Mind you this man says "we wuz kidz"... Meanwhile all the other videos are of him as an adult proudly claiming its ok to beat, ab*se, grape women. Dude is a sick individual & now hes running youth programs. Shit is wild. SOME Redpill folks preach accountability, judging women for their pasts but they cozy up to literal grapists and laugh about their crimes. KEEP THE SAME ENERGY FOR GROWN ASS MEN WHO ARE GUILTY OF FAR WORSE than any of the women you routinely judge.
As a father of 2 young teenage girls this makes my stomach sick. Fresh & Fit are joking about rape, abuse and conning women. They don't seem to ever hold men responsible. The truly frightening thing is that young men and women are listening to guys like this. Aba N Preach - please keep doing what you are doing, it is needed.
@@TopRawMen Yeah, they just had another video with Waka Flocka before this one, where they talk about grape being a myth and how it isn't real. In that video about 6 girls leave that room and while they left Fresh and Fit just kept trashing the girls saying they were soft, they were ruled by emotions, told em to hurry up and leave fast, and tried to shame em by keeping the cameras on them while they left. But when Waka Flocka left halfway through the show, no comments where made and thanked him for coming. Also just wanted to note every girl that left, left voluntarily because they wanted to, for some reason Fresh&Fit claim they kicked em out.
I wonder if he'd have same reaction if it was a white dude talking bout grap ov a black girl with his friends??? I doubt he'd have the o it was different times attitude???
@@tonythetiger1600 he wouldn’t care because a he doesn’t have female friend and he doesn’t like black women. If you ever watched them you would learn that. They only date white women.
I encountered a guy like this before. Thank goodness my dad was a marine and taught me how to fight them off smarter not harder. The next time he grabbed my behind, I broke his wrist. May seem overboard, but this idea that you can invade my space and use my body without my consent doesn’t fly with me. These idiots are going to meet the wrong woman one day who is going to push back like I did. It’s not about feminism it’s survival.
As a representative of the old lady class, it irritates me that they said, "Oh, it was another time." Don't get it into your head that we thought this was acceptable thirty years ago. I would have been horrified about this thirty years ago. In fact, I worry that this generation has lost the idea that sex is supposed to be an expression of love.
As someone from this generation, yes. We lost the idea of that years ago. For me I understand that sex is the highest form of intimacy that you can have with another human being but from even when i was 14+ I could see how sexual charged, directionless and degenerate people were being towards it and while I found people around me at the time attractive, I'd lose all interest in associating with them if i discovered they were conducting in this degeneracy. I figured why bother with people who couldn't ruminate on the meanings of the things they engaged in and what they meant for them.
@@KingNirada I'm a Christian, but we have a number of people who aren't Christians who hang out at our church, and this is exactly why. As an old lady, you will never be sorry for choosing not to engage in nihilistic relationships. You're doing the right thing.
I think it's a mixed bag. Nobody confuses assault with consent but between erotic content, gold singing red pill, blue pill, blahs blahs blahs, some people definitely dont boink for love. Not most just some.
People in this generation are degenerates for this kind of behavior. To them sex isn't about love or intimacy, it's about selfish pleasure and it's sick.
@@frankz9251 bruh please tell me what you meant by this I am dying to know- did you think he was saying painful literally as in like he had to look away like when you look at the sun or some shit!?!?! Bruh what are you on man you cannot believe this your mental health would be so fucked
This happened to a girl that I knew in the 90's. She is still so damaged she has never been able to get over it. It ruined her kids life's because she will never be right. That dude should be in prison for the rest of his life
@@user-Zachary123he ruined her life, rape is reprehensible and often rapists reoffend and end up raping tons of people. Also, once they get out of prison they are more likely to start murdering the women too, thinking it’ll avoid them getting caught. Rehabilitating rapists is next to impossible.
This ain’t it. You don’t sit there and laugh at that shit. You immediately call that man out, shame him, condemn him and “Frank Castle” him, if you have any integrity whatsoever. The fact that he’s comfortable enough to even share that shit with them is crazy. This is the worst. Edit: Also, as a current LEO with 20+ years experience, the fact that Myron as a former LEO didn’t push back on C. White makes me think that he would also rubber stamp every corrupt, excessive, irresponsible thing anyone LEO does, and this is a huge problem among our ranks…the ranks of men (specifically black men), and the ranks of LEOs.
I'm a woman and I really get a lot if comfort from this channel. I appreciate that you are shocked and disgusted by the trash these monsters talk. The comment section also gives me hope and comfort in an increasingly shudder inducing internet
H Moneygetter He VERY CLEARLY was gloating?? The fuck you talking bout? He LITERALLY laughed about it on the F&F podcast, then made several other videos, GLOATING, telling people to "be mad at that" and laughing. Told people he believed a woman needs to be beat or verbally abused from time to time. he must be your hero for you to ignore ALL of this...
This happened to a ex of mine, we had broken up and she went to a party and was gangraped, there was a undercover police officer at the party and busted everyone there, those men aint gonna see the sun ever again, 3 drug charges, assault on an officer and multiple charges of sexual assault.
That girl leaving the podcast was so brave, I don’t think ppl even realize how hard that must’ve been to do the right thing when surrounded by a bunch of idiots and yes men. For real, ppl just become sheep or very quiet in situations like that but she spoke up and stood up. Mad respect.
I'm actually glad this happened - F&F and the likes always claim plausible deniability when it comes to SA - now their tolerance for grape and SA is out in the open for anyone to see.
Do you wanna know the funniest thing of all? Myron, has on countless separate occasions pushed hard on the notion that an average 14 year old boy would f*ck any grown w*man up. How with this in mind can he sit there and say; 'who's fault is that?' LOL when women make the case that sometimes it's not possible to 'say no right then and there and leave' ? OPEN contradiction. Myron: 'Any non MMA trained woman would get taken out by any 14 year old boy that's been through puberty' Also Myron: 'Women should be able to stand up for themselves and say no and leave, otherwise who's fault is that?' This alone if anything just proves barely any of what he says is rooted in reality or truth. He just reads from a script or says what he needs to to keep with the fanboy pleasing narrative that is to dismiss men of ANY blame or that word these gimmicky gurus like to use; 'accountability'.
@@Mr16Terence wheres your proof? lmao just anecdotal evidence is a little bit different that literal recordings of him saying fucked up shit and as we saw in this video openely having a rapist on and not pushing back in the slightest? open your eyes lol see more than you want to see dude theres still hope for you
Back in 1998, I had to save a family member from guys like this. I warned her before she went to her new 'boyfriend's' house that he was a bad guy and I knew his type in high school. I met him once and immediately saw right through him and told her privately that he would use her, but she didn't listen. She was a 'strong and intelligent' 18-year-old who 'can make decisions for herself without me telling her who to date'. That same night, at 3am, I got a frantic call begging me to come to one of the city's worst neighborhoods to pick her up. When I got there, 7 guys were standing around her. Two of them I saw had guns tucked in their pants. By some miracle, I was able to convince them to let her go. I stroked their egos about being 'real players who can get better women', talked about family, and brought up being a devout Christian since they all had cross chains (I'm not religious). When we drove away, I told her to learn from this. Look beyond the flashy shit, fast talk, and good looks. I am not looking to blame women by sharing this story. I'm sharing to say please, ladies, pay attention to the signals these low-life a$$holes give off from the beginning. Most men would never rape or run trains on you. Good men who will respect you are out there! And PLEASE listen to family that you know cares for you and had always been there for you. Decades later, that night is still scarred in my memory.
@@Anw4rr10r she's good now and has a decent long term relationship. Now in her 40s, she's matured into dating a stable regular man. But for at least 7 to 10 years after that incident back then, she still dated some horrible guys. My advice saved her from being gang-graped, that I know of, but it didn't stop her from continuing to date thugs, players and pretty boys who didn't last. She did the typical 'where are the good men' whine for years. Her bad choses strained her relationships with me and the rest of the family for more than a decade. But things are good now. Thanks for asking.
The fact Myron used to be a federal agent and is laughing it up with a self-snitcing 0ffend3r, telling old tales of his SA, speaks volumes about what kind of character Myron is... That's messed up.
"WHY DIDNT SHE PUT UP A FIGHt?" A lot of you won't even fight a dude ONE ON ONE, pulling out guns at the smallest insult. She suppose to fight a GROUP OF DUDES? She's suppose to fight them and pray that don't bury her?
At my prom, 8 years ago, I saw my neighbour and childhood friend heading out with a guy, who was much older than us and was there to accompany his* (edit) cousin. I am glad that i followed them out, because something in my mind told me that it was not right. After I confronted them, my friend looked totally confused, somehow sleepy and the dude told me that she didn't look fine and he was going to bring her home. I told him that since she was my neighbour and my father was on the way to pick me up, I would just take her with us. He tried to play " the gentleman" and told me to not worry, but I insisted and I reminded him that my father was about to arrive at any minute. That was a lie, but he somehow believed it and left. Then I called my father and we brought my friend home. Later that night she had a seizure and was rushed at the hospital by her parents. It turned out she was drugged. We think that the dude, who was sitting in the same table with us, put something on her drink while we were dancing or in the toilette. We live in a dangerous world....
Yeah so you call a guy up for an interview not a debate and when he talks about his life you tell him to go in a time machine and change his past lol. Women are being debated men are being interview on that show. Aba can't seem to tell the difference..
He just said “why don’t women just leave when they don’t feel safe”…she said “I don’t feel comfortable “ he treats her like a leper and ridicules her for saying she doesn’t feel safe …point proven of why some women feel stuck in certain situations … y’all did a great review and called the thing the thing 🙏
Fr. Some situations aren’t always “exit-able” its hilarious to me that these people think a woman has turned up to a party knowing they will be attacked or something. These men have continuously proved they are immature with little to zero understanding of the world and have shown they dont know the difference between a “ideal” scenario compared with “realistic” scenarios. A realistic scenario would be that many woman do try to leave but they get held against their will and a ideal scenario would be that the attackers would just let the victim leave better yet there wouldnt be an attack 😂. How they cant realise this is shocking.
Thank You for THIS! I raised 2 (amazing) sons on my own. I understand the injustices towards both males and females. Hatefulness, predatory behavior and stupidity isn't gender specific! I really love watching y'all. I bet your parents are proud and your woman is grateful; well Preach's anyway, LOL, jus playin' XO Aba
@@femmefatale71 Yes. Let’s just ignore the stigma that men face if they were to report any type of sexual assault or behavior that doesn’t get reflected in those statistics as well…
@@femmefatale71Recently I read about a 31 year old woman getting pregnant by a 13 yr old boy. His whole life is destroyed he's depressed and was taken advantage of, she literally lured him in and graped him. Not only that shes not doing any jail time for her crime because shes pregnant and will have to care for the child when it's born. If the roles were reversed that dude would be in prison so Gad damn fast it'd make your head spin. She will probably try to get child support from him too when he gets older. Why is that ok? Why do you condone that behavior and act like only men can commit such crimes? No accountability whatsoever. This shit cld happen to anyone.
@@airmanjoe 97% of assaults are committed by men. Ignoring the gender aspect is dishonest and inhibits investigators. You can condemn all abuse without being wilfully ignorant to the gendered aspect of the crime.
@@beyondthesacrosanctbreeze Male abusers go free every day. Brock Turner for one. You want to ignore the gender aspect of the crime yet are happy to acknowledge it when it suits you.
Probably laughing out of awkwardness? though, I know I'd be fucking awkward if that got said. would probably have to leave the room in the middle of it. Edit: I'm sorry, I just got through most of the video now. I'd 10/10 leave. Holy fuck.
@@Shawn45able they not laughing out of awkwardness . I thought Myron was a big badass he should’ve frank castled his ass. They loved this shit & eating it all up
@@Shawn45ableWhat kind of Masculine men who proclaim themselves to be the KANGZ of masculine masculinity freezes up like a 6 year old when someone says something harmful and criminal like this? Even a 3 year old boy will immediately call you out for saying bad words as soon as they hear them because they know it’s wrong to cuss! These men AGREE with this rhetoric. They are proud that someone else came on to say it. They like this guy and agree with him. When they disagree with people, they don’t smile. They kick them tf out of the room immediately. They agree with this guy
When that woman was talking about how some women can't say "no", people need to understand that when faced with danger, it's not just fight or flee, but sometimes people freeze. I took a sef defense course for women and part of the course was us walking alone in the darkened training room where he would jump out at us. Some of us fought, some ran, and some just froze up and couldn't move. Did the women who froze up want to be attacked? No. Everyone thinks they know how they'll react in a situation until it happens to them.
@@Waterbug1591 people try to block it out because of shame, or blame that they were in that situation or could have done more. And lots of women dont go to police because of attitudes like yours. they wont be believed. Conviction rates back that up. especially if they know their attacker or person who set them up. and if its 2 or 3 men plus, guess what? that 2or 3 people who have same alibis against the girls. 3 men say "she agreed" against her 1 statement. Unless supporting physical evidence (severe external /internal injuries), this wont make court.
@@Waterbug1591 A lot of people get robbed and dont go to the police, its that false accusation or just lack of hope that the police will do anything? Unless the girl knows a lot of details about the guy who raped her she cant do much, even with DNA test they cant just magically track the guy
@@Waterbug1591 you must be a caveman lmfao maybe once your brain evolves and maybe if you had experienced rape yourself you would understand why people don’t go to the police. don’t just assume it’s false
I’m a month late and likely not your target audience. I’m a mum of two young boys and an aunty to teenage boys. Concern about what all my boys could be watching led me to content like these videos and it’s been heartbreaking. From a woman of this world and as one who cares for the men I have a hand in making, thank you to you two for using your platform to call out this rubbish behaviour. God bless ❤
Not only is he telling on himself but he’s loud and proud. Plus, he turned people into drug users against their will. Hopefully one of his victims recognizes him. This is his confession.
The thing that people don’t realize is that he did these things when he was a teenager and he’s already been to jail for it. I suspect that A&P will come back with another video to clarify where they were wrong.
@@pjbpiano it doesn’t matter tf. The fact that he’s talking about it proudly makes him weird. Not to mention, being a teenager shouldn’t be an excuse. Just because he went to jail for it doesn’t mean he should be exonerated for it. Drugging and SA is wrong period. No matter how long ago it was. That talks about his morals and his character. Bragging about it as an adult shows he still lacks those morals and character.
@@Mama.973 as I said, these things are said in a context. None of you seem to have the context. You are content to make your judgements based on the clips you have seen here and that makes you less capable of actually understanding what is going on. CW has several beefs with rappers and many important members of the black American online community for the same reason. Eventually, people get the context and then change their tune.
Birds of a feather, flock together. Fresh and Fit didn't have any pushback on that dude because they either admired what he was doing, related to what he was saying, wanted him to keep giving content without resistance, or all of the above. No matter why they didn't, they made themselves look just as terrible as that guy.
Fresh and fit , especially Fit was the desk boy at the FBI, who got some money and now thinks he's alpha cause he was an ex Fed... He's a clown and a lot of the things he does is to set up these Women and Men he is a opposition...
Yup…see I learned a lot from Fresh&Fit. Sometimes they make “good points”…but they on some different energy that I don’t really fuck with. I get where they’re coming from sometimes, but bruh this video made them look bad. Red pill….when you think about it is full of shit if you don’t know balance. They don’t teach balance and actual respect. Men are superior and give them a license to cheat on their women since it’s in a man’s “nature” to cheat.
I think they were scared to say something. Like Aba said they said “AYO!?” Like they knew what he was saying wasn’t right but wasn’t man enough to put their foot down and actually confront him on that BS
Yep they make a big difference and really care 😃 aba n preach definitely didn’t make this for content to make money ! Not like the videos of CW are already out there for everyone to see! What would we do without our online hero’s Apple n Peach!
@Gengar Phantom69 nah mf, she's right this shit is vile and aba and preach are right. And you got the mentality of a fucking 5 year old if you think any of this shit is right. And that's insulting to 5 year olds. Can't believe you would even say dumb shit like that under this comment. But hey a dumbass gonna dumbass.
@@iren5792 1- If you want a high value man you must accept he want a lot of options, he worked to build his empire and you are just a leeches coming to suck on it, deal with it like Beyoncé did, be smart. But if you want an average 45k man that will be loyal because he can’t have options then good for you. 2- The Grapist numbers are not as high as people think, sure people get grapes but in low number , to the point they are statistical insignificant hence why is an irrelevant issue but keep believing that feminist propaganda, invest in chewy cause” you will have a house full of cats.
"Women should say no and leave if they are uncomfortable or feel like there in a bad situation". Woman: "I'm uncomfortable and I'm going to leave". Fresh and Fit: *And I took that personally*
Smoker X, you’d “die” for fresh and fit?? Really? Maybe try being more precise with your words. Less hyperbolic (look it up). You’re a guy. Why are you hyping up other guys like that? Especially on this topic of ‘grape’, that fresh and fit are condoning? Just for this alone, Aba and Preach are on higher ground.
@@AnovaLisaDragonfly I'm being literal. I would actually die for them if they told me to. I didn't see fresh and fit condoning rape in this video or any video.
As a woman who was taken advantage of in the past, this was very troubling to watch. As much as I understand the need for men to get back in touch with their masculinity, this is pushing it way too far. I wish young men had better masculine figures to look up to. A real masculine man wants to protect the vulnerable, he does not seek to take advantage of them. Thank you Aba and Preach for calling these men out. We need more men like you in this world. Edit : Thank you for all the love and support in the comments. And for the men victim-blaming, I hope you find God. Abuse is never acceptable. So many girls are taken advantage of in their younger years and the fact that you think they should be blamed for it is utterly disgusting.
I'm so sorry for what happened to you. This isn't masculinity, not even a corrupted version of it. People like this guy are cowardly predators. They choose targets they know can't fight back and do whatever they want. Nothing masculine about that. Just giving into the worst aspects of predatory human nature, an animal with no self control or regard for another person.
I’m sorry for what happened to you. Masculinity doesn’t mean you take advantage of people, in fact it’s the absolute opposite. Men that take advantage of women are not masculine, they are the most insecure low lives around.
im so glad you made a video about this, i’ve watched countless fresh and fit podcast videos and this really proves what kind of people they are. if they are willing to laugh, protect, and be associated with that man then i can’t imagine what they have done themselves. i hope that all the girls that go on that show stay safe and don’t fall for any of the shit they say. ❤
What are you talking about? Didn't you just hear what preach said near the beginning of the video? Saying that not all females want trains. Dude, don't tell me that a female doesn't want a train and then continues to ride it. 😂
@@errmack3004 This right here is why you so stupid, stupid. Go take a English comprehension course, stupid. You speak despite missing the whole point. You just hear whatever you want to.
This dude sounds like an absolute imbecile and an evil man at the same time. Special places in prison for men like this. Maybe he will feel what it's like on the other side some day!
I remember when I was teenager, my mom gave me the "talk" and it included a story about a girl from her college dorm being set up in the 80s. It happens and is a legitimate fear many girls/women have when linking up with a guy at his place. Hearing that guy boast about what he did makes my skin crawl. You two did a good job rationalizing why a woman wouldn't be able to fight back in a train situation even if she wanted to. The fact that he is working with the youth is appalling. At least he's dropping names. So much respect for the lady who got up and left. That fucking grapefruit duo is unwilling to learn or shift perspectives, let alone practice empathy and sympathy. They are high key suspect now if they weren't already. I need to do a mental cleanse now.
"You should say no right then and there", and assert your boundaries. In the last clip, the girl politely asserts her boundaries, then they get pissed off at her🤦🏾♂️
Agreed...How can a woman fight or scream when at least one of those monsters would gladly snap her neck or beat her to a pulp for saying no? I was a mentor in college, and many of the young ladies were unwilling participants in these "trains." I had one associate who bragged about having to turn over the bloody mattress after trapping a girl...She just wanted to sleep with the star college basketball player, but his friends came in and demanded oral, then once she gave in they pressured her to do a train. She dropped out the next semester.
Right! It's also funny how they expect a girl to say something right then and there when faced with a grapsist. Yet they say nothing then and there when they have a grapist talking about 🍇
The most heartbreaking aspect of this was going to the comment section of F&F's video and every single comment was "this man is an inspiration" and "we need more men like this" etc. Its horrible that people in world are this depraved and proud of it, but even more horrible that people praise them for it.
That's why guns & ammo disappeared from the shelves year before last. Some of us know exactly what's coming and how truly truly stupid some are. Like beyond stupid to the point of zombie brain
That's what always gets me when I hear about cases of rape, chid abuse, cruelty, whatever. The incident(s) themselves are bad in their own right and highly upsetting. But seeing people in comments praise the atrocities just makes it worse since it shows just how many of those same people are out there and how society doesn't care.
When I was 17, I went over to a house party with a “friend.” I remember getting handed a drink and then I woke up with him over me opening a condom. I looked up at him and passed out again. When I finally woke up in the morning there were three used condoms next to me. The only two points I could remember from that night were those two things (holding a drink and waking up briefly-I don’t even remember drinking the drink!). It actually took a long time to even realize I was roofied and raped because I had absolutely no memory of the experience. I hope this is the beginning and end of this red pill bs. We can all do better to hold ourselves accountable for our behavior and treat people the way we want to be treated; not raping people or shaming people for being raped seems like a great place to start.
Aba's line near the end of this vid is what makes me legit sad: "it really is some of the worst people on the planet leading young men." It's rough out here. I feel for young teenage boys and young adult men in the world right now. I do what I can with those who are around me, but guys like Tate are literally seen as "our leader" by droves of young men out there. It's wild.
I would rather chose to listen to reformed war criminal about how to be Good than listen to folks who claim to be good by just calling out the crimes the war criminal comited. Tate has done a lot to help this young boys believe it or not, he speaks in a way that Mordenity won’t like but most young boys and men will understand. Men especially young men must learn to be disliked and go against wut society calls good if they really want to find out the truth of things.
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 “by there fruit you shall known them” is an axiomatic truth. What is the outcome of tates philosophy?? What do those who listen to him turn out like?? I know what that is like for me, he brought clarity and focused mind back to me, I’ve been dealing with the uncertainty of manhood and what a man should be and do. He gave me resolutions in my belief,self image showed me the responsibility I owed my family and ancestors, he fueled my ability to tell myself a different but more enriching story about my life and what I could be. If this are the outcomes of his philosophy for me as a 21 year old I don’t really care what he has done. I’m not even white or a westerner but he was of grate help directing me back to my traditional beliefs. This are yet to be understood for men at large, but The boys who follow tate did not follow anyone before tate. The boys who gave up and followed the common consensus are not the one following tate. Tate being insanely popular is a testament to the lack of the young’s man psychic. And no Morden men can teach what he did because they’re part of the system that makes em sick.
I don't understand how Fresh and Fit can sit there and say "you should have just said no". Imagine if Fresh got jumped in the street by 7 buff guys and they wanted his wallet, image if he had said "🤓 well actually it's not ok to pressure someone to do something"
Funny you say that, I'm a little but homophobic but only because of Bearforce1. Bearforce1 are probably good guys who would probably help me get home safe if they found me drunk in a dark alley, but at first sight I'd still reach for a gun even if I didn't have one. Personally I think fearing Fleece Johnson doesn't count as homophobia, that's just common sense.
Nah. Afterwards, you can lock your cards and go to the dmv get a new ID and report the other one stolen. This example is a far less invasive. SA fucks ppl up for years. Can’t get incurable STIs from a stolen wallet.
Their excuse of “it was a different time back then”, still doesn’t make him any less of a sadistic grapist. I hope people wake up to the trash fit and fresh really is. This guy should be in jail.
Why would he be in jail? If white is openly talking about it he knows the statute of limitations is expired. While at the same time he is a comedian so it could just be a skit. Thats called dark humor.
The only thing I care about: is the police investigating and dragging them to a courtroom??? Despicable! Edit to Aba complaining about the women not "pushing back" on the podcast: as a woman, you don't openly confront a man who boasts about violating women for simple self preservation. You are weaker and slower, so you just wait for the next opportunity to silently exit the dangerous situation to not mark yourself as the next victim. When you're safe, then you call the cops.
Opposite. The video got views and his paycheck gives him an insensitive to continue being disgusting. He then has young boys watching thinking it's the best way to be, that boy grows up to be a tate type and the cycle repeats. It's horrific. Edit: i fully agree with how the girl handled herself too. I think aba forgot to take into account women aren't him/men.
A&P never disappoint. more men should hold each other accountable, as should women. there are so many great man out there and clowns like F&F and their guest are giving them bad rep and honestly second-hand creating incel culture. i’m grateful to have a loving, kind and protective man for a husband who is a good role model for our daughter. there are a lot of men like that out there, but damn, with the noise that F&F and circuses alike make, it’s difficult to know they exist.
Fresh and Fit have always been trash and always will be trash. They wh*re themselves out to the lowest of the low and it will only get worse. Men like them single handedly perpetuate the most disgusting things for views. "Who picked the men" they wake up every day and choose to be garbage.
At my house we are "red pill" people and every man in my house was yelling at the TV and was super triggered. It's not a fair exchange to "feel safe" but we absolutely all feel some type of way now that f/f claim to be red pill leaders. No one can come back from this
I came across him talking about 🍇ing asian women and babies on twitter, and surprisingly many of the comments were in support of him, and even agreeing with him. It was heartbreaking to see💔
Charleston White. Yeah, I’ve heard of him for a couple of years. I watched vids of him explaining how he would constantly sue his jobs and win due to OSHA violations. Really funny stuff. But this, holy shit. This needs to be shared.
I bet at least 3 of your sisters are over 190 pounds and baby mamas... chill out those type of women don’t get enough attention and being rape is their fantasy 😂😂😂😂
Y’all remember that woman last year who came out and said Myron was a creep and wanted to force himself on her? Yeah I’m starting to believe her based on the things he and his buddy say on camera. Imagine what they think and say off-camera!
There’s a dm convo that was leaked with Myron and this girl. Hé invited her to come on the show and she agreed and then proceeded to tell her she had to sleep with him if she wanted to be on. She didn’t want to and told her she couldn’t come otherwise. I don’t think he does this with all the girls but I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the only way he gets girls tbh
This has to be a joke... As a woman who has experienced sexual assault, I can say that it is an extremely traumatizing experience, and the fact that they are laughing about it makes me feel physically ill. I am feeling an overwhelming amount of anger as I watch this video, he literally confessed to r*pe why isn't he in jail right now?!?!?
F n F possibly had a lapse of judgement inviting this d..head on n the amount of push back from everyone else will reconsider themselves into making choices as to who they wanna associate themselves with.
I’m glad you said it preach, it needed to be addressed and this is one of the main reasons I find this channel so genuine and comforting. Your emotional intelligence is very high and like someone else in the comments said you’re so tapped in it’s refreshing in this day and age especially with the red pill nonsense. The shit CW said gave me a visceral reaction hearing a man say that kinda shit just makes me gutted bro. Like damn at one point I thought he was a good man who was trying to support the community and make change but after that I can’t even believe he said that and posted it on the internet and still has a platform Aba made a great point, when they said to that woman “ who’s fault is that “ but just laughed and joked with CW when he openly admitted to it says a lot like more than words could
I remember seeing this man talk about gang culture in the black community and agreed with him. I had no idea that he was such a degenerate like this. It blows my mind how people can do shit like this.
Myron: "A 14 year old boy who has gone through puberty can beat a grown woman up." Also Myron: "If a woman doesn't want to smash, she should just say no and leave." Woman: "But not all girls can say no and walk away." Myron: "And whose fault is that?" This dude is wild. Women can be overpowered by an average man so easily, he even said so himself, but yet, if a woman isn't able to say no, it's automatically her fault. It's only ever a woman's fault in Myron's eyes. Men can do no wrong, even when another man flat out admits to graping women. This guy is sick in the head and should just come out of the closet already.
It’s almost like we can’t help stupid choices out of our hands, I’ll be the minority here and say I stand only against grape of minors that’s the only way I’ll feel bad, but we can’t keep sticking up for women who choose they partners and face consequences no matter what they be
@@sleepisthecousinofdeath7395And if she's drugged or up against a group of men? I guess she just has to telepathically say no or hope they don't hold her down and do it anyway. Sure, that's gonna work.
I was the one who LEFT ! And my girls left with me right after. FUCK THAT ! Then they told me to go cry 😂 titled the podcast saying 6 girls got kicked out but we all willing left 🤦🏻♀️
Proud of you for leaving. These incels can’t hold you down. Myron & Walter are the kings of incels. I can’t even imagine the skeletons in there closets. And the fact that Myron was a cop with this kind of mentality makes me wonder if he was dirty. As a woman who’s teen years were literal hell because I was considered pedo bait because I looked older than what I was, I clapped when you lead the way for the other girls leaving. Every situation I was in was me minding my own business & grown men old enough to be my dad would walk up to me. That logic Myron spews about women needing to be smarter made me sick. First time it happened I was 13. I was out walking me dog. Guy came up to me with his dog & blocked the sidewalk so I couldn’t walk away. He tried flirting & crap & then when he asked me out I refused him because I was 13. He was 34. When he found out my age after I asked him his, he got angry & gave me a black eye & a cracked skull. He hit me so hard. Worst part was his friends were across the street laughing. No one helped me. I walked back to my house bleeding & passed out on my front lawn. At 14 I was almost kidnapped by two men because they pulled up alongside me while I was walking my dog & I refused getting in there car. My dog saved my life by biting one. At 15 I met up with a classmate after school & we were flirting. I consented to the meetup but when he started trying to force himself on me I recanted & attempted to leave. That’s when he grabbed me, uppercut me in the stomach, tore my top off & tried to pull me into a bathroom to hurt me. A male janitor heard the noise & saved my life. Covered me with a towel too & helped me get home. Thankfully I had a hoodie in my nearby locker & I went home. Rumors started spreading about me from my attacker at school.
Part 2 I was bullied, i had hot soup thrown on me, people called me a slut. It was a nightmare. Worst part was I had a class with my attacker. I begged my teacher to switch seats with a boy. Only comfort I found was with the baseball team that had my brother & multiple male childhood friends on it. One day as I was doing my homework on the bleachers while the team practiced, I was approached by three girls, one happened to be the gf of the guy who attacked me, and they pulled me off the bleachers & beat me until the team came out & scared them off. That’s when I snapped & told the whole team what happened. My brother got quiet that night & when we went to bed, he snuck out. That morning he was quiet. Two days later the cops showed up to arrest my brother. I found out that the night he snuck out, seven of my male childhood friends got together because one of them knew my attacker. They went to his house, dragged him out, took him to a field nearby & beat him into a coma with baseball bats. In order to save my brother & friends I had to tell the cops what the guy did. They convinced me to press charges & I did. When my attacker was arrested, two of his friends tried to intimidate me after school. They followed me home & cornered me in an alley. They groped me, slapped me & threatened me. But it just made me angry. I was furious. Something inside me just snapped.-
Part 3 When the case went to trial, it was hell having to testify. His lawyer tried to paint me as a stupid teen slut. I was forced to take a rape kit by his legal team to prove he didn’t penetrate me but I had to tell everything. I showed every note he passed to me in class & everything we talked about. We almost lost the case until the school principle came forward with security camera footage. There was a camera above us & caught the whole thing on tape. Even the janitor came & testified. When we won the case, my attacker was sentenced to 10yrs. He got out last year & guess what happened to me. He messaged me on Instagram. I had a panic attack seeing his name. I was shaking. I wanted to find him & show him that I wasn’t that scared girl anymore. Imagine doing all that & still trying to contact a victim.
Part 4 But my hell didn’t stop there. At 16 I was groped by a man at the grocery store. When I shoved him off of me he punched me. Three male workers held him down until the cops arrived. At 17 I was at the movies & went to the bathroom while the movie was going. A man snuck into the bathroom & tried to force me into a stall. I had never had that adrenaline rush in my life but I used a self defense move my mom taught me & I jammed my thumbs into his eyes. I ran outside & alerted the employees & they called the cops. At 18 I was at a Target when a man came up behind me & forced himself on me. At that point my dad gave me a knife for protection & I stabbed him once. Guy tried to press charges on me but security cameras & witnessed went in my favor. At 19 I was punched by a man I rejected during a town festival we had every summer. I got knocked out. When I woke up my friends told me that the bikers who were at the festival came to my defense & beat up him & the two other guys he was with.
Part 5 I’m 30 now & things have changed for me dramatically. I don’t get approached anymore because I carry myself with an intimidating presence. I’m certified in self defense & I spent the night in a holding cell stabbing a man who put his hands on my teen cousin. These incidences changed me for the better because it showed me that men can’t be trusted but the true 1% men of the world, the real Alphas, are the men who defended & saved me all those years. Fresh & Fit are clowns & probably would be beaten up by the men in my family & the men I know. I long for the day when Twiddle Dumb & Tweedle Dumbass get put in there place because they’re brainwashing men. Thank God for men like Abba & Preach
I don't support that dude, but I refuse to hold any man accountable in their interactions with women until women hold women accountable in their interactions with men. None of you held Amber Heard accountable for her actions, Depp had to spend millions to get that. So what incentive exactly do we have to hold other men accountable when y'all won't hold yourselves accountable. Here's my position, y'all told me you are "strong and independent" my entire life. If you are so strong and independent, why would you need me to hold someone accountable, or intervene in a grape in progress, or even call the police for you. You told me you are strong and independent and there is no fathomable scenario in your life where you would ever need a man in any capacity. So if you don't need us, take care of your problems yourself.
@@Bonesawisready926 Because women (and men) should be supported and helped by their neighbor. That's how a community grows. This sh*t happens because people only look out for themselves. The whole "help yourself because you haven't helped me yet" is ridiculous. In this case, you literally say that it's okay that it's okay what he did because the woman put herself in the house with a psycho, that had psycho friends. It's like me saying that you deserve to have your house robbed and trashed because you chose to live next to a street... This is MY position.
@@Theprophet-n3m No, just saying I have no responsibility to protect women. My responsibility ends at not causing them harm. Learn to spot the grapist yourself, call the cops yourself, I have no incentive to help more than 2 or 3 women on this planet and those two or three I CHOOSE to protect when something happens.
The thought of waking up and being surrounded by a bunch of criminals with awful intentions is such a sickening and horrifying thought. I sympathize for any woman who has ever had to go through that. It wasn’t your fault. Edit: the amount of people victim blaming in the comments is sickening. Yes people should take precautions but a lot of the time, the crime is committed by people you trust. That kind of attitude towards victims is one of the very reasons why most cases aren’t reported.
I mean.....many of the girls hes talking about like to "hang with the badboys" literally putting their vulnerable selves around savages. If you walk into a lions den, are you gonna feel safe inside there with the gates closed? I don't understand how many young girls put themselves in such situations, like what do you think is goin to happen? they're criminals. They don't give af about your feelings. I'm not saying its right by any standard, just use common sense and things like this doesn't happen.
@@buy-gbl-online You’re resentment for women is seething. You got to let that go before it consumes you. Most women who get raped aren’t getting raped, because they’re hanging out with bad boys. Most of the times it’s a trusted “friend” or relative.
Thank you guys for exposing this man and the cowards on that podcast. These POS are disgusting. I have a teenage daughter, and I want her to see that not everyone you meet in life are genuine. I'm not saying all men are like that but I want her to be aware and cautious. She needs to know how dirty men like this guy think. Stay safe, ladies, especially young girls who are vulnerable.
I had the extreme priviledge to meet preach when was about to board his flight a few months ago. Man, it was so unexpected. I was mad about something that day, probably something i saw online or something that happened in my life but was very minor. As soon as i saw this man all of that went away. You guys are really a blessing man. I used to be RP and used to spew and accept everything i heard to a certain extent. Then, you all showed me the way. Its not that i went from blindly following one community to another, but you guys showed me how to really think for myself while being a decent individual and also respecting myself, despite the state of society. I say this because you guys can do a lot for the people that are still stuck in that toxic community we call the red pill. You guys keep it real and lead by example, which is why a lot of people will end up seeing the error of their ways eventually by watching your content. Stay blessed, glad i got to meet you Preach🙏🏽
Don’t forget this is just another RUclips channel with content creators that jump on anything that’s hot and only care about their own opinions. Considering fresh and fit are always viral.. who are Aba and preach constantly doing content on? 😅
@@selfimprovement3682 I mean it’s their job… it would be pretty stupid to not cater to the RUclips algorithm to get as much exposure as possible. I’m glad we have good people like Aba and Preach in this world.
Thank you for this video, guys, it makes me cry, honestly. That you are standing up for r*pe victims. Never heard any man have any kind of "passion" in their voice for that or standing up for us like this. Majority of men wouldn't r*pe themselves, but they also don't give much of a f*ck about if it happened to a woman.
@@Cobhammar Yeah, I hope I am wrong, for the sake of all other women out there. But in my personal experience it's like this. Waiting for the day a man will have an actual reaction to hearing about it, and not just a straight faced "I'm sorry that happened to you".
@@badgalirri Most men feel strongly about it, but they're not going to start crying to show you how they feel. Saying that they're sorry about what happened to you, is the most appropriate response.
@@War-Zone349 I don't know, I would feel much safer and more supported if they got visibly angry and said something like "I can't believe there are men who do these things! What a vile piece of shit and pathetic excuse for a man. You should know that this was not in any way or form your fault, and if you wanna talk about it you should know I am here for you whenever to listen and emphasize to the greatest extent. I want to learn from women what it is like to be a woman as to be able to be a better man myself." etc etc (especially the last sentence!!!) . I wanna feel like they actually care, like they wanna put an end to this disease of society, like they truly see it as a huge issue (bc it is). If all men who are against rape organized themselves better and voiced these things more I am sure some progress could be made in actually fighting the issue and making society safer for women. "Men loves to protect women" they say, but tbh I haven't really noticed... I am tired of "oh, but what did you wear?" and men trying to rationalize it and find some way to make it at least partially the womans fault. And then offer a straight faced "sorry that happened to you". Like yeah, that totally makes me feel safe and I want to open up to you now and I feel so supported and understood....... If a man told me he got raped, no way I could keep a straight face. I would be furious, my heart would break for him.
@@badgalirri They don't want to trigger your trauma more; that's why they leave it at that. They know grape is very obviously wrong, it's not even a question. They don't offer to hear you out more on the topic because if that happened to them, they would wanna keep it to themselves, so that they can deal with it alone. They want to say a lot more to you, but they don't know in the moment what would be appropriate to say or not, so they just say that they're sorry that it happened to you. The thing about asking "what were you wearing" is to try to fully understand what transpired. No one wants to rationalize an actual grape. The men want to know if the guy in the situation misread your intentions, or just forced you plainly to get what he wanted. There's also the question of who graped you there. Was it someone random off the street, or someone you knew? Was it late at night? Reason men would ask questions like these, is so that they can make you aware of dangerous situations, so that you can avoid being in them. If you did everything in your power to avoid dangerous situations, and something heinous happened to you anyway, then it isn't your fault. Things like these happen. But often times, you taking precautions to keep yourself safe will actually keep you safe. Taking these measures does work. Lastly, I want to tell you that I've never met a man in my life who wouldn't take actual grape seriously. The vast majority of men are hardcore against it. The men who don't have a strong stance against it, are degenerates, and criminals themselves. Please don't mistake men's few words on the topic when they come to know of it having happened to you as some sort of indifference they have to your situation. They're whole-heartedly against it, and want to say a lot more to you, but they don't know what to say or do in that situation.
12:26 a girl leaves cause she feel comfortable with them defending rape. Then they get all pissy after their advice was basically “it’s your fault if you stay” when she tries to leave 😂
My momma ALWAYS said, “show me your friends and I’ll show you who you are.” I didn’t understand what she meant until I became an adult. My Momma was right!!
So let me get this straight, they’ll proudly, loudly and quickly kick a woman off their show for having a opinion, but they’ll let the grapist stay? These Alpha males are WEIRD
@@shanks8192 these aba and preach fanboys are something else... They don't just kick off girls for just having a different opinion most of time these chicks are loud, annoying and keep cutting the host off
Charleston wasn't insulting their platform hence why he can stay, if you cut off or insult that's when you get the fuck out. They wouldn't kick off a woman who raped a kid if she stayed calm and focus
@@shanks8192 insulting your platform, wrong. Admitting to raping women, 100% ok. Do y’all not read what you type? I feel sorry for your girlfriends/wives because if someone raped them and that person went on that podcast you’d be supporting them just as you are now.
thanks so much for this video, its great to see men advocating for women online. really makes me want to cry what that podcast is saying and the affect it can have on young men and women.
I dont think yall get enough props for being so level headed when it comes to these topics. Everyone else that speaks on these kinda things are either too far left or too far right and they seem to be the ones that get the most attention whether it be good attention or bad. Really respect you guys for highlighting how crazy these other ppl sound and how harmful their messages are, and i hope that your page grows bigger and bigger so that you can drown out the other horrible messages being pushed. Yall really need to flood tik tok with your content cause it would definitely make a difference! Stay blessed!
Stop protecting people from ideas u don’t agree wit because u think it’s harmful. What is harmful can also be useful to prevent that harm. The more u push for one part of the discussion to be drowned out the more attractive that idea will be to those who stumble onto it. What is forbidden will be desired. Push for wholeness not your perceived sense of good and right l.
@adio8824 r@p& is forbidden. You desire it? That's a goofy take man. There are times and places for extreme ideas and those places are on/in educational platforms. If people are not coming forward with honest intentions for discussion and discourse, get off the internet. It's clear this person is proud of what he did to women and is promoting that idea. Then you come along and cosign this under the guise of intellectual honesty whilst being intellectually dishonest.
Depends on how you define too far. To some anyone disagreeing with them to even the most minor extent is an extremist. That is not healthy. No one has to agree with anyone else. It's okay to disagree or have your own opinions on things. I grew up when people who had different views could have a conversation and reach a compromise somewhere in the middle. Sometimes even agree on some things. Now if you disagree with someone they label you as the worst things possible. We have fallen far and it's sad.
@@Only1CoachG 🍇 is forbidden but the idea itself isn’t shielded from me u dumb@ss. I can study it and understand why it’s wrong. Shielding the idea will just make understanding it harder till it’s acted out. Do not speak on my intentions while using your intentions about my intentions as a perceived good. This why I don’t trust u folks who swear u do what u do for the good. More atrocities and hell has been cast on this earth just from good intentions alone. Stop shielding folks and let them understand why wut is forbidden is forbidden.
@@moralityisnotsubjective5 Yea i believe that people are entitled to their own opinion, i am just saying that sometimes there is an imbalance of people who see things more in the middle than left or right.
I remember when I was 15 hanging out with my older cousin he brought me around his friends and they just shared a bunch of stories of how they used to run trains on girls from the party phone chat lines. I remember one story that sounds exactly like the one mentioned in this video. The girl came home with 1 guy after a date and he had dudes hiding in the closet basically waiting to jump out and join in. How they didn’t think it was 🍇 is beyond me.
It's starts with this idea that women need to be manipulated into s*x. You have to run "game" and do whatever and say whatever to get what you want because women won't ever genuinely want s*x with you without being tricked into. It isn't long before they stop seeing women as people and just see them as a source for what they want that just needs to be manipulated the right way. If it involves straight up being lied to and forced, so be it.
This happened to me as a tee , and I didn't fight for the reason you stated. I was supposed to spend platonic time with one friend (that is what I imagined anyway) and ended up in a situation with several boys and grown men. I was in shock. I couldn't believe it was happening. I didn't know what to do or how I should respond. I was a quiet girl at school, on the spectrum, and wasn't good a people. It's part of the reason i was so excited to hang out with the guy i thought was my friend. I thought that we were interested in the same quirky things and that he saw me rather than my akwardness. They didn't ask me if i wanted it. They didn't threaten me. They just surrounded me, pushed me back, and started pulling down my clothes. I laid there in silence and went somewhere else in my head. The story beat me to school the next day. They said I was a ho who let them run a train on me. Kids I had never spoken to in my life walked up to me and asked me about it. I was molested at 5 and put in a foster home for a couple years before being placed with relatives, so I didn't tell anyone about what happened because I was afraid I would be taken from my family again. I felt that since this kept happening to me that I was worthless and had no value. So when the same men started coming for me separately, I didn't have any way to protect myself. They would even recommend me to friends. They wouldn't accept no. They were like, "What's the problem? You already did it once." I felt like I couldn't fight them. I felt like I was worthless. So I let the men who did that to me continue to have me. I became exactly what they called me and even began to pretend to enjoy it just so i could feel like i had some kind of control over the situation. This continued for a year before i figured out how to make it stop. And it was years after that before i was able to create true firm physical boundaries with men at all. Because of this, there are a couple guys from college who I had undesired sex with because they weren't "bad" guys, "I allowed myself to be alone with them so it was my fault they had that expectation," because "I should have known that's all they wanted from me because I had no value." Those were the things that went through my mind when I let them get what they want. And then I would do everything in my power to never be around them again, especially not alone. Luckily, i was able to move past that before it moved beyond a couple. My no is firm now, but I still tend to avoid men I don't know. They won't get my number at a gym or a store or a gas station or a bar. If I don't already have a reason to know them like we volunteer together or something, we are not exchanging contact info. I tried online dating for a while, but quit because it was too scary meeting strangers. Not all women, but many women who are looked at as loose have been molested, graped, abused, and are still suffering from the trauma.
❤ wow this is a lot to go through. I don't fuc with a lot of guys because of this. I am so disgusted by men. Most of them are going straight to hell anyways 🎉
Geez....Your story was moving and also sickening. I "let men grape me" too for the same mentality....I froze and had no idea why they weren't stopping when I said no and pushed away...I would rather lie to myself I had consensual sex than fight and face whatever that was.
this made me feel so sad, it reminded me of all the girls I was friends with and hanged out with as a child, and later young teenager and how different it was compared to this. It was all either innocent or sweet, these boys and men are just animals.
Will anything be done about it is the real question, or can they freely say what they've done without fear of repercussion? That man is hella comfortable confessing what he and his buddies did because he thinks (or knows) nothing will be done about it. It's perturbing how comfortable they are admitting being a grapist on social media, and this guy has followers who will defend him and probably do the same thing.🤢
@@declaracionespolemicas I am not a lawyer but for him to face jail time one of the ladies have to come forth and use this statement in court as evidence. That is easier said than done especially if they finally found peace or (something close at least) and now have to discuss all this in public
The amount of anger and disgust i felt watching this was on another level, I have to sisters God forbid anything ever happen to them for their sake and the person who hurt them sakr
I don't want to be the one to tell you, but something like that will probably happen to at least one of them, but they just won't say anything. It is almost always someone you know. If you're an older brother, it might be one of your friends, it might be their teacher, their uncle, their boss, their classmate or coworker... For me, it was my classmate's older brother. For many years I thought we were friends. I guess it was my mistake to think I could party and sleep safely in a house with all my friends. I never told her, nor her mother (who was my teacher) what he did to me. I didn't tell anyone. Sometimes I wanted to, but I'm still ashamed, and I could never bring myself to break their hearts.
My bf has 3 sons with his previous wife. We want to have a child together in the future and he would love to have a daughter (although he’s totally fine with another son, priority is just having one of our own). I have vocalized how scared I am to have a daughter. I am a woman and have experienced creepies. My strong Mexican mother taught me how to read creep signals and be aware of my surroundings all the time, every day to avoid being taken or raped or killed. I just have so much anxiety about protecting a woman (daughter) growing up with how many exual predators there are out there. It truly scares me to have a daughter. Thanks aba and preach for highlighting these creeps and making more people aware of the horrible people out there.
Logically you're correct to feel that way. The phrase means that being evil is a trait that men have, when it's not the case. Only some men are like that. It's like saying "Dogs are aggressive"
@@Ash_Wen-li It's most men that are evil and I'll say the same for women too because if it were only some people that were evil, the world wouldn't be this fucked up
This guy probably has a record, and "known associates" and now he's online naming them, I hope someone somewhere is building a new case based on some cold case grape files.
The problem with society today is that hes saying "we was kidz" while most likely referring to a bunch of dudes in their mid-20s and genuinely believes that's accurate. You used to be considered, and would consider yourself, a legitimate man in your mid to late teens. These days men are 22+23+24+ and still acting like, and genuinely believing, they are still kids and that they should not be held accountable as adults for their actions. Society is infanticising young men and its going become more of a problem as time goes on.
I’m sorry I don’t mean to come across as rude. But at that point people are just stupid. Just because the brain stops developing in your mid 20s doesn’t mean someone is a “kid” in their early 20s
Good point. People have been thinking they are kids when they are full legal adults in their 20s. Being immature doesn't make you 15 when your really 22.
Girls’ biggest fear with men is that men might try to take advantage of them and make them feel unsafe and we don’t empathize with that enough. It don’t mean we gotta pamper them to death but at least don’t denounce their emotions. They are so dismissive of women’s emotions that there is no way they connect with any girls. These guys are chumps.
Your right ! I have male friends that i have known for 20 years and i refused to meet him and his work colleagues to hang out after we went out drinking. Nope i took my a** home!
@@vindexworld4636 same as a woman I can feel when I might be walking too close and making someone uncomfortable just cuz we are headed in the same direction. I just get in front or walk slower to gain space behind them. Especially with the elderly Asian people on my morning walks since COVID happened and I live in an Asian community during a time where Asians were/are being attacked at higher rates.
Ofc. Who cares about their emotions. Their emotions are most of the reason why we got most problems on civilization level. Because evolution just decided for what ever f up reason that in order for our species to survive, we should form an bound and contract and call it anything you want, with an overgrown child that changes as the winds blow, can't and don't want reciprocate most things, cannot be reasoned with, is always a victim to shift accountability from what they are responsible for and list goes on and on. In that sense, being a man is basically a curse.
It is scary to think of how many people look up to those fools in Miami. If that’s the next upcoming generation we are doomed. Keep up the great work ,I enjoy it. You guys speak of what it is to be real men. Thank you
I'm glad this is being talked about because this shit happens a LOT. I remember when I first started dating this new girl in Highschool and some seniors tried to bribe me into setting her up.
I did time in the Texas prision system like this man did. I routinely heard stories like this and far far worse from dudes that had been in there 20+ years for some horrific shit. He belongs back in there with them.
He was young. But I’m sure your solution is to lock up All the black young boys partaking in this. I’m mean unlike your self righteous ass Charleston understands that it’s the culture that pumps out folks like him, his aim is to destroy the legitimacy of that culture. But yours is to let the culture keep going and lock up every product of the culture. Feeling guilty while having a strong sense of righteousness doesn’t make u better than those men in there. The ones who can go in there come out and understand what’s happening and push for better are a thousand live times better than you will be.
he already did the time, he just talking about the past. whats the point to stay in forever. or you want him dead. theres no reason to pay tax payer money if you want people in prison for life, they might as well just die. and save 20K per prisoner.
Daaaammn... hits close to home. I know someone whose entire life was changed by a group of boys manipulating a situation into something like this. Terrible. I have to regulate my breathing just thinking about it, gets me very angry.
@@jingleballs9935 Easy have one person asking to meet up with her that she likes and have the guys wait around back this is typical manipulation and peer pressure tactics
@@TacoMan99 bro ima be real here yea,i came from these circles and no there was no rape involved but dude manipulation and peer pressures is a real thing. Theres entire "game plans" a play book for this shit. And every group does this.
My grandma said this was a thing when she was in her 20s and 30s. Her ex and his friends bragged about doing this to someone 😢 My grandma of course broke it off but it’s just unbelievable.
Heard that from another guy named Tommy Sotomayor. He talked about one of his cousins he had to help from being epar (read it backwards) from his own cousins and the family tried to cover it up or called him a "Uncle Tom" (they used worse language for the same effect) for stopping them and snitching. This was back when he was like 12. He's around 50's now. This isn't even old behavior. Still happens now and probably going to even more since more boys are going to be born with no goo male role models, be raised by women or be surrounded by women who fear or hate men and look at them as a potential threat (already hearing stories like that where a mother was told to leave her 5 year old son on the street from trying to enter a women's shelter cause the other women felt unsafe while this mother came from an abusive husband) and it's pretty much going to continue. The problem isn't that channels like this one Aba and Preach are able to talk. It's that they have so many people who listen and see what they are saying as right. It shows a fundamental problem where you have guys listening to this and agreeing so what the fuck is wrong in their life or where they grew up where they can hear this stuff and think it's good?
@@RavenCloak13I can't stand Tommy Sotomayor, but this puts some perspective on why he is the way he is. With family like that.... I am glad he was an "Uncle Tom" and a snitch, he's a hero for going against his family to save his cousin from his cousin's.
@@ThatGirlJD You hate how he talks not what he thinks. Even if I don't agree with everything he says, the majority of stuff he says isn't deplorable or even wrong. It's just he comes off as mean or sounds it because of his voice and tired of things said to him, his daughters, the people around him that degrade the Black community and people in general. Like this isn't new or different. Stuff like this with people with close knit communities is pretty common when they value image and appearance of the group over integrity.
The craziest part about the part where he asks the girls "who picks the guy?" is that they would be the same people who complain that girls will pretend to like guys and go on dates with guys to use them to get a free dinner.
Exactly. I'm starting to pick up on FnF's strategy though. They never put women on the show that know how to call out their contradictions or organize context. There are so many women streamers that can and will give them push back, but they don't put those women on the show. They pick random instagram girls who they know are unprepared and can't debate back. Therefore making Myron and Fresh look like they know what they're talking about.
you know what's funny, he says "tell them no and leave." and when the girl on his show says she's uncomfortable and she's going to leave they berate her for it.
Perfect example. They think it’s the easiest thing in the world as a woman to tell a man no when they’ve proved time and time and time again why it isn’t
Mind you this man says "we wuz kidz"... Meanwhile all the other videos are of him as an adult proudly claiming its ok to beat, ab*se, grape women. Dude is a sick individual & now hes running youth programs. Shit is wild.
SOME Redpill folks preach accountability, judging women for their pasts but they cozy up to literal grapists and laugh about their crimes. KEEP THE SAME ENERGY FOR GROWN ASS MEN WHO ARE GUILTY OF FAR WORSE than any of the women you routinely judge.
Hopefully he ends up in prison and gets to play the role of the girl.
So
Oh God he's running youth programs also I probably put a couple instead of some
@@ballinv2452 tf u mean “so”?
@@whisperienced wonder if he’ll think it’s so funny to have a train ran on a person who isn’t consenting
Huge respect to that young woman who had the confidence to get up and leave the podcast politely
I was clapping for her too
I was hoping they would all leave tbh
See how they try to make out SHE was the illogical irregular one
@@TheFaro2011 she was just trying to leave, she wasn't attacking anybody but fresh and fit still felt attacked.
@@aj3706 straight puss boy response from Fraud and Unfit
As a father of 2 young teenage girls this makes my stomach sick. Fresh & Fit are joking about rape, abuse and conning women. They don't seem to ever hold men responsible. The truly frightening thing is that young men and women are listening to guys like this.
Aba N Preach - please keep doing what you are doing, it is needed.
Muhammad raped his first wife why would any of them care about rape when there profit did it
Fit & Fresh never keep the same energy with the male guests. Never seen them say get the 'fuck out' to male guests!
@@TopRawMen Yeah, they just had another video with Waka Flocka before this one, where they talk about grape being a myth and how it isn't real. In that video about 6 girls leave that room and while they left Fresh and Fit just kept trashing the girls saying they were soft, they were ruled by emotions, told em to hurry up and leave fast, and tried to shame em by keeping the cameras on them while they left. But when Waka Flocka left halfway through the show, no comments where made and thanked him for coming.
Also just wanted to note every girl that left, left voluntarily because they wanted to, for some reason Fresh&Fit claim they kicked em out.
WHITE women
what a beta male you are. Say hi to your wives boyfriend for me
Myron literally said, "It was a different time" dude didn't turn a blind eye, he co-signed that shit.
Co signing assault FnF are scum
I wonder if he'd have same reaction if it was a white dude talking bout grap ov a black girl with his friends??? I doubt he'd have the o it was different times attitude???
You can't be surprised at this point. That nigga hates women.
Myron hates women because his mom wouldn't let him breast feed for an extra year. That boy deprived.
@@tonythetiger1600 he wouldn’t care because a he doesn’t have female friend and he doesn’t like black women. If you ever watched them you would learn that. They only date white women.
I encountered a guy like this before. Thank goodness my dad was a marine and taught me how to fight them off smarter not harder. The next time he grabbed my behind, I broke his wrist. May seem overboard, but this idea that you can invade my space and use my body without my consent doesn’t fly with me.
These idiots are going to meet the wrong woman one day who is going to push back like I did. It’s not about feminism it’s survival.
Na wasn't overboard should of snapped his other wrist and arms at it as well, sorry that happened to you, shout out you and your dad 🫡
You got to do what you got to do. So good on younfor snapping wrist.
wow, i'm very curious on how you broke his wrist. i know it's not exactly the same as a visual presentation but could you maybe describe it?
Stop the cap
There was nothing overboard about breaking his wrist. Nothing at all.
As a representative of the old lady class, it irritates me that they said, "Oh, it was another time." Don't get it into your head that we thought this was acceptable thirty years ago. I would have been horrified about this thirty years ago. In fact, I worry that this generation has lost the idea that sex is supposed to be an expression of love.
As someone from this generation, yes. We lost the idea of that years ago. For me I understand that sex is the highest form of intimacy that you can have with another human being but from even when i was 14+ I could see how sexual charged, directionless and degenerate people were being towards it and while I found people around me at the time attractive, I'd lose all interest in associating with them if i discovered they were conducting in this degeneracy. I figured why bother with people who couldn't ruminate on the meanings of the things they engaged in and what they meant for them.
@@KingNirada I'm a Christian, but we have a number of people who aren't Christians who hang out at our church, and this is exactly why. As an old lady, you will never be sorry for choosing not to engage in nihilistic relationships. You're doing the right thing.
I think it's a mixed bag. Nobody confuses assault with consent but between erotic content, gold singing red pill, blue pill, blahs blahs blahs, some people definitely dont boink for love. Not most just some.
So true the act has been reduced to a point it’s almost considered meaningless
People in this generation are degenerates for this kind of behavior. To them sex isn't about love or intimacy, it's about selfish pleasure and it's sick.
As a man, this is painful to watch. This man needs to get the punishment he deserves.
Agreed. He’s bragging about it !
You're soft
@@frankz9251 bruh please tell me what you meant by this I am dying to know- did you think he was saying painful literally as in like he had to look away like when you look at the sun or some shit!?!?! Bruh what are you on man you cannot believe this your mental health would be so fucked
@@frankz9251 You are dumbass
@@frankz9251 your sick
This happened to a girl that I knew in the 90's. She is still so damaged she has never been able to get over it. It ruined her kids life's because she will never be right. That dude should be in prison for the rest of his life
Death sentence fits better.
@@user-Zachary123he ruined her life, rape is reprehensible and often rapists reoffend and end up raping tons of people. Also, once they get out of prison they are more likely to start murdering the women too, thinking it’ll avoid them getting caught. Rehabilitating rapists is next to impossible.
Especially if they have full NPD. Narcissists have no regard for anyone else but themselves.
😢 So sorry this happened to your friend. 💔
She shouldn't of had kids tbh
This ain’t it. You don’t sit there and laugh at that shit. You immediately call that man out, shame him, condemn him and “Frank Castle” him, if you have any integrity whatsoever. The fact that he’s comfortable enough to even share that shit with them is crazy. This is the worst.
Edit: Also, as a current LEO with 20+ years experience, the fact that Myron as a former LEO didn’t push back on C. White makes me think that he would also rubber stamp every corrupt, excessive, irresponsible thing anyone LEO does, and this is a huge problem among our ranks…the ranks of men (specifically black men), and the ranks of LEOs.
It's fresh and fit. We already know they don't have any integrity
This is groomer shit, cw talking way too reckless...
@@AlenAlic 100%, I realized that from the first few podcasts I watched.
@@AlenAlic that’s not true Allen. I’ve seen it also… ABA is a hypocrite. Why didn’t he go at Destiny for defending Pedophilla 😂🥲
Not frank castle him hahaha
I'm a woman and I really get a lot if comfort from this channel. I appreciate that you are shocked and disgusted by the trash these monsters talk. The comment section also gives me hope and comfort in an increasingly shudder inducing internet
The one channel I can count on for non-brain rot content
Believe it or not, it's still the minority of men that do the nasty things Charleston White does. 🤷🏾♂️
Same they definitely do make me comfortable. I love how they stand up for women when it's right. They have morals & I respect this channel a lot.
That guy kinda looks like the black version of Skinny Pete from Breaking Bad XD
Comfort is hardly the word that this comment section brings me. More like horror. There are still men defending what this psycho is saying. Disgrace.
If this is what he's comfortable telling, imagine what he's done that he keeps to himself
He’s not speaking in these situations proudly… y’all act like he’s gloating.
H Moneygetter
He VERY CLEARLY was gloating?? The fuck you talking bout?
He LITERALLY laughed about it on the F&F podcast, then made several other videos, GLOATING, telling people to "be mad at that" and laughing.
Told people he believed a woman needs to be beat or verbally abused from time to time.
he must be your hero for you to ignore ALL of this...
True.... that is disturbing...
@@hmoneygetter2029 he is absolutely gloating and justifying this disgusting behavior. Which video did you watch?
Yes 👏 👏 👏
This happened to a ex of mine, we had broken up and she went to a party and was gangraped, there was a undercover police officer at the party and busted everyone there, those men aint gonna see the sun ever again, 3 drug charges, assault on an officer and multiple charges of sexual assault.
Ok
Problem is, now she's traumatized for life.
Def sounds real
That girl leaving the podcast was so brave, I don’t think ppl even realize how hard that must’ve been to do the right thing when surrounded by a bunch of idiots and yes men. For real, ppl just become sheep or very quiet in situations like that but she spoke up and stood up. Mad respect.
And for Waka Flocka acknowledging the craziness and trying to speak up for them.
I love fresh and fit. I'd die for them. They're amazing.
@@smokerx6291 ofc the guy with a drawn shirtless dude as his pfp is saying this shit
Hhh
@@Abby-un9rw don't bring the art into this, that nigga just wack
I'm actually glad this happened - F&F and the likes always claim plausible deniability when it comes to SA - now their tolerance for grape and SA is out in the open for anyone to see.
Do you wanna know the funniest thing of all?
Myron, has on countless separate occasions pushed hard on the notion that an average 14 year old boy would f*ck any grown w*man up.
How with this in mind can he sit there and say; 'who's fault is that?' LOL when women make the case that sometimes it's not possible to 'say no right then and there and leave' ?
OPEN contradiction.
Myron: 'Any non MMA trained woman would get taken out by any 14 year old boy that's been through puberty'
Also Myron: 'Women should be able to stand up for themselves and say no and leave, otherwise who's fault is that?'
This alone if anything just proves barely any of what he says is rooted in reality or truth. He just reads from a script or says what he needs to to keep with the fanboy pleasing narrative that is to dismiss men of ANY blame or that word these gimmicky gurus like to use; 'accountability'.
Sadly they will continue to deny and their cult like fake red pill followers will defend them to the death
You guys just talk about it. Myron has helped more girls ,saved many people dying than everybody in this comment section combined.
@@Mr16Terence you spelled MORON wrong 😑
@@Mr16Terence wheres your proof? lmao just anecdotal evidence is a little bit different that literal recordings of him saying fucked up shit and as we saw in this video openely having a rapist on and not pushing back in the slightest? open your eyes lol see more than you want to see dude theres still hope for you
Back in 1998, I had to save a family member from guys like this. I warned her before she went to her new 'boyfriend's' house that he was a bad guy and I knew his type in high school. I met him once and immediately saw right through him and told her privately that he would use her, but she didn't listen. She was a 'strong and intelligent' 18-year-old who 'can make decisions for herself without me telling her who to date'. That same night, at 3am, I got a frantic call begging me to come to one of the city's worst neighborhoods to pick her up. When I got there, 7 guys were standing around her. Two of them I saw had guns tucked in their pants. By some miracle, I was able to convince them to let her go. I stroked their egos about being 'real players who can get better women', talked about family, and brought up being a devout Christian since they all had cross chains (I'm not religious). When we drove away, I told her to learn from this. Look beyond the flashy shit, fast talk, and good looks. I am not looking to blame women by sharing this story. I'm sharing to say please, ladies, pay attention to the signals these low-life a$$holes give off from the beginning. Most men would never rape or run trains on you. Good men who will respect you are out there! And PLEASE listen to family that you know cares for you and had always been there for you. Decades later, that night is still scarred in my memory.
How is she now?
This needs to get pinned
I know this exact situation. Shit like this happens too often, and they are kids, thinking everything is brand new
@@Anw4rr10r she's good now and has a decent long term relationship. Now in her 40s, she's matured into dating a stable regular man. But for at least 7 to 10 years after that incident back then, she still dated some horrible guys. My advice saved her from being gang-graped, that I know of, but it didn't stop her from continuing to date thugs, players and pretty boys who didn't last. She did the typical 'where are the good men' whine for years. Her bad choses strained her relationships with me and the rest of the family for more than a decade. But things are good now. Thanks for asking.
*SPEECH 100*
The fact Myron used to be a federal agent and is laughing it up with a self-snitcing 0ffend3r, telling old tales of his SA, speaks volumes about what kind of character Myron is... That's messed up.
VOLUMES! This is disgusting 🤮
That might be why I was fired
@@lovejunkie490 "I"?
@@thomas.thomas he*
Are u really scared to say “offender” ?
"WHY DIDNT SHE PUT UP A FIGHt?" A lot of you won't even fight a dude ONE ON ONE, pulling out guns at the smallest insult. She suppose to fight a GROUP OF DUDES? She's suppose to fight them and pray that don't bury her?
F&F legit backed down from fightin aba and preach because they knew they'd lose yet they expect women to put up a fight against a man. Lol
And if she did try and fight, they'd call her "emotional". You can't win with them.
What are you ya about? They didn’t say that.
I'm sorry I laughed out loud when I read " She suppose to fight a TRAIN OF DUDES?"
@@lolimsweet It wasn't directed at them. I was just referencing common responses we see on SA.
At my prom, 8 years ago, I saw my neighbour and childhood friend heading out with a guy, who was much older than us and was there to accompany his* (edit) cousin. I am glad that i followed them out, because something in my mind told me that it was not right. After I confronted them, my friend looked totally confused, somehow sleepy and the dude told me that she didn't look fine and he was going to bring her home. I told him that since she was my neighbour and my father was on the way to pick me up, I would just take her with us. He tried to play " the gentleman" and told me to not worry, but I insisted and I reminded him that my father was about to arrive at any minute. That was a lie, but he somehow believed it and left. Then I called my father and we brought my friend home. Later that night she had a seizure and was rushed at the hospital by her parents. It turned out she was drugged. We think that the dude, who was sitting in the same table with us, put something on her drink while we were dancing or in the toilette. We live in a dangerous world....
Not all heroes wear capes! 👏🏾 good job
You saved her life omgggggg! Bless you
@@miche_beast6881 America in a nutshell. Rape culture exists
Doesn't the man have children and daughters?? What would he think if it happen to them!?
Bless you Hun, keep vigilant
The fact that those guys still have a podcast shows you how low we've come as a society
As much as im with what you say, will taking the podcast away from them make them stop? It didnt work with sneako's base.
Agreed
The fact that you DON’T realize the connotation in which this is presented is beyond me.
It's honestly sad none of you ppl did your due diligence, just following behind aba and preach, they intentionally took this video out of context
do you not see what youtube is today? we lost as a society years ago cause dumbasses kids keep making people like them famous.
And these same guys that think they deserve a traditional woman 😅
And all they're gonna get is hos, exactly as they deserve.
they deserve worse
\@@lucianaromulus1408
Yeah while shaming a Catholic woman calling her goody two shoes. IFYKYK.
These are the tate type guys. They don't want traditional women and thank god for it. They may claim to but they don't understand the definition.
They do
Whether it’s a friend, family, or stranger everyone should hold people accountable for bad behavior. Period.
I’m still trying to figure out where we stopped doing that. This is a universal truth.
I disagree. If you want to spend your time explaining shit to someone who doesn't want to hear what you have to say that's your choice.
💯💯💯
Yeah so you call a guy up for an interview not a debate and when he talks about his life you tell him to go in a time machine and change his past lol. Women are being debated men are being interview on that show. Aba can't seem to tell the difference..
How does it effect me on what other people do in their lives? How bout mind ur own business?
He just said “why don’t women just leave when they don’t feel safe”…she said “I don’t feel comfortable “ he treats her like a leper and ridicules her for saying she doesn’t feel safe …point proven of why some women feel stuck in certain situations … y’all did a great review and called the thing the thing 🙏
Fr. Some situations aren’t always “exit-able” its hilarious to me that these people think a woman has turned up to a party knowing they will be attacked or something. These men have continuously proved they are immature with little to zero understanding of the world and have shown they dont know the difference between a “ideal” scenario compared with “realistic” scenarios. A realistic scenario would be that many woman do try to leave but they get held against their will and a ideal scenario would be that the attackers would just let the victim leave better yet there wouldnt be an attack 😂. How they cant realise this is shocking.
The fact that they're supporting grapists and blaming the women for getting graped shows how mentally deranged they and their fan base are.
Thank You for THIS! I raised 2 (amazing) sons on my own. I understand the injustices towards both males and females. Hatefulness, predatory behavior and stupidity isn't gender specific! I really love watching y'all. I bet your parents are proud and your woman is grateful; well Preach's anyway, LOL, jus playin' XO Aba
@@femmefatale71 Good to know that women have never condoned rape or raped someone. They’re also never stupid or hateful.
@@femmefatale71 Yes. Let’s just ignore the stigma that men face if they were to report any type of sexual assault or behavior that doesn’t get reflected in those statistics as well…
@@femmefatale71Recently I read about a 31 year old woman getting pregnant by a 13 yr old boy. His whole life is destroyed he's depressed and was taken advantage of, she literally lured him in and graped him. Not only that shes not doing any jail time for her crime because shes pregnant and will have to care for the child when it's born. If the roles were reversed that dude would be in prison so Gad damn fast it'd make your head spin. She will probably try to get child support from him too when he gets older. Why is that ok? Why do you condone that behavior and act like only men can commit such crimes? No accountability whatsoever. This shit cld happen to anyone.
@@airmanjoe 97% of assaults are committed by men. Ignoring the gender aspect is dishonest and inhibits investigators. You can condemn all abuse without being wilfully ignorant to the gendered aspect of the crime.
@@beyondthesacrosanctbreeze Male abusers go free every day. Brock Turner for one. You want to ignore the gender aspect of the crime yet are happy to acknowledge it when it suits you.
"WhO PiCkEd ThE mAn?"
That's like asking a man why he chose a woman who ended up divorcing him and ruining his life.
Oh no but they're the victim, it's not their fault they picked a "bad" female
And no man ever gets conned....
He has a stupid argument.
We need to bring shame back. This right here is moral decadence of the highest order. And why are those fools laughing?
A-hole should not even be around any more to be shamed.
Probably laughing out of awkwardness? though, I know I'd be fucking awkward if that got said. would probably have to leave the room in the middle of it.
Edit: I'm sorry, I just got through most of the video now. I'd 10/10 leave. Holy fuck.
@@Shawn45able they not laughing out of awkwardness . I thought Myron was a big badass he should’ve frank castled his ass. They loved this shit & eating it all up
@@Shawn45ableWhat kind of Masculine men who proclaim themselves to be the KANGZ of masculine masculinity freezes up like a 6 year old when someone says something harmful and criminal like this? Even a 3 year old boy will immediately call you out for saying bad words as soon as they hear them because they know it’s wrong to cuss! These men AGREE with this rhetoric. They are proud that someone else came on to say it. They like this guy and agree with him. When they disagree with people, they don’t smile. They kick them tf out of the room immediately. They agree with this guy
nice attempt at using decadence
Imagine being proud of causing that much trauma to a girl/woman.
Morally bankrupt creepers.
Literally evil incarnate
The super predator label seems appropriate here
Call them out on it and they'll cry and call you wasict!!
I have no words for how disgusting they are.
50+ billion a year they cost this country and they are now advocating for this?
When that woman was talking about how some women can't say "no", people need to understand that when faced with danger, it's not just fight or flee, but sometimes people freeze.
I took a sef defense course for women and part of the course was us walking alone in the darkened training room where he would jump out at us. Some of us fought, some ran, and some just froze up and couldn't move. Did the women who froze up want to be attacked? No.
Everyone thinks they know how they'll react in a situation until it happens to them.
And after what happened she still never goes to the cops.... lol that screams false accusation to me when she decides to report it maybe 2 years later
@@Waterbug1591 people try to block it out because of shame, or blame that they were in that situation or could have done more. And lots of women dont go to police because of attitudes like yours. they wont be believed. Conviction rates back that up. especially if they know their attacker or person who set them up. and if its 2 or 3 men plus, guess what? that 2or 3 people who have same alibis against the girls. 3 men say "she agreed" against her 1 statement. Unless supporting physical evidence (severe external /internal injuries), this wont make court.
@@Waterbug1591 If a pack of males gang gRape and sodo.mize you what would you do? Go tell everyone?
@@Waterbug1591 A lot of people get robbed and dont go to the police, its that false accusation or just lack of hope that the police will do anything? Unless the girl knows a lot of details about the guy who raped her she cant do much, even with DNA test they cant just magically track the guy
@@Waterbug1591 you must be a caveman lmfao maybe once your brain evolves and maybe if you had experienced rape yourself you would understand why people don’t go to the police. don’t just assume it’s false
I’m a month late and likely not your target audience. I’m a mum of two young boys and an aunty to teenage boys. Concern about what all my boys could be watching led me to content like these videos and it’s been heartbreaking. From a woman of this world and as one who cares for the men I have a hand in making, thank you to you two for using your platform to call out this rubbish behaviour. God bless ❤
I think they're just making content for people with common sense.
Not only is he telling on himself but he’s loud and proud. Plus, he turned people into drug users against their will. Hopefully one of his victims recognizes him. This is his confession.
The thing that people don’t realize is that he did these things when he was a teenager and he’s already been to jail for it. I suspect that A&P will come back with another video to clarify where they were wrong.
@@pjbpiano it doesn’t matter tf. The fact that he’s talking about it proudly makes him weird. Not to mention, being a teenager shouldn’t be an excuse. Just because he went to jail for it doesn’t mean he should be exonerated for it. Drugging and SA is wrong period. No matter how long ago it was. That talks about his morals and his character. Bragging about it as an adult shows he still lacks those morals and character.
Fresh and fit literally dug their own grave invited this man to dig deeper and set it on fire
@@Mama.973 as I said, these things are said in a context. None of you seem to have the context. You are content to make your judgements based on the clips you have seen here and that makes you less capable of actually understanding what is going on. CW has several beefs with rappers and many important members of the black American online community for the same reason. Eventually, people get the context and then change their tune.
@@pjbpiano It doesn't matter. I never did things like that when I was a teen. He is a demon pure evil. Stop making excuses for demons.
Birds of a feather, flock together. Fresh and Fit didn't have any pushback on that dude because they either admired what he was doing, related to what he was saying, wanted him to keep giving content without resistance, or all of the above. No matter why they didn't, they made themselves look just as terrible as that guy.
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Fresh and fit , especially Fit was the desk boy at the FBI, who got some money and now thinks he's alpha cause he was an ex Fed...
He's a clown and a lot of the things he does is to set up these Women and Men he is a opposition...
Probably just do the same
Yup…see I learned a lot from Fresh&Fit. Sometimes they make “good points”…but they on some different energy that I don’t really fuck with. I get where they’re coming from sometimes, but bruh this video made them look bad. Red pill….when you think about it is full of shit if you don’t know balance. They don’t teach balance and actual respect. Men are superior and give them a license to cheat on their women since it’s in a man’s “nature” to cheat.
I think they were scared to say something. Like Aba said they said “AYO!?” Like they knew what he was saying wasn’t right but wasn’t man enough to put their foot down and actually confront him on that BS
The rage that is bubbling in my soul to somehow see that these men get what they put out is beyond this world.
Keep bubbling cause women get away with a lot worse. You can prove rape but not a lie lol
cool
Freedom of speech, just don't watch it.
thx for the warning, ill skip that for now.
@@mischadalpuppo6066 r*pe isnt free speach
The men holding these men accountable makes me so happy. I love you guys and it really gives me hope for humanity. Honestly..
Yep they make a big difference and really care 😃 aba n preach definitely didn’t make this for content to make money ! Not like the videos of CW are already out there for everyone to see! What would we do without our online hero’s Apple n Peach!
As a woman watching that sad excuse of a MAN say those things made me sick to my stomach. So proud of my boys standing up for us. I love you baybays!
and that is why you single
@Gengar Phantom69 nah mf, she's right this shit is vile and aba and preach are right. And you got the mentality of a fucking 5 year old if you think any of this shit is right. And that's insulting to 5 year olds. Can't believe you would even say dumb shit like that under this comment. But hey a dumbass gonna dumbass.
@@gengarphantom6967 rather be single than celebrate rapists and cheaters 🤣🤣 life would be way more peaceful without it
@@gengarphantom6967 Get off the internet and touch grass.
@@iren5792 1- If you want a high value man you must accept he want a lot of options, he worked to build his empire and you are just a leeches coming to suck on it, deal with it like Beyoncé did, be smart. But if you want an average 45k man that will be loyal because he can’t have options then good for you. 2- The Grapist numbers are not as high as people think, sure people get grapes but in low number , to the point they are statistical insignificant hence why is an irrelevant issue but keep believing that feminist propaganda, invest in chewy cause” you will have a house full of cats.
"Women should say no and leave if they are uncomfortable or feel like there in a bad situation".
Woman: "I'm uncomfortable and I'm going to leave".
Fresh and Fit: *And I took that personally*
I'd die for fresh and fit. They're above aba and preach. I love fresh and fit. They're great
Bro fr women say no all the time and then the guy says some shit like "OH I didnt want you anyway yous ugly af" like whAT
Smoker X, you’d “die” for fresh and fit?? Really? Maybe try being more precise with your words. Less hyperbolic (look it up).
You’re a guy. Why are you hyping up other guys like that? Especially on this topic of ‘grape’, that fresh and fit are condoning? Just for this alone, Aba and Preach are on higher ground.
@@smokerx6291 average bot which has a inability to speak and not sound |ike utter trash
@@AnovaLisaDragonfly I'm being literal. I would actually die for them if they told me to. I didn't see fresh and fit condoning rape in this video or any video.
As a woman who was taken advantage of in the past, this was very troubling to watch. As much as I understand the need for men to get back in touch with their masculinity, this is pushing it way too far. I wish young men had better masculine figures to look up to. A real masculine man wants to protect the vulnerable, he does not seek to take advantage of them. Thank you Aba and Preach for calling these men out. We need more men like you in this world.
Edit : Thank you for all the love and support in the comments. And for the men victim-blaming, I hope you find God. Abuse is never acceptable. So many girls are taken advantage of in their younger years and the fact that you think they should be blamed for it is utterly disgusting.
That ain't masculinity that's just a rapist
I'm so sorry for what happened to you. This isn't masculinity, not even a corrupted version of it. People like this guy are cowardly predators. They choose targets they know can't fight back and do whatever they want. Nothing masculine about that. Just giving into the worst aspects of predatory human nature, an animal with no self control or regard for another person.
You talk as if masculinity is what these guys spew. You're an idiot.
❤
I’m sorry for what happened to you. Masculinity doesn’t mean you take advantage of people, in fact it’s the absolute opposite. Men that take advantage of women are not masculine, they are the most insecure low lives around.
im so glad you made a video about this, i’ve watched countless fresh and fit podcast videos and this really proves what kind of people they are. if they are willing to laugh, protect, and be associated with that man then i can’t imagine what they have done themselves. i hope that all the girls that go on that show stay safe and don’t fall for any of the shit they say. ❤
They are suckas
This is why I will always rock with Aba and Preach. They don't move the accountability line for ANYONE... even themselves. SALUTE to you guys!
What are you talking about? Didn't you just hear what preach said near the beginning of the video? Saying that not all females want trains. Dude, don't tell me that a female doesn't want a train and then continues to ride it. 😂
@@errmack3004 he was usimg infomation to come to a conclution not movinvg the goal post
@@errmack3004 Damn, did you really not understand what he said^
@@errmack3004 This right here is why you so stupid, stupid. Go take a English comprehension course, stupid.
You speak despite missing the whole point. You just hear whatever you want to.
@@errmack3004 your brain cells are fried cos you didn't comprehend Nada
Thank you Aba and Preach for holding both horrible men and women accountable.
horrible people*** accountable
Charleston white is lit tho but he do say some ridiculous shit
@@guccidonbuzzflightyear4440 he’s a rapist what even
@@guccidonbuzzflightyear4440 no he isn't lit he a weirdo yall be supporting fuck shit
This dude sounds like an absolute imbecile and an evil man at the same time. Special places in prison for men like this. Maybe he will feel what it's like on the other side some day!
I remember when I was teenager, my mom gave me the "talk" and it included a story about a girl from her college dorm being set up in the 80s. It happens and is a legitimate fear many girls/women have when linking up with a guy at his place. Hearing that guy boast about what he did makes my skin crawl. You two did a good job rationalizing why a woman wouldn't be able to fight back in a train situation even if she wanted to. The fact that he is working with the youth is appalling. At least he's dropping names.
So much respect for the lady who got up and left. That fucking grapefruit duo is unwilling to learn or shift perspectives, let alone practice empathy and sympathy. They are high key suspect now if they weren't already. I need to do a mental cleanse now.
Yep those two are messed up. I had it on mute almost the whole time and watching that Fit guy laugh was sickening.
You over 200 pounds baby...get that lust Fantasy out of your head a Rapist would Passover you
Can someone enlighten me in what this train situation is? A guy inviting girls to trains and graping them? 🤢🫣
Grapefruit duo love what you just said 👏🏾👏🏾
Male rape is a laugh in our sick culture no one cares about, with jail rape "jokes" the hypocrisy is disgusting.
"You ex law enforcement but you sitting out here with grapist" this was epic man!!!!
"You should say no right then and there", and assert your boundaries. In the last clip, the girl politely asserts her boundaries, then they get pissed off at her🤦🏾♂️
When has they ever be consistent with their "principles"?
Yep, that was infuriating
Agreed...How can a woman fight or scream when at least one of those monsters would gladly snap her neck or beat her to a pulp for saying no? I was a mentor in college, and many of the young ladies were unwilling participants in these "trains." I had one associate who bragged about having to turn over the bloody mattress after trapping a girl...She just wanted to sleep with the star college basketball player, but his friends came in and demanded oral, then once she gave in they pressured her to do a train. She dropped out the next semester.
Right! It's also funny how they expect a girl to say something right then and there when faced with a grapsist. Yet they say nothing then and there when they have a grapist talking about 🍇
Because they’re stupid they hate when women are right
The most heartbreaking aspect of this was going to the comment section of F&F's video and every single comment was "this man is an inspiration" and "we need more men like this" etc. Its horrible that people in world are this depraved and proud of it, but even more horrible that people praise them for it.
That's why guns & ammo disappeared from the shelves year before last.
Some of us know exactly what's coming and how truly truly stupid some are.
Like beyond stupid to the point of zombie brain
MLK touched kids
That's what always gets me when I hear about cases of rape, chid abuse, cruelty, whatever. The incident(s) themselves are bad in their own right and highly upsetting. But seeing people in comments praise the atrocities just makes it worse since it shows just how many of those same people are out there and how society doesn't care.
which video is it?
@@hh22 just search Fresh and Fit Charleston White
When I was 17, I went over to a house party with a “friend.” I remember getting handed a drink and then I woke up with him over me opening a condom. I looked up at him and passed out again. When I finally woke up in the morning there were three used condoms next to me. The only two points I could remember from that night were those two things (holding a drink and waking up briefly-I don’t even remember drinking the drink!). It actually took a long time to even realize I was roofied and raped because I had absolutely no memory of the experience. I hope this is the beginning and end of this red pill bs. We can all do better to hold ourselves accountable for our behavior and treat people the way we want to be treated; not raping people or shaming people for being raped seems like a great place to start.
What'd you do when you saw him again?
So tragic that happened to you… hope you find peace and healing
Sorry this happened damn.....
I hope you are doing better
🥺💔😭
That is so awful!!! How incredibly horrific! I'm so sorry that happened to you and hope you are thriving in life.
"Rap snitches, telling all their business. Sit in the court and be their own star witness" - MF DOOM. R.I.P.
More like their own nails in a coffin
he is a confidential informant, doesn’t even matter
🌽🌽🌽
Aba's line near the end of this vid is what makes me legit sad: "it really is some of the worst people on the planet leading young men." It's rough out here. I feel for young teenage boys and young adult men in the world right now. I do what I can with those who are around me, but guys like Tate are literally seen as "our leader" by droves of young men out there. It's wild.
I would rather chose to listen to reformed war criminal about how to be Good than listen to folks who claim to be good by just calling out the crimes the war criminal comited. Tate has done a lot to help this young boys believe it or not, he speaks in a way that Mordenity won’t like but most young boys and men will understand. Men especially young men must learn to be disliked and go against wut society calls good if they really want to find out the truth of things.
@@adio8824 Holy cope
@@adio8824 wtf are you even saying
@@adio8824 if you listened to your English teacher in school half as much as Mr Tate you might actually spell correctly and make a coherent point
@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986 “by there fruit you shall known them” is an axiomatic truth.
What is the outcome of tates philosophy?? What do those who listen to him turn out like?? I know what that is like for me, he brought clarity and focused mind back to me, I’ve been dealing with the uncertainty of manhood and what a man should be and do. He gave me resolutions in my belief,self image showed me the responsibility I owed my family and ancestors, he fueled my ability to tell myself a different but more enriching story about my life and what I could be. If this are the outcomes of his philosophy for me as a 21 year old I don’t really care what he has done. I’m not even white or a westerner but he was of grate help directing me back to my traditional beliefs.
This are yet to be understood for men at large, but The boys who follow tate did not follow anyone before tate. The boys who gave up and followed the common consensus are not the one following tate. Tate being insanely popular is a testament to the lack of the young’s man psychic. And no Morden men can teach what he did because they’re part of the system that makes em sick.
I don't understand how Fresh and Fit can sit there and say "you should have just said no". Imagine if Fresh got jumped in the street by 7 buff guys and they wanted his wallet, image if he had said "🤓 well actually it's not ok to pressure someone to do something"
Funny you say that, I'm a little but homophobic but only because of Bearforce1. Bearforce1 are probably good guys who would probably help me get home safe if they found me drunk in a dark alley, but at first sight I'd still reach for a gun even if I didn't have one.
Personally I think fearing Fleece Johnson doesn't count as homophobia, that's just common sense.
Not his wallet homeboy. His cheeks.
@@enterthekyuubi The analogy is good enough for the argument.
Nah. Afterwards, you can lock your cards and go to the dmv get a new ID and report the other one stolen. This example is a far less invasive. SA fucks ppl up for years. Can’t get incurable STIs from a stolen wallet.
There's some man who say the same, and I think those people just lack the initiative to think from a woman perspective
Their excuse of “it was a different time back then”, still doesn’t make him any less of a sadistic grapist. I hope people wake up to the trash fit and fresh really is. This guy should be in jail.
Sorry 20 years ago was not a different time (and 20 years is being generous). Rword & drugging back then was never accepted.
Why would he be in jail? If white is openly talking about it he knows the statute of limitations is expired. While at the same time he is a comedian so it could just be a skit. Thats called dark humor.
He should go to the hole under the jail, I hope the internet takes away everything this guy has ever had.
@@chattingman6777 talking about how you raped someone isn’t humor
@@chattingman6777 where was the punchline in grape?
The only thing I care about: is the police investigating and dragging them to a courtroom??? Despicable!
Edit to Aba complaining about the women not "pushing back" on the podcast: as a woman, you don't openly confront a man who boasts about violating women for simple self preservation. You are weaker and slower, so you just wait for the next opportunity to silently exit the dangerous situation to not mark yourself as the next victim. When you're safe, then you call the cops.
Opposite. The video got views and his paycheck gives him an insensitive to continue being disgusting. He then has young boys watching thinking it's the best way to be, that boy grows up to be a tate type and the cycle repeats. It's horrific.
Edit: i fully agree with how the girl handled herself too. I think aba forgot to take into account women aren't him/men.
Where did they complain about the women. I thought they were always talking about the men.
A&P never disappoint. more men should hold each other accountable, as should women.
there are so many great man out there and clowns like F&F and their guest are giving them bad rep and honestly second-hand creating incel culture.
i’m grateful to have a loving, kind and protective man for a husband who is a good role model for our daughter. there are a lot of men like that out there, but damn, with the noise that F&F and circuses alike make, it’s difficult to know they exist.
Fresh and fit are the best. I'd die for them. They're amazing. AMAZING!
@@smokerx6291 you're brainwashed
Fresh and Fit have always been trash and always will be trash. They wh*re themselves out to the lowest of the low and it will only get worse.
Men like them single handedly perpetuate the most disgusting things for views. "Who picked the men" they wake up every day and choose to be garbage.
At my house we are "red pill" people and every man in my house was yelling at the TV and was super triggered. It's not a fair exchange to "feel safe" but we absolutely all feel some type of way now that f/f claim to be red pill leaders. No one can come back from this
@@smokerx6291 give it a rest, fool.
I came across him talking about 🍇ing asian women and babies on twitter, and surprisingly many of the comments were in support of him, and even agreeing with him. It was heartbreaking to see💔
What? That's messed up
BABIES???
That's insane
That's how they feel about Asians fr. Afrucan Americans are the Most racist group of people in America by far
@@Mr_Quadrillion it's true there are recordings of it
This needs to be shared! So many of the black men in our communities look up to that man! It’s sad af!
Charleston White. Yeah, I’ve heard of him for a couple of years. I watched vids of him explaining how he would constantly sue his jobs and win due to OSHA violations. Really funny stuff.
But this, holy shit. This needs to be shared.
This dude is wildin, its sad that ANYONE in our community looks up to this man. THIS. IS. INSANE.
I'm not surprised
@@asherialee he has never been funny to me. He’s just a hypocritical coward that embarrasses the culture.
Don't nobody look up that goofy police ass dude whoever follows him there fucking goofy themselves
He says if a girls uncomfortable then leave....then proceeds to be a prick to her because she's leaving.🤔🤡🤢🤮
Fr, I was like: I'd be scared to leave you.
As a man with 5 sisters
Thanks for exposing these so - called men
I bet at least 3 of your sisters are over 190 pounds and baby mamas... chill out those type of women don’t get enough attention and being rape is their fantasy 😂😂😂😂
5 sisters? YIkes. You must be busy 😅
5 sisters hot damn I bet your a tight knit family
@@neovagras980 I like this comment ❤
Male rape is a laugh in our sick culture no one cares about, with jail rape "jokes" the hypocrisy is disgusting.
Y’all remember that woman last year who came out and said Myron was a creep and wanted to force himself on her? Yeah I’m starting to believe her based on the things he and his buddy say on camera. Imagine what they think and say off-camera!
There’s a dm convo that was leaked with Myron and this girl. Hé invited her to come on the show and she agreed and then proceeded to tell her she had to sleep with him if she wanted to be on. She didn’t want to and told her she couldn’t come otherwise. I don’t think he does this with all the girls but I wouldn’t be surprised if this is the only way he gets girls tbh
I hope that he tries it on a woman who has a man who won't be afraid to beat the crap out of him
Male rape is a laugh in our sick culture no one cares about, with jail rape "jokes" the hypocrisy is disgusting.
@@thecontextual1one411 that's not who they are, they are good people
@@elliotpolanco159 🤣🤣🤣
This has to be a joke... As a woman who has experienced sexual assault, I can say that it is an extremely traumatizing experience, and the fact that they are laughing about it makes me feel physically ill. I am feeling an overwhelming amount of anger as I watch this video, he literally confessed to r*pe why isn't he in jail right now?!?!?
F n F possibly had a lapse of judgement inviting this d..head on n the amount of push back from everyone else will reconsider themselves into making choices as to who they wanna associate themselves with.
statute of limitations
I'm guessing there's no victim coming forward for obvious reasons but if one did, I sure as hell hope they use all these videos as evidence.
@@nicktubara a lapse of judgement? Some things are inexcusable like when you dont report a crime taken place right infront of you.
Charleston white does this all time
I’m glad you said it preach, it needed to be addressed and this is one of the main reasons I find this channel so genuine and comforting. Your emotional intelligence is very high and like someone else in the comments said you’re so tapped in it’s refreshing in this day and age especially with the red pill nonsense.
The shit CW said gave me a visceral reaction hearing a man say that kinda shit just makes me gutted bro. Like damn at one point I thought he was a good man who was trying to support the community and make change but after that I can’t even believe he said that and posted it on the internet and still has a platform
Aba made a great point, when they said to that woman “ who’s fault is that “ but just laughed and joked with CW when he openly admitted to it says a lot like more than words could
I remember seeing this man talk about gang culture in the black community and agreed with him. I had no idea that he was such a degenerate like this. It blows my mind how people can do shit like this.
Me too like WTF?
Exactly like what in the hell
@@juskey7837 who is he?
I HAD NO IDEA!!! How can you be so self-righteous and so deviant at the same time? He needs to be in jail with the men he's trying to put there.
Nooooo, it's a character
Myron: "A 14 year old boy who has gone through puberty can beat a grown woman up."
Also Myron: "If a woman doesn't want to smash, she should just say no and leave."
Woman: "But not all girls can say no and walk away."
Myron: "And whose fault is that?"
This dude is wild. Women can be overpowered by an average man so easily, he even said so himself, but yet, if a woman isn't able to say no, it's automatically her fault. It's only ever a woman's fault in Myron's eyes. Men can do no wrong, even when another man flat out admits to graping women. This guy is sick in the head and should just come out of the closet already.
It’s almost like we can’t help stupid choices out of our hands, I’ll be the minority here and say I stand only against grape of minors that’s the only way I’ll feel bad, but we can’t keep sticking up for women who choose they partners and face consequences no matter what they be
If she doesn’t want to smash she should say no and leave…. How is that even debatable?
@@sleepisthecousinofdeath7395And if she's drugged or up against a group of men? I guess she just has to telepathically say no or hope they don't hold her down and do it anyway. Sure, that's gonna work.
@@Zee-xb9zm It's almost like some of these partners lie or manipulate in order to get what they want! 😮
@@carrela1000 how did she get drugged up around a group of men 🧐.
I was the one who LEFT ! And my girls left with me right after. FUCK THAT ! Then they told me to go cry 😂 titled the podcast saying 6 girls got kicked out but we all willing left 🤦🏻♀️
Proud of you for leaving. These incels can’t hold you down. Myron & Walter are the kings of incels. I can’t even imagine the skeletons in there closets. And the fact that Myron was a cop with this kind of mentality makes me wonder if he was dirty.
As a woman who’s teen years were literal hell because I was considered pedo bait because I looked older than what I was, I clapped when you lead the way for the other girls leaving. Every situation I was in was me minding my own business & grown men old enough to be my dad would walk up to me. That logic Myron spews about women needing to be smarter made me sick. First time it happened I was 13. I was out walking me dog. Guy came up to me with his dog & blocked the sidewalk so I couldn’t walk away. He tried flirting & crap & then when he asked me out I refused him because I was 13. He was 34. When he found out my age after I asked him his, he got angry & gave me a black eye & a cracked skull. He hit me so hard. Worst part was his friends were across the street laughing. No one helped me. I walked back to my house bleeding & passed out on my front lawn. At 14 I was almost kidnapped by two men because they pulled up alongside me while I was walking my dog & I refused getting in there car. My dog saved my life by biting one. At 15 I met up with a classmate after school & we were flirting. I consented to the meetup but when he started trying to force himself on me I recanted & attempted to leave. That’s when he grabbed me, uppercut me in the stomach, tore my top off & tried to pull me into a bathroom to hurt me. A male janitor heard the noise & saved my life. Covered me with a towel too & helped me get home. Thankfully I had a hoodie in my nearby locker & I went home. Rumors started spreading about me from my attacker at school.
Part 2
I was bullied, i had hot soup thrown on me, people called me a slut. It was a nightmare. Worst part was I had a class with my attacker. I begged my teacher to switch seats with a boy. Only comfort I found was with the baseball team that had my brother & multiple male childhood friends on it. One day as I was doing my homework on the bleachers while the team practiced, I was approached by three girls, one happened to be the gf of the guy who attacked me, and they pulled me off the bleachers & beat me until the team came out & scared them off. That’s when I snapped & told the whole team what happened. My brother got quiet that night & when we went to bed, he snuck out. That morning he was quiet. Two days later the cops showed up to arrest my brother. I found out that the night he snuck out, seven of my male childhood friends got together because one of them knew my attacker. They went to his house, dragged him out, took him to a field nearby & beat him into a coma with baseball bats. In order to save my brother & friends I had to tell the cops what the guy did. They convinced me to press charges & I did. When my attacker was arrested, two of his friends tried to intimidate me after school. They followed me home & cornered me in an alley. They groped me, slapped me & threatened me. But it just made me angry. I was furious. Something inside me just snapped.-
Part 3
When the case went to trial, it was hell having to testify. His lawyer tried to paint me as a stupid teen slut. I was forced to take a rape kit by his legal team to prove he didn’t penetrate me but I had to tell everything. I showed every note he passed to me in class & everything we talked about. We almost lost the case until the school principle came forward with security camera footage. There was a camera above us & caught the whole thing on tape. Even the janitor came & testified. When we won the case, my attacker was sentenced to 10yrs. He got out last year & guess what happened to me. He messaged me on Instagram. I had a panic attack seeing his name. I was shaking. I wanted to find him & show him that I wasn’t that scared girl anymore. Imagine doing all that & still trying to contact a victim.
Part 4
But my hell didn’t stop there. At 16 I was groped by a man at the grocery store. When I shoved him off of me he punched me. Three male workers held him down until the cops arrived. At 17 I was at the movies & went to the bathroom while the movie was going. A man snuck into the bathroom & tried to force me into a stall. I had never had that adrenaline rush in my life but I used a self defense move my mom taught me & I jammed my thumbs into his eyes. I ran outside & alerted the employees & they called the cops. At 18 I was at a Target when a man came up behind me & forced himself on me. At that point my dad gave me a knife for protection & I stabbed him once. Guy tried to press charges on me but security cameras & witnessed went in my favor. At 19 I was punched by a man I rejected during a town festival we had every summer. I got knocked out. When I woke up my friends told me that the bikers who were at the festival came to my defense & beat up him & the two other guys he was with.
Part 5
I’m 30 now & things have changed for me dramatically. I don’t get approached anymore because I carry myself with an intimidating presence. I’m certified in self defense & I spent the night in a holding cell stabbing a man who put his hands on my teen cousin. These incidences changed me for the better because it showed me that men can’t be trusted but the true 1% men of the world, the real Alphas, are the men who defended & saved me all those years. Fresh & Fit are clowns & probably would be beaten up by the men in my family & the men I know. I long for the day when Twiddle Dumb & Tweedle Dumbass get put in there place because they’re brainwashing men. Thank God for men like Abba & Preach
I’m 27 and hope to marry someone amazing one day and be a girl dad. This is just sick to watch. I hope this guy gets locked up for his crimes.
I’m glad y’all hold EVERYONE accountable. More men need to do so.
I don't support that dude, but I refuse to hold any man accountable in their interactions with women until women hold women accountable in their interactions with men. None of you held Amber Heard accountable for her actions, Depp had to spend millions to get that. So what incentive exactly do we have to hold other men accountable when y'all won't hold yourselves accountable.
Here's my position, y'all told me you are "strong and independent" my entire life. If you are so strong and independent, why would you need me to hold someone accountable, or intervene in a grape in progress, or even call the police for you. You told me you are strong and independent and there is no fathomable scenario in your life where you would ever need a man in any capacity. So if you don't need us, take care of your problems yourself.
@@Bonesawisready926 THANKYOU
@@Bonesawisready926 Because women (and men) should be supported and helped by their neighbor. That's how a community grows. This sh*t happens because people only look out for themselves. The whole "help yourself because you haven't helped me yet" is ridiculous.
In this case, you literally say that it's okay that it's okay what he did because the woman put herself in the house with a psycho, that had psycho friends. It's like me saying that you deserve to have your house robbed and trashed because you chose to live next to a street...
This is MY position.
@@Bonesawisready926 Pushing the blame?
@@Theprophet-n3m No, just saying I have no responsibility to protect women. My responsibility ends at not causing them harm. Learn to spot the grapist yourself, call the cops yourself, I have no incentive to help more than 2 or 3 women on this planet and those two or three I CHOOSE to protect when something happens.
The thought of waking up and being surrounded by a bunch of criminals with awful intentions is such a sickening and horrifying thought.
I sympathize for any woman who has ever had to go through that. It wasn’t your fault.
Edit: the amount of people victim blaming in the comments is sickening. Yes people should take precautions but a lot of the time, the crime is committed by people you trust. That kind of attitude towards victims is one of the very reasons why most cases aren’t reported.
Even worse if they're awake for the entire incident
I mean.....many of the girls hes talking about like to "hang with the badboys" literally putting their vulnerable selves around savages.
If you walk into a lions den, are you gonna feel safe inside there with the gates closed?
I don't understand how many young girls put themselves in such situations, like what do you think is goin to happen? they're criminals. They don't give af about your feelings.
I'm not saying its right by any standard, just use common sense and things like this doesn't happen.
@@buy-gbl-online should know by now. Common sense doesn't exist.
Some of these criminals have charisma and might even be good looking, good manipulators etc. Don't act like it only happens to reckless people.
@@buy-gbl-online You’re resentment for women is seething. You got to let that go before it consumes you. Most women who get raped aren’t getting raped, because they’re hanging out with bad boys. Most of the times it’s a trusted “friend” or relative.
Would love to meet these guys one day. Doin God's work 👏
Heyyyyy
i legitimately think i would have to put hands on fresh and fit. talking dont work with those incels.
You're talking about meeting aba and preach right?
@@shittyytaccount3287 yess
@@TheOnlyDTM Stop throwing the word incel around please. If you're gonna use the term try to use it accurately.
Thank you guys for exposing this man and the cowards on that podcast. These POS are disgusting. I have a teenage daughter, and I want her to see that not everyone you meet in life are genuine. I'm not saying all men are like that but I want her to be aware and cautious. She needs to know how dirty men like this guy think. Stay safe, ladies, especially young girls who are vulnerable.
Prayers to the victims that encountered that disgusting male.
Yeah cause that lol help. How about either help or shut the fuck up
I had the extreme priviledge to meet preach when was about to board his flight a few months ago. Man, it was so unexpected. I was mad about something that day, probably something i saw online or something that happened in my life but was very minor. As soon as i saw this man all of that went away. You guys are really a blessing man. I used to be RP and used to spew and accept everything i heard to a certain extent. Then, you all showed me the way. Its not that i went from blindly following one community to another, but you guys showed me how to really think for myself while being a decent individual and also respecting myself, despite the state of society.
I say this because you guys can do a lot for the people that are still stuck in that toxic community we call the red pill. You guys keep it real and lead by example, which is why a lot of people will end up seeing the error of their ways eventually by watching your content.
Stay blessed, glad i got to meet you Preach🙏🏽
❤🙏🏿🤜🏿🤛🏿
Don’t forget this is just another RUclips channel with content creators that jump on anything that’s hot and only care about their own opinions. Considering fresh and fit are always viral.. who are Aba and preach constantly doing content on? 😅
Well done man. Seriously
Haha you're hella corny. Riding some youtuber nuts. They just react to content. No wonder you're easily brainwashed. They're just regular people 😅
@@selfimprovement3682 I mean it’s their job… it would be pretty stupid to not cater to the RUclips algorithm to get as much exposure as possible. I’m glad we have good people like Aba and Preach in this world.
Thank you for this video, guys, it makes me cry, honestly. That you are standing up for r*pe victims. Never heard any man have any kind of "passion" in their voice for that or standing up for us like this. Majority of men wouldn't r*pe themselves, but they also don't give much of a f*ck about if it happened to a woman.
You couldn’t be more wrong. It’s really sad you think that way
@@Cobhammar Yeah, I hope I am wrong, for the sake of all other women out there. But in my personal experience it's like this. Waiting for the day a man will have an actual reaction to hearing about it, and not just a straight faced "I'm sorry that happened to you".
@@badgalirri Most men feel strongly about it, but they're not going to start crying to show you how they feel. Saying that they're sorry about what happened to you, is the most appropriate response.
@@War-Zone349 I don't know, I would feel much safer and more supported if they got visibly angry and said something like "I can't believe there are men who do these things! What a vile piece of shit and pathetic excuse for a man. You should know that this was not in any way or form your fault, and if you wanna talk about it you should know I am here for you whenever to listen and emphasize to the greatest extent. I want to learn from women what it is like to be a woman as to be able to be a better man myself." etc etc (especially the last sentence!!!) . I wanna feel like they actually care, like they wanna put an end to this disease of society, like they truly see it as a huge issue (bc it is). If all men who are against rape organized themselves better and voiced these things more I am sure some progress could be made in actually fighting the issue and making society safer for women. "Men loves to protect women" they say, but tbh I haven't really noticed...
I am tired of "oh, but what did you wear?" and men trying to rationalize it and find some way to make it at least partially the womans fault. And then offer a straight faced "sorry that happened to you". Like yeah, that totally makes me feel safe and I want to open up to you now and I feel so supported and understood....... If a man told me he got raped, no way I could keep a straight face. I would be furious, my heart would break for him.
@@badgalirri They don't want to trigger your trauma more; that's why they leave it at that. They know grape is very obviously wrong, it's not even a question. They don't offer to hear you out more on the topic because if that happened to them, they would wanna keep it to themselves, so that they can deal with it alone. They want to say a lot more to you, but they don't know in the moment what would be appropriate to say or not, so they just say that they're sorry that it happened to you.
The thing about asking "what were you wearing" is to try to fully understand what transpired. No one wants to rationalize an actual grape. The men want to know if the guy in the situation misread your intentions, or just forced you plainly to get what he wanted. There's also the question of who graped you there. Was it someone random off the street, or someone you knew? Was it late at night? Reason men would ask questions like these, is so that they can make you aware of dangerous situations, so that you can avoid being in them. If you did everything in your power to avoid dangerous situations, and something heinous happened to you anyway, then it isn't your fault. Things like these happen. But often times, you taking precautions to keep yourself safe will actually keep you safe. Taking these measures does work.
Lastly, I want to tell you that I've never met a man in my life who wouldn't take actual grape seriously. The vast majority of men are hardcore against it. The men who don't have a strong stance against it, are degenerates, and criminals themselves. Please don't mistake men's few words on the topic when they come to know of it having happened to you as some sort of indifference they have to your situation. They're whole-heartedly against it, and want to say a lot more to you, but they don't know what to say or do in that situation.
Aba & preach is the most balanced commentary channel I’ve found on RUclips.
12:26 a girl leaves cause she feel comfortable with them defending rape. Then they get all pissy after their advice was basically “it’s your fault if you stay” when she tries to leave 😂
Literally shorty took their advice and left and they still mad… sick.
The mf audacity, right?!?!??😂
Notice how she said no and left, so Myron is right… you can say no and leave LMAO
@@sleepisthecousinofdeath7395 you're gonna compare a podcast to literal grape. You're an actual idiot.
@@sleepisthecousinofdeath7395 hello fellow grapist 😂😂😂
My momma ALWAYS said, “show me your friends and I’ll show you who you are.”
I didn’t understand what she meant until I became an adult.
My Momma was right!!
So you are saying their guests are their friends, and they endorse everything their guests say?
So let me get this straight, they’ll proudly, loudly and quickly kick a woman off their show for having a opinion, but they’ll let the grapist stay? These Alpha males are WEIRD
Calling fresh and fit alpha males is a joke. Those guys are beta simps.
No, they kick women out for being disrespectful. I can tell you only watch reaction videos but not the full podcast.
@@shanks8192 these aba and preach fanboys are something else... They don't just kick off girls for just having a different opinion most of time these chicks are loud, annoying and keep cutting the host off
Charleston wasn't insulting their platform hence why he can stay, if you cut off or insult that's when you get the fuck out. They wouldn't kick off a woman who raped a kid if she stayed calm and focus
@@shanks8192 insulting your platform, wrong. Admitting to raping women, 100% ok. Do y’all not read what you type? I feel sorry for your girlfriends/wives because if someone raped them and that person went on that podcast you’d be supporting them just as you are now.
thanks so much for this video, its great to see men advocating for women online. really makes me want to cry what that podcast is saying and the affect it can have on young men and women.
I dont think yall get enough props for being so level headed when it comes to these topics. Everyone else that speaks on these kinda things are either too far left or too far right and they seem to be the ones that get the most attention whether it be good attention or bad. Really respect you guys for highlighting how crazy these other ppl sound and how harmful their messages are, and i hope that your page grows bigger and bigger so that you can drown out the other horrible messages being pushed. Yall really need to flood tik tok with your content cause it would definitely make a difference! Stay blessed!
Stop protecting people from ideas u don’t agree wit because u think it’s harmful. What is harmful can also be useful to prevent that harm. The more u push for one part of the discussion to be drowned out the more attractive that idea will be to those who stumble onto it. What is forbidden will be desired. Push for wholeness not your perceived sense of good and right l.
@adio8824 r@p& is forbidden. You desire it? That's a goofy take man. There are times and places for extreme ideas and those places are on/in educational platforms. If people are not coming forward with honest intentions for discussion and discourse, get off the internet. It's clear this person is proud of what he did to women and is promoting that idea. Then you come along and cosign this under the guise of intellectual honesty whilst being intellectually dishonest.
Depends on how you define too far. To some anyone disagreeing with them to even the most minor extent is an extremist. That is not healthy. No one has to agree with anyone else. It's okay to disagree or have your own opinions on things. I grew up when people who had different views could have a conversation and reach a compromise somewhere in the middle. Sometimes even agree on some things. Now if you disagree with someone they label you as the worst things possible. We have fallen far and it's sad.
@@Only1CoachG 🍇 is forbidden but the idea itself isn’t shielded from me u dumb@ss. I can study it and understand why it’s wrong. Shielding the idea will just make understanding it harder till it’s acted out. Do not speak on my intentions while using your intentions about my intentions as a perceived good. This why I don’t trust u folks who swear u do what u do for the good. More atrocities and hell has been cast on this earth just from good intentions alone. Stop shielding folks and let them understand why wut is forbidden is forbidden.
@@moralityisnotsubjective5 Yea i believe that people are entitled to their own opinion, i am just saying that sometimes there is an imbalance of people who see things more in the middle than left or right.
I remember when I was 15 hanging out with my older cousin he brought me around his friends and they just shared a bunch of stories of how they used to run trains on girls from the party phone chat lines. I remember one story that sounds exactly like the one mentioned in this video. The girl came home with 1 guy after a date and he had dudes hiding in the closet basically waiting to jump out and join in. How they didn’t think it was 🍇 is beyond me.
Those people are just evil. They don't care if it's grape or illegal or not.
Guys, I am a German and can you just explain: grapist actually means ...rapist ? Correct?
@@fiction589 yea
It's starts with this idea that women need to be manipulated into s*x. You have to run "game" and do whatever and say whatever to get what you want because women won't ever genuinely want s*x with you without being tricked into. It isn't long before they stop seeing women as people and just see them as a source for what they want that just needs to be manipulated the right way. If it involves straight up being lied to and forced, so be it.
@@fiction589 yeah. If you use the real word, your comment or video will most likely get deleted.
This happened to me as a tee , and I didn't fight for the reason you stated. I was supposed to spend platonic time with one friend (that is what I imagined anyway) and ended up in a situation with several boys and grown men.
I was in shock. I couldn't believe it was happening. I didn't know what to do or how I should respond. I was a quiet girl at school, on the spectrum, and wasn't good a people. It's part of the reason i was so excited to hang out with the guy i thought was my friend. I thought that we were interested in the same quirky things and that he saw me rather than my akwardness.
They didn't ask me if i wanted it. They didn't threaten me. They just surrounded me, pushed me back, and started pulling down my clothes. I laid there in silence and went somewhere else in my head. The story beat me to school the next day. They said I was a ho who let them run a train on me. Kids I had never spoken to in my life walked up to me and asked me about it.
I was molested at 5 and put in a foster home for a couple years before being placed with relatives, so I didn't tell anyone about what happened because I was afraid I would be taken from my family again. I felt that since this kept happening to me that I was worthless and had no value. So when the same men started coming for me separately, I didn't have any way to protect myself. They would even recommend me to friends. They wouldn't accept no. They were like, "What's the problem? You already did it once." I felt like I couldn't fight them. I felt like I was worthless. So I let the men who did that to me continue to have me.
I became exactly what they called me and even began to pretend to enjoy it just so i could feel like i had some kind of control over the situation. This continued for a year before i figured out how to make it stop. And it was years after that before i was able to create true firm physical boundaries with men at all.
Because of this, there are a couple guys from college who I had undesired sex with because they weren't "bad" guys, "I allowed myself to be alone with them so it was my fault they had that expectation," because "I should have known that's all they wanted from me because I had no value." Those were the things that went through my mind when I let them get what they want. And then I would do everything in my power to never be around them again, especially not alone. Luckily, i was able to move past that before it moved beyond a couple.
My no is firm now, but I still tend to avoid men I don't know. They won't get my number at a gym or a store or a gas station or a bar. If I don't already have a reason to know them like we volunteer together or something, we are not exchanging contact info. I tried online dating for a while, but quit because it was too scary meeting strangers.
Not all women, but many women who are looked at as loose have been molested, graped, abused, and are still suffering from the trauma.
❤ wow this is a lot to go through. I don't fuc with a lot of guys because of this. I am so disgusted by men. Most of them are going straight to hell anyways 🎉
Anyways you are beautiful, you are worthy ,you are valuable and you are more than enough
I know this is weird but I am a social service worker if you need any genuine person to talk to I am here.
Geez....Your story was moving and also sickening. I "let men grape me" too for the same mentality....I froze and had no idea why they weren't stopping when I said no and pushed away...I would rather lie to myself I had consensual sex than fight and face whatever that was.
this made me feel so sad, it reminded me of all the girls I was friends with and hanged out with as a child, and later young teenager and how different it was compared to this. It was all either innocent or sweet, these boys and men are just animals.
The fact yall are one of the only youtube pages even talking about this is WILD. More ppl talking about it on Twitter
Evil can't stay in the darkness for long so most criminals have to say it at some point. Thank God for social media so more people can see them
How about most evil tells on themselves right in front of you.
Will anything be done about it is the real question, or can they freely say what they've done without fear of repercussion?
That man is hella comfortable confessing what he and his buddies did because he thinks (or knows) nothing will be done about it.
It's perturbing how comfortable they are admitting being a grapist on social media, and this guy has followers who will defend him and probably do the same thing.🤢
@@declaracionespolemicas I am not a lawyer but for him to face jail time one of the ladies have to come forth and use this statement in court as evidence. That is easier said than done especially if they finally found peace or (something close at least) and now have to discuss all this in public
This channel is so important to hold channels like Fresh and Fit accountable. Keep doing yalls thing.
OK but when are they going to speak on Cardi b drugging men?
It's not just Fresh And Fit but the people that have the same mindset as them.
@@MegaIIII we all know it's wrong.
@@MegaIIIIjust like no one cares about Charleston raping women no one cares that cardi b drugged men. World is dumb
@@MegaIIII You're deflecting
The amount of anger and disgust i felt watching this was on another level, I have to sisters God forbid anything ever happen to them for their sake and the person who hurt them sakr
I don't want to be the one to tell you, but something like that will probably happen to at least one of them, but they just won't say anything.
It is almost always someone you know.
If you're an older brother, it might be one of your friends, it might be their teacher, their uncle, their boss, their classmate or coworker...
For me, it was my classmate's older brother. For many years I thought we were friends. I guess it was my mistake to think I could party and sleep safely in a house with all my friends.
I never told her, nor her mother (who was my teacher) what he did to me.
I didn't tell anyone.
Sometimes I wanted to, but I'm still ashamed, and I could never bring myself to break their hearts.
@@Zeverinsen DAMN, this broke my heart.
I would kill to protect the woman in my family from people like him😡
All us men need to rise up and kick them door in. They stay in Brickell Miami.
@@Zeverinsen That is awful, I am so sorry. But not telling people is allowing him to do that to others.
My bf has 3 sons with his previous wife. We want to have a child together in the future and he would love to have a daughter (although he’s totally fine with another son, priority is just having one of our own).
I have vocalized how scared I am to have a daughter. I am a woman and have experienced creepies. My strong Mexican mother taught me how to read creep signals and be aware of my surroundings all the time, every day to avoid being taken or raped or killed.
I just have so much anxiety about protecting a woman (daughter) growing up with how many exual predators there are out there. It truly scares me to have a daughter.
Thanks aba and preach for highlighting these creeps and making more people aware of the horrible people out there.
Nobody cares abt ur story 😂🤡
@@frankz9251 who asked
As a man I get infuriated when people say “men are evil” but I see and hear people like this man and I understand why. Such disgusting behavior.
Logically you're correct to feel that way. The phrase means that being evil is a trait that men have, when it's not the case. Only some men are like that. It's like saying "Dogs are aggressive"
They are truly evil
@@Ash_Wen-li Have you seen chihuahua?
@@Ash_Wen-li It's most men that are evil and I'll say the same for women too because if it were only some people that were evil, the world wouldn't be this fucked up
Wow you're so understanding of women, you're not like other girls. Totally not pretending sexist rhetoric is acceptable.
'we used to run trains without the woman's permission' oh my god, that's horrific!!
I wonder if he could say “we gang raped girls” with the same charisma
Absolute evil garbage this dude is
"Without permission" is grape, but they won't say that because they don't think of themselves as grapists because the woman didn't fight back smh
And most people still go crazy when I say murder is sometimes good. smh
@@filip6076 More like pest control, really
If only the boondocks was still running, him and dr umar would of been the highlights 😂😂😂
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He would’ve been the opposite of uncle ruckus
@Tai R he cool but he’s memeable. They’d probably still make fun of him
All the “I can’t be racist I’m black” clowns already been getting clowned since the start with ruckus. Boondocks always been the Goat
Bring Boodocks back! probably it would get cancelled right away though! 🤣😆
This guy probably has a record, and "known associates" and now he's online naming them, I hope someone somewhere is building a new case based on some cold case grape files.
The problem with society today is that hes saying "we was kidz" while most likely referring to a bunch of dudes in their mid-20s and genuinely believes that's accurate. You used to be considered, and would consider yourself, a legitimate man in your mid to late teens. These days men are 22+23+24+ and still acting like, and genuinely believing, they are still kids and that they should not be held accountable as adults for their actions. Society is infanticising young men and its going become more of a problem as time goes on.
Charleston white was in prison I his teens and 20s for murder. He brags about that too
Naw he went to jail in his teens for murder
@@leonabug619false news he doesn’t brag about it he’s just telling his story and he preaches for kids to lead better lives
I’m sorry I don’t mean to come across as rude. But at that point people are just stupid. Just because the brain stops developing in your mid 20s doesn’t mean someone is a “kid” in their early 20s
Good point. People have been thinking they are kids when they are full legal adults in their 20s. Being immature doesn't make you 15 when your really 22.
Girls’ biggest fear with men is that men might try to take advantage of them and make them feel unsafe and we don’t empathize with that enough. It don’t mean we gotta pamper them to death but at least don’t denounce their emotions. They are so dismissive of women’s emotions that there is no way they connect with any girls. These guys are chumps.
Your right ! I have male friends that i have known for 20 years and i refused to meet him and his work colleagues to hang out after we went out drinking. Nope i took my a** home!
@@vindexworld4636 same as a woman I can feel when I might be walking too close and making someone uncomfortable just cuz we are headed in the same direction. I just get in front or walk slower to gain space behind them.
Especially with the elderly Asian people on my morning walks since COVID happened and I live in an Asian community during a time where Asians were/are being attacked at higher rates.
Alot feel brave enough to get attitudes with random people.
Ofc. Who cares about their emotions. Their emotions are most of the reason why we got most problems on civilization level. Because evolution just decided for what ever f up reason that in order for our species to survive, we should form an bound and contract and call it anything you want, with an overgrown child that changes as the winds blow, can't and don't want reciprocate most things, cannot be reasoned with, is always a victim to shift accountability from what they are responsible for and list goes on and on.
In that sense, being a man is basically a curse.
They dismiss disrespectful women that come on trying to play the sympathy card. Cope more
It is scary to think of how many people look up to those fools in Miami. If that’s the next upcoming generation we are doomed. Keep up the great work ,I enjoy it. You guys speak of what it is to be real men. Thank you
I'm glad this is being talked about because this shit happens a LOT. I remember when I first started dating this new girl in Highschool and some seniors tried to bribe me into setting her up.
WHAT!?
Did you tell her?
SMH
It doesn't happen a lot. Stop lying
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I did time in the Texas prision system like this man did. I routinely heard stories like this and far far worse from dudes that had been in there 20+ years for some horrific shit. He belongs back in there with them.
He was young. But I’m sure your solution is to lock up All the black young boys partaking in this. I’m mean unlike your self righteous ass Charleston understands that it’s the culture that pumps out folks like him, his aim is to destroy the legitimacy of that culture. But yours is to let the culture keep going and lock up every product of the culture. Feeling guilty while having a strong sense of righteousness doesn’t make u better than those men in there. The ones who can go in there come out and understand what’s happening and push for better are a thousand live times better than you will be.
And now they want to put prisoners in women's prisons just for identifying as female with predictable consequences.
id say he deserves to be turned to ash while hes breathing. but your thing is much more humane. i just want human rights reserved for humans
he already did the time, he just talking about the past. whats the point to stay in forever. or you want him dead. theres no reason to pay tax payer money if you want people in prison for life, they might as well just die. and save 20K per prisoner.
I thought prisoners hid sexual allegations from fellow inmates
Daaaammn... hits close to home. I know someone whose entire life was changed by a group of boys manipulating a situation into something like this. Terrible. I have to regulate my breathing just thinking about it, gets me very angry.
How did they get her to come by herself?
@@jingleballs9935 Easy have one person asking to meet up with her that she likes and have the guys wait around back this is typical manipulation and peer pressure tactics
@@imanigordon6803 “easy”
Hilarious.
@@TacoMan99 bro ima be real here yea,i came from these circles and no there was no rape involved but dude manipulation and peer pressures is a real thing. Theres entire "game plans" a play book for this shit. And every group does this.
You’re so right, I’m grateful for men like you both.
The fact he gave away all names of his accomplices without recognizing the stupidity in doing so kills me
Arrogance is more like it. He thinks he's untouchable. I mean, he did murder someone and look at where he's at now
Hopefully the police make an arrest.
u guys are slow lol
@@sandrasolimine5794 they can’t arrest him due to statue of limitations
@@shadowknightchambers7931 But his buddies can sure deal with him, if street justice doesn't get them first.
My grandma said this was a thing when she was in her 20s and 30s. Her ex and his friends bragged about doing this to someone 😢 My grandma of course broke it off but it’s just unbelievable.
Heard that from another guy named Tommy Sotomayor. He talked about one of his cousins he had to help from being epar (read it backwards) from his own cousins and the family tried to cover it up or called him a "Uncle Tom" (they used worse language for the same effect) for stopping them and snitching. This was back when he was like 12. He's around 50's now.
This isn't even old behavior. Still happens now and probably going to even more since more boys are going to be born with no goo male role models, be raised by women or be surrounded by women who fear or hate men and look at them as a potential threat (already hearing stories like that where a mother was told to leave her 5 year old son on the street from trying to enter a women's shelter cause the other women felt unsafe while this mother came from an abusive husband) and it's pretty much going to continue.
The problem isn't that channels like this one Aba and Preach are able to talk. It's that they have so many people who listen and see what they are saying as right. It shows a fundamental problem where you have guys listening to this and agreeing so what the fuck is wrong in their life or where they grew up where they can hear this stuff and think it's good?
@@RavenCloak13I can't stand Tommy Sotomayor, but this puts some perspective on why he is the way he is. With family like that.... I am glad he was an "Uncle Tom" and a snitch, he's a hero for going against his family to save his cousin from his cousin's.
@@ThatGirlJD
You hate how he talks not what he thinks.
Even if I don't agree with everything he says, the majority of stuff he says isn't deplorable or even wrong. It's just he comes off as mean or sounds it because of his voice and tired of things said to him, his daughters, the people around him that degrade the Black community and people in general.
Like this isn't new or different. Stuff like this with people with close knit communities is pretty common when they value image and appearance of the group over integrity.
And people like him are the reason the great black rapist is a thing. I am like him needs to be strung up and have his man hood cut off.
I can honestly see Aba being a lawyer in an alternate timeline. The man pulls out receipts like Mary Poppins pulls out an entire Ikea store.
Totally agree.
Bro can’t debate live
@@Ma1q444 ever heard of preparation, even lawyers do it
@@Ma1q444 He's not a "debate bro".
For sure
I can’t believe dudes like these exist
U must not live in real life
Not even surprised. That’s the only way men like that can touch a woman. When she’s vulnerable and or unconscious.
Yeah, which is why I see most of these red pillers are fucking losers.
True, which is why on some level you can't really blame them. 😉 It's like blaming a crocodile for eating a small child, it's in its nature.
It's crazy smh
@@LIQUIDSNAKEz28 Oh, we can still blame them. It’s just not surprising 🤗
“We were kids.” Kids can’t grape. If you’re old enough to run a grape train you can’t use being a kid as an excuse.
The craziest part about the part where he asks the girls "who picks the guy?" is that they would be the same people who complain that girls will pretend to like guys and go on dates with guys to use them to get a free dinner.
Someone tell the one where was falsely accused of rape that it was his fault because he chose to be with that girl.
Exactly, this is a great point
"i got abused and cheated on" "your fault whyd you choose that man youre damaged goods, ugh modern women must start taking accountability"
How are the two related? I am asking for real. I don't see the link between the two and then the messed up things in the video.
Exactly. I'm starting to pick up on FnF's strategy though. They never put women on the show that know how to call out their contradictions or organize context. There are so many women streamers that can and will give them push back, but they don't put those women on the show. They pick random instagram girls who they know are unprepared and can't debate back. Therefore making Myron and Fresh look like they know what they're talking about.
It’s sad that all of our friends sisters cousins aunts are in danger where ever they go because of people like this
you know what's funny, he says "tell them no and leave." and when the girl on his show says she's uncomfortable and she's going to leave they berate her for it.
Perfect example. They think it’s the easiest thing in the world as a woman to tell a man no when they’ve proved time and time and time again why it isn’t
They hypocrites with zero self awareness. No surprise.