Will This Solve EV Charging at Work? | Solaflect Interview

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  • @AWildBard
    @AWildBard 2 месяца назад +42

    I definitely agree that people greatly underestimate the value of slow charging.
    If every home, apartment, street, mall, workplace has tons of slow chargers, you would only need fast charges on long distance trips.
    You would always have more than you need and you would only need to charge once a week or so.

    • @hilgi2003
      @hilgi2003 2 месяца назад +7

      I prefer slow. Bums me out when I stay at a Hotel that only have Superchargers, I want slow destination chargers that fill my car while I sleep.

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +1

      Well said - charging needs to be convenient and everywhere - particularly everywhere vehicles sit for long periods of time. The DOE projects workplace EV charging will grow from low single digits to 15% of all charging by 2030. Other than at home, where EVs obviously sit overnight anyway, the workplace is the next obvious location for long charging sessions, and it happens to be during daylight hours... when the sun is shining, so a good fit for charging EVs straight from the sun!

    • @user-bi7nq4nj7q
      @user-bi7nq4nj7q 2 месяца назад +4

      If I plug in my 1200W charger, I get 35-40 miles by next day's trip to and from work, every day. If I need more, I step it up. keep battery below 80% last rip to AMPM (gas station) was for a drink and a snack. Super simple, super easy, super cheep as its now from a solar setup thats already paid off

    • @pstoneking3418
      @pstoneking3418 Месяц назад +1

      And our charging infrastructure is not ready for long distance EV traveling. If I had to depend on public chargers I wouldn't have purchased my lightning. I use my EV locally, i charge at home at $.12/kwh in summer & $.08/kwh in the winter. And lately I charge using my home 13kw solar system.

    • @pstoneking3418
      @pstoneking3418 Месяц назад

      ​​@@user-bi7nq4nj7qExcellent. I'm now charging my Ford lightning from my home solar system. Works great because my 2-3 trips a week into town at 60 miles a trip or less. I can easily keep my truck charged to 80-90% SOC. Then after a couple of cloudy days I use my truck to run my home and or charge my solar batteries. But normally just run my home using the 7200 watt receptical located in the bed of my truck. I use about 23 kwh a day so at 80% charge my 131 kwh truck battery still has 104 kwh of power available to me. Easily powering my home for up to 4 days with no sun. I actual get enough power to charge my 33 kwh batteries on a cloudy day. Ive never gone 4 days with no sun at all.

  • @Greenspaceservices
    @Greenspaceservices 2 месяца назад +24

    Could be great for remote locations or off grid living too :)

    • @rick_n_tx
      @rick_n_tx 2 месяца назад

      @@Greenspaceservices if you take a look at their older videos that was the business model 4-5 years ago

    • @user-bi7nq4nj7q
      @user-bi7nq4nj7q 2 месяца назад +2

      Its too expensive for that! Build your own system super easy if you are off grid or remote, for a fraction of the cost - for your ONE car, to do that same charging, you need a $1200 4kw inverter (doesnt even have to be signwave since its RECTIFIED again before going into the battery, the panels you can get used for about $50/250W. You only need to bring in about 12-15kwh/car to give you an average daily of 30-60 mi range/day. thats $1500 for the panels, $600 for quality industrial 4kw inverter (not sign wave!, simple device!), now add batteries - 10kwh is about $2500. I didnt even mention the batteries in my other posts above. for about $5500 you can get a system that offsets about $3-$6/day fuel. Best case payoff would be 2-5 years depending on use and milage of vehicle. I used to drive a 2003 tacoma at 20mpg. The offset from making the ev the commuter has saved me about $200/mo in fuel costs, while paying off my home solar at a much faster rate

  • @suvari225
    @suvari225 2 месяца назад +11

    I still think that covering parking lots with solar panels is a better way. It will provide shade to everyone even for employees with ICE vehicle. Put a larger battery and 8-12 level 2 chargers on the back row. And here is your off grid EV charging without rotating giant mass of panels

    • @suvari225
      @suvari225 2 месяца назад

      Heck, you can even put 1-2 DC fast chargers if you have 200kwh battery bank and 50-80kw array on a medium parking lot.

    • @xiaoka
      @xiaoka Месяц назад +1

      yes, the cost of solar panels is dropping, the need for tracking becomes less and less compelling, especially given the need for maintenance and the risk of wind and water damage on that moving array.
      Meanwhile everyone will love shaded parking lots.

  • @raxzore
    @raxzore 2 месяца назад +11

    I hope Solaflect design these to be easily manufacturable, and open more factories fast!

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +2

      Turning out 5 a week just now and a pretty clear path to ramping up with investment

  • @slowercuber7767
    @slowercuber7767 2 месяца назад +3

    8:20 I worked in my electric power company’s dedicated control center. Everything was new around 2010. Someone decided to put in some charging stations, maybe around 2012. It took months. Many months. And we were the frigging POWER company… So I believe you.

  • @LJ-jq8og
    @LJ-jq8og 2 месяца назад +9

    Rob has "mastered"💪 how to explain this... I think a series of perfected RUclips videos "spoon feeding" this neat product for the masses would help it take off better...

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +1

      You're nice to say - "bite sized chunks" forthcoming

  • @SkepticalCaveman
    @SkepticalCaveman 2 месяца назад +9

    Solar charging makes so much sense. When the sun gives free energy just harvest it.

  • @byronstuckless4140
    @byronstuckless4140 2 месяца назад +6

    Hertz could buy some of these instead of selling off all their EV fleet at a loss. They can then turn off the requirement to return the cars with a full charge.

  • @ismailnyeyusof3520
    @ismailnyeyusof3520 2 месяца назад +3

    This was a great interview by Zac and Jesse. In past interviews with supposedly disruptive technology CEOs or executives, the technology was sometimes sketchy and it seemed like that with this company too but Zac and Jesse knew how to ask questions that probe deep. It was a very interesting and engaging conversation and Rob was super smart in answering questions. There might be use cases for the tracking system, such as tornado prone or remote areas, where difficulties arise but besides that, it looks very promising. This channel remains my top choice for breaking technology.

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад

      Appreciate the thoughts - we're trying to be conservative in the approach. Needs to perform, first and foremost, which it's doing.

  • @Randy-J
    @Randy-J 2 месяца назад +12

    I found and eventually invested in Aptera thanks to the both of you. Will Solaflect be my next one. Living in Southern Ontario we have very similar weather conditions. Would be great to see the company up here. Lot's of remote places in a large part of the country.

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +2

      Would love to get Solaflect to southern Ontario - a lot like Vermont, indeed, and we have a soft spot for north of the border.

    • @LJ-jq8og
      @LJ-jq8og 2 месяца назад +1

      IF I were you I would prioritize $Tsla and this company... Get out of aptera while you can ! It’s another: fisker, Arcimoto, lucid or rivian, it WILL go bankrupt… Not an IF but a WHEN they go "under..." !

    • @Randy-J
      @Randy-J 2 месяца назад +1

      @@LJ-jq8og You could be right. Can't sell until it goes public. High risk high reward.

    • @LJ-jq8og
      @LJ-jq8og 2 месяца назад

      @@Randy-J I am "bitter" about certain YT Influencers who "pumped" Aptera up nauseatingly... One of them now gets paid directly by Aptera... It pisses me off big time... SO I wish you the best...
      The only NON index fund I have ever purchased was $TSLA and so far that has been a "gift..." I use to work investigating "white collar fraud" cases and every time I saw an interview with various CEOs like that of LUCID, RIVIAN, FISKER, ARCHIMOTO, and many other alleged "geniuses" I smelled something bad ! 🤮 in their "style etc., ... Just my opinion of course:
      But to me many of those SOBs are outright charlatans ⁉... Solaflect does pass my "smell test" BUT I just dont know whether it will be "the one" to make this technology take off... It is certainly a niche product... Again, low-cost ETF index funds are as near-guaranteed success that exist in this crazy world, $TSLA is my "rogue investment..." baby 😊

    • @crpunks
      @crpunks 2 месяца назад

      @@LJ-jq8ogyeah Arcimoto turned out pretty badly even after all that exposure they got

  • @soundslight7754
    @soundslight7754 2 месяца назад +12

    Great idea and CEO 👍

  • @jack4socal
    @jack4socal 2 месяца назад +9

    Sounds like a great company. I am curious what the max wind loads their system will handle? Here in Southern California, the desert areas routinely see sustained winds of 40-50 miles per hour with gusts going much higher.

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +4

      Currently stamped for 115mph, and further engineering and future iterations will get to 125mph+

  • @ahaveland
    @ahaveland 2 месяца назад +3

    I made a 2 axis tracker in 2018 using 2 stepper motors and 3D printed worm gears. Incredibly accurate to microradians, almost good enough for star tracking!
    Just needed an Arduino, GPS module to get location and time, and wrote some fairly complex code to derive elevation and azimuth from the time and location.
    Worked pretty well for a small panel, and can be scaled up for a couple of square meters just using 3D printed bits and a few dollars.
    Add an anemometer and then make it go into defence mode if a storm approaches.

    • @LJ-jq8og
      @LJ-jq8og 2 месяца назад

      Awesome !

  • @antoniopalmero4063
    @antoniopalmero4063 Месяц назад +1

    Love the solaflect sun tracking array

  • @andreschapero3615
    @andreschapero3615 2 месяца назад +16

    How can it be that there are not millions of these SOLAFLECT contraptions installed everywhere already ? Who would not want to lease something as amazing as this for 4K/yr. ? Please explain.

    • @RossSlots
      @RossSlots 2 месяца назад +1

      Tornados in Texas. Cant find the wind rating

    • @raxzore
      @raxzore 2 месяца назад +2

      It's a new technology. It might reach that stage after many years, with more EVs.
      Clever designs require hard work and skill to figure out, but are obvious is retrospect. I can't find any flaws at this moment 😎

    • @WardenClyff
      @WardenClyff 2 месяца назад

      Weve been looking into the parking lot product no more than two years ago

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад

      Love your thinking :) All in due time, but it starts with awareness - great of Zach and Jessie to spread the word with enthusiasm. In all humility, we DO think there's a bit of a 'no brainer' in the low-risk/cost lease approach, in particular

    • @djsparkyy
      @djsparkyy 2 месяца назад

      It's very simple, they just started selling them.
      Zach even asked him if he was in a different state would he be able to buy one and have it set up and the answer was," we want to have as many of those conversations as possible" which means that they're not able to sell them to every state yet.
      Short of Elon musk buying the company and bringing production into a gigafactory it's going to take them years to get up to a very large volume.
      It seems like they've done a good job of making it as simple and modular as possible so it definitely seems like they can scale it. However I would expect if they got an order for a million of these units today it would take them a minimum of 5 to 10 years to fulfill it
      That's not a knock against them, just the reality of volume production.
      They definitely have a lot of potential though, if they started working directly with corporate partners they could easily sell dozens, hundreds or thousands of units at a time.
      Imagine if something like New York Life, which has offices all over the place, decided they wanted to put these chargers in every possible location as part of a carbon reduction plan. It would be an instant sale of hundreds of units.
      It could get tricky with the leasing models though, if too many of their sales are leases then they could easily get in over their heads if people change their mind after a year. This guy seems pretty sharp so I'm sure they have crunched the numbers and are going to put aside a certain percentage for leasing and the rest for sale only.

  • @slowercuber7767
    @slowercuber7767 2 месяца назад +2

    24:27 thanks for the reminder! **plugs in phone**

  • @s.lionelmcauley4455
    @s.lionelmcauley4455 2 месяца назад +2

    In a TOU market negative rates will move your prime EV charge window into the evenings.
    Weekend production can be stored in the battery and taken up on the weekdays.

  • @duaneherndon6736
    @duaneherndon6736 2 месяца назад +10

    Public schools should have these

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +2

      100% agree - schools of all kinds are a great fit for an off-grid solar EV charging solution

    • @theairstig9164
      @theairstig9164 2 месяца назад +3

      Mine uses solar as an offset to the cost of running the school. A generous one off donation from 100 parents paid for a 100kw system but the school needs half that. We now no longer need to top up with donations or cake drives

    • @xiaoka
      @xiaoka Месяц назад

      @@theairstig9164 and they sit under used on weekends and sunny summer days making $$$ (assuming they have net metering)

  • @WardenClyff
    @WardenClyff 2 месяца назад +5

    I literally work there, I have been a part of the team many times, youre able to see a time lapse of the work i did at the dartmouth college campus on youtube somewhere

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад

      Thank you for helping make this happen! It's taken a village...

    • @rick_n_tx
      @rick_n_tx 2 месяца назад

      @@WardenClyff what’s the onboard connectivity? Cellular?

    • @WardenClyff
      @WardenClyff 2 месяца назад

      @@rick_n_tx
      Not sure what you’re asking

    • @rick_n_tx
      @rick_n_tx 2 месяца назад

      @@WardenClyff what if any network connectivity is contained within the pedestal. How does an owner get system status, charging metrics and history

    • @WardenClyff
      @WardenClyff 2 месяца назад

      @@rick_n_tx
      Those are in the side boxes, they’re cellularly connected

  • @seanmivey
    @seanmivey 2 месяца назад +10

    Airport long term parking!!!!!!!!!

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +1

      Exactly - perfect application with those grid-tied chargers tied up for days by EVs that topped off in the first few hours

  • @keithjansen1734
    @keithjansen1734 Месяц назад +1

    If a corporation were to lease one of these and offer as a job perk you get free solar charging it would only cost the company $2.75 per day per car (4 cars). Good sales model and it is a win win for everyone involved.

    • @laughinggas5281
      @laughinggas5281 Месяц назад

      I wonder if the per day is based on a 5-day or 7-Day week. The point being for many businesses there would be no one charging over the weekend and all of that solar power would just get dumped

  • @jensdenk9235
    @jensdenk9235 Месяц назад +1

    The new bifacial panels are perfect for this application.

  • @daninthemoon2616
    @daninthemoon2616 2 месяца назад +2

    Advance to 49 minute mark for details

  • @carolinebray82
    @carolinebray82 Месяц назад +1

    Boom 🔨 perfect clip 😂44:50

  • @LJ-jq8og
    @LJ-jq8og 2 месяца назад +2

    Seems like a future option would be an aerial version for the roof connected to your TESLA power-walls...

  • @Epicookiez
    @Epicookiez 2 месяца назад +2

    this would work best in rural areas where it's not the easiest to run energy from utilities

  • @jp34604
    @jp34604 2 месяца назад +2

    He said it's $4,000 a month to lease it but if I'm not mistaken he did not say for how long?
    Vers 40k to purchase less 8k credit???
    What exactly is the wind load capacity?
    Can it be collapsed easily in advance of a storm, and how long does it take??

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 Месяц назад

      Nope - not sure where you got that. Details in the interview, but $4,000 a YEAR to lease, 3 year lease - will soon move to 6 year lease but early ones shorter. $50k to purchase - $15,000 (30% solar tax credit) - $35,000. Also accelerated depreciation takes it down another $9k to $26,000 if a tax paying entity.

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 Месяц назад

      Currently 115mph wind rated -- fine for all US except hurricane bands - e.g. almost all of Florida, 20 mile band on Atlantic coast, few other spots.

  • @rickperalta1921
    @rickperalta1921 2 месяца назад +4

    A conservstively run business!
    WOW!

  • @electricvehiclesug256
    @electricvehiclesug256 Месяц назад +1

    This will disrupt for sure. Thanks guys

  • @scottmuench6855
    @scottmuench6855 2 месяца назад +1

    What would it take to get DC to DC (panel to car battery) directly? What is the efficiency gain? Cost savings?

  • @James_Ryan
    @James_Ryan 2 месяца назад +1

    Genius! But since it's not grid-tied, you could charge in DC mode to shave 10% loss, giving you 50% more juice than fixed panels...

  • @markstemmett5296
    @markstemmett5296 2 месяца назад +1

    At Microcare in South Africa we build DC charges, panels, charger car. That’s it 50kW increments

  • @lars-akeclasson875
    @lars-akeclasson875 2 месяца назад +3

    2 Facts based on Numbers from the ”salesman”: 10000 - 15000kWh per year, simple math give you 27 to 41kWh per day. He says that should be divided by 4 cars, I.e. approx 7 to 10kWh per car per day (he doesn’t want to give you that figure because it makes it easy to compare with other things suddenly). He also forgets to mention that it in reality with the stand it takes the space required for 6 cars! What’s the cost for 2 lost spaces per year, certainly not zero! 1st fact that should be kept in mind. Second, what does 10000-15000kWh per year cost to buy? We have very expensive energy where I live so that would be max $1500 per year, l believe NA prices are in general much lower. I cannot fathom how any calculation on return on investment could turn out good with the purchase price + yearly maintenance cost or lease per year cost. Solutions like this are never economically feasible because the amount of energy obtained is too small compared to the investment cost.

    • @Doltenbur
      @Doltenbur Месяц назад

      Had to scroll through 40 comments full of nonsense before I found the only one that is based on facts. Sadly, I already knew it was a scam because I have solar in my roof. Will the rest see it? I doubt it...

  • @Sephro
    @Sephro 2 месяца назад

    As a new EV owner, I have researched different options for charging and wish they made one of these for home that was an affordable smaller version, that was also able to be plugged into the grid. So if you don't get enough sun to charge up during the day to meet your min required level of charge, it would then switch and charge some during off-peak hours at night from the grid. That way you could get everything possible that day from the sun, but with the same plug it could subsidize from the grid only when necessary.
    But even looking at basic solar setups it would take many years to break even under ideal conditions every day, so it's a huge risk spending more than it would cost to just charge from the grid...

    • @krisalis709
      @krisalis709 2 месяца назад +1

      Solar tracking only makes sense on larger sized arrays. They kind of brushed this aside, but usually the answer is to just get more solar panels. Solar panels are cheap and are only getting cheaper. If you want to increase your production especially in a residential deployment getting more panels is usually better than sticking those panels on a tracker. The tracker in itself takes some power to operate and the mount and hydraulics cost money to build.
      This product can possibly work because it's an array of 16 panels that they placed on a single tracker. To get a 40% increase in power you would need to buy 7 panels. I don't know the numbers, but if this company's claims are true then their tracker array is cheaper than the cost of 7 additional panels.
      The largest value of a solar tracking array is that you can generate more power while using a smaller land profile, but in general at least in the United States, land usually isn't an issue. I can see these being used in places like Hawaii or an island nation where land is at a premium. You would be able to generate more power/sqft.

  • @cjonesplay1
    @cjonesplay1 2 месяца назад +1

    Wow this is Brilliant

  • @Snerdles
    @Snerdles 2 месяца назад +2

    Can the tracker be separated from the charge points, or does it have to be placed in the center of 4 spots to charge 4 cars like that?

  • @howardwinrow62
    @howardwinrow62 2 месяца назад +1

    Oh to be 20 something again and be just starting out in my sales career. This is "Shootin' fish in a barrel"!😮😅. And I would predict 30 years of solid growth. What an opportunity!

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 Месяц назад

      Very kind of you to say - hope you're right - do believe it's an idea with broad application - thanks

  • @keithjansen1734
    @keithjansen1734 Месяц назад

    Our city put solar chargers at the library using covered parking to generate the power for the e.v. charger.

  • @andreschapero3615
    @andreschapero3615 2 месяца назад +3

    BBBBBBBBBBBBbrilliant !!!!!!!!!

  • @HackingHollywood
    @HackingHollywood 2 месяца назад +1

    "sun trap" could be an interesting name. Reminds me of a fly trap but for the sun.

  • @carsonc1272
    @carsonc1272 2 месяца назад +5

    Cost equation is at 29:50

    • @Hajduk12
      @Hajduk12 2 месяца назад

      Way too expensive for home use.

    • @carsonc1272
      @carsonc1272 2 месяца назад

      @@Hajduk12 Ya, hopefully there's some kind of inexpensive solar carport around the corner.

    • @TSLApilot
      @TSLApilot 2 месяца назад

      So $0.10 per mile of charge …seems rather expensive.

    • @carsonc1272
      @carsonc1272 2 месяца назад

      @@TSLApilot I pay about 10 cents per mile at Tesla superchargers, and about 15 cents per mile at other chargers. I'm at about 3 cents per mile when I charge at home.

    • @TSLApilot
      @TSLApilot 2 месяца назад +1

      @@carsonc1272 That sounds about right. But I only use superchargers on long trips (a smaller percentage of my charging). I certainly wouldn’t want to pay that rate for daily charging (such as if this was at work parking lot ).

  • @dyhppyx
    @dyhppyx 2 месяца назад +2

    Super cool

  • @gregohare2406
    @gregohare2406 Месяц назад +1

    Have you calculated the max wind speed this unit can handle?

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 Месяц назад

      Indeed - PE stamped at 115mph. Future iterations will continue to meet higher wind speed requirements.

  • @notaforte
    @notaforte Месяц назад

    If I had the money, I would create a giant balloon with solar panels all around it to avoid a motor driving to find the sun. And it looks better than a flat panel.

  • @bikematt5781
    @bikematt5781 Месяц назад +1

    Great work! I live in Arizona! how can we helpeachother?

  • @deeziegaming8545
    @deeziegaming8545 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm ready to lease at least two of them here in Florida cash in hand and I'll do way more if I borrow.

  • @savinogriesi4761
    @savinogriesi4761 2 месяца назад +1

    Trackers are super simple well known algorithm a single standard outlet produces the equivalent KWH and predictably. This is about $3.50 per day of electricity. Trust the science

    • @LJ-jq8og
      @LJ-jq8og 2 месяца назад +1

      Makes me want to DIY one... But God did not give me those skills ...

  • @wonderplanet343
    @wonderplanet343 2 месяца назад +2

    Hmmm interesting. Does it store power? Thanks ❤

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад

      Rated to 115mph - if winds get that strong, we have a lot bigger problems. 45 million machine hours in the Northeast would say they handle weather just fine. And solar panels handle hail - takes some wicked big hail stones to damage a solar panel. Enough power to fully charge 4 EVs for all their average annual usage - good bit of power!

  • @Adrayven
    @Adrayven 2 месяца назад +2

    I have 2 Eco-Worthy solar trackers with 1600w each of panels .. love them.. I did have to do some 'modifications' to DIY the extra 2 panels to get 8 total on it, and swap out the actuator with a much more robust one .. but wouldn't trade them for anything.

  • @mintakan003
    @mintakan003 2 месяца назад +3

    I'm thinking it would also be useful for something like Gogoro. E-scooter. Swappable battery banks. For the developing world, with poor grids, ... this is like free fuel for transportation needs. And two and three wheelers are more palatable in these countries.

  • @tedbischak1067
    @tedbischak1067 2 месяца назад +1

    Seems like a great idea if someone buys it. What does the warranty look like?

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 Месяц назад +1

      Panels warrantied 25 years, inverter 10, machine 5 years 'bumper to bumper'

  • @Tiersmoke92555
    @Tiersmoke92555 Месяц назад

    I'm a tradesman. I don't work in the same facility every day. My Boss is about 90 minutes away with no traffic. I carry about 550kg of tools and equipment. Every week I move a 3600kg trailer on average about 500km. I'm one of the thousands of people that feed their families like this. What reasonable solutions do we have in this new world?

    • @michaelsmithers4900
      @michaelsmithers4900 Месяц назад

      Is this a transportation question? If so I’d start by looking at an app called plug share to see what charging is along your routes or major highways in your area. If you’re considering an EV the prices of electricity at home or your commercial rate if you have one is far cheaper than gas or diesel. EV trucks are high right now but I would expect to see lower priced Cyber Trucks, hopefully in the next year. At that point it may be economically advantageous to go for it after considering the above…
      Just to complete the thought on charging- charge at home/ work as much as possible i.e. at night. A 220v outlet will allow lvl 2 charging so in the am you’ll have a “full charge” minimizing more expensive DC fast charging. But DC fast is good for poping in for 10 min to get you home with some buffer.
      I think the solution in this video isn’t the answer for your specific use case.

  • @chrisRevGenetics
    @chrisRevGenetics 2 месяца назад +1

    Time ?
    How much time does it take from you first receive an order to having it up and running ?

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +1

      If in a market we're currently serving, about a month.

  • @MarkSpohr
    @MarkSpohr 2 месяца назад

    I have a Beam solar canopy with EV charging which is similar to this but more expensive. (It includes a 40 kWh battery).
    Works well but is expensive.
    I worry about the Solaflect panel suspension wires in the snow.

  • @raxzore
    @raxzore 2 месяца назад +1

    Can you connect this solar to additional parking spaces charger ports cheaply?, when it's underutilized, e.g. at long term parking at airports.

  • @KineticEV
    @KineticEV 2 месяца назад +1

    I think I'm interested in how much real-estate might be needed for a parking lot of the future where more EV's are parked than a few here and there. I guess you could do banks of 4 and space them apart in a parking lot in rows so that the solar array has clearance to move throughout the day and any space in between can accommodate non EV's.
    But I think that set at 16A to 24A that could be a decent charge if you're parked for 4 to 8 hours a day depending on your commute. For instance, I just bought a ne CHargePoint EVSE and for some strange reason it's been charging at a max of 16A even though it's a plug in unit on a 50A breaker capable of delivering 32A. That being said it still kicks in at off peak hours and charges and I'm ready to go at 80% before I leave the house for work. Now, I know in my case I need to have that looked at and I suspect ChargePoint will have to do a remote reset....but I'm just trying to show that if this solar unit is splitting power that even at lower output per car each vehicle can potentially top off easily every day.

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +3

      That's right - we usually space these a minimum of 45 feet apart - post to post - so they don't shade each other early/late in the day - so 5 or 6 parking spaces apart

  • @James_Ryan
    @James_Ryan 2 месяца назад

    48:32 There are wallboxes (such as Myenergi Zappi) that can act as passport control to electrons, ensuring that you only charge on solar.

  • @farmerbond4210
    @farmerbond4210 Месяц назад

    So lease agreement if average ev gets 3.5mi/kwh means 40000mi/3.5=11,429kwh $4000/yr lease /11,429kwh= 35c/kwh use that to decide whether it fits your business or not. Our residential rate is 11.5c/kwh fixed or 3.3c/kwh from 10p-5am on tou plan

  • @laurensargent9471
    @laurensargent9471 Месяц назад +1

    Can these be installed at homes to charge EVs and supplement whole home solar?

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 Месяц назад

      Sure can on the EV charging front, but they're designed as an off-grid, 100% solar solution, rather than tied into anything other directly to the EVs.

  • @LJ-jq8og
    @LJ-jq8og 2 месяца назад +6

    4 households in a rural area could buy and split the cost too !

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +1

      For sure - no shortage of rural applications, particularly those with tying into the grid is challenging

    • @Tiersmoke92555
      @Tiersmoke92555 Месяц назад

      I'm not home when the sun is up... My batteries at home are not big enough to support the house and car overnight... I don't park in the same place everyday... What's my solution?

  • @pstoneking3418
    @pstoneking3418 Месяц назад

    I use my 7.2 kwh 240 volt charger connected to my home solar batteries via a 10kw PowerMr inverter to charge my 2022 Ford lightning. Normally, I only charge for about 3 hours max, so I still have plenty of solar left to top off my solar batteries. My trips iinto town never exceed 60 miles & maybe 2-3 trips a week. I average 20-25 mpk, so 2 to 3.5 hrs of solar charging replenishes my vehicles 60 mile trips.

  • @tedbearfudge
    @tedbearfudge 2 месяца назад

    Seems a decent way to solve some issues. Will probably only work in places that have a lot of sun (not the UK). 6.4KW per hour max, How much does the tracker motor use? So max kw per car is 1.6 kw per hour if 4 cars are hooked up to it. max generation approx 12kw in an 8 hour day. If you pay 50p per kw that's £6 per day, £30 per week, £1350 in a 45 week year (per car). Some days you will not generate anywhere near 6.4kw/h. my figures could be way off so please do not hesitate to prove me wrong. Interesting though.

  • @whodatcatt
    @whodatcatt 2 месяца назад +1

    Parking garage top level

  • @dirkvornholt2507
    @dirkvornholt2507 Месяц назад

    With solar panels being dirt cheap these days I wonder if a solar tracker is worth the hassle. Having some more surface area on a fixed solar roof above the parking lot would be cheaper and allow for parking in a shaded space. Trackers also won't benefit in cloudy conditions thst much while greater surface area will increase yield in diffuse light conditions.

  • @davetibbals5872
    @davetibbals5872 Месяц назад

    Pensacola, FL has a new Supercharger just 1/4 mile South of I-10.

  • @TheWhyGuyChannel
    @TheWhyGuyChannel 2 месяца назад +1

    I can see the benefit in a parking lot for ev charging, but IMO it's not for home use whereas buying 40% more panels is cheaper and easier to maintain than this system.

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +1

      That's why the primary market is workplace EV charging, indeed - where EVs sit around in the sun all day

    • @TheWhyGuyChannel
      @TheWhyGuyChannel 2 месяца назад

      @@robadams3664 agreed

  • @dougjohns5115
    @dougjohns5115 2 месяца назад +6

    They should pair it with a large bank of batteries.

    • @JRP3
      @JRP3 2 месяца назад +3

      Which increases the cost and the physical footprint.

    • @soundslight7754
      @soundslight7754 2 месяца назад +2

      What's the point? The business model and usecase is direct sun to car battery

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад

      We've studied this topic closely, and the "gating factor" really isn't battery storage on the machine, it's sunshine. As long as one EV is plugged in, it's taking all the power.

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +1

      @@JRP3 Exactly - well said

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +3

      @@soundslight7754 That's right - the storage in 4 EVs parked underneath is... 250kwh to 400kwh or so... so just put the sunshine straight in those batteries rather than mount additional expensive storage on the machine

  • @philipdamask2279
    @philipdamask2279 2 месяца назад +1

    What are you doing about the shading caused by the cables holding the system together.

    • @p.b.7861
      @p.b.7861 2 месяца назад +1

      I have the same question about the shading that will reduced power and with the new bifacial panels (will white rock on the ground) will that even improve more than 40 % efficiency ?

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 Месяц назад +1

      Shading from the cabling is less than 1% - not significant.

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 Месяц назад

      @@p.b.7861 Indeed, we've used bifacials on our Trackers in residential/small commercial settings and see as much as a 10% bump from reflection - clouds, reflective material on the ground, etc. Best opportunity is of course above the snow line for winter reflection off of snow, but shiny/reflective vehicles will certainly help

    • @p.b.7861
      @p.b.7861 Месяц назад

      Thank you

  • @protectanimals9792
    @protectanimals9792 2 месяца назад +6

    So many hot parking lots 🌏👍

  • @hoffinger
    @hoffinger Месяц назад +1

    Bifacial solar panels might add more power.

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 Месяц назад

      Using bifacial panels - exactly.

  • @anthonymorgan1445
    @anthonymorgan1445 2 месяца назад +1

    I wish my work had charging

  • @michaelsmithers4900
    @michaelsmithers4900 Месяц назад +1

    It’s disingenuous to say “your car is running on gas” that’s not the point. EVs are greener running on gas or even coal produced electricity. This is true for two reasons. 1) EVs are far more efficient than ICE vehicles 2) Coal and Gas power plants are more efficient than ICE engines.
    Also this is one metric. Street level emissions are bad for humans for example. Ppl spill at least small amounts of fuel and ICE cars leak as they age…

  • @dannysdailys
    @dannysdailys Месяц назад

    Wonderful. so if it rains that day you call an Uber. Does Uber have pickup trucks?

  • @635574
    @635574 2 месяца назад +2

    giv it a SEC(solat ev charger)
    Actual new name ideas:
    Solarbay
    Solarpoint
    Sunpercharger

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад

      Keep 'em coming :) We'll know the right one when we see it...
      😂

  • @MikeCgaz
    @MikeCgaz Месяц назад

    Need more charges out on Interstates between cities. Home charging at 32 amps is perfect for local and suburb travel..... IMO

  • @D0li0
    @D0li0 2 месяца назад +1

    Can it back feed or netmeter on weekends, shame to waste photons...

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +1

      Weekends/holidays are great opportunities for fleet charging, or creative use for other local EV chargers to leverage.

  • @jjamespacbell
    @jjamespacbell 2 месяца назад +2

    Is the system DC power all the way? DC from Solar panels, DC batteries, DC charge to the car? No inverter needed.

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад

      Working on that - next iteration

  • @yoz22floryn
    @yoz22floryn Месяц назад +1

    Waste of money for tracking and is not 40 procent increase 😂

  • @irepairofpc31familykartrac51
    @irepairofpc31familykartrac51 Месяц назад

    Those kites won’t last long down here on the gulf coast.😂

  • @kuhbri5265
    @kuhbri5265 2 месяца назад +1

    what was the price and the wattage ?

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +1

      $4k annual lease. 6.4kw array producing 10,000 kWh northeast, 14,000kwh southwest - roughly. Tracking produces 40% more power than solar panels on a fixed surface

  • @vevenaneathna
    @vevenaneathna Месяц назад

    lol im building a 8kwh ev range extender coz im sick of getting to my hospital rotation site and all the ev chargers being taken. i drive a phev with an 11kwh usable (16.5kwh total) battery. the difference between getting a charge at my place of work is the difference between using ~0.2 gal or 2 gal of gas (10x). my EV range extender is going to have pass through charging so i can top off my car and the extra battery. then i can drive home and charge my car again with the extra power. siphoning off 1$ extra of electricity per day. idk the whole free charging thing is weird, people are starting to rely on it, buying an ev with no where to charge other than work, sitting at the chargers for 12+ hrs all day. the battery im building only cost 650 bucks all in.

  • @rick_n_tx
    @rick_n_tx 2 месяца назад +1

    Help me with the math here. Whats the output with one car plugged in on a noon sunny day. Assume divide that by # of plugged in.

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +1

      Think of it as an average of 120miles of charge a day in the northeast, more like 170miles in southwest (more sun). And how much each vehicle gets depends on how many are plugged in - power is shared dynamically - if 1 EV, it gets all the power, 2 EVs splits it 2 ways, etc.

    • @rick_n_tx
      @rick_n_tx 2 месяца назад

      @@robadams3664 so typical L2 240v 30-40amp output on a clear day. Whats onboard for network connectivity - assume cellular?

    • @LJ-jq8og
      @LJ-jq8og 2 месяца назад

      For myself I just might want to just put that money into more panels and power walls... BUT of course my application is NOT the application ROB is speaking too... It's easy for us to forget that !

  • @RobertMartin-s2v
    @RobertMartin-s2v 2 месяца назад +2

    They should probably use bi facial mods… that is what I see on new trackers here in the northeast…

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад

      Yup, we're using bifacials - provides as much as a 10% bump from reflection - snow cover in winter, in particular

  • @thesimplegig
    @thesimplegig Месяц назад

    Can it power a house?

  • @1964mcqueen
    @1964mcqueen 2 месяца назад +3

    A 6.4 kilowatt array with 4 charging stations will provide a peak charge of 1.6 kwh to each vehicle. That is under optimal conditions. My standard 120v, 15 amp outlet will beat that, providing consistent power day and night.
    This looks like a very expensive, very large, and overly complex system for very little energy in return.
    The cost to run the conduit, wires etc is likely about the same and will guarantee consistent power 24/7.
    Off grid is great when necessary, but not in the middle of a city, or anywhere that the grid can be accessed easily.

    • @WardenClyff
      @WardenClyff 2 месяца назад +3

      Not sure you had listened to the interview

    • @hoffinger
      @hoffinger Месяц назад

      15 amp outlet is rated at 1350 watts continuous. Which is 80% max

  • @machonco50
    @machonco50 2 месяца назад

    Would induction charging be an option

  • @CHMichael
    @CHMichael Месяц назад

    Just do angled covered parking. All that moving the solar cells is going to eat ip any profit with maintainability.
    .... and they need batteries.
    So what's your profit margins?

  • @MichaelSmith-td7op
    @MichaelSmith-td7op 2 месяца назад

    I wonder what a good gust of wind would do to that sail?

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 Месяц назад

      PE stamped to 115mph, and 45million hours of machine time around NH and VT over last 11 years, so built to handle - stows flat when senses gust above 20mph to minimize force/wear and tear

  • @darth_pronator
    @darth_pronator Месяц назад

    Basically no one drives more than the range of their EV in a single day in their work commute. If you charge at home, your EV battery is full every morning. There is zero value to these silly local chargers. The only thing chargers are needed for is long highway trips. But charging an EV is and likely always will be, far to slow to deal with on a long trip. These silly things are fine if you live an apartment and need a home charger. But sticking chargers in random places like shopping malls is just totally unneeded.

  • @fernvalleyinn9172
    @fernvalleyinn9172 2 месяца назад

    Great for a small hotel.

  • @pmacgowan
    @pmacgowan 2 месяца назад

    Does it dc ac or dc charging?

  • @KBHeal
    @KBHeal Месяц назад

    Would this survive a serious storm??? Have my doubts 🤔🤔

  • @dennisgale8383
    @dennisgale8383 2 месяца назад

    Why is solar installs in Australia half the cost of solar in America?

    • @Hojjiifp
      @Hojjiifp 2 месяца назад

      Because USA companies like to ripoff consumers.

  • @user-bi7nq4nj7q
    @user-bi7nq4nj7q 2 месяца назад

    i promise, this is not a 5 yr payback. after going through the math again this device would come out to no less than about $18K w/10kw battery pack to buffer the charging. Prove to us that it takes 5 years to pay off, SHOW US THE DATA

  • @hornethurdler
    @hornethurdler 2 месяца назад

    What are you doing with the unused energy? No battery to store when not being discharged? Storage!!!

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 Месяц назад

      Just need 1 EV plugged in use all the energy - shares dynamically between 4 chargers. Lots of analysis - cost/benefit of adding significant storage doesn't pencil out. 10kwh battery on board now

  • @anthonyballog8026
    @anthonyballog8026 2 месяца назад

    There will be many of the companies very soon. Here's why
    Fsd + bi-directional = Tesla owners getting paid for energy.

  • @andreschapero3615
    @andreschapero3615 2 месяца назад +1

    APTERA !

    • @LJ-jq8og
      @LJ-jq8og 2 месяца назад +1

      Get out of aptera while you can ! It’s another: fisker, Arcimoto, lucid or rivian, it WILL go bankrupt… Not an IF but a WHEN they go "under..."

  • @pete_dl1585
    @pete_dl1585 2 месяца назад +1

    oh dear. Trackers may have made sense when panels were very expensive. What is the cost comparison compared to a fixed solar canopy (which will also do a better job at keeping the cars cool) ?
    How densely can you space these trackers, so they don't shade each other ? Is it any denser than a fixed solar canopy ?
    Unfortunately, i suspect this company has been priced out of a business case by the ever dropping cost of panels. But please prove me wrong with some numbers.

  • @KBHeal
    @KBHeal Месяц назад

    Sure - until the whole parking lot goes up in flames 🤣🤣🤣
    How much is one of these systems???

  • @jedics1
    @jedics1 2 месяца назад

    DIrectly compare it to the cost of installing panels as roof cover of a parking lot, something simple that also keeps the rain and sun off people and your car. Given how cheap panels are I bet you can instal more panels that create more power for the same money. 40% is a big number if its true but if the sticker price is as well compared to fixed panels then its just another solution searching for a problem. Maybe you covered it after the 23 minutes where I got bored.

    • @robadams3664
      @robadams3664 2 месяца назад +1

      Big cost difference is that it's off-grid - so avoids hefty upfront installation cost, not to mention delay, of tying into grid. We install in a day. And 45 million machine hours to date validate 40% more power from full tracking sun. Truly clean energy - just sunshine, rather than grid-mix - is a solution that hits a real problem head on, as well.

    • @jedics1
      @jedics1 2 месяца назад

      @@robadams3664 But fixed panels in the form of over cover parking could also be installed in an off grid arrangement. I get you can deploy the Solaflect system quckly which would make sense in some cases but for a large car park for a hundred Ev's?

    • @LJ-jq8og
      @LJ-jq8og 2 месяца назад +1

      @@robadams3664 I think the "feedback" from these types of videos are a "goldmine" for you to PERFECT your product FAQ to demonstrate the unique benefits of your highly creative product... While it may not be perfect or practical for every application it is still an EXCELLENT 💪 application for many scenarios ! All of these good questions and comments will aid you in compassing where you go with this highly viable product ! Cant imagine how less-expensive and better the next generations will be too 💪... I can also see a portable trailer where over landers pull it behind them in a "folded up" format akin to a starlink...