How To Hand-Make Eyewear From Acetate
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Kevin Count joins us at the Laramy-K OpticianWorks Training Center to teach us how to hand-make a pair of frames from a sheet of acetate.
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I keep getting asked where the raw acetate sheet comes from. The company is Mazzucchelli. I'd just Google search or try McCray Optical out of Canada. Maybe try cnc-acetate out of France. Gotta be honest - it isn't easy to find.
Very informational video. I was curious about the glasses-making process after shopping online for a couple new pairs. Thank you for sating my curiosity! You just earned a new subscriber :)
can you speak normally please? it sounds like an info-mercial, which is off-putting
Absolutely Fascinating process! How long do you think the process would take once you got some practice under your belt?
Minimum 100% by hand (no CNC stuff) probably about 16 hours for something quite basic.
It's good to see Woodglut have new instructions to save my money and energy to build it.
I love this video! I am a silvermith, leathersmith and have made stained glass using a table top sander, kind of like the router. You have inspired me to use my skills and tools to make and do something completely different that I haven't thought of before! Thank you!
Watch for an upcoming video on a book about independent eyewear makers. Small number of folks out there doing the true one-off stuff like Kevin but they are out there. Silver and leather could make for some wicked cool stuff!
Ngl I feel asleep and woke up here, not disappointed
Great video.I like both host and Kenvin, I want to hear how to he say and share about everything. Hope you share more video about glasses .
Guys , I watched the video to the end and had a great time. Thanks. I don't even know why I started to watch the video, I'm far from even a remote interest in making eyewear but I always loved making various stuff from scratch . Thanks for giving me 35 minutes of relaxing , enjoyable time. Cheers
You are welcome. John
Thanks for sharing all these informations to us John. Much appreciated:)
I’ve been through a quite long process of investigation about the manufacture of acetate handmade frames, this is the best video and reference so far. The only thing I miss are high quality hinges, which I see you got in the video, could you please tell us how to purchase them? Greetings from Colombia 🙌🏻
Those came from SIOS which is the US distributor for Centro-Style out of Italy. Greetings from South Carolina!
I was waiting and missed how you get the arms to have the correct angle mounting so frame is mounted at correct vertical and also arms resting on ears right.
Enjoyed the video ! I’ll be attempting to create a frame for my lenses out of my (extinct) Addidas frames that broke (with some personal customization).
I’m an LDO out of Florida, i am wondering still where can we buy acetate sheets.
Great video. Thanks to you for hosting Kevin, and thanks to Kevin for sharing his hard won skills.
Absolutely brilliant! So many companies say 'handmade', when they actually use CNC routers and other automated machinery to cut, shape and finish frames. No doubt it's cheaper, but in no way could you call it handmade.
A great video enjoyed watching it, I am a Lab technician would like to get Mr kevin contact details to get some more details. thank you.
Where can you buy acetate?
WOW this is amazing than you for sharing this video I really enjoyed watching it until the end and the result is fantastic. I just have a question sir where can I find the acetate "thing" ? I don't know what its called sorry.
Raw acetate sheet is very difficult to find. You might start with Albert at McCray Optical out of Canada. www.mccrayoptical.com/index.php Even if the website doesn't show it give him a call. If that doesn't work let me know I have one other possible source. John
Great video. I’m a dispensing optician in the UK and would love to start doing this. I was wondering though, do these specs have a metal core wire in the temple, and how are they inserted? I know there are fancy machines that shoot them in, but if working by hand, how would you do it? Thanks 👍
This pair did not. You might check with Kevin but I believe the core is inserted in a cutout and then acetate molded in place. His contact info is at the end of the video. Count Eyewear Illinois USA.
@@LaramyKOptical Great, thank you very much👍🙏
So now we know how Bill Gates, Warren Buffet, and Donald Trump get their eyeglass frames made.
Sadly, as I sit here in my seventies, "living" on social security, I confess I've finally given up on thinking of how life will be for me when I grow up.
It's never gonna happen...
Sir I m from India ple i know about how to make handmade hair clips by cellulose acetate hair clips it is possible directly grenuale mix by injection Mould use directly not sheet
Awesome video! I actually like all of the ones you make but this was very much to my taste ;)
two things i missed was the bending of the acetate to give it the desired inclination and inserting the rods into the temple, but i can imagine you can do only so much without an actual eyewear factory there ;) Never stop making these!
Maarten! It has been a while now but I'd say that 99% of the bend came from cutting the bend in/out of the larger piece not from heat or some other technique after the fact. That pair didn't have a wire core within the temple. Yeah that gets tricky. You can track down Kevin through Count Eyewear. Maybe you have a trip to Chicago coming up! Great city. In fact rumor has it he may be quite excited to have you. John
This is amazing!
By any chance do you know the name of the machine that you used to create the hole inside the frame?
I'm pretty sure if you look/watch very closely you can make it out in one of the shots. It is a very high end table top router. You can use a Dremel one which is what we begin with - the black one attached to the table. Cordless ran down quite quickly. John
I think you'd better wear your mask when polishing your work.
I don't know John Malkovich is handy enough to do this before...
Good job , Thans for your support , we wait you in new videos
Absolutely the best handmade eyewear video I’ve ever seen.
Por favor. .los subtitulos impiden ver bien todos los detalles.
These videos have been helping my sister through school so keep up the good work.👍🏼
I really enjoyed this. If I ever visit Chicago I'd love to stop by and say hello. This is a skill that needs to stay alive in the profession!
Interesting that the frame making expert wears rimless glasses....
Neither one of us is wearing rimless in the video and most opticians do own multiple pairs of glasses...
@@LaramyKOptical thanks for the clarification Laramy. Got a lot out of the video and was great to see the passion for the craft that the two of you demonstrated
8 hours???? Fk that 😂 it’s called made on China.
Why you are not using CNC instead of cutting out by hands with saw?
Thank you for sharing this information. can we customize our eyewear by scanning our face through Phones ? just like the way we unlock our Iphone
I don't see why not. I'm sure someone is using facial scans and 3D printing for frames.
Please make a vedio on preparing a acetate bar for glasses frane
Hi! Where I can find that blade @ 17:22 ?
Tough one! CNC-Acetate out of France. Crazy expensive and expect months to get it. John
Tough one! CNC-Acetate out of France. Crazy expensive and expect months to get it. John
What about compensating for different ear heights. Awesome video, Thanks.
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Can't recall the name or even if they are still around but there is a company trying to 3D print to match asymmetric issues. Most ordinary pairs can handle up to about a 1/2 discrepancy - best to be up front with the optician and say - "my one ear is quite a bit lower than the other." My own are pretty bad, Mom must have slept on her side I guess.
Where can I buy acetate sheets like that?? Can’t seem to find them anywhere. Also do you know the thickness of each sheet?
I don't have any of it here anymore. I sent it all off to Kevin. I'd get in touch with him. Thickness varies and even the block sizes are not consistent because it is hand made. I think you can see the sheet manufacturer name somewhere in the video Marazuchi or something like that. I don't think it is easy to find. McCray in Canada used to handle some. John
@@LaramyKOptical appreciate you John!
Bloody Hell!
VERY, VERY Cool video!! Thank you for sharing! Gave me a great insight into making eyewear!
Thanks a lot for this video and for the others as well
Any advice for what to use to attach a thick cord to the sides of your glasses to replace the legs? They hurt my ears.
Unless the frame is much too small for you an optician should be able to adjust those so they don't hurt. Chances are with a cord or strap you would just go from having sore ears to a sore nose. I don't think a cord is the answer to your problem.
Wow! Beautiful pattern! Very cool, interesting, and informative video! Like any artist or smith, there's so much passion and craftsmanship put into the work of this! The design of frames is a super minute and detailed undertaking for every design, and it's incredibly interesting and enjoyable to explore! 😁👍🏻
Hello Laramy, very interesting how to make an eyeglasses frame, I really appreciate what I'm learning on your page, thanks to you and the person who helped you...
Great video where can I buy this plastic and what name does it have I can’t find nothing online
Check with Kevin his contact information is at the end of the video. Count Eyewear in IL. I've lost track of the source. John
What about the bridge curve? How you make it and what tools you use :)
Thanks
Great job! Wanna try make 1 for me. What machine is on 17:11 ?
router / router table
Is there any computer program to help do this online?!!
?????? That would sort of defeat the idea of hand crafted now wouldn't it? But yes all acetate frames that aren't hand made are cut out on CNC machines from CAD templates.
Greetings, how can I reach out to Mr Kevin
Try: mail@corneropticalgv.com
Where Can I, a hobbyist, buy acetate from?
Tough to track down. One of the shots shows the brand name Marzucchi or something like that. McCray Optical out of Canada used to have some available. He is in NY for VEE at the moment so give a few to get back to you. John
Hello, where do you buy the blank acetate sheets from
I can't remember the name Marzuchi or something like that. I think one of the sheets has a label on it in the video or check with Kevin. Not easy to source.
Great to see it. I did it too. The plans from Woodglut helped me a lot :)
How are the tools used to measure the nose named?
I can't recall if they have a specific name. Kevin's contact information is at the end of the video I believe.
Hello! Where can I buy the dremel tool used to carve the line which will hold the lenses? Thanks!
The hinge looked firmly set but it was a skewed.
make one for me please
;-)
absolutely loved it. thank you!
where can we buy the acetate material to work with ? also some keywords to search it on google . THX
Excellent video and great job. I too want to try and make a par if glasses just for myself for a fun project. But it’s driving me nuts trying to find the type of solid nose pads you find on wayfarers for example. Do you have to make them yourself or can you please lead me in the right direction with their correct name and where to purchase them? Thanking you in advance.
Get in touch with Kevin his contact information is in both videos.
Dear sir, I am a fan of your videos. I hv an idea . Could I share with you. Could you give your email id.. pls thank you. Your videos are immersive and informative..
Regards,
Nilanjan ( Optometrist)
Could you upload Intel on cleaning lens damaged by defective antiglare and antiscratech coatings
Thank you for a very exhaustive video! I am a jeweler interested in learning eyewear making. Can you please recommend suppliers for acetate and the findings (hardware) used in this video
I wish I had a good solid list for you but sadly I don't. The router bit comes from France from cnc-acetate and it is very pricy. I'd drop Kevin a note about sourcing acetate. And last I knew he was still holding the school in Chicago. Jeweler background would be the perfect skill transfer.
Awesome vids! Where would I be able to purchase that V-bevel router/routing table?!
The router bit is one of the hardest things on the planet to find. Try cnc-acetate out of France. Crazy expensive and took months to get. Kevins router table is a high end wood working tool with a plastic top added. Mine was a basic Dremel. John
What is a good method to file down existing frames so that the acetate frame is less bulky? Should that be done on the perimeter of the frame or the interior? Basically, I love the shape of a pair I have but the frames are too thick and I would like the frames to be thinner.
Although I applaud you even thinking about attempting to do that I don't think your results would be very good. Probably better to shop around to find another frame you like better. BUT - if your mind is made up it would certainly be bringing the size down from the outside inward. You could maybe do some by (power) sander the rest by files. The acetone dip might bring it back to smooth/polished look. So, so, sorry but it sounds like a terrible idea. As Kevin mentions there are subtle design cues we don't notice but make all the difference in appearance. BUT - If you do it and it turns out great post it! John
How would you repair a metal hinge that has been thermally molded onto an acetate frame but now has developed play with the acetate frame due excessive adjustment.
Raw acetate beads and either a soldering iron or hot fingers tool. Or send to Tiffany at Northwest Frame Repair.
thank you for this 👍🤓
Hi sir, what about base curve? Can we bend the acetate arms accordingly?
I'm not sure what the temples would have to do with base curve but I suppose in theory you could build a frame around a high base curve. But you are limited to the reach and depth of the bezel routing bit. I think real matching will come with 3D printed frames AND lenses being done together. Some folks are working on just that.
what could be the weight of the acetate sheet before making the sheet and what is it's weight after complete frame? :o
Sorry - I recently sent all my raw sheets to Kevin. I'm not sure what it would tell you? The sheet sizes are inconsistent and even vary in thickness. Different patterns and colors would cause differences as well. Then every frame (especially since it is hand crafted) would be different depending on size, shape and how much material you sculpt off. Seems like on a production line you could have a pretty clear relationship. On a custom like this I don't see it? John
Where is the router bevel bit bought from and what’s it called?
cnc-acetate out of France. Very expensive and it took months to arrive. I tried everything else I could think of including having one made with no luck at all. Wish I had better news for you. John
Can someone point out what kind of table router and cutting bit is being used around the 18:00 mark?
Sorry but I've lost track of the brand. It is just a high-end woodworking router table that Kevin added the plastic top on. Sadly the router bit is very hard to come by. The source is cnc-acetate out of France. They are something like $115 USD and it took months to get it. I really tried to find another source including exploring having one made by a machine shop and got nowhere. John
Hi Guys, could let me know, pls. where to purchase acetate in this video? (manufacturer / country of origin)
Please see previous comments. Thanks
@@LaramyKOptical - You have to respect your viewers. If you don't want to answer a question, don't answer. But do not send me wasting time reading all the comments under the video. I read everything - and there is no answer, there is only meaningless verbiage. DISLIKE !
@@datikon7843 It's called cellulose acetate. You'll have to order them from China (Alibaba is a good place to start).
Dear @@John-mj1kk , thank You very much for your reply. But Alibaba is a huge market place. Could you let me know name of reliable manufacturer? Konstantin, Ukraine.
How would you go about inserting the metal rod inside the temple
In these hand crafted you don't. The metal core is something molded in place during processing in a huge factory. They certainly help keep things in alignment but are not 100% necessary.
Great video, thanks for posting. There is a template used to get the curvature of your bridge. You were an “H1”. What is the proper term for them and where could they be sourced?
Thanks in advance.
H I believe is from the French homme and 1 just a random assignment. Kevin picked up the drawings and template when in France at the frame makers school. His contact information is at the end of the video I believe. John
hi great video, i didn't quite catch what the name of the press that is being used to set the hinges was called ?
Clavalus. Or staking unit. Expensive but still available from Hilco & SIOS I believe.
Any guide on Acetone thay you used ? Thanks in advance.
That was straight out of a metal can from the hardware store. Stuff next to the paint thinner and turpentine.
Great video❤
Success in one practice, hooray 👏🥳. Good model and nice frame color choice, I like it. We will wait for your next video! ☺️
By the way, what is the price of a sheet of acetate?
I don't actually know. The few companies I hit up for raw sheet sent me some at no charge and Kevin brought several sheets with him. Raw acetate sheet is very difficult to find. You might start with Albert at McCray Optical out of Canada. www.mccrayoptical.com/index.php Even if the website doesn't show it give him a call. If that doesn't work let me know I have one other possible source. John
Awsome!! How come there is no radius in the frame? Would you select a flat lens for this frame?
It's a plastic frame so you could always create a little face form or reshape the eyewire a little. Funny now that you mentioned it the bevel router table is as fast as you can get so I suppose you would have to do it that way. Good catch. John
hi! what exactly is the name of the bit to fit the lenses? thanks!
It is a router bit. Only one I could find came from CNC-Acetate a company out of France. Very expensive and took months to arrive. I tried a bunch of other ways including having one made but no luck...
Thank you so much for the video...learned ton
Thanks for watching!
Hi
Thank you for an awesome video. Making my own glasses has been one of the things I want to try. I do have a few questions.
- at around 19 minutes, when you file out the center of the eye, and at 20:20 I still confuse how to you make the bridge curved up, you file the rest all the way down or ?
- also, how do you bind acetate, ie where you need to increase the thickness of the nose pad area. it can be glue and just file it together? when you really need thicker nose pad like for asian fit.
thank you very much.
Might be better to ask Kevin at counteyewear.com if I recall correctly he had some additional raw acetate in a split semi-circle that would be cut off and then using acetate you bond the nosepad build up to the frame - and then of course back to sculpting/sanding. It's more of a chemical melting together rather than gluing. John
@@LaramyKOptical Thank you, appreciate your reply.
thank you sir ,
0 Dislikes, first time I see that
Awsome, detailed account of craft. Where do you source the hinges?
SIOS Santinelli International Optical Supply.
Very nice 👌👍👌
what router was used to cut the lens groove?
One was a basic Dremel the other a higher end model. I think you can see/read the make in the video. The router isn't the challenge the router bit is. Took months and a very expensive order from a company in France. John
What do you think of the Eyemeasure iPhone app on in the Apple app store?
Sorry don't know anything about it. But just glancing at it if you are looking for a safer way to grab PDs then I'd say go for it! Can't be any more or less accurate than a CRP with a shield or a PD stick! I'd certainly double check heights on the first 10 or so to be sure. But what the heck it beats getting sick...
@@LaramyKOptical Thanks. Yes. Double-triple or so -checking numbers--good tip!!
I am interest your tools ,How can i buy ?
Tools for that project came from many different sources. The only thing almost impossible to get is the bevel bit which you source from a company in France. All the rest are a mixture of Amazon, McCray and Lowes. John
Thank you.
Why is acetate chosen for glasses frames? Very interesting video -- thanks to Kevin and John for the time and effort!
Relatively strong, lightweight and the perfect amount of flexibility to hold lenses in place. Inexpensive, wide range of colors, can insert metal so it holds its shape even better. Repairable, wide temperature range. Smooth finish/edges. Easily mass produced. SWAG would be it has been used for eyeglass frames for at least a 100 years or close to it. John
@@LaramyKOptical Thanks for your answer!
@@Graham_Wideman AND biodegradable! It's a natural product!
hi...where can i get that riveting press you are using? thanks!
SIOS, Santinelli International Optical Supply sells them I think Hilco may still have them also. Just be sitting down when you click on the price...
@@LaramyKOptical thank u so much!
What else can you make the frames with?
Anything! Well, almost anything... Imagination and physical properties of the material are your only limitations.
Fantastic video, sure fired my passion for handmade acetate eyewear! What is the name of the rotary tool bit for engraving the bevel inside the eye?
It's a very small router bit. The only company we have found that offers it is CNC-Acetate out of France. Very pricy and it took months to get here. I tried everything including trying to have one made here in the US but never did find one. John
@@LaramyKOptical Sounds like a niche market tool, that's for sure. I have a local machine shop that does specialty items such as this, but of course, for $$$ which I'm happy to spend money on for that amount of skill.
@@AwesomeBrandon2011 I don't have one here anymore. Track down Kevin Count or drop me an email through the opticianworks website and I'll connect you. Perhaps he can provide you with the dimensions. Or maybe send one to the company and they can duplicate them. Since it is cutting acetate I can't imagine it needs to be anything special for a hardness level. Might be a nice little money maker!
Which tool is used for finish inner and outer surface of frame??
filing - sanding - polishing is the order. Polishing is the final step and is done on a polishing wheel. As noted we took a short cut and did an acetate dip and skipped the full polishing cycle. We simply ran out of time.
Hello sir,
Can you help me to start eyewear business in India.
Can I get you WhatsApp or email id
What is the machine called that you used to sand down the frame? also the machine that you attached the router bit to
Router and router table. The black one was just cheap Dremel stuff the other high end woodworking stuff. I think Grizzly sells the high end woodworking one. John
Another question because I am currently using this video to make a custom frame. If I want to use/make nose pads from the acetate of the frame is there somewhere I can buy it or do I try cutting a piece of acetate from the extra I have from the frame?
@@ashleygreen3066 I'd check with Kevin. I know he had some clear material that he uses. We chose not to do pads to same time.
@@LaramyKOptical thank you. I'll check with Kevin
amazing!
What about wire frame glasses!
Trying but the only gal I know that could show us how lives as far away from here as you can and stay in lower 48. I'm not even 100% sure she has access to raw eyewire. It is on the list and actually something I've wanted to do forever. John
@@LaramyKOptical 🤓
27:52 is there a hand tool that can do the same job ?
I would call a clavalus a hand tool.
@@LaramyKOpticalive been looking on the internet but didnt find on the same name .! When u put the revit to hold the hinge in the frame and then u cut the revit pin then u need to make it rounded is there w tool for that to push it ? Rather than a pushing machine. 29:17 what is it called and where i can find it please
@@iszla2369 It is called a clavalus. If you google the term they come up. Hilco and SIOS both sell them. I suppose you could try using a nail set/punch or even a jewelers ball-peen hammer since you are peening. I can't imagine getting that far into a hand crafted piece of eyewear and not wanting to use the right tool for the job? I know I have a basic finishing nail set or punch that has a dimpled end to grab the head of the nail - I suppose it could do the job. You might want to ask Kevin or ask around on OptiBoard.
@@LaramyKOptical thanx sir i appreciate your help and time i just bought hinge and thr pins to fix my sunglass i have been around many store they told me its not fixable but you helped me alot
@@iszla2369 Ah OK! I'd keep looking around for an independent shop and/or some old-timer who could help. Sad you can't find anyone. You always have Tiffany at Northwest Frame Repair or trying the DIY method.
I want to try to make my own sunglasses and can you tell me more about the groove in the frame. What kind of tool did you use? Is it custom made toll or not? What is depth and angle and width of the groove? I want to make metal frane because i have cnc machine and right now i have a problem because i dont know how to make a groove to fit a lense into metal frame...
Metal frames are made with raw eyewire. You don't create the groove. You might find some through a European company like CentroStyle. The tool for doing acetate is shown in the video.
@@LaramyKOptical I cannot find the the grove cutter machine on CentroStyle website. Do you have any other advice? and where did you buy that kind of blade for the groove? thank you very much in advance
@@giovanninicora7283 The tool for cutting a bezel into the raw acetate is a router bit. I found one through a company in France cnc-acetate. It was very expensive.
@@LaramyKOptical ok thank you very much. one last question,where did you buy the "V-bit"? which brand produces it?
Best regards,
Giovanni
@@giovanninicora7283 www.cnc-acetate out of France.
Love this video. Where is this school?
The training center is in South Carolina. We are not offering this as a class - yet. If we got enough interest we just might. We would expect tuition to be around $2000.