HOW TO BUY A CAR | DO NOT DO IT Without Knowing These 5 Things

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  • Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
  • Buying a car can be a difficult and arduous process, so you need to know how to buy a car before you begin. Ray insists (listen to Ray!) that you do not buy a car without knowing 5 critical things and in this episode, he'll tell you all about them. You'll learn how to get the best car deal with tips including getting a pre-purchase inspection on a used vehicle and focusing on the out-the-door price. And, they'll share something exciting to be on the lookout for next week!!
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Комментарии • 239

  • @CarEdge
    @CarEdge  Месяц назад +5

    No Dealers. No Hassle. Serious Savings. Let the pros at CarEdge do it for you! ⮕ caredge.com/concierge

    • @timemusicindia
      @timemusicindia Месяц назад

      @caredge - great knowledge sharing. Thanks for helping the community. Based on your video where you recommend taking pre approved loan - In a recent conversation with BMW for a new car, my friend was told that the discount from MSRP (roughly around $5k) can be given,only if he takes the finance from BMW financials, else there are no discounts. How do you tackle that situation? Expert advice pls

    • @CarEdge
      @CarEdge  Месяц назад

      Hi @@timemusicindia, for expert advice on negotiating discounts, visit caredge.com/concierge. We’d be happy to help you!

  • @sarutobi43
    @sarutobi43 Месяц назад +144

    Just left the dealership yesterday. They brought the finance manager and the store manager to speak with me and they both treated me like I was stupid referencing these things on the negotiation. I just ended up leaving I hate the process nowadays.

    • @JC-cu3sr
      @JC-cu3sr Месяц назад +27

      How frustrating! Fortunately, you got red flags early instead of late in the deal and acted on your instincts. If they don't want to deal with an informed customer, then it makes you wonder how much they were trying to take you for? You saved money just by walking out.

    • @sarutobi43
      @sarutobi43 Месяц назад +25

      @JC-cu3sr yeah I didn't even discuss the ridiculousness of the deal. 2019 mitsubishi Outlander 32k miles 16600 (online). Get there, there's 42k miles on it and they were adding a non negotiable 3k warranty because "without the warranty we make nothing on the deal". Bait and switch and lied about the miles.

    • @melvinpretlow7921
      @melvinpretlow7921 Месяц назад +20

      @@sarutobi43would’ve left on the miles alone

    • @sarutobi43
      @sarutobi43 Месяц назад

      @melvinpretlow7921 they tried to get me out the door at 22,6 we discussed all the factors of why I'm not doing that and the manager says we'll meet in the middle at 21,8. I got up and left. 16,6 list price to 22,6 OTD is insane.

    • @diegoharo7943
      @diegoharo7943 Месяц назад +10

      I called a dealership to see what was there best out the door price for a new 2024 Durango, the clown kept trying to get me to come down to the dealership for the best experience I’d ever had 😂
      He kept trying to sell me other used vehicles and older Durango models, he refused to give me a price and kept telling me to come down to the dealership.
      I told him I already knew exactly what I wanted and had test drove different vehicles so I did not need to go to the dealership I just needed an out the door price but he refused to give a price

  • @lisatavare12
    @lisatavare12 21 день назад +11

    Thank you gentlemen for all of the advice. I went to the dealer and told them “I need the Out The Door price” and they were shocked. I stood my ground and went back and forth with them. They said they were losing money on the deal but I showed them the lowest price they had online 2 weeks prior and explained that I would not accept anything above that price. The dealer came back and said ‘my manager said just give it to her’. Thank you so much!!!

  • @Kevin-mk6jo
    @Kevin-mk6jo Месяц назад +69

    Give it to them, Old Man!!!! No filters or censorship!!! We love you, Ray!

  • @JsForLyf23
    @JsForLyf23 Месяц назад +75

    1) OTD
    2) Pre-Approval
    3) Know how long it's been on the lot
    4) Trade-in value
    5a) Incentives. Know them. 5b) Used cars. Pre-purchase inspection

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +9

      a1) Research brand and model extensively (along w/a CarFax if used) to get a very good idea if the brand/model is reliable or to be aware of any "achilles heel" that model/year may have. During the PPI, your mechanic will check those known mechanical issues and either GREEN or RED flag the car. TRUST your mechanic no matter how much you LOVE the vehicle. It's a lot better to "lose" $200 for a PPI than to be stuck for 3+ years w/a car you cannot count on.

    • @CarEdge
      @CarEdge  Месяц назад +4

      Great summary! Thanks!

    • @user-dj4fk8hg2l
      @user-dj4fk8hg2l Месяц назад

      Thank you

    • @WoodmanNH
      @WoodmanNH Месяц назад +1

      My question is about the Pre approval. Say you go to your local Bank or CU. Now you have a hard credit inquiry that lowers you credit score a few points. Now you go to the dealership with less leverage with their financing. No?

    • @lisanicholas2433
      @lisanicholas2433 Месяц назад

      @@WoodmanNHgood question. Can’t wait for the pros to give the answer. I’m in the process now

  • @Curteman20
    @Curteman20 Месяц назад +17

    I just bought a 2025 Honda pilot touring AWD for $51k OTD in CA where the tax state and local was $4,400. A dealership in Huntington was selling the same vehicle but a 2024 for $47.4k. Literally same vehicle, copy and paste. We saved the trip to Huntington by informing Spreen Honda that they could have our business but that they had to match the price. They did. Point is, a quick search of local and somewhat distant vehicles can be ammo to leverage a better deal. Know exactly what the vehicle is worth, how hot they are on the market, and that there will always be another deal so you can walk in confident that you can just walk out when the price isn’t right. You making it clear, by citing local markdowns and that you are willing to give your business to someone else, is how you have negotiating power. NEVER get fixated on one vehicle. KNOW there is always another vehicle out there.

    • @Freerider93
      @Freerider93 Месяц назад +7

      The craziest part is you paid 47k for a Pilot

    • @jp3047
      @jp3047 Месяц назад

      ​@@Freerider93Man $50k is the mean these days

    • @Freerider93
      @Freerider93 Месяц назад +2

      @@jp3047 and who said you need to be on the mean? You can get a 2019 Honda pilot for 16k. Buying a new car for 50k is how you stay broke....yall better wise up!

    • @Curteman20
      @Curteman20 Месяц назад

      You’re assuming that broke the bank. If you can’t afford $50k cash, which is what we did, financed for the dealer’s benefit and our reduced price, guaranteed no early payment fees, and paid it off. Your tip can serve people who need to learn to save money or can’t afford the higher price of new items.

    • @Freerider93
      @Freerider93 Месяц назад +1

      @@Curteman20 Not assuming anything. It's just foolish to pay 50k for a car, even if you can afford it, when it's a depreciating asset that will be worth a little over half that in 4 years. The better play is to buy a used vehicle cash off lease. You can eat up the first 3-4 years of max depreciation and when you're bored I'll be there to pay cash. Thanks!

  • @nancy92792
    @nancy92792 Месяц назад +12

    It's incredibly ironic you showed a Mazda when talking about days on lot because I just tried to buy a 2024 CX-5 that's been on the lot for 197 days and they refused to go under MSRP. I even mentioned the age and they seemed to not mind lol. Best part, this was one of about 15 exact models and they didn't even have it on their physical lot and had it in an "overflow" lot because it was, I quote from the salesman, "taking up space we needed for other cars." AND THEY STILL REFUSED TO NEGOTIATE!! lol

  • @pjm10267
    @pjm10267 Месяц назад +6

    Buying a Lexus at the same NJ dealer you made famous about adding a crazy amount of fees. They added OPTIONAL SALES COMMISSION (NOT REQUIRED BY LAW). How are they getting away asking to tip the salesman. They say it’s a requirement to purchase no way to remove it. How can something that says optional on contract not be removed. Hear this is common at a DARCARS dealership.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +5

      It's not a legal requirement. They're lying/bluffing. I'd suggest shopping w/another dealer.

  • @adyk6604
    @adyk6604 Месяц назад +1

    Love it how you dumb it down, reiterate and elaborate every time. Love u guys bless u. Does car edge work for Canada as well?

  • @Some.Legend
    @Some.Legend Месяц назад +9

    I asked a question on your Ray and Zach channel and Ray answered it perfectly at 0:25. This is the best car channel imo.

    • @arnie1005
      @arnie1005 Месяц назад +1

      They do not answer your question, if you do not pay them! Everybody that ask never get an answer, I’ve asked several time either no answer, because I did not give them money, their answer have not been worth it for me to give yet!

    • @Some.Legend
      @Some.Legend Месяц назад

      @@arnie1005 I didn’t spend a dime. I asked the question in the comments and they respond in the video.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад

      @@arnie1005 I think you are confused about how most businesses work.

    • @arnie1005
      @arnie1005 Месяц назад

      @@NVRAMboi where on RUclips, does it say it a business channel.I have watched RUclips for years, and I have never heard anyone paying to use it? All businesses that I’ve every known about ,pay to advertise !

  • @shadmeyer7791
    @shadmeyer7791 10 часов назад

    I heard from someone financing threw the dealership,then went to bank and got a loan. Paid it off , and used there bank loan

  • @UnionAdvocate
    @UnionAdvocate Месяц назад +17

    I have a 2017 Mazda 3 with only 25k miles. Carvana offering me only $4k less than I paid out the door. Dealership tried to offer me $2,400 less than Carvana. Told dealer “ok let me head down to Carvana and sell, i’ll be back in a week when the check clears”. Suddenly they were interested in entertaining what Carvana was offering me.

  • @germanjimenez5968
    @germanjimenez5968 Месяц назад +9

    Happy birthday, Zach.

  • @markrichards4042
    @markrichards4042 Месяц назад +7

    Went and drove a 2024 AWD Traverse. It is actually a very nice vehicle. I know they are 4bangers but I don't ever tow anything. Didn't talk about a trade in but wanted a OTD breakdown. The saleperson would not give to me. Said I could do that in the F&I office. I said I am not going in there without it. Very nice but still refused. I said I was this close to buying but sorry I will go elsewhere. I guess the idea is get you in there and hard sell you. I am not doing that ever again. Bought a Honda years ago that was part of the Hendrick auto group. Absolute worst experience ever for me. Learned my lesson. I hate them. I guess the ace in the hole for me is is I don't care if I get the vehicle or not. I will find the one I want at the price I want. Don't care when or where.

    • @SingleStacked
      @SingleStacked Месяц назад +2

      I would have asked the salesperson what his role at the dealership is?

  • @jeffreybarker357
    @jeffreybarker357 18 дней назад

    Please do a video like this on cars that don't actually meet these guidelines. The Mazda MX-5 is already low-production and some models are order-only. This means no built up time on the lot. No piled up interest the dealer is excited to get out from under.
    The other things are still solid. OTD, financing, etc.

  • @cdnmetelhead4013
    @cdnmetelhead4013 24 дня назад +3

    I am told that my car buying strategy is flawed. I only buy new cars. Everyone tells me that I should buy a 3 year old car to minimize the depreciation. They also tell me that I should get a new car now because my car does not have Apple CarPlay and a fancy 13 inch screen. They also tell me to get a newer car because mine is older and repairs will put me in the poor house.
    In the past 15 years most of these co-workers have bought and replaced 3 to 4 cars. I have a 19 year old car. I know the complete history of the car and I know that has been properly maintained. I feel that over 20 years my costs will be lower.
    What do you think?

    • @chrisbullarde
      @chrisbullarde 13 дней назад

      Might I suggest that you lease a car. You can lease a car for less than most people pay per month. If you're always driving a new car and always subject to having a payment why not cut that payment in half since you're just going to be giving the car back anyway. At least that's my take on it if you want to always be driving a new car

    • @cdnmetelhead4013
      @cdnmetelhead4013 13 дней назад

      @@chrisbullarde Thanks for the input. I don’t need to have a new car just a reliable car. I have been driving mine for the last 14 years without a car payment. The only problem is dealing with people commenting on my culture (my parents were Scottish). I must say my South Asian coworkers are very complimentary.

  • @thomasmargolis6057
    @thomasmargolis6057 Месяц назад

    Still amazed that I got a fair deal, with few games from the dealer for 2025. Transperancy. There was an
    issue with a/c, where that reduced the amount for trade in, given the potential costs.

  • @billlane7499
    @billlane7499 Месяц назад +7

    I just want to say thank you guys for that valuable information when I eventually pursue purchasing a new car.
    Have a great day.

  • @kingzts
    @kingzts Месяц назад +1

    I guess with these rules to apply, you must be flexible on what kind of car and packages involved. I needed specific specs, for an entry car, and I was not going to budge. Therefore, I couldn't apply most of these things.

  • @party_with_snax4217
    @party_with_snax4217 Месяц назад +3

    Hey guys, I listen to your older podcasts all day at work and they’re awesome thank you. I hear Kimberly talk about her speaking to or having consultations over the phone. Where is that an available service on your site? Can I pay to have a talk with her or someone there before I go to buy a car to answer some last minute questions I have?? Thank you

  • @tomdchi12
    @tomdchi12 Месяц назад +5

    What are the logistics of a Pre-Purchase Inspection? You mention it as a contingency but how do you get the car from the dealership to the inspection? Drive it, obviously! But is it an overnight/multi-day thing? Good mechanics are busy. What should you sign and what shouldn’t you sign? Etc.

    • @CannaWine
      @CannaWine Месяц назад +4

      Last year when I did a purchase, I did 2 inspections. One from the seller (Private seller) and one that I researched myself. Both times, I drove the vehicle to the mechanics. You would wanna call ahead and make arrangements with the mechanic and communicate if the PPI can be done the same day. Yes, good mechanics are busy but call ahead.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +2

      Touch base with your mechanic well before you get serious about buying. Ask how you can best get a PPI (quickly) in a way that also benefits him or her. Often, if you've been with a Technician over 10+ years, they will honor that loyalty by helping you get the vehicle in/out asap. During that initial call, let him know the brands/models you're considering and ask him about that as well. Cheers!

    • @Patton0911
      @Patton0911 Месяц назад +1

      That’s the problem with the inspection. Unless the dealership offers 7 day returns if you don’t like the vehicle. Then maybe someone could get you in within that 7 day period.

  • @jimdfwwoodworks37
    @jimdfwwoodworks37 Месяц назад +2

    im going with the car buying service when Im ready. I cant even think about spending hours in a dealership!

  • @bornred8
    @bornred8 Месяц назад +1

    You guys are so awesome!!❤

  • @williamflckle2694
    @williamflckle2694 20 дней назад

    My dad was running the dealership back in the 60s if a car sit on the lot for more than 30 days. The used car manager may end up selling it to one of the salesman, but just taking it out of their checks.

  • @premsapkota4942
    @premsapkota4942 6 дней назад

    Hi Zack, how do we figure out for how long has the car been in the lot? Do we need to ask the sales team? Or do they have anything clue on their site, Ad?

  • @goddesignd
    @goddesignd 6 дней назад

    Now, how do I go about getting the car inspected outside of the dealership before I buy the car?

  • @adventuretraveling8957
    @adventuretraveling8957 Месяц назад +7

    Thanks for your amazing tips on buying car !! dealership peoples are really monsters

  • @blindstrom70
    @blindstrom70 Месяц назад +2

    Did my best to follow your guides. Purchased a 2024 Bronco Sport Outer Banks with tech package for $33k otd… traded my 2011 Avalanche for more about what I was hoping but more than KBB said. Think I did pretty good. Had about 10 dealerships I contacted but only 2 wrote down the OTD price. Couldn’t get the others to do it with one stating “you are just gonna go somewhere else to have them beat it”. Well, even without him writing it down I still got them to beat it! lol. Overall I think I did alright. Gave up the color I wanted though to get the best deal. I’m ok with that.

  • @alicereno6688
    @alicereno6688 14 дней назад

    Anyone think that buying a 2020 Chrysler minivan a bad idea, I feel like I already know the answer but I really like this one I found on a dealers lot listed for 29k and it’s a hybrid (I love hybrids)- working on getting the OTD price now

  • @barrymccaulkiner7092
    @barrymccaulkiner7092 11 дней назад

    The car that I want is not currently at the dealership in my current scenario. It's currently in transit so it hasn't technically been sitting on the lot. When does the dealer have to start paying on in-transit vehicles? How does haggling work in this scenario? Email tag? I'd rather not have to haggle in person.

  • @periscopeup1984
    @periscopeup1984 Месяц назад +3

    In 2021 it was 2.5% for my new tundra. It’s ridiculous that it’s now 5 or 8 % and 75+ k out the door.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +1

      (In context): Historically those rates are not outrageous. It's the hyper-inflated MSRPs/"SRP" that grenades the entire financial equation (imo). The MSRPs are unobtainable.

    • @taynguyen7792
      @taynguyen7792 Месяц назад +1

      People are still buying like crazy even though the interest is above 7%

  • @highendtrends3508
    @highendtrends3508 8 дней назад

    What if the vehicle I’m looking to purchase is certified preowned from the dealer? And if it comes with a warranty, should I still get it checked by a mechanic?

  • @LisaDia14
    @LisaDia14 Месяц назад +6

    Always good, helpful info from Ray and Zach! Who doesn’t love a birthday celebration? Happy early birthday Zach!

  • @undisgraziato
    @undisgraziato Месяц назад +2

    Do you still need to get financing beforehand if the manufacturer is offering 0% or a really low interest rate? I wouldn’t think so

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +1

      Only as a backup plan for the possibility of being "declined" for approval by the OEM finance arm. There's never a bad time to have that pre-approval and knowledge of it with you as you shop. It helps/protects everything and hurts nothing. Just my opinion.

  • @mrsoccergod5001
    @mrsoccergod5001 Месяц назад +2

    How do I get rid of the add on for vin etching, the dealer says it's mandatory

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +4

      It's not mandatory that you pay for it. Dealers will always try to suggest various add-ons "are mandatory". Ask them if they're willing to lose the sale and a customer over "VIN etching".

  • @kirkmanning6232
    @kirkmanning6232 Месяц назад +1

    I could always beat a customer’s bank or credit union rates and keep the financing. Always.
    From my 20 years in the business, the sad reality is that the vast majority of buyers show up not having done any vehicle research and then get sold something, something.
    Stupid!

  • @jimwright4723
    @jimwright4723 Месяц назад +2

    ASK FOR THE OUT THE DOOR TOTAL ON HOW YOU PLAN TO PAY !!!!!!!!!!!! I learned my lesson about asking for JUST the out the door price -- dealer gave the lowest they would sell the car alright, i showed up and the rest of the numbers started adding up real quick - to be fair i had no clue these figures were goin to be added later - Dealer response; since you are not trading you wont get the 3k trade discount that we already applied to the otd price and you plan on not using our banks so you wont qualify for the 2k finance discount so your out the door TOTAL is 5k more than the out the door price we posted -- Incentives are not a benefit to those that dont qualify and 9/10 times will not benefit those that qualify when they factor in lowball trade offer loss and overpaying on coverages and rates

    • @Gemini-kl1wn
      @Gemini-kl1wn Месяц назад +2

      They lied to you to get you in the door. They had no intention of honoring the price.

  • @CantrellMosley1
    @CantrellMosley1 Месяц назад +1

    This was hilarious and informative

  • @Bobawob
    @Bobawob Месяц назад

    I’m confused and have a question. When you ask for the out the door price, do you then try to get a better deal or do you take the deal.

  • @sirgardensalot
    @sirgardensalot Месяц назад +1

    Because of the incentives in Colorado Nissan are selling cars for $19 a month and $10 a month Nissan leaf you can get a an adapter for the car now

  • @Madknick
    @Madknick 9 дней назад

    Good info 👍

  • @icetray2727
    @icetray2727 Месяц назад +8

    I wish I knew this information before I bought my first car 2 years ago. Now that I’m planning getting a new car within the next year and a half, I’m finally doing the research and I won’t go to the dealership looking goofy.

    • @CannaWine
      @CannaWine Месяц назад +1

      Wish I did my research before buying 2 cars but with experience and this wisdom- we making a SMART purchase

    • @icetray2727
      @icetray2727 Месяц назад

      @@CannaWine facts

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +1

      At some point we've all made those early mistakes. No more. Now *we* are bringing the pain to the dealers. g

  • @edwardthedriver4967
    @edwardthedriver4967 Месяц назад

    Great info guys !!!!

  • @RobinP556
    @RobinP556 Месяц назад +7

    How do you find out how long a car has been sitting on the lot? I’m looking at several Subaru dealerships and don’t see it on any of the listings.

    • @CannaWine
      @CannaWine Месяц назад +2

      Thats a good question, I would ask them directly

    • @anthonyjoyce7198
      @anthonyjoyce7198 Месяц назад

      @@CannaWine

    • @anthonyjoyce7198
      @anthonyjoyce7198 Месяц назад +1

      oh yeah they’ll tell you the truth!!!!😅

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад

      Ask for the CarFax on the vehicle. 90% of the time, the CarFax will give you a good indication of ownership dates/times.

    • @robertdascalu4441
      @robertdascalu4441 Месяц назад

      Rusted disck , not cleaned

  • @patrickmcmahon9156
    @patrickmcmahon9156 Месяц назад +3

    Surprised no one said 'First!'. Good info as always, guys

  • @nathanwright8616
    @nathanwright8616 Месяц назад +3

    what is a typical floor plan interest rate?

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад

      I'd guess lower than consumer rates, but varying quite a bit among dealers given their creditworthiness, volume of vehicles, and even the MFR who is "toting the note".

  • @eltebux
    @eltebux Месяц назад +6

    As much as i hate tesla, they do the selling really good, no bs and direct to consumer

  • @michaelriddle8196
    @michaelriddle8196 Месяц назад +3

    How do you find out how long a car has been on the lot

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад

      CarEdge website, done using the VIN

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад

      CarEdge website "search for a car" shows the days on lot for each result listing.

  • @damnsurfer522
    @damnsurfer522 21 день назад

    I'm considering buying a 2024 ford maverick. Is there a way to custom order the one I want and do you have a guide for that process?

  • @garyradford9381
    @garyradford9381 Месяц назад

    When dealer say it has add-ons tint floor ceramic coating door edge guards roughly 2900.00 what one I do not want !! ??

  • @rager1969
    @rager1969 Месяц назад +2

    To nitpick, interest rates aren't historically low, you're just comparing them to when they were historically high. It's like saying car prices are historically low because they are lower than two or three years when they were historically high.
    In my opinion, interest rates are at a historic average level. The interest rates from late 2008 to early 2022 were frankly too low, so we are back in normal territory, in, my opinion. Sure, it was good for businesses to expand and to buy a house, but a lot of people abused it and over-bought. Also, there was no reason to keep money in safe instruments because they didn't make any money, so people either invested in riskier instruments or didn't save at all, using all their money on purchases. So, when the market went down, they got hit. And if they lost their job, it was a double whammy.

    • @anthonyjoyce7198
      @anthonyjoyce7198 Месяц назад +2

      Don’t borrow money on depreciating liabilities ( they are not assets)

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад

      Interest rates from The Great Recession period up to the most recent FED rate hikes were "fake". A desperate measure by the Fed and Federal Govt. to avoid another crash or prolonged recession. It had to END, and the FED ended those rates much later than they should've.
      One reason why our United States Federal Government has an HISTORICALLY out of control "annual budget deficit" and overall (cumulative) "National Debt". It took many years for inflation to set in, but when it finally came - whoa.

  • @DanielDuhon
    @DanielDuhon 23 минуты назад

    Historically low interest rates? That’s the most absurd thing I’ve heard

  • @carmenplacido9479
    @carmenplacido9479 Месяц назад +2

    What price range should we expect for a PPI??

    • @Mark-rt6fy
      @Mark-rt6fy Месяц назад +2

      200 tops

    • @CannaWine
      @CannaWine Месяц назад

      Depending the state- Here in California, ranges from 120 - 160 depending the vehicle of course

  • @hands-to-work1601
    @hands-to-work1601 Месяц назад

    Looked at a low mileage Hyundai at a great price, only to get quoted $2k dealer fees. Thanks to you I just walked away from it.

  • @outdoorlife5396
    @outdoorlife5396 Месяц назад +2

    I had a problem with GMAC financing one time. It was the last time I used GMAC or bought a GM product.

    • @johnnylongfeather3086
      @johnnylongfeather3086 Месяц назад

      What was it

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад

      GMAC is dead. Went bankrupt in/around The Great Recession. It was sold off and re-formulated as Ally Financial.

  • @95bravo101st
    @95bravo101st Месяц назад +8

    What should the response be when they ask if your paying cash, financing or have a trade in and how does that affect the otd price?

    • @CannaWine
      @CannaWine Месяц назад

      I just signed up to CarEdge which has cheat sheets on & scripts on how to respond to these questions

    • @jonmccormick6805
      @jonmccormick6805 Месяц назад +2

      I saw it covered in a couple of older videos. It shouldn't be too hard to find with a search

  • @rgilroy1909
    @rgilroy1909 Месяц назад +1

    What should you be paying for a PPI? Is it better to get one done @ a dealership or independent mechanic?

    • @CannaWine
      @CannaWine Месяц назад

      Do it at an independent mechanic- about 1 mile away from the dealership so there not buddy buddy. Plus, you would wanna test drive the vehicle so you can knock two birds with one stone on that move.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +1

      As a general rule for car owners, everyone (everyone) needs a good and trusted local technician. Consider it a relationship, sort of like with a family physician.

  • @serbianfinest1
    @serbianfinest1 16 дней назад

    I am trying to buy a 2024 Kia Telluride and have a trade in do u think i can get a kia for less than dealer is asking

  • @johndesaavedra1040
    @johndesaavedra1040 Месяц назад

    OTD and my checkbook.

  • @LTA11762
    @LTA11762 Месяц назад

    “Always know how long a vehicle is sitting on the dealers lot” ….. makes sense as a negotiation tool, but how is one to find out this information without paying you guys by joining your site to get it? Is there a way the consumer can access this information besides paying you guys to join your Car Edge site or asking the dealer outright, and hoping that he’s going to give you an answer?

    • @CarEdge
      @CarEdge  Месяц назад +1

      There is no charge for the days on lot information, it is available for free when you use the CarEdge vehicle search tool. Days on market is right there for you, now if you want the invoice amount or our target price, those are things that you need to pay for.
      2024 Nissan Rogue SL 4WD
      VIN: JN8BT3CB8RW437869
      Stock#: 240383
      Mileage: 11
      Days on Market: 105
      $40,415
      MSRP
      $0
      Invoice Price
      Unlock
      No Data
      Target Discount
      All the best, Ray

    • @RoccoSalvatore-d5n
      @RoccoSalvatore-d5n Месяц назад

      @@CarEdgeRay you’re a clown

    • @LTA11762
      @LTA11762 Месяц назад

      @@CarEdge thank you

  • @Barbarapape
    @Barbarapape Месяц назад +3

    All great advice, here in the UK every dealer has to provide an "On The Road" price
    why it is so difficult in the USA to find out the OTD price seems alien to me.
    Re financing i agree, dealers make a nice little extra by selling you the finance.
    Always beware of finance contribution offers, they are not free, you be paying for them
    at some point as you have to use the dealers finance to be elligable for them.
    Buying a new or used car is a nightmare, get it wrong and you will have buyers remorse
    for years.

    • @jerrylundegaard2592
      @jerrylundegaard2592 Месяц назад +3

      Easy answer. In the US of A the Republican Party will not allow the government to protect the consumer.

    • @Barbarapape
      @Barbarapape Месяц назад +2

      @@jerrylundegaard2592 That explains a lot.
      Let's hope that Trump will introduce some consumer protection. as well as cancel the insanity
      of EV's.

    • @SingleStacked
      @SingleStacked Месяц назад

      @@jerrylundegaard2592 So what has the Democratic party done to protect the consumer?

    • @jerrylundegaard2592
      @jerrylundegaard2592 Месяц назад

      @@SingleStacked To stay on topic, MAGA boy, the Dems in the CFPB are working to prohibit car dealers from playing their games of hide the fees and charging for useless products. The Rethugs are, of course, against this.

    • @jerrylundegaard2592
      @jerrylundegaard2592 Месяц назад +1

      @@Barbarapape Trump introduce some consumer protection? You are attempting a joke, right?

  • @marlon9683
    @marlon9683 Месяц назад

    How can I know how long it’s been sitting at the dealer ship ???

  • @jorgekumagai2672
    @jorgekumagai2672 26 дней назад

    But you don't have much option to choose from in USA right now!

  • @BTC909
    @BTC909 Месяц назад

    If you are buying a used Toyota from Ray Toyota have Zach Toyota do a PPI.

  • @BehindTheCounter_TFSO
    @BehindTheCounter_TFSO Месяц назад +2

    If you've picked out a vehicle that's already on the lot, I noticed I was charged a delivery fee. I thought the delivery fee was built into the MSRP. Is this correct?

    • @RedRider-mb3wt
      @RedRider-mb3wt Месяц назад +2

      Depending on the Monroney sticker (new cars), there will be the base price of the vehicle (varies by trim), the optional equipment charge (varies by options), and the delivery fee. All should be combined into the MSRP on the final line.

    • @UnionAdvocate
      @UnionAdvocate Месяц назад +6

      Yes. Delivery is always included in MSRP. If a dealer adds delivery to a line on a sales sheet, ask them to remove it. If they don’t, walk out.

    • @melvinpretlow7921
      @melvinpretlow7921 Месяц назад +2

      I’ve always seen destination charges as an additional cost to the price of the car. Normally a couple hundred bucks but not in the MSRP itself

    • @shackrat2331
      @shackrat2331 Месяц назад

      @@UnionAdvocate You must be confused. MSRP never includes Destination, it is listed after MSRP on the Monroney. Pull up a pic of a Monroney and see for yourself. CIAO!!!

    • @UnionAdvocate
      @UnionAdvocate Месяц назад

      @@shackrat2331 But the final price on the sticker includes destination. If the dealer is adding destination on the sales contract on a line not titled “MSRP” then they are trying to scam you into paying a second destination charge will they will pocket for the dealership. Destination on a sales contract is never a separate entry because it is already included in the final MSRP per the sticker you’re referencing. I’ve been buying cars for 25 years.

  • @lisaflores2016
    @lisaflores2016 Месяц назад +1

    I love your videos!!! So what do i need to do when I go into purchase my factory built vehicle? Do i have to pay the MSRP price

    • @CarEdge
      @CarEdge  Месяц назад +1

      Lisa this guide should help: caredge.com/guides/factory-order-a-car#google_vignette. All the best, Ray

  • @BigDawg408
    @BigDawg408 Месяц назад

    Great video

  • @mjm4ut
    @mjm4ut Месяц назад +1

    If I buy a certifed pre-owned from a dealership, do I still need the PPI?

    • @chrisforker7487
      @chrisforker7487 Месяц назад +2

      Absolutely! They aren’t looking at any of the potential bad things, just what are things that need fixing.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +2

      ^^^ What Chris said. Also note the CPO - is it from the original MFR or some 3rd party?
      CPO standards have dropped quite a bit during the pandemic. VIA CarFax, I now occasionally see "CPO" vehicles that have been in one or more accidents. I'm not making this up. So yes - a PPI from your trusted guy/people is obligatory.

  • @joeham9322
    @joeham9322 Месяц назад +4

    Despise these ppl. This is what I was quoted for a Mazda cx90: MSRP/Retail
    Selling Price cert
    Total Accessories
    Government Fees
    Proc/Doc Fees
    Total Taxes
    Total Balance Due
    $44,800.00
    Selling Price - Rebate
    $44,800.00
    $44,800.00
    $1,295.00
    $1,295.00
    $351.00
    $358.03
    $4,300.14
    $51,104.17
    Crazy

    • @Freerider93
      @Freerider93 Месяц назад

      @@joeham9322 Buying a new car is utterly insane.

  • @shadmeyer7791
    @shadmeyer7791 11 часов назад

    I didn’t care about interest rate, I paid it off in one year. I’m sure they were upset.

  • @wailingwoman6563
    @wailingwoman6563 Месяц назад

    What is your take on "LEASING" oppose to buying?

  • @ur_shulgi9133
    @ur_shulgi9133 Месяц назад +1

    So are you screwed if you go to your local dealership to find the specific model & color you want and they have to get it from another dealership? I know I can go but according to all search options, the specific models are out of state and if I go buy out of state, I have to then pay double tax (state tax I bought it in and then when I register in current state)??

    • @anthonyjoyce7198
      @anthonyjoyce7198 Месяц назад +6

      No you pay taxes based on your zip code only pay taxes one time

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +2

      @@anthonyjoyce7198 ^^^^ THIS. You are not "double (state) taxed".

  • @donaldhollingsworth3875
    @donaldhollingsworth3875 Месяц назад

    What does "reissue" mean on a 2024 Chevy window sticker?

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +1

      OEM/Factory Window Sticker = "The Monroney Label". Don't know. Does indicate something has been changed/updated by the MFR since the vehicle was released off the assembly line. Purely as a guess, I know some mfrs "updated" their MSRPs (lower) at times during the last 12 mos or so. In short, the new sticker indicates a (NON-DEALER) change. You could ask the sales manager and see what his story is.

    • @donaldhollingsworth3875
      @donaldhollingsworth3875 Месяц назад

      @@NVRAMboi The first time this truck appeared online was about a month ago, so I called to inquire about looking at it & taking a test drive. The salesperson I talked to said the truck was still at the factory awaiting delivery. Then about 2 weeks went by & the dealership didn't have it listed anymore. Then last week reappeared on the dealer's website with this reissue window sticker. I called the salesperson I talked to before & asked if the was on the lot & was told it was still at the factory awaiting delivery & he could not tell me what the reissue meant on the window sticker.

  • @Gemini-kl1wn
    @Gemini-kl1wn Месяц назад +4

    I'm looking into new Honda CR-Vs and Toyota RAV4s and dealers are adding "dealer installed accessories" and charging $2K to $3K for basically items that only cost about $300. If that isn't bad enough, they have the audacity to charge $500 to $1,000 doc fees.

    • @party_with_snax4217
      @party_with_snax4217 Месяц назад +4

      I was watching their old podcasts and I know they mentioned this. You don’t have to pay the full price of what they’ve added on. I think they said to say you don’t want it and since it comes already installed to take the price of them to dealer cost.

    • @CannaWine
      @CannaWine Месяц назад

      Dam, thats wild. Keep on consuming this content, digg around and you can discover what you can negotiate and what the dealers must charge

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +1

      You might be in Florida. a) talk w/other Toyota and Honda dealers. And b) consider test-driving the Subaru Outback, Crosstrek, and/or Forester as options. You might be surprised as to how good the Subarus are, along with pricing and "dealer behavior". There are also "equivalent" Mazda models that might work well.
      Just a suggestion. Good luck!

  • @mindyweller1451
    @mindyweller1451 Месяц назад

    Is VIN etching non negotiable? Most dealerships I've been trying to talk to are hesitant to give any info about cost of the vehicle. It's very frustrating.

    • @chrisforker7487
      @chrisforker7487 Месяц назад +1

      It’s negotiable! It’s too bad for them that they already did it, if you don’t want it tell them. If they don’t budge, walk.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +1

      Completely optional/negotiable. Dealer add-on. Get the charge removed or hit the dusty trail to their competitor.

  • @robertmason7013
    @robertmason7013 Месяц назад +1

    You hear about no haggle price dealerships.are you better off buying from them.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад

      ie: such as CarMax/no haggle. CM averages over $6k+ profit* per vehicle. That profit usually shows up in the sales price. So you're going to pay a bit more. OTOH, you see a vehicle you want and you pay the price that is posted. Additionally, you can get a "24 hour test drive" to take the vehicle home and get a feel for it. Beyond that, they have a "30-Day Money Back Guarantee" to protect against "buyer's remorse" up to 1,500 mi/vehicle returned in identical condition.
      So, CarMax ain't for everybody - but it's easy to see how it works for many buyers imo.
      *profit per vehicle changes quarterly, up or down.

  • @Snowboarder16
    @Snowboarder16 Месяц назад +3

    Wisdom from Ventner City, New Jersey! 😊😊😊

  • @dokknring1092
    @dokknring1092 Месяц назад +1

    Can i buy an OTD tshirt from caredge?

  • @jorgemagdaleno9085
    @jorgemagdaleno9085 Месяц назад

    Question. Any comment or what do you think about The Homework Guy claiming you guys double dip by charging customers and dealers a fee?

    • @CarEdge
      @CarEdge  Месяц назад +2

      We have addressed this before, we collect nothing from car dealers. Our only income comes our customers. Here is a recent video that Zach posted showing how we make money. studio.ruclips.net/user/videoXtcB9O5Huhk/edit.
      I Hope that helps. All the best, Ray

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад

      Sounds like "The Homework Guy" is trying to ski in the wake of CarEdge. I'm not even going to give the guy a view/click. Loser.

  • @grandmastert01
    @grandmastert01 Месяц назад +1

    My bank says they don’t do preappovals .

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +3

      You might want to get a new bank.

  • @brad19mase
    @brad19mase Месяц назад

    I miss when the car market was normal at 2%-4% on interest rates smh.

  • @SKendrickS
    @SKendrickS Месяц назад +1

    We need an intro like that on afs

  • @jj5ben77
    @jj5ben77 Месяц назад

    Thank god you guys are based in New Jersey!!

  • @Dreadnaught1Aw
    @Dreadnaught1Aw Месяц назад +1

    RAY WITH THE ALPHA ENERGY!

  • @bobberndt9744
    @bobberndt9744 Месяц назад +2

    Same info, different day. Okay, I am OTD. 🙋‍♂️

  • @pach197
    @pach197 Месяц назад

    Any tips in how to get pre-approval and where? New in US planning to get a car. Should i get new or used? I am thinking honda CRV.

    • @djdmac2417
      @djdmac2417 Месяц назад +1

      Credit unions are the best and 99% of the time offer the lowest interest rates.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +1

      Your local bank or credit union. You could start with the bank that holds your checking acct. Over a period of years, those relationships can be very helpful/important for consumers. Local is far more responsive/customer-oriented than any regional or national bank or credit union.

  • @gerirosman4983
    @gerirosman4983 Месяц назад +1

    What do I do if no dealer near me has the color of the model I want?

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад

      You've got internet search as your friend. OR......you could use/pay the CarEdge guys to locate it, negotiate the deal for it, and have it delivered to you - if you don't feel up to the hassle and headaches. I think the CE concierge service is great for any buyer who may not "know cars" or who is so busy they don't want to waste time listening to salesmen/dealers lie to them. :o)
      The CE fee, imo, provides a good value for the time, hassle, and ultimately money saved.
      ....
      PS: I'm not affiliated with CarEdge in any capacity. Just a subscriber to their channel.

    • @codincoman9019
      @codincoman9019 Месяц назад

      The most important indicators for a car are the reliability and the low TCO (Total Cost of Ownership). Colour is far less important as you can always change it.
      I had a super-deal on an awful rat-grey (~$2 less than the red I liked), but I wrapped the car with what I liked most for ~$1k!

  • @j01150126
    @j01150126 Месяц назад +1

    Yeah I screwed up. I tried to make a deal and got a 2021 Mazda with 24k miles for 27,800. The problem was that I should have looked at the web ad. It said all taxes and fees included for 27,485...I can't believe I sat there for 2 hours thinking I was getting a deal when a lost a couple hundred bucks because I didn't hold the to the ad.
    It not a total loss, the dollar isn't really worth anything so at least I have an asset in place of a currency that won't is worth less and less by the month.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +1

      a) Don't kick yourself over it. Most of us have done similarly at least once.
      b) There's a good chance you got a great vehicle that will last you quite a while.
      c) File the experience away for future use. You're going to benefit from stuff like this.
      Cheers!

    • @Freerider93
      @Freerider93 Месяц назад

      @@j01150126 🤣🤣🤣 A car is a depreciating asset. It 100% is worth less every day you drive it! Like seriously who taught yall about finances?!?

    • @codincoman9019
      @codincoman9019 Месяц назад +3

      The car is not an asset (maybe only compared to a lower-value-than-known currency).
      But Mazda is a great choice.

  • @SqueegeeKid.
    @SqueegeeKid. Месяц назад +4

    Ray!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @LeaOverAtVatic
    @LeaOverAtVatic Месяц назад

    Just curious why I can’t find a Prius on the Car Edge website?

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +1

      No flame, but you might be "doing it wrong" via their search. (edit) I just went over there and pulled up over "9000" used Prius. I didn't specify trim or "Prime" models.

  • @looking511
    @looking511 Месяц назад

    Would be happy with the brand of coffee you drink Ray

  • @myeldora6820
    @myeldora6820 Месяц назад

    I'm sure you said "Frosted Flakes" in the opening....Didn't you

    • @CarEdge
      @CarEdge  Месяц назад

      I certainly meant too! All the best, Ray

    • @myeldora6820
      @myeldora6820 Месяц назад +1

      @@CarEdge 🤣

  • @Noxide1021
    @Noxide1021 Месяц назад

    My friend got a 2025 Camry OTD 31k, completely over email

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад

      2025 Camry are all hybrids I think.

  • @Catherine-yi5ut
    @Catherine-yi5ut Месяц назад

    ❤🎉🎉

  • @macsloan58
    @macsloan58 Месяц назад

    The man is going to,stroke out if he’s not careful.

  • @scotbabb4606
    @scotbabb4606 Месяц назад

    Ray-Zach. What type of buying advantage is there to ordering a vehicle? Dealer doesn't have to worry about flooring the car, and it is a guaranteed sale, so one should be able to negotiate as good a deal if not better that one on the lot.

    • @CarEdge
      @CarEdge  Месяц назад +1

      Scott perhaps this will help: caredge.com/guides/factory-order-a-car#google_vignette. All the best, Ray

  • @garfieldsmith332
    @garfieldsmith332 Месяц назад +1

    Beware of dealer financing. They will almost always be able to get your purchased financed. They go to sub-prime where you could be paying 20% interest and up. Once they have the "cash" from the lender they no longer give a rats ass about you. If you find out you can not get pre-approved before you go to a dealer you will know the dealer will ream you up the wazoo on finance charges.

    • @rotart12arx3
      @rotart12arx3 Месяц назад +1

      Most vehicles for new will have low interest financing on new vehicles.

    • @garfieldsmith332
      @garfieldsmith332 Месяц назад +1

      @@rotart12arx3 Low interest rate for those that qualify. Bad credit risks do not get the low rates. They end up with the sub-prime lender's rates which are a lot higher.

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад +1

      @garfieldsmith332: If you've taken care of your FICO score and have a pre-approval in your pocket, this isn't an issue.

    • @garfieldsmith332
      @garfieldsmith332 Месяц назад

      @@NVRAMboi Yes, If you are pre-approved you are not going to worry about getting financing from the dealership. Unless they can give you a better rate. It is the people who have a bad credit rating who get stuffed by the dealerships. If you have no per-approval and go to the dealership and they get a "hard decline" from a bank you will have to go to sub-prime. They will get an approval somewhere at a very high rate.

    • @rotart12arx3
      @rotart12arx3 Месяц назад +1

      @@garfieldsmith332 Which makes sense. Are you going to loan your money out to someone who has proved they won't pay it back?

  • @markb4261
    @markb4261 Месяц назад +1

    Sounds like lots of corruption in the car business. Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
    Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

  • @makster86
    @makster86 Месяц назад

    LOL

  • @dlh302
    @dlh302 Месяц назад +2

    Your expiration date on RUclips has come and gone. Time to find a new gig.

    • @jerrylundegaard2592
      @jerrylundegaard2592 Месяц назад

      Just met the new boss same as the last boss!

    • @NVRAMboi
      @NVRAMboi Месяц назад

      Are you a Hyundai salesman?