For my office, I've bought 3 Apple Studio Displays and, this week, we got a Viewfinity S9 for a worker. We got the Samsung at a huge discount based on a Black Friday deal. I was thinking that it would be comparable to the Studio Display (which is not on sale). OK - for our office the S9 is much worse. Comparing the build quality is night & day. The Studio Display is way (WAY) better quality. It was easier to set up. The sound is amazing (although these are work computers so we don't really care about the speakers, TBH). Picture quality is similar but the S9 has a yellow tinge that we can't fix. We may need to mess with the settings. Not sure. For our office, Studio Display is 9/10 (it loses a point from the price). S9 is 6/10.
@@alastairclarke So what exactly is wrong with S9 for the actual work? Some yellow tint? Everything else you listed sounds like it doesn't really matter.
@@vadever I'm sure it's fine for some users. In my office, the S9 is not even connected to a computer anymore. It's just sitting in an empty cubicle. A very expensive paperweight!
The main factor I will consider is that you can connect a PC and a Mac and switch between them. If only Apple allowed for more inputs! I was surprised by how close they were after calibration; initially, the Samsung looked washed out.
A single display input is the biggest deal breaker for me on the studio. Hell even if you didn’t use a PC/Mac, you can’t even use a Mac Studio/MacBook together
I usually dislike content with auto-narrating. However, for some reason your choice of narrator felt a bit more natural, and I was able to enjoy the decent information you provided. Thanks for the video!
Thanks, Joe, for the 2nd video. Adding more perspective for Apple Studio Display. If you are a Windows user, Display Studio won't make sense. If you are a Mac user, ASD is the only 5K retina display that does justice to macOS. It renders beautiful, crisp fonts and colors and supports macOS' true tone colors, which adjust automatically based on ambient lighting conditions. Just bought the Apple Studio Display (ASD) a few days ago. Brightness is 600 nits, which is excellent, and I usually run it at half brightness level. The camera is okay, but not the best. I'd probably use my Logitech camera for calls instead of the in-built one. The speakers are better than most found on monitors. The build quality is impressive. It looks, feels, and works like an Apple device. I went for the glossy display with a tilt-only stand. I didn't think spending extra on the height-adjustable stand or nano-texture was worthwhile as there are other ways I can play with the height (riser, table height, etc.), and I don't have any direct sunlight hitting the display, so nano-texture wasn't needed. I also read (no direct evidence) that nano texture coating requires additional care and is prone to scratching. I was waiting for the launch of Samsung's Viewfinity S9 (5K 27 inch). After its launch in some Asian markets and price of over $1,300 - as a Mac user, it made sense to buy the Apple Studio Display for the cohesiveness with the Apple ecosystem and the fact that it will just work. You don't need to set/tweak settings. Plugin the Thunderbolt cable & supply power, and you're ready. The Studio Display also comes with firmware updates and has an A13 bionic chip (used in iPhone 11) embedded in it. Apart from being fancy, they have not fully captured the placement of this powerful chip (maybe it's used for the web camera, cooling functions, or spatial audio of the speakers). I also considered buying the LG Ultrafine 5K display (half price of ASD), but given it's 6 years old and most LG panels from that era suffer from the pink hue issue, I decided against it. Some other notable mentions: a. can control speaker volume from the Apple keyboard b. can adjust screen brightness from the Apple keyboard c. the ambient light sensor is on the far left on the top chin of the monitor, so you can mount your own web camera in the center of the top chin without worrying about blocking the ambient light sensor d. In India, this monitor ships with a 15A power plug, so you need access to a power plug light point I'll keep adding stuff here as I learn more and use it as my daily driver. ASD's price is obnoxious, but most Apple products are priced that way. If you spend many hours in front of your macOS screen, ASD is an expensive but makes-sense choice for Mac users.
ASD worth the price. It is the best choice for mac user. I also don't want something fancy but a good monitor. smart functions make me feel upset after I using this like a week.
@@joekongsan agree, the samsung isn't that much cheaper and im glad i bought the ASD. it just works, i don't need the extra stuff. i got the one with the vesa mount and the height/tilt is not an issue.
Thank you for this insight!! Great job!! The Samsung monitor looks like a very cool alternative to the Apple display, especially if you have to switch from Mac to Windows at times!! Cheers from Italy!!
I think Samsung did a good job. The screen wobble and speakers are a disappointment, but I wear my AirPods most of the time so not a big deal.. I might actually pick one up and give it a shot if the price is right.
Great comparison. I know you don't want to continue in English beyond the intro, but it's good practise and you sound good when you try. I'm in Khon Kaen :)
It takes so much time narrating the English VDO as it's kind of hard for some words and I planned launching my clip last night so I decide using the AI voice. Hope you like the video! and khob-khun-krub for watching! :D
@@joekongsan You did a nice job. I wish there was more of a price difference here in Thailand. About 10,000 baht difference. But with Samsung, no return policy and impossible to get warranty honored here like with the Apple store.
Do note that Apple offers nano texture glass. Which is similar to a Matt panel. Albeit, it’s more expensive. If you like everything about the studio display but the glass finish, you may want to shell out for the nano texture glass.
이 두 제품을 고민하고 있는 사람으로서 좋은 영상이었어! 이 제품을 두고 고민하는 사람들은 samsung viewfinity s9이 apple studio display 대비 화질 등 모니터 본연의 기능이 얼마나 충족될 지 궁금해 하는데, 다른 유튜버들의 영상은 제품의 마감새나 스피커 같은 고려하지 않는 점들만 비교하더라고. 아마도 화면 비교에 대한 지식이 없어서 인 것 같아보여. 다른 너의 영상도 기대할께.
I bet you anything they did this to try and force people to do tv commerce through tizen store etc. But just like w/ Apple, that makes using a ps5 with it or xbox impossible
Listing all S9's features that hasn't in the Studio Display and the screen calibration achieving so close results is what I was looking for. Thank you! But, the lack of the Studio Display's fidelity sound on the S9 makes me still thinking on the Apple's device. If S9 comes much cheaper, under US$ 700, I can thin about it. More than this I prefer to invest on Apple device, knowing that I can sell it later with a goo price, if I wish. But, I'm thinking now... for the monitors getting so close in brightness and colors, didi you downgrade the Studio Display on the calibration section?
Greate Review, Greate Job! It seems that the S9 has a game mode, is it related to VRR features such as FreeSync or G-Sync Compatible? When connect it to game console which only support 4K, how would S9 handle the input?
What about ups glow? Which one has worse ups glow? Is any of these two better at ips glow compared to a normal mid range monitor. And no backlight bleeding right?
@@joekongsan system settings > displays > then change resolution What all options are listed there? You can also try system settings > displays > advanced > and enable "show resolutions as list " if it doesn't show list by default
If possible, could you please test if its possible to connect a Windows PC via the usb-c or mini displayport and still get a 5K image? The main reason why I'm considering buying this monitor is to be able to use both my Mac via Thunderbolt and my PC via usb-c or mini display port.
Hi could you do a disk speed test on the I/O ports of the S9? Wonder if they work well or share bandwidth if multiple external drives are plugged in at once. Thank you!
The glaring error, that Apple, which built a powerful A13 chip and an iOS operating system into this monitor, didn't add WIFI to get at least Airplay Mirroring, is stupid. This monitor could drive a full tvOS…
sometimes you have to wonder how the decision making works at Apple. They build a beautiful display out of premium materials with great speakers and a chip that could make it a standalone smart display, but then they decide not to add ANYTHING besides Siri and Atmos processing to it 🤦♂ They should have put tvOS into it, because with the built in power adaptor you could easily pick it up and take it anywhere and start playing TV on it. I love mine (with nano texture), but I am disappointed in this way.
@@ezBeanie it's about the same price... the ASD can be found cheaper at the moment actually. You can find an ASD with vesa mount for 1480 Euro's ... an S9 will apparently cost 1599 Euro's... both will need a seperate vesa stand. The base model ASD has a tilt stand and can be found for about the same price as the s9.
I saw and listened in many other videos that the viewfinity s9 monitor spearks are not working well.its true? 😮otherside ,could I connect asus rogstrix gt 531 laptop to the Apple Studio Display?
One question, if you connect an s23, and activate the Dex mode, can viewfinity charge through the usb type c connection to the s23? And if the answer is yes... you can use the pause USB power delivery?
I tried out two other 5K monitors that use the same panel, the ViewSonic VG2781-5k and the Rich Vision RV100. Both had a noticeable graininess on the screen surface due to the coarse matte texture, especially when reading documents with white backgrounds and black text. Does the Samsung Viewfinity S9 5K have the same issue?
@@bernaferrari Then a 5K matte screen is contradictory; the PPI of a 4K matte screen matches the granularity of the matte, so they don't interfere with each other. However, in 5K, the granularity of the matte is larger than the PPI, leading to a very odd visual experience.
How about compatibility when you connect the computer? Is it as fast as the ASD or does it take more time to connect and boot up? I’be tried several 4K monitors for mac but they all take a while for Mac OS X to “get used to” and scale everything right. A lot of the time, the dock in Mac OS X takes some time to show up or end up in the right place.
Very nice review - concise and with pretty much every piece of information I wanted. I wonder about that brightness control from better display app being different from what the in-display settings sets. If that was DDC control, that should be a change made to the same thing unless betterdisplay simply made a dark overlay without affecting backlight brightness on the monitor itself... Did you try something like Lunar app? It will tell you if you are running DDC control or just software overlay to control brightness.
Great video. I don't think it's convinced me that the S9 is better than the Studio Display, mostly because of build quality and design. However it's a strong contender, especially with the extra features like DP, bluetooth, airplay, etc
@@joekongsan I'm in Korea..... I would never choose the Samsung because: - Low quality speakers - Webcam image quality was brutal - Smart TV functionality is a gimmick - I don't need targeted adds - Inferior build quality - Samsung matte screen is inferior to Apple's glossy screen - Apple has superior aesthetics
The worst part of samsung S9 is that, its panel is supplied by BOE, not by samsung display themselves, surprisingly. This panel is nothing but inferior compared to the LG panel in apple's studio display
Great video. You can clearly see the matte screen does it's job great. I wonder if you compared the S9 vs a Matte ASD, if the ASD is still sharper or looks better in terms of colors because Apple did something very Apple like and found a way to remove glare but still make it less matte than other screens Apple has a big advantage in design and build quality as well as the speakers while Samsung has an advantage in price and the stand flexibility in the box for free with a matte display (assuming you want matte) If you care about sound quality then it's kind of a wash because you will likely have to buy some external speakers for the S9 I may end up getting 1 ASD to sit in the middle and have that be glossy to watch content on if I need to or for vibrant colors for color grading and then have 2 S9's vertical on each side. If you are wondering what I do I am a software engineer and YES I will use all 3 lol I currently have a 5k 2019 iMac pro and a LG 5K Ultrafine and I feel like I need more window space This just made my decision even tougher hahaha if the S9 does drop in price in 4-5 months then that might make the decision easier
Unfortunately, I don't have and I don't plan buying ASD with Nano texture one.. But I'm sure Apple Nano Texture should worth the money. You get what you pay for. By the way, the standard ASD is a good choice and I think you won't regret it. but the LG Ultrafine also a good choice as well. It's really cheap now in the US. I had it last year from Ebay when I was in US for $600. It's a steal!
@@joekongsan oh I know. I m definitely not expecting you to buy one! Lol I currently have the LG. I have had a meh experience with it but maybe it is my iMac with the T2 chip which has connectivity issues sometimes The monitor would remain off and I would have to restart my computer. I do not like it for that reason. I wonder if it works better with the new chips on M1/M2 I also experience a weird thing where if I place a light window on my LG and leave it there for a while and then move the window out while having everything else in a dark theme it looks like it has screen burn in which is weird because it’s not OLED I ll wait until I can see these in person to decide how the Matte finish looks Thanks for the review. It’s awesome. Someone might eventually do a matte to matte comparison when Samsung releases whatever gag order they might have here in the USA
JOE ...the next time you do a comparison between an Apple monitor & another brand....put a big green apple on the base of the Apple monitor .....so we are in no doubt 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Thanks for the thorough review. I was quite disposed to like the Samsung - a lot. I don’t, and I can’t quite put the finger on it. Maybe it’s the wobbliness, the controls, the speakers… Perhaps I can find a physical Viewfinity S9 in a shop to make up my mind. If I can’t, I’ll probably end up with the ASD, though I didn’t mean to.
i like the flushed glass of my ASD and the aluminium case. one thing i didn't like about my previous monitor (not the samsung) was the plastic enclosure the glass screen sits in. it creaked every time i held it to adjust the monitor's height, and felt really cheap. wobbled too when i typed. the ASD feels premium. and the ports are easily accessible, not hidden underneath or behind the stand. i use my mac and pc laptops with it via thunderbolt. on the pc you can't adjust the brightness, which is annoying, but i rarely need to, so it's bearable.
In my country, the Apple Studio Display is $2378 and the Samsung ViewFinity S9 is $646, so I think the logical thing to do at these prices is to go with the S9.
One thing I don't like about Samsung is the name. They should try to come up with something better! (I'm very interested in Samsung's display but just compare the names from Apple and Samsung. I know, Samsung got way more products and versions but I hope they can come up with something better anyways.)
This was an outstanding video and provided a lot of useful information. If my old Apple 27-inch Cinema LED (none thunderbolt) display dies in the future, this Samsung View-finity S9, appears to be an excellent replacement since it supports computers with a mini display port like my 2010, “Mac mini” (smile…smile).
@@JimmyDoresHairDye So, I would enjoy hearing your thoughts on why you prefer the Apple "Studio Display" over the soon to be released in the USA Samsung View-finity S9. As for myself, just always prefer to have a full Apple system (i.e. desktop, monitor, keyboard, track-pad, and mouse, etc.) for my primary computer system. However, for my back-up desktop computers think this Samsung View-finity S9, will make as excellent monitor for both my 2010 "mac mini" and 2014, space gray "trash can" Mac Pro since, both can support the mini display port. (smile...smile)
@@transitengineer I'm afraid that Viewfinity S9 probably not to be an excellent for your old mac mini. I bought this monitor for my 2019 Mac Pro and it doesn't work with any intel macs that I have. Check the link here, it is my recent video which I test this monitor with my intel macs: ruclips.net/video/bMrtZw8RuVU/видео.html
I really hope samsung will bring out a glossy version of the S9. Because that’s literally the only downside it has right now. Yes, the studio display is reflective, but after half a year, you wouldn’t even notice it anymore (at least, that’s my experience with apple products) And it also has better color accuracy
Before getting to calibration I was saying “how is possible that this crap monitor (Apple) sold at 2000€, without support to HDR, can still be so much better…” but then I understood that S9 is very good as well, but only if I buy a calibration kit, am I right? Which one would you suggest for a non-professionist user? Thanks ja
It sounds like other than the speakers and perhaps build quality, the Samsung S9 is equal to or better than the Apple Studio monitor in every other way. Samsung for the win.
Review & Unboxing Samsung Viewfinity S9 is here:
ruclips.net/video/bMrtZw8RuVU/видео.html
Dude, what a great review. You deserve more subscribers
For my office, I've bought 3 Apple Studio Displays and, this week, we got a Viewfinity S9 for a worker. We got the Samsung at a huge discount based on a Black Friday deal. I was thinking that it would be comparable to the Studio Display (which is not on sale). OK - for our office the S9 is much worse. Comparing the build quality is night & day. The Studio Display is way (WAY) better quality. It was easier to set up. The sound is amazing (although these are work computers so we don't really care about the speakers, TBH). Picture quality is similar but the S9 has a yellow tinge that we can't fix. We may need to mess with the settings. Not sure. For our office, Studio Display is 9/10 (it loses a point from the price). S9 is 6/10.
After 2 more months of regular use, the Apple Studio Displays have shined. The S9 now looks cheap in comparison.
@@alastairclarke So what exactly is wrong with S9 for the actual work? Some yellow tint? Everything else you listed sounds like it doesn't really matter.
@@vadever I'm sure it's fine for some users. In my office, the S9 is not even connected to a computer anymore. It's just sitting in an empty cubicle. A very expensive paperweight!
@@alastairclarkeif you are in europe, id gladly buy off that paperweight from you!!
The main factor I will consider is that you can connect a PC and a Mac and switch between them. If only Apple allowed for more inputs! I was surprised by how close they were after calibration; initially, the Samsung looked washed out.
A single display input is the biggest deal breaker for me on the studio. Hell even if you didn’t use a PC/Mac, you can’t even use a Mac Studio/MacBook together
But is it possible for the camera/mic to connect to the device selected on the current input?
Beautiful comparison - made things so much clearer for me than all those lists of specs.
Great to hear!
Thanks ja, I can't afford both of them anyway :)
LoL
Thanks Joe, you did a good, unbiased (IMO) job of comparing two monitors a lot of people are interested in.
I appreciate that! Thank you!
I usually dislike content with auto-narrating. However, for some reason your choice of narrator felt a bit more natural, and I was able to enjoy the decent information you provided. Thanks for the video!
Very informative side-by-side comparison and review. Samsung has a lot to like, but Apple does have better performance in certain areas.
Thank you for watching!
Very good review! Thanks
Thanks, Joe, for the 2nd video.
Adding more perspective for Apple Studio Display.
If you are a Windows user, Display Studio won't make sense.
If you are a Mac user, ASD is the only 5K retina display that does justice to macOS. It renders beautiful, crisp fonts and colors and supports macOS' true tone colors, which adjust automatically based on ambient lighting conditions.
Just bought the Apple Studio Display (ASD) a few days ago.
Brightness is 600 nits, which is excellent, and I usually run it at half brightness level.
The camera is okay, but not the best. I'd probably use my Logitech camera for calls instead of the in-built one.
The speakers are better than most found on monitors.
The build quality is impressive. It looks, feels, and works like an Apple device.
I went for the glossy display with a tilt-only stand. I didn't think spending extra on the height-adjustable stand or nano-texture was worthwhile as there are other ways I can play with the height (riser, table height, etc.), and I don't have any direct sunlight hitting the display, so nano-texture wasn't needed.
I also read (no direct evidence) that nano texture coating requires additional care and is prone to scratching.
I was waiting for the launch of Samsung's Viewfinity S9 (5K 27 inch). After its launch in some Asian markets and price of over $1,300 - as a Mac user, it made sense to buy the Apple Studio Display for the cohesiveness with the Apple ecosystem and the fact that it will just work. You don't need to set/tweak settings. Plugin the Thunderbolt cable & supply power, and you're ready.
The Studio Display also comes with firmware updates and has an A13 bionic chip (used in iPhone 11) embedded in it. Apart from being fancy, they have not fully captured the placement of this powerful chip (maybe it's used for the web camera, cooling functions, or spatial audio of the speakers).
I also considered buying the LG Ultrafine 5K display (half price of ASD), but given it's 6 years old and most LG panels from that era suffer from the pink hue issue, I decided against it.
Some other notable mentions:
a. can control speaker volume from the Apple keyboard
b. can adjust screen brightness from the Apple keyboard
c. the ambient light sensor is on the far left on the top chin of the monitor, so you can mount your own web camera in the center of the top chin without worrying about blocking the ambient light sensor
d. In India, this monitor ships with a 15A power plug, so you need access to a power plug light point
I'll keep adding stuff here as I learn more and use it as my daily driver.
ASD's price is obnoxious, but most Apple products are priced that way. If you spend many hours in front of your macOS screen, ASD is an expensive but makes-sense choice for Mac users.
ASD worth the price. It is the best choice for mac user. I also don't want something fancy but a good monitor. smart functions make me feel upset after I using this like a week.
@@joekongsan agree, the samsung isn't that much cheaper and im glad i bought the ASD. it just works, i don't need the extra stuff. i got the one with the vesa mount and the height/tilt is not an issue.
Thank you for this insight!! Great job!! The Samsung monitor looks like a very cool alternative to the Apple display, especially if you have to switch from Mac to Windows at times!! Cheers from Italy!!
grazie per aver guardato!
The sound comparison should use the same songs, right?
Thanks for your thorough comparison. Even though I prefer a glossy screen, there's enough to like to at least try out the Samsung!
Thanks for watching!
Here in Brazil, the Samsung monitor costs half the price of the Apple Studio Display in local currency. Do you think the S9 is worth buying?
I think Samsung did a good job. The screen wobble and speakers are a disappointment, but I wear my AirPods most of the time so not a big deal.. I might actually pick one up and give it a shot if the price is right.
I want to know the price in US & Europe,too.
The official price of over 1700€ in Germany is way too high. This has to be 1/2 the price of Apples product or 2/3 at max to make me consider it.
That's pricey. With that price, no way this monitor can beat the ASD in my opinion.
Could you make a video instruct how to calibrate color of S9? Thanks!
Another great review, Joe--thanks!!!
Excellent video comparing both monitors. Clear, concise and to the point! Regards, from Delhi, India.
Glad you liked it. Thank you for watching!
This is a superb review. Thank you for the attention to detail. Don’t lose that!
Thanks for the comparison, great Job!
Thanks for watching!
Great comparison. I know you don't want to continue in English beyond the intro, but it's good practise and you sound good when you try. I'm in Khon Kaen :)
It takes so much time narrating the English VDO as it's kind of hard for some words and I planned launching my clip last night so I decide using the AI voice.
Hope you like the video! and khob-khun-krub for watching! :D
@@joekongsan You did a nice job. I wish there was more of a price difference here in Thailand. About 10,000 baht difference. But with Samsung, no return policy and impossible to get warranty honored here like with the Apple store.
@@TheThaiLife I do agree. The price around 35-38k would be perfect. Samsung warranty is not as superior as Apple by the way.
Very nice review, keep up bro!
Appreciate it!
Would be better if you compared it to studio display nano texture version
he doesn't have that, and i think most people would just get the base model ASD with the glossy screen
In BetterDsiplay you didn't set DDC to change brightness but you changed it via software, hence it looked so bad compared to native.
Do note that Apple offers nano texture glass. Which is similar to a Matt panel. Albeit, it’s more expensive. If you like everything about the studio display but the glass finish, you may want to shell out for the nano texture glass.
I always prefer the cheaper one. Lol
I just bought the S9 and there is a black shadow around the rim of the monitor. Is that normal? I especially see it on white websites.
Great review, thanks for taking the time to do this.
My pleasure!
looking to upgrade my 4 year old 400$ 2k DELL ultrasharpt with S9. excited to see the different
really great video, big thanks for showing us!
Thanks for watching!
Thank you Khun Joe! Great video! I hope you are getting lots of views. It is a tricky choice…
Thank you too!
Hey! Great video. One note tho: I would prefer to hear your voice (even if you're not native) rather than the generated one
I will in the next video, Thank you for watching!
Is the samsung flicker free?
이 두 제품을 고민하고 있는 사람으로서 좋은 영상이었어! 이 제품을 두고 고민하는 사람들은 samsung viewfinity s9이 apple studio display 대비 화질 등 모니터 본연의 기능이 얼마나 충족될 지 궁금해 하는데, 다른 유튜버들의 영상은 제품의 마감새나 스피커 같은 고려하지 않는 점들만 비교하더라고. 아마도 화면 비교에 대한 지식이 없어서 인 것 같아보여.
다른 너의 영상도 기대할께.
Why no hdmi input? I had been looking forward to this monitor as a means of serving as both tv and extra monitor, but no longer…
I bet you anything they did this to try and force people to do tv commerce through tizen store etc. But just like w/ Apple, that makes using a ps5 with it or xbox impossible
Excellent video lad.
Thanks for watching!
Listing all S9's features that hasn't in the Studio Display and the screen calibration achieving so close results is what I was looking for. Thank you! But, the lack of the Studio Display's fidelity sound on the S9 makes me still thinking on the Apple's device. If S9 comes much cheaper, under US$ 700, I can thin about it. More than this I prefer to invest on Apple device, knowing that I can sell it later with a goo price, if I wish. But, I'm thinking now... for the monitors getting so close in brightness and colors, didi you downgrade the Studio Display on the calibration section?
I purchased two S9 monitors from Amazon: one in acceptable condition for $460, and the other in new condition for $599.
Please do more Videos about the s9, can’t get enough of them👍✌️
How much is this? What’s the MSRP
Hi, what is the price? and when will it arrive in Italy? Thank you
I have no idea. But the price here in Thailand is 45,990 Baht (Appx. $1,350)
Does anyone know when is the offical launch date? I am in need of this 😢
This will be available in US in August. The price is $1599.
Great review! Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Does this screen still have an error that automatically shuts down the Macbook and requires the screen to reboot?
Great video Joe, thanks again - waiting for the UK pricing and availability
Thank you for watching!
Many thanks. great review again!
My pleasure!
@Joe, thanks for the great comparison and attention to detail.
My pleasure!
Great video, is the voiceover a computer generated voice that reads your scripts for you?
thank you! yes, it's A.I. voiceover.
The Apple seems to have better luminance uniformity, where the Samsung appears to get dimmer at either side? Visible during the calibration section
Great review, keep up the good work :)
Thank you!
What is the material of the display itself? Glass like the studio display or just plastic?
It's a glass.
Does the Samsung color calibration app work on an iPhone?
What is the music played on 9.50 ??
I don't know the name of the song. But here is the link for the channel which play that song:
ruclips.net/user/liveJWlKA9wmO64?feature=share
@@joekongsanThankyou and Comparision of Both Monitor Display was very informative 😄
What is the name of the music playing during the calibration at 3:01?
It's 'Luna' by elddir.
ruclips.net/video/Vt1JOGAIm3A/видео.html
Thanks for the great comparison! One question: is the Display from the Samsung out of plastic or out of glass as on the Apple Studio Display?
It's a matte glass.
Greate Review, Greate Job! It seems that the S9 has a game mode, is it related to VRR features such as FreeSync or G-Sync Compatible? When connect it to game console which only support 4K, how would S9 handle the input?
I forget to make a content about this! but I think it should support 4k max. I really have no idea since I don't gaming. Sorry for that.
I want to know the color settings of the monitor😢😢😢
You can go to Setting/Picture mode/Expert Setting. You can set the color from there.
@@joekongsan I'm curious about the setting value, not the setting method!!🫶🏻🫶🏻
@@ADOR I think it is a bit complicate to adjust the monitor without using color tool. But you can try: ruclips.net/video/h8G81CNCoo0/видео.html
Have You noticed any loud noises (coils?) from inside when You use any item pluged in USB-C to monitor ex. SSD or Card Reader?
I just get the Samsung S9. Could you please tell me which software you use for adjusting brightness using keyboard? Thx
Great video! Any data on Adobe RGB %? I know Apple are about 86%. Adobe RGB
What about ups glow? Which one has worse ups glow? Is any of these two better at ips glow compared to a normal mid range monitor. And no backlight bleeding right?
Does samsung monitor support 2560x1440 resolution in HiDPI mode via thunderbolt cable?
I don't know how to try or enable it. Can you tell me? And please tell me how to disable it as well.
@@joekongsan system settings > displays > then change resolution
What all options are listed there?
You can also try system settings > displays > advanced > and enable "show resolutions as list " if it doesn't show list by default
@@VarunOberoiOfficial Here it is:
forums.macrumors.com/attachments/screenshot-2566-06-28-at-21-18-17-png.2224685/
If possible, could you please test if its possible to connect a Windows PC via the usb-c or mini displayport and still get a 5K image?
The main reason why I'm considering buying this monitor is to be able to use both my Mac via Thunderbolt and my PC via usb-c or mini display port.
I'd like to try that too. Unfortunately, I didn't have any PC or any devices that can test the minidisplayport :(
I have a Studio display and I like it.
I think everybody who has it love it. It worth the price.
Bro you didn’t tell us calibration results like contrast ratio, black level and how much dci p3
About the pink edge problem on older panels mentioned by Joe - Has Apple shown to be able to fix that? By replacing the panel?
Since it out of warranty, so I just leave it there. Too much money for replacing the panel. That's why I think the longer warranty, the better.
Hi could you do a disk speed test on the I/O ports of the S9? Wonder if they work well or share bandwidth if multiple external drives are plugged in at once. Thank you!
Ok, I will!
The glaring error, that Apple, which built a powerful A13 chip and an iOS operating system into this monitor, didn't add WIFI to get at least Airplay Mirroring, is stupid.
This monitor could drive a full tvOS…
sometimes you have to wonder how the decision making works at Apple. They build a beautiful display out of premium materials with great speakers and a chip that could make it a standalone smart display, but then they decide not to add ANYTHING besides Siri and Atmos processing to it 🤦♂ They should have put tvOS into it, because with the built in power adaptor you could easily pick it up and take it anywhere and start playing TV on it. I love mine (with nano texture), but I am disappointed in this way.
@@chuck7415 This is 100% correct. These types of decisions from Apple, I can never understand.
Great overview pointing out the pros and cons. 👍
Thank you for watching!
For the price differential I would choose the Apple Studio Display all day every day.
ASD is alot more expensive? Especially because you dont get a stand?
@@ezBeanie it's about the same price... the ASD can be found cheaper at the moment actually. You can find an ASD with vesa mount for 1480 Euro's ... an S9 will apparently cost 1599 Euro's... both will need a seperate vesa stand. The base model ASD has a tilt stand and can be found for about the same price as the s9.
@@ezBeanie just get a monitor arm and you'll never have to worry about stands ever again.
@@extrasoap4881 true :D
Don't forget that all the smart tv stuff gets in the way and the silly blue timeout screen, if its anything like it's 4k, M8 counterpart
I saw and listened in many other videos that the viewfinity s9 monitor spearks are not working well.its true? 😮otherside ,could I connect asus rogstrix gt 531 laptop to the Apple Studio Display?
One question, if you connect an s23, and activate the Dex mode, can viewfinity charge through the usb type c connection to the s23? And if the answer is yes... you can use the pause USB power delivery?
how much?
In Thailand is 45,990 Baht. (~$1,350)
I tried out two other 5K monitors that use the same panel, the ViewSonic VG2781-5k and the Rich Vision RV100. Both had a noticeable graininess on the screen surface due to the coarse matte texture, especially when reading documents with white backgrounds and black text. Does the Samsung Viewfinity S9 5K have the same issue?
Yes
@@bernaferrari Then a 5K matte screen is contradictory; the PPI of a 4K matte screen matches the granularity of the matte, so they don't interfere with each other. However, in 5K, the granularity of the matte is larger than the PPI, leading to a very odd visual experience.
How about compatibility when you connect the computer? Is it as fast as the ASD or does it take more time to connect and boot up? I’be tried several 4K monitors for mac but they all take a while for Mac OS X to “get used to” and scale everything right. A lot of the time, the dock in Mac OS X takes some time to show up or end up in the right place.
5K should work, 4K’s always a bit of a pain in the ****.
Very nice review - concise and with pretty much every piece of information I wanted.
I wonder about that brightness control from better display app being different from what the in-display settings sets. If that was DDC control, that should be a change made to the same thing unless betterdisplay simply made a dark overlay without affecting backlight brightness on the monitor itself... Did you try something like Lunar app? It will tell you if you are running DDC control or just software overlay to control brightness.
Thanks for video, usefull 👍
Glad it was helpful!
El,mejor analisis que he visto. Me quedo con samsung🎉
Only 1 Thunderbolt port? No glossy version….
Yes, only 1 Thunderbot port. same as Apple Studio display and LG Ultrafine 5K.
Great video. I don't think it's convinced me that the S9 is better than the Studio Display, mostly because of build quality and design. However it's a strong contender, especially with the extra features like DP, bluetooth, airplay, etc
The price in Thailand is good on Samsung. About 45% cheaper than the same specs on Apple.
@@joekongsan
I'm in Korea.....
I would never choose the Samsung because:
- Low quality speakers
- Webcam image quality was brutal
- Smart TV functionality is a gimmick - I don't need targeted adds
- Inferior build quality
- Samsung matte screen is inferior to Apple's glossy screen
- Apple has superior aesthetics
I don't care about crapple, does this have displayport to connect to a PC
It does have a minidisplayport.
@@joekongsan version 2.1 or enough bandwidth for 5k,10bit, 4:4:4?
@@gohanpcgamer I think it's version 1.4 not 2.1
The worst part of samsung S9 is that, its panel is supplied by BOE, not by samsung display themselves, surprisingly. This panel is nothing but inferior compared to the LG panel in apple's studio display
Great video. You can clearly see the matte screen does it's job great.
I wonder if you compared the S9 vs a Matte ASD, if the ASD is still sharper or looks better in terms of colors because Apple did something very Apple like and found a way to remove glare but still make it less matte than other screens
Apple has a big advantage in design and build quality as well as the speakers while Samsung has an advantage in price and the stand flexibility in the box for free with a matte display (assuming you want matte)
If you care about sound quality then it's kind of a wash because you will likely have to buy some external speakers for the S9
I may end up getting 1 ASD to sit in the middle and have that be glossy to watch content on if I need to or for vibrant colors for color grading and then have 2 S9's vertical on each side. If you are wondering what I do I am a software engineer and YES I will use all 3 lol I currently have a 5k 2019 iMac pro and a LG 5K Ultrafine and I feel like I need more window space
This just made my decision even tougher hahaha if the S9 does drop in price in 4-5 months then that might make the decision easier
Unfortunately, I don't have and I don't plan buying ASD with Nano texture one.. But I'm sure Apple Nano Texture should worth the money. You get what you pay for.
By the way, the standard ASD is a good choice and I think you won't regret it. but the LG Ultrafine also a good choice as well. It's really cheap now in the US. I had it last year from Ebay when I was in US for $600. It's a steal!
@@joekongsan oh I know. I m definitely not expecting you to buy one! Lol
I currently have the LG. I have had a meh experience with it but maybe it is my iMac with the T2 chip which has connectivity issues sometimes
The monitor would remain off and I would have to restart my computer. I do not like it for that reason.
I wonder if it works better with the new chips on M1/M2
I also experience a weird thing where if I place a light window on my LG and leave it there for a while and then move the window out while having everything else in a dark theme it looks like it has screen burn in which is weird because it’s not OLED
I ll wait until I can see these in person to decide how the Matte finish looks
Thanks for the review. It’s awesome. Someone might eventually do a matte to matte comparison when Samsung releases whatever gag order they might have here in the USA
Dell UltraSharp U2723QE or Samsung S9?
I haven't try U2723QE yet.
JOE ...the next time you do a comparison between an Apple monitor & another brand....put a big green apple on the base of the Apple monitor .....so we are in no doubt 😅😅😅😅😅😅
sure I will!
Thanks for the thorough review. I was quite disposed to like the Samsung - a lot. I don’t, and I can’t quite put the finger on it. Maybe it’s the wobbliness, the controls, the speakers… Perhaps I can find a physical Viewfinity S9 in a shop to make up my mind. If I can’t, I’ll probably end up with the ASD, though I didn’t mean to.
i like the flushed glass of my ASD and the aluminium case. one thing i didn't like about my previous monitor (not the samsung) was the plastic enclosure the glass screen sits in. it creaked every time i held it to adjust the monitor's height, and felt really cheap. wobbled too when i typed. the ASD feels premium. and the ports are easily accessible, not hidden underneath or behind the stand.
i use my mac and pc laptops with it via thunderbolt. on the pc you can't adjust the brightness, which is annoying, but i rarely need to, so it's bearable.
Apple Studio Display for the win.....
In my country, the Apple Studio Display is $2378 and the Samsung ViewFinity S9 is $646, so I think the logical thing to do at these prices is to go with the S9.
One thing I don't like about Samsung is the name. They should try to come up with something better!
(I'm very interested in Samsung's display but just compare the names from Apple and Samsung. I know, Samsung got way more products and versions but I hope they can come up with something better anyways.)
This was an outstanding video and provided a lot of useful information. If my old Apple 27-inch Cinema LED (none thunderbolt) display dies in the future, this Samsung View-finity S9, appears to be an excellent replacement since it supports computers with a mini display port like my 2010, “Mac mini” (smile…smile).
Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching!
I'm about to make the jump from the 27" Cinema Display to the new studio display. I almost feel guilty because the Cinema Display still looks great!
@@JimmyDoresHairDye So, I would enjoy hearing your thoughts on why you prefer the Apple "Studio Display" over the soon to be released in the USA Samsung View-finity S9. As for myself, just always prefer to have a full Apple system (i.e. desktop, monitor, keyboard, track-pad, and mouse, etc.) for my primary computer system. However, for my back-up desktop computers think this Samsung View-finity S9, will make as excellent monitor for both my 2010 "mac mini" and 2014, space gray "trash can" Mac Pro since, both can support the mini display port. (smile...smile)
@@transitengineer I'm afraid that Viewfinity S9 probably not to be an excellent for your old mac mini.
I bought this monitor for my 2019 Mac Pro and it doesn't work with any intel macs that I have.
Check the link here, it is my recent video which I test this monitor with my intel macs:
ruclips.net/video/bMrtZw8RuVU/видео.html
I really hope samsung will bring out a glossy version of the S9.
Because that’s literally the only downside it has right now.
Yes, the studio display is reflective, but after half a year, you wouldn’t even notice it anymore (at least, that’s my experience with apple products)
And it also has better color accuracy
I don't like apple brand but this time i will prefer the apple studio
Yes, you get what you pay for. Apple worth the money.
Thanks!
Welcome!
Before getting to calibration I was saying “how is possible that this crap monitor (Apple) sold at 2000€, without support to HDR, can still be so much better…” but then I understood that S9 is very good as well, but only if I buy a calibration kit, am I right? Which one would you suggest for a non-professionist user? Thanks ja
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So Samsung made a very close imitation. Think I’ll stick my studio displays. Thanks.
If you already have a studio display this product clearly isn't targeted at you....
impressive!!!!
thank you
It sounds like other than the speakers and perhaps build quality, the Samsung S9 is equal to or better than the Apple Studio monitor in every other way. Samsung for the win.
Apple wins if you place a premium on aesthetics (no power brick) and you care about speaker quality.
@@cylackand if you don’t want matte
support as well. i find samsung's warranty a pain to get on with when you need it
apple display better. it's worth its price
I do agree!
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