For a reddit nerf, the shaffar change was handled delicately. Also any extra spellburst buffs will not go to waste until all minions in the hand already have the spellburst buff
For Protoss: -warpgate is terrible (cost 4 do nothing) => this card need an additional effect like drawing or something -immortal is horrible => maybe add rush is needed -carrier is fun but not enough impactful for his cost
@impkiller5932 depends on the draw really... keeping up the tempo by drawing and discounting the mana of your combo, like every rogue deck. Works great against classes that dont stack 50 armor. So basically terran warrior, shaman and protoss mage smacks you hard.
Warp Gate just needs an entirely new effect. Possibly related to generating random Protoss cards. Immortal needs some extra gas. Elusive maybe? Carrier's issue is the amount of board space it needs to do anything.... It could just "Summon 1 interceptor that attacks a random enemy and dies. 4 times" or something, so it only needs 1 extra board space to function. Templar being 5 mana instead of 6 would be fine. As you'd get them into Sonya range with the 2x Cannon + Artanis (Right now I'm having to use Tidepool Pupil to generate another Cannon to do that... Which is really slow and clunky and keeps getting f'd by Vipers)
Honest question. What are my options for dealing with Zerg DK? It just seems like they snowball out of control so fast. I know weapon rogue can do it. But that deck is so boring to me.
Hope they draw bad... it's a good deck, but only if you hit Infestor + combo card. There are so many situations you have an infestor, but nothing to set up a reborn or death growl spread, or just don't get an infestor. And "wasting" it by simply playing it on board with nothing of the sort...is kind of yikes
If the Saffar effect hits a minion in your hand that already has the buff, and then looks for another minion in your hand to put this on, it would sure be better than if, when the effect hits a minion in your hand that already has this buff, it fizzles.
Why? Not a single one of these nerfs affects any of the good decks that face zerg dk? I'll argue it will decrease zerg DK because decks that had good matchups against zerg dk but bad vs fizzle are going to increase in play rate, further decreasing zerg DK winrates.
I thought they might of dropped the cost of the protos card to 2 since with some classes it sits at 1 mana a lot, only being reduced from the cannon card
"Cards being reworked used to be very, very rare." Yes, @Zeddy ... because they USED to have a functional, intelligent, capable R&D team that didn't just churn out stupidly broken cards in piles after piles in every set. I imagine there's probably a bunch of cards they WANT to rework... but they'd have to more or less completely deconstruct each of the last dozen or so expansions to effectively do that.
No need to. 8th in Winrate deck. Shaman best deck in wild aswell. The reason that protoss is overshadowed is this. Dk with no infestor in hand is dead by turn 5.
Hs replay shows winrates across all ranks which is super inaccurate. Check on hsguru standard decks Diamond through legend. 10 shaman variations on top winrates about 60%. Dk barely hits 50 %.
I'm happy with the nerfs, but I'm afraid that Zerg Death Knight will overcome the meta pretty quickly. Overall Zerg decks will probably be so overpowered till bew expansion.
Also... a 3 mana 5/8 Brood Queen churning minions into your hand every turn until you manage to kill it means you have an endless supply of +3/+3 buffed minions... inlucding 1-mana 4/4 x2 Zerglings... Shaffar is STILL stupidly, ridiculously OP. It's going to go into Zerg DK and make an already out of control problem there even more toxic. Thanks for f((kin' nothing, Hearthstone.
Even if they nerfed Zerg/Terran, the card still has the potential to go infinite in Hunter. The “Once per game” cause is purely there so a player can’t have infinite resources, especially with cards like The Ceaseless Expanse.
I really like the changes, I wish the Death Knight Zerg Card [Infestor] will get nerfed. Once they start getting at least 1-2 aura buffs. It feels like it isnt even worth doing the match.
Thank goodness the people in the comments aren't responsible for nerfs/buffs. So confidently wrong I can't believe it. The nerfs are good, could've probably included some additional things but zerg DK is NOT the problem believe it or not.
THANK YOU! Zerg DK is literally a noob muncher. Only noobs and greedy players feels like zerg Dk is a meta tyrant. I don't have a more gentle way to say it.
@@KaiteWDreyInstead of talking out of your ass, check the highest winrate decks in legend on hsreplay, dk zerg is right there. The ,,noob muncher" is also being played by noobs on those ranks, but in high elo, where everyone can play properly, most of the time you get your ass handed to you by a zerg dk just because how overtuned the deck is, youre winning by force, just by raw stats.
I'm sad to see infinite shaman go away... infinite ceaseless was one of the only consistent ways to deal with Zerg DK once they get like 4+ buffs from infester
I think the Void Ray buff will help a bit to help it stick I guess? Mainly when it's buffed with it's +2/+2. 5/4 gets it out of range of a lot of cheap removal, since a lot of cheap single-target removal tools do 3 damage. Meaning that it doesn't get killed for free as much after you pop its divine shield, which is usually what you do given that it has rush. I don't think it really fixes Protoss at all though. Guess they're just being touchy with buffs/nerfs since it may be better after the rotation? Who knows.
These changes hurt Warrior's lategame quite a bit, Shaman has non fizzle builds whereas warrior does not really. And if Zerg DK returns to the meta then warrior is cooked.
Such a joke … They Need to Need nerf infestor so urgently… It has such a stupid mechanic. You cant kill buffed zerg with the windfury weapon! Thats just bullshit and bug for me
"rework" they just killed the cards, barely saw any play only in toxic combos or greedy as decks. Fizzle literally wasnt a real card until Triangulate (card that also carried meteor decks) came into existance, like at least reduce costs by 1 or give them premiun stats. Bad nerfs that made a gimicky card that didnt see play out of those gimmicks just to make it downright umplayable. Ps: i HATED those infinite decks but the nerfs are just tony level bad, just kill the card so it doesnt see play ever again.
I hear people enjoy the meta, but everytime i play i either face warrior who destroys 3 cards in my hand and 6 in my deck, or hunter does something stupid with griftha, like i took 30 damge from the griftah spell in one game today. Neither of these things seem particularly fun to me
I'm sorry man... but this is the state of the meta. The meta IS balanced, all the top decks have a good match up chart and there's rock-paper-scissor style diagram for them. But you are ALSO correct, just caused it's balanced doesn't mean it's particularly fun. I don't find it fun either but I think it's pretty undeniable overall the meta is balanced.... sadly.
Zerg is tier 2 at best and will only face more and more opposition as control deck won't get stomped out of the meta by Terrian Shaman anymore. Zerg is only a problem if you're an inexperienced player a playing at lower ranks. Once you get a good understanding of the decks weaknesses you realise how highrolly and draw dependent Zerg DK actually is. If Zerg don't draw we'll they are nothing more then a slow shitty midrange.
@@KaiteWDrey Not everyone wants to play the best most optimal deck, most people have their favorite class archetype etc. and don´t just want to play something that counters/ defeats zergs. Infestor is a problem because you can´t counter it, you can´t silence. It feels bizarre, wrong even a deathrattle aura that can´t ever be removed, no room for counterplay at all, if you don´t plan on not playing minions they can rush into. You can know on turn 4 even as a control deck with 99 % certainty you have lost. Lover rank players/inexperienced players opinion are just as valid as high level experienced players, some people don´t plan to be more then very loosely attached to the game and remain on silver and that´s fine the game is for everyone in equal measure. A low level players experience is just as valuable and valid as yours. The game would go under if it would be a miserable experience for everyone on bronze, gold and silver and they would disseapear.
@@Sadsfattis i am a control player and i can testify. Zerg sucks. People say zerg its mid tier. They are wrong. It evens looks like a way of making themselves feels good and better them everyone. "Only low ranks lose to it". Bruh. Really? Hearthstone community its bizarre
I don’t play StarCraft so if anyone can answer: is it at least thematically correct for Zerg and Terran to just be better factions to play than Protoss?
Shhhh! You can't ask a question like that in here. You trying to start a rumble? watch?v=RxhG2OnRfLY But in all seriousness, each person has their favourite faction, and they will fight to the grave over who tramples over who.
No, there is no thematic reason for protoss to be weaker than the other two Either lore wise or the balance of StarCraft, protoss still regularly compete in competitive tournament's. Its purely a case of a classic blizzard moment of "Oops, we made a bunch of cool things that we thought were balanced with each other and completely missed one of them is an outlier because we were distracted by shiny"
If you think infestor is a problem you're just a noob. Zerg dk feels like a meta tyrant only to noobs and greedy players. It's slow clunky and if it doesn't draw perfectly it's a very very suboptimal midrange deck. Just cause you keep getting highrolled cause you don't put up enough pressure to force the zerg player to make suboptimal plays doesn't mean the deck it's broken. It means you don't know how to play against it. Zerg literally can't heal. Play weapon rogue or hero power druid if you have so many problems with it and I guarantee you you'll have a 70%+ winrate against it.
@victorquintana2095 I mean it, weapon rogue is like... cheap as hell and can be VERY effective against Zerg specifically. Hero power Druid is more expensive but it has good match up against more deck in the meta. Good luck and try find alternatives, sometimes things aren't as bad as they seem.
If infestor caused you to uninstall this ain't the game for you buddy, I'm sorry to be this rude but Zerg DK is such an highrolly and draw depended deck it's tier 2 at best. And will face more and more opposition as control deck can finally breath a sigh of relief not getting stomped by infinite shaman anymore. Zerg DK is literally a noobs nightmare but if you spend even the smallest amount of time to understand it you realise how many weaknesses it has. It needs to get going early, it's slow, it's very weak to direct damage as it doesn't have neither taunts nor healing, having so many cards dedicated to the infestor combo it often draws very very poorly and even with decent draws it can ran out of juice very quickly if forced to push to stand its ground. Zerg DK is a deck that punishes only noobs and greedy players, plain as that.
I’m honestly a lil bit sad that they muredred all other “infinite” fizzles because of Shaman… I genuinely believe that all other classes fizzle combo was fine… as in order to go infinite they had to spend 8 mana every round… and in addition there was always a single copy of Snapshot at any given moment, which was easier to disrupt…
They didn't kill the cards lmao those were the best possible nerfs they could have done. Why should Fizzle's snapshots go off 10 times per game? Why should Shaffar snowball into +60/+60 of stats in the first 5 turns of the game? Like what?
Fizzle could’ve been wayyyy worse, they could’ve changed it too take a snapshot and shuffle a copy of each card into your deck, which would’ve been way worse. Now it works as it was intended, to be a single value card.
I was back to hs because aggro isnt rule the meta,now i will leave again.a game which special in infinite possibility killing most of its possibility is truly insane,no wonder this game is declined as shit
Infinite snapshots wasn't Infinite possibility, it was the same shit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. It was simply DUMB same with infinite Shaafar
For a reddit nerf, the shaffar change was handled delicately. Also any extra spellburst buffs will not go to waste until all minions in the hand already have the spellburst buff
It should be playable on hunter again? Though it will hardly compete with Zerg DK
Let me put it this way, this is just a worse version of “your minions have +3/+3 for the rest of the game”, and it is no where close to Zerg DK.
For Protoss:
-warpgate is terrible (cost 4 do nothing) => this card need an additional effect like drawing or something
-immortal is horrible => maybe add rush is needed
-carrier is fun but not enough impactful for his cost
What about Archons? Are they good?
@impkiller5932 depends on the draw really... keeping up the tempo by drawing and discounting the mana of your combo, like every rogue deck. Works great against classes that dont stack 50 armor. So basically terran warrior, shaman and protoss mage smacks you hard.
Warp Gate just needs an entirely new effect. Possibly related to generating random Protoss cards.
Immortal needs some extra gas. Elusive maybe?
Carrier's issue is the amount of board space it needs to do anything.... It could just "Summon 1 interceptor that attacks a random enemy and dies. 4 times" or something, so it only needs 1 extra board space to function.
Templar being 5 mana instead of 6 would be fine. As you'd get them into Sonya range with the 2x Cannon + Artanis (Right now I'm having to use Tidepool Pupil to generate another Cannon to do that... Which is really slow and clunky and keeps getting f'd by Vipers)
@@tarille1043 yeah I agree :
=> for immortal maybe give him elusive instead of divine shield or rush instead of taunt could be the buff he need
Honest question. What are my options for dealing with Zerg DK? It just seems like they snowball out of control so fast.
I know weapon rogue can do it. But that deck is so boring to me.
Hope they draw bad... it's a good deck, but only if you hit Infestor + combo card. There are so many situations you have an infestor, but nothing to set up a reborn or death growl spread, or just don't get an infestor. And "wasting" it by simply playing it on board with nothing of the sort...is kind of yikes
Good nerfs. Now they're working as initially intended. No more exploits.
The death of infinite terran shaman. Almost reminds me of Galakrond Shaman back in the day, but with less midrange and more grind vs warrior
If the Saffar effect hits a minion in your hand that already has the buff, and then looks for another minion in your hand to put this on, it would sure be better than if, when the effect hits a minion in your hand that already has this buff, it fizzles.
As much I enjoyed infinite Terran Shaman, it was indeed a toxic mechanic. Glad it's gone.
I was thinking maybe give elusive to the Immortal? At least then you have to use minions or minion abilities to remove it.
DK Zerg Meta....we welcome you!!!!! Instead of facing DKs in 7/10 games, it will be 9/10...hell yeah.
Why? Not a single one of these nerfs affects any of the good decks that face zerg dk? I'll argue it will decrease zerg DK because decks that had good matchups against zerg dk but bad vs fizzle are going to increase in play rate, further decreasing zerg DK winrates.
Where you at!?!? I face only shamans! This is shamanstone at this point! Zerg DK only works on noobs at low ranks.
@@taserrrI mean just like in most cases, people will learn to counter the strongest decks with something else.
See all the zerg dk replies rationalizing their stupid deck.
Easy fix: get out of bronze lol
Oh thank god no Kerrigan in arena. I literally have faced decks with her the last six games.
Now if only they would do something about arena cheaters.
Feels like the Terran starship piece that deal 5 damage shouldn’t be able to go face. That’s about it for Terran nerfs for me.
Liberator for me
I welcome the return of Prince. I've seen way too many Weapon Rogue / HP druid
I thought they might of dropped the cost of the protos card to 2 since with some classes it sits at 1 mana a lot, only being reduced from the cannon card
"Cards being reworked used to be very, very rare."
Yes, @Zeddy ... because they USED to have a functional, intelligent, capable R&D team that didn't just churn out stupidly broken cards in piles after piles in every set.
I imagine there's probably a bunch of cards they WANT to rework... but they'd have to more or less completely deconstruct each of the last dozen or so expansions to effectively do that.
Yeah, they used to rarely change cards either because there was much less BUH-ROKEN garbage being thrown out to boot...
They must learn that balance comes before flavor. Shafar is still usable, problaby in hunter and rogue.
Nohands posted two one hour games showing infinite fizzle decks where both sides went infinite. Glad this puts an end to that!
Unbelievable no nerf to zerg DK?!
No need to. 8th in Winrate deck. Shaman best deck in wild aswell. The reason that protoss is overshadowed is this. Dk with no infestor in hand is dead by turn 5.
decklist, please
it's really not that broken
@@georgebablas1431 must have been unlucky than cause all the DK's i face have the infesor combo in opening hand. Also hr replay says 4th best deck.
Hs replay shows winrates across all ranks which is super inaccurate. Check on hsguru standard decks Diamond through legend. 10 shaman variations on top winrates about 60%. Dk barely hits 50 %.
Shaffar feels a little overkill now, but after rotation probably feels right. Just really need something that can outsprint Swarm Shaman tbh
The patch puns are on point this time. Great work team.
I'd like to see Elusive added to that Infester card.
Nah, it would stop Deafen/Hex and Yodeller could still double it's DR.
You know, I thought Shaffar's effect could not stack from the very beginning.
Guess I'm wrong this whole time.
Terran Shaman can't go infinite anymore - Yeah... um, -Fizzle, +Kil'Jaedan - infinite powerup returned.
Landing shaffar on zerglings might be still ok... 1 mana 8/8 in stats...
Any chance the patch notes are done by R. Hat?
I'm happy with the nerfs, but I'm afraid that Zerg Death Knight will overcome the meta pretty quickly. Overall Zerg decks will probably be so overpowered till bew expansion.
Can you buff the carrier and immortal? For Druid it’s stale playing dungar. Hero power is okay but gets boring and doesn’t really feel like “Druid”
Do you think libram paladin should be nerfed in wild?
What?!
The infinite chaman deck is nerfed but the flood is rampant, fck your priorities blizzard
Also... a 3 mana 5/8 Brood Queen churning minions into your hand every turn until you manage to kill it means you have an endless supply of +3/+3 buffed minions... inlucding 1-mana 4/4 x2 Zerglings... Shaffar is STILL stupidly, ridiculously OP.
It's going to go into Zerg DK and make an already out of control problem there even more toxic.
Thanks for f((kin' nothing, Hearthstone.
It's joever warrior bros
Shaman has a higher tempo non fizzle build, warrior relied on fizzle much more
ur terrible at the game if this is not sarcasm. u can triple bomboss and beat anyone late game
Bad balance patch. Fizzle is fun and shouldn’t have been changed, and Zerg/Terran are way too powercrept. Why weren’t they nerfed?
Terran is nerfed with the fizzle fix. No more infinite Jims.
@ maybe change jim instead?
Even if they nerfed Zerg/Terran, the card still has the potential to go infinite in Hunter. The “Once per game” cause is purely there so a player can’t have infinite resources, especially with cards like The Ceaseless Expanse.
Pun patch notes are great.
Praise GOD these changes are great............. But what about Dungar?
Good nerf! Thx blizz
Doing a nerf round and not touching Dungar is just criminal. You should have just banned Dungar if they didn't want to rework it.
Good reworks. 😊 Now, what will happens to the Meta? Stay tune and find out... 😅
I really like the changes, I wish the Death Knight Zerg Card [Infestor] will get nerfed. Once they start getting at least 1-2 aura buffs. It feels like it isnt even worth doing the match.
how about running silence/frog/removal? :)
@snakejazzenjoyer how can you do it if you're playing paladin? Hunter? Demon hunter? Mage? Warrior?
Yes that is broken and it's kinda infinite infestor by brood queens
Thanks for the update
massive buff its hilarious
Devs making Dad Jokes in their patch notes is on message for a game that is almost entirely a joke at this point...
Earthern scales nerf killed linecracker druid in wild
Thank goodness the people in the comments aren't responsible for nerfs/buffs. So confidently wrong I can't believe it. The nerfs are good, could've probably included some additional things but zerg DK is NOT the problem believe it or not.
THANK YOU! Zerg DK is literally a noob muncher. Only noobs and greedy players feels like zerg Dk is a meta tyrant. I don't have a more gentle way to say it.
@@KaiteWDreyInstead of talking out of your ass, check the highest winrate decks in legend on hsreplay, dk zerg is right there. The ,,noob muncher" is also being played by noobs on those ranks, but in high elo, where everyone can play properly, most of the time you get your ass handed to you by a zerg dk just because how overtuned the deck is, youre winning by force, just by raw stats.
I hope they nerf Death Knight Zerg. The +1/+1 bonus overriding reborn is very annoying. And it's flooding ladder.
Soooo no more 3x 36/36 rogue cards on turn 5? Neat
Shaffar still works with buccaneer/ zergling, can see zerg dk playing it when all the death rattle stuff rotates
It wouldn't be bad for that extra +3/+3 on everybody but it might be too slow with needing a spell between each one
I'm sad to see infinite shaman go away... infinite ceaseless was one of the only consistent ways to deal with Zerg DK once they get like 4+ buffs from infester
Just depend on RNG and try to out pace ppl will cry about another deck shortly don’t worry.
Shaffar and Fizzle are dead... I generally don't dust legendaries but I might in this case if I have either of them.
What happens if you steal the opponents fizzle deck
You use theirs and your own would be useless
I think the Void Ray buff will help a bit to help it stick I guess? Mainly when it's buffed with it's +2/+2. 5/4 gets it out of range of a lot of cheap removal, since a lot of cheap single-target removal tools do 3 damage. Meaning that it doesn't get killed for free as much after you pop its divine shield, which is usually what you do given that it has rush.
I don't think it really fixes Protoss at all though. Guess they're just being touchy with buffs/nerfs since it may be better after the rotation? Who knows.
They made mistake again infester should nerf or at least it shouldn't play by brood queen
Shitterwock is WAY worse than demon seed imo
I was doing Shudderwok fizzle hostage shaman in Wild and got top 1000. It was delicious. Sad to see fizzle go.
You still can do it with that 2/2 minion that shuffles a copy of a minion into your deck
it looks like I'm back to warrior for another month
These changes hurt Warrior's lategame quite a bit, Shaman has non fizzle builds whereas warrior does not really. And if Zerg DK returns to the meta then warrior is cooked.
I will drop fizzle by this point in warrior. Can change it with more instant value now.
RipBozo you will not be missed
Such a joke … They Need to Need nerf infestor so urgently…
It has such a stupid mechanic. You cant kill buffed zerg with the windfury weapon! Thats just bullshit and bug for me
"rework" they just killed the cards, barely saw any play only in toxic combos or greedy as decks. Fizzle literally wasnt a real card until Triangulate (card that also carried meteor decks) came into existance, like at least reduce costs by 1 or give them premiun stats. Bad nerfs that made a gimicky card that didnt see play out of those gimmicks just to make it downright umplayable.
Ps: i HATED those infinite decks but the nerfs are just tony level bad, just kill the card so it doesnt see play ever again.
I came back after 2 months hoping the mini set is good meta wise. it is terrible af. the game wont change i guess
Fizzle is destroyed...😢
wow crazy buff
I hear people enjoy the meta, but everytime i play i either face warrior who destroys 3 cards in my hand and 6 in my deck, or hunter does something stupid with griftha, like i took 30 damge from the griftah spell in one game today. Neither of these things seem particularly fun to me
Yeah hearthstone jumped the shark years ago, it's a shame they handled Twist so incredibly incompetently as that could've been a great remedy
I'm sorry man... but this is the state of the meta. The meta IS balanced, all the top decks have a good match up chart and there's rock-paper-scissor style diagram for them. But you are ALSO correct, just caused it's balanced doesn't mean it's particularly fun. I don't find it fun either but I think it's pretty undeniable overall the meta is balanced.... sadly.
No nerf to Zerg its INSANE!!!!!
Zerg is tier 2 at best and will only face more and more opposition as control deck won't get stomped out of the meta by Terrian Shaman anymore. Zerg is only a problem if you're an inexperienced player a playing at lower ranks. Once you get a good understanding of the decks weaknesses you realise how highrolly and draw dependent Zerg DK actually is. If Zerg don't draw we'll they are nothing more then a slow shitty midrange.
@@KaiteWDrey Not everyone wants to play the best most optimal deck, most people have their favorite class archetype etc. and don´t just want to play something that counters/ defeats zergs. Infestor is a problem because you can´t counter it, you can´t silence. It feels bizarre, wrong even a deathrattle aura that can´t ever be removed, no room for counterplay at all, if you don´t plan on not playing minions they can rush into. You can know on turn 4 even as a control deck with 99 % certainty you have lost. Lover rank players/inexperienced players opinion are just as valid as high level experienced players, some people don´t plan to be more then very loosely attached to the game and remain on silver and that´s fine the game is for everyone in equal measure. A low level players experience is just as valuable and valid as yours. The game would go under if it would be a miserable experience for everyone on bronze, gold and silver and they would disseapear.
@@Sadsfattis i am a control player and i can testify. Zerg sucks. People say zerg its mid tier. They are wrong. It evens looks like a way of making themselves feels good and better them everyone. "Only low ranks lose to it". Bruh. Really? Hearthstone community its bizarre
@@KaiteWDreystfu aggro player you write this comment everywhere it's like you just can win with aggro 😂
I don’t play StarCraft so if anyone can answer: is it at least thematically correct for Zerg and Terran to just be better factions to play than Protoss?
Shhhh! You can't ask a question like that in here. You trying to start a rumble?
watch?v=RxhG2OnRfLY
But in all seriousness, each person has their favourite faction, and they will fight to the grave over who tramples over who.
No
Protoss are the weakest in sc2
No, there is no thematic reason for protoss to be weaker than the other two
Either lore wise or the balance of StarCraft, protoss still regularly compete in competitive tournament's.
Its purely a case of a classic blizzard moment of "Oops, we made a bunch of cool things that we thought were balanced with each other and completely missed one of them is an outlier because we were distracted by shiny"
Protoss is best faction in sc2 because of shield minions have it's like double health
The Ceaseless Expanse shouldn't be able to be captured by picture from a camera😅
I mean... from a lore standpoint you are 1000% correct.... but.... that's doesn't make it work mechanics wise.
Funny thing is all you guys had to do was play a counter spell to stop fizzle but no ppl rather cry than use your 🧠 😂
Good nerf!
Demon seed is not even close in toxicity to any hearthstone card.
yes free dust!
Infestor is totally fine. I hate this game. lol
If you think infestor is a problem you're just a noob. Zerg dk feels like a meta tyrant only to noobs and greedy players. It's slow clunky and if it doesn't draw perfectly it's a very very suboptimal midrange deck. Just cause you keep getting highrolled cause you don't put up enough pressure to force the zerg player to make suboptimal plays doesn't mean the deck it's broken. It means you don't know how to play against it. Zerg literally can't heal. Play weapon rogue or hero power druid if you have so many problems with it and I guarantee you you'll have a 70%+ winrate against it.
@@KaiteWDrey ok
@victorquintana2095 I mean it, weapon rogue is like... cheap as hell and can be VERY effective against Zerg specifically. Hero power Druid is more expensive but it has good match up against more deck in the meta. Good luck and try find alternatives, sometimes things aren't as bad as they seem.
Really like the fizzle rework, they kept the card working as intended but killed the infinite strat. Approved.
squid game
Why no infestor nerf. Uninstalling 🎉 thanks goodness
If infestor caused you to uninstall this ain't the game for you buddy, I'm sorry to be this rude but Zerg DK is such an highrolly and draw depended deck it's tier 2 at best. And will face more and more opposition as control deck can finally breath a sigh of relief not getting stomped by infinite shaman anymore. Zerg DK is literally a noobs nightmare but if you spend even the smallest amount of time to understand it you realise how many weaknesses it has. It needs to get going early, it's slow, it's very weak to direct damage as it doesn't have neither taunts nor healing, having so many cards dedicated to the infestor combo it often draws very very poorly and even with decent draws it can ran out of juice very quickly if forced to push to stand its ground. Zerg DK is a deck that punishes only noobs and greedy players, plain as that.
Finally…
All infinite crap finally done
Thank god they fixed fizzle. Infinite games suck 👎
🎉🎉🎉
Should've nerfed dk, druid and shaman
I’m honestly a lil bit sad that they muredred all other “infinite” fizzles because of Shaman… I genuinely believe that all other classes fizzle combo was fine… as in order to go infinite they had to spend 8 mana every round… and in addition there was always a single copy of Snapshot at any given moment, which was easier to disrupt…
what in gods name are these "reworks" bro they killed the cards
Tf are you talking about they work exactly the same as before you just can't exploit them to go infinite in specific decks
They didn't kill the cards lmao those were the best possible nerfs they could have done. Why should Fizzle's snapshots go off 10 times per game? Why should Shaffar snowball into +60/+60 of stats in the first 5 turns of the game? Like what?
Good
Fizzle could’ve been wayyyy worse, they could’ve changed it too take a snapshot and shuffle a copy of each card into your deck, which would’ve been way worse. Now it works as it was intended, to be a single value card.
If by killed you mean they made them more closely align and resemble the intended original design they planed for the card then yes! You're right
I was back to hs because aggro isnt rule the meta,now i will leave again.a game which special in infinite possibility killing most of its possibility is truly insane,no wonder this game is declined as shit
Infinite snapshots wasn't Infinite possibility, it was the same shit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. It was simply DUMB same with infinite Shaafar
Everyone just play froghexshaman