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Cummins swapped M35A2 test drive. Let's go!
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2019
- The moment you've all been waiting for! Just fyi, every time the camera went skyward was because of hard acceleration, not poor placement.
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Probably the fastest M35 in the country. Disk brakes and hydroboost needed soon.
Not!!! My M35a2 will tact out at 95 without any boost.
Great Job Garrett, 90 mph in a M35A2, I would have never imagined it was possible!
I said 90 in the video but it probably is much closer to 80.
id shit my pants if i went 90 mph in a deuce haha
@@tacticalrepair holy cows !!!
that incredible, almost unbelievable if it wasn’t coming from you.. I mean you’ve got some real talent brother. Great Job!!! That’s the fastest I’ve ever heard one of these trucks going in my life.
I love those trucks! The cummins is the icing on the cake
Epic piece of equipment you built, hope you are as proud as we are!
Had no idea you could get those speeds with rockwell axles. Might consider this set up and axles for my 67 C60.
I definitely wouldn't try to maintain that speed tho
@@nathanlebaron5867 can do 66 mph@2500 now. Got A3 axles, Goodyear G177's and got a T1118 overdrive t case. Using my 366 and 5652 spicer my truck originally came with. Cruise speed is spot on the sweet spot of peak torque. Truck drives and tows excellent.
@@bladenrexroth2555 is that the c60? Nice truck. I'm talking about the m35.
@@nathanlebaron5867 the tires won't take it and the axle shafts would probably warp under the rpm and heat.
Congrats buddy! So glad you were able to get her running. I'm sure this day has been long coming for you! Looks like for a Deuce it has some guts behind it on acceleration now though! Brings a smile to my face seeing you back on the road.
Congrats! Thank you for sharing with us!! You're a great inspiration to us Old Green Iron guys.
Last I remember, Ouverson Engineering had 8 lug hubs, disk brakes, and a 4.88:1 gear set for those axles.
Yup. Really expensive.
Damn! That really hauls the mail now! Massive improvement! Congrats!!
Riding in this thing was among the highlights, of my adult life. She's slick!
Wow what a difference. Sounds awesome! Congratulations!
Always wanted to do a 2stroke swap on one since I seen one a lack farmer had it with a big grain box on it you could hear it 2 miles away.
Greased the front hubs. Great. Different video. Subscribed.
DAMN!!! YOUR TRUCK IS AWESOME!!! I COULD WATCH THIS OVER AND OVER!!!
I still do!🤣
@Tactical Repair don't blame you I'm sure it still gives you a rush!!! I need to take a ride in it some day!
@@X-Appeal if I ever can get home I don't mind. Looks like I may be buying a home in Thailand though.😃
@@tacticalrepair That's cool. Best of luck in all you do! May success follow you!
@@X-Appeal check the community tab and you'll see why.
Now that not only sound good but will haul it, sure like the gauges, glad to see you on a test run and bringing us along, you hard work is worth what we just saw, thanks, Joe G.
Thanks Joe! I'll have to take you for a ride sometime.
My 5 ton don't sound that good, course it has a straight pipe going all the way to the end of the bed, hey question I want to put some Led light strip in the cab under the dash and just under the edge of the seat, can I tie into the 12 volt going to the heater or should I get a 24 Volt to 12 Volt step down.
The heater is 24 volt. The strip lights should be omni- volt though.
new word to me, omni-volt through, if you have time could you point me in that direction, what is needed, thanks, Joe G.
Congrats Garrett
My duece with the 84th Transportation Co. had a 290 Cummins when she got back from refurbished cycle
>MAX 50 MPH
*as he goes 90
the max of 50 was likely a power limit not a handling limit. iirc the original engines in these things were rated somewhere around 150hp which is peanuts for something this big.
@@TKTmon 135hp actually, that's less than 4 cylinder 1.6l Hyundai Accent which is considered a compact entry level car...
@@Nikowalker007 they’re basically tractor motors in a military truck
@@MurderVetteZ True
What a piece of kit! Very envious, all the best, Ian
Awesome job on that one. I had a 1970 5 ton multi- fuel. 165 horse 330 ft lb of torque ticking Time Bomb junk motor I see how that thing pulls with the Cummins in it if that's only a 5'9 oh my God day and night difference
Congratulations. Sounds awesome
Im sorry I haven’t watched the entire series. Are you using the stock spicer 5 speed mated to a 5.9 12v?
Yes, but with the no longer available Waterloo overdrive installed in the transmission.
Tactical Repair that’s awesome. I’m hoping to do a 5.9 swap soon on my A2. Having fuel pump issues on the multifuel. Just got the brakes done and new a3 wheels on.
Can you please download the dB meter app, calibrate it, and show us if you're under 90dB when flooring it?
Deuce & Guns showed the stock Kaiser motor was 90dB, max (low 80's during idle...yikes), so I wonder if the
6BT is quieter?
Wow!!!! I can't imagine going that fast in my Deuce! Amazing work!
Bad ass! Love it man! Awesome work brother.
Thats a rad build, I love it mate well done.
It can’t be done, is it really done?!? Congrats man, it must have felt really good to drive it.
Not done, but drivable.
Sounds amazing very nice build
very nice truck...sounds really strong
It is very strong!
Man, runs lots faster 😂
Still watching this multiple times and dreaming, at least now I actually got the power steering kit, wish he still made that overdrive kit
Wow that's really impressive thanks for posting😊👍👍
I just scored a 5.9 for my bus that the universe won't let me give up on. Now I have to choose between running the at545 that's currently on the cummins or spending another grand to get the sae2 flywheel housing and clutch parts for the cummins so I can put the fso6406 I built behind it.
@@wildcard2058 would be slow as shit with that automatic in it.
@@tacticalrepair I know. :( I really want to run that six speed. All that effort to adapt it to a LDT is out the window, hate to lose the rebuild time and parts cost too if I end up selling it. No one seems to be buying anything lately. I'll be happy if I can get it out on the forest road though, even if top speed is only 50.
@@wildcard2058 so your Allison has an SAE3 bellhousing and your Eaton has an SAE2, right? You could probably get an SAE3 bellhousing for the Eaton pretty cheap and just run a 13" clutch, which would be cheaper.
@@tacticalrepair I'm $4k in the hole now and no hope for rent coming up. I gotta make do with what's here. Never even seen a SAE3 clutch housing for a fuller FS series though, and the clutch housing probably costs as much as the sae2 flywheel housing I'd need.
@@wildcard2058 sorry to hear that man. Sounds like it's about time to get the fuck outta there.
Very cool, congratulations!
Thanks!
Awesome job!
Looks like it is still just as loud!
What do you think about swapping in a LDS multifuel? Seems like it should be a direct swap and they have have 200hp compared to the LDT 130hp and 440 ft Ibs of torque compared to 330
That's what I had before this swap. They perform great. The problem is longevity. Mine gave me about 50,000 miles before it shattered a liner and jammed the piston at the bottom of the stroke right in the driveway. When I pulled the oil pan there were large pieces of liner laying in it and the engine was locked up. After four different multifuel engines I wanted an engine that would last. The Cummins is also lighter by a few hundred pounds, cheaper and easier to get parts for, and way easier to upgrade. The lower front end weight is very noticeable while driving. Much nicer handling and acceleration.
@@tacticalrepair What's the best things you think can be done with the multifuel to make it last?
@@hummerguy ARP head studs, o-ring the heads, and have the rotating assembly balanced. Still leaves you with the issue of liners shattering though. When that happens at speed, it jams a piston, breaks a rod and knocks a hole in the block.
The work I just listed cost so much that you could just buy a 5.9L Cummins instead. That's why I say it really isn't cost effective to rebuild the multifuel anymore.
@@tacticalrepair Another question, would a built NV4500 be able fit with the 5.9 cummins since the engine is 6 inches shorter than the multifuel?
@@hummerguy I'm not sure because I don't know how long the 4500 is. It might if you push the engine forward, but then you need to look at oil pan clearance to either the front crossmember or the axle, depending on which way you have the pan installed. You also need to find out what the overdrive ratio of it is. The Spicer is .89-1 ratio, so you want that or lower, like .79 or .69 or something. You don't want to cut your top end speed.
Wow! That’s impressive. I can’t keep my truck on the road over 62 mph. The 46” super singles bounce off the highway like super balls. Lol. I’ve gradually increased the number of Dynabeads to 1.5 lb per tire with little improvement in the tire hopping. Are you still running the stock Saginaw or did you swap the transmission with something a little more user friendly? I’ve considered a Cummins swap in the future but the LDT keeps plugging away happily without a care. Has been far more durable than I was led to believe when I purchased the truck 5 years ago.
Correction... I intended to say Spicer transmission. Lol. I’m ready for a nap!
Holy Moly! That's awesome!
3200 RPM spring. 🤙 That's what's up.
So I guess that 50 mile per hour stencil need to get painted over
Right, I didn't think you could get one of these trucks rolling that fast. I love it though
John 🤣
Awesome rig
How much torque is going through the trans and t case? Can't imagine it being much more than 450-475 ft#'s?
I can't say for sure, but and educated guess would be around 550-600. The older first generation 6BT engines with small turbo, small injection pump and injectors did 400 lb/ ft stock. The P7100 pumped engines were much more powerful, and I've done a little bit with the fuel plate on this one too.
@@tacticalrepair what were the factory overdrive gear ratios for the 3053a? I'm seeing .86, .85, .83 and .79. How hard would it be to find a trans with a .79 OD or just a gearing swap?
@@bladenrexroth2555 the 3053A in the military application have a .89 5th ratio. There are plenty of other transmissions with better overdrive ratio, many of them are five and six speed options from Eaton. Problem is they're all longer and require moving the transfer case back a few inches and then making corresponding driveshaft modifications. Not an insurmountable task, just not something I've had the time and money to do. They're also rated for much more torque than the 3053A.
Time 4 disc brakes and speed rated tires lol!
These tires are speed rated. Disk brakes in the near future.
@@tacticalrepair nice job man, your hardwork payed off. glad we got to see ya get it done
@@johndowe7003 not quite " done", but it is driveable. I'm working on it at this very moment actually.
@@tacticalrepair aweseome, its nice seeing you get shit done. motivates me more to mess with my crap
What gear ratio are you running in the axles?
Are you using the stock transmission? What adaptor plate (if any) did you use for the 6bt conversion?
Used an SAE2 clutch housing and an SAE2 to SAE3 adapter ring. The stock transmission is SAE3. I could've used an SAE3 clutch housing and just bolted it up with no adapter but I wanted to install a big 14" clutch, which won't fit inside an SAE3 housing.
Have you considered a 8.3 swap?
Will fit, but barely. Heavy as the multifuel and leaves no room for an intercooler. Less advantageous than the 5.9L.
Great video
Is this a Cummins conversion with the original transmission or is that swapped as well? I'm tossing around the idea of getting a deuce in the future and would want to do a Cummins swap for sure
Oh man so cool. Whats your mpg with the cummins? I used to work on five tons and hummers in the marines back in the 90s. We didnt have deuce and a halfs. But i always liked them for the size.
Around 14mpg. More if I drive it sensibly.
5.9l kind of small for this application? well, maybe good for personal use like here. But a bigger engine prob would last longer for severe duty in military use.
Nah. They had these engines in school busses, day cab semi tractors, and rollback wreckers, heavy equipment, etc. Mine came out of an F800 wrecker.
Moves out well and tows like a champ. As far as longevity is concerned, I bet it lasts longer than 50,000 miles like the original multifuel engines. And rebuild parts are still plentiful.
Could you put a go pro camera on the bill of your ball cap?
Now, yes. Back then all I had was my phone.
What a horse... Have you ever looked into a transmission swap to turn some lower RPM's while cruising? I've always wondered about it, but could never find any good answers. Figured i'd ask the man!
I have the Waterloo overdrive in this one so it's already way better than a stock transmission.
I have figured out the best replacement 5speed that holds more power and has an even higher ratio overdrive though. Eaton TO-11605A with the .66 ratio 5th.
@@tacticalrepair Awesome man, love the videos, keep em' comin!!!
Cummins power💪
I think the the L-465 whistler sounds nicer.
I have an 8.3 we were thinking about trying to put in an M35.
I know it's been done, but maybe not worth the effort?
Not really worth using that ever a 5.9L. Yes it has been done but it's a real tight fit, no room for an air charge cooler, too heavy for the front end, too much off idle torque for the drivetrain, etc.
@@tacticalrepair Are you saying that even the 5.9 is not worth it?
Remember, I'm the guy with the Canadian M35s where we use Fuel Pincher Detroits.
@@frankdwyer7051 the 5.9L is definitely worth it. The 8.3L is not the best choice in my opinion. Just a bit too physically large.
@@tacticalrepair That's what I thought, just confirming. Will look into weather or not the 5.9 will bolt to the Allison Auto in our trucks.
We have another use for our 8.3.
Thank you sir, I hope you are well.
@@frankdwyer7051 it will bolt to it. Just have to make sure you get the right flywheel housing for the back of the 5.9L. I'm not sure if you need an SAE2 or SAE3 for your Allison. Look for one like mine that would've come in an early 90's Ford F700 or 800. They had the same Allison, so the housing is also the right depth for the torque converter and flexplate.
Did you keep the spicer transmission?
What flavor of Cummins does it have? 5.9 or 8.3?
12v 5.9L
Sick
Where can I get a 3100r pm governor spring ?
Powerdrivendiesel.com
What cummins engine is this?
This is a 1994 industrial P-pumped 5.9L 12 valve out of a Ford F-800 wrecker.
What is that auxiliary Guage pod mount
Built it myself.
Dang, I was hoping to find one like it. Make a bunch and sell them so I can buy one! 😂
Here you go:
Mount this on your sliding rear window: www.amazon.com/Mpow-Holder-Windshield-Button-Anti-Skid/dp/B010RQWSE2/ref=sr_1_15?crid=30VU6IIUXOLLU&keywords=phone+holder+for+car+under+%2413&qid=1569004779&s=gateway&sprefix=phone&sr=8-15
Mount this where ever you have steel: www.amazon.com/Yukon-Glory-Stainless-Tailgating-Accessories/dp/B01NCZP3RN/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2JB0TO5BNOT9Q&keywords=magnetic+cup+holder&qid=1569004916&s=gateway&sprefix=magnetic+cup%2Caps%2C195&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyOFRKQ1oyUzQ5OUM0JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTQxNzA5MkhHT0pMVjNMTEdNNiZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwNzUzNTQ2VVFJTEVOMkpWQ0c4JndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfYXRmJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==
New speedometer
Should have kept the multifuel
Wore out three in less than five years of driving it. At some point, you need a motor that lasts longer.
Does it stop?
Yes.
seeing it survive a 6bt and you putting your foot in it like that with a common dry weight around 14k, i guess my 3053a in my dodge should live a happy life lol... very nice work man. now i want a cummins deuce to.. imma go broke haha
That pull style slave still throws me off.🤣
@@tacticalrepair did you see the video of it in operation. works great, pedal is actually very similar to OEM. shorter travel though so i gotta make a pedal stop. i fear ill break something if i don't.
No I didn't. I'm sure it works great, it just is different.
@@tacticalrepair was a lot easier than trying to adapt the dodge to use a cable, or linkage. stock dodge master, pull style slave, an3 adapter fittings, 48" stainless braided line. simple works, can get replacement parts at orileys. planned for roadside repairs.
@@nathan00campbell oh I know, but you could've used a push style slave and a similar bracket built differently. Really a matter of preference at that point though.
Which cummins did you put in it?
12 valve 6BT
@@tacticalrepair Lol yeah i saw that as i watched more videos. I was just impatient. Lol sweet swap. I had a '94. Good upgrade for the A2.
I couldn't be more pleased with it.
MPG?
15
Think you need a speedo recal...
I've already checked it against GPS. It's close enough. Max I've achieved is 81 mph.
@@tacticalrepair hmmm. 80's a touch faster than I'd ever want one of these trucks rolling down the highway. Good on you I guess...
@@bmw328igearhead it is fast, but I don't cruise at that speed. Normally around 60-65, but now I can pass at normal highway speeds. My tires and tubes are good, and brakes and hubs get service twice a year. It's pretty safe.