Batman: Joker’s New Origin
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
- Batman Issue 142 by Chip Zdarsky
▸ The tragic “death” of the leader of the Red Hood Gang in a vat of chemicals has become the subject of myth…but what is the heartbreaking and gruesome tale of the monster who walked away from that violent birth? And how does it affect Batman’s distant future? “The Joker Year One” begins here!
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Man can't they just give Victor Zsasz a story or something? How much more focus does the Joker need.
Thanks for covering this though Rob.
Joker is my favorite but man you are right theres way more interesting characters than just him
Bcuz DC is slow..
Arkham asylum living hell needs a show
Very true. Batman's rouge gallery has so much potential even after decades of story telling.
Only Joker and Batman sell comics.
The creator of Batman, Bill Finger, wrote a story a long time ago where Joker revealed he was a criminal named the Red Hood, except instead of Ace Chemicals it was a card company, and the Joker card inspired him.
Then Alan Moore took that and expanded it on Killing Joke. So after Zero Year, Joker being a criminal named Red Hood is 100% his self proclaimed origin whether people believe him or not. It's his only memory apparently
That being the only memory of Jokers from before the chaos is really powerful to me, especially as Jason Todd becomes red hood. I think in the context of that it makes Jason so much more the threatening as he could possibly even remind the Joker of his own trauma and humanity
@@1twin Very well put. A full circle moment for characters that have been around for decades
you are correct!! bill finger creates him and several of batman's best enemies. as well as robin and jim gordan
@@nicholaschapman6763 the GOAT.
Wasn't there a third creator of the Joker. I wanna bring that guy's name into the conversation. So he too gets some street cred.
Joker: "If I were to have a history about me. I prefer multiple choice."
Yes, yes, we all know the quote 🙄
@@CommanderShepard-wq3wo it’s a good quote. Or for another quote from the clown prince of crime: “A defined joker? One with a name? An identity? Why that ruins the very definition of me. I am chaos. I am the devil in the pale moonlight. I am nothing to you and everything. I’ll keep twisting that knife until the day we both die together.”
If you're going to post the obligatory post that literally everyone knows, you could at least get it right
Joker is the one telling the story to batman... so who knows how much truth there will be to it. He loves to make up stories. Thats just one more thing we love about him... "sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another."
Choose your own adventure
The Red Hood origin was first touched upon in "The Untold Legend of the Batman" which predates "The Killing Joke" by about 8 years.
Thank you even legends make mistakes
I literally have that book The Untold Legend of Batman I bought it when I was 7 years old
@@xtheflabeox8813 thats pretty cool. How is it?
Small note about the Use of the name Grey Ghosts for the Gang.
"Beware the Gray Ghost" was an Episode of the Animated series back in the 90's, guest starring Adam West as the Gray Ghost
Guessin the name is a reference
I was thinking the same thing. That can’t be missed by anybody. The grey ghosts.
the Grey Ghost is also one of the monikers that Lee falks Phantom went by back before it was colored. Phantom predates batman by a couple of years.
The scene of the Joker seeing his normal reflection in the water and then attempting to kill it is reminiscent of the greek tragedy of Narcissus, just turned on it's head.
@comicsexplained can you go over the Green Lantern story about John Stewart retiring to take care of his sick mom.
Actually something I chose to do 4 years ago to help my mom battle her cancer and ultimately ended up losing her in 2022. I genuinely think this story resonates really well with a lot of people dealing with loss and wanting to do anything and everything they can to help their loved ones
My condolences to you man
Everytime the writers try and say *"THIS is Joker's origin,"* I just assume it's Joker making up another version in his head. Makes me less mad.
I hope we get an origin story of the riddler one day where he's called the wriggler and he doesn't do riddles he just wriggles around because he's so wriggly. Makes about as much sense as this origin.
ikr lol
9:08 and if it's the same gang changing appearance to seem like copy cats, it's a similar cop out to the killing joke, where the guy in the red hood was always a patsy, buy the cops wouldn't know it, and the lowbies who planned it can lie. Plausible deniability for previous crimes or overall responsibilities all the same.
Two days in a row of DC!! Be still my heart. Thanks, Rob!!
Video editing props! The flocks of moving birds over the last slowly moving page was well executed. Chef's kiss.
The Untold Legend of Batman was a paperback book that I bought when I was in grade school I'm 45 years old
Call me old fashioned, but I’ve always preferred when it’s multiple choice.
I am really intrigued at this idea of the Jokers new origin and the evolution of the Joker Gas.
I picked this issue up at the shop today and they were playing comics explained throughout the store 😂
Joker is the one telling the story to batman... so who knows how much truth there will be to it. He loves to make up stories. Thats just one more thing we love about him... "sometimes I remember it one way, sometimes another." Its a multiple choice 😂
"Again, Bullwinkle? That trick never works!"
Classic 😂
The best part of this video is at the end when Rob's avatar pops up exactly over the head of one of the zombie jokers lol
The art in this one is gorgeous.
Jesus Christ...here we go with another Joker story, no character has been overused or oversaturated more in the last 35 years more than the damn joker 🃏 it's like DC Comics doesn't realize that Batman has other villains other than the Joker
Yea that's one of DC's biggest problems. Over-reliance on their staple heros and villains
Personally i want to see more of the guy with the giant Penny
I love you enthusiasm! It encourages me myself to really just enjoy the experience in the moment
Thank you Rob!🎉
these modern writers just keep ruining mythical characters.
I just read these comics and I watched this video so I could understand more about them because some parts I though were confusing. Thanks for this video!
Something feels good when Rob is covering a Batman story.
Wait, you missed the Three Jokers that appeared at the start of the story
Story was fine until the "Batman mentor" shows up. That's just dumb, joker shouldn't ever be trained
Why shouldn’t joker be trained? I mean he regularly fights Batman I feel like he should be able to at least keep up with him.
These comics are so dope and I love these videos btw it’s super interesting always and so full of context it’s awesome!!! 😌
To do that's talking to joker chores and kind of looks like one of Batman's teachers. What he was going around with ghost maker.... This the crazy one that was trying to prevent him that alfred was dead
They should put the Joker in the freezer for 5 years and not use it at all. They basically ruin it with all these "twists".
“This was written by a guy named “Alan Moore”.”
LOL I fucking love you Rob!!! 🤣🤣❤️❤️❤️
One thing I'd like to know is how the joker just manages to start multiple world ending scenarios, whenever he's rebooted.
Don't fix what ain't broke.
Joker don't need a origin story.
Joker doesn’t have a origin tho, that’s what makes the joker, joker right?
Hes always had some backstories whether dc decides to change it or invent more on this.
The killing joke did show who he was. But nothing is ever set in concrete especially when dealing with the joker.
👍I just said something similar
I'd say the green-gassin' goof earned a decent background check 😅
No what makes him Joker is that he's crazy af. You can have a joker with an origin story and they're still the joker
@@everettjohnson9374 yep people claim joker having a backstory is bad despite absolutely loving heath ledger joker. One bad day is all it takes. This claims joker was a normal person who just was unlucky and dealt the wrong hands.
Overall joker being absolutely insane and un understandable is what makes him cool. His plans are so convoluted that you never know what happens.
Love the new Joker Videos!!
Cool video. Random, but you sound similar to Frank Welker.
Don't explain the magic. Any Joker origin is as bad as the concept of midi-chlorians.
Great video rob!
The Idea of "Joker" came from a movie in the 1920's called "The Man Who Laughs". Played by Conrad Veidt as Gwynplaine[The Man who Laughs]. Hints where the name of "The Batman who Laughs " derives from. Pretty good movie of it's time. Must see!!!
Comics Explained, please, just please cover Maestro World War M!!!?
Joker not having an origin DOES NOT MAKE THE JOKER. ITS HIS ACTIONS AND THE THINGS HE DOES. You guys heard this and are running with it like sheep. I dOnT kNoW jOkErS pASt ThAt MaKeS HiM tHe GoAt. REALLY?
Agreed.
Why do they keep trying to give him a origin, he's better without one
Personally i dont like the idea of a joker origin story. But if there *had* to be one it should be a line of stories. 5 or 6 stories that are all equally valid but completely different origin stories.
For me bonus points if they had hints that hes telling the story himself. Then at the end the last line of the last book is "if i have a history. I prefer it to be multiple choice" (or whatever the line is from the killing joke)
That joke slapped lmao.... "A help group called on and on anon"
That ending side story sounds like the premise of Pontypool, with the audible virus turning people into what are essentially zombies. That said, I wish we could get more than Joker from DC. For instance, Alfred is still dead right now, you can bring him back and do a redux of the classic Outsider saga. That guy hasn't been used since the Crime Syndicate New 52 stuff, and even then that's an alternate universe Outisder. The real deal hasn't been seen since the 70's when Alfred melted around a third of Manhattan. I like that villain.
That’s how I remember it this time
Presumably this origin is just as definitive as other Joker origins, as in barely to not at all. Like he said in The Killing Joke: "If I have to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice."
DC has possibly the best villain origin ever put to page, but they just can't help themselves. DC continues to flog this dead horse to try to bleed out a few more souless dollars no matter how much it further it craps all over The Killing Joke and its legacy.
I just wanna take a moment to say that the Red Hood gang attire is so dope with the suits and obviously the red hoods (or masks more like I think but still)
I still like the idea of Jokers true origin story to remain a mystery. But im not against trying to explore what it could be, although i dont want it to be definitive. Its comic books, everything changes back and forth and its fun to see how what things let to what. I do like the idea of a story of the joker as he starts going insane or what happens immediately after falling into the vat. I guess they wanted to connect him more to batman through one of his mentors. It kinda feels weird, at least right now as to why that person would want to make the Joker able to unleash his full potential. I do like how all of it does fit in with a lot of the other stuff about the joker we know, like him having family then being the red hood to what we now him as. The mentor was talking about how to be fearless, so it could be one of his more mental stability trainers instead of combat, especially since the art depicted him to look calm while being choked. So i guess we will see how the xur en arrh persona manifested.
I honestly would like to see the story of the joker plague lol.
Loved the Gray (Grey) Ghost reference. :D
I loved the joker year one books... it's batman 145 and 146 I'm unsure about... waiting for 147 to see if it cleans this all up
"The Gray Ghost" haven't heard that name in a while
Wow, Bollland's art just showcases how much standards have dropped since the 80's age
Bro how did you get it early, this comic hasn't even came out yet 😂
Its nice to be noticed.
Might be one of the good Joker Origins I have heard of
Batman the knight is a recent story that took place that covers Batman’s origin. I’m pretty sure that guy was one of his teachers.
the ending to a joker story, insane? sounds on brand
Isn’t this like the 100th time over the last 8 years where we have gotten “Joker zombies”? This, Endgame, Joker War… it’s boring.
Also, Joker getting training to become Joker is the dumbest idea I’ve heard in a LONG time.
OK, so they're doing a reverse-deadpool, like Borderlands 2 did with Krieg. His sane, rational, conscious mind is trapped on the inside where only he can hear, and the voice he presents to the rest of the world is the dangerously unstable inner-monologue that usually gets filtered through the conscious mind and rendered 'safe'.
I wish New 52 would have worked. Costumes & all. Seemed grounded. Like an Ultimates version of DC almost.
Thanks for giving DC some love
Tbh i dont see why Zdarsky doesn’t lead his Batman run with a strong, hopelessly morbid premise like that secondary story in this issue as it shows way more promise than what he’s been cooking/ burning with Zur-en-arr so far, especially since he chose to drag Bruce & the rest of the family over a contrived bed of nails to get here, although the multiverse of Batmen & Bruce being the Sarah Connor in his Terminator story was pret cool
Everytime they try to add to the joker’s story origin story the lore it gets worse. It’s like every writer doesn’t understand the entire point of The Killing Joke was just the joker made up that origin story
It always starts good to a slow burn to conclude it that is the way of Batman and the Joker stories for me at least. still good.
The thing about corrupting heroes is losing that drive to combat problems instead of becoming them, its a why try when its all evil without a stop gap. It gets polluted, all that to say Jim Gordon is always better off as the swirly guy who is committed to doing what's right when it sucks, it's okay to be corrupt, while Bruce is the one who goes where no one wants to be when its bad he goes in.
My favourite Joker storyline is when Alfred confesses that he was the Joker all along and that he came up with the Joker to give Batman a ying to his yang.
This Joker would make a very interesting host for Carnage.
The Killing Joke “Was at one point the definitive Joker story..” ? smh
couldn't really give a crap about the 27 previous versions, give it six hours and the universe will be re-booted
Good video, love comic history and narratives of the story.
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That last panel tho with all the joker infected ppl 🙂↔️😤 reminds me of 28 days later
DC is just milking this character at this point. Does anyone think knowing his definitive origin makes him cooler? They keep going down this road and he'll have a lame origin like Wolverine - just to squeeze a few more bucks out of him. Garbage. Sorry to be a bit negative, but they just won't leave the past a mystery and that baffles me.
Am I the only one that hates having a known origin for the joker?
My favorite scene in a comic ever:
*the joker passes Batman a gift*
Happy batday, birthman!
*batman opens the present, because he is a good person, it’s a card for new parents, but it’s expired, this, is a JOKER JOKE*
FOR JEDI ACOLYTE 26:
ROB JEFFERSON, HEAR OUR CRY CHARACTER EXPLAINED/ MAMMOTH MOGUL(ARCHIE), DURGE(STAR WARS), ENERJAK(ARCHIE)
Siiiiiiiiigh...fyi Rob...you are the only reason Im watching this video
The Killing Joke origin is itself based on the original story from 1951.
0:40 hh…hhh…hhhow many months
Am I crazy or in that last image, doesn't it look like Jack Nicholson in the middle and Morbius on the left?
hunny wake up, new joker origin just dropped
Maybe this is Joker misremembering his origin. After all, he has said in The Killing Joke, sometimes he remembers it one way, sometimes another.
A virus that is spread through auditory means was done in the comic irredeemable when an alien virus was released that killed children and was spread by their screams
Wait I thought the new 52 was collapsed into a new universe.. Are they still doing new 52 stories?
I haven't kept up with this. But I need to confirm, is No. 2 is actually Manny, that crooked detective? He looks the same.
Joker origin....how tedious
When everyone is the joker no one is
Joker on The Prince Of Grime has evolved beyond his origins to something elemental a walker through emotions of both fear and laughter a man born of chemicals has become an elemental of liquid laughter a grinning smile of something to be feared and sorrowed as the deeper he goes there will no route back for this jester of fear the darkness is yet to happen and the future is the laughter?
Joker has no origin. He doesn't even remember his own name. His history is multiple choice.
Rob you have a really bad habit of not using the name of the comic
Oh thrilling... another Joker origin... DC has nothing new to do ?
Great video! Check out Batman The Knight #8 for more on the mysterious man following the Joker. His name is Dr. Daniel Captio and he trains Bruce Wayne in that issue. Also written by Chip Zdarsky! 👍
There was a small reference to the vat of green goo in the latest issue of Penguin.
Joker has more origins now than Batman has reboots lol 😅
Multiple choice
I hate everything about this haha.
I may hate this more than I hate Heath Ledgers Joker.
So a random dude teach the joker how to be the joker ? Waw... I knew this "new origin" was gonna suck but I have to tell I'm impressed by the scale of it.
That should be a movie.
Newest multiple choice option you mean.