I got my Red Rider in 1964. I saved a dime every week from my weekly allowance (a quarter) to get enough to buy it. It cost me $9.99. The look on that clerks face when I poured out my bag of dimes was priceless! We lived out in the country, so naturally I used it for hunting. It worked good on birds and would take a rabbit at close range with a head shot. But, squirrels were too tough, the BB would just bounce off! My dad said I should stick with my bow on the squirrels and that gave me an idea. We had some 6 inch long, wooden shaft Q-tips that only had the cotton at one end. They were for cleaning stuff. I found that if I sharpened the end without the cotton and pushed it down into my Red Rider like a muzzle loading rifle, it would shoot that "dart" just like an underwater speargun! I tested it for accuracy and found that I'd have to be within 20 feet to hit a 2 inch circle and that was good enough for a body shot on a squirrel. My biggest problem was getting within 20 feet of a squirrel that was sitting perfectly still and out in the open. Needless to say I didn't get many shots at squirrels, but I found the "darts" worked well on birds too when I ran out of BB's and the "darts" were reusable!
It's amazing what we did when we were kids back in the 60's. I think I'm probably about 4 to 5 years behind you. I don't think my dad wanted us to have bb guns, but I would have done the same thing with the Christmas Wish RR. The compass and sundial would have been great. I would have been taking that back on the strip mine roads into the CCC planted pine trees for a real adventure! We did things like that. Great time to grow up. Thanks for sharing such a cool story!
Enjoyed the video I've got 2 daisy's here that belong to my kids. I think dad threw mine away. Think I might have to do the up grade on these I have here.
I did this as a kid probably around ten years of age. Found a very old daisy in a friends barn almost unrecognizable but it was a daisy and the spring was in tact. My young engineering mind went to work as you just did and yes it was a feat to get the spring in and slide the top pin , especially at my age, However i got and boy o boy did that thing shoot! It would bust coke bottles and penetrate plywood for a short time any how as the trigger mechanism was too weak to handle that older thicker spring tension and that was it for that daisy. I soon aquired a Sheridan silver streak and never looked back😊 Great video and thanx for the memories 👍
Thanks for watching! Thanks for the story! Tinkering is always fun, but even better when one improves what is being tinkered on. Maybe one of these days, I'll get a Sheridan. They have some pcps that are a little out of my price range right now. But they look really nice.
Did training in Army basic training with Red Rider BB guns in the 1960s. Learned to hit Coke bottle caps pitched in front six or seven feet away while shooting from the hip. This was training to shoot the M-16 from the hip. Handy skill to have in Vietnam.
That's a great story! I re-looked to be sure, but the book I featured in the beginning of this video actually did mention that. There are several photographs of a line of Army recruits with helmets and LBE's shooting Daisy BB guns at Fort Benning in the 60's. They called that "instinct shooting" training. Glad it helped you out in Vietnam. By the late 80's, when I went through Basic, that was long gone.
I had a old daisy with no sights and I used it to practice shooting at washers with tape over the holes, didn't do very well at hip shooting but I did get pretty good at snap shooting from the shoulder.
Wonderful video! Liked and subscribed and thanks for the shout out. Good job on your Super Thumper, always glad to see folks moddin' thier Daisy's and showin' 'em off. You're right about the mainspring compressor tool, you gotta have a strong one!
Wow! Thanks Shane! I was already subscribed to your channel, and watch it often just to learn a little about some of these old Daisys. Your passion is contagious, so I am honored that you would subscribe to my channel! Oh, and thanks for putting out the video on how to make the tool; it was the only one with specific guidance.
Excellent video. I can appreciate you sharing the "don'ts" so that others don't make the same mistakes. Once again, your art work absolutely sets the bar. Incredibly realistic. Have a Merry Christmas homie.
Great video! I collect BB guns and air rifles and occasionally rebuild them if they are shooting soft. I have a daisy model 99 from the early 70s that still shoots in the 350 FPS range. So fun to shoot cans in backyard. It never gets old!!!! Merry Christmas to you and enjoy your new toy.
My Caldwell is no doubt more precise and trustworthy, but it only works in the sunlight. Last year I tried using puck lights to get it to work inside during the winter, and that turned out to be a failure. Let's hope this little one works through the winter, so I can test inside. Easy enough to convert mps to fps, even though it supposedly is supposed to work with fps.
Excellent results and great video that was fun to watch as usual. I upgraded my Red Ryder too, about a year ago, but I only installed the spring and not the tube thing. It made it a little harder to cock but it's not bad. Over my chrono it's doing around 330fps give or take a couple of fps. That's noticeably better than stock condition, but not as fast as if I had the larger diameter air tube like yours does.
The one I bought was the "Silver Package". I think I got it on recommendation of either a Restomod video, or North Pine Woods (i think that's the guys name) video. Have a Merry Christmas, my friend.
Hello Brian, just found your channel and subscribed! I love to modify my guns too. I have only done a few air gun videos but want to do more soon. Thanks for the video and have a Merry Christmas!
Well, hello there Blademan. I clicked on your channel. Subscribed. Looks like we are on the same sheet of music! I'll be checking out some of those videos, and have a Merry Christmas yourself!
Well, I'm in my 60's and until just two and a half years ago, neither had I. I've learned a lot since starting this air rifle channel. It's a lot of fun, shooting air guns, and you can go with the nostalgic bb guns, or all the way to the pcp air rifles. Thanks for watching and commenting!
great video! I may upgrade mine too. I got the cheaper $35 noname chrono that clamps on the barrel off amazon and it works great, no features but it reads every shot no errors. I see all the other utubers using name brand chronos getting errors half the time. Sometimes you cant beat cheap.
I like my Caldwell, but it has to have bright sun. As you also live in TX, you know that it gets a little cloudier and the days are shorter so testing outside can be problematic. I tried puck lights last winter, but they were way, way off on my Astra Cub video, so I decided to use this one for the winter. Hope it holds out, even if it gives me mps only. Weird that It requires my shop lights (bright lights) off. Anyway, you have a Merry Christmas!
The Red Ryder I bought at Walmart about ten years ago doesn't even compare to the one I had as a kid in the early/mid 70s. The new one barely broke 300 fps brand new. I have no idea what the velocity of my old one was. I do know the trajectory of my new one is much more of an arc than my childhood one.
I am pretty sure Daisy got a little scared when the government Karen (Consumer Protection Agency) tried to ban the Daisy 880 in the late Clinton years because it "was too dangerous." Cost Daisy a lot of money in legal fees to fight it.
I was just saying this since I bought I new one for me and my nephew. I went out side made sure it’s all ready to go out of box, threw some oil In it, adjusted the sight. My old one that I got back in 2009 would go through the tops and bottoms of aluminum cans, this new one only puts a dent in it. I’ll definitely be upgrading mine to have more fun
Thanks for commenting. I can tell you it wasn't my expertise, you know that special little touch. Regardless, a jump of 50 fps to 33 fps is still pretty good (still puts you at about 1.2 ft-lbs, vs my 1.4 ft-1lbs) especially for a low velocity bb gun like the Red Ryder.
Love my red ryder my wife got me couple Christmas ago, i cant miss with it. I plink cans in back yard once a while and it definitely has more arc than i remember back in 1982 but thats ok is fun and cheap to shoot.
Found your video interesting. I have many guns, mostly in 22LR, but I have RRs and many pellet rifles. I always have a RR available around my property for mice rats snakes. Thanks for your video
LOL I did the same thing with an old lever action daisy about ten years ago and it still stings the crap out of vermin and the occasional can or soda bottle that's looking at me wrong 😆
Hatsan USA in Rogers Arkansas has great break barrel pellet rifles less than $100 if you can get used to to 50lbs cocking resistance but that's modable if necessary too. Other than that inconvenience, it's great power for a low cost. Some come with a nice scope package sometimes too.
I've got a Hatsan 1000X Striker Wood Spring Combo .177 in my "saved for later" box on e-bay. It looks really intriguing, and I'm a huge fan of wood stock. I know Rodgers is home of Daisy, and Umarex has a big shipping center there, but didn't know about Hatson USA being there. The Hatsan I'm looking at is listed right now at $165 though. Thanks for the tip. I'll look further.
Good proposal. Sounds like a possible future video...unfortunately, I didn't do an accuracy test with the same Red Ryder before changing out the spring. I only did the speed test, same gun, same chrony. In the video I have just posted on the Daisy 499B, in the opening scene I was shooting at one of those Daisy targets with the 499B, no flyers. Not in the video, was shooting I did with my two Red Ryders from the same chair. The more powerful Red Ryder (the one featured in this video) had a flyer, but was just outside one of those stars. The other Red Ryder still had a grouping of less that a quarter, but not even close to as tight as the 499B. I'll take the slight drop in accuracy for the extra punch. What would be a test would be testing the two Red Ryders out past five yards, but not much past eight yards, because given the low speeds, they aren't worth much past that. So, maybe next Christmas....? we'll see, depends on what they have up...no new Red Ryder versions, I may do it. Thanks for the comment!
I had a Daisy and don't know what ever happened to it growing up it was my pride and joy first rifle! Thinking my mom threw it out when I got older she hated it!!!
I don't know much about welding. Wish I did. I went to Ace Hardware and saw regular welding rods were over $20. I went cheap with the aluminum, for $9. I saw where you can use a butane torch to solder if needed, so I figured I'd save money, and get some extra use. As I said in the video....nope. Ironically, the steel rod cost only $4. In frustration I went to the store...the chain is called Home Base....and just looked around for something that might work. Thanks for commenting!
That's what I'm thinking too. I didn't have a Red Ryder when I was a kid in the 60's, but a couple of friends had the equivalent of a Western Sky, the shorter verison of the Red Ryder without forestock. When we played Army, sometimes someone would get hit with a bb, and it only stung. No way it was going 350 fps, so, I'm thinking by the 1960's Daisy had already made the decision there were too many lawsuits on the way if they had the stronger spring. Have no clue when they did it though!
Hey Big Luke! Yeah, I've got three Hooks hats. That is the coolest logo, the two hooks shaped like a C. Besides any team that plays at Whataburger Stadium has to be cool. I haven't been to a minor league game in years...last one for me was the Chattanooga Lookouts (another cool logo hat) back in their old stadium, the one featured in Alabama's song "Cheap Seats." My son lives down in Victoria, and I visit there a bit. I love the Texas Coastal Bend area. ( I did a video, not one of my more popular one about kayaking on the Matagorda Bay with my Super Drifter air rifle) I have gone to Corpus numerous times, usually hit Mustang Island there too, and Rockport, even thought about going to Whataburger Stadium just to say we've been there, but every time we were in town, they weren't. I subscribed to your channel. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@ awesome! I live right on Nueces Bay so thats where I do most of my fishin. My little Girl turns 2 in February and we got another on the way so I look forward to watching your videos about red ryders they will come in handy with my little ones as they get old enough!
Brian your Daisy Christmas special idea this year is brilliant. I wonder how well received a replica of the first Daisy BB gun would be among air gunners if Daisy outdoor products made a batch and pitched them over the Holliday period?
Depends on how much they would charge. It probably would cost a lot to make, since it would require new tooling, and probably need a strong spring package like the Cobalt327 package. I know from general comments on other videos (not mine) that when Crosman came out with the 100 Yr anniversary walnut 362, there were a lot of bad remarks about it because of the price. I figured the cost over a regular 362, and didn't think they charged too much, and went ahead and bought it. It was worth it for me....I still think that is my favorite of all my airguns just because of the feel, and how it shoots. I haven't changed it a bit, and still take it out to shoot just for the heck of it...you know get back to basics. Others, however, say they could get a really hot pcp for the same price. So it would be interesting...I would definitely look into buying one...but it would be a big gamble for the corporate bean counters at whatever financial holding company on Wall Street that now owns Gamo/Daisy/Crosman and who knows what else.
@@brianwilke592 I think you have good points. I was thinking of using existing components and adding an anodized aluminum (colored like the thick clothes hangers) stock and tag it with a fancy retro name. I guess making a cocking barrel with attorney approved ratcheting anti-bear trap mechanism would be an expensive gamble. I got an anniversary 362 also. Price was ok (I waited until the initial price was dropped) quality was not there. My first gun would not hold air overnight and had a rivet in the pumping arm catching. I had to send it back to get a different stock and forearm and valve work.
Yeah, I noted the WalMart where I filmed the first part of the intro was all sold out last Monday. And they probably only had about 10 in there when I was filming that, which I think was mid Nov. I don't know why Daisy decided NOT to promote the Red Ryder this Christmas season. Makes no sense to me.
My older brother bragged about his Red Rider being able to punch through 2 sides of a Prince Albert can. By the time I got mine in the 60s they wouldn't nearly come close. But I did get an occasional blackbird.
@brianwilke592 my older brother grew up mainly in the 50s. He was 11 years older than I was and by the time I got mine in the early 60s I guess they had weakened the springs but I learned on it. But by the time I was 13 I had a shiny new 22 single shot I'd picked up and sold a mounded up pickup bed of walnuts to get. Ordered it from a Montgomery wards catalog and still had enough money to buy 2 boxes of 22 amo for 25 cents a box. How times have changed.
I have two red ryders, 1986 and 2000 versions. The quality is night and day. The newer one scatters shots all over, the older one hits the can most every time.
I've heard the same type of complaint from other commenters about quality control going down over the years....seems to be happening with a lot of items, not just air guns, on the market these days. Seems like "out-sourcing" that great "cost saver" loved by all the consultants in the 90's might of had a cost after all. Time will tell. Thanks for the comment!
Yes, of course. www.ebay.com/usr/cobalt327 The e-bay dealer is colbalt327(5720) You have to go to e-bay I just did, but it appears he's pretty much closed shop for Christmas (it looks like a one or two man operation). I went to my purchase history, and found the item, so his store is still up and running. Just give him a couple weeks. That's probably why you are having trouble finding him. BTW, I also tried to find him on Amazon. No luck. Hope that helps.
The Red Ryder is just a spring action air gun. But the spring compresses the air and the sudden concussion pushes the bb out, not contact with the spring mechanism. It is not like a pumper, though, because that requires air to be compressed in a container with valves. Daisy's 880 is like that. The old Benjamin from the 1960's I think was the pumper, although a very nice one. I bet you wish you still had it; they are worth some bucks, even if only for restoration only!
I can only measure what I did in this video, and that is with the chronograph. I don't have any equipment to measure spring tension. I got 150 fps more with the new spring, but that also includes the new modified tube too. I'm guessing you get about 100-125 fps faster with just the new spring. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for commenting! I am not an authority of any kind regarding dieseling BB guns, or pellet rifles. Short answer: I don't know. Nuanced answer: I would think "no" You are basically adding an oil residue to the bb, and this will eventually coat the smooth bore surface of a bb gun barrel. I had this problem with the newest version of the Crosman 760, which is a smoothbore. I tested it with both pellets and bb's. It did okay with pellets, but with bb's it was like shooting knuckleballs. They were all over the place, but in tight groups. A commenter suggested that the oil was causing the rotation of the bb to spin sideways, much like a spit ball in baseball. So I cleaned the barrel of all oil debris, and the gun shot much more accurately with bb's.
I my youth growing up in the 60's I would have swapped all my Batman & Superman comics for this wonderful weapon of mass destruction and gone straight out hunting big game, well wasps anyway as there were no Elephants or Tigers around London. I might even included my Man From Uncle pistol with silencer (think it was a cartoonish copy of a P38 with suppressor)
Thanks for the wonderful comment! As a child of the 60's, playing Batman and Robin, and watching Man From Uncle too, I know exactly what you are talking about. I think one of my friends might have had one of those Man From Uncle pistols. I had a Davy Crocket long rifle with wood stock, and it seems like a Mattel M1 Garrand, cheap plastic. My dad didn't like guns, but my grandpa did, and he had a Crosman 760. I grew up in Cuba, Illinois, a town of 1,400, but similar childhood memories!
I can understand the frustration. I set mine aside a day or two until I figured out to resolve the problem that was holding me up. No sense in making it a bad experience. It'll still be there once you decide to try again, or once you decide it wasn't worth it.
I had a chuckle when I read that. Seems like that kind of stuff happens quite often. Still communicate frequently with my older brother. We share a lot of experiences/memories.
No. I have a 499B. Only shot it probably 50 times. Great BB gun! I'm saving its further usage for a future video. After doing this video, and seeing how the spring kit worked, I looked on Cobalt327's e-bay store page to see if he had a spring kit for the 499B. He did, and it is specifically for the 499B. There is no tube, like the one I showed in the opening scene where I showed the kit. Apparently, there is a less expensive 499. He cautions that kit will NOT work on the less expensive 499....it has to be a 499B. I ordered the last one...it just got here yesterday. I haven't even opened the package yet. He advertises it will get the 499B from 250 fps to 400 fps. Check with his site...just Colbalt327 now and then to see when he has some up for sale. Mine ran about $25. Good luck.
Your chronograph can be set to fps. Just push and hold the square bottom button, quickly release when it says fps. It doesnt default so you have to do it each time its turned on.
I put some pel oil on, and a little bit of sylicone on the tube edge of the plunger. But I have no way, not involving a lot of a lot of labor, of quantifying how much difference it made. That said, I'm with you 100%. Thanks for commenting!
LOL. I'll get a pcp Red Ryder going maybe...well, maybe not. I am, however, already almost done with my next video, and starting to edit it. The Crosman 3622 shoots consistently over 600 fps, more like 700 fps. Stay tuned, and thanks for watching!
Yep, u get more FPS, but u check the accuracy before and after--you’ll be disappointed. Better off to just change to the bored out air tube. You’ll still get over 300 fps, and won’t lose whatever accuracy it had.
I shot the original version quite a bit in the video I did last year. Same gun. I didn't really notice it was that accurate...average. After 5 yards the grouping scattered. With the upgrade it seemed to scatter less at the 7 yard mark. And it obliterated the Daisy shatter disk, which is cool. The ordinal version just kind of broke the shatter disk in three pieces. That's my experience; yours may be different, and thanks for pointing that out. The 300 fps might well be the "sweet spot."
Spent many hrs a few yrs ago with 3 “Walmart” Red Riders. Tested gun springs, air tubes, barrels mods, every available brand of BBs. Really enjoyed it. All accuracy ck were done off rests, 4x scope and 30ft indoors. Also used chronograph to ck velocities. I settled on approx 300fps with std spring and drilled out air tubes. I believe the heavy springs caused excessive barrel “jump/vibration”. The biggest dia BBs shot the best, these were “Marksman” brand BB. Amazon carried them at time. They were several thousand bigger and very concentric. At 30’ I could do 1 1/4” 5 shot groups --as with most shooting there’s always a flyer. I bought 100 4.5 mm Ball Bearings. These were perfectly round and exactly 0.177” dia. Shot some 3/4” groups with them. At 10 cents each -I didn’t do any plinking. Thanks for video. Enjoy the Daisies.
@@daisymae6561 Sounds like you did some extensive testing. Just curious, why not just get the 499B. It will give you super great shot groups. You'll have to pay more for the bb gun, but you are buying really good quality. I've got one, will do a video on it some day. I will try your bored out tube theory, with a 105, in several videos. (The main jist of those videos will be making entirely new stock...just in the idea phase now, but if I'm going to go to the effort to change stock, would like a little better performance too). Thanks for the excellent comments. I get comments from guys like you, and I take them to heart...always learning. Love to have you subscribe if you haven't already.
Thanks for the reply. I’m sure the 499 would be more accurate, like to know the bore dia. The std Red Rider runs around 0.178”. Most BBs runs 0.172+/- . That’s a lot of “slop” as it bounces down the tube. The “Marksman” match bb runs 0.177” and more concentric than others. The Crossman coppers are some of the worst I’ve measured. My opinion is bb fit to bore is the most important issue for accuracy. Plus concentricity. Started messing with Cobalts springs several yrs ago. Actually blew a shot tube thru the abutment with one. To me velocity is second to accuracy. If u don’t hit it-- I got into Airsoft guns to see how they could throw a plastic pellet so far and remain true and straight. ASU know steel BBs start sailing shortly after leaving the barrel. Well the secret is backspin achieved by a “hop up” device That creates backspin. . Amazing what that does for a plastic (6mm) bb that weighs less than the 4.5 mm steel bb. So I’ve tried to place rubber tubing in the top of the shot tubes, to create backspin. No luck, unlike the hopup device which engages the bb at launch, the rubber has to be placed farther down the tube. Haven’t found the magic yet. Need the service s of a toolmaker:). I’m working on another modification, trying to stiffen the shot tube. Still think the shock of the plunger hitting the abutment seal affects the accuracy. At 300 fps it takes a “long” time before the bb gets clear of the shot tube, lots of time to bounce the tube around. Nice talking to another Daisy addict. Stay in touch.
Yea, that's comparing apples and oranges, though. I had a C02 pistol from Crosman about 7 years ago that was semi-auto. Since it was a pistol with a very short barrel, it probably didn't even get to 200 fps. Broke it trying to tinker with it. You win some, lose some. I heard those Crosman M4's are pretty cool though. Is that what you've got?
Few of my air rifles do as advertised I have found. This Red Ryder chronied at 288 last year when I first reviewed it. Wasn't surprised. They can defend that by saying "with alloy pellets" or "under ideal conditions." Thanks for commenting!
I bought a new red ryder bb gun on sale- what a joke-nothing like the one i had in my youth. So weak you can see the BB fall 20 feet out of the barrel !
Awesome video!! I'm about to do this to my childhood Daisy to freshen it up some!! Hopefully my future son/daughter will receive it!
Thanks for commenting, and good luck with your project!
Thank you Mr. Wilke. I enjoyed every second of your video. It was informative and at every point I understood the process. Well done SIR!
Thank you so much for the encouraging comment!
I got my Red Rider in 1964. I saved a dime every week from my weekly allowance (a quarter) to get enough to buy it. It cost me $9.99. The look on that clerks face when I poured out my bag of dimes was priceless! We lived out in the country, so naturally I used it for hunting. It worked good on birds and would take a rabbit at close range with a head shot. But, squirrels were too tough, the BB would just bounce off! My dad said I should stick with my bow on the squirrels and that gave me an idea. We had some 6 inch long, wooden shaft Q-tips that only had the cotton at one end. They were for cleaning stuff. I found that if I sharpened the end without the cotton and pushed it down into my Red Rider like a muzzle loading rifle, it would shoot that "dart" just like an underwater speargun! I tested it for accuracy and found that I'd have to be within 20 feet to hit a 2 inch circle and that was good enough for a body shot on a squirrel. My biggest problem was getting within 20 feet of a squirrel that was sitting perfectly still and out in the open. Needless to say I didn't get many shots at squirrels, but I found the "darts" worked well on birds too when I ran out of BB's and the "darts" were reusable!
It's amazing what we did when we were kids back in the 60's. I think I'm probably about 4 to 5 years behind you. I don't think my dad wanted us to have bb guns, but I would have done the same thing with the Christmas Wish RR. The compass and sundial would have been great. I would have been taking that back on the strip mine roads into the CCC planted pine trees for a real adventure! We did things like that. Great time to grow up. Thanks for sharing such a cool story!
What a great video! I knew one could buy an adult sized stock for the Red Ryder but I never knew one could buy more powerful springs,
Thanks for watching!
Hitting the like because he asked so nicely
I certainly appreciate you doing that...and making a comment.
I thoroughly enjoyed your rebuild video, nice to see the little Daisy getting some love, subscribed 👍
Thank you so much for watching, commenting AND subscribing!
Enjoyed the video I've got 2 daisy's here that belong to my kids. I think dad threw mine away. Think I might have to do the up grade on these I have here.
Thanks, and good luck!
Making mistakes is your path to perfection. Great Video!
Yep. And thanks for commenting!
I did this as a kid probably around ten years of age. Found a very old daisy in a friends barn almost unrecognizable but it was a daisy and the spring was in tact. My young engineering mind went to work as you just did and yes it was a feat to get the spring in and slide the top pin , especially at my age, However i got and boy o boy did that thing shoot! It would bust coke bottles and penetrate plywood for a short time any how as the trigger mechanism was too weak to handle that older thicker spring tension and that was it for that daisy. I soon aquired a Sheridan silver streak and never looked back😊 Great video and thanx for the memories 👍
Thanks for watching! Thanks for the story! Tinkering is always fun, but even better when one improves what is being tinkered on. Maybe one of these days, I'll get a Sheridan. They have some pcps that are a little out of my price range right now. But they look really nice.
Very enjoyable video. Nice work.
Thank you!
Did training in Army basic training with Red Rider BB guns in the 1960s. Learned to hit Coke bottle caps pitched in front six or seven feet away while shooting from the hip. This was training to shoot the M-16 from the hip. Handy skill to have in Vietnam.
That's a great story! I re-looked to be sure, but the book I featured in the beginning of this video actually did mention that. There are several photographs of a line of Army recruits with helmets and LBE's shooting Daisy BB guns at Fort Benning in the 60's. They called that "instinct shooting" training. Glad it helped you out in Vietnam. By the late 80's, when I went through Basic, that was long gone.
@@brianwilke592 When that program first came out in the 60's it was called Quick Kill. Daisey quickly changed it to Quick Skill.
@@1boortzfan Imagine that. Daisy was Always big on public relations.
I had a old daisy with no sights and I used it to practice shooting at washers with tape over the holes, didn't do very well at hip shooting but I did get pretty good at snap shooting from the shoulder.
And the eye patch industry rejoiced...
i couldn't believe how many comments i had to look through to find someone who made a "poke your eye out" comment 🤭
@graphixkillzzz classic holiday tradition to many still probably
I'm going to need two eyepatches after I up grade mine 😮
@@toymahnator I hear goggles are making a comeback...
@ hummmm may have to look in to that
I like your drawing in the notebook. Thanks for the info (and warnings of mistakes so we don't need to)
Thanks you!
I still want one.
Love the attitude, and i have been there! Happy Holidays! Cheers!
Thanks! Happy Holidays to you too!
Wonderful video! Liked and subscribed and thanks for the shout out. Good job on your Super Thumper, always glad to see folks moddin' thier Daisy's and showin' 'em off. You're right about the mainspring compressor tool, you gotta have a strong one!
Wow! Thanks Shane! I was already subscribed to your channel, and watch it often just to learn a little about some of these old Daisys. Your passion is contagious, so I am honored that you would subscribe to my channel! Oh, and thanks for putting out the video on how to make the tool; it was the only one with specific guidance.
Excellent video. I can appreciate you sharing the "don'ts" so that others don't make the same mistakes. Once again, your art work absolutely sets the bar. Incredibly realistic. Have a Merry Christmas homie.
Thanks, my man! I really appreciate your comments, and your videos, as well. Have a Merry Christmas!
@@brianwilke592 absolutely homie. Thank you as well :)
Great video! I collect BB guns and air rifles and occasionally rebuild them if they are shooting soft. I have a daisy model 99 from the early 70s that still shoots in the 350 FPS range. So fun to shoot cans in backyard. It never gets old!!!! Merry Christmas to you and enjoy your new toy.
👍thanx for the links
also looked good too after you got done w/it.
I also had bought that same CHRONY. didnt work for me glad urs worked
My Caldwell is no doubt more precise and trustworthy, but it only works in the sunlight. Last year I tried using puck lights to get it to work inside during the winter, and that turned out to be a failure. Let's hope this little one works through the winter, so I can test inside. Easy enough to convert mps to fps, even though it supposedly is supposed to work with fps.
Excellent results and great video that was fun to watch as usual. I upgraded my Red Ryder too, about a year ago, but I only installed the spring and not the tube thing. It made it a little harder to cock but it's not bad. Over my chrono it's doing around 330fps give or take a couple of fps. That's noticeably better than stock condition, but not as fast as if I had the larger diameter air tube like yours does.
The one I bought was the "Silver Package". I think I got it on recommendation of either a Restomod video, or North Pine Woods (i think that's the guys name) video. Have a Merry Christmas, my friend.
I can’t believe how consistent it was! Nice work, and nice video!
Thank you!
Hello Brian, just found your channel and subscribed! I love to modify my guns too. I have only done a few air gun videos but want to do more soon. Thanks for the video and have a Merry Christmas!
Well, hello there Blademan. I clicked on your channel. Subscribed. Looks like we are on the same sheet of music! I'll be checking out some of those videos, and have a Merry Christmas yourself!
Never heard of modifying a BB gun till I saw your channel
Well, I'm in my 60's and until just two and a half years ago, neither had I. I've learned a lot since starting this air rifle channel. It's a lot of fun, shooting air guns, and you can go with the nostalgic bb guns, or all the way to the pcp air rifles. Thanks for watching and commenting!
great video! I may upgrade mine too. I got the cheaper $35 noname chrono that clamps on the barrel off amazon and it works great, no features but it reads every shot no errors. I see all the other utubers using name brand chronos getting errors half the time. Sometimes you cant beat cheap.
I like my Caldwell, but it has to have bright sun. As you also live in TX, you know that it gets a little cloudier and the days are shorter so testing outside can be problematic. I tried puck lights last winter, but they were way, way off on my Astra Cub video, so I decided to use this one for the winter. Hope it holds out, even if it gives me mps only. Weird that It requires my shop lights (bright lights) off. Anyway, you have a Merry Christmas!
Been shootin my red rider in my basement range every day ...good video brian...merry Christmas 🎄
Thank you, and Merry Christmas too you as well.
The Red Ryder I bought at Walmart about ten years ago doesn't even compare to the one I had as a kid in the early/mid 70s. The new one barely broke 300 fps brand new. I have no idea what the velocity of my old one was. I do know the trajectory of my new one is much more of an arc than my childhood one.
I am pretty sure Daisy got a little scared when the government Karen (Consumer Protection Agency) tried to ban the Daisy 880 in the late Clinton years because it "was too dangerous." Cost Daisy a lot of money in legal fees to fight it.
I was just saying this since I bought I new one for me and my nephew. I went out side made sure it’s all ready to go out of box, threw some oil In it, adjusted the sight. My old one that I got back in 2009 would go through the tops and bottoms of aluminum cans, this new one only puts a dent in it. I’ll definitely be upgrading mine to have more fun
Nice job! Looks great! + It's got more punch for routing pests out of the yard.
Thank you for the very nice comment.
@@brianwilke592 You're welcome. Hope you and yours have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Wow Brian that was a good jump in FPS. I did the same thing the summer of 2023 and my Red Ryder only went from 280 up to the 330 range.
Thanks for commenting. I can tell you it wasn't my expertise, you know that special little touch. Regardless, a jump of 50 fps to 33 fps is still pretty good (still puts you at about 1.2 ft-lbs, vs my 1.4 ft-1lbs) especially for a low velocity bb gun like the Red Ryder.
Love my red ryder my wife got me couple Christmas ago, i cant miss with it. I plink cans in back yard once a while and it definitely has more arc than i remember back in 1982 but thats ok is fun and cheap to shoot.
Thanks for commenting!
Very nice! Substantial increase in fps
Thanks. It's a daisy now!
Found your video interesting. I have many guns, mostly in 22LR, but I have RRs and many pellet rifles. I always have a RR available around my property for mice rats snakes. Thanks for your video
Thanks for your kind comments.
LOL I did the same thing with an old lever action daisy about ten years ago and it still stings the crap out of vermin and the occasional can or soda bottle that's looking at me wrong 😆
Yeah, you gotta watch out for them soda cans looking at you wrong! LOL. Have a Merry Christmas!
Hatsan USA in Rogers Arkansas has great break barrel pellet rifles less than $100 if you can get used to to 50lbs cocking resistance but that's modable if necessary too. Other than that inconvenience, it's great power for a low cost. Some come with a nice scope package sometimes too.
I've got a Hatsan 1000X Striker Wood Spring Combo .177 in my "saved for later" box on e-bay. It looks really intriguing, and I'm a huge fan of wood stock. I know Rodgers is home of Daisy, and Umarex has a big shipping center there, but didn't know about Hatson USA being there. The Hatsan I'm looking at is listed right now at $165 though. Thanks for the tip. I'll look further.
@@brianwilke592 hatsan spring striker on Amazon, less than $99.
Lol I had one back in the day…… my moms lawn ornaments didn’t stand a chance…… hard to deny bb holes lol
Now that's funny, no matter who you are, to quote one of my favorite comedians. 😄
The first gun I got was a daisy. BB gun me and my cousins got a lot of pigeons and doves on my grandparents Dairy
I’d like to see accuracy comparison tests
Good proposal. Sounds like a possible future video...unfortunately, I didn't do an accuracy test with the same Red Ryder before changing out the spring. I only did the speed test, same gun, same chrony. In the video I have just posted on the Daisy 499B, in the opening scene I was shooting at one of those Daisy targets with the 499B, no flyers. Not in the video, was shooting I did with my two Red Ryders from the same chair. The more powerful Red Ryder (the one featured in this video) had a flyer, but was just outside one of those stars. The other Red Ryder still had a grouping of less that a quarter, but not even close to as tight as the 499B. I'll take the slight drop in accuracy for the extra punch. What would be a test would be testing the two Red Ryders out past five yards, but not much past eight yards, because given the low speeds, they aren't worth much past that. So, maybe next Christmas....? we'll see, depends on what they have up...no new Red Ryder versions, I may do it. Thanks for the comment!
I had a Daisy and don't know what ever happened to it growing up it was my pride and joy first rifle! Thinking my mom threw it out when I got older she hated it!!!
LOL. She probably thought she dodged a bb after watching the Christmas Story movie.
very interesting. I'll have to try this.
Thanks for watching Good luck!
Neet, could never get one apart as a kid to better it. Crossman pump came along. Welding rod is by strength 60 series low with 70 the 100,110.
I don't know much about welding. Wish I did. I went to Ace Hardware and saw regular welding rods were over $20. I went cheap with the aluminum, for $9. I saw where you can use a butane torch to solder if needed, so I figured I'd save money, and get some extra use. As I said in the video....nope. Ironically, the steel rod cost only $4. In frustration I went to the store...the chain is called Home Base....and just looked around for something that might work. Thanks for commenting!
Good job!
Thanks much
I made a washer from some steel tubing, took apart my old spring and added the washer in it to tighten the spring. I got the same results for cheaper.
Good to have the right size of steel tubing just laying around.
Apparently they made the spring stronger back in the day !!
That's what I'm thinking too. I didn't have a Red Ryder when I was a kid in the 60's, but a couple of friends had the equivalent of a Western Sky, the shorter verison of the Red Ryder without forestock. When we played Army, sometimes someone would get hit with a bb, and it only stung. No way it was going 350 fps, so, I'm thinking by the 1960's Daisy had already made the decision there were too many lawsuits on the way if they had the stronger spring. Have no clue when they did it though!
Awesome vid. Subbed🎉
Thank you for your comment, and support!
What a fun upgrade 😁😜😊
Indeed!
the daisy pump was also a great bb gun we also had a daisy lever action that was not a red rider ..
Was watching and realized youre wearing a CC Hooks hat! Go Hooks! Im from Portland right across the bridge
Hey Big Luke! Yeah, I've got three Hooks hats. That is the coolest logo, the two hooks shaped like a C. Besides any team that plays at Whataburger Stadium has to be cool. I haven't been to a minor league game in years...last one for me was the Chattanooga Lookouts (another cool logo hat) back in their old stadium, the one featured in Alabama's song "Cheap Seats." My son lives down in Victoria, and I visit there a bit. I love the Texas Coastal Bend area. ( I did a video, not one of my more popular one about kayaking on the Matagorda Bay with my Super Drifter air rifle) I have gone to Corpus numerous times, usually hit Mustang Island there too, and Rockport, even thought about going to Whataburger Stadium just to say we've been there, but every time we were in town, they weren't. I subscribed to your channel. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@ awesome! I live right on Nueces Bay so thats where I do most of my fishin. My little Girl turns 2 in February and we got another on the way so I look forward to watching your videos about red ryders they will come in handy with my little ones as they get old enough!
Yeah the thumper kit
Brian your Daisy Christmas special idea this year is brilliant. I wonder how well received a replica of the first Daisy BB gun would be among air gunners if Daisy outdoor products made a batch and pitched them over the Holliday period?
Depends on how much they would charge. It probably would cost a lot to make, since it would require new tooling, and probably need a strong spring package like the Cobalt327 package. I know from general comments on other videos (not mine) that when Crosman came out with the 100 Yr anniversary walnut 362, there were a lot of bad remarks about it because of the price. I figured the cost over a regular 362, and didn't think they charged too much, and went ahead and bought it. It was worth it for me....I still think that is my favorite of all my airguns just because of the feel, and how it shoots. I haven't changed it a bit, and still take it out to shoot just for the heck of it...you know get back to basics. Others, however, say they could get a really hot pcp for the same price. So it would be interesting...I would definitely look into buying one...but it would be a big gamble for the corporate bean counters at whatever financial holding company on Wall Street that now owns Gamo/Daisy/Crosman and who knows what else.
@@brianwilke592 I think you have good points. I was thinking of using existing components and adding an anodized aluminum (colored like the thick clothes hangers) stock and tag it with a fancy retro name. I guess making a cocking barrel with attorney approved ratcheting anti-bear trap mechanism would be an expensive gamble. I got an anniversary 362 also. Price was ok (I waited until the initial price was dropped) quality was not there. My first gun would not hold air overnight and had a rivet in the pumping arm catching. I had to send it back to get a different stock and forearm and valve work.
Great video man it helped me alot
Thank you; I'm glad it helped you out!
Hey Brian I can’t even find a red rider That’s a nice upgrade.
Yeah, I noted the WalMart where I filmed the first part of the intro was all sold out last Monday. And they probably only had about 10 in there when I was filming that, which I think was mid Nov. I don't know why Daisy decided NOT to promote the Red Ryder this Christmas season. Makes no sense to me.
My older brother bragged about his Red Rider being able to punch through 2 sides of a Prince Albert can. By the time I got mine in the 60s they wouldn't nearly come close. But I did get an occasional blackbird.
I remember thos Prince Albert cans. Seems like there were a lot of them just laying around. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@brianwilke592 my older brother grew up mainly in the 50s. He was 11 years older than I was and by the time I got mine in the early 60s I guess they had weakened the springs but I learned on it. But by the time I was 13 I had a shiny new 22 single shot I'd picked up and sold a mounded up pickup bed of walnuts to get. Ordered it from a Montgomery wards catalog and still had enough money to buy 2 boxes of 22 amo for 25 cents a box. How times have changed.
@@larryreese6146 Boy have they.
sweet he's got the ''don't shoot your eye out ''model
I have two red ryders, 1986 and 2000 versions. The quality is night and day. The newer one scatters shots all over, the older one hits the can most every time.
Absolutely no one cares
I've heard the same type of complaint from other commenters about quality control going down over the years....seems to be happening with a lot of items, not just air guns, on the market these days. Seems like "out-sourcing" that great "cost saver" loved by all the consultants in the 90's might of had a cost after all. Time will tell. Thanks for the comment!
@@brianwilke592 You think I care enough to read your comment?
Some would probably like a link to where you purchased that spring upgrade
Yes, of course. www.ebay.com/usr/cobalt327 The e-bay dealer is colbalt327(5720) You have to go to e-bay I just did, but it appears he's pretty much closed shop for Christmas (it looks like a one or two man operation). I went to my purchase history, and found the item, so his store is still up and running. Just give him a couple weeks. That's probably why you are having trouble finding him. BTW, I also tried to find him on Amazon. No luck. Hope that helps.
He's back up.
Thanks for the video..and saving me some good cuss words
You are most welcome, and thanks for commenting!
Fun video. My first air rifle was a Benjamin from the 1960s. Don't have it anymore. Do these Red Ryders use air anymore?
The Red Ryder is just a spring action air gun. But the spring compresses the air and the sudden concussion pushes the bb out, not contact with the spring mechanism. It is not like a pumper, though, because that requires air to be compressed in a container with valves. Daisy's 880 is like that. The old Benjamin from the 1960's I think was the pumper, although a very nice one. I bet you wish you still had it; they are worth some bucks, even if only for restoration only!
Be careful, the ATF will define it as an assault rifle...
Without getting into politics too much (I will go there occasionally on Rumble), I'm with you there. Crazy times.
@@brianwilke592 Got ya..
Hey bud, can you tell me what kind of lacquer you used on stock and where to get it? Thank you
Mostly MiniWax Gloss Finish spray lacquer, from WalMart.
Hi after market parts for the daisy redryder and what oil do you use please Shane uk
I used Crosman PelOil. The information on the spring kit is in the Description section with the e-bay dealer's link.
Think the triggers different now
I have a 1937 buck jones real good condition.
That would be really cool!
Nice!
My Daisy trigger pull is about 35 pounds lol
LOL! That would be problematic, as they say.
Love to upgrade mine, I have wanted to get the spring and upgrade it, but don't know how.... also, how much more powerful is it than the old spring ?
I can only measure what I did in this video, and that is with the chronograph. I don't have any equipment to measure spring tension. I got 150 fps more with the new spring, but that also includes the new modified tube too. I'm guessing you get about 100-125 fps faster with just the new spring. Thanks for watching!
Fine video thanks....can you diesel a BB gun?
Thanks for commenting! I am not an authority of any kind regarding dieseling BB guns, or pellet rifles. Short answer: I don't know. Nuanced answer: I would think "no" You are basically adding an oil residue to the bb, and this will eventually coat the smooth bore surface of a bb gun barrel. I had this problem with the newest version of the Crosman 760, which is a smoothbore. I tested it with both pellets and bb's. It did okay with pellets, but with bb's it was like shooting knuckleballs. They were all over the place, but in tight groups. A commenter suggested that the oil was causing the rotation of the bb to spin sideways, much like a spit ball in baseball. So I cleaned the barrel of all oil debris, and the gun shot much more accurately with bb's.
I my youth growing up in the 60's I would have swapped all my Batman & Superman comics for this wonderful weapon of mass destruction and gone straight out hunting big game, well wasps anyway as there were no Elephants or Tigers around London. I might even included my Man From Uncle pistol with silencer (think it was a cartoonish copy of a P38 with suppressor)
Thanks for the wonderful comment! As a child of the 60's, playing Batman and Robin, and watching Man From Uncle too, I know exactly what you are talking about. I think one of my friends might have had one of those Man From Uncle pistols. I had a Davy Crocket long rifle with wood stock, and it seems like a Mattel M1 Garrand, cheap plastic. My dad didn't like guns, but my grandpa did, and he had a Crosman 760. I grew up in Cuba, Illinois, a town of 1,400, but similar childhood memories!
I did end up taking it apart and not putting it back together
I can understand the frustration. I set mine aside a day or two until I figured out to resolve the problem that was holding me up. No sense in making it a bad experience. It'll still be there once you decide to try again, or once you decide it wasn't worth it.
In the 70$ they had real power.
Thanks for commenting; I just now saw this, sorry for the delay.
Fyi. N95 is a particulate filter and is not protecting you from fumes.. at all. Its like wearing safety glasses with no lenses.
Okay, thanks.
Has anyone told you, you look like Lou Holtz with those glasses and hat on…
No, sir. Haven't been told that until now, but I'll take it, I used to like Lou Holtz. (Gave up most TV sports in 2020, and never went back).
I had the gold anniversary daisy back in the 70s but as per usual my older brother broke it...still mad at him for that
I had a chuckle when I read that. Seems like that kind of stuff happens quite often. Still communicate frequently with my older brother. We share a lot of experiences/memories.
Is that the same spring that’s in the 499B model?
No. I have a 499B. Only shot it probably 50 times. Great BB gun! I'm saving its further usage for a future video. After doing this video, and seeing how the spring kit worked, I looked on Cobalt327's e-bay store page to see if he had a spring kit for the 499B. He did, and it is specifically for the 499B. There is no tube, like the one I showed in the opening scene where I showed the kit. Apparently, there is a less expensive 499. He cautions that kit will NOT work on the less expensive 499....it has to be a 499B. I ordered the last one...it just got here yesterday. I haven't even opened the package yet. He advertises it will get the 499B from 250 fps to 400 fps. Check with his site...just Colbalt327 now and then to see when he has some up for sale. Mine ran about $25. Good luck.
Do you know where I can get a gas spring that will fit inside the red Ryder? I have the same model
Unfortunately, I have no expertise in gas springs for that type of Daisy. Thanks for watching and commenting!
@ thanks for replying
"Your a daisy if you do"! Doc Holiday to Johnny Ringo in the movie Tombstone.
That's right. Good reference.
Yeah I thought the forearm was plastic...it's wood .dah..lol...does the stronger spring make it harder to cock?
Thanks for commenting. It does make it a little harder to cock, I noticed it right off, but it isn't that significant.
Your chronograph can be set to fps. Just push and hold the square bottom button, quickly release when it says fps. It doesnt default so you have to do it each time its turned on.
Thanks for the info!
Try putting some oil in the tube, that consists of the barrel. Get more oomph for the Hydraulic affect.
I put some pel oil on, and a little bit of sylicone on the tube edge of the plunger. But I have no way, not involving a lot of a lot of labor, of quantifying how much difference it made. That said, I'm with you 100%. Thanks for commenting!
Merry Christmas!
Same to you!
Pretty darn cool
Let me know when you get the speed up to ~ 600fps
LOL. I'll get a pcp Red Ryder going maybe...well, maybe not. I am, however, already almost done with my next video, and starting to edit it. The Crosman 3622 shoots consistently over 600 fps, more like 700 fps. Stay tuned, and thanks for watching!
“You’ll shoot your eye out!”
Yep, u get more FPS, but u check the accuracy before and after--you’ll be disappointed. Better off to just change to the bored out air tube. You’ll still get over 300 fps, and won’t lose whatever accuracy it had.
I shot the original version quite a bit in the video I did last year. Same gun. I didn't really notice it was that accurate...average. After 5 yards the grouping scattered. With the upgrade it seemed to scatter less at the 7 yard mark. And it obliterated the Daisy shatter disk, which is cool. The ordinal version just kind of broke the shatter disk in three pieces. That's my experience; yours may be different, and thanks for pointing that out. The 300 fps might well be the "sweet spot."
Spent many hrs a few yrs ago with 3 “Walmart” Red Riders. Tested gun springs, air tubes, barrels mods, every available brand of BBs. Really enjoyed it. All accuracy ck were done off rests, 4x scope and 30ft indoors. Also used chronograph to ck velocities.
I settled on approx 300fps with std spring and drilled out air tubes. I believe the heavy springs caused excessive barrel “jump/vibration”.
The biggest dia BBs shot the best, these were “Marksman” brand BB. Amazon carried them at time. They were several thousand bigger and very concentric.
At 30’ I could do 1 1/4” 5 shot groups --as with most shooting there’s always a flyer.
I bought 100 4.5 mm Ball Bearings. These were perfectly round and exactly 0.177” dia. Shot some 3/4” groups with them. At 10 cents each -I didn’t do any plinking.
Thanks for video. Enjoy the Daisies.
@@daisymae6561 Sounds like you did some extensive testing. Just curious, why not just get the 499B. It will give you super great shot groups. You'll have to pay more for the bb gun, but you are buying really good quality. I've got one, will do a video on it some day. I will try your bored out tube theory, with a 105, in several videos. (The main jist of those videos will be making entirely new stock...just in the idea phase now, but if I'm going to go to the effort to change stock, would like a little better performance too). Thanks for the excellent comments. I get comments from guys like you, and I take them to heart...always learning. Love to have you subscribe if you haven't already.
Thanks for the reply. I’m sure the 499 would be more accurate, like to know the bore dia. The std Red Rider runs around 0.178”. Most BBs runs 0.172+/- . That’s a lot of “slop” as it bounces down the tube. The “Marksman” match bb runs 0.177” and more concentric than others. The Crossman coppers are some of the worst I’ve measured.
My opinion is bb fit to bore is the most important issue for accuracy. Plus concentricity.
Started messing with Cobalts springs several yrs ago. Actually blew a shot tube thru the abutment with one.
To me velocity is second to accuracy. If u don’t hit it--
I got into Airsoft guns to see how they could throw a plastic pellet so far and remain true and straight. ASU know steel BBs start sailing shortly after leaving the barrel.
Well the secret is backspin achieved by a “hop up” device
That creates backspin. .
Amazing what that does for a plastic (6mm) bb that weighs less than the 4.5 mm steel bb.
So I’ve tried to place rubber tubing in the top of the shot tubes, to create backspin. No luck, unlike the hopup device which engages the bb at launch, the rubber has to be placed farther down the tube. Haven’t found the magic yet. Need the service s of a toolmaker:).
I’m working on another modification, trying to stiffen the shot tube. Still think the shock of the plunger hitting the abutment seal affects the accuracy. At 300 fps it takes a “long” time before the bb gets clear of the shot tube, lots of time to bounce the tube around.
Nice talking to another Daisy addict. Stay in touch.
Ahhhh my eye😂
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The sad part is that you have to modify and upgrade parts after you by it. Why not take pride in the products and make them right to start with.
Just my two cents: Bean counters and "profit margin."
1st get a chronograph reading with the stock parts.
I did. That is what the first 10 samples were. 02:55.
my new crosman full auto co2 will do 430 fps. just sayin.
Yea, that's comparing apples and oranges, though. I had a C02 pistol from Crosman about 7 years ago that was semi-auto. Since it was a pistol with a very short barrel, it probably didn't even get to 200 fps. Broke it trying to tinker with it. You win some, lose some. I heard those Crosman M4's are pretty cool though. Is that what you've got?
@@brianwilke592 Yes it is the M4 rifle. I also have the adult size Red Ryder and I like that too.
you gotta get the barra 400e. full auto electric. im hitting beer cans at 160ft
they are "supposed" to shoot 350 fps out of the box but yeah noooooo🤣
Few of my air rifles do as advertised I have found. This Red Ryder chronied at 288 last year when I first reviewed it. Wasn't surprised. They can defend that by saying "with alloy pellets" or "under ideal conditions." Thanks for commenting!
I bought a new red ryder bb gun on sale- what a joke-nothing like the one i had in my youth. So weak you can see the BB fall 20 feet out of the barrel !
Sounds like a return is in order, as in you got a dud.
GET THAT CRESCENT WRENCH OUT OF MY SIGHT!!!🙄
Nope I went AEG I can’t cock The gun due to shattered shoulder about You that’s your business I care not none of my business love from Kenada and ❤
Thanks for watching!
Appreciate the effort. But not a good video. Sorry.
Get better.
Okay Kurt. Thanks for the "expert" review.
You know. This is an open forum, and I was expressing an opinion.
New subscribers now. Thanks for the info, merry Xmas! 🎄
Thank you!
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