sinced pass but I’m now the custodian of his entire collection and not get to pass down the heritage and fun to my daughter who just turned 10 along with other nieces and nephews. I also had several granddads who were into guns and was lucky enough to get some of those too. However my dad and my on grandfather are still healthy and able to hunt which is a total bonus for me because I’m still as a 40 year old man Am learning new things from. The Lord has blessed me and my heritage has blessed me as well.
I just took my largest whitetail buck (a nice wide 8-point, you don't see many big bucks in my part of West Virginia) this past season with my 270 Winchester (Remington 700 ADL with laminate stock).
I have one. Great stepson of the great 3006. 😀. One of many.
It shocks me how many folks fall for marketing. The 6.5 creed is a perfect example. Nice round? Sure. But same thing as 6.5 swede....260 rem....and a few others.
Same with a bunch of new rounds out, but 270 win is still hard to beat
Got Weatherby vanguard stainless 270 love it!
All that and not a single mention of the 270WSM. It's a fantastic cartridge! Compared to a 6.8 Western within reasonable hunting distances (400-500 yards), the WSM with a 140 or 150gr bullet carries more velocity, more kinetic energy, and has a flatter trajectory than the Western. The only advantage a 6.8 Western has is the ability to shoot more aerodynamic bullets, which a shooter doesn't even truly begin to benefit from until you're outside of a reasonable hunting distance. The 270 is a great cartridge. The 270WSM is a better version. The 6.8 Western was designed for the bench, not the woods. It is practically the middle child between the 270 and the WSM ballisticlly when only considering practical hunting distances. Now, having said all of that, I love the channel and all the content! Thank you, and hunt honest and shoot straight!
My dad and grandpa owned and operated an outfitting business in the Hoback area of Wyoming for 30 plus years. I inherited both of their Elk rifles and the 270 was the “big” one! They hunted and killed numerous elk with a 257 Roberts and a 270 Winchester (both Pre 64 Model 70s). Currently, my cartridge of choice is the 7mm PRC so I am not saying there is no reason to carry anything larger than the 270, but no matter how much we would like to get around it there is no substitute for practice and precision shot placement.
Just a note for those of us at higher altitude. You can stabilize heavier, longer bullets.
Reloading Weatherby has several videos detailing how the longer bullets, such as the 165 ABLR, are able to be stabalized in a 1:10 twist barrels.
Faster twist is better across all conditions. But if you're a reloader at higher altitude, you can do some experiments for your old 270.
The older cartridges are not obsolete even at longer ranges. They just need an update and they can equal or even outdo the new stuff.
Excellent video guys. 👍❤️👍
Thanks for this video. I've been looking at the 140gr TSX from barnes for my .270win. I will have to give it a try!
Bought me a new 1984 Sako fin bear deluxe,in .270 Win. To calibrate our 40yrs together,I"m switching from 150gr. to 130gr. this year.See if they live up to their reputation.lol All the Best.
Bear Creek recently came out with a long action AR platform in 30-06. Interestingly they also offer it in 270.
I had a Winchester Model 670 in 270 Winchester that shot 10 shot 1 hole groups at 100 yards. It was the plainest looking rifle that I ever owned but what a shooter it was. I had a Bushnell ScopeChief 2 1/2- 8 power scope with Command Post on it with Weaver mounts and rings.
come on man lol
Hahaha no way . One hole 10 shot is record breaking
@@Clayman5577he didn’t say how big that hole was, with enough rounds every rifle makes one hole lol
That rifle is a work of art. Beautiful.
I have a 270 Winchester that my Uncle Bob gave me , I am 74 years old. Back in the day I reloaded this with the Barns MRX which was the finest bullet ever produced. I purchased all the MRX I could find when they discontinued them. And still have 150 bullets in the 250 gr which I have loaded my 338 WINCHESTER Ruger bolt action stainless and a used 340 Weatherby I bought and put a Carlson stock with a Vortex scope. My Son who lives in Alaska shot an 800 lb Alaska Brown Bear with a Remington in the 300WSM firing the 180 gr MRX , all the times the MRX was a one shot kill.
Up here in northern Maine we consider the 270 a great girl and woman's gun and appreciate all it has to offer
It's an outstanding legend.
When my brother and I were young, dad bought us our first deer rifles. Me a Rem 700 270
And brother a Rem 700 30.06.
I'm 55 now and STILL take it out of the safe and and shoot often. Something about this old rifle ......Will NEVER get rid of her
I inherited a 1980s model remington 700 BDL in 270 a few years ago. Beautiful gun, looks to be almost unused, and i immediately threw a sig scope on it, and bought the cheapest Herters 270 ammo i could find. Haven't taken any game with it, but that gun is very accurate, and doesn't kick bad for not having a recoil pad. I plan to use it almost exclusively the next few deer seasons. And probably black bear seasons as well.
Thanks, as always, for your content, Ron! I’m a hunter in Switzerland and just got a .270 for hunting ibex and chamois in the Alps … as well as red deer, roe and wild boar! The issue here is that hunters must use a minimum caliber of 7mm. Hence a 6.5 is off the table. Nevertheless, your videos convinced me the 6.5 doesn’t have significant advantages over the .270. Moreover, hunters here are also required to take their shots within 250 meters.
My dad was a Jack O'Connor fan, and my dad loved the 270 win. He reloaded his own ammo for it and shot more deer than i will. By far, he had a jc Higgins rifle before going to a Browning bar. He's been gone 33 yrs.now.I still have that rifle and added a few of my own my prize one is a 1950 winchester model 70 270 it shoots everything herters,fedrals,winchester, hornady, norma tight groups. I have many calibers, but that 270 rifle is the best .
Thanks guys good advice.
My last rifle purchase was a Benelli Lupo .270. Living on the East Coast I have not had an opportunity to take a shot beyond 200 yards and would not even attempt a shot beyond 300 yards or so. I know my limits.
I've never heard anyone complain after being shot with a .270. That should put this inane discussion to rest.
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