Which Car Brands Make the BEST and WORST Vehicles in 2022?
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Today, Ray and Zach discuss whether car dealerships will continue with the bait and switch approach to selling cars, or begin providing realistic prices online. Will they finally change, or will car dealerships inevitably run themselves in to the ground? 
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I agree with you on the Subaru with a proviso that probably extends to other brands as well. I have a 2021 Subaru Outback. The control system is very heavily invested in the touch panel. That requires far too much attention to deal with things as mundane as turning up the AC / heater blower because you MUST take your eyes off of the road to deal with the screen. The eyesight thing is ok but the beeps it makes are very annoying and you cannot turn them off. The lane departure control fortunately can be disabled as it WILL fight you about lane positioning.
Surprised BMW was so high up there.
Having owned three newer BMW and a few older GMs, BMW is far superior to GM when it comes to reliability. Actually maintenance on BMW is not significantly more expensive than service at any car dealer. If you service the vehicle at a dealership.
@@specialk9999 That's when I decided this survey was BS. BMWs are turds and have been for the last 20 years. Find any youtube channel of a real mechanic and see what they say about BMWs. Even the ones who actually like BMWs don't say they are reliable.
@@David-li4uw yup.pure trash. how the hell they ranked mini / bmw and infinity above toyota is beyonddddd me. smh
Bmw and Audi ahead of Toyota? This list has lost credibility
I totally agree
There is a methodology behind it so the ranking was not made out of thin air. Either the methodology is flawed or… Toyota quality went down which is not impossible
True but even if Toyota quality went down it would not have gotten behind bmw or Audi. Those things are three year lease special ticking time bombs.
From what I understand, they take in all consumer complaints, thus a faulty windshield wiper is weighted the same as an engine failure. Let's see the list in 10 to 15 years, or over 150k miles but include all vehicles including those that have been junked.
The list is fine. You on the other hand need to realize we are in 2022, not 1980.
Oh man. Some people gonna be hurting after this. Including me. Most reliable vehicles in the world are Toyota and Lexus. But Mazda beat them for 2021 in initial quality. But for long term Toyota and Lexus.
Initial quality is irrelevant. Who cares what someone thinks about a car immediately after they bought it? I would not buy anything but a Yota.
@@billp4 amen!
@@billp4 Yeah..but Toyota's are boring as fuck to drive. I know I can do better....like Mazda.
@@kray97 aww Mazdas are boring as fuck to drive
You do know that Toyota and Lexus are the same thing, right?
Most Mazdas are still made in Japan, you can’t beat the quality and excellence of the products they produce.
Not for much longer, they got that Michigan plant they just opened with Toyota.
Lots of Mazda's are build in Mexico. They have a plant there since 2014
Kitchen appliances I wouldn’t care about but cars assembled in Mexico I will worry about the quality control. Therefore I will not buy any Japanese brand built in Mexico, that’s just my opinion
@@Someoneonthisplanet1979 it's all in the VIN#, Jxxxxxx for Japan, 3xxxxxx for Mexico. Certain models were never made in Mexico (Any Miata, 2019 up MZ3, for ex.), certain models were exclusively made there, others mixed bag. Know your VIN's
@@royariza9834 you can always find out through the VIN
Had a 98 jeep brand new, broke in the weirdest ways for an "offroad" vehicle that never went offroad. Now my 2008 FJ Cruiser, never had any issues, other than not being able to take the top or doors off:)
4runner gang, but Toyota should be top 5 at least
Fj cruiser is such a beautiful car
Maybe you should've took it off road, some Jeeps take that personally...
Mazda's ranking as #1 or this year's #2 is much deserved. They've had arguably the best overall reliability for a while. Recently, the Mazda CX-5 was the *only* SUV in its class to get a 'Good' rating on the new IIHS side collision test. Given Mazda is among the smallest major automakers in the world (afaik not even top 15 by volume last I checked), that's an incredibly impressive feat. European cars which cost way more to develop and buy didn't score 'Good' on the side collision test. Pretty much all Mazda's have excellent safety ratings. And if you ask people who own Mazdas what they think about the driving experience, you'll probably hear very good things.
Not me. Mine was a piece of crap from the day that I bought it new.
I definitely agree, they deserve that spot. Artisan built vehicles, outstanding portfolio, heritage, and engineering, and from my experience, great dealership service. However, buyers should be aware of the costs of owning one. They think just because it’s Japanese it should be a simple ownership- and while that may be true for the first owner, those engines are incredibly expensive to own and service after a certain number of years. A lot of technology is shoved underneath those hoods. If you look at the engine bay and you’re experienced with cars, you would know what I’m talking about.
My favorite saying with Land Rover is "If you want to go anywhere in the world, take a Land Rover. If you want to come back home, take a Toyota."
😅😅😅😅😅
Don't forget, If your Land Rover is not leaking its probably empty!
Land Rover: the car to buy when you want to get to know your car's maintenance staff really well.
I have another one. When someone breaks down on the side of the road in a Land Rover who does he call first? A Toyota dealer. I saw a Discovery on the side of the road today and the owner was outside the vehicle talking on the phone and that reminded me of this. LOL.
Yeah, there was a Saudi family that probably heard that also. They all perished in the desert when their Toyota broke down. True story.
I'm shocked that Subaru has 13 cars per dealership. I thought the number was much lower. Last time I visited the dealership near me, there were two cars on the lot. Nobody has handled the pandemic chip shortage worse than Subaru.
You want to know the best way to see the reliability of a car or brand? Go on the forums for that car or brand. Some forums are more organized than others but there is always either a section or search function to see the common problems for every brand or specific model & generation. You will always see the one off or infrequent problems so focus on the large threads about single problems & also the number of problems found.
Some examples I can bring up (because I own these cars) are the transmission noise issues on V6 Toyota Rav4's, Infiniti G37 transmission shift issues (7AT), crack dashboard defect in Acura TL's (3rd Gen), etc. Consumer reports won't report these issues / complaints but forums do.
Earlier this year I got a Mazda CX-30 carbon edition and I love that car. The interior looks luxurious too.
Is servicing still outrageously high?
I haven’t looked at the list but it would be interesting to see if they have a running cost average based over a 10 or even 15 year period. That’s where a lot of value would come from in my opinion. That would provide for how much it would cost to keep the car in running shape over the long term.
At least on a historical basis.
After reading your other story the best thing you can do in your life is to come to Long Island New York and by my 1991 Toyota Corolla it's $2,600 it will last you 10 years as long as you don't Smack It Up that's right I paid $500 for the car 2 years ago it runs like brand new it looks like 80% brand new so that Toyota Camry today crossed about $50,000 and the dealership would charge you $500 to take your Dodge Ram truck they would lie to you and they would laugh at you as you're leaving they don't take anything from you they give you your deposit back they just want you in a in that hole I was talking about they want you to keep burying yourself in that hole it doesn't make sense show it to somebody that really knows the deal
Not Mazda is no good after a hundred thousand miles the engine starts making bearing noise engine slap falls apart well known fact you want to get a good car make sure it's maintained get a 98 99 or 2000 Honda Civic make sure you get it all original from the original owner and make sure it was maintained by oil changes less than like 4,000 miles and make sure it's at 100,000 or even less then you got a car that would last you for 20 years a lot of those things if they automatic and stick as long as nobody modified it'll beat it up it's a great running car the Toyota Corolla is not going to be as fast as that not going to have the options not going to hold the road like that the Acura and the Honda Accord is just going to burn lots of oil or be more expensive too you can find one they're not a lot of money in some states a lot of people got them and destroyed them I bought one year today for $420 with $150,000 Mi the thing runs like brand new somebody hit a deer somebody stole the trunk lid broke the ignition and stole the wires off it but that car starts and drives down the road has a lot of pickup and pretty much will probably last another couple of hundred thousand miles I had to I mean no one's going to get it for $420 but that guy got it because it was sitting in his tow yard and somebody owed him like $700 in feet I just happened to be there with cash in my hand I took a chance I figured I can junk it if it really got a lot of problems but it really don't it's got average props needs a trunk a headlight I mean the hood smashed you could change it the car's not rotted car is not dented I think the alternator is no good but the guy probably never even know that I know it's no good but anyway that's it
I am a fleet manager for a large pharmaceutical company.
At any given time we have approximately 1,200 vehicles in our fleet.
We have everything from top of the line Mercedes and BMWs down to Chevy Sparks and Nissan Versas.
Toyota and Honda used to be the most reliable and durable in our fleet but over the past 10 years both have shown significant declines, especially Honda, and now some of the domestic and European brands are comparable if not superior.
All our vehicles are purchased new and kept for 5 years or 150,000 miles whichever comes first.
They are maintained per manufacturer's recommendations at their respective dealerships.
Asian brands are not as bulletproof as urban legend suggests and European and American brands are not as bad as people think they are.
Spot on!
I tend to agree. I am so done with Toyota. My next vehicle purchase would be Ford
Could you share stats? Which unexpected brands/models did you find reliable?
Nicer vehicles all around and just a better experience for the years you’ll be driving. Did you get one? Is it expensive af to maintain? Has it stranded you?
I take any list from CR with a grain of salt, when it comes to vehicles I always cross check with other lists out there, with car mechanics that have been in the business for over 20-40 years I know personally. The long term reliability lists CR uses are from feedback their subscribers give and not all their subscribers are what you would refer to as "car people", in other words, a minor problem might be seen as a major defect to those who don't know the difference between the two.
No single mechanic, especially over time, can work on enough models of a particular brand to draw a conclusion about that brand that is statistically valid.
@@bill7481 A good mechanic can look at model of car and tell you it's weak points or if it has an engine/transmission that is prone to issues. Toyota, Honda, and Mazda are all very reliable, the rest tend to be spotty, having some models with very significant issues. For example CR readers overlap with Subaru fans this US why they are rated well but a mechanic would tell you these cars are a liability go get a toyota. Contrast that to land rover who's buyers simply don't cars, I doubt many land rover people rear CR and those that do are not their die hard fans.
That may be true. But it also may be true that people who dont know cars will think that a poor quality brand/car is "normal", because theyve never had a better car or better service or better cost of ownership etc.
Stay gold.
@@dnlmachine4287 you're right, I know some folks like that
Surveys are of limited usefulness. However to counter, like they said in the video Jeep has a cult following and yet rate poorly.
For anecdotal evidence, I've heard plenty of people online bitch about subarus However I was in an owners club that eventually developed Into car enthusiasts of any brand and problems were much more prevalent with Mitsubishi, fiat, Ford than the 10 times as many owned subarus.
No they were not all new.
did i miss Kia and Hyundai?? Passed down 2008 Elantra to son who passed the car off to his sister. 200+K and the car still looks and runs great.
KIA Sorrento has 190000 miles on it, runs like new. Put some new black wheels on it, along with tinted windows, changed oil, runs perfect.
I'm surprised Kia wasn't on the list. Owned mine for 8+ years, and most reliable car I've ever owned.
The top 5 and 10 must not be long term reviews. If one thinks about it people are almost always very happy with their new vehicles for the first year.
I’ve owned two Jeep Wranglers, and two Grand Cherokees, never had any reliability problems. The current Grand Cherokee summit has every gadget possible, and five years in, zero issues. I do follow all service recommendations, and have it serviced at the dealer. I don’t understand the low ranking at all.
Facts man!!! I went from the Dodge Dart when it came out and then got a 2016 Wrangler.. got into an accident and then got myself a 2018 JGC Overland.. loved the car but sold it last year at ATH.. I'm looking at the JGCL.. jeep fam for life.. can't understand the low rating at all.
I was surprised
Jeep has the same stigma Land Rover has had for years.. both are the American and English premium off-roaders respectively but are looked at by Toyota owners as the American and English money pits. I stepped into a new G Cherokee the other day and it was an excellent experience. The engine looked and felt just fine also. Expensive af but it was still a great car
We’re on our second Subaru here in Vermont. Can’t imagine driving anything else in the snow and ice and mountains. With snow tires, I’ve never felt safer in a vehicle.
I live in Colorado and folks love their Subarus here too. But as a master mechanic of 20 years, I see too many problems on them. Also, I have a Toyota Sequoia and it’s spectacular in the snow. And it’s got 330k miles on it and I don’t have the problems Subaru has. Just a bit of sage advice. Cheers.
Subaru is famous for AWD, I hear.
Wow I’m really happy I’ve found this channel, there’s so much info!
If a brand didn’t even make this list, does that mean they’re doing truly abysmally? Like Chevy, Ford, Kia/Hyundai, Nissan, Dodge, Volvo etc?
This site may be a keeper - rock on guys
Happy to see Subaru up there since I just purchased a new outback.
Hey ray, you’re rockin the beard. Love the channel!
The issue I've always had with CR is they don't treat trucks for what they are. They're consistently rated low for sub standard handling and comfort. The only truck they seem to really like is the Ridgeline which has poor sales among truck buyers despite being critically acclaimed. Mostly because, typically, a truck owner's criteria isn't focused on comfort and on road performance. This is what tanks Jeep's ratings, drops one of, if not the best, reselling brand Toyota down the list since you have to include their trucks, and why the top eight on the list also happen to be manufacturers that don't make trucks aside from the previously mentioned Ridgeline.
Thanks for the post! I hadn't seen this channel before but I was entertained and will be checking out some other videos.
I LOVE the Subaru, on my second one a 2008 outback with over 300K miles and purring like a kitten. Still a pleasure to drive.
no problems with CVT?
@@RAYTHYuen this was back when Subarus were a bit better. No cvt’s on a 2008 model. I’m a master mechanic and Subarus are garbage. But in 2008 they were slightly better. Still tons of other problems though. After 100k miles Subarus are money pits.
My buddy is still driving his 2002 Subaru Legacy. He bought it when it was only 3 years old and he just hasn't bothered to buy a replacement car.
Subaru’s listing surprised me. Having owned a couple, love at first, but tend to fall apart at 100K and triple the cost of any other to repair. Compared to my Honda’s and Toyota’s, not even close to best cost of ownership and overall dependability. However I have to say with Subaru, the first 100k you think you may have the best car in the world.
surprised me a well as they are pretty much junk
Yeah, I spent a lot of money keeping an Outback on the road. Gave up and went Lexus.
I have 2 subarus, they could be better at reliability but honestly i have only had to spend 1k in repairs over 10 years. Not including maintenance.
Maybe they used to build the older Subarus better. I know lots of owners in the 300k+ club
Another great place with bang on reviews is - The Edmonson Lemon Aid Guide in book form only which can be bought online or found at any Library
And I just ordered a 2023 Subaru Crosstrek Sport. I knew that I was doing the right thing… love my current Crosstrek.
Just got a 2023 Limited. Awesome cars!
My 19 Alfa Romeo Giulia Ti Sport hasn’t been anything other than pure joy to drive and have had no problems.
Back about 1976 or so, my Uncle lived in Montana and we lived in Central PA, not far from Philly where my Mom's family was from. Every three or four months, he'd drive to Rutger's University for a checkup from his cardiologist. One time he shows up in a Subaru Brat and my mom sort of laughed at it and asked, "Why? Why...that?" My uncle replied, "How many times have you seen a Subaru broken down along the side of the road?" We hadn't. Back then, I remember that you couldn't go more than ten miles or so on Rt. 30 or any other limited access highway without seeing one of Detroit's finest broken down on the side of the road.
We bought our first in 1985 and since then have had a total of 5.
Although this was about brands, it is interesting to note that the best vehicle sold in USA (according to your source, Consumer Reports) for reliability is the Toyota 4 Runner. The best car sold in USA for reliability is the Toyota Prius.
Isnt the toyota yaris like number 2 for reliability as well
Toyotas and Hondas are usually the best... especially Toyota.
Yeah but who wants to drive a Toyota? I prefer taking the risk and driving my Alfa Romeo and abarth.
My wife had a PT cruiser and loved it, drove really nice, could sit on the speed limit all day but you had to get it into the 4000RPM range to get it to perform, was great until the warranty ran out and then everything cost $1000 to fix. Have had Hyundai since 2000. I have owned 3 and my wife has had 1. I get rid of mine at the 10 year/300,000 km mark and have only had to replace brake pads and tyres. Had a Mazda and 1 was enough as it was my wifes car, sold it after 10 years with 70,000km on the clock. Had to replace both front CV joints at 3,000 and it broke a tooth off in the diff at around the 30,000Km mark and that was enough, have had 1 wont buy again. There is no way my wife was the problem as she drives very conservatively, some say like an old lady.
It's a shit car dude
Yea them Mazdas are nice but get expensive af after a while
My last 3 cars were bmw's and none of them ever went into the dealer for a single thing other than scheduled maintenance, if you drive responsible and take care of the vehicle, it will last a long time
You're responsible the BMW is a garbage just like Audi and Mercedes if you drive in a puddle of water it'll suck the water in and blow the motor they have major engine problems I know somebody that bought a rear wheel drive 2018 okay be smart Okay paid $50,000 for it the motor they replace three times and it still makes noise so what's so great about BMW the status symbol there's a certain kind of person that likes BMW and it's usually the low life people they use it as a status symbol when they go dealing drugs think for a minute they they seem to like them the most when they depreciate it
True, but not everyone is as lucky as you are if that is true. Once the warranty is up, there goes your money fixing it...
Loving dad’s perspective.🥰🥰
You guys should do you personal top 5 and worst 5 car brands !
As for all these Foreign vehicles 1 thing of note is the price and availability of parts and repair. Many find out that if you have anything happen like a accident or someone stole something off your vehicle. The costs of repairs and maintaining is higher. As well as ability to get parts.
This video makes me happy with my Mazda CX-9 purchase (although I already knew prior they were very reliable vehicles) I know I may be in the minority but I like their tried and true 6 spd auto. and the interior is pure class
@conartist j I haven’t noticed that yet but I don’t drive the car my wife does. I’ll have to ask her if she has experienced this. She says she absolutely loves the car. I don’t like the looks of the CX5 all that much but I am definitely considering a cx30 or cx50 for myself eventually. Hope you have a great day
Is your Mazda rear suspension an Torsion beam or Multi link?
That 6spd is still around because Mazda engineers it to perform like a 9 speed
2010, 2017 and 2019 Mazda 3’s in the family and wow, they are amazing cars, very reliable and fun to drive. The newer ones have great features and are so good looking. The 2010 has 320,000 Km on it and it’s still running great.
2019 here and my god Lease ends in January and it’s gonna be a heartbreak but I gotta take advantage of the positive equity on it.
How about the body? Some years back I had a Mazda three and it ran great but it rusted like crazy it was really sad
@@katsm-wo9704 perfect body. A scratch in both bumpers done I guess at any parking lots in the time that I have it. But other than that nothing else.
@@joegonz1983 I have noticed them on the road recently and haven’t seen them rested so I think this was a problem a while ago as many were rusty my car was a 2006
Automatic or manual transmissions?
That's a strange list. But I just took delivery of a 2022 Honda Civic. Beautiful car. Drove it off the lot and brake pedal problems driving home from the dealer. Broken brake booster. It's sitting in the shop. $30k. 13 miles odometer. The dealer's comment to me: "But you test drove it didn't you?" WOW! I think I see Toyota in my future.
You will never regret buying a Toyota. I love Toyota Camry.
@@tyy5557 I rented a 2019 Camry while my 2016 Accord was in the shop after a minor collision. I regretted that car the whole time I was driving it. It was unergonomic, drab, and full of annoying little habits. Toyotas are incredibly reliable, but boy was it a horrible car to drive.
Get a Mazda 3 instead
@@tyy5557 I'll look into it. I've owned 6 new Hondas over 7 years, many with problems. I may look at Toyotas and Mazda now
There's something to be said for a first year model of a redesign. We got a 2003 Accord V6 that is considered one of Honda's worst. Sold it to a friend with 300,000 miles. We also got the same car, but the 2006 model (220K) and all the kinks were worked out and it's never needed anything non maintenance.
If you have not seen what the Mazda 6 Signature has to offer and the reliability of their Mazda 3's & Mazda 6's has been since 2018, its impressive. There is a reason why I am strongly considering a used Mazda 6 Signature.
I'm not surprised at all about GMC being ranked so low on the list. I owned a 2017 Yukon Denali. It was a nightmare. First thing to go in my first two weeks of ownership, the shark fin antenna's seal failed and leaked water into the headliner. The next month, I was driving and an interior A pillar molding just fell off and landed on the dash. That needed to be replaced. The door moldings adjacent to the windows started coming off. The clips holding them in place failed. Then after four months, the battery needed to be replaced! This was on a Friday. I told my wife, that night, "If one more thing goes wrong, I'm getting rid of it." The following Monday, I started the truck, and got a "service suspension" message. I took it to the dealer and the magnetic shock needed to be replaced. All this in just under 5 months of ownership.....I traded it in two days later on an F-150 Platinum and haven't looked back.
I have a 2017 Sierra and it leaked the exact same way you described
@@michaeln4018 I was so frustrated, I called GM. They offered nothing. I told that if this is the best of the GMC lineup, then I have no hope for GM.
I love the look of the new Tahoes and Yukons, but I don't think I could ever pull the trigger on one, with my previous experience with the Yukon. On another note, I've had my F-150 for about four and a half years and 78,000 miles. The only issue I've had was the power running board motor on the driver's side needed to be replaced. I also replaced a differential seal at 75,000 miles. It's been a great vehicle. I'm now looking to replace it with a new Raptor, if I can find one at MSRP.
My older brother has had various years of much older Tahoes and suburbans. Damn near constant problems. I thought he was hard on them, it appears that's not the case necessarily.
@@wayward03 I had a 2009 Tahoe that was great...and a 2011 Avalanche that gave me some minor headaches, but nothing close to the Denali. I often joke that it was by far the worst car I've ever owned....and I at one point, owned an Oldsmobile Achieva (to which I've nicknamed "The UnderAchieva") and a Chevy Citation...so that's saying something!
@@Tonyr0206 to be honest the only cars I've had probels with have been VW and Toyota, one VW was old and both Toyotas had a lot of miles.
Everything else has been too new for issues (for most car makes anyway)
For me Toyota would be #1. I owned one for 24 yrs. 2nd on 16 yrs. 3rd going on 6 yrs. Never had any serious problems with any of them!
I have owned 3, and put a combined 554k miles across the 3 with 0 issues. Just had to replace an alternator.
Jeep sounds fairly consistent with real world observations. Though I can't see how GMC and Chevy would be different. I slso know Toyota is not nearly as reliable as it was once upon a time (but it's all relative). Subaru is really reliable, sometimes... but when it goes wrong, it goes very wrong.
BMW Mini are hard to believe.
Subaru is not that they are bad, their vehicles are obsolete, the boxer engine is stone age.
@@lmmaccount1232 Porsche agrees.
Said noone.
It seems like all I see reviewed these days are Hyundai, KIA, and Genesis, and loads of comments about how "they are killing it these days". Interesting how none are in the top 10...
Bcuz they have so many recalls and engine problems
Their designs have really improved. Their tech is spot on. BUT, the dealers are AWFUL at service. The horrors stories are true! I've had trouble with four different dealers "forgetting" maintenance items or flat out not performing services they list in the scheduled maintenance. They fight warranty claims tooth & nail.
They also do long term tests fo which I much prefer.
Car Wizard does videos of worst engines and transmissions not to buy after repairing or replacing them for the past 20 years. I trust his opinion more than CR.
I've owned seven BMW. the last one was a 2013 M3 last year for the V-8 . I've always had a rule with these vehicles, dump them before the factory warranty expires. Just sayin.
Own two grand cherokees, one being 2022 L, NEVER in 45 years of driving heard from Consumer Reports, When I used to read the magazine I disagreed with most everything they claimed.
I've heard of the 3.0 inline-6 from BMW is well up there with Toyota for reliability, but the maintenance costs are what hold it back. I'm sure too many "cheap" craigslist or fb marketplace BMW's that were poorly maintained have given them a bad reputation. I've seen some with well over 200k miles.
Yes why do you think Toyota used the
BMW B58 I their Supra. The Supra minus the chassis is pretty much a rebadged Bmw.
That track is in my back yard!
I had a bmw 330xi and it fell apart often; it was fun to drive but a massive expense. My toyota matrix is way better and has lived much longer still going strong :)
Matrix gang
Seems a law has been introduced in WV to outlaw over-the-air software updates to vehicles. To get the update you must return to your dealer and you can bet it ain’t a free update. Can you guess who sponsors laws like this and it’s directly aimed at Tesla. Current legacy manufacturers have a hard time with over-the-air updates and hate that Tesla does it all the time and they can’t. Therefore, they support the dealer associations push. They want the customers money and don’t care who it hurts. Just another reason for the public to continue to hate dealers.
Was the a Tucson,AZ background I saw in there
I’ve had four Infinitis spanning about 20 years, no issues with any of them. My G37 is a 2010…nothing but regular maintenance.
As long you don’t have a CVT transmission ? They’ll be less issues.
That may be your experience but overall the reliability is crap .
My experience too! We’ve had Infinitis for years (even CVTs) and they have been nothing but reliable.
On my third Infiniti( 04 G35, 08 G 35, 15 Q70L) no major issue and I like that when I take my Infiniti in for service at the dealership, they treat me like a suit and tie guy. Other than the lack of redesign and updated tech, they're a great car.
I had a '13 Infiniti G37. I liked the driving experience a lot. The transmission felt "slippy" on cold days at first when coming to a stop then hitting the gas. I was worried it was failing so I traded it in. I know those 7 speeds were often complained about but didn't break...just not smooth.
Anyone out there driving something with a JATCO CVT, which includes many Nissans, a few Infiniti's, some Mitsubishi's need to hold their breath
I bought a 2013 Hyundai Elantra new and still drive it. It runs great. I do pay for maintenance though. I don't skip it. It's right there in quality with Toyota, Mazda or Honda. Some people want to disparage Hyundai but they only have problems with certain models and years.
I have mixed opinions about Hyundai but I think they're not bad as long as they last. (From a Honda owner)
Lucky you. My sister-in-laws 2013 Kia Sorento engine locked up for no reason at only 80,000 original miles. Kia and Hyundai use the same engine.
It finally hit me, "Pops" sounds very similar to RIcky Jay of Spanish Prisoner fame.
I'm on my 3rd GMC. My current is a 2012 Terrain. Spent more money on repairs than any other...something major is always screwed up. I will never own another GMC and altho I love the suv, they are dangerous to drive in snow and rain. My favorite car of all time was a 1999 Subaru Outback Wagon. Drove 9 years and not even a lightbulb burned out. Handled great. Am in a quandary about what to get next. Plan on keeping my GMC til the transmission blows then have a large bonfire.
I worked for Subaru and honestly great brand but they are really good at keeping things under wraps in terms of reliability. Great protocols and cult like brand. So no one says much. But there turbos blow up and windshields break easily
Yeah and they burn more oil than gas and the last great Subaru was made in 1982 anything after that is garbage
I have a Jeep Patriot and it's been good to me for the past 7 years
Thank you, gentleman. My Mercedes-Benz was not on the best list. However, mine is from 2014 so it older. ✌️
So, surprised Jeep places where it did. As the owner of a 2012 & 2017 Wranglers. I have had no reliability issues.
Youre a rarity. I know more than one jeep owners who have needed MAJOR repairs at less than 20k miles
Of my last 4 cars, 3 (including my current vehicle) are Subaru's. They are getting more pricey, but I am devoted.
Just commented on that; once you own a Subaru it's hard to go back to a normal car. There are lots of lovely cars out there, but they're just not Subaru.
Owned 2 GM trucks, Pile of Junks, One had a lemon claim, Never Again
GM trucks and SUV's turned to junk starting in 2007 when they went to turning off certain cylinders to save gas. My friends and families also have intermittent starter issues with the brand new ones they bought.
My Acura RSX is just about to reach 250G on the odometer and it still runs like a champ. by the way, Acura is Honda.
I went to Land Rover dealer one day looking at a 65,000 dollar vehicle and the salesman started the vehicle and it had rough idle.
I'll never be in the target market for luxury cars, but I don't understand how a hefty price tag doesn't buy you unmatched reliability. Or is it the same as designer clothing, etc where you're paying for the label, not quality.
Subaru used to have a reputation for bomb-proofness and were at one stage one of the only regular car that routinely had FWD and so beloved of farm vets and upper middle class rural dwellers in the UK. However there are now many more 4x4 cars on the market, and Subarus are not necessarily cheap in UK, and the styling is a bit iffy. Americans are always going on about BMW unreliability, but as most BMWs in the UK are diesel we dont see the issues with the V8 engines etc etc.
There's a reason Americans are "going on" about BMW and their shitty quality. Ask any mechanic about the water pumps, master cylinders, rear seals, AC condenser, backup cameras, brake light switches, electronics, and feel free to get back to me about "going on" about them.
I have had an Alpha Stelvio (leased) for about 2 years. So far the car has been great. No repair issues (except a wiper blade refill) and the cars performance is wonderful. I'm the type that leases a new car ever 3 years and I have owned many Japanese brands, Porsche, BMW, Jaguar, ect. The worst thing about owning an Alpha is that there are so few dealerships around (and I live right in So Cal in the epicenter of car culture) that you have to drive 20 miles just to get an oil change service. With that said I have make a decision in a year about whether I should but the car at the end of the lease. Normally I wouldn't but with car prices where they are the economics say I should. Just not sure yet.
Not to be a dick, but it's Alfa. If you have a Dodge dealer in your area, they can handle the oil change; they should have the necessary oil vac, filters and OEM oil. I'm driving a Giulia. I'm only a year in a half in and it's been an amazing car; incredible handling, great combination of gas mileage/power, classy interior, no issues with reliability and it's a much better looking car than it's German counterparts. My negatives would be that leasing them is hard because the depreciation factor they attach to leases is much higher then their counterparts and the Nav is very slow if you aren't using Android Auto/Apple Auto.
@@vincentbarrett9264 Alpha gives a free oil change at an Alpha dealer the first year for all new car purchases. You must not have taken advantage of that perk. I agree about the poor residual. I bought mine in June 2020 so I negotiated 10k off the sticker to counter to get the car at fair value. The low residual is making my decision on buying it at the end of the lease look pretty attractive. I have another 11 months left on my lease.
Just got at CX-30 Turbo. Love it.
Hope it's not a 2021. Big oil consumption issues. Keep an eye on your oil levels. Not sure of the 2022s yet.
@@AbleMable got 15000 miles on it. No issues yet. Only complaint about the thing is the small gas tank. Holds 11 gal.
I'm glad the stigma of head gasket issues is now a thing of the past. The other issue is that all "modern" engines will start to burn oil as the engine ages; not just Subarus. Reliability wise, my Subarus have been just as reliable as the Hondas and Toyotas I have owned in the past (over 220k miles each)- just have to keep up with the maintenance schedule.
Well considering your Subaru is probably built by Toyota. As for Honda not what they used to be unless it’s a small engine.
Keep telling yourself that, Subaru owners are in denial. They haven't licked the head gasket issue yet and their quality control is almost as bad as land rover. Not all "modern" cars burn oil, who told you that? Cars with turbos are highly likely to burn oil as they age but other than that modern oils and seals are so good oil loss is negligible in cars with 200k miles.
Subaru is trash compared to Toyota or Honda, stop denying reality just because you don’t want to feel like the fool you are for buying a Subaru 😂🤣
@@shaunbava1801 yes they have addressed the head gasket issue. They did so years back by simply utilizing a better head gasket. There will be problems here and there but it is nowhere near what it was years back.
I could get into the specifics but it would be a long drawn out post.
Then many folks would mod the vehicles to produce more power in various ways which exacerbated this issue because many times people who try to get more power from the car don't beef up supporting parts that will be under increased strain from power outputs the stock oem parts were never designed to handle in the 1st place.
Many times I see poor maintenance being the culprit...
But hey, it is never the owner's fault. Always 100% the vehicle.
I have 4 decades + of turning wrenches as my experience.
All companies have problems at 1 point or another.
Toyota had a large frame recall for awhile which is quite dangerous and in some instances the issue was NOT fixable from a cost perspective that made sense.
Honda at one point and time was pumping vehicles to dealerships that had to have the engines torn down immediately because they weren't sure if they put the circlips in that kept the wristpins in place, so on and so forth.
I could go on and on.
All car manufacturers are exposed to problems of varying degrees.
Noone is exempt from it.
I've worked on everything from Porsches to Fords at one point or another including building a complete off road vehicle from the frame up which was an 83 Golden Eagle edition CJ with a 427 in it on Rockwells.
It was trailered to the trails because it was nowhere near road legal and was 100% an offroad only build.
In the end, if you stay on the maintenance, don't add a bunch of stupid performance garbage to the vehicle, and don't drive it like you stole it the majority of today's vehicles will be just fine.
@@rivercitymetaldetecting9854 Better gaskets are one thing, yes it's less frequent than before but you still hear about newer Subarus needing head gaskets at 80k or 100k miles more so than many other vehicles. The redesign was around 2011, so we are really only starting to see 10 year old cars.
FYI they did a heck of a lot more than upgrading the multi layer metal gaskets. Increased sealing surface and changing the coolant jacket configuration were pretty big changes to try to address the issue. I think it's probably a bit early to declare victory as they still seem to fail early more often than other makes. Obviously it is not as bad as it was in the 90's and early 2000's, frankly it's shocking Subaru survived that problem.
Most newer cars you can drive for 8 to 10 years without major incident. People love the utility of a subaru and the value it delivers but we need to face facts if I'm driving a 10 year old car with 150k miles I'd rather be driving a Toyota or Honda.
In where I live Mitsubishi is one of the top 3 car brands. Just unbelivable.
was hunting in the Kalahari Desert of Namibia when the Guides Land rover broke down leaving us stranded and with dwindling water,,,,He blew a fuse when I suggested that he buy a Toyota next time
I’m a Auto Broker and I bought and assess over 7000 cars in last 4yrs .base on experienced and facts for all this cars i bought - a 5 yr old car and older with 60k and more. Toyota Camry , Toyota Prius , Toyota Highlander , Honda Accord , Honda Civic, Lexus Es300-is by far is the most Solid Cars!On European models - Benz E class , BMW 3 series , Audi A4, VW Jetta are taking less issues compare to other European brand and models !
Ranking is based on road-test score, owner satisfaction, reliability, and safety. Reliability is only one factor in this list (there is a second list on the consumer reports site for most reliable vehicles). Consequently,
when you actually look at these rankings on consumer reports, BMW scores high due to owner satisfaction, road test, and safety (with reliability being only average). But a fair assessment as reliability is not the only factor in measuring the best brand.
FYI, BMW is number 17 on the consumer reports most reliable list and Lexus is #1.
Jeep is so tough cause I had a renegade and it was straight up dangerous. The engine design was awful. It done got smushed by a truck and they had inventory and honored under invoice deals. Got a gladiator and absolutly love it (would have gotten other options) but what a night and day in product.
my 2016 mazda 3 has been the most reliable vehicle ive ever owned. 6 years later all ive paid for is oil changes lol
Honda best small engine producer. Love my crv.
Yep. My 2008 Honda Fit automatic has tons of power and still gets 36 mpg!
I have a Fiat Abarth. Surprisingly reliable and awesome car
can we take advantage of the subaru in negotiating?
I ordered a brand new CJ 7 Jeep in 1985. It came with multiple issues and problems right from the factory. As it aged some of the same problems came back again to haunt me that had been previously fixed by the dealer plus newer problems. I see quality contol is still non existent. I will never by another Chryster product again.
I like to go into local mechanics shops in my area and see which brands are in for repairs. You hardly ever see a Toyota. When you do there usually there for routine maintenance. I have one hundred six thousand hard miles on a tundra. Not a single issue just routine maintenance.
Excellent
This is the overall score list. BMW has very high road test scores and owner satisfaction despite not having the best reliability. Toyota has very good reliability and good satisfaction, but they aren’t the best cars to drive as reflected in their road test scores.
In their Talking Cars podcast, they stated that smaller manufacturers can be helped or hurt by the fact that they have a small number of models. Toyota having one bad car model wont hurt them too much, but one bad model from Mini or Chrysler could significantly tank their ranking and vice versa with one really good model.
Good point.
BMW owners enjoy their backroad trips to the service center! Lol 🤷
I totally agree. When it comes to pure reliability, Toyota, and Lexus is in a different level, but they tend to be the most boring to drive. BMW as stated by YAA, as long as its in warranty is fine, but among the top 10 it is the most fun to drive and has the most advanced features thus owner satisfaction is high.
love my 2013 outback
Haha, Subaru!? Have a 2017 forester, bought new, driven by my wife, so, not driven hard. Here's the list of problems: both rear wheel bearings failed at 50,000. Cracked catalytic converter. Air cond. condenser failed. Recall for passenger side airbag wiring. Original battery lasted 1 year. Rear differential seal leak......first and last Subaru for me! I fell for the top notch ratings for this brand and went against my instincts to buy another Toyota. Lesson learned!
Thanks
Wow that blows me away. CR used to have a MAJOR priapism for Toyota. They were untouchable
Not hard to imagine at all... Jeep quality / reliability of TODAY isn't as it was in the PAST under different ownership.
Jeeps are junk garbage nothing but money pits.
Wait what? I live in Ct, I didn’t know there was this big test track?! Where is it?
Had to Subarus brand new
2019 STI, not the best car, I had minor issues
2021 Crosstrek sport with minor issues
Problem is, dealer never wanted to fix it. I was told it is normal all the time
Sold both, came back to Toyota, no “minor issues” since
Not that Toyota isn't a reliable brand I think the reason it's lower on the list is because their reputation exceeds their reality. Over the last 15 years Toyota has had a LOT of serious concerns like with their breaks & airbags. If I'm correct I think Consumer Reports does a 3, 5, & 10 year breakdown so even though most of those issues have been cleared up there are still a number of owners who had a Toyota in the 5 to 10 timeframe that had to deal with those issues.
A much more straight forward explanation is that consumer reports is worthless
We can't forget the people who are driving the 20-35 year old Toyotas either.
Many different car brands had trouble with airbags because it was the same airbag supplier. That’s hard to hold the car brand fully accountable for.
@@brownwhale5518 that maybe true but that was right after the issues with their breaks in 2010 where people died. Also, Toyota was at the forefront & having two back to back issues when asked people are going to put that on the automaker.
My 2008 Range rover sport has 135k miles and has had very few issues.
Subaru engines rarely last 100,000 miles. The head gasket leaks almost 100% of the time. Need a major overhaul. And labor on these cars is tricky and very expensive.
Exactly. These stupid lists never account for LONG TERM reliability. Subaru would rank last or next to last every time if this were considered.
Super outdated comment! EJ engines are no longer around. The only Subaru engines that had the HG issue. But really, it was only on EJs with turbos, and usually user error (mods/abuse). Of course, modern their modern engines suffer from carbon build-up if not regularly maintained with good oil, top tier gas and periodic induction cleaning services, but that's common on direct engines from ALL brands.
Every JEEP and Chrysler/Dodge vehicle I’ve ever owned or used for work has been riddled with extensive problems and major recall repairs. Never ever again.
when Fiat started to have a hand in Chrysler/Jeep... that is when they started the downward slope.
My 2021 Kia Forte gives me zero problems. Not a hitch a squeak nothing.
I saw a brand new GMC Suburban on the side of the freeway with hazards on today. I thought it was a Land Rover.
I've been a huge Toyota and Lexus fan for a few decades now. My first car was a 1985 Chevy Nova, and I've had a Geo Prizm, a Lexus ES250, and my current car is a 2012 Prius Plug-In. I'm starting to really want an Outback for a larger driver space, elevated entry/seat height, and quiet interior without needing to buy a giant expensive SUV. Unfortunately, my favorite trusted mechanic only works on Toyota and Lexus vehicles... What to do?
Buy a Rav4 or Lexus NX
Cross or Corolla
Jeep is not the same vehicle it was years ago. I was a mechanic a few years ago and the Renegade is the worst vehicle to work on. Its now European because the lugnuts are now just like the BMW lugnuts. The pinch welds are awful and is covered in plastic parts to get to the oil filter. I would literally take my lunch break if I saw a Renegade come in.
If someone offered to trade me a brand new Renegade for my 22 year old XJ Cherokee I'd take the offer, sell the Renegade, buy another XJ and upgrade the heck out of it. The Compass is another turd with a Jeep emblem on it too.
5:15 surprised about Mazda - a few of my extended family own and swear by Mazda, but they've had transmission problems and the whole nine, for me, it's Honda all the way, and Toyota if you're looking for hybrid.
Not surprised about Infiniti being this high. We own two, and they have been AMAZING. I’m Infiniti for life.
The big killer in car reliability now is the CVT transmission. Honda, Nissan, and Subaru are suffering reputationwise with CVT failures. If I were going to buy those brands I would get a standard transmission only. Toyota seems to be doing okay with their CVT technology. GMC and Chevy trucks are suffering all kinds of problems. Transmissions, front ends etc. My son in law has had 2 heavy duty GM pickups over the last five years and both suffered transmission failures and had a wheel literally fall off the front end on each of them.
My 2008 or 2009 Mini Cooper Clubman was a lemon. It cost me over $14,000 in repairs after my 3 year warranty expired.
Should've got rid of it. Thing is a "Junker" 😂
@@gmanbaz I did. I posted it on Craigslist & was very honest. My ad started off with " This has not been a problem-free car......", & my phone started ringing within 2 minutes. I was shocked, so I started thinking that maybe it was worth more than what I thought it was, so I ended up selling it to Car Max a week or 2 later for $1,000 more than I originally put on Craigslist. I told Car Max all of the cars problems & brought all records & receipts with me.