This is great coaching advice in all aspects regarding alignment and the lower arm. The problem I have is with the upper arm. It is WAY too high. When you upper arm is this high it is only being supported by your rotator cuff muscles muscles when you start to apply downward pressure. Over time this will seriously injure your shoulder. This technique is "old school" dragon boat technique. I wish you paddled in this video because you most likely would not start your catch from this position when you actually paddled. Your body would self correct and your elbow would drop along with your arm. The best paddlers out there are the Tahitians. Here's a video of Shell Va'a, the top Tahitian team. Notice their top arm height as they move into the catch. The top arm is at most only a little above their eye line. In this position the top arm is applying downward pressure primarily supported by the lat and upper pecs.
Wow!! I wish I'd seen this a few years ago....when I was just starting dragon boating. Never being a swimmer, water person or boater I decided to step out of my comfort zone and give it a try. I joined a 6 week Learn To group which immediately transitioned into a competitive team. Sadly because of Covid our two regattas were cancelled. I bought a rowing machine so I could stay in practice. I continued to work my job as a prep cook but I ended up with a small tear in my rotator cuff. I wondered if paddling was a contributing factor. It's not causing as much pain as it did for a year (before I was diagnosed) but I don't think I would be ready to go back to paddling for awhile. However, I did find this 'stacking' video very informative. I thought your demonstration of Rotating vs Bending Forward was an excellent piece of info and makes so much sense!!! I sat on my couch going through the motions and wish I'd seen your videos back when I was still paddling.
My one concern is that as you demonstrate this point, the top shoulder/armpit is OPEN (i.e. pointing to or open to the other paddler on the bench) with the elbow pointing upward rather than CLOSED (armpit pointing to bench/bottom of boat, elbow pointing to the side). I've found that an 'open' shoulder often leads to shoulder injury. Could you speak to this, please?
@Weisha Mize: I agree. I find that if the armpit of my top-hand is too "open" (ie the top elbow points skyway), my shoulder joint becomes vulnerable, and I cannot fully engage my lat muscle.
Hey, i just come across your channel and you guys are doing some amazing stuff with ur videos. Do keep it up. Just some suggestions… 1. The part where your front camera cuts off… i think u should retake and edit it in. Cos from experience not many can visualize what it means for “shoulders or hands to be in-line”. I think that part is crucial. 2. You may want to add a line in the video to mark the gunnel. Same thing make it easy for people to visualize 3. You repeatedly say scapula but you keep touching your serratus anterior. Much as serratus anterior has effect on the scapula but by doing so you r somewhat misleading others. I do highly recommend that you do a video explaining how the shoulder complex works with each other and why wrong posture or technique in dragonboat paddling can lead to injury overtime. Maybe can work with a physio to work on that video so that it gives ur vids more legitimacy of what you are sharing. Hope this will help u build your channel. Keep it up.
Why are you even wearing that headset mic? It's not working. We're getting room reverb from the camera's mic. Bad audio. Please don't do that anymore. It makes you less easy to understand.
This is great coaching advice in all aspects regarding alignment and the lower arm. The problem I have is with the upper arm. It is WAY too high. When you upper arm is this high it is only being supported by your rotator cuff muscles muscles when you start to apply downward pressure. Over time this will seriously injure your shoulder. This technique is "old school" dragon boat technique. I wish you paddled in this video because you most likely would not start your catch from this position when you actually paddled. Your body would self correct and your elbow would drop along with your arm. The best paddlers out there are the Tahitians. Here's a video of Shell Va'a, the top Tahitian team. Notice their top arm height as they move into the catch. The top arm is at most only a little above their eye line. In this position the top arm is applying downward pressure primarily supported by the lat and upper pecs.
Wow!! I wish I'd seen this a few years ago....when I was just starting dragon boating. Never being a swimmer, water person or boater I decided to step out of my comfort zone and give it a try. I joined a 6 week Learn To group which immediately transitioned into a competitive team. Sadly because of Covid our two regattas were cancelled. I bought a rowing machine so I could stay in practice. I continued to work my job as a prep cook but I ended up with a small tear in my rotator cuff. I wondered if paddling was a contributing factor. It's not causing as much pain as it did for a year (before I was diagnosed) but I don't think I would be ready to go back to paddling for awhile. However, I did find this 'stacking' video very informative. I thought your demonstration of Rotating vs Bending Forward was an excellent piece of info and makes so much sense!!! I sat on my couch going through the motions and wish I'd seen your videos back when I was still paddling.
Loving your tips and hints to improve our paddling experience thanks! Keep it up!
My one concern is that as you demonstrate this point, the top shoulder/armpit is OPEN (i.e. pointing to or open to the other paddler on the bench) with the elbow pointing upward rather than CLOSED (armpit pointing to bench/bottom of boat, elbow pointing to the side). I've found that an 'open' shoulder often leads to shoulder injury. Could you speak to this, please?
@Weisha Mize: I agree. I find that if the armpit of my top-hand is too "open" (ie the top elbow points skyway), my shoulder joint becomes vulnerable, and I cannot fully engage my lat muscle.
Hey, i just come across your channel and you guys are doing some amazing stuff with ur videos. Do keep it up. Just some suggestions…
1. The part where your front camera cuts off… i think u should retake and edit it in. Cos from experience not many can visualize what it means for “shoulders or hands to be in-line”. I think that part is crucial.
2. You may want to add a line in the video to mark the gunnel. Same thing make it easy for people to visualize
3. You repeatedly say scapula but you keep touching your serratus anterior. Much as serratus anterior has effect on the scapula but by doing so you r somewhat misleading others. I do highly recommend that you do a video explaining how the shoulder complex works with each other and why wrong posture or technique in dragonboat paddling can lead to injury overtime. Maybe can work with a physio to work on that video so that it gives ur vids more legitimacy of what you are sharing.
Hope this will help u build your channel. Keep it up.
Can you create a content on the ideal range of motion for maintenance that’s efficient?
Leaning causes injury? I didnt know that, my seniors lean at their setup pace, now my lower back hurts..
What do you call that wood (semi-paddle) attached to the machine?
Great video and channel dudes! just change the mic.
How can I set up my concept2 to practice? Is there a video for that?
What about pec and bicep tendon strains?.. asking for a friend 👀👀👀
Do you retract your top arm's scapula (all the way down?)
why did the mic randomly change
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Why are you even wearing that headset mic? It's not working. We're getting room reverb from the camera's mic. Bad audio. Please don't do that anymore. It makes you less easy to understand.