Looks nice and green in central Montana. The sound of the meadowlark in the background reminded me of my time in similar country. I agree with the prior comment about the Lock Picking Lawyer.
I got the gold standard Hip lock ! Around waist 10 mm chain with 12 mm buckle padded cover reflective ! when worn around waist it is not locked ! You feel no weight ! 2.8kilo ! Plus Kryptonite cable and d lock front alarm disk lock ! My E bike $12,000 ! Thank you All with me !
We met a couple that had their bikes stolen off the back of their camper which they had locked up . The thefts cut them the cables they had attached. They bought new ones and said they put them inside and put an alarm along with cameras so they can see if anyone is breaking into the camper..I thought that was a good idea. I wished them luck.
Thanks for the suggestions. Like you said, most things are just a deterrent. Just things to make it more difficult or time consuming for a thief. Hopefully they move on to something easier. Golf carts are a common item stolen in my area. I installed a hidden rocker switch between the battery and ignition
Good video Gonagain, and for me leaving an expensive e-bike anywhere with locks or not will not happen, and when not in use it is locked in my garage. Many people think Canada is full of nice law abiding people, think again from one who knows, from the car jacking capitol of Canada.
I use a older Corbalink lock that I use on my motorcycle. 3/4 inch dia. 6 ft. long it is a little heavy but I can drape over my shoulder. The best theft protection is to take your seat and post out and the collar and have detachable pedals and yes take the battery out if you can't lock the battery. On your seat post mark or wrap duck tape or add a stopper on the post so you don't have to keep on readjusting the seat. Had my last bicycle stolen forty years ago. But without the seat and no pedals no one is going to take your bicycle.
Another excellent video, I think sometimes I should make a video. I have am up to about $2000 dollars in all kinds of accessories for our e-bikes. Ended up with the folding lock. Thanks again and Godspeed.
Buy the best lock and take all the precautions you can. They caught a man in my town going down the main drag, carrying a bolt cutter and looking for bikes to steal. Anything for drug money.
KUDOS for share and video! As usual, GREAT information, and I have the U one, and ordered the other Chain Lock, so I have both.... problem as you say, how to store while riding... may have to get panniers or at least a rack bag to put hthem in.... ALL THE BEST and CHeers ! :)
Hey Rick, many’s the time I have walked past a bike rack in Berkeley where there is one or bike frames that have been stripped down. Front and rear wheels gone, seat and post, etc, gone.
Another informative video! Like you and so many others the ebike has become almost a daily replacement vehicle for our car. So keeping it safely stored and locked up the grocery store has become a regular routine for Janice and myself. The U lock is also are go to favorite however, I also like throw on a cheaper combination lock as I figure it might be one more frustrating thing for a thief to deal with. As a side note we've been having so much fun scooting around town picking things up on our ebikes we recently added a bike trailer. Great for groceries and have even ridden out to a local Provincial campground for a overnighter via old rail trail. (as inspired by your river side ebike camp video👍) Now doing some research on flexible 100w solar panel for bike trailer "Burley Bee" paired with portable power station. The hope is to charge ebike batteries on route along with other bits and perhaps go a little further a field! Any how my wife thinks I'm a little nuts but she seems up for it just as long as nothing breaks down to often she's good to go! any tips tricks or possible rig set would be much appreciated. Thanks again R/L and gang for continued excellent content and inspiration🎥🤙🤙
Nice to hear about how your ebikes are working for you guys! I've been looking for something to convert to a bike trailer myself to help me get out camping, but I've also invested in some lighter gear and that's helped too. I plan on doing more ebike videos because so many of you are interested like I am
@@gonagain Often thought to build my own after watching a RUclipsr build his one. However, found ours locally on Facebook market place 👍...really believe ebike industry is going to take off given gas price, global warming supply chain issue etc. Moreover, just back from week away with teardrop trailer , found the whole trip had doubled in cost compared to same time last year. 🤞 things change soon ... look forward to next ebike vid and or camp vid 🤙🍻
Thank you! He suggested a better model of the Kryptonite chain lock that I featured. My take on bike locks is that a thief isn't going to pick the lock, because any thief that well trained isn't going to be stealing bikes, and they're just going to grind through the lock. Best to get the fattest lock you can and maybe even use several.
good video. i have hesitated buying an e bike just for this reason. they are expensive and easy to steal! plus easy to sell when stolen. The sad fact is until there is no secondary market for these{i e stolen } bikes the risk seems to high. Just think about the crazy theft of catalytic converters....its all about the easy money.
Hubby just had his custom bicycle worth 5k stolen right off the back of the trailer as we slept. But we did just buy a proven lock for the hitch...and we got locks on propane tanks and battery box. Its been a harsh and expensive learning curve.
I'm so sorry to hear that. I really hate thieves and have had things stolen in the past myself. The feeling of being violated never goes away. They say the best thing to do is to replace whatever it was that was stolen as soon as possible. With an expensive bike like that it's going to be kinda hard though.
Like many things if the police actually went after the bike thieves and the DA would fight for prison time for the theft since a few bikes can make it a felony then the bike thefts would reduce. Stay safe and healthy.
You are so right! Now they just let them go so that they can steal again. I just learned that in Washington state, a thief can steal up to $2000 a day without getting in trouble.
Good info. A well hidden gps tracker makes recovery of stolen bikes childs play for police. Or better yet, a 300lb private asset recovery person with a bad attitude and a gps.
"Best Policy" ... don't take it anywhere you have to leave it farther than your own reach .... I kept my bike secured to a Swagman Bike Rack and made quite a few trips throughout the Western U.S. ... used a heavy cable with a construction Grade Pad-Lock and U-Bar Lock combined attached to trailer hitch ... seemed to do the job .... in 2017 after being away for over 6 months I got home and had my $4,000 Mountain Bike stolen out of storage .... as Dorothy said ... "There's No Place Like Home" ...
@@gonagain Nope ... it was 1,800 sq.ft.Commercial Space in an Industrial Strata which I was sublettng a portion of from a long time good friend ... there were emergency access keys given to business next door which only 4 people had access to ... so I even know between two people who stole it ... keys were used to get in ... and no insurance coverage ... someday things may even out ... I replaced it with a better Carbon Fibre one in 2018 ... I was never told about emergency access keys until after ...
I know this is off topic but I couldn't find your email address. Just wanted to check up on you guys with all the flooding going on hope y'all are on high ground, stay safe. Ralph and Letty
Hello Ralph and Letty! We're fine except for the high winds were getting right now. All the flooding is further to the south of us. Those poor folks are really getting it. Contact us at gonagain21@gmail.com
Like you said, with a angle grinder within a minute your bike will be gone. A hidden gps tracking device can be detected with a gps detector. When your bike is out of your sight for too long, that is when it becomes dangerous to be stolen. Like the old saying goes, locks are put on for honest people. I guarantee you a thief will figure a way to get anything. One good way to find out how good locks are for your house or regular padlocks is to go on line and see how easy it can be bypassed. Take care and stay safe.
My neighbor bought the Magicycle step over and it was too big for him, he owed me some money, so he gave it to me for 500 bucks, only had 25 miles on it..I like it, but it didn't compare to my home made mountain bike(Trek Fuel EX-5) with the Bafang mid drive, max1750 watts, as far as torque and speed..So I put another 750 watt motor on the front wheel, another battery, put on a cloud 9 seat with suspension post, raised the handle bars, got rid of all the Magicycle branding all over it, put chrome lettering on the battery that says, "Outlaw edition" with a chrome skull, with blue glow in the dark flames all over it, goes almost 40 mph now, just finished it today..It's just as fast as my Bafang now, comfort cruiser with balls..I don't use locks, you'd have to be pretty stupid to steal from me...Of course the whole country is full of stupid...A cordless grinder will defeat any lock in seconds, of course grinding locks off in public will get you a room in the county jail...I just keep an eye on my bikes, like a hawk....
@@gonagain Thanks...I'm surprised you haven't built one yet, seems like that would be right up your ally..Find a bike you want to convert, mountain bike , cargo bike, road bike, comfort cruiser, get a bafang mid drive kit with battery from Luna Cycle, or Johnny Nerdout, I would avoid Amazon for motor and battery..Only takes an hour or so..The bigger the front sprocket, the faster high end speed, like 46-52 tooth, the smaller the sprocket like 36 tooth, the better hill climbing ability, but either way it will out compete a hub motor in speed and hill climbing...The Bafang system is refined and virtually maintenance and trouble free...But there are advantages to hub motors also, I'm a big fan of the all wheel drive hub motor Magicycle, I can use the front or rear motor only or both at the same time, I can keep up with traffic up to 35MPH, and climb any trail or hill..Car replacement with fun is always my main goal...Costs only 14 cents to charge a 1 kilowatt battery...
I really find your info interesting and I may have to do my own build to get one. My problem is a lack of time! I'm supposed to be retired, but I'm working harder than I ever did before. Doing these videos is s lot more fun though.
@@gonagain Slowing down always seems to be a bad choice, staying busy with things you enjoy, is a far superior strategy...You seem like your doing retirement just right...Bitcoin saved me from another two decades of working towards retirement, I walked out, cashed out and lucked out..I made a little boat with solar panels for a roof with a trolling motor and iron lithium phosphate battery, going for a spin right now, take care...
The one we are using all the time is the Bodega TWW55 because it has two separate cooling systems. That makes it a true freezer/refrigerator like the one in your home. www.bodegacooler.com/discount/Gonagain
@@gonagain Thank you for the recommendation just curious if you have used a. Two-compartment refrigerator where the center divider comes out to make one big section?
This e bike looks expensive and bike thieves must salivate when they see it parked outside a store. My trick is to fold my e bike and then lock it with the chain lock and when it's folded it doesn't look like much, plus I bring in the battery.
electric bikes i , dont know but on my harley i rigged a shock powered from my battery, when parked if you sit on the seat when the switch is on you will receive a 1 amp direct current up your ass. enough to some a mad burn and others a kill. i also have a sign that tells you not to sit on my bike, it is a custom harley, and very custom , best protection so far, ! 4 people have meet the shocker 3 women and 1 man. as far as the half circle lock i like it , i would place inside the front of the rear tire over the battery for one lock, and the same on the front tire, .
I had so many bikes stolen when I was in my teens and when I got my last bike I figured it was better to buy more than one luck than it was to buy another bike so I always had 4 chains and locks with me at all times. I would use the bike to go to Boca Raton , Miami , Lake Okeechobee , and I even went to Key West a few times I even got a speeding ticket once for doing 48 mph in a 35 I loved my 10 speed I had it for 3 years and replaced tires on it 2 times and when I went in the Army I sold it to a friend of mine for what I paid for it. If I was able to ride a bike now I would go back to the more locks the better because most crooks are lazy and want the fast snatch and grab. Stay safe and take care Rick and Linda.
@@gonagain I put 1000's of miles on my 10 speed this is all back when I didn't have medical issues. Even when I was in Germany I rode a lot over there I covered from Mannheim to Stuttgart , Heidelberg , Frankfort , I would go until I got to a small town grab a beer or 8 and then go to the woods and camp for the night life was great back then. I always thought in my mind that you blew out your knee running from Linda because you didn't get all your honey do's done lol. Your always kind to me Rick I thank you for that not everyone enjoys my comments but you just ride along with them not all are dumb I don't think but A lot are just to try and get a smile out of people that may be board and reading comments looking for a laugh or two. Take care Rick On and yes the more locks the better no one ever took that bike to much work for them I think.
You might look at the "Lock picking Lawyer" channel, he tests all kinds of locks, including those used for bikes.
Glad you suggested LPL, I was going to until I saw your comment
The LPL videos will make you demoralized about all locks. 😊
Looks nice and green in central Montana. The sound of the meadowlark in the background reminded me of my time in similar country. I agree with the prior comment about the Lock Picking Lawyer.
I also have use a bike alarm (Wsdcam 113dB Bike Alarm) and really like that with a strong bike lock.
Those bike alarms are nice to have in addition to a lock.
I got the gold standard Hip lock ! Around waist 10 mm chain with 12 mm buckle padded cover reflective ! when worn around waist it is not locked ! You feel no weight ! 2.8kilo ! Plus Kryptonite cable and d lock front alarm disk lock ! My E bike $12,000 ! Thank you All with me !
I bought the foldable lock and an alarm for my Magicycle.
As uaual, a through discussion full of good information without a ton of useless chatter.
Thank you!
Yes, I take my Lectric bike in the grocery store every time. I think they expect it now. Good video!
I got a bike lock at Dollar Tree, it's a cable combination, 566 and it opens up, enough to keep somebody from riding off with it at Walmart.
We met a couple that had their bikes stolen off the back of their camper which they had locked up . The thefts cut them the cables they had attached. They bought new ones and said they put them inside and put an alarm along with cameras so they can see if anyone is breaking into the camper..I thought that was a good idea. I wished them luck.
Thank you Rick for your advice. Always appreciate your honesty!
pays to be safe thank you ALL stay safe
I use 2 Lock's, one on the back tire and one on the front tire.
Great info, I always put 4 different kinds of locks on my bike, so it may takes time for the thief to cut them off.
Thx for the vid, for one who's had stuff stolen from me, I like your take on this, especially about taking the battery with you
Thanks for the suggestions. Like you said, most things are just a deterrent. Just things to make it more difficult or time consuming for a thief. Hopefully they move on to something easier. Golf carts are a common item stolen in my area. I installed a hidden rocker switch between the battery and ignition
Good video Gonagain, and for me leaving an expensive e-bike anywhere with locks or not will not happen, and when not in use it is locked in my garage. Many people think Canada is full of nice law abiding people, think again from one who knows, from the car jacking capitol of Canada.
Nice lock review Rick, very informative.
JT
Thanks, JT! Using it now on this trip.
Pewig is my choose for anything that needs to lock.
I've seen those also and they look pretty good.
You have such great information
Thank you, Laura.
I use a older Corbalink lock that I use on my motorcycle. 3/4 inch dia. 6 ft. long it is a little heavy but I can drape over my shoulder. The best theft protection is to take your seat and post out and the collar and have detachable pedals and yes take the battery out if you can't lock the battery. On your seat post mark or wrap duck tape or add a stopper on the post so you don't have to keep on readjusting the seat. Had my last bicycle stolen forty years ago. But without the seat and no pedals no one is going to take your bicycle.
I like it!
Another excellent video, I think sometimes I should make a video.
I have am up to about $2000 dollars in all kinds of accessories for our e-bikes.
Ended up with the folding lock.
Thanks again and Godspeed.
Thank you, Doug.
I really appreciated this video Rick it really gave me some great ideas 👍👍
Buy the best lock and take all the precautions you can. They caught a man in my town going down the main drag, carrying a bolt cutter and looking for bikes to steal. Anything for drug money.
@@gonagain oh man that's so wrong
KUDOS for share and video! As usual, GREAT information, and I have the U one, and ordered the other Chain Lock, so I have both.... problem as you say, how to store while riding... may have to get panniers or at least a rack bag to put hthem in.... ALL THE BEST and CHeers ! :)
I'm going to get a better chain lock myself soon. Nothing wrong with the brand really, just a bigger one will help.
Just what I needed. Thanks!
No problem!
Need them all I think Lock the wheels to the bike and lock the bike to a police cruiser
LOL!
Hey Rick, many’s the time I have walked past a bike rack in Berkeley where there is one or bike frames that have been stripped down. Front and rear wheels gone, seat and post, etc, gone.
Oh, geeze!
Need a good lock for this ebike
Another informative video! Like you and so many others the ebike has become almost a daily replacement vehicle for our car. So keeping it safely stored and locked up the grocery store has become a regular routine for Janice and myself. The U lock is also are go to favorite however, I also like throw on a cheaper combination lock as I figure it might be one more frustrating thing for a thief to deal with. As a side note we've been having so much fun scooting around town picking things up on our ebikes we recently added a bike trailer. Great for groceries and have even ridden out to a local Provincial campground for a overnighter via old rail trail. (as inspired by your river side ebike camp video👍) Now doing some research on flexible 100w solar panel for bike trailer "Burley Bee" paired with portable power station. The hope is to charge ebike batteries on route along with other bits and perhaps go a little further a field! Any how my wife thinks I'm a little nuts but she seems up for it just as long as nothing breaks down to often she's good to go! any tips tricks or possible rig set would be much appreciated. Thanks again R/L and gang for continued excellent content and inspiration🎥🤙🤙
Nice to hear about how your ebikes are working for you guys! I've been looking for something to convert to a bike trailer myself to help me get out camping, but I've also invested in some lighter gear and that's helped too. I plan on doing more ebike videos because so many of you are interested like I am
@@gonagain Often thought to build my own after watching a RUclipsr build his one. However, found ours locally on Facebook market place 👍...really believe ebike industry is going to take off given gas price, global warming supply chain issue etc. Moreover, just back from week away with teardrop trailer , found the whole trip had doubled in cost compared to same time last year. 🤞 things change soon ... look forward to next ebike vid and or camp vid 🤙🍻
Check out the lock picking lawyer. Great video, sir.
Thank you! He suggested a better model of the Kryptonite chain lock that I featured. My take on bike locks is that a thief isn't going to pick the lock, because any thief that well trained isn't going to be stealing bikes, and they're just going to grind through the lock. Best to get the fattest lock you can and maybe even use several.
@@gonagain I thought you would enjoy his channel. I started watching him after thieves broke into my pay laundry machines.
It helped, thank you
Glad it helped! Thanks for watching.
Friend of mine has a 30-inch hardened steel chain, that thing must weigh 10-pounds or more, E-gad.
good video. i have hesitated buying an e bike just for this reason. they are expensive and easy to steal! plus easy to sell when stolen. The sad fact is until there is no secondary market for these{i e stolen } bikes the risk seems to high. Just think about the crazy theft of catalytic converters....its all about the easy money.
Hubby just had his custom bicycle worth 5k stolen right off the back of the trailer as we slept. But we did just buy a proven lock for the hitch...and we got locks on propane tanks and battery box. Its been a harsh and expensive learning curve.
I'm so sorry to hear that. I really hate thieves and have had things stolen in the past myself. The feeling of being violated never goes away. They say the best thing to do is to replace whatever it was that was stolen as soon as possible. With an expensive bike like that it's going to be kinda hard though.
@@gonagain yes, he has his old bike so we got that...great news, the border is open to us lepers ...oops, unvaxed..again, whoohoooo!!!!!!!!!
That's good news, it'll be nice to see our Canadian neighbors again!
Flooding shuts down Yellowstone. Be safe.
Like many things if the police actually went after the bike thieves and the DA would fight for prison time for the theft since a few bikes can make it a felony then the bike thefts would reduce. Stay safe and healthy.
You are so right! Now they just let them go so that they can steal again. I just learned that in Washington state, a thief can steal up to $2000 a day without getting in trouble.
Good info.
A well hidden gps tracker makes recovery of stolen bikes childs play for police.
Or better yet, a 300lb private asset recovery person with a bad attitude and a gps.
Yep!
"Best Policy" ... don't take it anywhere you have to leave it farther than your own reach .... I kept my bike secured to a Swagman Bike Rack and made quite a few trips throughout the Western U.S. ... used a heavy cable with a construction Grade Pad-Lock and U-Bar Lock combined attached to trailer hitch ... seemed to do the job .... in 2017 after being away for over 6 months I got home and had my $4,000 Mountain Bike stolen out of storage .... as Dorothy said ... "There's No Place Like Home" ...
If that was a commercial storage facility, I hope they reimbursed you. I'm sorry that happened.
@@gonagain Nope ... it was 1,800 sq.ft.Commercial Space in an Industrial Strata which I was sublettng a portion of from a long time good friend ... there were emergency access keys given to business next door which only 4 people had access to ... so I even know between two people who stole it ... keys were used to get in ... and no insurance coverage ... someday things may even out ... I replaced it with a better Carbon Fibre one in 2018 ... I was never told about emergency access keys until after ...
I know this is off topic but I couldn't find your email address.
Just wanted to check up on you guys with all the flooding going on hope y'all are on high ground, stay safe.
Ralph and Letty
Hello Ralph and Letty! We're fine except for the high winds were getting right now. All the flooding is further to the south of us. Those poor folks are really getting it. Contact us at gonagain21@gmail.com
Like you said, with a angle grinder within a minute your bike will be gone. A hidden gps tracking device can be detected with a gps detector. When your bike is out of your sight for too long, that is when it becomes dangerous to be stolen. Like the old saying goes, locks are put on for honest people. I guarantee you a thief will figure a way to get anything. One good way to find out how good locks are for your house or regular padlocks is to go on line and see how easy it can be bypassed. Take care and stay safe.
Nothing stops a determined thief, all we can do is slow them down.
My neighbor bought the Magicycle step over and it was too big for him, he owed me some money, so he gave it to me for 500 bucks, only had 25 miles on it..I like it, but it didn't compare to my home made mountain bike(Trek Fuel EX-5) with the Bafang mid drive, max1750 watts, as far as torque and speed..So I put another 750 watt motor on the front wheel, another battery, put on a cloud 9 seat with suspension post, raised the handle bars, got rid of all the Magicycle branding all over it, put chrome lettering on the battery that says, "Outlaw edition" with a chrome skull, with blue glow in the dark flames all over it, goes almost 40 mph now, just finished it today..It's just as fast as my Bafang now, comfort cruiser with balls..I don't use locks, you'd have to be pretty stupid to steal from me...Of course the whole country is full of stupid...A cordless grinder will defeat any lock in seconds, of course grinding locks off in public will get you a room in the county jail...I just keep an eye on my bikes, like a hawk....
I like your innovation on the bike! I'd love to ride a potent mid-drive like you have on some of the steep hills I find.
@@gonagain Thanks...I'm surprised you haven't built one yet, seems like that would be right up your ally..Find a bike you want to convert, mountain bike , cargo bike, road bike, comfort cruiser, get a bafang mid drive kit with battery from Luna Cycle, or Johnny Nerdout, I would avoid Amazon for motor and battery..Only takes an hour or so..The bigger the front sprocket, the faster high end speed, like 46-52 tooth, the smaller the sprocket like 36 tooth, the better hill climbing ability, but either way it will out compete a hub motor in speed and hill climbing...The Bafang system is refined and virtually maintenance and trouble free...But there are advantages to hub motors also, I'm a big fan of the all wheel drive hub motor Magicycle, I can use the front or rear motor only or both at the same time, I can keep up with traffic up to 35MPH, and climb any trail or hill..Car replacement with fun is always my main goal...Costs only 14 cents to charge a 1 kilowatt battery...
I really find your info interesting and I may have to do my own build to get one. My problem is a lack of time! I'm supposed to be retired, but I'm working harder than I ever did before. Doing these videos is s lot more fun though.
@@gonagain Slowing down always seems to be a bad choice, staying busy with things you enjoy, is a far superior strategy...You seem like your doing retirement just right...Bitcoin saved me from another two decades of working towards retirement, I walked out, cashed out and lucked out..I made a little boat with solar panels for a roof with a trolling motor and iron lithium phosphate battery, going for a spin right now, take care...
It been a while since you did a refrigerator review......so what one are you still using and why
The one we are using all the time is the Bodega TWW55 because it has two separate cooling systems. That makes it a true freezer/refrigerator like the one in your home. www.bodegacooler.com/discount/Gonagain
@@gonagain Thank you for the recommendation just curious if you have used a. Two-compartment refrigerator where the center divider comes out to make one big section?
We have and Linda didn't like that it took up space and less items could fit inside. Other than that, it was okay.
This e bike looks expensive and bike thieves must salivate when they see it parked outside a store. My trick is to fold my e bike and then lock it with the chain lock and when it's folded it doesn't look like much, plus I bring in the battery.
Good tips, Pedro!
🙋🏻🌄☕
Hi, Carla!
electric bikes i , dont know but on my harley i rigged a shock powered from my battery, when parked if you sit on the seat when the switch is on you will receive a 1 amp direct current up your ass. enough to some a mad burn and others a kill. i also have a sign that tells you not to sit on my bike, it is a custom harley, and very custom , best protection so far, ! 4 people have meet the shocker 3 women and 1 man. as far as the half circle lock i like it , i would place inside the front of the rear tire over the battery for one lock, and the same on the front tire, .
Sounds like the perfect solution!
I would pee beside the building I wouldn't even go inside
The pit toilets along this trail are always clean, thank goodness.
I just figured I could keep a better eye on it if I pee outside
I had so many bikes stolen when I was in my teens and when I got my last bike I figured it was better to buy more than one luck than it was to buy another bike so I always had 4 chains and locks with me at all times. I would use the bike to go to Boca Raton , Miami , Lake Okeechobee , and I even went to Key West a few times I even got a speeding ticket once for doing 48 mph in a 35 I loved my 10 speed I had it for 3 years and replaced tires on it 2 times and when I went in the Army I sold it to a friend of mine for what I paid for it. If I was able to ride a bike now I would go back to the more locks the better because most crooks are lazy and want the fast snatch and grab. Stay safe and take care Rick and Linda.
Good thinking, Den. Layers of protection. Riding my 10 speeds around Lake Washington is when I blew my knee out the first time.
@@gonagain I put 1000's of miles on my 10 speed this is all back when I didn't have medical issues. Even when I was in Germany I rode a lot over there I covered from Mannheim to Stuttgart , Heidelberg , Frankfort , I would go until I got to a small town grab a beer or 8 and then go to the woods and camp for the night life was great back then. I always thought in my mind that you blew out your knee running from Linda because you didn't get all your honey do's done lol. Your always kind to me Rick I thank you for that not everyone enjoys my comments but you just ride along with them not all are dumb I don't think but A lot are just to try and get a smile out of people that may be board and reading comments looking for a laugh or two. Take care Rick On and yes the more locks the better no one ever took that bike to much work for them I think.