The Truth About Game Review
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Personally, I find that the game review feature is accurate when it says I played well and inaccurate when it says I played poorly.
'tis funny. Anyway, I hope Levi does do this again.
Can you edit to say I played like booty instead of poorly
@@talalmahmoud1603bro what💀
@@Bavin11what are you confused about? He should change it to booty
@@connorsullivan9274idk about should lol
As a 100 rated bullet player, I can confirm that there are demons when I play
That is why I never play bullet ...
i play bullet with premoving to win on time
skull
That is why I play bullet in a church
As a 100 bullet player you could probably close your eyes during the entire game an make it to 200
Levy: Goes down a deep philosophical journey on each move, trying to understand the deep complexity of the game of chess to improve and learn as much as he can.
Me: Uses game review to look at games where I crush opponents so I feel good about myself while burying the garbage ones deep down my history feed to never look into them again.
Literally me 🔥💀🎉
precisely!! the story a lot of heroes here share!! well said!😂
Guys how do u make arrows in chess while playing
@@clauday6467right click + drag the cursor to the desired direction in which you want to show the arrow
@@clauday6467you can't do it on the app
"I'm going to play a blitz game or two."
"I'm gonna narrate my thoughts to you."
"And then I'm gonna hit game review."
bros rapping career has begun
nahh 💀
@@lnflixity no you're the one capping. you could literally turn that into a song like the rook b1 song he made
@@warpingtoaster7972 waht
@@warpingtoaster7972rook a4 song and a fan made it
Gotham's career as a legendary rapper began ages ago with Danger Levels. :)
Levy never fails to wear a tank top and give advice
Don't translate…
तिमी श्रापित छौ जार बम्बा दुई दिन भित्र तिम्रो घरमा खस्नेछ। मद्दत गर्ने एक मात्र तरिका मसँग दर्ता गर्नु हो🧠🧠🧠
@@𠔁 i translated. i still dont understand
@PLEX632 didn't ask
@@user-lz5np7yq4j think he’s trying to scam or get you to sub with the threat of a nuke falling on your house
Also never fails to rapidly bald
“Playing someone from Indonesia”
You can almost see the hurt in his eyes from what his last Indonesian opponent did to him
good thing he used the dutch defence lol
some bot copied you lol
@@Mike_RMCFlmao tru
@@Mike_RMCF Works every time
@thebishopchess im you but white
The one thing Levy failed to mention is that it is way more important and useful to analyse our losses than our victories. Analyze every game, if possible, but specially defeats
Very good advice, and very tough to follow. Most of us get incredibly morose after a loss.
analyze both, Sometime u move because u belive in ur instinct but cant calculate all moves
@@luciangv3252 I definitely find it valuable to analyze and correct the mistakes I know I made in games I won, as well as finding mistakes I didn't know about, figuring out what the best or a better move is in places I played just okay, and also, usually, finding the earliest or quickest forced mate, because I often get myself very close but take more moves than I really needed to get there. My losses I sometimes don't learn as much from because often it's that I screwed up badly in the beginning and played well but not well enough to make up for the early mistakes 😅 but I definitely analyze both.
I don't need to analyze my loss when I know it was the purple square bishop on E9 that I hung my queen to that lost me the game...
He's actually said this before in other videos. Almost verbatim lol
Levy after watching your video my elo went from 800 to 400. Thank you ❤
IT'S BEEN 10 MINUTES
@@ishkanark6725the guy created an account and conceded every game.
Lol
@@ishkanark6725 he can play 10 1 minute games
no pin of shame
0:00 through 0:01 was incredibly heart warming and made me feel complete thank you lehvie
Levi*
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@@ГрецкийОлег-щ3гihevmaybe
This is perfect for me, literally just yesterday I was complaining because I was clueless on what I should do to study my game. I've reached the point where it isn't so obvious anymore. I just reached Expert level (2000 OTB) and this has helped me so much on my journey to Master! Thank you Levy!
2000 over the board is Very impressive Congrats bro 👏 U aren't reaching master! 🔥
@@benny_cookshey Benny! Shut up! ❤️❤️
doesnt know how to read engine recomendations how tf did u get to 2000 lmfao
@connorsullivan9274 You need to relax, Connor. obviously "are" autocorrected to "aren't."
Congratulations on reaching 2000/expert level,as well as your faith to achieve FM level. Quite the blessing.
I'd love to see this kind oof analysis with players rated 800-1000. These aren't always bad games at all, but there are things both players miss and game review isn't always clear.
I really enjoyed this Levy thank you! The struggles with my demons are at the 950-1100 range but this is very helpful to understanding how to analyze my games better.
this is series worthy! Teaching us how to learn and how to teach ourselves. Thanks Levy!
Like to make Levy notice, now!!
The way he was able to see things at that speed while commentating is nuts
He's an IM, with potential of GM if and only if he quit youtube and livestreaming and focus 8h/day learning chess.
1.7k GMs in the world, 3.8k IMs in the world. Levy is literally a god tier player when you compare it like that
@@harnageaaexactly
The fact that he is like 400-500 elo behind the best players in the world distorts the perspective a little. His current world ranking is 3611th - given that tens (or even hundreds)of millions of people play chess regularly, he is in like the top 0.01-0.001% . From the perspective of an average chesscom player, playing against him would be no different than playing Magnus of even Stockfish.
@@harnageaathe fact that he's a gm now and is still standing on yt
The entire art of looking at the evaluation and saying "What the computer wants here is ____" is definitely worth a series
0:39 didnt know levy is a rapper
My toxic trait is using my only game review of the day on a game I won just to see how the bot compliments me.
I once analysed a game where I used the Greek gift where I let them take my knight, then sacrificed my bishop and opened the castled king and then checkmated him with rook and queen. All of those moves were blunders, as he could just defend with his queen the final move of my combination which my opponent missed. So yeah it's good to know.
The difference between masters and an average player offering sacrifices is that the former's line is much more forcing as compared to ours. Whether or not our oppenent sees the correct way out of trouble is what makes the difference. I have gotten a Great move that was preceded and supported by a blunder because neither me nor my opponent saw the blunder. And i have gotten 'miss' followed by a great move because I was so tunnel visioned on doing something that I missed that my previous move could secure a better winning situation.
Thank you for creating more educational content lately. I like the style and it feels like some of your earlier stuff.
I literally was introduced to chess with his "learn the ___ opening in 10 minutes" series. I used that series to just absorb as much knowledge about positions and general early and mid game plans almost exclusively for about the first month or two that I started learning.
The main issue with game review is the computer is making decisions based on your opponent playing a perfect stockfish-like game.
Bruh levy's barber blundered his hair 😂😂😂
Nah
What made you say something like this? People say this to you?
@@cosmicsaguarothat was 11 monthes ago grow up lad
11 year old humor
Yes, please do more of these! It's very helpful to see this because I can learn from you explaining a move -- sometimes I don't understand why a move is good or bad and get lost while trying to discover such.
I would love more of this kind of content. These are some of the ones I'd share with anyone wanting to get into chess and are struggling to improve on their own
Definitely helped to hear about the effects of game review versus the analysis from your browser. Had a game recently where game review called a move a mistake, but the version of Stockfish I used said it was the best move! That makes sense now.
Pov: you randomly play a game with random opponent and then your opponent is IM GothamChess
Levy this is one of your best vids learned alot, as i am new to chess been playing like a month, i always looked at my games and what moves i did bad, but i couldn't quite figure out how to find the meaning behind those moves and how to truly integrate it, its one thing knowing and another really knowinggg if you get me, like its integrated now as part of your database in which you can consciously recall, rather then it just floating around your head an never consciously used! this will defo help!!!!!!! THE ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOK!!!!!!!! thankyou fan from manchester Uk
0:18 he means The Botez sisters right?
HAHAHAHQH
0:43 Levy blinked with one eye
I'd love more videos like this one. Maybe even walking someone through evaluating their own game, as well.
What does this mean, at 15:11, “even if no en passant”? Does not compute. En passant is forced, everyone knows that.
Levy never fails to kill my chess career with his advice
Agamator killed my chess career with his obsession that b4 is never a bad move.
Can't kill what doesn't exist
@@notstalin3167 You can kill your girlfriend I’m sure : )
@@iuunito3991this is the thing. It’s not about chess. It’s about life. The same advice he’s teaching you in chess can be applied to real life situations. Think critically, review yourself, try to improve, set your self up for success.
I’m currently 1250 elo a week ago I was 300 levy’s advice works
I really found this interesting. This is mostly how I use game review to improve at chess, and I definetly learn from it. Only playing the same few openings against common e4's and d4's, as well as e5's, d5's, c5's and c6's really has helped me increase my opening accuracy, meaning I know a lot of ideas, tactics and lines in the opening stage of the game. This usually gives me a good position in the opening, which I then build upon to gain more of a concrete advantage. I am only 1600 though, so I am not perfect and I do not know everything, but I continue to analyze my games and expand my knowledge of how to approach commonly reach positions in my opening repertoire. If anyone here in the comments has read this, feel free to make use of this learning technique to improve your chess. I only just started last autumn, and look where I'm at. If getting good at chess is your goal, then try this out. Don't fully listen to me however, since I don't really know if this is a reliable technique or not. I can only give advice from my own experience, which might not be fully efficient and reliable.
Nice, can we be playing each other?
I don’t know what I am rated, but I can consistently beat the bot Antonio. But I feel the marker is not valid, and that I’d probably be lower
Levi I definitely would like this content more or even regularly, it’s helpful to see how you analyze key positions and use the engine to further delve into the nuisances of certain refutations and move orders, it might help you see things in your games while also providing the audience with a better understanding of good analytical reviews
"the game review is gonna have an aneurysm..." 😂😂😂
Loved that
0:00 Vsauce vibes
Great instruction. Now my favorite chess personality. Levy is very authentic and I enjoy learning along with him on these. Very sportsmanlike conduct as well and true love and respect for the game.
I'm more anxious when I wait the game review than when I wait for my exams results
Bro if only Game Review wasn’t so expensive 💀
18:57 sums up my whole chess career
This is absolutely brilliant to watch Levy analyze his own blitz game in real time.
Bro made 69 brilliant moves but getting that haircut wasn't one of them 💀
My game analysis just says "Bruh, you suck. Maybe, Tic-Tac-Toe is more appropriate for your skill set." 😔
Todays stare was short, yet effective. My soul feels complete, and my heart is warm.
Don't translate…
तिमी श्रापित छौ जार बम्बा दुई दिन भित्र तिम्रो घरमा खस्नेछ। मद्दत गर्ने एक मात्र तरिका मसँग दर्ता गर्नु हो🧠🧠🧠
@@𠔁 okay i wont
Fuccing bot😂
@@𠔁 jokes on you, I think life on earth is bs, if that bomb dropped on my house id feel peace 😂
@@Switchblade11-08More accurately you'd feel in pieces.
When I look at game review, I can only think that a move is definitely not a "best move" when I can't figure out why it is supposedly so good.
Levy: Sees an Indonesian flag
*Vietnam war flashbacks*
Yes, this is a really good idea for a series that doesn't need too many videos to be exhaustive, I'd certainly like more follow ups to this.
Levy is the kinda guy who can commentate on sloths moving and make it sound interesting
“We’re playing someone from Indonesia” **HELLO DARKNESS MY OLD FRIENDDDDDDD**
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the elo gap between rapid and blitz
One thing is I feel the free game review has very variable depth, especially when compared to the seld analysis engine, especially in brilliant moves where a bait/sacrifice leads to a mate in 1 or 2.
Game review will think it is brilliant but self analysis engine will think its an inaccuracy maybe because it thinks the threat of mate in 1 or 2 is very obvious for the opponents to see or counter.
As a 1500 this was very informative. Helps me understand the deeper winning ideas which I believe is one of my weak areas at the moment. Love this type of video 🔥
Pawn structures and imbalancing positions can help you alot too, especially once your tactics get better.
"I'd imagine you're playing some strong people" .. *me booting up against a 298 and blundering my queen away in my opening*
this video was so good I felt the advice coming inside of me
🤤
Pause
I confirm, I was the advice
I confirm, I was the video
Amazing video as always Levy :) by the way, maybe you could consider making more 10 minute opening videos? Would love to see a QID or Grünfeld video. Maybe even dive into chess history with Casablanca vs Tartakower? Whatever it is, I know I’ll love the next video as much as the previous one
1:04 What if I am?
Are you?
Nice video, very instructive. But I've got one question, once I analyze my previous game this way, I cannot guarantee that the same ideas should be used in the next one.
For instance, let's say in one game the engine shows I need to develop and castle short, but in the next game it may say it is better to take more space quickly and castle long for an attack.
So the question is: How can I handle this different positions and still learn using the engine to correct my mistakes?
Your graph is so much better than mine ever are. My graphs look like they're tracking the value of bitcoin.
Levy dropped a whole verse in the beginning and didn’t even realize
Very helpful! Please do more of this. Going more slowly through the tools (Openings, Analysis) would be very useful to me, and probably others. Thank you!
I use 2 moving averages and bulls and bears indicators. Mostly focus on bulls and bears as it helps with pattern recognition better.
Levy never fails to upload a good video🔥🔥🔥
My guy started rhyming, he has a hidden talent, make no mistake.
Why did u delete the hikaru beef vid man
What was it about?
@@KillOnS about the beef between hikaru and gotham...?
@@foge0000 As I thought, it turned out to be a clickbait once again by Levi which majes me sad cuz there is actual beef between then and neither of them would talk about it (altho I'm pretty sure I know what it's about)
Thanks Levy. I've seen you talking about how to understand the eval bar in other videos, but having a separate video focussing on this was really useful
Respect for having a bad day during the stream and still having the willpower to make a video
I drew to magnus bot, that's all the stats I need for now 😂
Hi levy I was watching your stream a few hours ago. When you stoped the stream. I just want to make sure that you are okay with your fans, and also the more important of having fun. Thank you for updating
what happened?
@ilisian nothing, he just got frustrated from chat and turned off the stream
@@sanadnaouri5699 ah
my man could've played the englund gambit in the first game. but he's an IM, he knows what he's doing
Ypu can take down the beef video. But i saw it.
Pov: you actually answer the questions on r/chess
First
You’re actually first..
@@Didyusik😊
Good for you, what do you want, a trophy?
@@rye9270nope
the hard thing about openings at a low level is usually the other person doesnt know how to respond which takes u off course which at low level u get lost not knowing what to do next when the opponent messes up
We won’t talk about the number of brilliant moves in the thumbnail, alr?
Amazing video Levy. Would be great to see a series of game review and analysis
His tanktop collection bout to be an NFT
"great move" - "You captured a hanging piece"
Try to strip the game of your elos and ask it to estimate the elo again. It's using your elo to guess your elo. If the exact same game was played by 800s, it might say 1350.
My favorite thing is when a game calls a move that ends the game a mere miss.
that 1 second checkmate was really cool
it always underestimate me, calling my beautiful sacrifices a blunder
It happens to the best of us maybe not but okay
I captured a free pawn and game review told me I made a mistake of missing out on winning a free pawn. The other time I checked the best move, played it in analysis mode and it changed its mind and told me a different move was a best move.
I don't know Levy, i'm also rapidly balding, wearing tank tops, and giving advice, but my chess is still wack
I just looked at a game review, and it told me I was going to lose a bishop when in fact none of my bishops were threatened, and it was actually my opponent's pawn threatening my knight. It also told me to trade a bishop in exchange for a pawn and getting me checkmated.
i still dont know why only playing 1 game on high level chess is the same crime as arson on a adoption center
the early queen move was to prevent the bishop from checking (d3 to b5), was it not? that move wouldve forced you to give up the castle later, or put a pony in the way, sacrificing it
love this type of educational videos, wish more people were interested in them so you could produce more of them!
Thank Levy, this is great because I never understood why it says things like 'missed an opportunity to miss a knight'
You’re forgetting you can simply hit the “Best” button and it’ll tell you the recommended move in any position.
Game review is good when it says my estimated elo is 2000 elo and bad when it says im 100 elo
If you're going to give suggestions on how to use Game Review you should probably mention the example here where the graph shows an obvious missed win by black in the end game.
I think the biggest issues with the game reviews is how it can be rather weird in judging whether a game was between two 500 elo players or like a 2200+ elo level. I had games rated in literally all sorts of elo ranges, up to literal GM elo level. Now truth be told, some of those games were played very poorly of course and deserved a 500 elo rating I guess, especially in bullet where you sometimes just throw anything at your opponent. But sometimes I am crushing my opponent with fairly 'easy' to play chess positions and then the elo rating sucks because I just played simple chess that was more guaranteed to win versus playing absolute best moves. So yeah, my accuracy was a bit lower, but my human opponent had almost no chance to win. Pretty much. Also, I often disagree with the computer overvaluing taking space in a single move, versus looking a bit deeper into the next 5 or so moves. And sometimes it does see the deeper follow up moves. The computer gets weird the most when there are many many variations possible. Or when your opponent didn't play the best moves either hahah.
This is a great format! Definitely do more of these. Diving into "ok, so this move was best, but WHY?" is really helpful.
This is actualy a VERY useful video. I will send this to my chessnoob friends.
I also felt like the game review is more of an ego boost, since most people only analyze their wins.
Thank you for this insight
Solid video, i strongly dislike the meme 100 elo click bait but this i found genuinely informative. Would love more.
I especially liked how you figured out the nature of the mistake from the engine moves, however figuring out that it's due to an isolated queen's pawn that may become weaker much later is never something I'm going to find at my level. There could be so many reasons that would seem equally likely.
Basically, if it says you missed an opportunity to win or threaten x, treat it as a puzzle with that goal. Understand why it's good after completing it.
22:40 it’s more than a game or one match, it absolutely improvement, thinking critically, seeing the opposing side
Understanding why a move is bad is nice, but is it enough to actually improve. The real question is not why move was bad or good, the real question is how do I improve the quality of my moves in my future games.
I can get that if I find a pattern of how do I tend to make bad moves then this is something I can fix. But just finding bad moves help little. Perhaps finding bad moves in a stage of the game I want to be familiar with better is a nice question, as then I can take multiple games and find the mistakes that I do on a general level, not the exact wrong moves, which allows me then to do something to fix.
Asking the proper question is the right way to improve, and I don't think "why was the move the AI treated as a mistake was bad?" helps much with improvement.
as a 2500 player i can confirm that there are demons when I play
At 11:30 you can see that the computer marked c5 as an inaccuracy, even though the eval is exactly 0.01 point worse after ...c5 than after the best computer move (Qd7).
I think it's important to keep in mind that the chess engine doing the game reviews is much less powerful than the one in the "Analysis" section. Because of that, sometimes moves are marked as inaccurate even though, when you push the analysis a little further, they turn out to actually be the best move or to be as good as what the game review recommends.
I played a move that was guaranteed checkmate on the next move and the computer said it was a miss. I even saved the game. I don’t understand it. They wanted me to make an extra 10 moves to CM the opponent.