Is Chess a waste of money?

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  • Опубликовано: 28 янв 2025

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  • @xBlze
    @xBlze Год назад +616

    Thank you Gotham, today my brother and me (both beginners of chess) exited our comfort zone and joined a local chess club meeting nice new people, really excited where this road will take me ✌️

  • @j_iulian
    @j_iulian Год назад +199

    "I don't fear the man who practiced 10,000 openings once, I fear the man who practiced a opening 10,000 times" - GothamChess

    • @rainboltfiend
      @rainboltfiend Год назад +11

      yes it's his now 100 years from now we gonna quote him

    • @carloshoz
      @carloshoz Год назад +10

      That is Bruce Lee. "I don't fear the man who practiced 1000 techniques once. I fear the one who practiced 1 technique 1000 times"

    • @rainboltfiend
      @rainboltfiend Год назад +2

      @@carloshoz yup

    • @Oreki-y1v
      @Oreki-y1v 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@rainboltfiend yup I am you it my second id

    • @Nobodyie
      @Nobodyie 6 месяцев назад

      Until you get the black pieces

  • @Mati-zc2ym
    @Mati-zc2ym Год назад +822

    If you buy a chessly course and never study then no

    • @UmniChrenof
      @UmniChrenof Год назад +8

      Why is your comment is liked but mine is not?

    • @smileorgobyebye6330
      @smileorgobyebye6330 Год назад +60

      ​@@UmniChrenof He paid levy

    • @Checkmate_Edits
      @Checkmate_Edits Год назад +7

      ​​@@UmniChrenof probably got shadow deleted, or no one found it funny, or it doesn't contain "fail"

    • @lezty
      @lezty Год назад

      What I'm shocked about is Gym for $10? Over here the minimum is 100 to $200

    • @smileorgobyebye6330
      @smileorgobyebye6330 Год назад

      @@lezty depends on the gym dude
      If you want a barbell with a few weights... 10 dollars a month
      If you need a GYM gym then that'll be expensive

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 Год назад +469

    Here’s the thing.
    Nobody teaches the Reti Gambit.
    So nobody has any idea what to do when I play the Reti Gambit.
    Free wins, in terms of both effort and cost.

    • @timmacdonald7120
      @timmacdonald7120 Год назад +33

      The Reti is nice but I stopped playing lines that can transpose into the English. I used to play the English a lot but I simply didn't like how Black can just chill once the opening is done. Not enough flair for me. I like drama

    • @dymoster
      @dymoster Год назад +7

      Reti gambit op

    • @mushroom_pi
      @mushroom_pi Год назад +3

      just do the cow opening, it got tyler1 a bunch of rating :)

    • @EnigmaChess
      @EnigmaChess Год назад +1

      Simon Williams teaches it

    • @descendency
      @descendency Год назад +4

      This works until you start to see players that don't panic and players that also play offbeat openings. You can learn a lot of offbeat openings that will scare/shock players in the

  • @jefftaylor1186
    @jefftaylor1186 Год назад +24

    The free courses on Chessable/chessly etc are a great starting point and then you can probably learn the rest on your own from there. That’s basically how I re-learned my repertoire after not playing for 17 years.

  • @איתןשי
    @איתןשי Год назад +58

    One more thing I would add - at any level below around 1500 DO NOT get a course that will time out...
    Casual players like us will forget the lessons and neet repeat reminding

    • @TheLucidDreamer12
      @TheLucidDreamer12 Год назад +12

      All the free resources are enough to get to ~2000 level, but it's not enough to be anything past that

    • @crusaderACR
      @crusaderACR Год назад +4

      ​@@TheLucidDreamer12 Where can I find those free resources?

    • @tengu5628
      @tengu5628 Год назад

      ​​@@crusaderACRyoutube, lichess, chessable(not entirely free but there are good free things there), aim chess and the internet in general

    • @riccardozanoni2531
      @riccardozanoni2531 Год назад

      @@crusaderACR you can find plenty of books for free on "internet archive", they're old but still very good. My favorite is "the complete manual of positional chess", if you like russian-style positional play. Also, youtube videos by many gms are really useful. I find Irina Krush's videos to be very informative. I don't know about 2000 level, but i got to roughly 1800 in 3 years by myself, so it might be doable.

    • @RaghavendraPhulari-cb5ov
      @RaghavendraPhulari-cb5ov Год назад +2

      Commenting here for those free resources

  • @True_path2007
    @True_path2007 Год назад +423

    Gotham never fails to include chess in his videos

    • @Checkmate_Edits
      @Checkmate_Edits Год назад +29

      Chess never fails to include gotham in its videos.

    • @CristichiEX
      @CristichiEX Год назад +12

      Gotham never fails to include Levy in his videos

    • @emberheat990
      @emberheat990 Год назад +7

      When he talks about chess in his videos it's so much better than when he talks about chess.

    • @keyR3dz
      @keyR3dz Год назад +1

      @@emberheat990💀 this actually made me spit out my drink

    • @emberheat990
      @emberheat990 Год назад +1

      @@keyR3dz always glad to help out :)

  • @supersusstudios4936
    @supersusstudios4936 Год назад +24

    Funny enough i find great success playing an opening over and over again and analyse it evertime with stockfish. And i gained like 400 points last year

  • @micaharblaster2336
    @micaharblaster2336 Год назад +158

    That 10$ chess board that was both chess and checkers your grandma bought you says otherwise. 😂

    • @justsomerandomnesss604
      @justsomerandomnesss604 Год назад +3

      Ours even has Morris (Cowboy Checkers?) on the back

    • @emberheat990
      @emberheat990 Год назад

      ahh... good memories!

    • @zTeaTheCoffee
      @zTeaTheCoffee Год назад +1

      I got one that was like 6 games in one. I think it had like backgammon and stuff on the back as well, it was crazy

  • @RocketLancer14
    @RocketLancer14 Год назад +44

    me watching this video knowing full well that i will never spend money on chess:
    Interesting 🤔

  • @debrascott8775
    @debrascott8775 Год назад +17

    My absolute newbie take: bought 2 courses form Levy one for white and one for black. Only needed the first couple chapters to increase my opening confidence because at my lowly rating it's mostly random shit from the other side of the board.

  • @RCPlanes59
    @RCPlanes59 Год назад +53

    Props to Levy for having the restraint to not cover the Magnus/Hans game today (what little of it there was)

    • @martinsauer5311
      @martinsauer5311 Год назад

      That didn’t age well

    • @RCPlanes59
      @RCPlanes59 Год назад +1

      @@martinsauer5311 I figured it would only be a matter of time lol

  • @FloatingSunfish
    @FloatingSunfish Год назад +14

    One of the most genuine videos I've seen in a while!
    This is why he's the internet's chess teacher.

  • @joshcleminson
    @joshcleminson Год назад +5

    Here's a tip.... I bought the Caro-Kann course... (Great content, helped me get to the next level).... Instead of playing people online, I found the bots that will generally play into the different versions of the Caro and used them as trainers get get a firm grasp on getting to the variation setups, BUT ALSO figure out the ideas of those positions and how to play them in the middle game...

  • @MrKULVIS
    @MrKULVIS Год назад +8

    Majority of the information is out there for free. What you pay for is an easier way to access it. Try going old fashioned and get a library card. Tons of good books for no cost at the ol library.

    • @riccardozanoni2531
      @riccardozanoni2531 Год назад

      there's also internet archive for free old books. Some really good ones are in there.

  • @scot_3
    @scot_3 Год назад +8

    This was helpful! I was learning chess in the 90's before there was "online" anything. Then we started having kids. Now that the last kid is almost out of the house, I am getting the itch to revisit the game. Your thoughts were useful in how to approach the study and vast material available. Thank you, sir!

  • @SynthD
    @SynthD Год назад +19

    Levi never fails to convince us that his courses are a waste of money.

  • @plumber1337
    @plumber1337 Год назад +5

    Nothing is "free", if it doesn't cost energy it costs time.

  • @Valkyriesrevenge
    @Valkyriesrevenge Год назад +1

    Don't often comment but really love this style of video, not only teaching you via courses but how to use courses as well. More of this content please!
    Keep up the great work!

  • @visionnzgaming1982
    @visionnzgaming1982 Год назад +2

    3minute mark is HUGE! Big fan of that POV Gotham, BIG FAN

  • @varshneyaagarwal2160
    @varshneyaagarwal2160 11 месяцев назад

    A lot of learnings in one video, apart from the ones already mentioned:
    1) Determine if you can afford it (it's worth it or not in terms of balancing your time and money etc)
    2) To learn something new, learn qualitatively, methodically, and applicable to our current status to improve and specialize in what you face the most instead of bulldozing everything and retaining nothing.
    3) Adapt your learnings with your old successes to build upon knowledge (Combining Dutch with Modern was a really cool idea)
    Love the insightful content to guide us plebians honestly!

  • @jennysaucerman3047
    @jennysaucerman3047 Год назад +2

    I bought the end game course and, in hindsight, I think I would've been better off buying the Caro Kann course 😅 But I got it on sale and don't regret supporting your business, and I'm still able to apply some of the concepts at my level.
    I once read that people buy hobby things because they like the idea of who they'll be more than what would actually be useful to them, and I think that's very applicable here.
    I enjoyed this video a lot! Learning how to study is a skill itself. I'd enjoy more videos like these

  • @bobbynygaardchrisitansen6874
    @bobbynygaardchrisitansen6874 Год назад +1

    opening theory is a study why grandmasters can up with the best way to start the game at gm level. after opening play players play at their level. My point is people should study tactics and strategy to get better.

  • @4RILDIGITAL
    @4RILDIGITAL Год назад

    It's brilliant to ensure learning for complete enjoyment and improvement rather than guaranteeing results based solely on monetary investment in a course. Patience and perseverance always hold the key. Excellent work addressing different financial situations and emphasising the importance of spending within one's limits.

  • @rainboltfiend
    @rainboltfiend Год назад +12

    you definetely don't need to it's all explained freely on everywhere essentially

    • @LucifersLandLord
      @LucifersLandLord Год назад +2

      Any links or a push in the right direction?

    • @rainboltfiend
      @rainboltfiend Год назад +1

      @@LucifersLandLord channel wise I know hanging pawns has great recommendations but you need specifics for example what course would you buy right now if you were gonna buy, then write that course on youtube check out some playlists I bet you will learn a lot from that content

    • @rainboltfiend
      @rainboltfiend Год назад +1

      cuz even when you buy a course it still takes effort this one takes too

    • @samuellinn
      @samuellinn 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@rainboltfiend yeah okay but any push in the right direction or links to the free resources?

  • @laksthegamer1185
    @laksthegamer1185 Год назад +1

    Thank you for having a different type of chess content! No offense to your recap videos - of course - but I also love it when you do these types of videos.

  • @yakeemhudson
    @yakeemhudson Год назад +9

    Spending $240 to double chess diamond membership isn't a waist of money

  • @estiya2809
    @estiya2809 Год назад +4

    Really good video ! Some of your videos are really the example of the " I wish someone has made a video on it " comment. I hope you treat more key subjects like this in the future.
    I am more in the "free material" mindset but your analysis on the subject was very accurate and educational as always !

  • @_the_Nochad
    @_the_Nochad Год назад +11

    What would chess be without gotham, truly nice of him to always find a way to include it in his videos

  • @felixhinz3804
    @felixhinz3804 Год назад +2

    Without a course is like reinventing the wheel, its maybe not as good as the others but I know every screw in person

  • @thecalculatedcreativecoder1428
    @thecalculatedcreativecoder1428 Год назад +11

    Levy never fails to make me spend my money wisely

  • @loganbuster6428
    @loganbuster6428 Год назад +1

    Very good video. I got your intermediate chess course recently. Thank you for encouraging my love for Chess

  • @shaunbutler238
    @shaunbutler238 Год назад +3

    I bought Levy's book. Money well spent.

  • @dysprosiumdead5078
    @dysprosiumdead5078 Год назад +4

    levy never fails to spend my money

  • @joycec1883
    @joycec1883 Год назад

    This is one of the best videos I’ve seen in a while!! Now I know how to study the courses I bought. Thanks Gotham!!!

  • @ColinTimmins
    @ColinTimmins Год назад

    This was an awesome video. Good advice that can be applied to many parts of one’s life and decisions they make. Lessons such as this needs to be taught, and learnt.

  • @DigiRex
    @DigiRex Год назад +5

    Yeah, the Bruce Lee quote is amazing, it goes "I don't fear a man that knows ten thousand ways how to punch, I fear a man that knows only one way to punch, but he's trained that one way ten thousand times", it's so true👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻

  • @jawadbhatti3373
    @jawadbhatti3373 Год назад +4

    i spend my money on my cricket, football if required snooker even, crickets my passion chess is my time pass, so different for different ppl.....a pro chess player will spend his money

  • @brunorebecchi
    @brunorebecchi Год назад +1

    POV: nobody buys your courses anymore💀

  • @andrearossi1447
    @andrearossi1447 Год назад +1

    Wait, 10 bucks a month for the gym is crazy cheap

  • @luisxavier8316
    @luisxavier8316 Год назад

    Thanks, Gotham, for laying this in such a clear and helpful manner. Well done. Also just to say that I love your all videos sharing great games and event recaps but other chess-related content and How-to-win, How-to-lose series, I really enjoy the most. Thank you!!! Cheers!

  • @tfrazza
    @tfrazza Год назад

    I bought your d4 and Caro courses 2 years ago when I was 700. I now use your e4, QGD and Caro courses and I’m 1700. They were easily some of the best investments I ever made

  • @jeffreyperdue1606
    @jeffreyperdue1606 Год назад +5

    Thanks for the analysis and the feedback! Panov variation is on deck tonight lol

  • @custa73burner
    @custa73burner Год назад +7

    Yes please, more of this, there is crucially relevant information about how to study, to improve our own chess. We all need to learn how to recognise and study, that which will improve the player we are now.

  • @sebastianplummer2941
    @sebastianplummer2941 Год назад +1

    No one:
    Freddie Mercury: 1:51

  • @cosmarigabriel65
    @cosmarigabriel65 Год назад

    Thank you, Gotham Chess. Thanks to you, I've gone from 400 to 1700 in a year and a half, and I've also won the Hessian School Chess Championship with the team I founded. All of this was achieved without buying anything, as I, being a student, cannot afford it.

  • @soson001
    @soson001 Год назад +2

    "Mildly biased". That is extremely inaccurate.

  • @zuhairqureshi8635
    @zuhairqureshi8635 Год назад +7

    I sail the seas for anything digital

    • @vinesthemonkey
      @vinesthemonkey 11 месяцев назад

      yeah chessly is available on those sites lol

  • @thesecret6019
    @thesecret6019 Год назад

    This is not just applicable to chess courses but it applies to all of the courses that you buy online

  • @knowledgeandgamesofaadvikh568
    @knowledgeandgamesofaadvikh568 Год назад

    We just want gotham being roasted by levy and levy being roasted by gotham

  • @erikruwalder97
    @erikruwalder97 Год назад

    How very true!! Do not start with mountain climbing, first learn to walk on a flat surface. I would say join a local club. Make it something social. Exchange ideas. I recently played a guy 96 years old (I am 61). It was a tough match, and great fun! Which other hobby can you do for 90+ years.

  • @IamGroot455
    @IamGroot455 Год назад +1

    today i played 2 brilliant moves in one single game . it was a disaster moment for me . i want you to make a shorts on it as i see your all videos. please tell me how i can share that with you. i am very excited

  • @FlashAm
    @FlashAm Год назад

    Gotham chess became a financial advisor. Props to Levy!

  • @Suy..
    @Suy.. Год назад +1

    Chess is p2w. The grinding is just too much for me.

  • @AntonLukas
    @AntonLukas Год назад

    Fantastic video, a lot of people need to see this

  • @arvaspn
    @arvaspn Год назад

    Levy never fails to not include Magnus even if the topic of the video isn't about Magnus

  • @belvus9574
    @belvus9574 Год назад

    I want to watch videos of YOU playing chess. Totally off topic from this video but still I really wanted to say that. Like your appeal is definitely in your review of chess and in your charm, but also the aspect of watching you grow as a chess master.

    • @CatSurfer
      @CatSurfer Год назад +2

      He has a whole channel where he does that. Gotham Games

  • @raptorialmage
    @raptorialmage Год назад +1

    Guys plot twist the Ian guy he talks about is actually nepo

  • @AliAmarian
    @AliAmarian Год назад +1

    if we don't spend money on our hobbies our lives would be just surviving . we should just spend wisely

  • @helium999_
    @helium999_ Год назад +1

    or just use the lichess study feature

  • @alexwebb7676
    @alexwebb7676 Год назад

    This is an interesting video to me - I've only purchased one course, the Caro-Kann course, because after trying a number of Black openings against e4 it was a hole in my repertoire I just couldn't seem to patch. I've had extremely good success, especially with the recommended Tartakower lines, but overall I wouldn't say my play has changed that much. I've gained a little rating by patching up the weakness, and now I'm working on other parts of my play.
    The side-benefit I didn't expect was that I could transition the ideas of the Caro to other openings - now I transpose most London games into Caro games, and feel much more comfortable. But that's not an idea from the course, it's just one that I stumbled on later. And it only works because I put the requisite effort into learning Caro lines so that I get that comfort in the first place.
    I'm generally very averse to spending money unless I know it's a good idea. In this case it worked out, and I've followed that up by... not buying any other courses for years. Because I don't see them meeting a need.

  • @omaryahya4016
    @omaryahya4016 Год назад +6

    Levy never fails to promote his courses.

  • @jamesbungert3155
    @jamesbungert3155 Год назад

    There's also the issue of being able to devote the amount of time required to take advantage of the thing you buy.

  • @lettersANnumbersonly
    @lettersANnumbersonly Год назад

    10/10 very much appreciated Gotham!

  • @jaiveersingh3415
    @jaiveersingh3415 Год назад +8

    Just here to mark my attendance. Been a year since I've been watching you Levy. You've helped me a lot in chess and also, to numb myself from anxiety. I hope you see this and realize the impact you've had on a random Indian guy. (PS give a heart to acknowledge my existence)

  • @Superpoprock50
    @Superpoprock50 Год назад +1

    Just the video I needed today, thanks!

  • @hoppingturtles
    @hoppingturtles Год назад

    pretty good and insightful vid actually

  • @mukasadulex2955
    @mukasadulex2955 Год назад +1

    Levy posts the video we need not want but we always watch anyway. Love the channel.

  • @wakethemountain9467
    @wakethemountain9467 Год назад +15

    That was the longest commercial I’ve ever seen on RUclips

  • @luizrizola
    @luizrizola Год назад

    Awesome video!!!
    I was thinking about buying some courses, but I am reavaluating things!!
    That being said, I just bought your book and started from there.
    From Brazil, didn't wait for the Portuguese version :)

  • @-_--pb7ti
    @-_--pb7ti Год назад

    Simple answer: no.
    You should be able to look at a chess board, learn how all the pieces move and then find every best possible move without the need of courses.
    For those of us (me) who are still 500 Elo, I would say looking at free tutorials is probably the best. Imo.

  • @rinpuiilal5555
    @rinpuiilal5555 Год назад

    Levy never fails to become megamind

  • @KiNG-xu5ne
    @KiNG-xu5ne Год назад +11

    0:12 Yes *-stockfish-*

  • @RyanGeorgopoulos
    @RyanGeorgopoulos Год назад

    I fear not the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times, but the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once.

  • @puneetgarg8886
    @puneetgarg8886 Год назад +1

    I'm not seeing any GMs who study through chess courses and making big money

  • @elizabeth4689
    @elizabeth4689 11 месяцев назад

    hey levy I just did the sample of your caro kann course and beat a 1000 elo player for the first time, great stuff

  • @LesPaul1482
    @LesPaul1482 Год назад

    Levy never fails to promote Levy

  • @LightSquares
    @LightSquares Год назад

    Take a step back, people spend money on all kinds of stuff that has short term value e.g. holidays, cars, experiences. Why not spend money on chess? Add knowledge to your mind, something which can never be taken away from you.

  • @blockchainbaboon7617
    @blockchainbaboon7617 11 месяцев назад

    If Levy starts playing pickleball I would be so happy

  • @oguzhanzaferoglu992
    @oguzhanzaferoglu992 Год назад +2

    Everything that makes you think is a plus. Plus is not a negatif thing its not a lost.Waste is a lost,so Chess is not a waste of anything.

  • @M-H433
    @M-H433 Год назад

    If you enjoy the sport,and love to compete,of course money needs to be spent on fees........travel etc,it's a great thing my stepson competes just about every weekend and once a week,a great family environment, I love it.

  • @RaistlinJEC2429
    @RaistlinJEC2429 Год назад

    I bought your book and I like it, thanks GothamChess, mostly because you entertain me and I want to support you.

  • @haleymartin9342
    @haleymartin9342 Год назад

    I find that I am most successful with 1 course for white (Keep it Simple d4), 1 course for black (KIS), and then a tactics book (right now: Art of Attack). Just throwing it out there in case others would find it useful

  • @Checkmate_Edits
    @Checkmate_Edits Год назад +6

    Obviously if chess is your hobby, you can feel happy spending money on it all you want, entering competitions is great, spending money on learning resources is also very good, but it depends on the quality of a course for example, or how hard you work.

  • @amrsaed3149
    @amrsaed3149 Год назад

    Iam 1800 rapid without spending any money and still growing my Elo by just watching your videos, analysing games, watching free chess courses and playing a lot :)

  • @rammachine
    @rammachine Год назад +1

    Bro I reached 1500 rating just by seeing your videos😂
    Thanks for the content you make ❤

  • @tazeking8033
    @tazeking8033 Год назад +4

    I've bought both your e6b6 course and your middle game course.
    I've gone from losing against my brother too quickly. To now holding my own and making him try really hard to beat me.
    Thanks mate for the courses! 😁👍

  • @chadhahn6511
    @chadhahn6511 Год назад

    love your stuff. but i disagree with the don't buy them all at one time. if your plains are to learn them all. save the money. just don't study them all at one time. As you said start with one learn it very well, than add to it with another one. There is never any thing wrong with saving money.... now if you just don't want to give discounts, that's totally up to you, maybe it makes you feel like your loosing out on potential income. I can understand that too. Sorry its just they way I see things. Keep up the great work.

  • @Tomato_M7116
    @Tomato_M7116 Год назад

    Thank you very much Gotham! But I think that it would be better if you don't just make courses for beginners and you start to do courses for people around 2500-2600 elo. Thanks anyway!

  • @tricksterx98
    @tricksterx98 Год назад +8

    I recently paid someone to train me at Pokémon. I'm completely amazed of how much you sense your lack of knowledge when you talk to such good players

    • @Viroh
      @Viroh Год назад +1

      Woah

  • @thoroldtallsworth
    @thoroldtallsworth Год назад

    I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced 1 kick 10,000 times - BruceLee (be water my friend)

  • @brunogm6096
    @brunogm6096 Год назад

    Gotham's nose never fails to itch

  • @Checkmate_Edits
    @Checkmate_Edits Год назад +10

    Long story short: Yes, but not if you spend it on Chessly.

  • @Kendude99
    @Kendude99 Год назад

    me watching this knowing damn well i can't afford coffee

  • @zyto7904
    @zyto7904 Год назад +2

    You don't need anything past the free sample of E4 course to get to 1200

  • @rainboltfiend
    @rainboltfiend Год назад +3

    I think you could buy like 1 course a year that'd be worth it cuz none of us play 12 hours a day

  • @NeilBeaumont-v8q
    @NeilBeaumont-v8q Год назад +2

    Interested to hear his views on hiring a coach

  • @JohnDoe362
    @JohnDoe362 Год назад

    "I've never made a video like this" That's why i clicked Levy, it wasn't an obnoxious thumbnail or a title with 15 exclamation marks

  • @Roshkggeh
    @Roshkggeh Год назад

    In my opinion, you can get a lot of free knowledge online. I got 1500 elo and I didn't paid a penny. But I think once you got around this rating, you can choose to continue chess or not. If you want to continue and you're serious about it, you can spend some money for studying chess.

  • @ElmerPelcher
    @ElmerPelcher Год назад

    For chess players at lower levels, one never knows how the other player is going to respond to some established opening. For top flight players like Gotham, sure. But for an ordinary, recreational player all of this theory may be interesting and give some ideas, but actually trying to execute it probably isn't going to be able to be done.