@@myPlaylistChannelMus Yo, just because 1 mission is hard doesn't mean you should dismiss the entire game bro. Yes the racing mission is hard, but overall the remake is a great and a fantastic game. I looked up on a guide on how to win the race, and then i beat it
@@myPlaylistChannelMus I'll be honest.. it's pretty easy on the lower difficulty... as for the classic mode.... It's supposed to be hard.... or else it would not be "classic" difficulty.... Now yes.. it's annoying as hell... but compared to the original it's really not that bad.. they even crash cars in front of you to help you and you can use the ram option to level you car in curves... It did take me almost an hour to beat it in the remake... but basically most of the time it was my fault for failing by not breaking or not using the ram option... Once you realise how you need to race it gets easier.. ( still hard.. but beatable )
@@myPlaylistChannelMus How is this mission out of context when your whole thing is that you ARE THE DRIVER.... everything you learn in this race is something you can use later on in the carchases... Also.. it is RUINED for you.... and again you can always do it lower dificulties which is easy... The whole point of classic difficulty is to make it as hard as the original ( even though it is easier this time around )
I remember beating the original Mafia YEARS back, but when I played the Definitive Edition today, I basically forgot EVERYTHING but in the back of my mind I kept thinking "Why do I only remember a racing mission and the end of the game?" then I finally reached the mission and then... I understood why I remembered it so vividly, just didn't remember the anger until my 5th attempt
And yet the race in Definitive edition plays completely diferent than in original game. I wonder if devs even realized how much would they get under people´s skin with that two missions alone.
I was 15 when I played this in 2002.... It took me about 2 hours and a whole lot of screaming to finish it.... Then I didn't play for a couple of days I lost some of my sanity that day
I was a few years younger and can't really remember but I either used a trainer to win/skip the mission or I might've actually downloaded a save file that continued the story right after this race.
In the original unpatched version, you could take that extra road and it counted as a lap, cutting out half the circuit! Just do that five times and you're golden. Apparently there was supposed to be a whole optional racing career mode, you could go back to the track at other times and compete in other optional races, but it was cut. Also, if the devs were using wheels and pedals, I wonder if a simracing RUclipsr like Jimmy Broadbent or GP Laps could be persuaded to try it on a rig?
I remember going to my friends and seeing him play this game but he was finishing it. Now I know that he was an absolute mad lad and no wonder he merked me in halo all the time.
After a lot of suffering, did it on Classic difficulty in the remake and this one looks much more annoying. To win it in the remake all you need to do is cut the third and fourth corner trough the grass and be at least fourth - three drivers will crash in front of you - on the first lap in the first carousel, on the second lap after the hairpin and on the third one at the last carousel corner.
@The Usual Sus I bought the original today and did the racing mission on like my 5th or 6th try. It wasn't _difficult_ imo. I just had to get used to the track and physics (which are realistic considering the skittishness of 30s grand prix cars) you just have to know about racing lines, feather the throttle, be easy on the brake, and DO. NOT. hit the gas before you straighten up out of the turn.
I did not expect to laugh so hard watching this video! The selection of old jazz songs was great, but the 𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘨 of them in certain spots throughout the video along with picking certain parts or cues in the songs, overtop your hilarious commentary was comedic genius!! I enjoyed the music so much, I am glad you included the titles and performers in your closing credits.
Thank you for watching! 😊 And I might produce another episode when I come something as ridiculous yet entertaining as this one in my retro gaming endeavors 😅
I remember when I played this, I failed a lot, then looked up a guide and all it said was "Do not brake or accelerate while turning the car." And so I did exactly that. And won by a landslide.
I laughed way harder than I thought I would have, and as always, your editing is amazing. The alt-tab showing of the video games, so good, and I'm sure 99% won't even notice all the hard work you put into the first few minutes, it's crazy. Love it ❤
@@PixelProphecy You're welcome. I still point people to your channel after all these years for amazing Post Mortems 😊keep on being awesome and making awesome things❤
It took me a bit to figure out that the tv was a 3d model and I still didn't know for sure until I saw that part at the end, amazing render, you've poured so much work into the graphical component of this video. Entertaining as always, and this time you got ver close to having enough unicorn.
@@PixelProphecy As it turns out your cursed. I wasn't gonna say anything but ever since I watched your last post-mortem where you looked up an issue you were having and got a 'nevermind, I fixed it' I have been getting those all the time. Seriously at the time of watching I laughed but was like 'oh that doesn't happen that often' now I keep getting super obscure weird bugs in Unity and when I look them up I find threads ending in ok-I fixed it. It just happened again and I decided that was the last straw.
@@PixelProphecy You can always have more unicorn! I was wondering, they said the designers for the infamous mission all had racing wheels at their desks... Would the mission be any easier with such a controller? Also what would that mission be like on the hardest difficulty..
@@teddyteddy3583 That race was much easier using an analogue controller. I was one of the few people that bought a Saitek Cyborg 3D gamepad with mini-wheel just for racing games. But back in 2002 95% PC players used only keyboard & mouse.
Why thank you! I'm doing my best to attract more subscribers with production quality and I am slowly getting there. If the trend continues, I will have 100k subs by 2055! 😁
This videos great. From the intro setup, to the track preview to insulting LJN; everything about this video was wonderful. Subbing as it was consistently funny
Very entertained. Different than what I expected, but not in a bad way. Sufficient skips to keep the mundane down, and a fresh take on an old game level in totally full pixel prophecy style. Great work, :^]
Glad you enjoyed it! The next video will be one will hark back to the familiar post mortem format but once in a while I feel my oats and do something like this 😅
Not to hate or troll, but i haven't played this game for 5 years or even longer. Yesterday i started the race on normal with damage and got it the second time. You don't drift in this, it's a racing car from the 30s not some japanese car from today. When you see a turn you break very early and you countersteer when the car begins to swerve. It's as easy as this. I literally can't even drive this bad if i wanted. And this is on easy, lmao. 17:00 why would you say that you prevailed on normal, if you won the race on easy? And i love how concensous is that this race was "bad" when in fact it only was hard. It never was bad to begin with. There are videos on RUclips where real racing pilots talked positive about the physics and the race itself.
i was 4 when this game came out, and one of my earliers gaming memories is watching my dad struggle with this race. a few years ago when the remake came out, he did the race in one attempt without even calling me over. that got me quite disappointed. today, he booted up the remake again and was struggling with the mission. I coincidentally walked up to him at that point and offered to try it for him, did the drive to the track in one try and the race in two. that made me quite proud
Great video!!! Watched it for the second time now. :D The TV and the Computer scenes came out looking awesome, especially the computer one. The mood is just awesome and the attention to detail, the nostalgia is real xD It was also great watching a part of the process in the live stream. Keep up the awesome work Phil! :)
Played the OG Mafia for the first time yesterday and wow I had roller coasters of emotion! a great gaming experience to do, all gamers should at least try this mission once in their lives!
Yup, my friends and me were playing this back in 2003. One friend won the race and went on to the next mission. I did not sleep until I finished it myself. This was the matter of honour
I had no issues with the race BUT SHOOTING THE GUNS OF THE POLICE CAR CHASING U was absolute hell. They tell u to duck when they shoot and shoot when they reload but you’ll get it in 1 try if you just ignore that and shoot non stop. I was so annoyed my god
Yeeeesssss this is exactly how i remember it, there was another YT video where the guy said it was easy and he didn't know what people were talking about. Really funny video.
Dunno if it's the case just on my PC, but using WASD and the arrow keys has a tiny difference between the two, which I learned to utilize and ever since the race wasn't so hard. I think using the arrow keys over WASD grants you a smoother car control, which can allow you to prevent yourself from spinning out after a slight turn.
I think the main trick is to not hit the throttle too early. It's impossible to keep the car under control if you try to steer and accelerate at the same time, so the trick is to wait until the car is straightly aligned after a corner and only then hit the throttle. The car has more than enough speed to take on the competition, so you don't need to go constantly as fast as possible. If you're careful it might feel like you're slow, but it's actually much faster when you're not constantly spinning :P
Wonderful tip, thanks Martijn! That's how I approached it in the end, going off the throttle before curves, and then carefully accelerating again when the track becomes straight. In other words: Don't be greedy ;) Though the other cars aren't *that* slow I've found out.
@@PixelProphecy But it was not on the hardest difficulty, right? And with or without patches/updates? Because one update (if not more) made the race easier......
@@samfkt I played the patched version from GOG and switched between "easy" and "normal", my winning run was on normal. I have no direct comparison but it felt easier than with the unpatched game 18 years ago 😅
This was awesome! There has not been single video from you Phil that I did not enjoy! Regarding this mission, I always found the driving mission before the actual race to be much harder for some reason....perhaps because of the way the city of Lost Heaven was designed!?
Oh yes! But at least it was possible to try different routes with less police, for example. But I also had to try that one multiple times until I succeeded and was yearning for more 3rd person shooting. But nope! 😅
@@PixelProphecy you did not enjoy driving like a madman in this frustrating mission? Well good news here is another one that is even more frustrating! Hope you are happy.
I recently got the Mafia trilogy and was warned by multiple people about the race mission and how frustratingly difficult it is. Really wasn’t looking forward to it, especially since I’m already rather crap at driving in games. When the mission came up, I was absolutely dreading it. Strangely and luckily enough, I ended up beating it first time. Pretty sure it was complete luck though because I took a corner too fast and instead of crashing and flipping over, my car just bounced off the side and rocketed down the track. Got me pretty far ahead of the other cars and was able to win by just driving carefully after that. I’m glad I got lucky because I have no patience with missions I keep failing constantly.
Just finished the race on Extreme yesterday in what is probably my 100th playthrough. I couldn't do it on the first try, nor the 2nd, nor the 3rd, but overall it didn't take long. It took waaaaaaay faster than my first playthrough. Originally, I was playing the un-patched first release. I'm beginning to suspect that the original race was harder than the patched one on Extreme. My time lap time with a keyboard on PC is 1.29.5-1.30.0. I never realized you can cut the hairpin, though! Or maybe I did try it 20 years ago but didn't think it was worth it.
Quality work, didn't expect it to be perfectly honest. Very handy to show us all the games and music used in the video at the end, I can't think of anyone else who has done that well. I don't know how much you were screwing around and if you honestly needed that many tries. Of course one can have a lapse in judgement when leading by such a margin, but to be honest you could have been snailing your way to the finish one on that fifth lap. I must be the only one in history who enjoyed this mission. I actually used to race and try to beat lap and race times, I kid you not. Stringing together multiple victories in a row, was certainly not a problem. Perhaps that's why in the Definitive Edition, I managed to complete the race on Classic difficulty in about fifteen minutes. Albeit the mission is inferior in the new game in my opinion, among other things, you have the abysmal ram feature. In my opinion, the person who gave it the green light for the game should hang.
Thanks for watching and the comment! And none of my failings were deliberate, I decided to make a video out of my many attempts after the fact 😅 I haven't played the new Mafia game yet but I am curious to find out about how the race handles. Regardless, I don't agree that the person who kept the ram feature in "should hang". I know you were joking but still that's not cool.
@@PixelProphecy I didn't mean that the person should literally be murdered or tried and hung. Not sure why you're so up tight about it, did one of your relatives hang? The person should be fired, because the implementation of the feature in part destroys the game. It's clear that they didn't actually play the game themselves.
You're not, I put it in intentionally because analog TVs used to emit this 15625 Hz tone as it's their horizontal scan rate (at least in the PAL broadcast system).
Ive always been really fond of this mission and its the ones setting it up beforehand. I remember when i first played the mission in question. I was in awe as id never seen earlier era representation of racing in gaming at that time. I still really like doing this mission wen i occasionally plat through it. Once you get it down to a fine art you can be an absolute vintage sick c×nt beast
I actually remember being quite good at this mission when I was a kid. Playing this mission on the DE on classic difficulty makes me wonder how I ever managed to do it to begin with
Thank you so much! The TV I bought from Turbosquid (www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/sony-trinitron-kv-13tr28-1995-3d-1564778 ), as well as the PS2, but the PC I modeled mostly myself, only the lamp and desk organizer in that scene aren't mine :)
@@PixelProphecy Amazing work, BTW I did my first ever Ludum Dare two months ago after binge watching all your post mortems, so thanks for inspiration and great content.
Yeah I was struggling with this as well, after 5 or 6 attempts I just turned the tire grip up to max which made the race quite easy as the car became much more controlable
@@PixelProphecy Kommt mir vor als wäre es gestern. Btw: Du könntest mal ein Video über die Intro-Szene bzw. die Intros (1kb, 2kb, ..) von damals machen.
I just came back from playing the remake version of that level. wanna give a a applause to those who grew up with the OG and manage to beat the OG version of the stage.
Mafia was a good game but it took me months to complete that sodding level (it was pre-patch and I put the game aside for a few months). I only stuck with it because I enjoyed the earlier missions overall. That missions is sole reason why I never returned to the game after beating it.
I don't know how about original but in definitive edition on hardest difficulty I beated it in first try with a keyboard, it didin't seem hard how everybody saying, but I say why peoples saying its hard cuz of how unstable everything feels, but if u try it gentle and play it like a real racing simulator, I would say definitely its easy, but again, I am in to sim racing games, so maybe that makes a difference.
Oh darn the early 00's nostalgia. I liked the free roam in Mafia but I'm really bad at driving in GTA-likes... I'm sure that I was only good at driving in Saints Row.
Having played countless hours of Dirt Rally, I actually found this stage easy. If you have your racing line right and know your breaking points it’s not that hard. I wish I had basic racing knowledge back then.
First time on this channel, love it! However I think it was really unfair to do your attempts on patched Mafia - you should try this on unpatched version. Eighth attempt? I've done like 20 attempts a day for 7 days to get through this mission on original version.
The patched version was the only one I had and I take every help I can get. I vaguely recall being really frustrated as well when I beat the game in 2002 but I don't recall how many attempts it took me in the end. Forgetfulness is bliss! 😅
Good job on the editing and I'm glad you made this because I honestly thought the remake was difficult on classic difficulty, glad to learn the original was just as or more difficult. I had to turn down the difficulty just by one and I beat it on the first try but I tried for probably 2 hours and I could never get 1st. Infuriating game but still fun.
I wish I could relate to this pain, but as a lover of racing games, this is very easy for me. If I play safe, I drive consistently about 1:30 lap times without any cuts. I managed to overtake some of them by one lap too. Also you can overtake all the opponents at the start so it's pretty much guaranteed win every time. Changing difficulty didn't really change anything for me, I guess they drive faster at extreme. In the remake there's actually some racing, as you can't just overtake everyone immediately, but I won that on first try at classic difficulty. I'd say that the remake is more forgiving if you do mistakes though and the driving is easier.
Imagine some other hypothetical game. It introduces itself as being one thing then becomes something different 5 missions in, and this novelty mission has completely stopped you from playing the rest of the game.
I'm pretty sure that Mafia is my favorite game of all times. I played it first time in 2004. Racing mission was a nightmare. Eventually beat it. But it took me least a few weeks. Maybe 1-2 tries a day and i gave up. But i still remembre the feeling when i got it through - butterflyes in stomache etc. I play Mafia least once a year, and racing mission, even on extreme level is sooo easy now😅
in a game where driving feels pretty janky this race was a horrible idea for it to be mandatory to beat if gta 5 has too much traction control this game has the oppsite which makes sense given the bike tires they drive on but even on controller at about 25% acceleration theres still just no traction its like youre driving on ice the wheelspin doesnt even give any forwards momentum i feel like gta iv did it right where the suspension although seemingly too soft was actually the most realistic as cars are just heavy on another note as the definite edition forces you to use simulation driving when playing on classic difficulty it makes the race especially horrible because the tiny micro adjustments done to the steering in arcade driving mode are impossible for a human to consistently do on controller to outpace the AI let alone worry about the traction while trying to follow the racingline and do overtakes
Ahahahah, cool video, thanks) Fev days ago, I tried Mafia remaster on ps5, and faced with tis mission on classic difficulty. As form me, it was much harder, than on non-patched version of the Mafia from my childhood... Maybe you can remaster this video with remastered mafia? :D
Wow.. just wow! Absolutely fantastic and engaging video! I had some great laughs at your 'top gear' style track description .. the easter eggs 'pony' and other were great.. renders were mind blowing.. you really transported me back to my 2002 gaming era too! Love the little bit of the 'behind the scenes' footage you included in the credits as well, as it's always amazing to see the effort you put into your creations. Thank you so much for making this video and sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it and (as always!) for noticing all the details! That I transported you back to 2002 was what I was working towards to with the CGI living room and PC shots. So having all that work appreciated makes me a happy pony! 😊
@@PixelProphecy I can tell! Amazing editing, design... Everything. By the way, was that Blender that you used to create the computer and desk scene? It looked incredible.
@@samfkt I will definitely play it and record my play-through. I won#t promise anything beyond that 😅 Then again, I never plan my video topics far ahead... ;)
The only reason it was bad was because people were expecting GTA clone, with arcade-like behaviour of cars. Meanwihle Mafia was originaly supposed to be racing simulator, with fully functional racing mechanics, like oversteer, understeer and grip (and frequent lose of it if you werent prepared). Combined with the fact that your car was overpowered cigar on thin wheels and behaved like overpowered cigar on thin wheels, you got your issues. Once you got used to this fact and treated it like racing game, the race was actually pretty fun. I was actually pretty displeased when devs added racing minigames to console only. What was pain in the ass though, was collecting cars in extreme ride , with their limitations and extra rules. Also fun fact: There used to be a shortcut that lets you skip almost half of each lap, making the race laughably easy, but devs patched it out. In the very same patch they introduced difficulty settings.
I can't believe that my 12 year old self can beat the original race while here i am 21 years old still can't beat the remake race after 40ish attemps
@@myPlaylistChannelMus Yo, just because 1 mission is hard doesn't mean you should dismiss the entire game bro. Yes the racing mission is hard, but overall the remake is a great and a fantastic game. I looked up on a guide on how to win the race, and then i beat it
@@myPlaylistChannelMus Okay, I understand you
@@myPlaylistChannelMus git gud scrub
@@myPlaylistChannelMus I'll be honest.. it's pretty easy on the lower difficulty... as for the classic mode.... It's supposed to be hard.... or else it would not be "classic" difficulty.... Now yes.. it's annoying as hell... but compared to the original it's really not that bad.. they even crash cars in front of you to help you and you can use the ram option to level you car in curves... It did take me almost an hour to beat it in the remake... but basically most of the time it was my fault for failing by not breaking or not using the ram option... Once you realise how you need to race it gets easier.. ( still hard.. but beatable )
@@myPlaylistChannelMus How is this mission out of context when your whole thing is that you ARE THE DRIVER.... everything you learn in this race is something you can use later on in the carchases... Also.. it is RUINED for you.... and again you can always do it lower dificulties which is easy... The whole point of classic difficulty is to make it as hard as the original ( even though it is easier this time around )
I remember beating the original Mafia YEARS back, but when I played the Definitive Edition today, I basically forgot EVERYTHING but in the back of my mind I kept thinking "Why do I only remember a racing mission and the end of the game?" then I finally reached the mission and then... I understood why I remembered it so vividly, just didn't remember the anger until my 5th attempt
And yet the race in Definitive edition plays completely diferent than in original game. I wonder if devs even realized how much would they get under people´s skin with that two missions alone.
beat the original one on extreme in about an hour, took me about an hour and a half on definitive edition classic difficulty
I was 15 when I played this in 2002.... It took me about 2 hours and a whole lot of screaming to finish it.... Then I didn't play for a couple of days
I lost some of my sanity that day
so many nerves lost for nothing
I was a few years younger and can't really remember but I either used a trainer to win/skip the mission or I might've actually downloaded a save file that continued the story right after this race.
Still can't believe how detailed your 3D renders are, even better in motion! Really enjoyed the video 👍
Thanks a ton! Also thank you so much for your kind coffee donation! 🥰
Fun fact: The race track seems to be based on the real world race track Laguna Seca. It has exactly the same sequence of left and right turns.
Wow, you're right! I never knew, thanks for pointing that out! 🤗
In the original unpatched version, you could take that extra road and it counted as a lap, cutting out half the circuit! Just do that five times and you're golden.
Apparently there was supposed to be a whole optional racing career mode, you could go back to the track at other times and compete in other optional races, but it was cut.
Also, if the devs were using wheels and pedals, I wonder if a simracing RUclipsr like Jimmy Broadbent or GP Laps could be persuaded to try it on a rig?
I remember going to my friends and seeing him play this game but he was finishing it. Now I know that he was an absolute mad lad and no wonder he merked me in halo all the time.
I love how the tv is called "pony" and "Unichron" lol, great vid!
Thanks for noticing!
xD i thought it was actually a fake sony ...didnt even realize
It looks like my boy is back with another banger! Cant wait
After a lot of suffering, did it on Classic difficulty in the remake and this one looks much more annoying. To win it in the remake all you need to do is cut the third and fourth corner trough the grass and be at least fourth - three drivers will crash in front of you - on the first lap in the first carousel, on the second lap after the hairpin and on the third one at the last carousel corner.
@The Usual Sus I bought the original today and did the racing mission on like my 5th or 6th try. It wasn't _difficult_ imo. I just had to get used to the track and physics (which are realistic considering the skittishness of 30s grand prix cars) you just have to know about racing lines, feather the throttle, be easy on the brake, and DO. NOT. hit the gas before you straighten up out of the turn.
I did not expect to laugh so hard watching this video! The selection of old jazz songs was great, but the 𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘪𝘯𝘨 of them in certain spots throughout the video along with picking certain parts or cues in the songs, overtop your hilarious commentary was comedic genius!! I enjoyed the music so much, I am glad you included the titles and performers in your closing credits.
Thank you so much for watching and your kind comment, Steve! I am very glad that all the nudging of audio clips in my editing tool was justified. 😊
Loved it! Hope "Was It Really That Bad?" becomes a regular series, because it really is that good! :)
Thank you for watching! 😊 And I might produce another episode when I come something as ridiculous yet entertaining as this one in my retro gaming endeavors 😅
This video should get more views. This is the funniest, greatest, and most relatable video I have ever watched
Aww thank you so much! 🥰 And it only took me 4 months to reply, I'm so sorry!
It's 4am where I am and I was like I want it now
I remember when I played this, I failed a lot, then looked up a guide and all it said was "Do not brake or accelerate while turning the car."
And so I did exactly that. And won by a landslide.
See? It wasn't that hard after all. Just gotta use common sense, right?
I laughed way harder than I thought I would have, and as always, your editing is amazing. The alt-tab showing of the video games, so good, and I'm sure 99% won't even notice all the hard work you put into the first few minutes, it's crazy. Love it ❤
Thanks a ton! As long as at least one person notices all those little things I spend way too much time on, it's worth it! 🥰
@@PixelProphecy You're welcome. I still point people to your channel after all these years for amazing Post Mortems 😊keep on being awesome and making awesome things❤
@@NKCSS Thank you! I'll do my best! 😊
Why does this channel have such good quality videos with so few subscribers?
I've been stuck in this level and HIGHKEY want to smash my monitor.
It took me a bit to figure out that the tv was a 3d model and I still didn't know for sure until I saw that part at the end, amazing render, you've poured so much work into the graphical component of this video. Entertaining as always, and this time you got ver close to having enough unicorn.
That's music to my ears! But I feel I could still work more unicorns into into a video. We shall see :)
@@PixelProphecy As it turns out your cursed. I wasn't gonna say anything but ever since I watched your last post-mortem where you looked up an issue you were having and got a 'nevermind, I fixed it' I have been getting those all the time. Seriously at the time of watching I laughed but was like 'oh that doesn't happen that often' now I keep getting super obscure weird bugs in Unity and when I look them up I find threads ending in ok-I fixed it. It just happened again and I decided that was the last straw.
@@teddyteddy3583 Oh dear! Maybe I should put a warning on my video, "may curse your Unity deployment" 😅
@@PixelProphecy You can always have more unicorn! I was wondering, they said the designers for the infamous mission all had racing wheels at their desks... Would the mission be any easier with such a controller? Also what would that mission be like on the hardest difficulty..
@@teddyteddy3583 That race was much easier using an analogue controller. I was one of the few people that bought a Saitek Cyborg 3D gamepad with mini-wheel just for racing games. But back in 2002 95% PC players used only keyboard & mouse.
It's bizarre to see that you don't already have 100x your current subscriber count.
Your videos are great, keep up the amazing work!
Thanks, will do! ☺
8:35 well no shit it’s a old racer from the 30s wtf you expect everyone “omg waaaa it’s too realistic “ grow some balls learn how to race 😭💀
The fact that you only have 8k subs is mind boggling this quality is too good
Why thank you! I'm doing my best to attract more subscribers with production quality and I am slowly getting there. If the trend continues, I will have 100k subs by 2055! 😁
Pixel Prophecy hopefully in the next decade 😊
All your videos are just AMAZING! they are all so well made and polished it’s just amazing!
Thank you so much!!
The car mission in the remake still sucks.
Put the difficulty on easy and driving style on regular and it’s doable.
Took me like two and half hour to successfully finish the mission on the hardest difficulty (classic) what a nightmare this was :D
I did it on classic
@@danielcharfreitag4105 yeah I had debated on lowering the difficulty after an hour but stuck it out. This mission sucks
Did it on classic and it wasn't that bad, OG Mafia race looks way way worse
I love how there's so much creativity on anything you please om RUclips these days I use it like I use to use google for searching things up.
Your videos are edited so well and are so engaging and informative. You deserve all the attention you get and more. Thank you for the videos :)
Thank you so much for watching and appreciating the effort that goes into them! 🥰
This videos great. From the intro setup, to the track preview to insulting LJN; everything about this video was wonderful. Subbing as it was consistently funny
I'm glad not all my jokes fell flat then! Thank you so much for the nice comment and the sub! 😊
Very entertained. Different than what I expected, but not in a bad way. Sufficient skips to keep the mundane down, and a fresh take on an old game level in totally full pixel prophecy style. Great work, :^]
Glad you enjoyed it! The next video will be one will hark back to the familiar post mortem format but once in a while I feel my oats and do something like this 😅
I played Mafia:DE last night，Classical difficulty ，that race mission took me nearly 9 hours to complete.........damn......
Tap, don't hold. That's how you clear turns safely.
Awesome video dude ,wish more people noticed you
Thank you! As long as the *right* kind of people keeps noticing me, I'm happy 😊
Not to hate or troll, but i haven't played this game for 5 years or even longer. Yesterday i started the race on normal with damage and got it the second time. You don't drift in this, it's a racing car from the 30s not some japanese car from today. When you see a turn you break very early and you countersteer when the car begins to swerve. It's as easy as this. I literally can't even drive this bad if i wanted. And this is on easy, lmao. 17:00 why would you say that you prevailed on normal, if you won the race on easy? And i love how concensous is that this race was "bad" when in fact it only was hard. It never was bad to begin with. There are videos on RUclips where real racing pilots talked positive about the physics and the race itself.
Still doesn’t change the fact it’s a garbage level in a great game 👍
@@Michael1234567860 true, it took me a few tries to get it, but the thing that always gets me is that first turn.
Craig Franklin first turn literally judges the rest of the race 😂
“Not some Japanese car from today” I’m amused that you think drifting is a Japanese thing.
BRH this race almost broke my soul during this playthrough. I'm literally raging at just your title :D
2002 was the greatest year of my life. No joke.
Instant like! My favorite youtuber rn
Wow, thanks! 🥰
i was 4 when this game came out, and one of my earliers gaming memories is watching my dad struggle with this race. a few years ago when the remake came out, he did the race in one attempt without even calling me over. that got me quite disappointed.
today, he booted up the remake again and was struggling with the mission. I coincidentally walked up to him at that point and offered to try it for him, did the drive to the track in one try and the race in two. that made me quite proud
Thanks for sharing, and congrats for beating that darn race!
Great video!!! Watched it for the second time now. :D The TV and the Computer scenes came out looking awesome, especially the computer one. The mood is just awesome and the attention to detail, the nostalgia is real xD It was also great watching a part of the process in the live stream. Keep up the awesome work Phil! :)
Glad you enjoyed it and also thanks for following the BTS-livestream! Makes me very happy to know that the nostalgic bits hit right home :)
Who told you this was a shooting game? This is a driving game. Just like GTA
Played the OG Mafia for the first time yesterday and wow I had roller coasters of emotion! a great gaming experience to do, all gamers should at least try this mission once in their lives!
Very well made and an all round amazing video
Thank you! Much appreciated! 😊
Didn't understand the hate for this racing bit
now I understand
Punched my keyboard and snapped the disc in rage doing that level when I was a kid, such happy days 🤣
Childhood rage is the best in nostalgia rage! 😂
Yup, my friends and me were playing this back in 2003. One friend won the race and went on to the next mission. I did not sleep until I finished it myself. This was the matter of honour
This is a great video bring me back to the early 2000's
I had no issues with the race BUT SHOOTING THE GUNS OF THE POLICE CAR CHASING U was absolute hell. They tell u to duck when they shoot and shoot when they reload but you’ll get it in 1 try if you just ignore that and shoot non stop. I was so annoyed my god
Mafia Definitive Edition "The Racing" Mission still difficult despite coming out last year. Took like 2 hours to beat it.
Curious how I made it? Here's the link to my "Behind the Edit" stream: ruclips.net/video/H3qLHF0hf74/видео.html
5:38 My God this cutscene's forever burned in my brain.
Yeeeesssss this is exactly how i remember it, there was another YT video where the guy said it was easy and he didn't know what people were talking about. Really funny video.
Another great production, nice work!
Glad you like it!
Dunno if it's the case just on my PC, but using WASD and the arrow keys has a tiny difference between the two, which I learned to utilize and ever since the race wasn't so hard. I think using the arrow keys over WASD grants you a smoother car control, which can allow you to prevent yourself from spinning out after a slight turn.
Interesting! Never even considered there could be a difference! Thanks for sharing!
I think the main trick is to not hit the throttle too early. It's impossible to keep the car under control if you try to steer and accelerate at the same time, so the trick is to wait until the car is straightly aligned after a corner and only then hit the throttle. The car has more than enough speed to take on the competition, so you don't need to go constantly as fast as possible. If you're careful it might feel like you're slow, but it's actually much faster when you're not constantly spinning :P
Wonderful tip, thanks Martijn! That's how I approached it in the end, going off the throttle before curves, and then carefully accelerating again when the track becomes straight. In other words: Don't be greedy ;) Though the other cars aren't *that* slow I've found out.
@@PixelProphecy But it was not on the hardest difficulty, right? And with or without patches/updates? Because one update (if not more) made the race easier......
@@samfkt I played the patched version from GOG and switched between "easy" and "normal", my winning run was on normal. I have no direct comparison but it felt easier than with the unpatched game 18 years ago 😅
Yes exactly I beated it after like 4th try with the extreme difficulty and I had the best lap time of 1:27
Us: *wonders where the next video is*
Phil: "Just over here making blender scenes."
No wonder lol. Nice job.
😅 Thanks for sticking with me!
This was incredible. Please make more Mafia videos.
Its like they didnt playtest it and just said fuck it
Or the testers were already too good at the game and wanted it harder ;)
that was an amazing video!
This was awesome! There has not been single video from you Phil that I did not enjoy!
Regarding this mission, I always found the driving mission before the actual race to be much harder for some reason....perhaps because of the way the city of Lost Heaven was designed!?
Oh yes! But at least it was possible to try different routes with less police, for example. But I also had to try that one multiple times until I succeeded and was yearning for more 3rd person shooting. But nope! 😅
@@PixelProphecy you did not enjoy driving like a madman in this frustrating mission? Well good news here is another one that is even more frustrating! Hope you are happy.
Precisely! 😂
Playing definitive edition on the classic mode it took me atleast 30 tries. Then the turret mission zoinkies....
I recently got the Mafia trilogy and was warned by multiple people about the race mission and how frustratingly difficult it is. Really wasn’t looking forward to it, especially since I’m already rather crap at driving in games. When the mission came up, I was absolutely dreading it.
Strangely and luckily enough, I ended up beating it first time. Pretty sure it was complete luck though because I took a corner too fast and instead of crashing and flipping over, my car just bounced off the side and rocketed down the track. Got me pretty far ahead of the other cars and was able to win by just driving carefully after that. I’m glad I got lucky because I have no patience with missions I keep failing constantly.
Just finished the race on Extreme yesterday in what is probably my 100th playthrough. I couldn't do it on the first try, nor the 2nd, nor the 3rd, but overall it didn't take long. It took waaaaaaay faster than my first playthrough. Originally, I was playing the un-patched first release. I'm beginning to suspect that the original race was harder than the patched one on Extreme. My time lap time with a keyboard on PC is 1.29.5-1.30.0. I never realized you can cut the hairpin, though! Or maybe I did try it 20 years ago but didn't think it was worth it.
great video!
Quality work, didn't expect it to be perfectly honest. Very handy to show us all the games and music used in the video at the end, I can't think of anyone else who has done that well.
I don't know how much you were screwing around and if you honestly needed that many tries. Of course one can have a lapse in judgement when leading by such a margin, but to be honest you could have been snailing your way to the finish one on that fifth lap.
I must be the only one in history who enjoyed this mission. I actually used to race and try to beat lap and race times, I kid you not. Stringing together multiple victories in a row, was certainly not a problem.
Perhaps that's why in the Definitive Edition, I managed to complete the race on Classic difficulty in about fifteen minutes. Albeit the mission is inferior in the new game in my opinion, among other things, you have the abysmal ram feature. In my opinion, the person who gave it the green light for the game should hang.
Thanks for watching and the comment! And none of my failings were deliberate, I decided to make a video out of my many attempts after the fact 😅 I haven't played the new Mafia game yet but I am curious to find out about how the race handles. Regardless, I don't agree that the person who kept the ram feature in "should hang". I know you were joking but still that's not cool.
@@PixelProphecy I didn't mean that the person should literally be murdered or tried and hung. Not sure why you're so up tight about it, did one of your relatives hang?
The person should be fired, because the implementation of the feature in part destroys the game. It's clear that they didn't actually play the game themselves.
I have literally Played the Mission in the Remake for 2 and a half hours. AND I'VE STILL NOT FINISHED
Glad you took a break to watch my video. 😊
@@PixelProphecy i got it. Took me 3 whole hours!
Awesome video :D
Thanks! 😁
0:14 Do you hear that high-pitched tone? Or do I have tinnitus?
You're not, I put it in intentionally because analog TVs used to emit this 15625 Hz tone as it's their horizontal scan rate (at least in the PAL broadcast system).
@@PixelProphecy That is 'attention to detail' to the nth degree!
Pixel Prophecy
You are scaring me....
Ive always been really fond of this mission and its the ones setting it up beforehand. I remember when i first played the mission in question. I was in awe as id never seen earlier era representation of racing in gaming at that time. I still really like doing this mission wen i occasionally plat through it. Once you get it down to a fine art you can be an absolute vintage sick c×nt beast
I actually remember being quite good at this mission when I was a kid. Playing this mission on the DE on classic difficulty makes me wonder how I ever managed to do it to begin with
Who made the amazing TV and PC models?
And OMG the race track segment, your editing is on point. Great video Enjoyed it a lot!
Thank you so much! The TV I bought from Turbosquid (www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/sony-trinitron-kv-13tr28-1995-3d-1564778 ), as well as the PS2, but the PC I modeled mostly myself, only the lamp and desk organizer in that scene aren't mine :)
@@PixelProphecy Amazing work, BTW I did my first ever Ludum Dare two months ago after binge watching all your post mortems, so thanks for inspiration and great content.
fun fact: all ai drivers had names of members of deathmetal bands
😮🤘
Yeah I was struggling with this as well, after 5 or 6 attempts I just turned the tire grip up to max which made the race quite easy as the car became much more controlable
Wieder mal ein sehr aufwendiges Video! Toll gemacht. Hab Mafia nie gespielt.
Dafür icq, winamp & napster benutzt :P
Vielen Dank! Und freut mich, dass du kleinen 2000er-Nostalgie-Ostereier gefunden hast :)
@@PixelProphecy Kommt mir vor als wäre es gestern. Btw: Du könntest mal ein Video über die Intro-Szene bzw. die Intros (1kb, 2kb, ..) von damals machen.
I just came back from playing the remake version of that level. wanna give a a applause to those who grew up with the OG and manage to beat the OG version of the stage.
it took me 2 years in remake, so 1 hour doesn't sounds that bad.
I raged at te remake version and am horrified to know it was worse in the original
Mafia was a good game but it took me months to complete that sodding level (it was pre-patch and I put the game aside for a few months). I only stuck with it because I enjoyed the earlier missions overall. That missions is sole reason why I never returned to the game after beating it.
I don't know how about original but in definitive edition on hardest difficulty I beated it in first try with a keyboard, it didin't seem hard how everybody saying, but I say why peoples saying its hard cuz of how unstable everything feels, but if u try it gentle and play it like a real racing simulator, I would say definitely its easy, but again, I am in to sim racing games, so maybe that makes a difference.
It is hard
I swear comment's like this are so stupid lol
Oh darn the early 00's nostalgia. I liked the free roam in Mafia but I'm really bad at driving in GTA-likes...
I'm sure that I was only good at driving in Saints Row.
Having played countless hours of Dirt Rally, I actually found this stage easy. If you have your racing line right and know your breaking points it’s not that hard. I wish I had basic racing knowledge back then.
First time on this channel, love it! However I think it was really unfair to do your attempts on patched Mafia - you should try this on unpatched version. Eighth attempt? I've done like 20 attempts a day for 7 days to get through this mission on original version.
The patched version was the only one I had and I take every help I can get. I vaguely recall being really frustrated as well when I beat the game in 2002 but I don't recall how many attempts it took me in the end. Forgetfulness is bliss! 😅
Good job on the editing and I'm glad you made this because I honestly thought the remake was difficult on classic difficulty, glad to learn the original was just as or more difficult. I had to turn down the difficulty just by one and I beat it on the first try but I tried for probably 2 hours and I could never get 1st. Infuriating game but still fun.
Glad you enjoyed it! I haven't played the remake yet, I need to distance myself from the original a little longer first 😅
the secret was to release the gas on the curves.. My dad who played lots of F1 games taught me that and next try I beat it.
I wish I could relate to this pain, but as a lover of racing games, this is very easy for me. If I play safe, I drive consistently about 1:30 lap times without any cuts. I managed to overtake some of them by one lap too. Also you can overtake all the opponents at the start so it's pretty much guaranteed win every time. Changing difficulty didn't really change anything for me, I guess they drive faster at extreme.
In the remake there's actually some racing, as you can't just overtake everyone immediately, but I won that on first try at classic difficulty. I'd say that the remake is more forgiving if you do mistakes though and the driving is easier.
Yeah I found it very easy also. And actually alot of fun, if u know racing lines then its very basic
Imagine some other hypothetical game. It introduces itself as being one thing then becomes something different 5 missions in, and this novelty mission has completely stopped you from playing the rest of the game.
Yes it is that bad. Car pulling me left and right for no damn reason
I just found about your channel and I'm really impressed. Thank you for putting so much effort to entertain us by making these high quality videos.
Glad you enjoy it! And thank you for watching and commenting! 😊
I'm pretty sure that Mafia is my favorite game of all times. I played it first time in 2004. Racing mission was a nightmare. Eventually beat it. But it took me least a few weeks. Maybe 1-2 tries a day and i gave up. But i still remembre the feeling when i got it through - butterflyes in stomache etc.
I play Mafia least once a year, and racing mission, even on extreme level is sooo easy now😅
in a game where driving feels pretty janky this race was a horrible idea for it to be mandatory to beat if gta 5 has too much traction control this game has the oppsite which makes sense given the bike tires they drive on but even on controller at about 25% acceleration theres still just no traction its like youre driving on ice the wheelspin doesnt even give any forwards momentum i feel like gta iv did it right where the suspension although seemingly too soft was actually the most realistic as cars are just heavy on another note as the definite edition forces you to use simulation driving when playing on classic difficulty it makes the race especially horrible because the tiny micro adjustments done to the steering in arcade driving mode are impossible for a human to consistently do on controller to outpace the AI let alone worry about the traction while trying to follow the racingline and do overtakes
Ahahahah, cool video, thanks)
Fev days ago, I tried Mafia remaster on ps5, and faced with tis mission on classic difficulty.
As form me, it was much harder, than on non-patched version of the Mafia from my childhood...
Maybe you can remaster this video with remastered mafia? :D
Oh nice idea! 😊
Next vid when
i just realized that the very thing u modeled you used here! bravo!
Thank you! Cheers! 😊
I’m 14 it only took 20 tries and all of my brain functions
What are the soundtracks used in this video?
I credited all the music in the video in the credits roll at the very end :)
@@PixelProphecy ok thanks
Also, keep it up with all the great music. Love jazz.
Thanks for watching. I hope you managed to beat the race and finished the game!
Is the unpatched version harder than patched extreme race?
I think it was, yes :)
Fun fact, mafia has some pretty good driving physics for the time but driving on keyboard is a pain.
Wow.. just wow! Absolutely fantastic and engaging video! I had some great laughs at your 'top gear' style track description .. the easter eggs 'pony' and other were great.. renders were mind blowing.. you really transported me back to my 2002 gaming era too! Love the little bit of the 'behind the scenes' footage you included in the credits as well, as it's always amazing to see the effort you put into your creations. Thank you so much for making this video and sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it and (as always!) for noticing all the details! That I transported you back to 2002 was what I was working towards to with the CGI living room and PC shots. So having all that work appreciated makes me a happy pony! 😊
This video is an absolute masterpiece.
Thank you so much! It was a lot of work, so I'm glad it paid off! 😅
@@PixelProphecy I can tell! Amazing editing, design... Everything. By the way, was that Blender that you used to create the computer and desk scene? It looked incredible.
@@ryanscottnix Thank you so much! And I use Maya/Arnold for my CGI but this and more could have been done with Blender just as well :)
The production value of this video is amazing!! Its crazy you're not more popular
Thank you so much! My video output is extremely low because it takes so much time to produce one 😅
In the definitive edition, it took me like 20 tries on hard mode. Shit is Ridiculous!
If you use the shortcut and reset your car immediately it counts as a lap. I used that cheat as a baby child to skip this mission.
Will you try mafia 2 remastered version?
Probably. I am also curious about the Mafia 1 remaster! :)
@@PixelProphecy Remake you mean : ). You could make some detailed comparison videos.....
@@samfkt I will definitely play it and record my play-through. I won#t promise anything beyond that 😅 Then again, I never plan my video topics far ahead... ;)
The only reason it was bad was because people were expecting GTA clone, with arcade-like behaviour of cars. Meanwihle Mafia was originaly supposed to be racing simulator, with fully functional racing mechanics, like oversteer, understeer and grip (and frequent lose of it if you werent prepared). Combined with the fact that your car was overpowered cigar on thin wheels and behaved like overpowered cigar on thin wheels, you got your issues. Once you got used to this fact and treated it like racing game, the race was actually pretty fun. I was actually pretty displeased when devs added racing minigames to console only. What was pain in the ass though, was collecting cars in extreme ride , with their limitations and extra rules.
Also fun fact: There used to be a shortcut that lets you skip almost half of each lap, making the race laughably easy, but devs patched it out. In the very same patch they introduced difficulty settings.