D&T IS BACK IN STYLE!!! Phelia / White Orchid Phantom D&T (Death and Taxes MTG w Modern Horizons 3)

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  • Опубликовано: 14 янв 2025

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  • @charlessmith208
    @charlessmith208 6 месяцев назад +76

    MoM not hitting colorless to beat Maze of Ith or Karakas really makes me think Giver of Runes might have a spot as a one of for a recruiter target.

    • @gram1438
      @gram1438 6 месяцев назад +22

      with eldrazi also possibly showing up being devoid Giver could help there as well.

    • @adambillen5164
      @adambillen5164 6 месяцев назад +2

      If you're dedicating a recruiter to this, why not just get a phantom to take out the land itself and leave a better body behind that can attack?

    • @charlessmith208
      @charlessmith208 6 месяцев назад

      @@adambillen5164 Life from the Loam is a staple in the deck. Having a permanent answer seems like a more robust solution than a one off response. Of course you'll want to evaluate which silver bullet to tutor for base on whatever game state you happen to be in.

  • @TuberSauce
    @TuberSauce 6 месяцев назад +24

    the energy counter card you were looking for is "Wrath of the Skies"

  • @aem472
    @aem472 6 месяцев назад +22

    It was cool to see you back on a deck you are very comfortable with. You have had a clunky line or two in recent videos owing I assume to you playing with a bunch of new cards and it is a lot of fun to really see a deck go in your hands. Keep up the good work.
    Speaking of new cards and the new lines they enable, you had a few times this video where you missed Flickerwhisp-ing Witch-Blessed Meadow to get a Witch Enchanter ETB. R4 G2 around 45 min into the video in particular you could have freed up the aether vial to get access to Yorion and Solitude (and as a result disenchant a ton of other material) despite the lack of lands.

    • @CharlotteMimic
      @CharlotteMimic 6 месяцев назад +1

      I forgot you can Flickerwisp MDFCs!
      If you Flickerwisp a Shatterskull, the Hammer Pass, does it just stay exiled forever?

    • @olafthemoose9413
      @olafthemoose9413 6 месяцев назад +1

      Either that or it goes to the GY

    • @noguy5961
      @noguy5961 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@CharlotteMimicYes.
      307.4. Sorceries can’t enter the battlefield. If a sorcery would enter the battlefield, it remains in its previous zone instead.

  • @andreslozano3000
    @andreslozano3000 7 месяцев назад +16

    White Orchid Phantom is a beautiful Magic card. Keep up the good work, Phil!

  • @AaronUpdike
    @AaronUpdike 6 месяцев назад +5

    [12:51] If you hit the karakas instead of the maze you would be able to stick Phelia and start blinking the white orchid every turn, to then start killing all of the mazes. And if they copy the karakas then the land dies without giving them their basic.

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  6 месяцев назад +1

      Sooo your line leaves them with a Karakas to invalidate the Phelia that you describe as the reason for taking the line in the first place?

    • @AaronUpdike
      @AaronUpdike 6 месяцев назад

      @@ThrabenUniversity If they choose to copy it, yes. Since they can copy anything, we can't ever take them off any of the tech lands, but by hitting karakas we force them to legend rule their land and be down one. And they might not copy it, for whatever reason.

  • @embergeos
    @embergeos 6 месяцев назад +14

    Something I realized during the painter match that didn’t come up but might be good to have in the back of your mind is that flickerwisp can turn your witch enchanter land back into a creature, should the need for a disenchant arise.

    • @Bobbingtonn
      @Bobbingtonn 6 месяцев назад +1

      That is a use i didn't think of, i likes it

    • @TehFoamy
      @TehFoamy 6 месяцев назад +1

      I thought of that when he showed off the list at the beginning of the video, I figured he would do it at least once in this league

  • @ryanbrougham5098
    @ryanbrougham5098 6 месяцев назад +9

    Keep in mind Phelia can flicker permanants. So things like fable and wandering emperor end up as extra value.

    • @Korwinga
      @Korwinga 6 месяцев назад

      Oooh, what about Restoration of Eiganjo? The second chapter can even bring back Phelia, while helping ensure that you keep making land drops.

  • @dBradbury
    @dBradbury 6 месяцев назад +3

    Seeing Velgrim again lose spectacularly again in round two (20:53) brings me joy.

  • @TheChowderhead
    @TheChowderhead 6 месяцев назад +21

    WE'RE BACK BAYBEE LET'S GO D&T PHIL TIME BABY WOOOOO

  • @GGun1t
    @GGun1t 6 месяцев назад +7

    Glad to see DnT get buffed after MH3. One of my favorite decks ever

    • @samuelabreu4349
      @samuelabreu4349 6 месяцев назад

      i mean, the flying on this thing is a little bullshit. but i do second this, such a great magic card

  • @AaronRotenberg
    @AaronRotenberg 6 месяцев назад +1

    A fun line I was thinking about around 45 minutes in: if you Flickerwisped your own Witch-Blessed Meadow, it would come back as a Witch Enchanter and could destroy the opponent's Pithing Needle on ETB.

  • @REWASDFGHJ
    @REWASDFGHJ 6 месяцев назад +4

    At 45:37 there was a cool play of flickering your own Witch Meadow to take out the Pithing Needle to unlock the Vials.
    I don't think it would've changed the outcome of the game, as the pile of vials you got left you without action.

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  6 месяцев назад

      I think I probably need my own land in that game.

    • @thefloodedstrand
      @thefloodedstrand 6 месяцев назад

      @@ThrabenUniversity once the aether vial is free tho you had a nice onslaught of solitude, yorion reflickering stuff, and blockers for days gumming up the board with their creatures baring down.

    • @SindarinElealar
      @SindarinElealar 6 месяцев назад

      @@ThrabenUniversity Just Recruiter for Witch Enchanter and play it as a land? That seems like the play given your stream of Solitudes - it seemed that if you get 5th mana you'll just win (since you get full value off your Solitudes and Yorion). Even Welder isn't THAT scary if you can remove it after one-two rounds; Engine will do some grinding but they won't likely get combo.

  • @sashabdreadful
    @sashabdreadful 6 месяцев назад +3

    D&T back from the mines, heck yeah!

  • @שחרשגב-מ4ק
    @שחרשגב-מ4ק 6 месяцев назад

    note that the flickerwisp can actually flicker a land mdfc 45:34
    so if you wanted to kill the token that is a better way, just target the land that flips into a 2/2 that destroys the token / needle

  • @gabrote42
    @gabrote42 6 месяцев назад

    1:26 Also a way to have low oppcost enchantment removal, vs beans, energy field, and other stuff

  • @hoojchoons6168
    @hoojchoons6168 6 месяцев назад

    46:01 I think vial in solitude to hit welder and then play sanctifier to permanently block fury, then next turn yorion and block solitude was a better line?

    • @isalundstrom4778
      @isalundstrom4778 6 месяцев назад

      Pithing Needle is in play on Vial. That’s why he did what he did.
      But as some other people also noticed, Flickerwisp can target your own lands. So if he would’ve target his Witch enchanter (was on landslide) instead of an Urza token it would’ve entered the battlefield on the front side and he would’ve been able to blow up the pitching needle.

    • @hoojchoons6168
      @hoojchoons6168 6 месяцев назад

      @@isalundstrom4778 ahhh thanks…. That’s what I get for half paying attention while doing the dishes lol

  • @jennaeasley2277
    @jennaeasley2277 6 месяцев назад

    21:37 urza take the wheel

  • @joeldoolittle4517
    @joeldoolittle4517 6 месяцев назад

    One thing I’ve found really nice is playing one surveil land to fetch off flagstones. In a yorion deck the cost is lower and the upside is real

  • @develpala
    @develpala 6 месяцев назад

    flickerwisp targeting Land version of Witch Enchanter is also interesting tech

  • @54321eclipse12345
    @54321eclipse12345 6 месяцев назад

    I like that recruiter finds land now. It seems odd. I don't think, it has many cases, where you would do it. But I certainly like having the option.

  • @g8eo3
    @g8eo3 6 месяцев назад

    Seeing your opponent take a lot of game actions, then scoop was hilarious. I think Necrodominance is going to be better suited as a midrange fair card. We'll see though.

  • @data_abort
    @data_abort 6 месяцев назад

    22:19 I guess Tony just had a run on video (stream?) with enough hits to have a long win streak like 9. IIRC

  • @nicklittle8399
    @nicklittle8399 6 месяцев назад

    Also also, if we're running the Flagstones White Orchid package, I enjoy a pair of Ghost Quarters with it. 10 Wasteland effects seem to work very very well in the meta right now.

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  6 месяцев назад

      I like casting my WW card on turn 2 more than I like having GQ in my deck.

    • @nicklittle8399
      @nicklittle8399 6 месяцев назад

      @@ThrabenUniversity Fair enough :)

  • @suzettedarrow8739
    @suzettedarrow8739 6 месяцев назад

    I don't understand. @ 54:40, you should have paid 3 to play which enchanter??

    • @andrewwang7699
      @andrewwang7699 6 месяцев назад

      take 3 damage to play witch enchanter so it cant get got by thougtseize

    • @suzettedarrow8739
      @suzettedarrow8739 6 месяцев назад

      @@andrewwang7699 take 3 damage to play which enchanter? ;)

    • @flav_jja
      @flav_jja 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@suzettedarrow8739he paid 3 life to play that enchanter

    • @suzettedarrow8739
      @suzettedarrow8739 6 месяцев назад

      @@flav_jja i think bosh got lucky bc oppo woulda won if they had dismember D:

  • @sorek__
    @sorek__ 6 месяцев назад

    Wouldn't splash for black for bowmasters and some other quality cards make sense if we are 75 card deck anyway?

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  6 месяцев назад +1

      I think a black splash is a reasonable but not mandatory way to approach the deck.

  • @SanchoNil
    @SanchoNil 6 месяцев назад

    Glad to see you do some D&T content. Any thoughts on what to cut for Pre-War Formalwear?

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  6 месяцев назад +1

      This isn't a refined and tested decklist, so I can't speak with confidence.

  • @WhatAboutZoidberg
    @WhatAboutZoidberg 6 месяцев назад +1

    Phil on D&T, im watching.

  • @TalenLee
    @TalenLee 6 месяцев назад +4

    You took more time sideboarding for match 2 game 2 than you did playing game 1

  • @quincywilliams9860
    @quincywilliams9860 6 месяцев назад

    Can someone explain the Eiganjo Castle? I think I'm missing an interaction.

    • @_DG_
      @_DG_ 6 месяцев назад

      Prevent 2 damage for Phelia

    • @quincywilliams9860
      @quincywilliams9860 6 месяцев назад

      @@_DG_ So it's just to deal with Lightning Bolt, pretty much?

    • @_DG_
      @_DG_ 6 месяцев назад

      @@quincywilliams9860 Even on the Combat it's good

  • @Blueeyeddevil603
    @Blueeyeddevil603 6 месяцев назад

    " GG's... great deck.... lol. Brutal but truthful. 😂

  • @colinpatton1541
    @colinpatton1541 6 месяцев назад

    what are your thoughts on phelia and containment priest?

  • @bofaybaykweh
    @bofaybaykweh 6 месяцев назад

    No aven interruptor seems like a huge miss. Was that card not on the radar when you were brewing? Or was it specifically weighed out?

  • @dingdongs5208
    @dingdongs5208 6 месяцев назад

    Funishing Pire?

  • @justinjones671
    @justinjones671 6 месяцев назад

    Has anyone questioned if you should have a containment priest to recruiter for as with phelia she just exiles a creature evry turn.

  • @gabrielarchanjo6028
    @gabrielarchanjo6028 6 месяцев назад

    Is Thalia the reason this deck has faerie macabre instead of surgical extraction ?

  • @MrSirTacoman
    @MrSirTacoman 6 месяцев назад

    I am very surprised to not see any guide of souls or ocelot pride at 1. I do agree that giver seems like it might have more merit than mom here too. Also how would you feel about replacing the one of eiganjo with an emeria to hit some incidental recursion if a game goes long?

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  6 месяцев назад

      Emeria enters tapped, and is thus not playable given that its upside would almost never happen.

  • @Epitaph-wz7ri
    @Epitaph-wz7ri 6 месяцев назад

    game one I think you missed lethal by not flickering marit lage with phelia

  • @odoylerules1435
    @odoylerules1435 6 месяцев назад

    I found a cool green/white 2 card combo from the new set! draw 1-4 cards a turn every turn with this creature combo. Cards for combo are, Evolution witness (New card), Luminarch Aspirant, Ornery tumblewag/ or siege veteran in play. Any fetch lands or Mishras bauble good in gy. Play luminarch then play evo witness get back fetch, bauble, creature every turn on trigger. Is it good. Not really, but it is fun. Can be game winning if not answered. Its kind of like lurris combo but you need 2 creatures in play instead of just Lurris. However its anything in gy so it gets lands and other things dont care about cmc either. Combo is Witness lets you get stuff from GY to hand every turn mostly being fetch or bauble or creature depending on what you want to get back. I played it in azban taxes hatenbears shell, it was playable and good at times. Cards needed in deck to play this combo are, 4 evolution witness, 4 luminarch aspirant, 4 ornery tumblewag/ or 4 siege veteran any fetchlands, baubles, creatures, or anything you can get back from gy. Does goes infinite with wasteland if played in a legacy deck, i should say can be a "wasteland lock" 1 per turn or more.

  • @QueefNefarious
    @QueefNefarious 6 месяцев назад

    Wouldnt it be better to play giver of runes since since it can give pro colorless?

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  6 месяцев назад

      The cards do different things despite being very similar.

  • @rusty8785
    @rusty8785 6 месяцев назад

    Maybe horizon lands if we're looking for white producing utility? Eiganjo castle is a card I guess

  • @derekcline950
    @derekcline950 6 месяцев назад

    Did you use my dealers choice on D&T? I don't think that that technically counts as a dealers choice if it's something I'd also ask for haha

  • @RadioRez
    @RadioRez 6 месяцев назад +2

    I'm excited to see this deck with Tax Collector from Assassins creed

  • @Syaska
    @Syaska 6 месяцев назад

    Did you miss Rishadan Port?

  • @mangodude6790
    @mangodude6790 7 месяцев назад +3

    There's no audio in this video.
    Edit: There was audio. Another viewer told me what was likely wrong, I watched the video too early.

    • @amazingpeptobismol
      @amazingpeptobismol 7 месяцев назад

      Audio ok on my end

    • @mangodude6790
      @mangodude6790 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@amazingpeptobismol Weird, i thought it must be the video because my audio was working ok other youtube videos and conitnued to not work on this video. I can hear the audio now though. I wonder what happened.

    • @christopherlee9026
      @christopherlee9026 7 месяцев назад +4

      ​@mangodude6790 Video loads on YT videos first, so a lot of the time, if you get in to a video fast enough the video might not have audio until you reload.

    • @mangodude6790
      @mangodude6790 7 месяцев назад +5

      ​@@christopherlee9026That makes sense. It was 33 seconds after upload.

    • @ThrabenUniversity
      @ThrabenUniversity  7 месяцев назад +5

      WILD

  • @raoulselten9480
    @raoulselten9480 6 месяцев назад

    i think we threw round 4 game 1. when flickerwisp blinked meadow and in the end step it came back as witchmeadow enchanter, we ought of targeted pithing needle. then vial becomes unlocked to use with solitude and yorion. and have a 2/2 on board that could be blinked by yorion to kill the construct later. instead we were hoping for a 5th land and we had a useless vial on 5

  • @claytonleal7947
    @claytonleal7947 6 месяцев назад

    feel like taking out karakas in game one would have sped that up a fair bit. being able to attack with phelia and bounce the LD creature would have gotten you out from under the maze's and locked them out of slow rolling the combo.

  • @parkerpope1163
    @parkerpope1163 6 месяцев назад +1

    I have never clicked faster

  • @adambillen5164
    @adambillen5164 6 месяцев назад +1

    DNT OFF DEALERS CHOICE BABY LETS GO PHILLY IS BACK. MONO WHITE BABY. BASIC PLAINS = BROKEN. YORION FOR LIFE BABY.

  • @Korwinga
    @Korwinga 6 месяцев назад +3

    Witch Enchanter? Dis-Enchanter.

    • @TehFoamy
      @TehFoamy 6 месяцев назад

      Yep, that’s the reason why R&D called it Witch Enchanter in the first place

  • @heepajunk
    @heepajunk 6 месяцев назад

    ARE WE BACK?

  • @chriscobble48
    @chriscobble48 6 месяцев назад +2

    Can't wait for everyone to start running 4x gut shot in the sideboard for all of these greedy necrodominance players that go to 1 life on turn 1. 😂

  • @Karl_Smink
    @Karl_Smink 6 месяцев назад +1

    I can, and will, continue to complain about the current Necro decks.
    I don't care if the deck has a high failrate.
    My opponent going full send and scooping on T1 before I play a card is not fun. I don't care that I won. I want to play magic.

  • @sethchambers4382
    @sethchambers4382 6 месяцев назад

    I wasn't impressed by Bryans Necrodominance video from the other day. Love the new DnT pieces, tho. Great vid!

  • @italostanley2608
    @italostanley2608 7 месяцев назад +1

    Dnt!!!

  • @TheQueerLeaf
    @TheQueerLeaf 6 месяцев назад

    Nice

  • @hoojchoons6168
    @hoojchoons6168 6 месяцев назад

    In the painter match you kept saying that painter could crew hearse which is simply not true. Hearse is crew 2….. what kind of ancient tomb gamer are you :😂

  • @newtonrocha6615
    @newtonrocha6615 6 месяцев назад

    On game 1 probably would be better to destroy karakas to drop the dog and keep destroying lands every turn

  • @Ox5f3759df
    @Ox5f3759df 6 месяцев назад

    Mom Wick

  • @FrelanceEQ
    @FrelanceEQ 6 месяцев назад

    Aether Vial vs Mox Diamond? nearly no 1drops, Vial just gets you a second play on turn3, vs MoxDiamond potentially putting hatebears/sinkhole turn **1**

  • @joshdavis3743
    @joshdavis3743 6 месяцев назад

    Phil after 3 matches :), Phil after 5 matches :/ meh.

  • @zHypnos1944
    @zHypnos1944 6 месяцев назад +2

    First

  • @nicklittle8399
    @nicklittle8399 6 месяцев назад

    I love the new D&T build but I absolutely hate Phelia in it XD. I've been testing it out myself, but it never really feels like it does anything that is actually impactful. I feel like its resto angel.. But not quite resto angel.

  • @PVDH_magic
    @PVDH_magic 6 месяцев назад

    This deck is bullcrap.
    Sincerely, an Eldrazi player who got all of their lands destroyed and Endless Ones blinked.

  • @tokertalk9648
    @tokertalk9648 6 месяцев назад

    The necrodominance decks look stupid fun! I'm surprised somebody hasn't shoved a copy or 2 of Fateful Showdown in necrodominance decks. Seems like a better beseech target than tendrils!

  • @NavaNou
    @NavaNou 6 месяцев назад

    Necro.dec is just oops circa RTR. Everybody’s gonna be scared, and it’s gonna be a good deck, and force of will exists

    • @NavaNou
      @NavaNou 6 месяцев назад

      Pls bring back probe and misstep /s /terror /pleasedontactually