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Shimano Sora R3000 shifters with a Deore M592 rear derailleur. 1x road conversion with MTB rear mech
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- Опубликовано: 11 май 2019
- Shimano Sora R3000 2x9 shifters.
Shimano Deore M592 rear derailleur shadow long cage.
Shimano CS-HG400 11-36t 9 speed cassette.
Shimano CN-HG53 9 speed chain.
Shimano 105 110BCD compact chainset - with chainrings removed.
42T Superstarcomponents narrow wide chain ring (mounted on inner chainring).
Thank you so much for the tip about the cable! I was about to throw my bike in the trash…could NOT get it to shift cleanly on both ends…just like you said…until I rerouted the cable. 3 years later and this vid helped me!!Thanks again!
Great advice about cable into the derailleur groove! Thanks to that I`ve done my conversion setup in 20 mins, shifts perfectly: used Shimano 105 5700 2x10 shifters, XT 10sp cassette, SLX 9 speed derailleur (old, pre-dynasys)
Big smile on my face when this Frankenstein worked as expected :)
Thanks I didn’t know that I would need an inline adjuster because it isn’t threaded for the ‘normal’ one. You pushed me in the right direction!
Good job 👍
Nice...👍
GRX is expensive. An Olivio nine speed rear derailleur with Sora levers and an Altus two chainring front derailleur should work.
You see very few bikes with full groupsets anymore so mixing and matching is fine...👍
Yes you can fit a 11-40 tooth cassette I done it with the exact derielleur
Nice conversion. It was great with 9 speeds that one could mix road and mtb parts. Too bad Shimano stopped supporting it with the 10 and 11 speeds.
So one could use the now available sora 3x9 shifters on mtb/trekking front and back derailleurs?
Just wondering because I would like to change the handlebar on my trekking bike for a road one,
then I need to change the shifters too. So far have no info that can be done.
@@willemrm4033 yes to my understanding the Sora 9-speed shifter and derailleur are compatible with any other Shimano 9 speed (road or mountain) parts. I do not know on the front mech, but Sora is easy in such a way that it actually provides both road and MTB 9 and 3 speed shifters. blog.artscyclery.com/science-behind-the-magic/science-behind-the-magic-drivetrain-compatibility/ here is the only exception to this and some more explanations www.bikeradar.com/advice/buyers-guides/a-complete-guide-to-rear-derailleurs/#:~:text=Shimano%20derailleur%20compatibility,road%20shifters%20or%20vice%20versa. "Shimano derailleur compatibility
Most 8- and 9-speed Shimano mountain bike and road kit is inter-compatible because they both use the same cable pull ratio. This means that you can use an 8 -or 9-speed mountain bike derailleur with road shifters or vice versa.
The only exception is pre-1997 9-speed Dura-Ace gearing, which won’t play nicely with anything because it uses a totally different cable pull ratio. "
@@innocentiuslacrim2290 Thanks very much, front derailleur would have to remain an MTB one I suppose, as the Sora - or the 105 - triple one are meant for 50-39-30 blades if i'm right. that must be rather problematic on the 44-32-22 Alivio T4010 cranks. If i decide to go through with it and things work out fine , i'll let you know.
S9 can i use Alivio rd with sora shifters (sti)
men id like to know too, if sora sti shifter will work with alivio rd? planning to convert my straight hb to dropbar
Is it possible if shimano altus rear deraillure with sora?
The Deore has a long cage, it will handle well up to 40t, perhaps even 42 if you realy tighten the B screw
I already tried it with 42t. But you need to replace the B screw with a longer one
What about tiagra 2x9speed with xtr m970 rd & fd.. it will work with tiagra? Thank for replying
I know this is old but would a 2x cranket work with this? Specifically Shimano mt210 with Sora r3000 front derailleur
Is my tiagra 4600 shifter compatible with alivio or acera rd? can't seem to tune my short cage 4700 rd correctly, I'm on 11-28t cogs. highly appreciated if you'll answer back hehe
Don't think so, pull ratios are probably different
I have converted my mtb from 3*9 to a 1*9, however my old RD is giving me headaches. Should I buy something like SORA RD to use it with 11-28 cassette?
Would stick with an mtb derailleur on mtb personally. Derailleurs don't often go wrong, they tend to just move as much as lever tells them to. Might be something other than derailleur causing issues
Hi, I have an option to buy road bike with a 9 speed Deore LX RD (no FD) with a flat bar. Can I replace that flat bar with integrated brake/shifter system that will work with Deore LX RD, and is the road bike with deore lx rd a good buy at all? Thx
I think all MTB and road 9 speed can mix and match. No idea if the road bike is a good buy or not. Not many road bikes tend to come with Deore kit, flat bar and 1x.
What does running the shifter cable over the top of the screw do to resolve the indexing issue? Very strange. Just curious as I'm about to do this conversion myself. Thanks!
I'm not sure of the technicalities behind why but it is the difference between indexing correctly or not.
Try both ways when you try the conversion. See if you can get indexing correct with routing as per instructions. I couldn't!
@@user-bi9tn4mz8i thanks for the response and for putting the video up!
@@kwengca 👍 let me know how you get on with your set up
looks like the angle has changed slightly, and due to that it's pulling on the derailleur just slightly more for each click of the shifter.
Today I was doing a pretty similar conversion (9s road shifter but Alivio 9s hanger). Shifting was good on the highest cogs but I struggled to tune correcly the shifting between the two smallest until I saw your video. Routing the cable the way you did solved the problem for le too. Thank you!
Plus 😊
Can i use my sora shifter for tiagra rd + 10 speed cassette?
I don't think so, I think the pull ratio is different
Gotta do the same thing. How is the spring tension on the RD? My Sora RD tension is not good. Keep dropping chain in front even with a WolfTooth NW.
Thank you
I've never dropped a chain. I'm not sure if that's down to the spring tension, chainring or combination of both
is sensah ignite and shimano alivio compatiblr with a 1x9 or 2x9 set up?
sorry, no idea. not used sensah kit before.
Hi. I have 1x11 speed deore groupset and planning to make it 2x 11. Will it work if I replace just the shifters with shimano 105 2x11 but the rear derailleur would still be deore. Sorry for bad English.
I think no dude.. You can only mix road and MTB groupsets 9speed and below. 10 speed up have different pull ration for RD.
It will not work
i have deore m4120 which is 2×10/2×11 speed will it work in sti? @@zykoncito
Hi. I have a 10 speed 105 sti will it work with shimano deore 10 speed derailler?
From memory, I think a 9 speed mtb rear derailleur will work with 10 speed road shifters. Not 100% sure mind you.
Can i use a altus rd with a non shimano shifters on a roadbike? 8 speed.
sensah has an 8 speed shifter
Bro how about in 8speed can i Use altus or Acera as a Rear derailleur and my Road shifter is SENSAH REFLEX ?
sorry, no idea. not used sensah kit before.
will work bro
why u use Deore 9 speed instead of Sora 9 speed rear derailleur? any particular reason? i thought MTB drivetrain wont work with road brifter....
It's more robust (more aluminium parts rather than plastic) and it accommodates a larger cassette. 9 speed road and MTB work fine together.
@@user-bi9tn4mz8i in case i got a Deore 10 speed RD.. so do you think it works fine with Tiagra 10 speed brifter then? curious about it..but never tried any steps.
@@EasyTigerSaurus No. I think road and MTB 10 speed cannot be mixed.
@@user-bi9tn4mz8i use 9 speed MTB rear derailleur instead
Is it more smoother than the m3100 alivio?
Does it works with 11-40t or 11-42t cassette?
36t is the maximum size listed on the specification so I wouldn't try going any bigger
I'm about to do this one on my bike. Can you give me a list of alternative components if I'm only on a nine speed shifter.
Thanks and Great Video!
I think road and MTB Shimano shifters are all interchangeable. I can't give you a definitive list though I'm sorry
@@user-bi9tn4mz8i Thank you Bro!
Striving Simon did you work if they road and MTB can mix and match ?
@@stuartcareless9550 haven't finished my project yet. However, It works for my friend's gravel bike. He's using shimano sora sti with an alivio rear mech.
Hi 105 road shifters r7000 work with 11speed deore m5100 derailleur and cassette 11-46/11-50?
I'm not sure about 11 speed but am tempted to say it wouldn't work as the pull ratios are different.
Anything with 11 ranging to 50 is going to be a stretch; you'd be better off dropping the front chainring size and getting an 11-40 cassette or something.
You may have to look into the roadlink from wolftooth (or similar),
Good luck with your build.
@@user-bi9tn4mz8i thx
Hi Phil! Did it work? I am doing something similar
@@ruzainihashwam7985 i bought sensah team pro 11s instead of 105 and cassette on 11-28 11s (11-46/11-51 works too), its work fine with rd 5100
@@philschneider4840 thanx!
Sir, Hello. I'm Paulo from Philippines 🇵🇭
I just wanna ask about tuning a Deore RD-M592 9 Speed Derailleur.
My Hub is Shimano MT-200 Non-series and the Cogs I use is Shimano HG400
I'm having hard time on tuning it.
Did you run the cable the way stated in the manual or the way I've shown in the video?
I ride a Mountain Bike
@@Yuhouo in which case, you should run the cable as specified in the manual and ignore the routing shown in my video... Assuming you are using MTB shifters. What shifter are you using?
@@user-bi9tn4mz8i I use Shimano Alivio 9 speed combo shifters
@@Yuhouo ruclips.net/video/anZIgnxpCbw/видео.html probably worth checking out
Can i use tiagra cogs in my mtb ?
I think you can. But you need to replace your shifter with tiagra shifter (flatbar shifter)
Is it possible to make sora + deore x9 11-36 with crankset 26/36?
I don't see why not (I've never tried personally so can't guarantee it). Try it and post your findings
@@user-bi9tn4mz8i sure. I wanna make a gravel/bikepack for mountains
@@andredo4880 I've since moved this setup over to a gravel build. Kept with a 42t front chainring using 650b wheels. I think 650b give a lower gearing over 700c. I also have a 36t front chainring in the drawer as an option (not needed to use yet though). Depends on the terrain I guess. Prefer 1x on gravel personally.
@@user-bi9tn4mz8i bikepacking means +15/20 kg. I usually make about 1800 metres up during a 100 kms ride. I got trek domane but 1:1 ratio is too much for such hills. I also like 1x but i think for bikepacking 2x9 would be better
How did you convert the left shifter to 1x?
Just take the gear cable out and use it as a brake lever
@@user-bi9tn4mz8i does it has lock screw so i cant shift the lever for brake only?
@@bryanp5979 I don't think so. The lever still moves if you try to shift up or down but there's obviously nothing to shift
@@user-bi9tn4mz8i appreciate your reply
I've been fighting my Sora st-3500 shifters with an m592 deore derailleur and if this little trick fixes it I will lose my mind
Update: It totally worked! Dude thank you so much!
Does M592 rear derailluer has barrel adjuster ?
No, but you can buy them for a few £. Jagwire make them
@@user-bi9tn4mz8i thanks. So we can add a barrel adjuster at the rear derailleur m592 correct ? And how is the gear shifting with m592 is it harder to shift since this meant for mtb or smooth?
@@vishalkarna3763 you can add an in-line jagwire barrel adjuster. I don't know how it compares to MTB shifters, sorry
@@user-bi9tn4mz8i thank you for your response. One additional query, after you installed M592 derailluer, when you have to remove the rear tire, do you have to remove M592 derailluer as well ?
I know this an old video but I literally can't find any help anywhere. When in the highest gear, mine hits the chain stay. The chain also rubs the metal tab between the guide wheels. It's replacing a Shimano Altus 8-speed rd. Can anyone suggest what's going on that I'm not seeing? Thanks
It may be worth checking you've run the chain the correct side of the tab in the cage - I think it should run behind the tab rather than in front
@@user-bi9tn4mz8i Thanks for the reply.👍
Do you mean running above it rather than beneath it as I have it currently?
@@mrmurder75 yes, run above 👍
@@user-bi9tn4mz8i Thank you, I'll try that. Appreciate the help 👍
Yes you can fit a 11-40 tooth cassette I done it with the exact derielleur