I think the most people on the budget should just get the 2560 x 1440p qhd monitor and trust me it will work I am using a dell QHD monitor and it looks amazing with my Mac Mini m4
I just got 27" 1440p for my Mac mini M4. It's the 2nd best option next to "retina" at 109 PPI. It's absolutely "fine", just not retina so it's going to look a little pixelated, but it's perfectly acceptable most of the time. I'd say color accuracy is more important. I'm going to stick to this until 5k 27" prices go down.
I scale a lot of my 4K displays on MacOS. Sometimes as a 5k scaled or even 6k scaled display. I have two 32” 4k monitors and find the 6k scaled mode works exceptionally well. I have often thought 2x retina might be a bit much. While it looks nice and it makes a lot of sense I think even a 1.5x retina is enough to take away the pixel look in most cases. At my job I have three displays. Two of them are 24” 1080p displays and one is a 27” 4k display. I find the pixels on the 1080p displays to be distracting now compared to a Retina display. They work but I miss the clarity of retina. This is why I do think a 4k display scaled to 5k for optimal PPI is better than just a 2560 wide display. Funny thing about 31{ is it’s an awkward size for PPI. Used as a 2x Retina display and everything is massive. A bit too large. Used as a true 3840 wide display and things are too small. This is why Apple chose 6k for their 32” Pro Display. It wasn’t just for the sake of having 6k but it’s the optimal resolution for 32”. This is why I scale my 32” displays to 6k. It’s not as perfect as a true 6k display but I honestly don’t really see a difference and it looks great and gives me the optimal scale that makes sense.
@ on MacOS when you open the display settings they list the units that the scale looks like. A 3840 wide display is really the same scale as a 1920 wide display. It’s just more dense so you don’t see the pixels. You can select a 3008 pixel wide mode which is again the scale it feels like. What MacOS does however is render that as 6016 wide and then dis-lay that in whatever 3840 wide pixels it can use. So instead of a 2x retina it’s less but still much higher than non retina. What MacOS processes however is 6k just like the Apple 6k display. The Apple 6k display also has a feels like 3000 pixels wide scale. That may seem small but it’s much larger space than 1920 normally is so it’s a massive amount of space. The main difference between a 4k scaled to 6k (3008) wide and a true 6k display is just the density. The 4K is like 1.5x or whatever the math is vs 2x retina of the 6k display. On paper that sounds bad but in practice it looks pretty darn good. The reason is because those pixels are so tiny anyway. It’s really difficult to really see past a certain density. Some can but it’s really splitting hairs. In my opinion what sliver of density is gained is not worth the insane price premium.
"This is why I do think a 4k display scaled to 5k for optimal PPI is better than just a 2560 wide display." I dont get what you mean by that... and how do you apply 5k to a 4k display?? i use a 1080p for my new M4 pro and i get eye cancer looking at it... everything is so blurry.. even with the better display app.. when i connect my windows with the same content, everything looks razersharp (even though pixels are visible.. which is normal at a 1080p 24 inch monitor).. so i think i need a display with more pixels.. do i understand it right that when i buy a monitor with 4k or so... but bigger then 24 inch.. lets say ultrawide 37 inch.. would i have the same issues? because the pixel density wont really change but only the size of the monitor? (basically just adding more pixels left and right but not having more pixels per inch)? ... or would it still be sharper because the scaling works better in Mac os with more rendered pixels?
Very useful video which I have distilled down to this in my head The image on a 4k will always be sharper due to pixel density You can change the 'Use as' settings to resize the elements to what you want to see Some of the 'Use as" settings are natural or default for the Mac but others might cause issues - but probably nothing you would notice - but for most people just use a default The problem I was imagining was thinking that by scaling a 4k display to 1080, I would get a 1080 quality image - which is not the case So all this is a bit of a non issue.
Excellent video! The topic is one that’s often researched when buying a monitor, and your detailed explanation leaves no room for doubt. Thank you so much!
I've been researching on the macOS scaling with different monitors on youtube since a really long time and none of the reviews actually showed the OS and its effects of scaling properly. Your video is exactly what I was looking for so thank you so much for explaining it and showing it with live example on the OS it just gave me so much clarity on my purchase decision between the M4 iMac or the M4 mac mini. After considering this issue I would lean more towards investing in the iMac over Mac mini as I don't want to get into the frustration of monitor resolution and scaling as there are such few options we have with 5k monitors in the market. Thanks a lot!
One question that I have is, other than the scaling, when I watch a RUclips video or Netflix, and I click the 4K option, and I have the 27” 4K monitor with the default scaling, will the video display in 4K or 1080p?
The scaling only affect software ui elements. Media content. You will still get the full 4k resolution of whatever youtube video or Netflix show you are watching
@@HalfManHalfTech Same doubt, I was considering a fire tv stick for media content. I wanna plug my Mac mini, windows pc and Nintendo Switch on a dell 27''' 4k. Your video is a life saver, thank you so much!!!
Immensely valuable! Thank you for the comparison at the end, I will be going for a 4k monitor and scale it to 1440p, instead of buying a 1440p monitor and running it with its native resolution.
Apple need to work on fractional scaling like windows offers as most people do not own 5K monitors and most don't want 1440p. They really need to offer something directly for 4K monitor owners. (the only other option is to use BetterDisplay)
@HalfManHalfTech U2723QE was my first option but here in Brazil it is still very expensive, in any case it is an excellent choice ... I am using two P2723QE side by side scaled to 1440p
Why not opt for a 32" 4K display instead of the 27" 4K one? I would presume that Mac would maintain a 1:1 scaling ratio for the 32" 4K display, similar to how it handles 1440p displays on 1440p screens. However, I wonder if having a larger screen with significantly smaller UI components on a 32" display could strain the eyes.
Well according to the chart at 4m in the video, a 32" 4K falls in the "bad" zone, which I guess suggests that UI elements would be too small for comfort.
A computer and its OS, doesn't have any information about how big your monitor is. It just knows the resolution it's asked to provide. Apple could easily make their OS great for 4K monitors, but then they wouldn't sell as many of their own displays.
I have somewhat bad eyes due to age, I was considering using two 27 inch 4K monitors, one mostly to read documents so it needs to be SHARP and the other for the general stuff you do in a Mac including running OLD games once in a while. I was thinking of using two 4K monitors the reading one set to 1080P for more dots per character. Am I wrong with this set up? What would you recommend???
Man, thank you for this great video. I would say the best video i've seen on topic. I don't have mac yet, working on windows. And i read a lot on the forums, what is better on macos, native 1440 on 1440 or scaled 1440 on 4k. Your video cleared all doubts! Purchased 4k 27. Great job!
I use a mac book pro for everything and gaming on a ps5, since FC25 can only run max at 60fps I am more than well to use both mac and ps5 on the same 4K monitor Thank you
Thank you for this video. But I don't understand how it depends to MacBook Pro 14 M2 Pro. This MacBook have resolution 3024x1964 (1512x982). How it depends to 5120х2880? Thanks.
How about the LG 27GR93U? which is 4k but 144hz. Would that be able to scale it to 1440p but keep at least a 120hz refresh rate with a M1 Macbook Air? Thanks for the video!
I have an lg 32uq750w that is 4k 144hz and a Mac mini m1, it works perfect with both 1080p and 1440p scaling at 144hz. The only problem that I found is that HDR only works in 1080p mode.
Yes it will. If your Mac can handle 4k at 144fps then it can also handle 1440p at 140fps. The same is also true with your monitor. If it can do 4K at 144 frame per second then it can also display at 1440 P at 144 frames per second. Monitors are usually limited the other ways round. Like some monitors can do 1440 at 250 or even 460 frames per second but once you go 4K, they can only do 4K at 120 FPS
hi congratulations for the video full of useful details, I wanted to ask having understood that the best is the 27 inch 4k monitor, is this one better or the 32 inch 4k? which one will adapt better to the mac scaling making everything sharper. Thank you so much!
You can have the sharpness of retina on a 1440p display, but you'd need to scale it to 1280x720 (half resolution from 1440p). That's what the "HiDPI" thing means in the resolutions list, problem is that 1280x720 is a ridiculous resolution and everything looks huge so you lose a lot of space, it's ok if you're gonna use one app at a time on the display, but if you wanna have two apps on screen at once it's not a lot of space. You could theoretically even do it with a native 1080p display if you set it to half it's native resolution, but that would just be insane, at that point you're working with mid 1990s CRT resolutions
@@abhishek_patra_ It's displaying at 1080p, it will look the same as it would if you got a native 1080p monitor. The only difference is the 2K monitor has more pixels-per-inch than the 1080p monitor, so the image might be a little bit more crisp. It's not the same as 4K, you don't get full HiDPI retina mode but it should be harder to see individual pixels than it is on a native 1080p monitor.
Great video brother. Do you mind answering a question? If I use betterdisplay app on my 4K scaled at 1440p and use a HighDPi option will the “performance affected due to scaling” prompt disappear? Of are those thing unrelated ? Also, do you still get no impact in performance with Intel Macs? Thank you 🙏🏼
Thank you!. I've used Macbooks for more than a decade (3 generations), and only now learned of this display info and config. My monitor is native 4K 60Hz but when connected to my M1 Macbook Air it is only 4K 30 Hz. If I set for the default 1920x1080 UI resolution, the monitor resolution also dropped but frame rate can go up to 60 Hz with HDR. The monitor is not even HDR capable. Hmmm...
As I understand it, macOS only shows 1920 x 1080 as the resolution option in settings when using a 27’’ 4K display. Does that mean the display is actually running at 1080p, or is that just a setting while my display is still showing 4K?
@@A-Htje No. No. No. MacOS show 1080 as default resolution for a 4k screen but you can select others. When we talk about scaling is about UI scale, that means everything will be bigger in your screen compared to 4k, so you are losing space. It’s like if you have a 1080 monitor, but your screen is 4k, obviously. You can play videos at 4k.
@@Guillemod Hey @Guillemod, just wanted to double-check. Is it accurate that what he did in the video is that the screen is still 4K, but it can play 4K videos? However, the Mac set it as 1920 X 1080 as the default resolution just for the way the UI looks? So, the screen is still 4K, but the UI appears to be 1920X1080?
So i got a 27inch 27inch 1440p 240hz oled monitor i have plugged in yesterday and it was working fine 1440p as default and 120hz But now its 1080p as default and i cannot go up to 4k as well and also not let me do 120hz anymore. Its because of the scaling? My monitor 1440p but can scale 4k in hdmi 2.1
Looking for a new monitor that I will be using with Macbook Pro 16" M3 and I've basically ended up with 2 options (I don't want to go over the 500 Euro budget): 1. Dell U2723QE -> 4K UHD @60Hz USB-C 2. Dell U2724DE -> 2k QHD @120Hz Thunderbolt From what I saw, more people recommend the 4k option, although an older model and at a lower refresh rate. Which would be a better option for working with MacBook Pro ?
@@IonutNegru87 you won’t be able to enjoy the 120hz of you MBP on an external monitor, so if you don’t have a windows computer to plug in for video gaming as well, go for the 4K lower refresh rate.
@@euphoriantraveller8651 Thank you for the recommendation. This is what I did in the end, I bought Dell U2723QE. This works very well also with my dual laptop setup and the KVM works awesome with a dongle!
I had a similar question, I have a M3 Pro and just purchased a 27" ProArt 4K and was concerned that I have gone the wrong direction, however, I'm getting a sense it will be okay, you'll get a sharper image, and the performance impact will be minimal/negligible, especially on these latest machines, I hope that's the case!!
Hey Half man Techs I see, that you got 1440p @180hz. I also have a 1440p monitor that has USB c and a refresh rate of 170hz. How can I get the 170hz on the 1440p monitor? I'm currently using a USB Hub &. Regular HDMI Cable to connect my M1 MacBook Air to my display. I would like to know how you connected your Mac to the display to get the high refresh rate out of your monitor. Best regards!
I see two problems on his video channel. First, the video channel name. Don’t use half tech half man. Try to use more focus name like monitor guy, tech guy, display guy, unbox guy, etc. Even a person name is better than half tech half man. Next one is his profile icon and his clothing (no offence but you are on tech video). You can either put a collar dress shirt over your light color t-shirt or wear darker t-shirt like black or dark blue. People are too entrenched in Steve Job’s black t-shirt or Elon musk’s style.
@halfmanhalftech how do you feel about videos saying they are having performance issues? Like this guy I’ll link. What you say makes sense that it doesn’t need to refresh the ui unless it’s moving, but what about the actual content or whatever playing or being worked on? Also, people used to always say text never looks as clear when scaled like this, was that fixed? Https://ruclips.net/video/9XVA_N8hyyk/видео.htmlsi=fEZBwEzROqlYU20X I guess I’m a little confused since you do say an older Mac or a higher refresh rate could affect performance, so that indicates there is always at least some kind of performance hit. So if we buy something that handles it ok now effectively the computer becomes older quicker in the upgrade cycle as things progress? I’m not too worried about gaming, but I would like to get a 120hz display for the smoothness of general use. Is that an issue? I plan on an M4 Pro, maybe a Max. Thanks! Great channel
I bought 3 days ago a 1440p 27" MSI monitor, unfortunately using it at 2560x1440 is all too small and this thing would make me blind. I'm trying to use the Better Display app and that way it allows me to set lower resolutions by increasing the sharpness and it works pretty well, but I still feel the texts are not very sharp. I will return the monitor and try a 4K 27". Unfortunately, the Retina display on my 16" M1 MacBook Pro has fabulous pixel density.
Why use a monitor? I sit in my Recliner in the Living room & nd use my 60" UHDTV with my Sourround System. Why even have a big expensive Entertainment System if you're going to sit in a Dark Dank Basement in an Uncomfortable chair Making You Tube Videos about Monitord. In fact I run two Computers Windows & M4 Mac Mini on to Big Screen 4K UHDTV's. Sitting 10' away I can read every thing here in the Comments with ease.
Hello, Apple Engineer here. So many noise. I will conclude: - Use ANY scaling setting you're COMFORTABLE with. Unlike Windows OS, the macOS's resolution setting does not actually change it, but makes the image to "appear like". - Performance is non of your concern. At all. Even tho this confusing notification is presented. - the more PPI -> the sharper image you will get. So 4K >>> 2K. Always. Tired of such reviews/articles. Thanks.
A More in depth video on this topic with more monitors 👉🏾 ruclips.net/video/odXKT_ge66o/видео.htmlsi=ff7yxWGPDDr0Q0QX
I think the most people on the budget should just get the 2560 x 1440p qhd monitor and trust me it will work I am using a dell QHD monitor and it looks amazing with my Mac Mini m4
How did you scale the text, plz reply my mac display is broken...
Lg 24QP550(2k display) or Dell P2425h(full hd) what should I buy?
When in a 1440p 2k monitor, if you set the resolution to 1080p, are the media played on the monitor is 2k or 1080p.... Plz reply?
I just got 27" 1440p for my Mac mini M4. It's the 2nd best option next to "retina" at 109 PPI. It's absolutely "fine", just not retina so it's going to look a little pixelated, but it's perfectly acceptable most of the time. I'd say color accuracy is more important. I'm going to stick to this until 5k 27" prices go down.
hi! Which model monitor did you get?
Can u share the model
@@Jamal-tc6qj I would just recommend Dell U2724D.
@@Jamal-tc6qj ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV, dirty cheap the best monitor i ever had
@@khushgohlar244 ASUS ProArt Display PA278QV, dirty cheap the best monitor i ever had
I scale a lot of my 4K displays on MacOS. Sometimes as a 5k scaled or even 6k scaled display. I have two 32” 4k monitors and find the 6k scaled mode works exceptionally well.
I have often thought 2x retina might be a bit much. While it looks nice and it makes a lot of sense I think even a 1.5x retina is enough to take away the pixel look in most cases.
At my job I have three displays. Two of them are 24” 1080p displays and one is a 27” 4k display. I find the pixels on the 1080p displays to be distracting now compared to a Retina display. They work but I miss the clarity of retina. This is why I do think a 4k display scaled to 5k for optimal PPI is better than just a 2560 wide display.
Funny thing about 31{ is it’s an awkward size for PPI. Used as a 2x Retina display and everything is massive. A bit too large. Used as a true 3840 wide display and things are too small. This is why Apple chose 6k for their 32” Pro Display. It wasn’t just for the sake of having 6k but it’s the optimal resolution for 32”. This is why I scale my 32” displays to 6k. It’s not as perfect as a true 6k display but I honestly don’t really see a difference and it looks great and gives me the optimal scale that makes sense.
When in a 1440p 2k monitor, if you set the resolution to 1080p, are the media played on the monitor is 2k or 1080p.... Plz reply?
@@digitaldevigner4080 how do you scale your 4K 32” monitor to 6k?
@ on MacOS when you open the display settings they list the units that the scale looks like. A 3840 wide display is really the same scale as a 1920 wide display. It’s just more dense so you don’t see the pixels. You can select a 3008 pixel wide mode which is again the scale it feels like. What MacOS does however is render that as 6016 wide and then dis-lay that in whatever 3840 wide pixels it can use. So instead of a 2x retina it’s less but still much higher than non retina. What MacOS processes however is 6k just like the Apple 6k display. The Apple 6k display also has a feels like 3000 pixels wide scale. That may seem small but it’s much larger space than 1920 normally is so it’s a massive amount of space.
The main difference between a 4k scaled to 6k (3008) wide and a true 6k display is just the density. The 4K is like 1.5x or whatever the math is vs 2x retina of the 6k display. On paper that sounds bad but in practice it looks pretty darn good. The reason is because those pixels are so tiny anyway. It’s really difficult to really see past a certain density. Some can but it’s really splitting hairs. In my opinion what sliver of density is gained is not worth the insane price premium.
"This is why I do think a 4k display scaled to 5k for optimal PPI is better than just a 2560 wide display."
I dont get what you mean by that... and how do you apply 5k to a 4k display??
i use a 1080p for my new M4 pro and i get eye cancer looking at it... everything is so blurry.. even with the better display app.. when i connect my windows with the same content, everything looks razersharp (even though pixels are visible.. which is normal at a 1080p 24 inch monitor).. so i think i need a display with more pixels..
do i understand it right that when i buy a monitor with 4k or so... but bigger then 24 inch.. lets say ultrawide 37 inch.. would i have the same issues? because the pixel density wont really change but only the size of the monitor? (basically just adding more pixels left and right but not having more pixels per inch)? ... or would it still be sharper because the scaling works better in Mac os with more rendered pixels?
Very useful video which I have distilled down to this in my head
The image on a 4k will always be sharper due to pixel density
You can change the 'Use as' settings to resize the elements to what you want to see
Some of the 'Use as" settings are natural or default for the Mac but others might cause issues - but probably nothing you would notice - but for most people just use a default
The problem I was imagining was thinking that by scaling a 4k display to 1080, I would get a 1080 quality image - which is not the case
So all this is a bit of a non issue.
Excellent video! The topic is one that’s often researched when buying a monitor, and your detailed explanation leaves no room for doubt. Thank you so much!
Thanks
I've been researching on the macOS scaling with different monitors on youtube since a really long time and none of the reviews actually showed the OS and its effects of scaling properly. Your video is exactly what I was looking for so thank you so much for explaining it and showing it with live example on the OS it just gave me so much clarity on my purchase decision between the M4 iMac or the M4 mac mini. After considering this issue I would lean more towards investing in the iMac over Mac mini as I don't want to get into the frustration of monitor resolution and scaling as there are such few options we have with 5k monitors in the market. Thanks a lot!
Oh I just left a comment in your previous video saying basically the same thing, because it was missing😅
Glad to see this updated video
One question that I have is, other than the scaling, when I watch a RUclips video or Netflix, and I click the 4K option, and I have the 27” 4K monitor with the default scaling, will the video display in 4K or 1080p?
@@rafaeldomenikos5978 4k
@@rafaeldomenikos5978 will be 4k.
The scaling only affect software ui elements. Media content. You will still get the full 4k resolution of whatever youtube video or Netflix show you are watching
@@HalfManHalfTech Same doubt, I was considering a fire tv stick for media content. I wanna plug my Mac mini, windows pc and Nintendo Switch on a dell 27''' 4k. Your video is a life saver, thank you so much!!!
Immensely valuable! Thank you for the comparison at the end, I will be going for a 4k monitor and scale it to 1440p, instead of buying a 1440p monitor and running it with its native resolution.
When in a 1440p 2k monitor, if you set the resolution to 1080p, are the media played on the monitor is 2k or 1080p.... Plz reply?
This is such an informative video. You definitely earned a new subscriber. Thanks for all of the great info!
This is hands down the best video on this topic I've seen to date.
So clear in explanation. Excellent tutorial stuff... Thank you!
Amazing video. Thank you so much for the comparison. It was really helpful now that I am on the market for a new monitor
Apple need to work on fractional scaling like windows offers as most people do not own 5K monitors and most don't want 1440p. They really need to offer something directly for 4K monitor owners. (the only other option is to use BetterDisplay)
Everyone who uses Apple products find their displays look much nicer.
@ but not everyone can afford a 5k monitor. They are simply much more expensive than 4k ones.
@@cyberlizardcouk Too bad. Apple isn't a charity.
can you test a 1440p 32" with mac mini m4
I’m waiting on the same topic.
Just got a M4 Mac mini and I’m looking for a good monitor to use.
What monitor do you recommend for a Mac mini 4m? I tend to color correct and that is an important factor for me.
Very informative and useful video, thanks
Do this apply for windows users too or is only mac that has these peculiarities?
Best explanation ever!!! I loved it. It helped me to choose a monitor (Dell P2723QE) for my mini M4.
@@joseamericopelloso4169 currently I have the U2723QE
@HalfManHalfTech U2723QE was my first option but here in Brazil it is still very expensive, in any case it is an excellent choice ... I am using two P2723QE side by side scaled to 1440p
Why not opt for a 32" 4K display instead of the 27" 4K one? I would presume that Mac would maintain a 1:1 scaling ratio for the 32" 4K display, similar to how it handles 1440p displays on 1440p screens. However, I wonder if having a larger screen with significantly smaller UI components on a 32" display could strain the eyes.
Well according to the chart at 4m in the video, a 32" 4K falls in the "bad" zone, which I guess suggests that UI elements would be too small for comfort.
A computer and its OS, doesn't have any information about how big your monitor is. It just knows the resolution it's asked to provide.
Apple could easily make their OS great for 4K monitors, but then they wouldn't sell as many of their own displays.
please make comparison for 32 inch 4k vs 32 inch 1440p
Can we use 1080p on a 1440p screen.. and do we get Little shrap fonts? 😅😅
Lg 24QP550(2k display) or Dell P2425h(full hd) what should I buy?
@abhishek_patra_ Do not go with 24inch you'll regret later.. better spend some more and get a 27 inch 4k monitor...
I have somewhat bad eyes due to age, I was considering using two 27 inch 4K monitors, one mostly to read documents so it needs to be SHARP and the other for the general stuff you do in a Mac including running OLD games once in a while. I was thinking of using two 4K monitors the reading one set to 1080P for more dots per character. Am I wrong with this set up? What would you recommend???
Best video I have seen on this topic. But Is it visually much different? A real video up-close the screens would have been much better :)
Thanks for the feedback. It will be considered for future updates.
Best explanation I’ve seen. Thank you.
Man, thank you for this great video. I would say the best video i've seen on topic.
I don't have mac yet, working on windows. And i read a lot on the forums, what is better on macos, native 1440 on 1440 or scaled 1440 on 4k.
Your video cleared all doubts!
Purchased 4k 27.
Great job!
Hmmm, 2K is 2000 in the horizontal resolution, it's not 1440p unless you have a closer to 4:3 monitor format.
Do videos play in 4K if it’s a 4K video even when the ui resolution is set to 1080p?
I use a mac book pro for everything and gaming on a ps5, since FC25 can only run max at 60fps I am more than well to use both mac and ps5 on the same 4K monitor
Thank you
Very helpful video!
Thank you for this video. But I don't understand how it depends to MacBook Pro 14 M2 Pro. This MacBook have resolution 3024x1964 (1512x982). How it depends to 5120х2880? Thanks.
How about the LG 27GR93U? which is 4k but 144hz. Would that be able to scale it to 1440p but keep at least a 120hz refresh rate with a M1 Macbook Air? Thanks for the video!
I have an lg 32uq750w that is 4k 144hz and a Mac mini m1, it works perfect with both 1080p and 1440p scaling at 144hz. The only problem that I found is that HDR only works in 1080p mode.
Yes it will. If your Mac can handle 4k at 144fps then it can also handle 1440p at 140fps.
The same is also true with your monitor. If it can do 4K at 144 frame per second then it can also display at 1440 P at 144 frames per second.
Monitors are usually limited the other ways round. Like some monitors can do 1440 at 250 or even 460 frames per second but once you go 4K, they can only do 4K at 120 FPS
Shame on apple for this. 2k should be more than enough for most people as it is on windows.
I'm never gonna buy mac again
Thanks. This is the most useful video for me to decide on which external monitor I need for the new Mac mini m4.
I find 27” 1440 native way too small icons/texts on non system apps
hi congratulations for the video full of useful details, I wanted to ask having understood that the best is the 27 inch 4k monitor, is this one better or the 32 inch 4k? which one will adapt better to the mac scaling making everything sharper. Thank you so much!
You can have the sharpness of retina on a 1440p display, but you'd need to scale it to 1280x720 (half resolution from 1440p). That's what the "HiDPI" thing means in the resolutions list, problem is that 1280x720 is a ridiculous resolution and everything looks huge so you lose a lot of space, it's ok if you're gonna use one app at a time on the display, but if you wanna have two apps on screen at once it's not a lot of space.
You could theoretically even do it with a native 1080p display if you set it to half it's native resolution, but that would just be insane, at that point you're working with mid 1990s CRT resolutions
When in a 1440p 2k monitor, if you set the resolution to 1080p, are the media played on the monitor is 2k or 1080p.... Plz reply?
@@abhishek_patra_ It's displaying at 1080p, it will look the same as it would if you got a native 1080p monitor.
The only difference is the 2K monitor has more pixels-per-inch than the 1080p monitor, so the image might be a little bit more crisp.
It's not the same as 4K, you don't get full HiDPI retina mode but it should be harder to see individual pixels than it is on a native 1080p monitor.
Thanks , great explanation
Great video brother. Do you mind answering a question? If I use betterdisplay app on my 4K scaled at 1440p and use a HighDPi option will the “performance affected due to scaling” prompt disappear? Of are those thing unrelated ?
Also, do you still get no impact in performance with Intel Macs?
Thank you 🙏🏼
Thank you!. I've used Macbooks for more than a decade (3 generations), and only now learned of this display info and config. My monitor is native 4K 60Hz but when connected to my M1 Macbook Air it is only 4K 30 Hz. If I set for the default 1920x1080 UI resolution, the monitor resolution also dropped but frame rate can go up to 60 Hz with HDR. The monitor is not even HDR capable. Hmmm...
As I understand it, macOS only shows 1920 x 1080 as the resolution option in settings when using a 27’’ 4K display. Does that mean the display is actually running at 1080p, or is that just a setting while my display is still showing 4K?
@@A-Htje No. No. No. MacOS show 1080 as default resolution for a 4k screen but you can select others. When we talk about scaling is about UI scale, that means everything will be bigger in your screen compared to 4k, so you are losing space. It’s like if you have a 1080 monitor, but your screen is 4k, obviously. You can play videos at 4k.
@@Guillemod thank you very much for your answer
@@Guillemod Hey @Guillemod, just wanted to double-check. Is it accurate that what he did in the video is that the screen is still 4K, but it can play 4K videos? However, the Mac set it as 1920 X 1080 as the default resolution just for the way the UI looks? So, the screen is still 4K, but the UI appears to be 1920X1080?
@@玉米面-b9jexactly
Terrific video explaining scaling on the Mac. Thank you and keep up the great work.
Will 4k monitor have everytthing smaller if its 32" instead of 27"?
Which monitor should I get for MacBook Air M1 (2020), View infinity S8 32 inch, BenQ PD2706UA 27 inch or any LG 4K 27inch?
Which one you got
your monitor advice for a non-gamer using it for plex setup and updating, not plex viewing. a 27” 4k or 1440?
So i got a 27inch 27inch 1440p 240hz oled monitor i have plugged in yesterday and it was working fine 1440p as default and 120hz
But now its 1080p as default and i cannot go up to 4k as well and also not let me do 120hz anymore. Its because of the scaling?
My monitor 1440p but can scale 4k in hdmi 2.1
Highly recommend 32” 4K 120hz+ for Mac/Console gamers.
Do you have any specific recommendations? I'm also leaning towards 32'', the bigger the better I guess
Even more recommended ...Apple give us a newer version 5K Imac 😊
4k set to 1080P is the sweet spot I guess?
What should I do in the case of a 24" 4k display? 1080p (2x scaling) or 1440p? (1.5x scaling)?
1080p (2x scaling)
a question. IF i get a 4k monitor but on mac it says 1080p scaled, on games. They resolution will be 1080p sclaed or normal?
Scaling is for UI elements only.
Looking for a new monitor that I will be using with Macbook Pro 16" M3 and I've basically ended up with 2 options (I don't want to go over the 500 Euro budget):
1. Dell U2723QE -> 4K UHD @60Hz USB-C
2. Dell U2724DE -> 2k QHD @120Hz Thunderbolt
From what I saw, more people recommend the 4k option, although an older model and at a lower refresh rate.
Which would be a better option for working with MacBook Pro ?
@@IonutNegru87 you won’t be able to enjoy the 120hz of you MBP on an external monitor, so if you don’t have a windows computer to plug in for video gaming as well, go for the 4K lower refresh rate.
@@euphoriantraveller8651 Thank you for the recommendation. This is what I did in the end, I bought Dell U2723QE. This works very well also with my dual laptop setup and the KVM works awesome with a dongle!
@@euphoriantraveller8651that’s not true. A MacBook can use this at 120Hz just fine
I settled with the Dell U2723QE. It’s been amazing so far
@@HalfManHalfTech Same, I think it is the best choice at the moment.
How about Intel MacBook Pro? Im planning to buy 32 inch 4k and scale it at 1440p, will it affect the performance?
I had a similar question, I have a M3 Pro and just purchased a 27" ProArt 4K and was concerned that I have gone the wrong direction, however, I'm getting a sense it will be okay, you'll get a sharper image, and the performance impact will be minimal/negligible, especially on these latest machines, I hope that's the case!!
Awesome video! Thanks.
What about using better display on 4K 27 inch monitor can I use 1440p HiDpi. the message that affecting performance will go away?
Hey Half man Techs I see, that you got 1440p @180hz.
I also have a 1440p monitor that has USB c and a refresh rate of 170hz. How can I get the 170hz on the 1440p monitor?
I'm currently using a USB Hub &. Regular HDMI Cable to connect my M1 MacBook Air to my display.
I would like to know how you connected your Mac to the display to get the high refresh rate out of your monitor.
Best regards!
Get a HDMI 2.0 cable with a thunderbolt 3/4 hub
why this video have only 50 likes?
I guess That’s what I get for being a small channel 😅
I see two problems on his video channel. First, the video channel name. Don’t use half tech half man. Try to use more focus name like monitor guy, tech guy, display guy, unbox guy, etc. Even a person name is better than half tech half man. Next one is his profile icon and his clothing (no offence but you are on tech video). You can either put a collar dress shirt over your light color t-shirt or wear darker t-shirt like black or dark blue. People are too entrenched in Steve Job’s black t-shirt or Elon musk’s style.
When in a 1440p 2k monitor, if you set the resolution to 1080p, are the media played on the monitor is 2k or 1080p.... Plz reply?
Great explanation, very helpful!
TLDR: 2K or 5K
@halfmanhalftech how do you feel about videos saying they are having performance issues? Like this guy I’ll link. What you say makes sense that it doesn’t need to refresh the ui unless it’s moving, but what about the actual content or whatever playing or being worked on? Also, people used to always say text never looks as clear when scaled like this, was that fixed? Https://ruclips.net/video/9XVA_N8hyyk/видео.htmlsi=fEZBwEzROqlYU20X
I guess I’m a little confused since you do say an older Mac or a higher refresh rate could affect performance, so that indicates there is always at least some kind of performance hit. So if we buy something that handles it ok now effectively the computer becomes older quicker in the upgrade cycle as things progress?
I’m not too worried about gaming, but I would like to get a 120hz display for the smoothness of general use. Is that an issue? I plan on an M4 Pro, maybe a Max.
Thanks! Great channel
great vid. how about 24 inches monitor with 2k/1440p panel. will it run well for mac ? will it scale for that or run default ?
It's best to get 4k for 24". At that resolution you can scale it to 1080p at around 180 PPI, which is somewhat close to their "retina".
When in a 1440p 2k monitor, if you set the resolution to 1080p, are the media played on the monitor is 2k or 1080p.... Plz reply?
Dell p2425h or LG 24QP550, which is good
I bought 3 days ago a 1440p 27" MSI monitor, unfortunately using it at 2560x1440 is all too small and this thing would make me blind.
I'm trying to use the Better Display app and that way it allows me to set lower resolutions by increasing the sharpness and it works pretty well, but I still feel the texts are not very sharp. I will return the monitor and try a 4K 27".
Unfortunately, the Retina display on my 16" M1 MacBook Pro has fabulous pixel density.
so how's ur 4k 27 inch monitor is doing? im thinkign about getting a 4k monitor too
@kumacupp did the 4k look any better then the 2k .please?
@ yes! I swear!
When in a 1440p 2k monitor, if you set the resolution to 1080p, are the media played on the monitor is 2k or 1080p.... Plz reply?
A RUclips video at 4k goes at 4k also on a low screen resolution, but if you have a 1080p monitor of course you cannot see real differences.
Why use a monitor? I sit in my Recliner in the Living room & nd use my 60" UHDTV with my Sourround System. Why even have a big expensive Entertainment System if you're going to sit in a Dark Dank Basement in an Uncomfortable chair Making You Tube Videos about Monitord. In fact I run two Computers Windows & M4 Mac Mini on to Big Screen 4K UHDTV's. Sitting 10' away I can read every thing here in the Comments with ease.
You make no sense. Bla bla........
Hello, Apple Engineer here.
So many noise. I will conclude:
- Use ANY scaling setting you're COMFORTABLE with. Unlike Windows OS, the macOS's resolution setting does not actually change it, but makes the image to "appear like".
- Performance is non of your concern. At all. Even tho this confusing notification is presented.
- the more PPI -> the sharper image you will get. So 4K >>> 2K. Always.
Tired of such reviews/articles. Thanks.