I’m so pissed about this too. I work the pre load twilight shift, and I work for Abf during the day. I’m trying to make the transition to become a driver, but they are not hiring at the moment and working two jobs is a killer. I don’t know when they gonna start hiring drivers again.
Yeah man, that sucks, I know what you're going through. I know how it is to work 2-3 jobs while waiting to drive. I did it in 2014 when I started. All I can say is stick with it. It's a battle of attrition as always, stay in position, and people will fall off. Good luck homie!
UPS customer service is horrible,,,,,, I wish there was away around them.. delivered to my rural address several times,,,, but can’t seem to find it now,,, and the people in Philippines are horrible to talk to
Sorry to hear that. I understand your frustrations. I would try to get the local number so you can call the local office directly. Maybe put in a corporate concern through customer service(I know), then you'll probably get a call back from the local dispatch office and ask them for their number for future issues. It's a private number, so you'll have to get it like that. Good luck!
Do the math, it's not really that simple. The CEO made 19 Million last year. That's a ton of money, sure, but if they're laying off 12k people. 12,000 X 80k salary is 960 Million. She could take nothing and work for free this year, and it would save a couple hundred people their jobs.. sure great, but its a drop in the bucket. The CEO deserves to make way more than anyone else, because of all the sway and risk they hold for the company, not to mention all the people like you hating on them, probably threatening them and their family every time something goes wrong, etc.. nobody would do that job for decent money like $200k/yr. It just wouldn't be worth all the stress. That's why they pay those people millions.
@@EileenTheCr0w Well put. I can’t stand when I hear talks about “the CEO needs to take less money or a pay cut”. What many people don’t know, their salary isn’t all cash, in most cases, most of executive compensation of publicly traded companies comes in stock equity. Which basically means that they have direct interest in the company doing well. But if the company doesn’t, of course you know…… If a company like this goes down, workers can go get another job, but executives lose WAY MORE! Therefore, the higher salaries are justified.
@@EileenTheCr0w me hating? Like how you’re hating on me? Lol. I’m not talking about the rich ass drivers, talking about the poor part timers who earn a lasting spot with the company
I’m an air driver for 11yrs I was affected and hrs cut in half. I have to be grieving everyday because I’m guarantee 8hrs. They trying to keep me no more the 4 1/2hrs and the work is there they send me home and let supervisors work.
Thanks I’m trying to stay strong. Looking for a side gig I can’t provide for my family and it’s ripping me apart. It’s very unfair and ppl with way less seniority gets offer to make u Their 4hrs.. so idk what’s up with doing this to air driver.
Due to natural attrition, such as retirements and such, there will always be opportunities. You just have to stay on the game. It's going to depend on building or center size and the staffing situation.
What’s good!! I applied for a tractor trailer/ Dock Worker position in Memphis, TN, which is now pending. It’s a permanent position not seasonal. I’m already a CDL A driver with all endorsements. Is there anything a person can do from a work ethics standpoint to avoid being laid off after peak season? Does the layoffs also involves any and all positions?
Thanks for your comment/question. Since it's a permanent position and not seasonal, that means they'd still most likely need you after peak season. There's no 100% of avoiding anything, however there must be a need there hence them hiring for a permanent position. Just do good work and remain valuable and let the chips fall where they may. Good luck and report back!
First of all, thanks for the subscribing and commenting. My thoughts are 2 fold: 1. Sort shutdowns: This is due primarily to lower volumes. I've talked about this in several videos on the volume numbers. But, it's not exclusive to UPS, it's industry wide. If a company see that they can do better fiscally by moving or closing a sort, they're probably going to do it. For instance, my building has a day sort. That sort has only been around for a few years. But if volume gets too low, I'm almost sure they'll combine it with the day sort at another facility down the street. It's kinda like an "extra" sort, unlike preload or twilight. 2. Automation: The building I work at was opened in 2018, one of the few "automated" buildings in the country. Once the packages are unloaded from the trailers, the sort and pal process is done by automation. Once it gets to the metros, it's sorted and loaded by people. Our preload sort has 300 workers. Automation is inevitable in society, but I think that in this case, it's used as a talking point for certain reasons. I believe that the automation piece has nothing to do with closing of sorts. In my opinion, automation doesn't necessarily mean no jobs for people, it just means that you're using technology to remain competitive and efficient, which is what everyone should want.
@BrickedOutMedia Thank you for the input. I've worked the night sort part-time for 28 years. We have about 150 people on that shift. We have a twilight and preload. Talk is they are collapsing our night sort. Our building is 30 years old, and Carol visited our building about 3 months ago. I understand the business side of their decision, and with my seniority, I'll be ok but not so much for my other teamster co workers. I was hired in July of 97, and the following month, we went on strike, and I don't remember the aftermath being like this. I love our brown army and wish us all the best. I look forward to watching your channel, Thank you.
I am a retired feeder. Still love this company and am concerned about shutting down Baltimore and other centers for a year. I have so many questions and no answers. Is UPS abandoning Baltimore area? How can they deliver while shutting down a whole center? If they are moving sort to Burtonsville are Baltimore workers allowed to follow work? There is not much doubt they will do this to every building. 🦇
Thank you for your comment and congrats on your retirement and years of service. I'm not familiar with this particular story, however, I'll do some research and do a review video of it. I would hope the work would be offered to existing UPSers first instead of hiring for positions to fill. I have heard of shutting down facilities to do renovations and temporarily relocating operations to other buildings. I'm not sure if that is the case here, but I'll research and report back.
@@BrickedOutMedia Thanks a lot. A driver who just retired told me it has happened in Pa some where and "mothertrucker channel did a video on Baltimore being shut down for a year!🦇
Numbers need to exclude pandemic numbers cause figures won’t be hit like that again. Have to compare numbers today to that prior to 2020 Covid so more like base figures against 2019 volume to today.
I can do a video on 2019 numbers versus today's numbers, I can tell you, it's down. I compared qtr4 2022 to qtr4 2023, which I think is fair. But question, at what point (month) do you stop counting volume as covid volume?
Thanks for your comment. If they're hiring right now, that means that there is a imminent need for that position, therefore I would assume that you'll be good. Congrats!!
UPS is not a career to start after 30 Especially if you are educated I know from experience Brutal physical labor and new part time “managers” who have no experience in shipping
Thanks for your comment. I agree on the part about the part time supervisors and even many of the full time supervisors as well. UPS isn't for most people, educated or not. I think that's an interesting conversation to have, I've spoken to many drivers, nothing is absolute. There's always a mixed bag. I've spoken with educated drivers who would agree and disagree with you, so I think it's multilayered.
UPS is a joke. They are notorious for messing deliveries up and will constantly change tracking updates. I had two out for delivery messages that were later updated to changed due to receiver's instructions when I never requested that. I was then told the package was being inspected for damage. It was a frickin tire. They are extremely incompetent and customer service is horrendous. They need to be held accountable
Thanks for your comment. Interesting point. I agree with you. I don't think it's certainly one issue, however I think that's one of them. There was a driver in my building drove until his mid 70's. He could barely walk and they had to cater the route to his capabilities, prime example. Something definitely should be done about that.
@@BrickedOutMedia the company spends about 4 dollars on stock buybacks and dividend payments for every ONE dollar it spends on labor compensation and benefits and its labor that's killing the company? Give me a break.
@BrickedOutMedia The company spends about 4 times what it spends on stock buybacks and dividends than what it spends on labor costs. It's not labor costs that's "destroying" ups as much as it is the corporate looters like Carol making sure they are getting a big boost on their stock options and dividends.
I’m so pissed about this too. I work the pre load twilight shift, and I work for Abf during the day. I’m trying to make the transition to become a driver, but they are not hiring at the moment and working two jobs is a killer. I don’t know when they gonna start hiring drivers again.
Yeah man, that sucks, I know what you're going through. I know how it is to work 2-3 jobs while waiting to drive. I did it in 2014 when I started. All I can say is stick with it. It's a battle of attrition as always, stay in position, and people will fall off. Good luck homie!
@@BrickedOutMedia I appreciate that bro
@@ThePtballa087 I gotcha fam
UPS customer service is horrible,,,,,, I wish there was away around them.. delivered to my rural address several times,,,, but can’t seem to find it now,,, and the people in Philippines are horrible to talk to
Sorry to hear that. I understand your frustrations. I would try to get the local number so you can call the local office directly. Maybe put in a corporate concern through customer service(I know), then you'll probably get a call back from the local dispatch office and ask them for their number for future issues. It's a private number, so you'll have to get it like that. Good luck!
You know the CEO can take a SMALL paycut and that would save many jobs for people who actually break a sweat working hard
Are you willing to take a pay cut? I already know the answer to that.
Do the math, it's not really that simple. The CEO made 19 Million last year. That's a ton of money, sure, but if they're laying off 12k people. 12,000 X 80k salary is 960 Million. She could take nothing and work for free this year, and it would save a couple hundred people their jobs.. sure great, but its a drop in the bucket. The CEO deserves to make way more than anyone else, because of all the sway and risk they hold for the company, not to mention all the people like you hating on them, probably threatening them and their family every time something goes wrong, etc.. nobody would do that job for decent money like $200k/yr. It just wouldn't be worth all the stress. That's why they pay those people millions.
@@EileenTheCr0w Well put. I can’t stand when I hear talks about “the CEO needs to take less money or a pay cut”. What many people don’t know, their salary isn’t all cash, in most cases, most of executive compensation of publicly traded companies comes in stock equity. Which basically means that they have direct interest in the company doing well. But if the company doesn’t, of course you know……
If a company like this goes down, workers can go get another job, but executives lose WAY MORE! Therefore, the higher salaries are justified.
@@EileenTheCr0w me hating? Like how you’re hating on me? Lol. I’m not talking about the rich ass drivers, talking about the poor part timers who earn a lasting spot with the company
When Jim Casey was the boss his salary was modest for a CEO.
I’m an air driver for 11yrs I was affected and hrs cut in half. I have to be grieving everyday because I’m guarantee 8hrs. They trying to keep me no more the 4 1/2hrs and the work is there they send me home and let supervisors work.
Thank you for your comment. If the situation is the way you've explained, then you're doing the right thing. Good luck and stay strong!!
Thanks I’m trying to stay strong. Looking for a side gig I can’t provide for my family and it’s ripping me apart. It’s very unfair and ppl with way less seniority gets offer to make u
Their 4hrs.. so idk what’s up with doing this to air driver.
Love the video! Thanks brother!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for your support!!
You think they are going to need more driver in the future for the warehouse worker who’s been waiting for a driver position?
Due to natural attrition, such as retirements and such, there will always be opportunities. You just have to stay on the game. It's going to depend on building or center size and the staffing situation.
What’s good!! I applied for a tractor trailer/ Dock Worker position in Memphis, TN, which is now pending. It’s a permanent position not seasonal. I’m already a CDL A driver with all endorsements. Is there anything a person can do from a work ethics standpoint to avoid being laid off after peak season? Does the layoffs also involves any and all positions?
Thanks for your comment/question. Since it's a permanent position and not seasonal, that means they'd still most likely need you after peak season. There's no 100% of avoiding anything, however there must be a need there hence them hiring for a permanent position. Just do good work and remain valuable and let the chips fall where they may. Good luck and report back!
What are your thoughts about the collapsing of complete sorts due to the automation coming?
First of all, thanks for the subscribing and commenting.
My thoughts are 2 fold:
1. Sort shutdowns: This is due primarily to lower volumes. I've talked about this in several videos on the volume numbers. But, it's not exclusive to UPS, it's industry wide. If a company see that they can do better fiscally by moving or closing a sort, they're probably going to do it. For instance, my building has a day sort. That sort has only been around for a few years. But if volume gets too low, I'm almost sure they'll combine it with the day sort at another facility down the street. It's kinda like an "extra" sort, unlike preload or twilight.
2. Automation: The building I work at was opened in 2018, one of the few "automated" buildings in the country. Once the packages are unloaded from the trailers, the sort and pal process is done by automation. Once it gets to the metros, it's sorted and loaded by people. Our preload sort has 300 workers. Automation is inevitable in society, but I think that in this case, it's used as a talking point for certain reasons. I believe that the automation piece has nothing to do with closing of sorts. In my opinion, automation doesn't necessarily mean no jobs for people, it just means that you're using technology to remain competitive and efficient, which is what everyone should want.
@BrickedOutMedia Thank you for the input. I've worked the night sort part-time for 28 years. We have about 150 people on that shift. We have a twilight and preload. Talk is they are collapsing our night sort. Our building is 30 years old, and Carol visited our building about 3 months ago. I understand the business side of their decision, and with my seniority, I'll be ok but not so much for my other teamster co workers. I was hired in July of 97, and the following month, we went on strike, and I don't remember the aftermath being like this. I love our brown army and wish us all the best. I look forward to watching your channel, Thank you.
@@Debbers55 Thanks for watching, I appreciate you.
@BrickedOutMedia My pleasure, thank you for the information! 🤎🤎
I am a retired feeder. Still love this company and am concerned about shutting down Baltimore and other centers for a year. I have so many questions and no answers. Is UPS abandoning Baltimore area? How can they deliver while shutting down a whole center? If they are moving sort to Burtonsville are Baltimore workers allowed to follow work? There is not much doubt they will do this to every building. 🦇
Thank you for your comment and congrats on your retirement and years of service. I'm not familiar with this particular story, however, I'll do some research and do a review video of it. I would hope the work would be offered to existing UPSers first instead of hiring for positions to fill. I have heard of shutting down facilities to do renovations and temporarily relocating operations to other buildings. I'm not sure if that is the case here, but I'll research and report back.
@@BrickedOutMedia Thanks a lot. A driver who just retired told me it has happened in Pa some where and "mothertrucker channel did a video on Baltimore being shut down for a year!🦇
Numbers need to exclude pandemic numbers cause figures won’t be hit like that again. Have to compare numbers today to that prior to 2020 Covid so more like base figures against 2019 volume to today.
I can do a video on 2019 numbers versus today's numbers, I can tell you, it's down. I compared qtr4 2022 to qtr4 2023, which I think is fair. But question, at what point (month) do you stop counting volume as covid volume?
That’s why I said to compare 2019 numbers to today. But 2022 to 2023 is accurate too because Covid was over qtr4 of 22.
Im about to start at ups as a mechanic do you think this is something thats going to effect the mechanics?
Thanks for your comment. If they're hiring right now, that means that there is a imminent need for that position, therefore I would assume that you'll be good. Congrats!!
@@BrickedOutMedia thank you!
UPS is not a career to start after 30 Especially if you are educated
I know from experience
Brutal physical labor and new part time “managers” who have no experience in shipping
Thanks for your comment. I agree on the part about the part time supervisors and even many of the full time supervisors as well.
UPS isn't for most people, educated or not. I think that's an interesting conversation to have, I've spoken to many drivers, nothing is absolute. There's always a mixed bag. I've spoken with educated drivers who would agree and disagree with you, so I think it's multilayered.
UPS is a joke. They are notorious for messing deliveries up and will constantly change tracking updates. I had two out for delivery messages that were later updated to changed due to receiver's instructions when I never requested that. I was then told the package was being inspected for damage. It was a frickin tire. They are extremely incompetent and customer service is horrendous. They need to be held accountable
Ok, this isn't the place to hold them accountable, but thanks for watching and commenting!
The problem is it’s not enough drivers retiring !!! They really need to start force retirement after 30 years. It’s creating greed in the Union.
Thanks for your comment. Interesting point. I agree with you. I don't think it's certainly one issue, however I think that's one of them. There was a driver in my building drove until his mid 70's. He could barely walk and they had to cater the route to his capabilities, prime example. Something definitely should be done about that.
it's greed on both sides
People can’t afford to retire. That’s a big part of it.
@@user-cc5od3zk4p I Agree!! Several factors are contributing to that.
You won't feel that way when your 30 comes up.🦇
Is it me or is he on mute
Thanks for your comment. The audio is off on this video. I was still learning at the time.
Labor cost are destroying ups
I agree. Increased labor costs/expenses due to the new contract along with low volumes and reduced revenues is an unideal combination.
@@BrickedOutMedia the company spends about 4 dollars on stock buybacks and dividend payments for every ONE dollar it spends on labor compensation and benefits and its labor that's killing the company? Give me a break.
@@Nuttymike What part of what I said was wrong? You practically agreed with me.
@BrickedOutMedia The company spends about 4 times what it spends on stock buybacks and dividends than what it spends on labor costs. It's not labor costs that's "destroying" ups as much as it is the corporate looters like Carol making sure they are getting a big boost on their stock options and dividends.
@@Nuttymike Get out of your feelings, I actually study the balance sheet, you’re wrong.