Put a STOP to flat tires - 5 things to know for your ebike
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0:00 This is so annoying!
0:36 The Control
1:00 #1 Pricing
2:24 #2 Follow Installation Instructions
2:26 Uh-oh
4:06 Thank you for this awesome shirt!
4:14 Which is easiest to install?
4:47 Let's pop some holes!!!!
4:54 #3 Puncture Flats Can Happen Anywhere
7:07 #4 Nothing is really puncture resistant - be prepared.
8:59 #5 Find the best combo for your tires based on our testing 
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What are the best products you've used to put a stop to flat tires?
I use tannus with flat out. So far I have only had to replace tires when they get worn out. Before I used slime with tannus and had a flat but tannus did get me home. I rid 15 miles daily (unless I have to shovel snow) on dirt, desert, rough bike/walk paths, and street Tannus and Flat out have been so far bulletproof. Currently, I just use Flat Out in my Aventon Aventure and will see how that works. If I get a flat then I will install the Tannus I have. It can be an adventure installing the Tannus. I use baby powder to help with the install and also use a size smaller than the 4 inch fat tire tube.
Saw a post where a person used a large, split, pool-noodle plus a 26"x 2" tube inserted into the tire and pressurized to 20 psi. Pretty much saved the tube from everything less than the thickness of the pool noodle, and on the cheap. You should do a similar test, with and without FlatOut and Slime.
Is there a difference between flatout sportsman and multi-purpose?
I have used Tannus on 2 bikes a conventional and E-bike. I have been riding for exercise for about 4 years . Been using tannus about 2 1/2 years @ 80 miles a week. No flats.
I use Tannus and Flat Out. I have not had any problems.
You guys didn't even give these a proper test. With the slime and liquids you have to let the tire spin so the liquid/slime is over the hole and will leak out it. Also you need to reflate to 20psi to see will it hold. Also you put a screw into it when the psi was like 0 so the liquid wont work. if you are going to test a screw put it at 20 PSI again and test to see it works
They were spinning the tires lol. That’s how Flat out was able to seal up the holes
@@alexisluna8740 They spun them a bit but did not look like they did them properly. Like the one they saw it come out then just left the hole facing up with air coming out. You have to let the liquid come out over and over and over again.
@@alexisluna8740 Forgot to mention that also remember the puncture would occur where the liquid is, at the bottom of the tire so as soon as the nail or what ever pulls out there would be tire slime/liquid right there to fill the hole with 20 PSI also pushing it out through the hole. Just observation is all. they still made it work by using it in a not perfect test so that speaks volumes also to the product and how well it works with just a couple rotations of the tire.
I mean, flatout won anyway so if anything it'll perform even better.......
Exactly they had the hole at the top and not spinning
I think you should have had the wheels on a spindle or a bike and spun them more with the Slime and Flat-out. The way you did it certainly shows Flat-out is a good product but if the Slime had been evenly distributed in the tire it might have done better.
I agree. All of the liquid sealants work best when the tire spins AFTER the puncture and the sealant has multiple opportunities to reach the hole.
I was about to say the same thing. Rotation will definitely distribute the goo.
Slime has always worked flawlessly for us for years.
As most cyclists hopefully have a pump with them, I'd be interested to know if adding air to the tire with slime in it would then hold?
Yep, got a flat from a goat head 2 days ago, I use slime, after I took the goat head out I spun the tire for the sealant works it was around and it sealed the flat, and I was on my way once again.
For those wondering for a tire less than 3 inches the dosage of flat out is only 8 oz. Their fat tire required 16oz
Thanks for adding this comment. I needed this because that is the tire size on my bike.
Thanks! I' wasn't excited about adding a full pound to my tires.
I wonder if the recommendation is the same for Slime. 8oz for a normal bike tire, 16oz for fat.
@@uncrunch398 Yea maybe with more slime the slime would have worked out
@@uncrunch398 Slime is 4oz for a normal bike tire.. 8oz for a dirtbike tire.. but i put in the full 8oz Slime in my 26x4 fat-tire and it didn't even stop a tiny pin hole.. maybe it was because the hole was along the seam, on the side of the tube?, or maybe it was just a cheap tube, (bike alone is also 75lbs *RadroverV6),but either way my experience with Slime wasn't a success..
..even 4oz and 8oz made my tire off balance.. couldn't really tell when riding, but if you piked up the back tire and spun it you could tell..
I'm a fan of not putting anything in my tubes until aft the fact, so i basically now carry a tiny air pump and an extra tube and patches.. and i also carry a tiny can of something like fix-a-flat, (something that can inflate as well).. but i only use those things if changing a tube is not right away possible..
You can get little usb portable inflators.. 30$ cheap ones are big and bulky, but they have some that fit in the palm of your hand for like 75$ and up.
That was such an informative video. I just purchased an E-Bike 2 days ago and road it the first day and woke up to a flat the next day. Definitely will be investing in "Flat Out". I watched the videos on Amazon and it shows it will fix and actually plug holes up to a 1/2" and last for 10 years in your inner tube. Thank you again for sharing and damaging your tires so we could actually see what would happen. Great Video!!!
how did the flatout work for you?
I've heard great things
@@ap3055 Worked great for me. I have had thorns in my E-Bike tires and no flats. Sealed them right up.
About 55 years ago, when I was a kid, we would take an old tube and cut it to make our own home made tire liner. Of course, that was not nearly as tough as these expensive tire liners, but back then the modern tire liners were not available. I still use the home made tire liners with Slime in the tube.
I have Tannus Armour liners on my Warthog fatbike and Tannus instructs to use a smaller tube with them. They also said to inflate to 1/2 of what you would normally use in your tires so if you were normally running 20PSI you would then go down to 10PSI after installing the liners. It also makes sense to use a good quality tire which will also help prevent flats. I like the idea of using FlatOut with the tubes just make sure the tubes you use have removable valves as some Presta valves are not removable ( I learned that the hard way☺).
I use Slime in my tires and occasionally notice small green spots on the treads and that shows me it works.
BTW: 70 lb. Ebike, 200 lb. rider, 26" x 2.30" tires, 100 + miles per week.
My point is, it works. As always, thanks for the information Kyle and Ms. Tire killer.
I seen a video where the slime didn't work but after reading your comment and others I'm definitely going with the slime..btw my first flat was a pin size so I know for sure the slime would work for me..
@@trini_boi2414 slime defo works well mate, I had a bad gash in my tire and it caused my tire to go completely flat, the slime sealed and my inner tube held out for another couple hundred miles
Slime works but it is IMPORTANT to buy the correct type for TUBE tires! Some places sell both types and TUBELESS is a totally different formula which doesn't work well on tube type bicycle tires.
It fuckin sucks. Flatout is in another league, scooby
Your tires are protecting the tube not the slime. I weight a lot less than you and have had more flats than I can remember on my escooter.
You didnt consider a couple critical variables. First, rotation would be spinning the wheel at 10+ mph, not just "a roll" to simulate. And, taking that one more step, the rotation continues after the hole plugs. Some sealers - seal, but then with more use, they let UNseal...and the tire goes flat. You must RIDE the tire, after the hole to know if the sealer holds. If youd have done that, the video would be complete. This oversight does not take away from your channel; I discovered on your channel yesterday that there is a cable/hydrolic break caliper. I didnt know that! I knew the brakes on my ebike were below acceptable. Was going to replace the whole break system, but the kill switch is a thing ive never dealt with before, so i hesitated. Then found your video! What a GREAT idea...to move he capiper down to the breakhead! Who knew? YOU did! Thank you for that insight!
It's ridiculous that they didn't place these tires on a bicycle, to simulate what really happens
I don't believe he was trying to show a Scientific type situation, just a quick showing, thus I believe the experiment was adequate, and had me install the Flat-Out product. Now have been 2,650k and zero flats, so for the $ spent, I'm happy with it.
Very impressive! Was considering one one these products, and the liquid ones were always considered messy when the the tube had to come out of the tire for whatever reason. I think this test definitely shows it’s worth it for the money!
Thanks for watching! So happy to hear you liked it jbwjr54
I've always used slime in my tires. Where I used to live (montana), goatheads are a real problem. Just the other day I rode to the store, (a half mile each way) and could feel my rear end squirming around. When I got home my rear tire was half flat with a bright gold tack stuck in it. I pulled out the tack and pumped the tire back up to 40 psi (I have 27.5 x 2.40 tires) and after four days I checked the pressure again and it remained at 40 psi. So I'm happy with that. Though I will be switching to Flat out when and if I ever replace the tubes.
Just deleted my first reply. Extenuating circumstances--please disregard.
I think the 'liquid fixes' would also benefit from the centrifugal force of riding. The continuous spinning of the wheel would force the hole to be filled more quickly and effectively I think.
With all due respect when adding fluid you should the valve stem at either 3 or 9 position
that i did not know i see why thanks
I have used Flat Out for a few years on my riding mower, my property has locus trees on it with massive thorns, I was constantly filling the tires with air. The Flat out instantly solved that problem. I haven't had a issue in the last three years. I believe that the trouble with using the product on a bike or car tire is weight distribution . The product is quite a bit heavier than slime, and could be a balance issue at higher speeds🤔
Interesting... but on e-bikes like motorcycles probably not a problem with fat tires e-bikes.
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As long as the Flat Out stays viscous there shouldn't be a balance issue. In fact, it should help with balancing the tire because they usually self balance with tire rotation.
This video was so timely as your video seem to be. Got a flat on my fat tire bike two weeks ago. Finally, got all the needed tools, supplies and time to repair. I did the old school. Rubber cement and vulcanized rubber patch to fix the leak. Based on your video review, for preventing flat in future, i used tuffy liners (tannus review we so so) and most important flatout sealant. Keep these type videos coming.
Get video. Glad someone took the time to do this. When I got a fat bike and moved to the country where goat heads are everywhere, by Armadillo tires and Mr. Tuffys no long did the trick. Got nearly a flat a month. 7 months ago I put Tannus liners in. Hurrah! No flats... until I got two 2" nails in a tire. Tannus is great for smaller stuff and glass, but nothing prevents a 2" nail/screw from entering. BTW, I discovered that my Tannus's , which started out over 1/2" thick, compressed to 1/4" over those 7 months. So I"m goin' for the Tannus plus Flat Out. If that doesn't work, I'm switching to wagon wheels.
Part of the maintenance of the Tannus, is to actually partially deflate the tires if you won't use the bike for a few days. Then inflate when ready. It's supposed to allow the Tannus to regain its form. I've only had them for 1 month, but I'm following that rule. And I know some might think it's a hassle to inflate and deflate. But it's really not for me. I have a good old fashion bike pump, and gauge, and it's about 60 pumps to get the PSI that I want. So yeah, you're right about the compression of the Tannus.
@@masvas1 I can see where deflating regularly might make a difference, however, that adds another difficulty for fat tires. Being big and kinda "sloppy" on the rim once deflated, they're prone to pinch flats every time you reinflate them if the tube has worked its way between the tire and the rim. Ask me how I know?
@@chrisgoodfellow9695 I guess I don't have to ask you how you know. Which is why I never deflate mine completely. So for example, if I pump my tires to 18 PSI, I'll deflate them till they're around 5-8 PSI. Or just some where, where they are not flopping about, cause you're right, they can get sloppy around the rim.
Old wooden wagon wheels... 😭😭😭
Thanks for performing the test. You did a great consumer reports imitation! The results were clear and the procedure you used was fair. I appreciate the time and effort from both of you to conduct the experiment.
That Young Lady is pretty strong and very helpful!!......Her facial expressions made my day....One always needs a Happy Helper Side Kick!!
Maybe have her in a bikini to make the video a little more interesting!! Just saying!!! Lol…🤟😜
@@brianmck7363 creepy brother
Would using Tannas armour liner with flat out be over kill or double prevention? Tannas website recommends using smaller tubes when using their product, and they don’t list fat tires on their conversion chart. Could you install these liners on your tires that you sell as an upgrade when selling them? Thanks for the helpful info videos. Peace.
I'm now rocking the Tannus armor and Flat Out inside Schwalbe Moto X with GreenGuard. There's essentially zero air in the tire, which means I haven't had to pump them up in ~6 months and they feel like the perfect firm ness with my front fork. I'm still reaching close to the top 25 mph speed on flats, so I'd definitely recommend the set up if you want zero maintenance. (That said, when I need to replace them, I might just go with Tannus's totally wireless option which is a bit simpler.) Definitely piece of mind when riding home alone late at night!
Great information! I wasn’t aware of Flat Out, have been using Slime along with puncture resistant tires for a couple of years and it works good against goat heads,
Glad it was helpful!
decided to use flatout because of this video, got some on amazon right away. For those wondering the mfr says all formulas are the same. It's just marketing on the bottle.
They have completely mislead you. Or your Flat Out and are looking for sales. SMH...
If I’m not mistaken, I believe you are supposed to go down to a 3” tube when installing the tanis armor
You definetly go smaller. Tannus sent me a 26 x 3.25 tube
I bought the Tannus set for my Lectric 2.0. Cost a good amount & they provided the right sized tubes for my tires ( 20 by 2.50 - 2.95 ) However, I would not suggest Tannus because when I pulled my wheel off I noticed the liner was flat. This was not due to wrong tube size or over inflation either. I have since had the insert out of the bike and kept in an overly warm room to see if it would come back to shape. As of 4 days it is still flat. Be careful, okay.
A bike mechanic informed me that you have to replace Tannus liners about every 5 years as they compress over time.
Excellent test, and I cringed at the wood screws! Ironically, I've never gotten a flat on my e-bike after 3000 miles, but I think that has more to do with the Kenda puncture resistant tires reinforced with ceramic, Kevlar, vibranium or whatever, lol. I've rolled right over broken glass at least a dozen times, and nothing made it through the tire casing. I still put in the Tannus Armour (just in case for group rides), but it should be noted that with a fat tire e-bike, you can't ride the bike because the liner is not enough to prevent the rim from being damaged on pavement.
Also noteworthy is that Slime makes it almost impossible to patch any hole the sealant can't handle. Had a friend get stranded on her Super73 when a patch, installed at a professional shop, let go because the Slime attacked the adhesive and caused the patch to fail. The Tuffy Liner helps by being more difficult to penetrate, but you never know when someone is gonna stop you and use a drill on your tire! 😉
A couple more notes about the Tannus Armor is that it does increase rolling resistance a bit, and the more pressure in the tire, the more the liner will be compressed, and the thinner your layer of protection will be. I run mine at 16PSI. They will also abrade the inner casing of the tire due to friction, but it has not been a problem so far. A side benefit though, is that the Tannus Armour improves contact with the riding surface, giving you more control over uneven surfaces.
Did you change out your oem inner tubes for smaller diameter ones, or just stick with the stock tubes?
After months and months of use, did you notice if the Tannus foam got compacted at all, or get squished from the pressure of the inner tube pressing against it for so long? 🤔
I didn't test my tannus armor against a drill bit, but I've extensively tested it against trails and it works great. Riding over a rock garden, you risk holes that are a lot bigger even if the penetration isn't as deep, and they're great for that, even protect sidewall. Also they claim run-flat capability and it's almost true, down to about 3.5 psi.
100% agree. Bought a new mountain bike and was getting a flat about once a week. I tried slimes, thick tubes, Mr. Tuffy, etc. Nothing helped until I got tannus. I have ridden everyday for almost a year now without a single flat. Worth every penny.
I just got a flat yesterday using Tannus. The bike mechanic fixing my flat couldn’t find what did it, only a micro hole in my tube. I’ll be adding flat out for sure!
It'd be nice to protect the tire from running too low. It's good to at least protect the rim and the tire lasts long enough to ride on as far as you need it.
I have been watching your videos for a bit now but this was very helpful and I bought some flat out. You got a new subscriber today
Awesome! Thank you!
Thanks for your tips. I recently bought a cheetah ebike and had a goat thorn poke my front tire. Now I can get it fixed and get back to riding.
Love the video! Any idea when the upgraded rad power controllers are going to be in stock?
Im SO GLAD you made this video! Im interested in what really works and is a waste of money!
I took the time to call FlatOut and spoke to the product manager for their Sportsman Formula. They tested it on a name brand of fat tire hunting ebike. I use it as a tubeless sealant as well and it works amazingly well. Much better than either Stans or Orange Seal.
Thank you so much for this video. I got an ebike in May of 2022 and commute with it to work. Since that time I have put on over 3,700 miles and got 4 flat tires all in the rear. Last Saturday I installed the Tannus tire armour and flatout and coming home from work tonight (Tuesday) I knew something was in the tire, but I couldn't tell what it was because it was very dark out. Anyway, when I got back home, I noticed a metal object in the tire. At first I thought it was a staple, but upon closer inspection it's a nail that is bent. I am so elated and thrilled that it stopped the flat. Thank you very much.
Haven't run over a drill bit yet, but screws and roofing nails galore. I tell people, just like a car tire, practice changing before you need to. Patching is a good skill to learn- I keep a patch kit and a spare tube in my bag.
never had a rotating drill on the road
LMAO!!!! Let's see what happens when ya drill a 3/8's into that puppy!!! Better yet, just shoot it!!!! LOL 🚲🛵🛴🦽🚲🏍️
I'm glad the shirt fits and it is goood looking
Thanks Paul! Super cool shirt!
Keep up the good work guys. I love your channel, it’s so real. These tests were awesome. I actually pulled a 2 inch screw out of my kenda tire once with the mr tuffy liners. I was able to get home from about a mile but I was pushing it, it was 112 degrees outside so I’m sure anyone understands
Why would you of pulled it out then headed back home
Thanks for the informative video. I would suggest supporting bike and weight off the tire you fill with sealant and then re-inflate. The weight of the bike kept the tire bead from seating at the top. Simple solution to keep from having to do it twice.
I was looking for advice on the best solution for preventing flats on my e-bike. This video was absolutely perfect. Thank you for making my decision a no brainer!
I used Flat Out....this test makes me happy and secure. I have a patch kit for each of my bikes both pedal and e.
Thank you. You did the exact comparison that I wanted. I ride mostly bike paths and a tiny bit of dirt roads. I'm going with flat out for mine and my sons 20 x 4" ebike tires, period. ❤
Thanks for your educational experience and resources and support for the best way to decide on protecting your bike tires from going flat. God-bless.
Great video Kyle thanks for all u do for the e bike community .
Any time! I love what I do!
Once you add slime or flat out, can you ever check the tire pressure again? I’ve heard it will plug up the valve stem and also possible ruin the tool being used to measure pressure…
I'm 75 doing research on buying an etrike. Your explanation on torque and cadence is perfect and now makes sense. Finally. Thank you. For me, cadence is the right choice. Probably will need the throttle.
I use flat out myself after using slime cause flat out claims it seals bigger holes
It seems like it works after your test.
Home Depot "Orbit UPC 2 in. x 50 ft. 20 Mil PVC Pipe Wrap" $5.24 a roll it is thin and fits perfect. Nails, Screws, Thorns glass and more. it's made to protect under ground pipes
As always, informative and entertaining. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
11 punctures one year later and still holding air. Love this stuff. Take care and stay safe.
Great video as always!
I'm going to be using rhinodillo as the first layer, I will then put in the Tannus liner. I will then add slime to the tube. I will also put putting Velox rim tape on the rim, followed by a PVC inner tube cushion over the rim tape. All items are purchased and on the shelf to be used....as soon as the bike gets here that is. Fedex where you at? :)
Will they all fit/work? I'm going to find out!
I’m really curious as to how it worked out for you, any updates?
Thank you for this video I don't think a lot of people are testing thise stuff online, you might be the only one that took a science approach to it. I just got Mr. Tuffy and hope I can keep nails and screws out of my wheels because that seems to be my number one thing that's punching my tires twice a month. Thank you, you have earned my sub and thumbs up!
I use Stans Tire Sealant. Its white and works just like slime but not green. I use to fill the leak until I get home to repair it. Alway keep an extra bottle in my backpack. Easy!
Plus you can use the easy applicator. Just take the balve stem out and put 4 ounces in a 26”c4” tube put stem back in pump the tire up a go for a ride.
@@mariopiazzolla9105 Yes my local Mountain Bike shop sells only "Stan's Tire Sealant" . No need for the Green slime mess on your hands and bike :)
Love your shirt! (I"m more of a WWII warbird fan but love aeronautics!)
Great video. If you already have the tannus armour inside the tire, are you able to thrown in the flat out liquid directly? Or do you need to take out the tannus armour throw in the flat out and then re-install the tannus?
Can you feel any difference with all that fluid in the tires?
I would have liked to see if the slime would have held pressure, after it sealed (just to know if it is slower to seal, but seals)?
Cheers, Tony
Ty for this, very informative i was wondering what to toss in my cyrusher tires an flatout seems legit. You saved me a bunch of 💰
This is a video that i have been wanting to see. Thanks for this
Years ago I ran Mr. Tuffy on my road bike, with 115# Clinchers. It worked great, most of the time. After thousands of miles, I flatted twice. Once was a goathead, that worked it's way thru, after a week or so. The other time, I ran over the Head of a nail. It Flipped 180° and punctured my tire thru the sidewall. A definite 'Face Palm' moment.
That flat-out was impressive! I use Ride-On for my motorcycle and wouldn't ride without it. They also have one for bicycles but I've never used it.
Great video, thanks for creating and sharing. I will be buying FlatOut tire sealant for my bikes now.
Should do another video discussing how riding with either slime or flat out is affected. Putting that much weight in your tires changes riding effort and difficulty
I have flat out in my ebike. ZERO affect to the ride ability or handling.
I also put it on a Northrock XC00, yeah no issues with ride or handling quality.
I've been wondering what is the best solution to prevent flats. I bought Slime used it twice, and it failed me both times. First time I thought maybe I didn't use enough so I measured it perfectly the second time, and I still got a flat. After reading what Flat Out uses in it's formula I can see this stuff is no joke. Just bought a big bottle... thanks to you I'm hopeful I found the right solution. Thanks again!
I've been a huge fan of Flatout for years.
Do you think that Flatout be good to use on hybrid bike tire at a pressure of 60-70psi?
That was Flat Out informative. I’ve always used Slime. Guess I’ll be changing. Hate having to pump tires up with that stuff as a little always seems to come out and make a mess. Yes, I try to spin tire so valve is high on wheel. Can’t do that with a RadWagon that has the rack and plastic shield so I’ll probably have to use my Handlebar Jacks and flip the bike just to put air in it….
Highly recommend against. Fan of the channel, and based on this vid I put it in both of my Himiway's tires, and it totally messed up the ride. You're putting liquid in the tires that flumps around with each revolution. Maybe fine for bigger vehicles, but I really regret using it on bikes based on my experience.
@@robmorrill1 Huh, never thought of that. With Slime that as he said uses less I never noticed any affect in my Mountain Bike. Now putting in twice the amount, who knows. I never used the stuff on road bike, just replace tube with a mew one of it gets a flat and if I run out of tubes on a ride I’ll patch one to keep going.
Nice demo guys. Now I might add Flat Out to My Tuffy's and be able to run a broken glass road hahaha !!! Thanks much.
I put Tannus liners on my Sondors LX and the set came with smaller inner tubes. The valve stem was loose in one of the new tubes so I had to order a valve stem tool to tighten it. So when I wheeled my bike back to its normal spot in my garage about 12 feet the tire with the tannus liner uninstalled it self in a matter of feet. That's with no 12lb battery installed or me on the bike. So for the claim you can ride it slowly flat, you can't even walk it, I'll say no.
Tannus website say No Run Flat for 4" wheels.
Very helpful! I'm running slime but will definitely pick up Flat Out for the next tubes.
Fantastic idea! You will notice a difference.
Looks like a good product. I personally like Stan’s no tube . Well made video. Very informative.
Incredible test!! Thank you very much....
It's weird that Flat Out doesn't market itself for bikes. On amazon someone asked and the seller even says: "Our product is not designed for mountain bike tires." Still, I'm getting a can for my fat tire in case FedEx ever decides to deliver it.
I carry a can of fix a flat for bikes, but since I watched Bolton's blog I'm going flat out also.
Just got mine today in LA - it ran a few days late.
@@robmorrill1 Thanks for the heads up.
@@robmorrill1 - what size are your tires? We're running 26x4 flat tires.
@@sirbrewzalot Turns out I was wrong. Please disregard above and see my reply to Kyle.
Thank you for this excellent service comparison. I will purchase from you because I trust you & want future comparisons.
I have the Tannus - haven't installed yet (lazy). I'm going to add FlatOut per your suggestion. Which order should I install? Tannus first, then FlatOut? Does it matter?
Have Tannus and love it. Put it on first; it's so thick that you'll want tube fully deflated while you lever the tire back in. One thing this video didn't discuss is that Tannus give sidewall protection. I got 6 flats in first 85 miles, put in Tannus, took 1100 miles to get a flat, and then it was a pinhole that slime could seal. That's riding trails over rocks and cactus, without a care. [EDIT: Withut a care for the tires, anyway; plenty to think about in terms of choosing a line otherwise but it's nice to have confidence in tires while doing that.].
Is flat out good for tires with tubes or is it just for tubeless tires?
I have flat out in both of my bikes - Lectric and Rad mini 4. Works just fine in tubes. Use 8 - 12 oz per tire.
What a great video 👍 thank you so much I am going to buy some flat out and install it in my tires
Your video was very informative and your assistant made it fun, also think the odds of running over anything larger then the size of a roofing nail are pretty small
Thanks for watching!
@@Area13ebikes - You should set up an Amazon link to all the products and get a commission and promote it both in the video and in the descriptions. "If you like the video and want to support this channel for more great videos, please click on the links in the description."
The problem with slime type sealants, once you get a puncture that still needs a patch, the patch never sticks properly once the slime has been around the hole- you just can't clean it away properly. Rather just get thicker tubes and patch them less often than thin ones. Bought a secondhand greenspeed with plastic liners in the slicks, they caused the thin tubes to split along the liner's edges.
Awesome, you have just saved a heap of people a lot of time and money
Good for you guys 👍👍
Our pleasure!
You have a lovely assistant.
Another very helpful video. Thanks to both of you.
Thank you. I'm Flat Out about this review!
This test is all done with fresh sealant. You should try it with the Flat Out or Stans, Orange Seal, and the like after 2 months. I live in the desert southwest and those sealants dry out. Even Stans & Orange Seal say they need replaced more frequently in hot & dry environments. To avoid this, because cleaning it out is a pain, I would rather carry your battery operated airpump and a small single use/single tire, bottle of sealant for emergencies. I also run Tannus Armour and so far not a single flat riding on desert dirt & rocket roads where normally I would have regular thorn punctures.
So I can tell you FlatOut will last longer than any of those sealants you mention. FO is the only one on your list that contains zero Latex. If you are installing in a tube, the FO will last years. Kelly with FlatOut.
thanks for videoing the tests. very helpful!
How do you prevent the valve stem being clogged by Slime or Flat Out if you're adjusting tire pressure?
You dont adjust tire pressure. You set it and forget it. If you have to do anything after that, the slime is no longer working and you need a new tube.
Great video! I've been wondering about this confusing topic. Thank you!
I think Tanis Armor with puncture proof tube is likely the best. Alternatively, Tire Liners with puncture proof tubes is great also because the Slime stuff only lasts up to two years and is messy when removed (from what I understand).
I like how your wife stands at parade rest next to you. I take it you met her while working at Beale?
Jessica is an employee of Bolton Ebikes - and a great one! My wife prefers to stay anonymous. 😀
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@@Area13ebikes very informative video and Jessica was a great addition. still waiting for my blackbirds can't wait thank's
Thanks for posting guess everyone has different opinion I work on Friends electric scooter quite a bit have had very good luck with slime
Excellent video. Very informative. Well done. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great comparison video... Question, if we already have Slim in the tub, I believe I heard that you can also add Flat Out also to the tub? Would this be OK? Thanks Dave...
I wish someone would answer this, I had the same question.
Very informative video. Thanks..! I just ordered a bottle of Flat-Out for my new E-bike
I've had over 40 bullheads in my tires since I used Flat Out and still no flat. I love this stuff.
I google searched for "bullheads". The top search results say that it's a fish.
Great test, thanks for doing it.
Our pleasure!
Mr. tuffy is my jam. Just that and some easy patches. Rarely have to use the patches, but when I do, I usually don’t even take the rim off. Way fast for my back tire
A lot of times the nail or whatever sharp item will not make it through mr tuffy. This happens because the tire is spinning and the material is so hard. I ended up getting sick of the slime and never went back
I put Slime or other tire sealant in every tire tube before I even put it on the bike. This is the first time I've heard of FlatOut. I'll have to check it out. The night before Christmas eve (2021) I was shopping and got out of the store and my back tire was flat. 26 x 4.0. They don't roll when they're flat and I was 5 miles away from home and it was in the low 20's, a little cold. Luckily I already had the sealant in the tube.
I always carry a palm sized CO2 tire inflator and a handful of cartridges in all my backpacks. I pumped it up and hit the throttle to get the sealant moving in the tube and I was off and running. That sealant was in the tire for months. The heat of summer, freezing rain, snow, all the conditions I can think of and it was there when I needed it. I haven't tried the Tuffy liners but maybe now I will. I bought a pair of the Tannus liners and I haven't tired them yet. I'm with you. The slime or something similar like FlatOut is the first, second, and third line of defense. A combination of all the other products will just add to it, and cost more. Great Video. Thanks. And Happy Holidays, Stay in motion.
Do you adjust tire pressure after treating with Flatout? Or keep what you normally run with? In my case a 26x4” thanks!
Got my first flat on my Sur Ron and just ordered this product, they should sponsor you guys, there's even a top Amazon review citing this video!
Flat out Works like a charm! Just had a flat, 3” nail I didn’t notice until this morning, nail was in top of tyre when I parked up (fat tyre Ebike) removed nail, faced hole to floor pumped up the tyre and all good.
I’ve alway run slime along with the mr tuffy combination, now I think I’ll switch to the flat out & probably keep mr tuffy being it prevents the small thorns from getting to the tube.
Do you think the combo works against goat heads 🐐 ? I ride in S.E. New Mexico and it is rare when I do not pick one up.
@@DWyn-xq4yf I think it will, most of my flats have been from goat heads and after using the combo I haven’t experience any more flats. The tire liner is thick enough and stiff enough to keep them from touching the tube, but if it did, to the slime or flat out will plug it. Probably the only vulnerable part would be the side wall but I’ve never had goat heads get in the side wall.
I walked two miles out of the woods on Sunday on my Juggernaut. Will be upgrading to Tannus and Flatout combination.
Atm, waiting on Tannus shipping from USA, new tire from the UK, and tubes from Netherlands. Bike parts are hard to come by this year.
Good video. I installed the Tannis Armour inserts about 4 months ago ( I used talcum power to help with the installation) after 4 flats on my 26x4 tires due to goat heads (thorns). So far, good results. No flats and I ride 30-50 miles per week. So, good outcome for me, and I’m confident in this product. Having to deal with the mess of changing a tire with any of the liquid tire protection products is not a great experience, and many shops will not help you out with a tire change if the know you have the liquid product in your tire. Important points ro consider.
I used FlatOut and it worked for awhile until the tire went completely flat for some reason when I left out at night. Putting air into it resulted in the sealant pushing itself into the tire and creating a gap, which pushed the tire off the rim and made a huge mess.
So on your wheelset, did you change out your oem inner tubes for more narrow ones, or just stick with the stock tubes?
After months and months of use, did you notice if the Tannus foam got compacted at all, or get squished from the pressure of the inner tube pressing against it for so long? 🤔
Stock inner tubes...Tannis is not a spray in foam or liquid. They are a rubberized insert that goes between your tire and tube. Not cheap, but I have had a very good outcome using them. D2@@OldCootProductReviews
Thank you! I was gonna do the slime, but now I'm going to get the Flatout.
He didn't mention that the $140 on the Tannus is for two liners and the two smaller tubes you will need to use depending on your application. Also on my Rad Rover they quieted the tires down substantially. People don't turn around because they think a tank is rolling up on them anymore. The roll is much smoother and softer going down the road. Oh yeah, it also stopped the freaking goat head punctures I was getting. The Slime I was using before also worked for the goat head punctures but I would have a load of little small green liquid dots on the tires next day when I got back from a ride. But it plugged/sealed them.
Just the info I was looking for.
Happy to help!
Thankyou……very informative AND interesting!
Useful and amusing video. I ordered Flat Out right after watching lol.
Good choice!
I don't care for the goo, have had multiple issues with the valve stem getting clogged and unable to add air and unable to get the valve out without soaking it in warm soapy water to dissolve it. I use tannus armour for the last thousand miles and knock on wood other then blowing out a sidewall, no flats
Just about all slime products are garbage.
curious if this happens with flatout since it remains liquid.