@@MrKleenexDude how about Knies needs to learn his place and know when he’s beat. You guys are acting like Bennett repeatedly slammed Knies head into the ice, they got tangled, Bennett checked him into the boards, and they fell (awkwardly for Knies)
It's insane how people conflate tough hard-hitting playoff hockey with dirty hits. If a dude is cross checking someone over and over again, when the puck is nowhere in sight, the ref needs to call a penalty.
They kind of called them in last years playoffs because of the Kuckerov broken ribs thing from the year before, but they really seem to have walked it back. I cannot understand it. Trust me, I want Florida to win, that's a 5 and a game play by Bennett though.
@viperswhip I have no stake in this series. I'm a VGK fan, but I'm seeing the Oilers players do it to Stone's back on numerous shifts, and we know why they're doing it. I saw this video, and it just shows that the refs are ignoring this shit in every game. What happens when a fourth liner from the Knights decides he's had enough and he takes out McDavid bad leg?
Also they player getting crosschecked needs to stand up for themself and drop the gloves IMO. If an aggressive team sees they can do that with no pushback they'll keep doing it.
@@jeremysametz1699 sorry but no, the NHL keeps hurting the careers and potential of talented players by allowing injurious play to go unpunished. Crosby lost how many games to concussions? The NHL should be held accountable for the long term impacts of allowing so many concussions. Sure it’s a fast game but that takedown was not a hockey play it was thuggery (not a leafs fan and I usually relish in seeing them lose)
Every year the refs put away their whistles during the playoffs, and every year people are surprised at all the non-calls. I've said it before but the NHL is the only sport that has 2 sets of rules -- one for the regular season and another for playoffs. This is why you hear about teams that are "built for the playoffs" They have size and able to play the body hard. Toronto is not one of those teams.
I've said this all the time - they need more size in the lineup - need to have players who can throw more hits and be tough on the boards and have an enforcer
@@HockeyRiveNord if the other team is taking advantage of you then you gotta stick up for your team and do something back later in the game. Stop whining and get better
The worst part is how skill is marketed in the season, to only be riding backseat to savagery in the playoffs. Some of these plays are dirty and the dirt goes both ways. But particularly for teams like the oilers the hacking and slashing on mcjesus would never fly in the season, and the NHL carries over to the playoffs and suddenly stops calling things the same. I love the game, but as I get older and the bruisers are chased from the game in general I don't see the same need for non calls in the playoffs. Should just call the game. If you want the NHL to be a skill game, the skill should be rewarded. Just my 2 cents
Fully agree, it turns off lifelong hockey fans from watching. I love playoff hockey, but If the refs don't have control of the game it's no longer about who the better team is, it's just who can do a wwe move on the ice to injure the other team because they know they'll get away with it.
I wasn't impressed with the Bruins, injuries, whatever, who doesn't. If your starter is hurt, put the other guy in game 5 or 6. Not in a game 7. That's on the coach. Most points ever, big deal.
Leaf fans should be pissed because NO ONE came to Knies defense. Knies is Toronto's best player right now and now he's out. If you're a Leaf fan, you should be screaming at all of Knies team mates that left him out to dry. If Toronto did that to ANY Florida player, any mother of a Florida player would have stepped in. Send a message Sheldon, DRESS WAYNE SIMMONDS.
I agree 100%. Back in the day Bennett would have got knocked out for that move. He'd be sucking his food through a straw the rest of the summer. I love the Leafs but they're a bunch of pussies.
The kids out with a concussion, That was not a hockey play that was not giving the guy an extra shot after you make the play. He directs Knies head into the glass with his fore arm on the initial hit. Then follows it up with whatever the heck that body slam was. Everything about that hit just screams malice to me. Kind of passed the line of greasing him up in my opinion.
I would say that Knies was targeted right from the get-go. They wanted him out because they knew he was good and they made that happen with dirty checks.
@@keefersmotherland1308 it really is just BS. No sympathy is deserved anymore because the lack of professionalism in the industry is really showing right now
Honest question, why are cross-checks being allowed this year when the league said they were cracking down on cross-checking. Whether it be Bennet on Bunting, or in my case as a Knights fan, the corss-checks on Mark Stone.
They called them on the bruins all series plus Florida has way more penalties than the leafs and the leafs didn’t play the cleanest game. So all is fair in love and war
@@stephenaube9556 The officiating is truly the wild west. If all is fair in love and war (this is not directed at you), then it should be okay for a Golden Knights player to go knee on knee with mcDavid beacuse his leg injury is common knowledge, as is Mark Stone's back injury.
@@VIGLounge truly the refs have put away those whistles and the NHL will suffer for it. The panthers got away with murder in the bruins series and every little crosscheck was called on Boston. I don’t think Boston was the better team in that series but the refs were horrible. Lose a player like mcdavid that will only hurt hockey
so youre saying playing dirty and purposely hurting leafs players is okay and should be embraced? He literally takes knies head and slams it into the ice. How do you figure thats not a suspension?
@@Sattelight897 And that's precisely why the NHL League has been a joke to the world for sometime now. Because they allow idiots to concuss players with no recourse or punishment.
How do you beat a better skilled team in the playoffs? Play dirty. Not hard, not rough, but dirty. Panthers are doing this to a tee. And NHL is letting them get away with it. Not a leafs fan too. Cross check a guy in the head? Cross check a guy when he's already down? That's just dirty. And Kneis play is just disgusting. I don't understand why Leafs don't pay the Panthers back. Do this crap against Tkachuk and see how they like it.
Yes the leafs need to find a way to beat florida's cheating. Maybe they should smash tkatchuk in the knee with their stick and the retarded refs can look the other way and the retarded fans (not you) can say 'its just old school hockey bro' 😂
The Leafs are a much more skilled team over the Panthers. But who should have thought the NHL would allow illegal and deliberate wrestling in the NHL, just to concuss a prominent Leafs player. And still no suspension for the 🤡 Sam Bennett. The world is watching NHL, do the right thing and suspend that 🤡 for a min of 2 games.
"this is an experienced player greasing up a top rookie" jesus christ man that's unhinged. how can you say that with a straight face then go right into telling us he got a concussion from having his head slammed into the ice?
Hey CHUMP perhaps women's synchronized swimming is more suited for your G-Rated view of the world > And by the way Jesus has nothing to do with it also *CHUMP*
Putting aside the stupidty of Matthews getting 2 games from his cross check and Bennett getting nothing.... Bunting somehow gets 3 games for his hit in the first series, and Cernak's injury is cited as a factor in its severity.... Knies has a concussion from Bennett's greasy play.... which like Bunting's is designed to hurt..... nah, nothing, no factor. Fuck this league is an absolute joke. Consistency couldn't be worse if they were actively trying.
This isn't only Leafs fans angry over this. The officiating these NHL playoffs has let several series get out of hand, leaving referees and their interpretation of rules playing a major influence over a) how individual games play out and b) who remains eligible to contest the series after dirty plays cause injuries. It seems the NHL and DoPS think the way to "grow the game" is to tip the scales in favour of small market teams and arbitrary "parity" at the expense of actual competition. If I enjoyed massive body slams I'd watch UFC... though this sport has shades more similar to WWE nowadays.
If a shoulder check from bunting is 3 games for head contact. LITERALLY slamming Knie's head into the ice should be minimum 3 games for deliberate intent to injure. Also yeah if you aren't gonna suspend that crosscheck on Bunting that's at least 2 individual cross checking penalties.
@@encycl07pedia- Refs tried to give them this game to, toronto had like 7 power plays to floridas 1, and the only reason they got that one was the whole leafs team tripping one guy.
@@skullpheonix6 Nice! FLA has a good goalie. I'm jumping on the Panthers bandwagon for the rest of the playoffs as a Lightning fan. Hopefully the Cats can bring the Cup back to FL.
So he Sam B. raps the stick around his head.....then with his free left hand get the shaft of the stick and pulls down Knies...and no penalty....Mat T. elbow him Knies right in the head ...no penalty.... Sam B. cross check twice...no penalty....so Toronto should bring in Simmons for sure the next game....
He’a a complete dick, and I’d love to see him leave the ice on a stretcher, but he is also skilled With the terrible refereeing, dirty, fast and skilled is what’s needed..
This is a Brad Marchand facewash Sedin moment in 2011. Canucks did nothing about that. It turned the series. I am not in favour of fighting, goonery etc. But neither am I a fan of crosschecks and WWE body slams. What response will the Leafs have?
Bennett deserves to be suspended. These plays are dangerous, and are not hockey plays. They have nothing to do with the game. This isn't a matter of being 'soft' or 'gamesmanship' or whatever -- viciously cross-checking someone in the neck is insane. So is that whole Knies situation. He explained it like 'he got tied up in my arms' -- that's like punching someone in the face and saying 'they ran into my fist'. There's intent. It has no place in the game. The fact that the refs called him for just 2 minutes of penalties between these two plays is a whole other matter.
Last I heard, you can't tackle an opponent by grabbing them around the neck with a full clinch and then slam the back of their head to the ice. I think that move is exclusive to Roller ball circa 1975 sci-fi B movie.
Man liked most of the video, but saying smashing knives head off the ice isn't a big deal cause he's playing a strategy ( an illegal one both in hockey and the fact it's straight up assault) and be cause it it the playoffs is a joke. This whole no penalties in the playoffs bit is dumb cause if you have to slash, trip and play like that to win you aren't a better hockey team. Nit saying Florida is competing a ton of smaller infractions that need calling, but ones like this can't be taken lightly. Bennet injured knies for two games, and it's a head injury.
As a Devils fan, I said before the season ended that we probably wouldn't even be any better off playing Florida than playing the Rangers. I knew the Florida was a tough team to play against and their forwards were beasts on the forecheck. I felt like a fool after the first 2 games of the playoffs but it looks like I may end up being right.
As a pens fan I was obviously watching Fla and NYI on the final stretch of the reg season. Fla looked so determined and focused I knew they would get in. To be honest, was surprised Boston blew a 3-1 lead, wasn't surprised Fla won that series though. That was a scary team rolling into the playoffs.
@@SourBuddha We handled NJ really well in the regular though. If by some miracle it's FLA - NJ in the conference finals, I'm confident Panthers will clear it.
@@daturdburglar2261 as a fellow Pens fan since and because of the drafting of Jagr, you're right. Florida WAS getting in, and is wickedly underrated. They have speed, skill, tending (now with Lyon emerging they have 3 starters), and playing "playoff hockey" for 2-3 weeks before the playoffs began. Already playing that type of hockey going in gives you so much momentum and it keeps going. The games they lost to the Bruins weren't really all that far off as to where they got manhandled (per Canes ripping Devils new ones currently). The scores are not showing the "true" scores, or the play. The next round (it's going to be this, have to come to terms with it) is going to be crazy good, looooooonnnnngggg games between Florida and Carolina.
When you take into account the game is played exponentially faster and quicker than any other game there are bound to be more errors by officials. Not to mention the logistics and placement of officials is conducive to more errors or miscalls. In the NFL you have 7 on-fields officials who are situated on the playing field covering every single visual aspect. In MLB you have an UMP covering every base and in the playoffs you even have 2 more covering the lines. You can thank me later for helping you understand several reasons why it's tough to call an NHL game on a playing surface that is 200 x 85 feet long and wide. with 4 officials on the ice. Context > Basketball Court 94 feet by 50 feet
If you're going to do a breakdown on the evolution of the three Florida goals, don't omit Giordano's failure to track Lundell on the 1st Florida goal, his responsibility after Liljegren slings the puck around behind the net. Yes, Tavares blows a tire that helps Reinhart's back pass, but how Giordano fails to recognize the danger Lundell poses is, truly puzzling. The 2nd goal, which is the result of Nylander, a careless guy frequently & especially in, or near his D-zone, getting his lunch stolen by Duclair. What most people missed on TV, was a black & white, text-book trip by Barkov on O'Reilly a scant 10 feet away from the spot Nylander coughs up the puck. Barkov had his stick right in between O'Reilly's legs in a classic tripping foul called almost 100% of the time, but oddly, not that time. Who scores the goal? Barkov, the guy who has fouled the Leaf centre eliminating him from being able to defend the play. O'Reilly was pissed & let the ref know it right after the trip. Don't ever tell me non-calls on blatant fouls don't critically impact games. Should've been no goal & another Florida penalty. The 3rd Florida goal results from the too-cute-for-their-own-good pair of Marner & Matthews always pushing offensive creativity, but seemingly unable to recognize the times you cannot do that shit, EVER, which is in your own D-zone! Questionable pass from Marner considering Florida had just tied the game, but the real fuck-up is Matthews & his idiot, soft, high risk, flip pass within reach of Luostarinen, who knocked it down easily. Matthews then blows the D-zone coverage on his own blunder, moving to cover Tkachuck who Bunting is already moving toward. That leaves late guy into the zone, Forsling loose to score the go ahead goal. It's called game management, being aware of the score & when it's NOT appropriate to try risky plays. The Leafs have basically gifted Florida all 7 of the goals they've scored. You simply cannot play like that in the post-season & expect any kind of success. Hugely pissed-off.
1st goal was on Tavares not Gio. Blowing the tire was not the problem either. Under the circumstances of that play and the position of his teammates he absolutely cannot chase that puck behind the net. That is a stop at the post and defend against that pass coming out. I think JT realized his mistake chasing that which is why he lost his edge as he tried to stop up. One thing has been consistent with this team for a couple months now, JT and Nylander are the two biggest defensive liabilities on the team and we've seen it play out time and time again.
@@ScottGostick Nope. Lundell is Gio's guy. I played D. Jarnkrok's covering the high slot, so Tavares, regardless of whether he should, or shouldn't have been chasing Reinhart, is heading behind the Leaf net, so Giordano has to take Lundell & he just stood at the half wall & didn't react until it was way too late. He might've been gassed from the chase back down the ice from the Florida end where he'd pinched in, but couldn't keep the puck in the O-zone. Giordano's check all day long.
@@bigdave8437 That's a fair assessment on Gio but there's no threat from Lundell at that moment if JT plays it properly. Carrier has no pass option to Lundell if JT posts up there forcing the play around the net, allowing extra seconds for defensive recovery, Sammy covers the wrap and JT is in position to cover Lundell if he drives the net. JT was the only man back he absolutely cannot chase behind the net.
Panthers are on a heater. Leafs have to find a way to cool them out. Tough challenge, cuz when Panthers give up high danger chances, Bobrovsky mostly bails them out. But... win the next game and go from there. It can be done. Leafs showed that in the opening round.
@@lastword8783 awh poor lil leafs fan, you already forget about the last series and having to injure tampas defence to win? The double standards are crazy with delusional leafs fan like yourself
If the Leafs don’t come out with a good effort in game 3, Schenn and McCabe better start going medieval on the Bennett and Tkachuk. Not enough sticking up for their teammates in this series so far.
Toronto I think is playing as the Goodie-Two-Shoes, winning support by being as clean as possible, typical for an Underdog team. I want Toronto to win by being good players, not by being bullies and pests unlike Boston and Florida
If you make a dirty hit and the other player gets injured, you should automatically be suspended for the exact duration the injured player is out. The refs are a joke, and player safety is incapable of making consistent suspensions.
I've felt this way for decades! How about the offending player pays the salary of the injured player for the number of games they're out of the lineup, plus their medical bills? When it comes to plays like getting cross-checked on the neck, or what Bennett did to Knies, there need to be criminal charges. If the refs and the league aren't willing to police players, let's get the actual police involved more often.
@haydensaunders3486 I'm a Flames fan lol. Either way, I don't understand why dickheads like Cooke can run around ending other players careers while getting a 3 game suspension. Maybe if there were actual consequences to their actions they wouldn't play like fucking morons.
I've been expecting a player to get severely-injured in the playoffs for years, hoping that it might finally make the NHLcome to its senses. Until a dirty play results in a player getting paralyzed or killed, the league won't enforce its own rules.
This is playoff hockey. It's often very ugly but if you track back all the Cup winners, I can guarantee you have a few dirty plays on the path to 16 wins.
@@KiteQ444 I thought he got called for the cross check, or at least someone took a penalty on the play. At least that's what I remember. The play on Knies was bad, but it was actually quite similar to a play on Gudas.
Matthew's crosscheck is not the same as Bennett's crosscheck. Bennett gave him a shot, and it was pretty hard, probably should have been a penalty. Matthew's crosscheck was 100% intended to injure. That is the difference.
Everything about how the Leafs implode is spectacular. They may even get swept but for some of us beating Tampa was our own little mini-cup after years of torture. I have zero expectations for winning now but someone please at least level Bennett with a clean check or two and thank that awesome rookie for bringing so much skill & passion to the rink.
Toronto plays tough too, but you don't see them illegally pounding other players on purpose to get them injured and out of they game. No No, that's just Florida, they need to cheat to advance. That's why the NHL is a joke outside North America.
TB wasn't at full strength, and the Leafs were lucky to win a couple of games. How about someone slashes Bennett on the ankle and puts him out for a few games? As Conn Smythe used to say, you won't beat them on the ice if you can't beat them in the alley. Leafs never go out with a bang, they go out with a whimper,
I am not a leafs fan, not even close to a top 10 favorite team of mine....but players like Sam Bennett give off that Raffi Torres vibe and I thought hockey was past that.
I doubt grabbing someone and forcefully body slamming their head into the ice is a hockey move. Looks more like WWE move and it a) should of been whistled and b) he should of been suspended. Bunting got 3 days for his elbow thing (and not saying he shouldn't of, that's fine) but this guy can directly body-slam someone into the ice and that's fine?? Make it make sense.... and it is not only this game I can't rememebr the players but didnt some guy outright break a guys neck, and that did not get a call either??? Those are career ending moves
Holy fucking shit Bennett is the new Marchand, literally body slamming Knies and pushing Bunting down, that should be a suspension! You can't just do that!
There should be at leasr a 2 game suspension on bennett. what is wrong with leaf management not speaking up to the league. if fined they have the money to pay. ask a fan what if cost them to get a ticket. the fans deservr better!!!!
I am dressing Wayne Simmonds for game 3 just to send and hopefully deliver a message to Bennet, Goudas and Tachuck, who cares if we go down 3-0, I want to see those boys 'Spitting Chicklets'.
@@encycl07pedia- Bunting got a 3 game suspension let me guess you just wanted to post ur 2 cents and did not care if what u said was stupid or not right ?
It's the playoffs, drop the ball and you will get punished for it, doesn't matter who the team is. Leafs need to stop celebrating their round 1 win and start getting serious. If they do not win one game in Florida, they are done like dinner.
This series is over. The Leafs NEVER had the heart to win since 1993. 53 year old Leaf fan since i was a kid and im done with them for good. Tired of decades of disappointment.
Know what leafs do? Fold. Nothing makes a Floridian happier than sending Canadians home. If Toronto wasn't so soft they would have fought Bennett right after he did that stuff.
Can’t be cute with the puck in playoffs.. have to get it deep, go low to high with shots and confusion around net it’s simple the players just have to execute as pros getting paid millions 🤷🏽♂️
Sam Bennett is the Claude Lemieux type player that the Panthers were lacking for years. They have skill, speed, discipline, conditioning and and hockey smarts. Now they are tougher than previously. I don't know how far it will take them but if they do make it to the finals, like 1997, this time they will be coming with scorers.
If this was back in the day, even 10-15 years ago this would have been more legit because the leafs would have had an enforcer to come and sort it out after the hit. The reason i bring this up is because in a league that has essentially faded out the role of the enforcer, tougher teams are willing to take more serious liberties with players, especially if they are green like Knies. There just isn’t the same amount of order now and the game suffers. If this was 2002, Tucker or Domi or Corson would have been all over the Panthers.
I've been watching playoff hockey since at least 1970. I was 8 when I walked into my dad's bedroom to see what all the cheering was about in 1967 and saw the Leafs hoisting the cup. The one thing I've learned is that playoff hockey is what it is. One player's hit is another player's penalty. The same take down behind the net can win the puck or it can injure a player. I still don't understand why the referee was punished for calling a penalty on the Golden Knights player for body slamming the Sharks player on the ice which also resulted in a concussion and missed games. How is the Knives take down different from the Leafs take down of the Panther player a few minutes earlier in the game when everyone cheered? I watcher the Flyers manhandle every team in the mid-1970s. It was the most brutal hockey you'll ever see and they have 2 cups to show for it. I'm not saying all is fair in love and hockey. Freak accidents happen. All you can do is hope the scales balance. Sometimes they do. Sometimes they don't. In hockey the bad guys often win. They're not the 'dirty' players. They're just the ones who don't wear your home jersey.
It seems pretty straightforward. If a penalty results in an injury that causes a player to miss games, the penalty includes suspension until the injured player returns. I've been touting that solution since Dale Hunter knocked Pierre Turgeon out of the playoffs in '93.
i think the fine is good enough. watching the reply it doesnt compare to matthew suspension. in Matthew's cross check he targets the player and attacks the head with intention. if you watch bennett, hes not even looking where hes hitting and delivers with alot less intensity. as for the behind the net play, sure that couldve been a penalty but its not a suspension, hes just roughing him up. normal play in the playoffs. kings did this a couple times to mcdavid last series. just unfortunate knies is injured
The Panthers are playing the odds against a more skilled team again. Take the penalties and fight them off no matter how many. Injure and intimidate the best players on the opposite side. Their strategy is basically the movie 'Slapshot'. Goon hockey lives...
@@sommebuddy I agree for the most part, I would say samsanov is alright, maybe not round two playoffs, but he’s good, I mean even top end goalies have some bad games. Panthers goal tending has been bad in the series as well. Coaching is passionate but perhaps a bit soft, and yeah the top players are a little soft, or just bad defense to protect the talent, they don’t play as a cohesive team, because there is talent on this team, but only really as individuals and less so as a team. Kadri left the leafs and instantly won a cup, so I’m not going to blame players in this one.
Why are people SO shocked by what Florida is doing? Vezina goalie. Great team support. Relentless forecheck. VERY opportunistic. Were one of the hottest teams February on. LAST years presidents trophy winners and they are arguably better this year on paper. I don't understand how people are so shocked
@@iamcowhearmemoo2553 yeah but Boston should have had it, embarrassing choke from them. Florida vs leafs is a fair match up, leafs just can’t beat the goalie, or maybe trying to hard to that they forget about defence, Florida is a much better team overall, leafs have some more individual talent but means nothing in a team sport.
Stone got crosschecked multiple times the other night. No calls. Bennett doing what he was doing. No calls. There Is a reason the NHL views are down so much. The penalties don't get called properly lol.
yep, life long hockey fans are turning their TV sets off and watching darts instead or maybe even professional rock climbing tournaments because the refs wont make calls. Time to burn your jerseys and throw away all of your memorabilia. Hockey is over.
Did anyone else notice how far down Benett's hand is from the top of the stick when he hits Bunting? In my mind that's an intentional attempt to injury Bunting and to try and get him to retaliate. Immediately after the hit Benett's hand moves to the top of the stick handle and he only got a $5,000 fine. This guy knew exactly what he was doing to Bunting and to Knie. The refs need to crack down on this type of behavior!!
My thoughts exactly from a fellow Bruins fan. Their forecheck is too much it seems for the Leafs. Didn't think the cats could make a breakout look worse than bostons in the first round and here i am wrong lol
As a B's fan, I know I will cop all kinds of flack and be told to cope (that's fine, I'm already on to next year. Panthers did play well), but I have to say Bennet, Gudas and to an extent Tkachuk got away with a lot in the first round. Gudas had about 4 blatant missed interference calls in game 1 alone. I know no one cares because he mainly targeted Marchand, but there were several instances where he crosschecked players in the back to the ground and then sat on them when the puck was on the other side of the ice and nothing was called. Bennet had some dirty hits too. I get it with playoff hockey and blah blah blah, but the frustration at the time only comes from the CONSISTENCY of the league. Other calls in the series like the 'hand pass' goal, yet the Kings had a clear high stick play turn goal only the night before where both were reviewed yet the Kings goal stood etc. I know officials can't get it right every time but this year in it's entirety has been so inconsistent with cross checking, charging, kicking motions, goalie interference etc I feel like the league just needs to pick what they actually want and stick with it.
NHL Playoffs officiating is an embarrassment. It shouldn't be any different versus the Regular Season. That's the problem with the NHL and why most of the world thinks it's a joke of a league. Does the NHL stack up to Leagues like the MLB? NFL? FIFA? NBA? Absolutely Not, because a Penalty is a Penalty, regardless of Playoffs or Regular Season. Why does the NHL allow Bullies to deliberately harm NHL players? Especially the key difference makers? Exactly why the NHL is a Joke.
I got the feeling they were targeting Knies: Tkachuk hit him with an elbow to the head, Bennett ran his head into the ice, (if you watch carefully). Time for Luke Schenn to have the kids back. Best revenge is get pissed off and win the series.
Best revenge is to punch out or injure those bastards. Only 15% of teams down 2-0 make it to the next round, and the Leafs are wimps and will bow out this coming week.
@@melvynobrien6193 ... I think they'll do better on the road. Revenge for Knies. So I guess a $5k fine for Bennet means "nothing happened"... still a cheap shot and a cheap fine. Summon the Simmons !
Bennett - 3 game suspension for combined infractions. He punched Knies, rammed his head into the glass, and propelled him down to the ice. Then, he neck checked Bunting, which drew a minor penalty and a $5 fine, which amounts to about 3 shifts of playing time for him financially. Matthew’s got 2 games for the same neck check.
I'm an American and i can't believe how many Canadian residents (Other than people from Ontario) that cheer against The Leafs. A lot of Canadians would rather have an American Team win the Stanley Cup other than Toronto.
Both of these were disgusting plays. The bias in this league is unacceptably putrid, and no team is safe from this BS. I don't care which team you support, we should all be railing for this corruption to be exorcised from the NHL forever. Also, I think the Knies hit should result in a 4 game suspension for Bennett.
As much as your right on most of your points, there IS bias, and it's running rampant league-wide; moreover, it's in incompetent referees who cannot tell right from wrong, and clearly want to influence the games. It's obvious, FFS.🙄
Management from a majority of NHL teams need to band together and demand reforms to the performance of refs in the league., and refuse to put teams on the ice unless things get cleaned up by the refs. This means the firing of many many officials. That ref hot moment I heard last night (sorry don't recall where I viewed it), speaks volumes. We are talking about the welfare of players out there. Kick all the JUNK refs to the curb. They know who they are.
At least in minor hockey you can get 5, a game and suspended for "intent to injure". What Bennett did to Knies was clearly done with the intent to injure him and now the Leafs are without a top 6 forward for at least 2 games while all Bennett gets is a $5,000 fine for a completely different cheap shot... Yeah I think the Leafs have every right to be pissed off.
This shouldn't be a "Leafs fan" thing. Nobody should want these non-hockey plays that lead to severe injuries to be in the game.
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are you kidding? laughing at the Leafs when they complain about getting "bad calls" is the only reason the rest of the league is still watching them.
@@JuandeFucaU This is about an injured rookie due to an avoidable play not a missed tripping penalty.
@@MrKleenexDude how about Knies needs to learn his place and know when he’s beat. You guys are acting like Bennett repeatedly slammed Knies head into the ice, they got tangled, Bennett checked him into the boards, and they fell (awkwardly for Knies)
@@MrKleenexDude I'll give you a tissue.....
sorry I used it already while watching some porn.
It's insane how people conflate tough hard-hitting playoff hockey with dirty hits. If a dude is cross checking someone over and over again, when the puck is nowhere in sight, the ref needs to call a penalty.
They kind of called them in last years playoffs because of the Kuckerov broken ribs thing from the year before, but they really seem to have walked it back. I cannot understand it. Trust me, I want Florida to win, that's a 5 and a game play by Bennett though.
@viperswhip I have no stake in this series. I'm a VGK fan, but I'm seeing the Oilers players do it to Stone's back on numerous shifts, and we know why they're doing it. I saw this video, and it just shows that the refs are ignoring this shit in every game. What happens when a fourth liner from the Knights decides he's had enough and he takes out McDavid bad leg?
They did call a penalty
Depends who the ref needs to win , dirty NHL
Also they player getting crosschecked needs to stand up for themself and drop the gloves IMO. If an aggressive team sees they can do that with no pushback they'll keep doing it.
im just pissed that knies is injured like cmon
Obviously, they decided to get him out of the series. Mission accompliahed.
Yup...he already has a reputation of being soft.
@@jeremysametz1699 sorry but no, the NHL keeps hurting the careers and potential of talented players by allowing injurious play to go unpunished. Crosby lost how many games to concussions? The NHL should be held accountable for the long term impacts of allowing so many concussions. Sure it’s a fast game but that takedown was not a hockey play it was thuggery (not a leafs fan and I usually relish in seeing them lose)
@@jeremysametz1699 How is getting a concussion getting a reputation for being soft? I'm not even a leafs fan but come on. That's a stupid comment.
It was by design
Every year the refs put away their whistles during the playoffs, and every year people are surprised at all the non-calls. I've said it before but the NHL is the only sport that has 2 sets of rules -- one for the regular season and another for playoffs. This is why you hear about teams that are "built for the playoffs" They have size and able to play the body hard. Toronto is not one of those teams.
4 years later, I am still mad about the non-call on Acciari during bruins vs. blues series!!!
@@foreverinhandstand9456 try the memories from the Vancouver V Boston series. That was a joke.
Which is the fundamental flaw of the NHL 'let the players play' sounds like 'I'm gonna let a team cheat'
If you see it, call it.
I've said this all the time - they need more size in the lineup - need to have players who can throw more hits and be tough on the boards and have an enforcer
@@HockeyRiveNord if the other team is taking advantage of you then you gotta stick up for your team and do something back later in the game. Stop whining and get better
The worst part is how skill is marketed in the season, to only be riding backseat to savagery in the playoffs. Some of these plays are dirty and the dirt goes both ways. But particularly for teams like the oilers the hacking and slashing on mcjesus would never fly in the season, and the NHL carries over to the playoffs and suddenly stops calling things the same. I love the game, but as I get older and the bruisers are chased from the game in general I don't see the same need for non calls in the playoffs. Should just call the game. If you want the NHL to be a skill game, the skill should be rewarded. Just my 2 cents
Fully agree, it turns off lifelong hockey fans from watching. I love playoff hockey, but If the refs don't have control of the game it's no longer about who the better team is, it's just who can do a wwe move on the ice to injure the other team because they know they'll get away with it.
Give knies my brain
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So real for this
This kids is so good. Shame they head hunted that kid for playing the game
@@historicinematics that’s what he gets for pretending to be good enough for the playoffs 😂
concussion to no concussion but 100 iq to 70 iq, worth the tradeoff?
Bruins fans are saying “not so easy , eh?”
Most Bruins fans aren't Canadian, I think.
I wasn't impressed with the Bruins, injuries, whatever, who doesn't. If your starter is hurt, put the other guy in game 5 or 6. Not in a game 7. That's on the coach. Most points ever, big deal.
Leaf fans should be pissed because NO ONE came to Knies defense. Knies is Toronto's best player right now and now he's out. If you're a Leaf fan, you should be screaming at all of Knies team mates that left him out to dry. If Toronto did that to ANY Florida player, any mother of a Florida player would have stepped in. Send a message Sheldon, DRESS WAYNE SIMMONDS.
I agree 100%. Back in the day Bennett would have got knocked out for that move. He'd be sucking his food through a straw the rest of the summer. I love the Leafs but they're a bunch of pussies.
The kids out with a concussion, That was not a hockey play that was not giving the guy an extra shot after you make the play. He directs Knies head into the glass with his fore arm on the initial hit. Then follows it up with whatever the heck that body slam was. Everything about that hit just screams malice to me. Kind of passed the line of greasing him up in my opinion.
Quick call a Whaaaaambulance
I would say that Knies was targeted right from the get-go. They wanted him out because they knew he was good and they made that happen with dirty checks.
You obviously don’t know hockey or have ever played
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@@joebot9309 If you think that was a hockey play you dont know anything
“That’s what it takes in the playoffs” ah yes causing a major trauma to the head via a literal wrestling move is what playoff hockey entails.
yup .. according to the NHL thats a hockey play. Well I have no sympathy left for the NHL when they have to pay for the concussion lawsuits.
@@keefersmotherland1308 it really is just BS. No sympathy is deserved anymore because the lack of professionalism in the industry is really showing right now
@@unnstoppablefuryright now? When has it not been about this dirty stuff?
Bunting did the same thing tho...
@@jordanc2844 and was he not suspended 3 games?
Honest question, why are cross-checks being allowed this year when the league said they were cracking down on cross-checking. Whether it be Bennet on Bunting, or in my case as a Knights fan, the corss-checks on Mark Stone.
They probably realized last year that cracking down on cross-checking got them more trouble.
They called them on the bruins all series plus Florida has way more penalties than the leafs and the leafs didn’t play the cleanest game. So all is fair in love and war
@@stephenaube9556 The officiating is truly the wild west. If all is fair in love and war (this is not directed at you), then it should be okay for a Golden Knights player to go knee on knee with mcDavid beacuse his leg injury is common knowledge, as is Mark Stone's back injury.
@@VIGLounge truly the refs have put away those whistles and the NHL will suffer for it. The panthers got away with murder in the bruins series and every little crosscheck was called on Boston. I don’t think Boston was the better team in that series but the refs were horrible. Lose a player like mcdavid that will only hurt hockey
Rookies never get calls.
so youre saying playing dirty and purposely hurting leafs players is okay and should be embraced? He literally takes knies head and slams it into the ice. How do you figure thats not a suspension?
Yea what a terrible take. By that logic, guys should act like WWE wrestlers cause you gotta do what you gotta do to win right?
Wrestling Moves by Sam Bennett? That's a Suspension and that's the Call the NHL better make or the world will continue to snuff the NHL.
He essentially said "you might not like it but injuring players on dirty plays is what it takes in the playoffs" Wtfff lol
@@Sattelight897 And that's precisely why the NHL League has been a joke to the world for sometime now. Because they allow idiots to concuss players with no recourse or punishment.
How do you beat a better skilled team in the playoffs? Play dirty. Not hard, not rough, but dirty. Panthers are doing this to a tee. And NHL is letting them get away with it. Not a leafs fan too. Cross check a guy in the head? Cross check a guy when he's already down? That's just dirty. And Kneis play is just disgusting. I don't understand why Leafs don't pay the Panthers back. Do this crap against Tkachuk and see how they like it.
leaf fans should be concerned. Theyre looking like bruins vs panthers all over again but without the chance.
Yes the leafs need to find a way to beat florida's cheating. Maybe they should smash tkatchuk in the knee with their stick and the retarded refs can look the other way and the retarded fans (not you) can say 'its just old school hockey bro' 😂
The Leafs are a much more skilled team over the Panthers. But who should have thought the NHL would allow illegal and deliberate wrestling in the NHL, just to concuss a prominent Leafs player. And still no suspension for the 🤡 Sam Bennett. The world is watching NHL, do the right thing and suspend that 🤡 for a min of 2 games.
@@nickt6595 🤣
@Nick T they are better and losing? Something doesn't compute with that statement.
@@nickt6595 someones upset now that your team isn't hurting players eh? the leafs tried taking out 3 lightning players and only 1 was punished 🤡
"this is an experienced player greasing up a top rookie" jesus christ man that's unhinged. how can you say that with a straight face then go right into telling us he got a concussion from having his head slammed into the ice?
Hey CHUMP perhaps women's synchronized swimming is more suited for your G-Rated view of the world > And by the way Jesus has nothing to do with it also *CHUMP*
Yeah He did this to himself He must be a masochist ahhh those young players
should not be suspended for giving someone a concussion. wow
Intentionally giving someone a concussion, you don't slam someone's head like that without intent to injure
@@Dev3000 he slammed him down, didn't intent to hit his head
Had him in headlock! Sure looked like he was wrestling him down head first.
Putting aside the stupidty of Matthews getting 2 games from his cross check and Bennett getting nothing.... Bunting somehow gets 3 games for his hit in the first series, and Cernak's injury is cited as a factor in its severity.... Knies has a concussion from Bennett's greasy play.... which like Bunting's is designed to hurt..... nah, nothing, no factor. Fuck this league is an absolute joke. Consistency couldn't be worse if they were actively trying.
This isn't only Leafs fans angry over this.
The officiating these NHL playoffs has let several series get out of hand, leaving referees and their interpretation of rules playing a major influence over a) how individual games play out and b) who remains eligible to contest the series after dirty plays cause injuries.
It seems the NHL and DoPS think the way to "grow the game" is to tip the scales in favour of small market teams and arbitrary "parity" at the expense of actual competition. If I enjoyed massive body slams I'd watch UFC... though this sport has shades more similar to WWE nowadays.
U sound pretty mad lol 😂
Define “get out of hand”
It's old school hockey and I love it.
@@oldsrocket8841 old school hockey was more about clean hits and fights. This shit is just straight up cheating.
@@lastword8783 Then fight.
Dress Simmons to have a ‘chat’ with Bennet.
Simmons won't be able to catch him
If the refs do not get it right, you would think that the league reviewing it would.
If a shoulder check from bunting is 3 games for head contact. LITERALLY slamming Knie's head into the ice should be minimum 3 games for deliberate intent to injure. Also yeah if you aren't gonna suspend that crosscheck on Bunting that's at least 2 individual cross checking penalties.
Toronto won all 3 games without Bunting. lol. The refs gave you that series already. Do you need them to give you another one?
@@encycl07pedia- Refs tried to give them this game to, toronto had like 7 power plays to floridas 1, and the only reason they got that one was the whole leafs team tripping one guy.
@@skullpheonix6 Nice! FLA has a good goalie. I'm jumping on the Panthers bandwagon for the rest of the playoffs as a Lightning fan. Hopefully the Cats can bring the Cup back to FL.
@@skullpheonix6 Not even a week later and the refs literally assist on a toronto goal to win them a game LOL
The Bennet play on Knies looked like a wrestling move. Smh
yup sure did
So he Sam B. raps the stick around his head.....then with his free left hand get the shaft of the stick and pulls down Knies...and no penalty....Mat T. elbow him Knies right in the head ...no penalty.... Sam B. cross check twice...no penalty....so Toronto should bring in Simmons for sure the next game....
That pass by Reinhart was wild
Hod no idea what even happened in real time, absolutely incredible
Kuzy style
They did it like five more times that game, that's a set play for sure
He’a a complete dick, and I’d love to see him leave the ice on a stretcher, but he is also skilled
With the terrible refereeing, dirty, fast and skilled is what’s needed..
The Panthers are playing their game well and as a Bruins fan rooting for the Leafs, I can't deny the Panthers will take this series
😆😆😆 glad to hear im not the only Bruins fan cheering on Florida
@@echo1218 (read his sentence again, he's cheering for the Laffs)
id say you arent a real bruins fan if you`re cheering for toronto
4 straight.
This series looks familiar ~Bruins fan
Need to take Wayne Simmons to miami and turn him loose on the fl defensemen.
SOMEONE WHO THINKS LIKE ME !!!
BUT THEY NEED TO GET HIM BACK - HE REFUSED TO PLAY FOR THE MARLIES IN THE AHL and is now not in GAME SHAPE.
This is a Brad Marchand facewash Sedin moment in 2011. Canucks did nothing about that. It turned the series. I am not in favour of fighting, goonery etc. But neither am I a fan of crosschecks and WWE body slams. What response will the Leafs have?
20 bucks 5 minute major if a leafs player does the same.😂
@@lastword8783 leafs fan genuinely never stop with the excuses😂😂
Well, they had none.
Bennett deserves to be suspended. These plays are dangerous, and are not hockey plays. They have nothing to do with the game. This isn't a matter of being 'soft' or 'gamesmanship' or whatever -- viciously cross-checking someone in the neck is insane. So is that whole Knies situation. He explained it like 'he got tied up in my arms' -- that's like punching someone in the face and saying 'they ran into my fist'. There's intent. It has no place in the game. The fact that the refs called him for just 2 minutes of penalties between these two plays is a whole other matter.
Cry More Cindy 😭😢
Leaf fan here im not pissed man up and fight.
Its Simmons time!
Last I heard, you can't tackle an opponent by grabbing them around the neck with a full clinch and then slam the back of their head to the ice. I think that move is exclusive to Roller ball circa 1975 sci-fi B movie.
Fuckin great movie.
Man liked most of the video, but saying smashing knives head off the ice isn't a big deal cause he's playing a strategy ( an illegal one both in hockey and the fact it's straight up assault) and be cause it it the playoffs is a joke. This whole no penalties in the playoffs bit is dumb cause if you have to slash, trip and play like that to win you aren't a better hockey team. Nit saying Florida is competing a ton of smaller infractions that need calling, but ones like this can't be taken lightly. Bennet injured knies for two games, and it's a head injury.
And they should be. Eberle fracturing Cogliano's neck with zero discipline, now this bs from the dops
As a Devils fan, I said before the season ended that we probably wouldn't even be any better off playing Florida than playing the Rangers. I knew the Florida was a tough team to play against and their forwards were beasts on the forecheck. I felt like a fool after the first 2 games of the playoffs but it looks like I may end up being right.
Last years president trophy winners dont sleep on the Cats
As a pens fan I was obviously watching Fla and NYI on the final stretch of the reg season. Fla looked so determined and focused I knew they would get in. To be honest, was surprised Boston blew a 3-1 lead, wasn't surprised Fla won that series though. That was a scary team rolling into the playoffs.
As a florida fan im glad we didnt get nj lol. Your speed worries me.
@@SourBuddha We handled NJ really well in the regular though. If by some miracle it's FLA - NJ in the conference finals, I'm confident Panthers will clear it.
@@daturdburglar2261 as a fellow Pens fan since and because of the drafting of Jagr, you're right. Florida WAS getting in, and is wickedly underrated.
They have speed, skill, tending (now with Lyon emerging they have 3 starters), and playing "playoff hockey" for 2-3 weeks before the playoffs began.
Already playing that type of hockey going in gives you so much momentum and it keeps going.
The games they lost to the Bruins weren't really all that far off as to where they got manhandled (per Canes ripping Devils new ones currently). The scores are not showing the "true" scores, or the play.
The next round (it's going to be this, have to come to terms with it) is going to be crazy good, looooooonnnnngggg games between Florida and Carolina.
Leaf fans should be pissed that their team is full of chokers
And Pansies
No matter what team you cheer for, I think most hockey fans can agree that NHL officiating is the worst of the four major sports.
Big time horrible
Thats REALLY saying something when MLB is involved lol
Basketball and Baseball are worse
When you take into account the game is played exponentially faster and quicker than any other game there are bound to be more errors by officials. Not to mention the logistics and placement of officials is conducive to more errors or miscalls. In the NFL you have 7 on-fields officials who are situated on the playing field covering every single visual aspect. In MLB you have an UMP covering every base and in the playoffs you even have 2 more covering the lines. You can thank me later for helping you understand several reasons why it's tough to call an NHL game on a playing surface that is 200 x 85 feet long and wide. with 4 officials on the ice.
Context > Basketball Court 94 feet by 50 feet
bro Football is literally rigged through officiating. how is the NFL not clearly the worst reffing
If you're going to do a breakdown on the evolution of the three Florida goals, don't omit Giordano's failure to track Lundell on the 1st Florida goal, his responsibility after Liljegren slings the puck around behind the net. Yes, Tavares blows a tire that helps Reinhart's back pass, but how Giordano fails to recognize the danger Lundell poses is, truly puzzling.
The 2nd goal, which is the result of Nylander, a careless guy frequently & especially in, or near his D-zone, getting his lunch stolen by Duclair. What most people missed on TV, was a black & white, text-book trip by Barkov on O'Reilly a scant 10 feet away from the spot Nylander coughs up the puck. Barkov had his stick right in between O'Reilly's legs in a classic tripping foul called almost 100% of the time, but oddly, not that time. Who scores the goal? Barkov, the guy who has fouled the Leaf centre eliminating him from being able to defend the play. O'Reilly was pissed & let the ref know it right after the trip. Don't ever tell me non-calls on blatant fouls don't critically impact games. Should've been no goal & another Florida penalty.
The 3rd Florida goal results from the too-cute-for-their-own-good pair of Marner & Matthews always pushing offensive creativity, but seemingly unable to recognize the times you cannot do that shit, EVER, which is in your own D-zone! Questionable pass from Marner considering Florida had just tied the game, but the real fuck-up is Matthews & his idiot, soft, high risk, flip pass within reach of Luostarinen, who knocked it down easily. Matthews then blows the D-zone coverage on his own blunder, moving to cover Tkachuck who Bunting is already moving toward. That leaves late guy into the zone, Forsling loose to score the go ahead goal. It's called game management, being aware of the score & when it's NOT appropriate to try risky plays. The Leafs have basically gifted Florida all 7 of the goals they've scored. You simply cannot play like that in the post-season & expect any kind of success. Hugely pissed-off.
1st goal was on Tavares not Gio. Blowing the tire was not the problem either. Under the circumstances of that play and the position of his teammates he absolutely cannot chase that puck behind the net. That is a stop at the post and defend against that pass coming out. I think JT realized his mistake chasing that which is why he lost his edge as he tried to stop up. One thing has been consistent with this team for a couple months now, JT and Nylander are the two biggest defensive liabilities on the team and we've seen it play out time and time again.
@@ScottGostick Nope. Lundell is Gio's guy. I played D. Jarnkrok's covering the high slot, so Tavares, regardless of whether he should, or shouldn't have been chasing Reinhart, is heading behind the Leaf net, so Giordano has to take Lundell & he just stood at the half wall & didn't react until it was way too late. He might've been gassed from the chase back down the ice from the Florida end where he'd pinched in, but couldn't keep the puck in the O-zone. Giordano's check all day long.
Canadian based teams are not allowed to win another cup. It'll be 30 years without, unless something changes. But we will see how things pan out
Can't really blame a 39 year old.
@@bigdave8437 That's a fair assessment on Gio but there's no threat from Lundell at that moment if JT plays it properly. Carrier has no pass option to Lundell if JT posts up there forcing the play around the net, allowing extra seconds for defensive recovery, Sammy covers the wrap and JT is in position to cover Lundell if he drives the net. JT was the only man back he absolutely cannot chase behind the net.
This is exactly how the 2019 Blues won the cup. The league thinks most fans are ok with this stuff, hence the baby fine on Bennett.
Panthers are on a heater. Leafs have to find a way to cool them out. Tough challenge, cuz when Panthers give up high danger chances, Bobrovsky mostly bails them out. But... win the next game and go from there. It can be done. Leafs showed that in the opening round.
Its easy to be on a heater when your players can get away with murder.
@@lastword8783 Says the Maple Cheats fan. Injured two of TB's best players and only got one troublemaker suspended for 3 games: all wins for Toronto.
@@lastword8783 awh poor lil leafs fan, you already forget about the last series and having to injure tampas defence to win? The double standards are crazy with delusional leafs fan like yourself
@@lastword8783 Yeah, Panthers did get away with some shit in that game. Not sure about other games they've played.
If the Leafs don’t come out with a good effort in game 3, Schenn and McCabe better start going medieval on the Bennett and Tkachuk. Not enough sticking up for their teammates in this series so far.
Refs are waiting for that. Toronto will get heavily penalized.
Toronto I think is playing as the Goodie-Two-Shoes, winning support by being as clean as possible, typical for an Underdog team. I want Toronto to win by being good players, not by being bullies and pests unlike Boston and Florida
@@coastaku1954 agreed on the clean play but they will need a bit better goaltending to win or score 5/6 goals a night.
@@thebigpicture2032 Also that, you don't win a cup cause of good behavior
Bruh game him a legit rock bottom on the ice
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Finally THE ROCK has returned to Toronto
If you make a dirty hit and the other player gets injured, you should automatically be suspended for the exact duration the injured player is out. The refs are a joke, and player safety is incapable of making consistent suspensions.
Or does this only work if it’s agaisnt the leafs
Okay so bunting just shouldnt have a career anymore with that logic
I've felt this way for decades! How about the offending player pays the salary of the injured player for the number of games they're out of the lineup, plus their medical bills?
When it comes to plays like getting cross-checked on the neck, or what Bennett did to Knies, there need to be criminal charges. If the refs and the league aren't willing to police players, let's get the actual police involved more often.
@@Willowflat16 🤣
@haydensaunders3486 I'm a Flames fan lol. Either way, I don't understand why dickheads like Cooke can run around ending other players careers while getting a 3 game suspension. Maybe if there were actual consequences to their actions they wouldn't play like fucking morons.
How does bennet not get suspended with his history
Even as a Panthers Fan i think Bennett should get at least a 1 game suspension.
plays like this are dangerous. Unfortunately it falls on the refs, if they cant control the game anything goes
I've been expecting a player to get severely-injured in the playoffs for years, hoping that it might finally make the NHLcome to its senses. Until a dirty play results in a player getting paralyzed or killed, the league won't enforce its own rules.
This is playoff hockey. It's often very ugly but if you track back all the Cup winners, I can guarantee you have a few dirty plays on the path to 16 wins.
Still gotta call obvious calls it’s like cross checking doesn’t exist as a penalty anymore
@@KiteQ444 I thought he got called for the cross check, or at least someone took a penalty on the play. At least that's what I remember.
The play on Knies was bad, but it was actually quite similar to a play on Gudas.
@@Whitesquall123 Mathew’s got suspended 2 games earlier in the year for a very similar cross check
Matthew's crosscheck is not the same as Bennett's crosscheck.
Bennett gave him a shot, and it was pretty hard, probably should have been a penalty.
Matthew's crosscheck was 100% intended to injure.
That is the difference.
Any time you cross check someone in the head the intent is to injure and what about the second one when he is on the ice? 🤡
Everything about how the Leafs implode is spectacular. They may even get swept but for some of us beating Tampa was our own little mini-cup after years of torture. I have zero expectations for winning now but someone please at least level Bennett with a clean check or two and thank that awesome rookie for bringing so much skill & passion to the rink.
Toronto plays tough too, but you don't see them illegally pounding other players on purpose to get them injured and out of they game. No No, that's just Florida, they need to cheat to advance. That's why the NHL is a joke outside North America.
TB wasn't at full strength, and the Leafs were lucky to win a couple of games. How about someone slashes Bennett on the ankle and puts him out for a few games? As Conn Smythe used to say, you won't beat them on the ice if you can't beat them in the alley. Leafs never go out with a bang, they go out with a whimper,
@@melvynobrien6193 An Illegal hit is an Illegal hit designed to hurt another player.
That's why the world will never take the NHL league serious.
@@nickt6595 if your don’t like the NHL then were glad to see you leave because you clearly don’t understand what it takes to win a Stanley cup
@@calvinilkay1067 OK 🤡
I am not a leafs fan, not even close to a top 10 favorite team of mine....but players like Sam Bennett give off that Raffi Torres vibe and I thought hockey was past that.
I doubt grabbing someone and forcefully body slamming their head into the ice is a hockey move. Looks more like WWE move and it a) should of been whistled and b) he should of been suspended. Bunting got 3 days for his elbow thing (and not saying he shouldn't of, that's fine) but this guy can directly body-slam someone into the ice and that's fine?? Make it make sense.... and it is not only this game I can't rememebr the players but didnt some guy outright break a guys neck, and that did not get a call either??? Those are career ending moves
Cry More 😭😢
You should to a vid on Eberle literally breaking cogliano's neck and the fact that he hasn't been punished at all.
Holy fucking shit Bennett is the new Marchand, literally body slamming Knies and pushing Bunting down, that should be a suspension! You can't just do that!
leafs will NEVER win the cup with tavares. He is cursed.
Getting pissed is not enough! Give it back to the Panthers. Poor rookie no one in that fluffy Leafs team has his back.
Leafs won their one series. Come back in 20yrs.
Kyle Duffus sure appears worried in the press box.
Chanting We want Panthers😂😂😂
There should be at leasr a 2 game suspension on bennett. what is wrong with leaf management not speaking up to the league. if fined they have the money to pay. ask a fan what if cost them to get a ticket. the fans deservr better!!!!
I am dressing Wayne Simmonds for game 3 just to send and hopefully deliver a message to Bennet, Goudas and Tachuck, who cares if we go down 3-0, I want to see those boys 'Spitting Chicklets'.
That would be great
Won’t happen.
Another losing strategy from a Toronto tears fan. Sunday should be a more tame game; too much at sake for both teams…..
Just like having Ryan Reaves on your team. Good for the regular season , but you can’t have him playing 12 minutes a night in the playoffs.
@@waynethera2712 Nah we have him play for 3 minutes
Thought the code was to mostly leave rookies alone. Hit yeah, but not dirty. Hope someone lays out Bennett
I didn't see them clamoring for Bunting to get fined when he concussed Cernak.
You're not a rookie if you're in the playoffs. Those unspoken rules are for the regular season only.
No such rule.
@@encycl07pedia- Bunting got a 3 game suspension let me guess you just wanted to post ur 2 cents and did not care if what u said was stupid or not right ?
@@encycl07pedia- Bunting was suspended for 3 games for it plus had a major called. Much worse than a fine.
It's the playoffs, drop the ball and you will get punished for it, doesn't matter who the team is. Leafs need to stop celebrating their round 1 win and start getting serious. If they do not win one game in Florida, they are done like dinner.
This series is over. The Leafs NEVER had the heart to win since 1993. 53 year old Leaf fan since i was a kid and im done with them for good. Tired of decades of disappointment.
Know what leafs do? Fold. Nothing makes a Floridian happier than sending Canadians home. If Toronto wasn't so soft they would have fought Bennett right after he did that stuff.
Can’t be cute with the puck in playoffs.. have to get it deep, go low to high with shots and confusion around net it’s simple the players just have to execute as pros getting paid millions 🤷🏽♂️
Sam Bennett is the Claude Lemieux type player that the Panthers were lacking for years. They have skill, speed, discipline, conditioning and and hockey smarts. Now they are tougher than previously. I don't know how far it will take them but if they do make it to the finals, like 1997, this time they will be coming with scorers.
If this was back in the day, even 10-15 years ago this would have been more legit because the leafs would have had an enforcer to come and sort it out after the hit.
The reason i bring this up is because in a league that has essentially faded out the role of the enforcer, tougher teams are willing to take more serious liberties with players, especially if they are green like Knies. There just isn’t the same amount of order now and the game suffers. If this was 2002, Tucker or Domi or Corson would have been all over the Panthers.
Is Simmons out ? Or is he not on the leafs anymore ?
I've been watching playoff hockey since at least 1970. I was 8 when I walked into my dad's bedroom to see what all the cheering was about in 1967 and saw the Leafs hoisting the cup. The one thing I've learned is that playoff hockey is what it is. One player's hit is another player's penalty. The same take down behind the net can win the puck or it can injure a player. I still don't understand why the referee was punished for calling a penalty on the Golden Knights player for body slamming the Sharks player on the ice which also resulted in a concussion and missed games. How is the Knives take down different from the Leafs take down of the Panther player a few minutes earlier in the game when everyone cheered? I watcher the Flyers manhandle every team in the mid-1970s. It was the most brutal hockey you'll ever see and they have 2 cups to show for it. I'm not saying all is fair in love and hockey. Freak accidents happen. All you can do is hope the scales balance. Sometimes they do. Sometimes they don't. In hockey the bad guys often win. They're not the 'dirty' players. They're just the ones who don't wear your home jersey.
They have no hope or will. I’m a Senators Fan
I remember in the early 2000s it was tradition to knock out the senators every year haha every effin year
It seems pretty straightforward. If a penalty results in an injury that causes a player to miss games, the penalty includes suspension until the injured player returns. I've been touting that solution since Dale Hunter knocked Pierre Turgeon out of the playoffs in '93.
Hockey is war. No bitches allowed
NHL DoPS has been a joke for awhile now, which unfortunately makes the NHL come off as bush league
i think the fine is good enough. watching the reply it doesnt compare to matthew suspension. in Matthew's cross check he targets the player and attacks the head with intention. if you watch bennett, hes not even looking where hes hitting and delivers with alot less intensity. as for the behind the net play, sure that couldve been a penalty but its not a suspension, hes just roughing him up. normal play in the playoffs. kings did this a couple times to mcdavid last series. just unfortunate knies is injured
So you missed the cross check to the back , I see
@kenneth g reid didn't miss it but didn't think that was more than a 2 min, he got away with it.
The Panthers are playing the odds against a more skilled team again. Take the penalties and fight them off no matter how many. Injure and intimidate the best players on the opposite side. Their strategy is basically the movie 'Slapshot'. Goon hockey lives...
Get outta the kitchen if ya can't stand the heat!
Idk if it’s a more skilled team, just skilled players. Sometimes the stars align and they work as a cohesive team lol
@@sommebuddy I agree for the most part, I would say samsanov is alright, maybe not round two playoffs, but he’s good, I mean even top end goalies have some bad games. Panthers goal tending has been bad in the series as well. Coaching is passionate but perhaps a bit soft, and yeah the top players are a little soft, or just bad defense to protect the talent, they don’t play as a cohesive team, because there is talent on this team, but only really as individuals and less so as a team. Kadri left the leafs and instantly won a cup, so I’m not going to blame players in this one.
Why are people SO shocked by what Florida is doing? Vezina goalie. Great team support. Relentless forecheck. VERY opportunistic. Were one of the hottest teams February on. LAST years presidents trophy winners and they are arguably better this year on paper. I don't understand how people are so shocked
@@iamcowhearmemoo2553 yeah but Boston should have had it, embarrassing choke from them. Florida vs leafs is a fair match up, leafs just can’t beat the goalie, or maybe trying to hard to that they forget about defence, Florida is a much better team overall, leafs have some more individual talent but means nothing in a team sport.
as a panther fan what Bennett did was not cool at all. but all the leafs fans wanting all the panthers players to get injured is wild.
The knies one is at least a game suspension. That’s a dirty play that resulted in an injured player. Not a hockey play. Suspension
Stone got crosschecked multiple times the other night. No calls. Bennett doing what he was doing. No calls. There Is a reason the NHL views are down so much. The penalties don't get called properly lol.
yep, life long hockey fans are turning their TV sets off and watching darts instead or maybe even professional rock climbing tournaments because the refs wont make calls. Time to burn your jerseys and throw away all of your memorabilia. Hockey is over.
Did anyone else notice how far down Benett's hand is from the top of the stick when he hits Bunting? In my mind that's an intentional attempt to injury Bunting and to try and get him to retaliate. Immediately after the hit Benett's hand moves to the top of the stick handle and he only got a $5,000 fine. This guy knew exactly what he was doing to Bunting and to Knie. The refs need to crack down on this type of behavior!!
As a lightning fan, I rather enjoyed the cross-checks. Couldn’t happened to a more deserving guy
if it was a leaf that made that hit the leaf fans would say it was the best hit ever in the history of hockey
Yep.
Maple Laffs are getting stomped on. So far. If the Panthers get any scoring from the bottom 6 forwards. The Laffs are in BIG trouble !!
Funny how the 8th seed is now playing the villan role.
They will make you pay for your mistakes Toronto take it from a bruins fan.
@@GospelTestimony just like boston did
My thoughts exactly from a fellow Bruins fan. Their forecheck is too much it seems for the Leafs. Didn't think the cats could make a breakout look worse than bostons in the first round and here i am wrong lol
Just need to pick a fight with the goalie...throw him off his game and the series is over.
As a B's fan, I know I will cop all kinds of flack and be told to cope (that's fine, I'm already on to next year. Panthers did play well), but I have to say Bennet, Gudas and to an extent Tkachuk got away with a lot in the first round. Gudas had about 4 blatant missed interference calls in game 1 alone. I know no one cares because he mainly targeted Marchand, but there were several instances where he crosschecked players in the back to the ground and then sat on them when the puck was on the other side of the ice and nothing was called. Bennet had some dirty hits too.
I get it with playoff hockey and blah blah blah, but the frustration at the time only comes from the CONSISTENCY of the league.
Other calls in the series like the 'hand pass' goal, yet the Kings had a clear high stick play turn goal only the night before where both were reviewed yet the Kings goal stood etc.
I know officials can't get it right every time but this year in it's entirety has been so inconsistent with cross checking, charging, kicking motions, goalie interference etc I feel like the league just needs to pick what they actually want and stick with it.
NHL Playoffs officiating is an embarrassment. It shouldn't be any different versus the Regular Season. That's the problem with the NHL and why most of the world thinks it's a joke of a league.
Does the NHL stack up to Leagues like the MLB? NFL? FIFA? NBA? Absolutely Not, because a Penalty is a Penalty, regardless of Playoffs or Regular Season.
Why does the NHL allow Bullies to deliberately harm NHL players? Especially the key difference makers? Exactly why the NHL is a Joke.
@@nickt6595 agreed there
As a bruins fan you have no room to complain about cheap and/or dirty play in the playoffs. That has been Boston’s m.o. for most of their existence 😂
@@mattsavoy5940 not for the last decade really. Boston these days is very soft compared to their golden years.
Panthers in 4 , they have an extra day off good luck beating them on home ice
Panthers have done most of their damage on the road this playoffs
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Are they as pissed as lightning fans were to lose Czernak for the entire series?
I got the feeling they were targeting Knies: Tkachuk hit him with an elbow to the head, Bennett ran his head into the ice, (if you watch carefully). Time for Luke Schenn to have the kids back. Best revenge is get pissed off and win the series.
Activate the Wayne Simmons!!!
Leafs don't have a reply for the tuff play. Their too soft.
Best revenge is to punch out or injure those bastards. Only 15% of teams down 2-0 make it to the next round, and the Leafs are wimps and will bow out this coming week.
@@melvynobrien6193 ... I think they'll do better on the road. Revenge for Knies. So I guess a $5k fine for Bennet means "nothing happened"... still a cheap shot and a cheap fine. Summon the Simmons !
Bennett - 3 game suspension for combined infractions. He punched Knies, rammed his head into the glass, and propelled him down to the ice. Then, he neck checked Bunting, which drew a minor penalty and a $5 fine, which amounts to about 3 shifts of playing time for him financially. Matthew’s got 2 games for the same neck check.
Eve told hating on Bennett but bunting did something 10x worse
How can an elbow to the head be 10X worse than a crosscheck to the head? Please explain.
The Panters are making the Leafs look like the Bruins.
Someone gonna clobber Bennett or you gonna just cry about it leafs. Their too soft those leafs.
Matthews got suspended for that. How is this player on the ice for game 3 after those two head shots??
I'm an American and i can't believe how many Canadian residents (Other than people from Ontario) that cheer against The Leafs. A lot of Canadians would rather have an American Team win the Stanley Cup other than Toronto.
Both of these were disgusting plays. The bias in this league is unacceptably putrid, and no team is safe from this BS. I don't care which team you support, we should all be railing for this corruption to be exorcised from the NHL forever. Also, I think the Knies hit should result in a 4 game suspension for Bennett.
Tell your boy bunting to quit diving and you'll have nothing to worry about
As much as your right on most of your points, there IS bias, and it's running rampant league-wide; moreover, it's in incompetent referees who cannot tell right from wrong, and clearly want to influence the games. It's obvious, FFS.🙄
Panthers coach advocates border line plays and gets away with it. NHL referring is the worst.
Powerplays are 8 to 2 in favor of Leafs and you still complain about refs. No, they aren't getting away with it. No-calls happen for both teams.
Bennett was never called to answer for mugging Knies. Leafs are soft.
Management from a majority of NHL teams need to band together and demand reforms to the performance of refs in the league., and refuse to put teams on the ice unless things get cleaned up by the refs. This means the firing of many many officials. That ref hot moment I heard last night (sorry don't recall where I viewed it), speaks volumes. We are talking about the welfare of players out there. Kick all the JUNK refs to the curb. They know who they are.
Have a great night Snowflake ❄️❄️
At least in minor hockey you can get 5, a game and suspended for "intent to injure".
What Bennett did to Knies was clearly done with the intent to injure him and now the Leafs are without a top 6 forward for at least 2 games while all Bennett gets is a $5,000 fine for a completely different cheap shot... Yeah I think the Leafs have every right to be pissed off.
Those two cross checks are completely different bruh lmfao
It's the playoffs and Leaf fans are pissed, what a surprise.
Simply put, leafs have to play the whole game like they played the last 15 minutes of game 2
I like how no one's talking about the trip at 2:17. Goal should of never happened
Blatant trip. No call. I guess it's just the playoffs where the refs become stupid idiots.
yes ! that's what I've been saying
Leafs finally make it to round two to get swept lmfao