Helldivers 2 Controversy - SONY's Biggest Mistake (UPDATE in Pinned Comment)
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- Опубликовано: 4 май 2024
- Sony is making a glaring misjudgment with the most significant PlayStation 5 hit of the year. It feels like a bait-and-switch, enticing players under false pretenses. Although there is a notice about linking accounts, it's easily overlooked because it wasn't mandatory, leading many players to either miss it entirely or assume it was an error or something Sony chose not to enforce.
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UPDATE: SONY has tweeted this! 🥳🥳🙌🙌🙌🙌
"Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward.
We’re still learning what is best for PC players and your feedback has been invaluable. Thanks again for your continued support of Helldivers 2 and we’ll keep you updated on future plans." - Playstation
Never mess with PC players
PCMR brought Sony to heel.
MAJOR ORDER COMPLETED.
New Major Order : Restore the Honour of Helldivers 2 now that Democracy is saved from the Tyranny of Sony. For Liberty, for Super Earth!
I LOVE DEMOCRACY! Let's start turning those reviews around Helldivers! They surrendered, and It's important to show that we have accepted their surrender and will cease fire. Animosity breeds animosity, so show none, but don't be foolish, remember what they did until they earn our trust back.
Let that sink in. You are not allowed to play game, that you've bought, because you live in the wrong country.
It's even worse. Remember the controversy surrounding the games anti-cheat, which basically functions like a root-kit? Well combine that with the PSN account and their TOS. It basically gives Sony unlimited accsess to all the data on your PC and the right to ban you if they, or their new AI pattent, don't like what they find.
On ps5 so I'm good but honestly how can Sony ruin this for everyone, I mean really arrowhead was killing it and I absolutely love helldivers 2 but if I were in the situation as pc players I'd be livid and people wanna defend Sony... I mean come on we had something good going here now look at it, I hope they revert it because this is gunna damage helldivers in the long run
@atat1578 it sucks that Sony players. The player count cut 80% on pc and make the order harder complete. I have a playstation, but I don't like their new banning system they are going to add. One bad word or make someone mad. Banned.
@@elitemook4234 good old games for the win.
And they only told you you're in the wrong country MONTHS later, AFTER they got your money and possibly even money from the warbonds if you bought them.
"Players need to get used to not owning games" -Ubisoft. That was just a warning for every company.
Thats the goal of all companies. From their daddies at the W.E.F, "youll owm nothing, and youll like it."
@@Aging_Casually_Late_Gamerthen I am no longer a gamer, or at least I'll stock to retro because there's so much to play for a lifetime
Companies just need to get used to not having customers
If buying a game does not mean I own the product, then Piracy is not theft
Players haven't owned there games long before Ubisoft said that. Consult Google.
Sony sold this game in those countries knowing they would eventually be locked out of the game.
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Nobody told the ceo. He has been fired. Here is a boilerplate apology and enjoy this illusion of superiority on us.
The Ceo got Fired :o no shot
@@user-vd5uq4uc9b wait, what? Which CEO? Sony or Arrowhead?
@@user-vd5uq4uc9b Yeah, what are you guys talking about? I haven't heard anything about anyone getting fired.
Stellar Blade and Tsukihime censorship and now, this. Three controversies of Sony, _in less than a week._ I… I'm actually impressed, to be honest.
Really does feel like they're making an active attempt to get a spot in Guinness Book of World's Most Depressing Records: Too Dumb to Live Edition
and that is JUST the gaming department, you also have to look at their movie/TV division and their appliances.
if there's a time to disband the California branch (by extension purging a majority being strangled by the current control board) and move SONY back to japan, now's the time.
It's not even a month yet 💀
Honestly this feel like Sony doing this because of the amount of lost due to Stellar Blade. Now they're trying to regain that lost.
@@BlazeGamerZX Stellar Blade is doing incredibly well. Not the game's fault Sony is a bunch of morons obsessed with garbage exclusivity.
Let this be a lesson, NEVER have Sony as a publisher.
What a garbage company and this isn’t even getting into Sony’s tendency to get hacked every other week.
I will swear by their PS2 Era and before tho, I miss loving my system for being a genuine good deal and investment.
@@Mrcharrio
It was when SONY's Playstation HQ was still in Japan.
They became scummy after their Playstation HQ moved to California.
Pedofornia @@YukitoOnlinefixed it for you.
If From Software didn't give Bloodborne to Sony, we'd have it on PC by now. Maybe even a sequel. They gave one of their most passionate projects to a publisher devoid of respect for them.
@@YukitoOnline Everything that moves to California is scum.
Trivia fact, in Japan people have been calling Sony, Kusony. A combination of the words Kuso and Sony. It roughly translates to Shit Sony.
KUsony, not kosony.
Well that was depressing
@@KeirnothVT what about to say that.... i thought it was KUSO
They have every right to be pissed at SONY. After all, Sony at one point in time was in Japan, making games for Japanese audiences. Now not only they abandoned them, they treat them like a joke by censoring and mocking their culture.
That's what happens when you have a branch in California.
Sony the company well known for being a very easy company to hack
have a feeling it's about to happen again................
Wish I knew how bad their security was before I got your data was compromised mail
I see you all over, dude. How’s things going?
I myself was one of those who had their data stolen in one of Sony's data breaches, which prompted me to contact them to have my account completely closed, as much as was possible to do. I for one have absolutely no desire to trust them with my data again when I have actively avoided their games, their consoles, and their influence for over a decade
The main reason I refuse to make any kind of account with Sony. I(and many others) have absolutely NO TRUST in Sony to protect my data when they've had massive breaches every few months.
I would like to quote one of the top reviews on steam about the game as it sums up how I feel about it too:
"I was so busy having fun that I forgot about corporate greed for a moment."
I feel that should be rhymed to that “Forgot about Dre” song from 1999 by Dr. Dre and featuring Eminem?🤗
“They was so busy having fun that they forgot about corporate greed…”😄
In this case its greed but a big issue in gaming is that people think any sort of income is greed. You work a job right? So you're just greedy? Well no because you have bills to pay and if they don't get paid the lights go out. Its the same for everyone. If they don't bring money in, they don't pay bills, game gets shelved.
So gamers need to learn the difference so they aren't freaking out everytime a paid item comes along. Instances like this, with Sony, don't help that because this just reinforces all the false claims of greed that people have.
@@Damaged7 I agree that people need to know the difference, but this is greed though, what Sony did. so it applies correctly.
You're correct that just because you make money doesn't necessarily mean your greedy, but on the flip side, having bills to pay doesn't mean you can't be greedy either. Neither of these are mutually inclusive/exclusive.
SONY literally just dropperd their "2nd Class Citizen/Player" List by doing this.
Welcome back to the land of suffering, people.
"I have a brilliant way to increase our PSN user numbers!"
"Offer cosmetics to players for logging in through our network?"
"That's small-brain! No, we're going to make it a REQUIREMENT to play at all!"
"I thought you said it'd increase our PSN user numbers!?"
"I didn't think they'd revolt after we screwed them over.. We've even lost support from the PS fans!"
"Quick! Reverse it! We can't let the game die!"
@@dreymak4071 the game is dead. Sony lied and then banned all countries that can't get a PSN account. Sony is not gonna backpeddle on this.
They are gonna double and triple down until the game dies completely.
Between triple a studios Killing succesful games overnight and High budget movie studios producing flop after flop, youd think these companies are allergic to profit
Only a portion of the people who have access to the game are even aware anything is going on. Most don't, because they don't concern themselves with anything beyond having fun with the game. Its a game, meant for fun, so they have fun, they don't go out of their way to be miserable.
This game can survive and it can live. It can also die, its up to the people. Stop acting like this game is dead, its not. If angry gamers want to devote their time to killing it then yes it will die and then you can blame them. I mean, it won't be hard if Sony already got the ball rolling right?
Well , nobody said that effective propaganda was cheap.
@@Damaged7 that depends, but the consumers are the ones with the final word.... not Sony.
The player drop would send a message, and a mp game can't function if there are no players
Someone forgot to say "careful Icarus" to Sony. Thats how we got here.
Fly too close to the sun, and you will be brought back down to Earth in due time.
I'm more impressed because of how easy it would have been for Sony to win a W with Helldivers 2 , they literally just had to do NOTHING and yet they couldn't even do that!
This is the kind of things that should get management yeeted without any sort of severance, because it shows just how malicious and incompetent they are to serve their customers.
Greed isn't one of the seven deadly sins for no reason
I was wondering what comes after pride?
BlackRock or Vanguard probably holds their balls in a tight squeeze so no chance of yeeting out incompetent management, nope. :)
@@crashwave299 ehm... pride month?! :)
@@Film_Sushi really funny one out there isn't it?
It's nice playing with you fellow Helldivers.
Time to put Negative Review and Request a Refund.
My Country is on the list of non-PSN Countries. (Philippines)
And SONY delisted my Country on Steam for the Helldivers 2 page.(Going to take some time for Steam to implement it)
As for why many people still playing, good guess is that they are the remaining players who'll play the game till the deadline set by SONY comes.
Expect the population to drop significantly once SONY fully implements the PSN requirement linking, you guys won't be seeing us from Non-PSN countries.
Rip my brother. We probably played together. It was damn good good time we had ain't. Really wish it didn't have to end like this but rest not, true democracy will still stand.
@@Sly9192
Damn good game only to be screwed over by the Publisher(SONY)
damn shame thank you for your service fellow diver RIP
@@dalej3981
o7
We will miss you and the other helldivers we are losing because of this. Sony might forget you, but this community will remember your service against the bots and bugs for years to come.
This is why piracy exists. Because companies acting like pirates, making piracy not only justified, but mandatory if you want to play the game the way it was intended. (For example, if you have a game with Denuvo, if you pay for it you're getting a worse game than you would if you pirate it, since Denuvo has been proven time and again to massively degrade game performance).
Reasons why people pirate: DRM hurts performances, Can't find old games anymore on stores, or common reasons it's money issues.
Or cases like The Sims where you can't have a decent gameplay without the thousands of DLCs
How does piracy exist to circumvent a live service game that loses half of its features including multiplayer when its cracked? Pirated multiplayer games are rare and you aren't going to find any that are replacing the live service element that Helldivers has.
@@Damaged7 Which that's the downside of playing a pirated game that you can't play multiplayer or pvp. Even if you could do it, you can't go against other players from other servers but you can only play with your friends on steam. So it's a win and a lose scenario if playing Helldivers 2 or any other pvp or multiplayer games.
@@Damaged7 f8ck multiplayer games. :) Normal guys play singleplayer, only millenial monkeys got used to multiplayer as something of a value, lol.
I smell some law suits coming up. AAA Companies and share holders really need to stop thinking they own and can swear up the games WE buy.
"Class-Action" lawsuit.
Legal Mindset already covered this and there's no way in any sensible metric this won't get sued for basically committing rugpull. That and Steam has to deliver refund in 177 countries (as of now) means GabeN will be involved with the gamers since chargebacks are VERY expensive at this scale regardless of the "discounts" those predatory payment processors offered.
@@defaulted9485people seem to forget 1 thing: money.
Do you seriously think anyone can realistically sue a multi billion dollar company? They will bleed you dry with great lawyers and suck more money out of you.
Rockstar did this with bra lady and may even do it again with the “gta 6 joker” crap.
Steam isnt even playing around anymore they are going to refund and then go after Sony because they are the primary publisher actually selling the game.
@thinksetsoup5790 Oh. You mean like another billion dollar company like Steam that has to issue these refunds on a massive scale that is going to end up costing them a ton of money?
Might be part of why Sony has already walked back the decision.
@@MechbossBoogie that still wouldn’t change the fact that suing them is extremely stupid. It’s like if you tried to sue Disney. It won’t even dent them.
I wonder if this could be a Bungie situation where arrowhead breaks away from Sony and try and regain the Helldivers IP
Lets hope it's not totally like the Bungie situation where Arrowhead then becomes the problem themselves.
Helldiver IP started with houseMarquis. They made the first helldiver
Sony owns the IP
They need to, or else they reputiotion will be destroyed forever.
Sony isn't going to let it go. But if Arrowhead goes indie, they will have my support.
Valve saw the shit Sony was about to pull and decided to forget the refund rule. Simply amazing.
Nope, tried 4 times, steam is NOT issuing refunds
Whoever told you that the Wii sucked clearly had their head on backwards.
Exactly I have nothing but fond memories of the console and it has some amazing games
Ohhh... I can't wait for Kotaku to blame the gamers for this somehow.
If that place is still a thing of the past or yesterday's news
Damn. I feel for those who bought the game on Steam and now can't play it because they don't have a PSN account. This should be a crime. I'm surprised Valve isn't honoring their policy on this matter. Yeah, I know there's a time limit for refunds, but this is a shady move by Sony. Other companies may follow in Sony's footsteps if there is no repercussion for this.
From what I have read, Valve is refunding people
It should be a crime because they modified the TOS without consulting the other party, but it's videogames where every company does it so no one bats an eye
It's even worse than that. Remember the controversy surrounding the games anti-cheat, which basically functions like a root-kit? Well combine that with the PSN account and their TOS. It basically gives Sony unlimited accsess to all the data on your PC and the right to ban you if they, or their new AI pattent, don't like what they find.
@@axhen I'm pretty sure that in most countries it IS in fact extremely illegal. Don't quote me on this but I think and from what I've seen what Sony did might include blackmail, false advertising, changing the terms of a contract without notifying the other party, fraud, breach of contract, scamming as they refuse to give customers a product they already purchased, damaging another parties reputation (Steam), damage to another parties income (Steam, seeing as their paying for the refunds out of pocket). These are the ones that seem to cover what Sony has done and good Lawyers would probably be able to nail Sony for all of them. But I'm not a Lawyer so don't take my word for it.
@@gerhardvancoppenhagen3608"in most countries it is in fact extremely illegal."
Hate ta break it ta ya darlin. Govs ain't gunna do a thang. What they gunna do is drop some gas your way and tell ya to take a big whiff of it as they count their Sony bucks on their flights outta here.
It's not that Africa has no access to the internet. All those countries have internet access already, they already were playing Helldivers and using regular internet in those places to begin with.
The caribbean has a lot of call centers and those things require a lot of data transfer. We are just "Bad business" to corporations
Ubisoft was right when they said we don't own games anymore. This is why physical copies of PC games need to come back.
Good luck with that, especially when that also require effort on people's part to keep their own backups.
People love their conveniences more than they do anything else. Why do you think CD Drives are no longer a standard on PCs, other than most modern games carry more data than any CD can hold.
Too many people hold more trust on the Cloud than they realistically should. But convenience trumps everything else, even the laundry list of cons.
@@strategicperson95then let people own the .exe files of their games.
Physical copies don't really matter if they demand an online connection to play.
This is why buying games should be optional, lol.
I lived in Manaus, a city basically in the middle of the Amazon rainforest, and yes, we have internet over there. We have big cities in the middle of the Amazon, and a lot of the small ones have internet due to banks or the army bringing to them. So yeah, we have.
Was searching for this comment.
I was like "I'm pretty sure that yeah, I would have an easier time connecting in Amazon compared to Africa".
@@braveagentg it's a common misconception about the area. Manaus is a really big city with a lot of industries, and it's in the middle of the forest. You can only get there by boat or plane. But it's still has everything
Neatherrealms did something similar to Russian players over something they had nothing to do with
On what exactly?
@@crashwave299Probably over Ukraine...
@@AzraelThanatos ok thanks for letting me know
Damn your the last person who I thought would make a helldivers 2 video a welcomed change!!!
I like how you tried to censor Asmond from cursing but you can still hear it 😂😂😂
LMAO
*faint beeping*
@@Alteori I went and made my own version of that availability map and while I did so I had a few thinks... the main commonality in the countries/regions is how committed they are to IP laws. Sure, there's limited internet access on Micronesian islands... so? that's on whoever lives there. If they don't have internet they can't buy the stuff online at all. But... what that really translates to is having few customers in those regions. But that's not a valid reason to block the entire region from buying.
Also seriously... the list includes Puerto Rico(which has full US citizenship), Greenland(which is part of Denmark, who aren't blocked), and several of the smaller islands in the British Isles.... yeah.... sense make does not.
I thought he was doing that himself lol I thought it was hilarious to listen to. “Well, you can say you censored it because you did, but we still heard it!”
It's even worse. Remember the controversy surrounding the games anti-cheat, which basically functions like a root-kit? Well combine that with the PSN account and their TOS. It basically gives Sony unlimited accsess to all the data on your PC and the right to ban you if they, or their new AI pattent, don't like what they find.
Kusony has gotten worse and worse since they moved their HQ to Caifornia, funnily enough almost 10 years ago. lol
I thought I'd found a nice social venue for once. I've only been playing for two weeks, and now everyone is going to be locked out or leave in disgust. Cue major depression.
You have the option to stay off youtube, or helldiver youtube videos at least and not engage in the negative cloud surrounding this game. You could disengage from any social media outlet that is fostering this negativity.
Then you aren't surrounded by negativity and you can play the video game and have fun. Is that not the better option here? You could play a game and have fun or you could not play it and be miserable. Its not a hard choice.
@@Damaged7 That's an option I could choose, but I'd still feel badly for all the people with whom I could be playing who bought the game in non-PSN countries and are now being effectively defrauded unless Steam grants them refunds. That's not something I feel like I should condone by rewarding Sony with my continued patronage.
Why depression? Find some other game, this is not the end of your life. Let Sony suffer for a change, lol!
Game is great. SONY, the publisher, shot itself in the foot and blames you for it
I mean they're just following the 2020s procedure
I bought the game on steam, played it for over 100 hours, talked with work mates about managed democracy and the fun we had in game. Today I requested a refund because in order to vote with my wallet, this is the way. Hopefully Sony recoils from the amount of refunds and decides things like this are bad.
It's even worse for them. Steam is the one covering the costs of refunds. So we can probably expect to see Steam drag Sony to court for lost revenue/reputation.
Nope, Sony takes a loan from BlackRock and doubles down on the agenda. :)
@@gerhardvancoppenhagen3608 Gabe truly is godlike.
Feel the joy of emulation. Playing ps1 and game boy color games on a game psp.
Honestly more and more I avoid all multi-player experience. Single play or couch co-op only
Sony decided HD2 was a little too successful lol.
Precisely. :) Activists smelled garlic - the fun all others had with the game. :)
My theory is that Sony found out HD2 didn't have a consulting team, so they had to sabotage.
It also doesn't have predatory monetisation, is reasonably priced and doing very well. Can't have that obviously.
Sweet Baby Ink undetected, thus - kill the game? Most probable, yeah. :)
First sony put stellar blade in a controversy and put shift up in a bad postion and now they completely decimate arrow head because of their stupid decisions, sony might be the worse publisher ive seen yet...
Between this and stellar blade, they’re really doing a number on their own PR.
They taught us to work together, thousands of players pushing towards a singular goal for Super Earth, an army of divers throwing themselves repeatedly into the depths of hell...Then they made themselves the target 😂
The game was so much fun and it's sad to see this happen. One of the few Multiplayer games I've legitimately enjoyed in recent years. If Sony doesn't course correct quickly, then I don't expect Helldivers 2 to survive. A true shame.
SES Princess of Midnight signing off
SES Wings of liberty is officially off duty. Farewell Helldivers
SES wings of redemption, signing off.
Meanwhile Palworld community managers being wholesome AF
The moral of the story is to invest in single-player games. There are just fewer ways to screw you over time if it's good from the start, with optional DLC if you want. Especially compared to live service games that die the moment they lose support from the company and player base.
Welp, Elden Ring, Baulder's Gate 3, Dragon Age Origins, Knights of the Old Republic I+II, Witcher Trilogy, Stellaris, Total War Warhammer 1-3, and some indy games, you still may still be my go-to for now.
I also include the Mass Effect trilogy, but you can't play it without logging into the EA account, as opposed to Dragon Age Origins and KOTOR I due to being made before EA acquired Bioware.
Bethesda manages it just fine. I had a game of fallout 4 that they screwed over with their "next gen update"
Oh, I assure you CAN play Mass Effect without logging into anything, lol! And since ME is one of my dearest, I should know. :)
its the whole streaming issue, you sacrifice ownership for convince. i dont recall what was said in response about these issues, but i think the response was "players should be comfortable in owning nothing." as an old generation gamer, this was insane and unsettling
Alteori: Sony made a massive mistake.
Me: agreed
when piracy sties have more honest legitimate business practices than a multibillion dollar megacorporation
This was done because of the game itself.
People loved it, brought many together to fight for one objective.
It also didn't cater to the modern audience.
So naturally Sony wants to steer the player base away from HD2 to "other" games where the fun level is brought down a few notches.
Cannot have gamers having fun.
Exactly!! 👍
They just didn't realize the kind of community Arrowhead cultivated. Sony chose the wrong game, wrong devs, wrong planet, to fuck with. We dive together, or not at all.
Not gonna lie, I'm not a diver but was planning to become one. This? This killed my interest, and gaming has already been dying as an interest for me.
Kinda did the same here but not only Sony KOed Helldivers but I'm also poor as fuck
The entertainment industry as a whole has really tanked in quality. Every major franchise is either dead or on life support. Then one new awesome thing finally comes along, and Sony just can't resist committing financial suic¡de. Literally all they had to do was sell a product and let people play it. And they couldn't even do that.
@@lumbagoboi1649 is like someone inserting Mr Krabs syndrome and begged to be bombed to the ground
It's a shame, once the situation on Super Earth is resolved I'd be honored to dive with you.
All we can do is leave our negative reviews and refund the game, that's how we can send a message to Sony on how they just F-cked up.
I'm like 75% that what Sony did is in breach of multiple laws. So you could probably drag them to court as well. Bit I'm not a lawyer so don't take my word for it.
@@gerhardvancoppenhagen3608 The problem is, they did warn us, and it was in the TOS. so while they did not enforce it, it was still there.
@@MyAramil They still knowingly sold it to people who wouldn't be able to use it after a set period of time without informing them about it. Plus from my understanding they changed the ToS without notifying the signing paties (the customer) which is also illegal .
This is against the law in Australia and the EU.
@@MyAramil Actually in Sony Official website TOS it stated less then a day ago PC games it was PSN WAS OPTIONAL for game to be played on PC they changed it within the last couple of days to now say “SOME GAMES MAY BE REQUIRED TO HAVE PSN”
2. All Sony games on steam say it requires PSN but it’s optional to put in details THIS IS THE ONLY GAME THAT HAS REQUIRED IT AND 3 MONTHS AFTER RELEASE
3. Other companies like Microsoft tell you as soon as you boot up the game put in login info for account or not play on Helldivers it said optional and you were allowed to skip passed the screen
4. Some lawyers have seen this and talked about this could be a class action lawsuit for Sony false advertising and breach of contract for changing TOS and policy without notice or anything the reason Sony had lost millions in the last couple lawsuits was from stealing money from AppStore from devs and data breach and the reason 170+ countries don’t allow PSN is they know they steal data and sell is in some countries they make you post a picture and I.D or Passport to make a PSN account
Welp... come June 4th Helldivers is gonna lose another Diver but till then I'll dive again and again and again and again!
They have an investors meeting a couple weeks from now. Pretty sure they did this to pad the numbers of PSN accounts considering it's one of their 10 top most sold games.
That's gonna be one hell(divers) of an investors meeting. I couldn't resist the pun.
Either Sony stop with this nonsense or the consequences are going to be even more fatal
that steam is disallowing the purchase in countries that you can't play it in .is a good thing on part of steam and they have started allowing refunds of helldivers as well.
In my experience Steam has been really good about this kind of stuff. It's not irregular for them to refund you if something bad happens to the game, even months after release.
Helldivers may have been one of the few examples we've seen of a fun game at a good price that's not hindered by a big company, until now. To some the backlash is shocking. But if you've seen what uplay origin and epic have gone through over the years, this kind of backlash is not only common. It should be expected.
ALL multiplayer games are traps, no exception.
Agreed. I survived all my life with pc only. No consoles, no multiplayer. Only monkey can get manipulated in a position to pay for something he or she doesn´t own. Lol.
Between this and the censorship of Stellar Blade and the Tsukihime Remake, all in a few weeks, it's like someone at Sony is trying to speed run financial destruction.
You know, it´s going to be cheaper to be bought by BlackRock after this for sure. :)
When I bought the game, I remember having the PSN as optional.
Now it has become mandatory, and I am having a dilemma of refunding the game because:
1. I am in one of the unfortunate countries for PSN/Sony to screw over.
2. I have invested both time(194hrs) and in-game purchases(35USD or 2kPHP) that I have no idea if it can be refunded fully or not.
3. Many people, even some from the Philippines weren't able to get a refund over 10 times.
I personally would have to wait for the best, but for the time being, all I could do is wait and see.
Gaming industry try not screwing up for 1 week challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
It is not just multiplayer. Some games require it for solo play
Diablo
Another eden the cat beyond time and space
So f8ck such games - simple, isn´t it? :)
"Whoever is running this company is eating an entire wedding cake through their ass" XD
It´s simply a pride month or something similar. Lol.
Fascinating shenanigans.
There is a legitimate anti-customer culture spreading in the corporate sphere, especially media, entertainment, and the web.
Even trying to bypass them entirely and get their money though tax payers or other businesses.
Just spent 12 hours over the last 2 days replaying KOTOR and just remembering how simple gaming used to be.
Unpopular opinion: people need to get comfortable with playing single-player games again. Does anyone actually get anything positive out of playing with randoms online? Any game with no reliance on an Internet connection cannot be fucked over by it's developer or publisher after its in your hands. My copy of _Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas_ is the exact same today as it was when I picked it up on release day 20 years ago.
Why unpopular? I totally agree!
I have never played online (meaning - where I´d need to pay), I have never even owned PS or X-Box. Why would I? So many games on PC that I can´t play them all until the end of my life. And idiots collecting films or music on digital platforms - well, serves them well. They don´t value their own money so I can only feel schadenfreude if they´re fleeced by corporations. Monkeys robbed by activists, it´s actually funny how dumb some people can be. :)
If purchasing is not ownership, then piracy isn't theft.
We play PC games to avoid needing Consoles to play, Sony wants to farm us PC players for PSN accounts and get more cash from forcing said people to by said console to even make said accounts
Yep, it sounds like a scam.
I just checked, and Helldivers 2 has racked up over 213 000 negative reviews on Steam since Friday. And with this now starting to gain traction outside of the normal gaming nerd sphere, I think this is going to kick Sony in the nuts not just in terms of Helldivers 2 sales tanking on PC, but also affecting any future PC releases they might be involved in, and potentially people who were considering getting a playstation for various reasons now reconsidering.
Personally I was really looking forward to Ghost of Tsushima finally coming to PC, but with Sony apparently making an effort to make me not want to give them money, I'm gonna nope out.
Good decision making on your part
ain’t buying a ps5 now
Only an imbecile will be buying consoles and PS games from now on, lol.
We're at 57% liberation on the Steam Frontlines now. Also I for one was planning on buying Stellar Blade and Ghost of Tsushima, but I won't be buying or playing anything Sony has its hands on until they backpedal on this. My Ps5, which was already just a dust collector, is now going to collect even more dust.
@@landonkam6727 so you´re just willing to pardon them if they backpedal? No offence but - are you a monkey falling for a trick of banana for free? :)
Their Steam page always said that you need a Play Station account, they just hadn't enforced it until recently.
Didnt know Sony dabbled with Bethesda and Ubisoft
Am sorry for Arrowhead
So Sony and Arrowhead knew Helldivers 2 would need to sign into PSN and never told anyone
So they let people buy the game even tho 170 countries do not have access to PSN
How is this Legal?
They let people buy the game for 3 months and said nothing knowing it would need PSN 3 months later
From my understanding it's not. They in all likelihood have broken multiple laws in God knows how many countries with this move.
It´s legal because oligarchy said so. :)
So, are we all supposed to hire a lawyer to read the terms of service every time we buy a game?
Damn everyone’s dogging on these guys huh?
Warranted.
Major win! Sony has walked back the mandate for PSN requirements! Democracy prevails!!!
I am glad you did good research there's some people attacking blindly with rumors and making this dumpster fire even worse
Company: Our customer's are happy. We must not be squeezing enough money out of them yet.
"If buying isint ownership, then piracy isint theft."
The policy doesn’t go into effect until June 4th. Arrowhead has said that they are working with Sony to come up with a way for people in those countries that can’t get a PSN but have already bought the game to be able to play.
Sony always intended for you to have to have a PSN to play. The requirements was always there on the Steam game page. They required it from the beginning, and Arrowhead knew for at least 6 months before launch. The Arrowhead devs decided to suspend the account linking because it was causing some technical issue. This whole thing feels like Sony realized the subscription numbers didn’t go up, and now that the technical issue is fixed they want it to be reinstated.
If it was always the plan for it to require PSN, then why sell the game in countries they KNOW people wont have the option to create one?
Then why did they allow the sale of the game to players who live in countries that do not have access to PSN? The company knew for 6 months that they wouldn't be able to play the game. You can't bait and switch to fluff up your numbers to make investors happy.
And if they allow players in countries that do not support PSN to play without an account, then why force other players to do so? Sony should be like every other company and buy customer information from google if they want it that bad.
If they knew. IF THEY KNEW.
Why did they sell the game in the first place to countries that cannot play it? To avoid drama?
It does explicitly state that it is required yes, but it's at the bottom left corner in small white text next to a QR code and a large yellow button with a yellow outline that says "SKIP". Not "skip for now", just "skip". They did not make it clear enough and that still doesn't explain them selling it countries they knew wouldn't have access to it.
It's tough having such a successful product as a developer under a crappy publisher who pulls the rug under you and it's customers.
My heart goes out to Arrowhead. Sony, you 🤬'd up.
Instead of blocking everyone who doesn’t have/want a PSN account, Sony should have just tried to incentivize Steam players to link accounts with PSN (like giving out free cosmetics to whoever linked).
God fucking damnit. 2024 started off bad, and then in came HD2, the one, singular, shining beacon in an ocean of slop and utter dogshit.
And then Sony killed it. It's like the entire industry just CAN NOT ALLOW US TO HAVE NICE THINGS AT ALL.
They can´t. They are allergic to us having fun just as the vampires are to garlic. Lol. Did you honestly think that activism was benign? :)
Your point about people using video games to relax and stuff and the Asmongold clip you used at the start of the video, Ukraine and Russia are at war right now and now the people there who wanted to play/were playing HD2 can't anymore.
You also can't use a VPN to make an account because it's against Sony's ToS (Terms of Service) so if you get caught doing that your account is banned.
People also don't want to link a PSN account because Sony has a history of being hacked. Someone listed some of the times they've been hacked in a steam review, this what they said:
"Yeah i'm not linking my account to PSN.
April 2011: Hackers Access Personal Data of 77 Million Sony PlayStation Network Users
May 2011: Personal Details on 25 Million Sony Online Entertainment Customers Stolen
June 2011: Sony Pictures Website Hacked, Exposing One Million Accounts
November 2014: Hackers Steal 100 Terabytes of Data from Sony Pictures
August 2017: Hacker Group Accesses Sony Social Media Accounts
September 2023: Sony Investigates Alleged Hack
October 2023: Sony Notifies Employees of Data Breach"
I looked at some of other Sony exclusive games that will be coming out this years, so I'm wondering if this will happen to them including Stellar Blade.
We dive together. Or we don't dive at all.
Solidarity. Liberty.
Region Lock bs at its finest.
I hope Arrowhead is regretting not going with Xbox in the first place.
Or even just going independent.
Sony owns the license for Helldivers. They couldn't make *this* game with anyone else, unfortunately.
Microsoft is worse if not as bad as Sony, they should go independent instead.
Did you finish reviewing invincible?
I noticed Åland islands on the list of non-PSN countries, Åland islands are actually a part of Finnish archipelago and not a country. Åland in Swedish or Ahvenanmaa in Finnish is an autonomous and demilitarized region of Finland, so it's a part of Finland even it has own flag. PSN works here in Finland, but somehow doesn't work in some part of Finland, I live in south-west of Finland so quite close to this supposed non-PSN "country" Åland islands, I could take a ship from the city where I live and where PSN works, to this mysterious non-PSN "country" Åland islands and suddenly I wouldn't have access to the PSN within the borders of the same country.
I didn't know u game alteori
As a FORMER HD2 player, do not buy this game. Is it a good game, yes. However the corpo greed that is being displayed right now is possibly criminal. I am currently on my 8th refund request and will continue until i am granted my refund.
I love how the opening is a video of a stream of a stream.
I loved playing this game for a few months now. Its honestly the best online co op ive ever played. But you got to have stadards somewhere and im not going to keep playing if Sony is going to force this.
Its a damn shame.
They reversed their decision! You won't have to create a PSN account now! Major order completed everyone! Great work!!
Come on, are you going to trust Sony again? Poke them where it hurts - in the money department. Otherwise you only deserve if they f8ck you again in the future. :)
Source?
Sent 7 request to steam for a refund and they keep denying me with 3 hours of game play. I've mentioned the new PSN change and how this would violate the CCPA as a Cali resident.
"we dive together or not at all"
Major Objective COMPLETE.
As and aside I just learned what the Harley Quinn show did to Mrs. Freeze. They gave her a tramp stamp and now she's hooking up with men everytime she's on screen.
Did you already react to this?
It seems like the writers deliberately shit on a loving monogamous relationship between Mr. Freeze and Mrs. Freeze. Where they both deeply committed to each other. And I know the Harley Quinn show isn't canon but it still does a massive disrespect to him and her's loving relationship by turning her into a massive h** who manipulates men (Bane) to do her chores and tasks.
I agree with you Alteori! This is why I mostly play single player solo games. Also why I still buy physical media.
Helldivers 2 is just living proof that we aren't anymore allowed to have nice things. Or anything in general
I love the David Attenburo bit. heh.
The region lock thing is basically a 1:1 reflection of geopolitics. Just think about the DVD region lock for a second and you'll realize who has control over who during that time period.
This is the main reason why I didn't play this game when I found out it didn't have a single-player offline mode unlike the first game that had one. That first game was made and ported over nearly every Sony console since it came out about 8~9 years ago, only going to PC as a non-Sony version. I do not believe the studio didn't know this was possibly going to happen given the recent news that Sony was moving to put more games to Steam and to incorporate the whole PSN account thing to Steam. It seems my guess was right.