I know, right? In such a scenario I'm pretty sure their owner would just beat the living crap out of them. On top of that, they didn't even really achieve anything, the casino was most probably insured and it will be a minor setback in the owners wallet. Also, the animals are like, on the border of the city, they will just catch them again.
I think it was In Phantom Menace, Anakin mentions "slave chips". chips that will detonate if too far from their master. Could be that they stayed because they had such chips
@@jtparker6286 the old books written before the dark ages of Disney. Just before Lucas sold out he declared that everything written by authors other than him was non-canon.
I still can't believe how crappy and pityful Luke's death was. We've been waiting 30 years to see full power Jedi master Luke. And all we got was a Rian Johnson troll
Yep. "Kylo is fight fighting Luke omg! But he's not really there! Gotcha! Luke isn't in danger he didn't die...Oh wait! Luke dies." Damn. Just wtf are they doing?
@@lukemarriott306 I would say that was the shittiest plot device in Star Wars history, not a testiment to Luke's power. We wanted to see a full trained Jedi master in action, not just a stupid illusion followed by the nonsensical death of the most beloved character in the saga.
To be fair, they killed Han because Harrison Ford asked them to. Edit: Did not realize so many people were going to see this. Just to clarify, "To be fair" is a way of giving credit where credit is due. I don't think they did his death well, I'm only pointing out that it _was_ Harrison who wanted Han dead to begin with.
Harrison Ford wanted Solo killed off since Empire, so whatever. But yes, that was his requirement to be in the movie, was that he gets killed so they can't drag him back yet again. But with J.J. Abrams "Fuck it" attitude for episode 9, who knows WHAT THE FUCK will happen?
He CANNOT be stopped. He CANNOT be betrayed. He is all-knowing and all-powerful. And then he is basically bisected by a silly prank. Thank you, Disney, for Supreme Disappointment Snoke.
@Milan S *sigh* you clearly stated that fans complaining about something new to the table instead of having the same old story line is ironic. but it's NOT ironic, because bringing something new to the table in no way means it's going to be a good movie, I can make a new star wars movie except everyone is cats, it's really fucking new but it's complete garbage. If your suggestion isn't that different is good then What on earth is your point here?? This obviously doesn't apply to just star wars either so ???
@Milan S very well that's clearer, however I haven't heard individuals complain the same formula not being used though, (more so specific decisions within the told story like the hyperspace scene and rose and Luke etc) but our experiences are different, and I hope you enjoy IX
The worst part is that Admiral Akbar who is literally one of the greatest character from the originals and who will forever be loved by millions as a internet meme died a meaningless death and is never addressed
I respectfully disagree, Ben. They shouldn't have killed Finn. Instead, Finn should have been put off by Rose so much, that he lifts her up, and chucks her into the Laser Battering Ram in hopes it would destroy it.
@@azeller09 Technically that was determined by Einstein, doesn't mean it is true nor relevant in Star Wars. It is a mere unproven principle, like the former geocentric theory. Also it was a joke...
@@azeller09 Lightspeed in Star Wars doesn't make the ship travel at the speed of light, it takes the ship into a dimension called ''Hyperspace'', that's why it's called Hyperspace jump, because it jumps the ship into the dimension and in that dimension, distances in normal space, are less distant in the hyperspace. And the more the hyperspace generator is powerful, the more the distance is reduced, that's why the falcon is faster in hyperspace that say any other ship
@@michaelmacias8 Did you even know that he made all star wars films? Appart from that I like the prequels more thatn the OT. I find them a bit boring. The Last Jedi and Return of the Jedi are the only ones i disliked.
Noah Zbinden Did you know George Lucas also had two talented directors to make the original trilogy and that he had almost nothing to do with episode V which is hailed as one of the best movies ever made and when he got free hands to do anything he liked with insanely larger budjet all he does is garbage? Yeah funny coincidence.
Wilczur 111 it’s Anakin yoda and obi ones campfire tales. Of course obi one makes Rey more powerful than Anakin just to piss him off. Then brings the emporer back to annoy him even more.
michigan1777 lol I don't know man I freaking love that theory with jar jar is freaking awesome. The last person that you would never expect to be behind everything will be someone like jar jar I love that idea it makes sense for him being so fool and incredible lucky its a great concept.
Bart Simpson Agreed, I never really saw the problem with Jar Jar. He was far from my favorite, but I never hated him. It would explain so much if he was behind it all, and besides that, how cool would an evil Jar Jar be?
That was honestly retarded. Like, physically upset me. And right after I thought she just keeled over and died and I started laughing in the theater, it was ridiculous.
That whole sacrifice was dumb. Okay, so Finn was going to sacrifice himself to make sure the First Order couldn't get through with that cannon. Gotcha. So Rose sacrifices herself to save Finn from sacrificing himself to save everyone else, but by her sacrificing herself, she screws everyone in the process. STU-PID! I was honestly disappointed Rose lived.
I did get a Battlestar Galactica deja vu watching that, since that's essentially the plot of much of the first season of the 2004 reboot (small flotilla of survivors running out of fuel being continually tracked through faster-than-light jumps by a much larger hostile fleet bent on their extermination)
Hahahaha! I had an alternate title myself as well: In the theatre I turned to my brother and said "they should have named this "Star Wars: BUYING TIME".. during the scene at the end when Kylo and friends are advancing to breach the Mines of Moria where the Rebellion is hunkered down. When Finn, suggests they fly out to meet them and give them a fight in order to "buy them some time".. when it hit me I felt like I'd heard that line and dealt with nothing but that premise the entire fucking movie! .."buying time" sub-sub-plots within "buying time" subplots
E115 haha Yeah that must be true! So the reason Kylo Ren killed my badass player bro Snoke was that he knew that Snoke would have had his bitch Rey walking around his ship in a bunny bikini! That would have borrowed off the original storyline where Jabba the Hut had Leia in that sexy gold Victoria Secret thing
I think many people focus on dialogue and politics with the Prequels, but they were created to set up the stage for the Star Wars original trilogy. We found out how the empire emerged from the republic, what happened to the Jedi, how Vader was made, how Palpatine became an emperor, etc.
No, the worst line was the one about fighting a war not by killing, but by protecting our loved ones. I get the sentiment, but it rang EXTREMELY hollow in the universe that is about WARS and killing "the bad guys". I also can't believe that Rose, whose sister died to kill as many First Order soldiers as she could, was the one spewing this idiotic line, regardless of her being a bit of a spiritual SJW.
Disagree completely about Luke. He was completely character assassinated in this movie, he wasn't cool at all. At least Han died trying to save his son. That death had some meaning to it. Luke just died being a useless distraction.
I hyped so hard when he defended himself from all the ammunition of the enemy's army with a single lightsaber... But then when it was just a projection my enjoyment was totally wiped out.
Please hear me out. I used to utterly despise this movie until about a week ago. I still am bored by most of it, and I still wish Luke hadn't been an old hobo. I by no means think this is a great story. But 1. If ur gonna blame anyone for Luke's arc, blame JJ. He wrote Luke in Episode 7 as having been on a tiny island for six years. What was Rian supposed to do, say Luke still can't find the jedi temple on that 1-acre island? Say he's too scared to fight? This was the best Rian could do, and he has Luke redeeming himself in the end. 2. Forget most of the movie. The parts with Luke or Kylo are interesting, if u can accept Luke's arc. Then, the best part of all, is when they're together on Crait. I used to hate the Crait battle. And I still don't like the beginning of it, or Rose's awful line after crashing into Finn. But once Luke arrives, and he gets that moment with Leia. The music kicks in, he kisses his little sister on the head one last time, the music rises even more, resistance fighters lift their heads to witness THE Luke Skywalker, and with a classic John Williams theme that gives me chills, he walks out to face down the entire First Order with nothing but a laser sword. But there's a twist. One that used to piss me off. I complained, "why didn't Luke actually go to Crait?" Well, aside from the fact that he didn't actually want to kill his nephew, we also have to remember what Vader (kinda) says in the very first Star Wars: "technological terrors are insignificant next to the power of the force". Luke proceeds to straight PUNK Kylo with a clever new force ability we haven't seen before (it's good that they aren't recycling the same old things, and it's good that they didn't make it OP- using the power causes you to die). So Luke creates the spark that will light the fire that will burn the First Order down, and he did it without ever taking a single real swing, or putting anyone in danger. Aka, by going back to the Jedi's roots. The answer isn't to end the Jedi, it's to revive what they were meant to be, before they became corrupted. By not going to Crait, he didn't have to kill his nephew, the First Order didn't get ammunition for their propaganda, getting to say they killed the mighty Luke Skywalker so the galaxy might as well give up. Instead, the Resistance saw him take on the First Order and win. They saw him take a hundred blaster shots and a lightsaber through the body without getting a scratch. So while the movie was kinda boring and weird, everything with Luke, especially on Crait, is amazing, even if I'd rather the movie not exist. Since it does exist, we might as well enjoy these few brilliant scenes with our hero, Luke Skywalker, straight owning the dark side yet again. Not to mention, say what you will about his script, Rian's directing, the visuals, John Williams's music, and the acting of Mark and Adam really make these scenes beautiful. Those two actors really sell it. Adam perfectly sells Kylo being had, like he's completely befuddled. I encourage everyone to not make the same mistake I did. I was so busy feeling bad about Luke failing to rebuild the Jedi Order and being a hobo that I couldn't enjoy the great things this film had to offer, even if it was only a few. I couldn't even see the intent. I just interpreted everything in the least charitable light because of how the film started- with Luke tossing his saber. Not to mention Disney was already going to be intensely scrutinized, and we as a fan base had a bias against them, and thought they probably didn't know what they were doing. It turns out that, while that's kinda true, Rian's film is actually a lot deeper and meaningful than I previously realized. At least the stuff with Luke. Everything else is meh
People bash the prequels but they accomplished a difficult task of telling a unique back story to the original trilogy. These new films can not come up with anything unique or satisfying.
I think the prequels had great ideas but poor execution. Which from an artistic standpoint I respect more then a well shot, visually pleasing film like Last Jedi with terrible ideas but impressive visuals
@@ryanboggs8685 The sequels arent even as well shot as the prequels. Maybe from a contemporary point of view the acting is better , but even that is problematic because its not Star Wars acting. People complain about the prequel acting but it is more similar to the OT acting than the ST acting is. In TFA, the camera zips and zooms and doesn't stand still enough to display any kind of epic visuals like we got in the first six movies. The movie is just a bunch of action scenes spliced together, and there is no time for reflection and therefore no time for character development. The movie is very loud all the time, and there is no time to develop any kind of tension.
So they killed Han, Luke and Leia, Finn's character arc was negated and he reverted back into a coward, Rey turned from a marry sue into a SUPER ULTRA GOD-MOD SUE, and the movie portrayed Poe, the only sane man on the rebel's side, as a dangerous rogue that needs to be thought a lesson from Vice-admiral Gender studies. Ben solo, AKA Emo Ren is now the only half decent character on the grounds that he is the only consistent character that is faithful to the canon of how the force works, how the dark side works and how logic works. I actually root for the Villain.
Leia didn't die yet although she should of died in space because she's dead IRL. No reason to keep her alive unless they're trying to do that whole Women are the force BS. Which btw kathleen apparently made in shirts, so you know that's what it was. While Luke died when he just astral projected, meaning men are weak and just randomly drop dead or in this case spontaneously disappear. Personally I consider rogue one,solo, TFA, TLA, etc to be like bootleg spinoffs of Star Wars.
Thundernugget yeah I don't mind him dying but I don't understand why he isn't accompanied by Luke and Leia but but some people he knew like what? 20 minutes? (well and chewie, at least we got that)
The Force Awakens was really "meh". Episode 8 could've made Force Awakens better, but instead Episode 8 made EVERYTHING Worse. Good job Kathleen, you fucked up big time.
I havent watched The Last Jedi since I saw it in theaters. Same with Force Awakens. I have literally ZERO drive to watch them again either. These are a death blow to the franchise. The Prequels blow these movies away.
@Emino Just because the sequels were worse trash, doesn't somehow now make the prequels less trash. IMHO, Star Wars is not an action movie series, it is a sci-fi fantasy drama. Drama is about character development thru a plot. The prequels advanced characters without showing the viewer. The sequels didn't bother to do any development.
How to make Finn a better character. They should have never made him a janitor (which apparently was for comedy) instead a trooper who had killed Innocents (have him murder villagers in the force awakens) and he has this journey of pushing himself harder than any other rebel because he wants to atone for his atrocities. Later on through the trilogy if someone ever asked him if he feels he has atoned, he would tell them that no, that no matter how many people he saves, he still sees the villagers he killed in his nightmares, and he now knows he can never atone for what he did. A character that gritty and conflicted would have been far better, add some comedy SOMETIMES but keep him mainly a soldier who will forever seek to forgive himself, but may never achieve that. I really feel he was wasted for the sake of comedy.
A lot of roles are already stereotyped, almost every archtype of character has been made, however the important part is HOW is made. That path of atonement would have been much better
What I was expecting from last Jedi before release was that Rey joined Kylo and Finn ended up being the last Jedi. Would've made for a decent change of pace if written correctly but 'meh'
I really only learned the details about the Jar Jar sith lord theory about 2 hours ago, and I just realized that it would've been the new version of Darth Vader is Luke's father for me. I was in the age group that thought Jar Jar Binks was legitimately funny when TPM came out, so I actually liked his character to some degree. I am now depressed that I never got to feel that emotional pay off that was potentially being set up.
Aaron Scoggins yeah it kinda of is we didn’t even know leia was force sensitive and in the prequels many Jedi masters couldn’t survive in space and if you wanna go into physics dropping bombs in space 😂
I only liked episode 3 when I first watched them but after all these years, and especially after having seen the Disney Star Wars crap, I now realize that episodes 1 and 2 weren't that bad after all. I mean, there was SOMETHING in those movies, there was some soul in them with a cogent plot and story and it definitely enhanced the Star Wars story as a whole. The dialogue was bad and some scenes were annoying, especially those with Jar Jar Binks, but as a whole they enhanced the story in the originals. The Disney movies on the other hand, bring absolutely nothing to the table, they're creatively bankrupt with some wokeness sprinkled on it. I'd take the worst parts of the prequels over anything in the sequels.
Hindsight right. I didn't think they were horribad when I originally saw them, however, looking back now comparing the new SW movies (Other than Rogue One) the pre-sequel was considerably better than it was giving credit.
I don't think that Luke ends up looking "cool" in this movie. I mean, the same guy who saw kindness in Darth Vader (one of the most ruthless and evil Siths of all time) didn't see it in Kylo Ren, who has nothing but conflict in his mind?
Rogue One was the only decent “new” Star Wars movie. There was genuine sacrifice for something important. I was uplifted even through the “sad”end.. because it meant something. It had a moral core that is completely absent from the other new movies
If you haven't found Plinkett's reviews of SW: TPM, AOTC and ROTS, go henceforth to Red Letter Media channel, and learn. I always felt there was few things off in Phantom Menace, and RLM put his finger exactly on why. His reviews are so funny, they are more entertaining to watch, than the actual prequels themselves. As a whole, I used to think the prequels were "okay" but after being educated by Plinkett, I have utterly no desire to watch them again.
Maul wasn't depicted as anything other than an expendable apprentice as was the old dude, that was the point of the trilogy, anakin taking their spot alongside the emperor by the end. Good or bad movies asides their was a point to it all. Snoke ended up having no point and no explanation. Was he the sith master, episode 7 built him up as a main plot point only to be nothing. Absolutely horrible trilogy.
@Noob S. Yeah, I hated the way they tore down everything that Luke developed into over the original trilogy. . . that's my least favorite thing about the sequels
The build up to Kylo killing Han and the implied repercussions afterwards were completely non existent in TLJ. Han might as well not have existed in the first place.
That was the plan. Disney is slowly erasing the originals from our minds, bringing back old characters as crappy versions of what they used to be si their characters dont seem as wimpy. Luke is a child murdering cowardly asshole, Han is a dead beat dad, Leia is superman now, R2 is a living in-joke, and C3P0... well he isnt in the movie much anyways.
This is from TFA when Han and Finn land on Starkiller base. It was extremely racist, but no one called out Disney and J.J. Double standards in Hollywood. Further, there are great female leads in other SW properties, but Ep. 8 did nothing to further Daisy’s character. We don’t really connect with her fears and hopes.
Part of Star Wars is about how people who seem to live ordinary lives, lives going nowhere, can suddenly be thrust into situations where they become more than what they thought they could be. Finn being a janitor isn't about being racist, it's about his humble beginnings... a janitor who would become a hero. Unfortunately, they haven't handled his character well. They could have done a lot more with him.
The biggest plot hole: The most important task for the Resistance to accomplish in The Force Awakens is to complete the map Luke Skywalker left to find him. Now in The Last Jedi Rey uses the completed map and Luke tells her to basically piss off. If Luke wanted to be left alone why the hell did he leave a map! Its stupid and lazy story telling.
brandondalew put his potential made him stronger. In the last jedi books vader said himself that luke was stronger than Anakin. Luke only won because vader was conflicted.
Because they used BB-8 he took down more bad guys than the rest of the cast lol and for what to sell BB-8 toys I mean I don’t mind I love BB-8 but yeah they don’t care much about the old characters
yeah bb8 is such an r2 rip off, the new movies pay terrible homage to original characters... they paint the old characters in a bad light, which totally discredits the original movies
Anybody think a knights of the old republic TV series would be cool ? (live action) Revan, Bastilla, darth Nihilus etc... would be awesome if done right, obviously not by Disney though.
I'd love to see an old Republic movie with the rise of the sith... I'd rather see the sith lords I think it was actaully a better story... And kera was a very interesting character!
The biggest problem I had with the movie is that we never got to see Luke fight before he died. We know from the lore that Luke is supposedly one of THE most powerful jedi to ever exist, but we didn't get to see the beast unleashed. It's such a fucking shame
kthxbai well he kinda fights as a force projection, but yeah all I really wanted, putting aside logic, plot-holes and nitpicks was to see a really good internal conflict and resolving battle involving Luke, Rey, Snoke and Kylo Ren. Just to see the four of them just throw down would have been so satisfying.
@@electro_yellow9295 Patrick is being sarcastic. He means that's what the people who made the character would say. Obviously there is no how. Simply a stupid character
na she was there beause TFA was doing bad in Asia. That's also why in the beginning we see her sister and this stupid yin yang-chain, only for the asian market and maybe SJW-matters but mostly for the merchandise.
You were on point until you said the Last Jedi was better than the force Awakens. At least the Force awakens had a plot and created anticipation for a sequel. The last Jedi single handedly destroyed a franchise where its affects were felt throughout the galaxy.
As I was watching The Force Awakens, I was utterly appalled. I don't know why I'm the only one I know who hated it so much, but I feel as though the plot was extremely rushed, and everything meant nothing. One of my least favorite films to date.
C'mon, Last Jedi was fantastic, I think the scene with Ray and Kylo after they kill snoke and the guards is probably one of the top 3 finest moments in Star Wars, when Kylo puts out his hand and asks ray to join him the emotional impact of the scene is only equaled by "Luke, I am your father." In some senses the emotional impact of the Kylo and Ray saga is greater because we really don't know that much about Darth Vader in episode 5 so the "I am your father" scene is really only powerful because of Luke's journey, however the Ray Kylo scene is a pivotal point for BOTH Ray and Kylo, who, together with luke, form the core of the Sequel trilogy.
They're both trash. TFA was a scene for scene lower quality rehash of A New hope, replacing the every day man Luke with a Mary sue. The plot points are incoherently connected, their only worry was to evoke nostalgia for episode 4. TLJ, was the work of an egomaniac that decided to shit on everything Star Wars had been up until then, an incoherent mess THAT STILL was a rehash of episodes 5-6. Both are creative failures and it's no wonder that everything Star Wars has been trending down since TLJ came out.
You can't just slap 'Star Wars' on a movie and expect it to be great. The originals were great movies because they were great not because they were Star Wars. There is nothing intrinsically great about the Star Wars universe.
Scott Humphreys that's very vague..i believe they where good movies because they were unique and interesting. The concept in the beginning won people over. Today it's the continuation, characters and story along with the iconic Star Wars brand that keeps it relevant. This movie only had the name. The story, characters and plot holes destroyed this film.
Thinking back on Yoda's description of the dark side "Quicker, easier, more seductive." That's Rey's journey in a nutshell. No training, no hard work, she just gets uber powers. That's the dark side.
Anakin states that he had been in pod races before, just never finished one. We can infer that he has had some training (most likely self taught) and that he has experience pod racing. Additionally his connection to the force simply gave him quicker reflexes in piloting the craft, it doesn't equate to Rey being able to use force powers in a day that took Anakin, Luke and all other force users years to learn
We've rarely seen what people connected to the Force can do at their earliest stages. Luke could see the Marksman-H combat remote without any vision, just by some basic "feedback" from Obi-Wan. Same thing with Rey, she could see things by some basic "feedback" from Luke, but she could not control it - at all.
I respectfully disagree. Luke blocking shots from the combat drone with help from a Master is shown to be a basic exercise for younglings, his only other use of the force in the first movie was enhanced perception and reflexes while piloting in order to destroy the deathstar. He doesn't showcase his ability to force pull his saber(poorly) until the second movie set 2-3 years after the first, the jedi mind trick in the third movie set 4-5 years after the first and after grueling training with Yoda. Rey displays force pull(against a more well trained opponent) and the mind trick on her first day, as well as beating a highly trained opponent with a lightsaber with absolutely no training for any of it(Pre-meeting Luke). The dark side = Quicker, faster, etc. That's Rey, she hasn't earned anything.
Which is why I'm surprised she didn't turn. It was like the writers just don't know how to write co.pelling character arcs. Girl don't even get me started
Sidharth Eleswarapu yea, I think a lot of people hated it just because it was a prequel. I certainly did not like the first two prequels that much, as I just didn’t like the boring politics in TPM, and I didn’t like the awkwardness in AOTC either. However, Revenge of the Sith is my favorite Star Wars movie, as it does very well in a lot of categories
SJW brainwashing aside, this was just a poorly written story. So many plotholes, loose threads from TFA, poor character development, story lines that went nowhere. But their worst sin was how they treated Luke. LUKE SKYWALKER....got down on his hands and knees....and drank titty milk from an alien walrus....I usually make fun of people that say "muuuhhh this ruined my childhood!" but God damn, this came close.
The fact that some characters are iconic to us, doesnt mean that the story has to give them a special treatment...reading all this comments make me realize that all what this fans wanted from this movie is fan service..just like in Rogue One (poorly character developed movie by the way) but..it has Vader slaying rebels... so who cares...the movie rules ! ...pathetic.
Javier: No, I didn't want fan service; just a good movie with a compelling story. They should leave the deconstruction to Family Guy. There's no reason Disney has to deconstruct Star Wars.
I could have written Episode 8 better in my sleep. I would: *Have had the "bombers" fire warheads that didn't go "down" in space *Had Leia killed in that explosion so: -They wouldn't need to explain how she died an inconsequential death between episodes 8 & 9, -They won't bring her back with poorly done CGI like they did in Rogue One with Tarkin and Leia -Her death would have a huge impact on Kylo Ren's emotional state and force alignment *Make Luke Skywalker the same character as he did in the Trilogy: -I would use a similar backstory for Kylo Ren that was used for Desann and Jacen Solo. Make Ben Solo/Kylo Ren someone who believed that the ends justified the means like Jacen/Darth Caedus -Instead of Luke trying to kill him in his sleep let Kylo Ren be disillusioned with the NJO like Jacen, then Luke and the NJO try and confront him for fear that without their guidance Kylo may turn into a dark jedi. There could be a confrontation from an argument escalating into a fight between Kylo and his friends vs Luke and the Jedi loyal to him, leading in the Jedi's defeat and Kylo and his followers joining the First Order *Remove any crap slapstick attempts at humor such as the Poe mocking Hux and Finn being reduced to comic-relief instead of being a serious character. -Make Finn have a more serious demeanor and relevant to the story *Get rid of Rose and the whole idiotic forced love-interest side story *Have the final battle take place on an environment we haven't explored yet that isn't too similar to the battle of Hoth (they show it's salt and not snow so people can't easily say TLJ isn't a ripoff of ESB) -I would have had the battle take place on a city planet like Trais or Fondor, or maybe even on Manaan, Jabiim, Nal Hutta, or Dac (Mon Cal) *Had Luke translate Chewie instead of Rey. In fact I would have allowed her to have some flaws (not personality flaws, she already has enough of those) so she's not a complete Mary Sue that could just win the whole damn war on her own with minimal help. *Make Holdo turn out to be an undercover agent of the First Order, but cover up the reason she withheld her plan from her subordinates. I think it would explain a lot. *No porgs. *Luke Skywalker not being shown milking that damn cow thing.
I don't want to be rude but: I think you would not have done it better. You just take out everything that is considered bad by public opinion and having it replaced by legends ideas or left out how to handle it. Even though you made some good points you did not explain how to do the rest. Take the rest how it is? Then it is 90% of Rian Johnson's script. How would you make these 90%? I think that if you started writing the first scene you would realize that it is extremely difficult. Yes, the movie had its flaws but it also had some good parts.
Noah Zbinden After thinking about it, if I wrote Episode 8 it would be fundamentally different from Johnson's script. I meant to say even Johnson's version of E8 could have been less hard to watch if he made it the way I said. If I wrote episode 8 I would try to be as original as possible, except maybe have Luke training Rey the way Yoda trained him with Rey going through character development to overcome her arrogance. And instead of Luke being a defeatist loser, have him be open-minded, optimistic, and maybe unorthodox. Also you claimed "considered bad by public opinion". Are you trying to tell me what I did or didn't like about the movie?
Aye. And my vode coming in and killing the fucks WO approved this shit. (Voh-day. Means brothers in Mando'a.) I would pay to see Mandalorian kill all of the libs. I'm usually not this fanatic. I'm just PISSED!!!!!
Nolan Beck That would’ve been a great ending. I kinda thought that was gonna happen in the whole Rey and Kylo fight scene. That scene was still great though.
George Lucas' Episodes 1, 2 & 3 are awesome. They have incredible world-building and awesome characters. Revenge of The Sith is especially fantastic, arguably the best in the franchise.
@@yp8152 I like when ‘fans’ use the, “I hate sand” line to support their hatred for episode 2 because it shows your lack of knowledge about the franchise and its characters. Why do you think Anakin hates sand?
The scene where Rey and Kylo team up has a few fatal choreographical mistakes. For example the dude who splits his weapon into two daggers gets Rey in a hold where he could stab her in the back with his dagger and Rey can do nothing about it. But they just edit his dagger out so I guess he stuffed his dagger up his ass since he doesnt have it anymore
Not to mention that Rey is also "super good" at fighting vs all these different weapons, and has no problems defeating these "royal guards". Stupidly boring
That's hilarious because I watched a review of that fight scene and they didn't even mention that one! That means there is more than one way that they would have killed the "jedi/sith" in that scene, a second part is that the staff fighter behind Rey is about to make contact with her head with her back turned and instead of re shooting the entire scene since it was horribly choreographed they instead have him swing the staff in an arc motion from making direct contact with her head to over two feet ABOVE her head, rather than making her duck. Utter trash, what do you mean best scene, it felt as slow and clunky as A new hope's scene with Obi-Wan and Darth Vader. Nowhere near the speed or intensity of the last fight scene in Revenge of the Sith.
Mason Palframan Yeah that's the second big flaw I saw. Plus it has a few strikes that aim at the weapon of the enemy (be it either rey/kylo or some of the royal guard) instead of the person. In a battle you arent fighting against a sword you are figthing person so dont aim for the sword aim for them
Luke needed training because he's a man. Rey is a wahmen so she didn't. Only Admiral Holdo could think to use her ship as a lightspeed weapon because shes a wahmen. Men couldn't do it.
No this is wrong any main character in the sw franchise was op Luke:Blows up the Death Star when he is just a farmer.Anakin:Is the first human pod racer kills a high level Jedi.Obi wan:He is fucking obi wan:Rey also had training with a staff.In the tfa Kylo is hurt physically and emotionally.
Both Anakin and Luke were trained more than swinging a light saber at a rock for a day (Anakin was also trained for YEARS), training in a staff is different than a light saber because 1. A light saber is closer to a sword 2. A light saber has no weight to it's blade. Rey is a MARY SUE
@@Kimtron142 That doesn't mean it's heavy, she said "That's heavier than I thought" she probably thought it was heavy as a light stick but in the HANDLE not the blade their is more weight then you think with all the electronics and crystal the BLADE weighs very little because it is just plasma which is very light, people assume a light saber in Star Wars weigh 2.2 pounds but 99.9% of that weight is from the HANDLE not the BLADE
Nah more like Sooooooooo 8&9 were a dream. Luke actually comes to the rescue because that's like what he has been doing the whole time. Han Solo wounded decided to retire, kilo stopped by Luke at the end of 8 and showed how much of a badass he was. Snoke tricked everyone by sending a clone in his place at the throne room and is actually alive. Luke fires Rose for friendly fire. Remaining Resistance and First order prepare for a final showdown.
"Han just gets stabbed through the belly and thrown down another one of these incessant mine shafts that seem to be everywhere in the Star Wars universe."
They killed off Han Solo at the request of Harrison Ford, who refused to return as Han unless they killed him off because he felt that the character had seen the end of his arc. He initially wanted to have Han die in Empire Strikes Back, but that obviously didn't happen.
I also thought that they had the perfect opportunity to kill off Leia, seriously, Mark Hamill is alive, Carrie Fisher is dead, WHY WOULD YOU KILL OFF A CHARACTER WITH A PURPOSE AND A LIVING ACTOR OVER A CHARACTER THAT HAS A DEAD ACTRESS AND A SCENE THAT COULD EASILY BE USED AS A DEATH SCENE THAT WOULD PERFECTLY HELP BUILD UP ONE OF THE MAIN CONFLICTS IN THE FILM!?!? Also, it looked so fake when she was using the force to pull herself inside, seriously, it was awful, I don't know what happened. I didn't actually hate the movie, but, those two things really bothered me. Also the space cow, why was there a space cow?
The Skeptical Christian, I think they had already filmed the movie before Carrie Fisher had died so if they had wanted to switch Holdo with Leia they would've had to do some expensive re-shooting of various scenes where Leia was present afterwards.
+Milan Donhowe I do understand that for many reasons, such as that and honoring Carrie's memory, they would not want to re-shoot, but it just doesn't make sense to obviously imply that a character would have a major role in the next film when they cannot return due to the death of said character's actress. It just seemed like an odd decision to me. Thanks for bringing that up though, it's a good point.
I agree that Rose sucks and has no purpose. But Jar Jar's purpose was to give all power to the emperor, okeeday. Jar Jar was the cause of the rise of the empire! Without Jar Jar giving all power to the emperor, Darth Vader would never have existed. Okeeday?
Marketing at its finest. When you see a commercial for a Big Mac at McDonald’s, when you go buy it, it never looks like the advertisement does it? It’s all a manipulation of our collective expectations
Benthegamer - Also why is fuel a problem now? Yes, that was so stupid. Think about it, in space you really only need fuel to get yourself moving at first, and to slow down, or change course, once you have momentum, that ship can go on forever without stopping unless it runs into something. There is nothing in space to slow it down like there is for an airplane on Earth. Like the deep space probes such as Voyager that we sent out into space, there is nothing to cause them to stop, unless they run into something or enter a planet's gravitational pull. We did not give Voyage an unlimited fuel supply, it is not needed. No space craft even the primitive ones we use needs fuel to keep moving in space once it get's going. As long as they do not try to slow down or make a lot of course corrections, they could go on for eternity.
Well, if you look into the books regarding technology, fuel has always been a crucial component of starships. It's just something that we are likely to take for granted in Star Wars, just because it is ususally in abundance, much like rations, or electricity.
Every decision they could make in this movie was one step away from being awesome, and yet they failed every single one of those decision and it turned out shit.
the fact that they had Chewie get all timid and guilty when the porgs were staring at him about to eat one was the first sign to me. I expected him to just chow down and the porgs look on in horror and that be the joke (cuz that would have been fucking golden), but they went and made AN ENOURMOUS, FEROCIOUS BIGFOOT MAN get done in by what was really just puppy dog eyes. Are you kidding me? That's such garbage
It would have been completely fine if they left the jokes to Poe and Poe alone. The fact that every single character is acting like it's an open mic night was ridiculous
George Lucas had no intention of them continuing the films, he said in 2005 that there would be some off shoots but the Skywalker legacy was over. The mistake they made was trying to continue an already complete story. They should have gone to the past. Rogue One was amazing.
This is rumors but the story continues as a post skywalker series like a soap opera to finish the saga what he wrote. But after revenge of the sith he went dark and didnt want to touch another movie a make a new one. One of the reasons because of the fans. Would be nice he publishes it as books... As im curious what he wrote.
To this day I feel bad that nothing was explored about Finn or Poe and even Rey’s back story wasn’t built up correctly. Wish Disney would’ve had a solid plan for the trilogy instead of throwing stuff in as they were on a time limit to shoot the films
Rose can find redemption in 9 (She is all right, but 9 could also push her into trash tier) Jar jar is impossible to save (unless Disney dusts off the darth darth binks theory)
Now that two almost 4 years have passed with your final thoughts being they killed the Star Wars universe. What are your thoughts on The Mandalorian? I'm loving it.
And now thanks to woke and cancel culture The Mandalorian has been ruined for me. I cannot in good faith support a company that acts like they do and have cancelled my Disney Plus subscription. Gina Carano did not deserve losing a job she loved and being cancelled on every other front. I WILL however be supporting the movie she makes here in any way I can.
John Brown the Abolitionist 1st Trump won the election literally with memes because the left can't meme and is no fun. 2nd, talking about abolition then you should be on the right as Trump just signed a historic executive order declaring war on modern day slavery and human trafficking and got over 4,000 sealed indictments ready to go. Along with reducing the power of the federal government it seems your values dont represent your affiliation.
They saved the animals, but they left the kids as slaves. F Logic.
I know, right? In such a scenario I'm pretty sure their owner would just beat the living crap out of them. On top of that, they didn't even really achieve anything, the casino was most probably insured and it will be a minor setback in the owners wallet. Also, the animals are like, on the border of the city, they will just catch them again.
But, what could they have done in that situation about it? The animals were freed because they had the option to do so. So F your logic.
You are boring.
I think it was In Phantom Menace, Anakin mentions "slave chips". chips that will detonate if too far from their master. Could be that they stayed because they had such chips
barlogpl Let’s be honest, the animals were cuter.
Hamill tried warning us before it released
The way they treated his character was a disgrace: ruclips.net/video/zMFj6BOJfpU/видео.htmlm22s
nice pic, great album
@Wade "legends" will always be canon in my mind
Michael Lorah what is legends
@@jtparker6286 the old books written before the dark ages of Disney. Just before Lucas sold out he declared that everything written by authors other than him was non-canon.
I still can't believe how crappy and pityful Luke's death was. We've been waiting 30 years to see full power Jedi master Luke. And all we got was a Rian Johnson troll
Yep. "Kylo is fight fighting Luke omg! But he's not really there! Gotcha! Luke isn't in danger he didn't die...Oh wait! Luke dies." Damn. Just wtf are they doing?
Trash movie.
Karim K Well, I guess it has subverted our expectations. I did NOT expect a death that shitty. Well done Rian.
He projected himself across the entire galaxy, that's something not even yoda couldn't do, I would say that's pretty powerful.
@@lukemarriott306 I would say that was the shittiest plot device in Star Wars history, not a testiment to Luke's power.
We wanted to see a full trained Jedi master in action, not just a stupid illusion followed by the nonsensical death of the most beloved character in the saga.
My biggest disappointment was seeing that Rose survived at the end of the movie.
I desperately wanted to write a fan fiction where Finn threw her into the laser thing so as to block it.
@@notalawyer9824 please do and send it to me
Spytedd Uchiha do it
everyone should have died and just ended Star Wars
@@notalawyer9824 bahahahahahaha damn savage
To be fair, they killed Han because Harrison Ford asked them to.
Edit: Did not realize so many people were going to see this. Just to clarify, "To be fair" is a way of giving credit where credit is due. I don't think they did his death well, I'm only pointing out that it _was_ Harrison who wanted Han dead to begin with.
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@djhavok101 I mean he is Han Solo.. kind of a cocky jackass but dead beat dad?? Hell no!! The REAL Han Solo would NEVER do that
Master Syrus Jar'Korik lmao he’s been asking it since the production of return of the Jedi.
He be: “just kill me already”
For so many years
Harrison Ford wanted Solo killed off since Empire, so whatever. But yes, that was his requirement to be in the movie, was that he gets killed so they can't drag him back yet again. But with J.J. Abrams "Fuck it" attitude for episode 9, who knows WHAT THE FUCK will happen?
Probably because Ford knew that the next movies were gonna be way worse so he thought death was a mercy for Han.
He CANNOT be stopped. He CANNOT be betrayed. He is all-knowing and all-powerful. And then he is basically bisected by a silly prank. Thank you, Disney, for Supreme Disappointment Snoke.
I was so shocked by the stupidity of this scene.
@Milan S just because you bring something new doesn't make it good, that's a pretty retarded argument there Milan. Try again...
Well yeah, but there is a theory, that Snoke let Kylo kill him on purpose. At least I hope there is some sort of explanation to this "turn" of events.
@Milan S *sigh* you clearly stated that fans complaining about something new to the table instead of having the same old story line is ironic. but it's NOT ironic, because bringing something new to the table in no way means it's going to be a good movie, I can make a new star wars movie except everyone is cats, it's really fucking new but it's complete garbage. If your suggestion isn't that different is good then What on earth is your point here?? This obviously doesn't apply to just star wars either so ???
@Milan S very well that's clearer, however I haven't heard individuals complain the same formula not being used though, (more so specific decisions within the told story like the hyperspace scene and rose and Luke etc) but our experiences are different, and I hope you enjoy IX
The worst part is that Admiral Akbar who is literally one of the greatest character from the originals and who will forever be loved by millions as a internet meme died a meaningless death and is never addressed
"One of the greatest characters"
Lol fuck off mate.
Haha shoot man cant a guy have an opinion without getting cussed at? Admiral Akbar is a legend and a lot of other people would agree with me
It should have been him who rammed the first order's ships.
If he had to die that is definitely how I would have wanted it. Flames and glory
guess it took him too long to see it was a trap as usual
I respectfully disagree, Ben. They shouldn't have killed Finn.
Instead, Finn should have been put off by Rose so much, that he lifts her up, and chucks her into the Laser Battering Ram in hopes it would destroy it.
It was made for character development.
@@darkwolf4434 it was made for liberal virtue signaling
Bro, i agree, however the way they use him so poorly in ROS make Finn should just die lol
Excellent move, it'll save the galaxy from coronavirus at least
Rose is the Jarjar. Annoying and useless.
"That's no moon!"
Han crashes millennium falcon through death star at light speed
*Credits Roll*
actually that could work since the tractor beam plus light speed so its extra speed toward it.
Light speed = 300million m/s
Tractor beam = 30 m/s
Yeah, good thing we had the extra 30 m/s for maximum speed
@@BlackDiamond2718 doesnt matter, light speed is the speed limit
@@azeller09 Technically that was determined by Einstein, doesn't mean it is true nor relevant in Star Wars. It is a mere unproven principle, like the former geocentric theory. Also it was a joke...
@@azeller09 Lightspeed in Star Wars doesn't make the ship travel at the speed of light, it takes the ship into a dimension called ''Hyperspace'', that's why it's called Hyperspace jump, because it jumps the ship into the dimension and in that dimension, distances in normal space, are less distant in the hyperspace. And the more the hyperspace generator is powerful, the more the distance is reduced, that's why the falcon is faster in hyperspace that say any other ship
Phasma could have been cool but they wasted her.
Frig off ricky
Complete waste of brianne of tarth
they snoked her
I feel bad for Gwendoline Christie. What a waste of a talented actress.
+riner9 I expect she isn't dead, anymore than she was at the end of ep 7.
_"Help me George Lucas, you are my only hope."_
Ajay Ghale why would you ask the person who raped your childhood for help??
@@michaelmacias8 Did you even know that he made all star wars films? Appart from that I like the prequels more thatn the OT. I find them a bit boring. The Last Jedi and Return of the Jedi are the only ones i disliked.
Sadly ur actually right😂😂
@@freetobeme3943 The Senate is in episode 6
Noah Zbinden Did you know George Lucas also had two talented directors to make the original trilogy and that he had almost nothing to do with episode V which is hailed as one of the best movies ever made and when he got free hands to do anything he liked with insanely larger budjet all he does is garbage? Yeah funny coincidence.
I know Im late, but sequel trilogy doesnt exist as canon for me. Its like someone made a fanfic of what happend after episode 6.
100%. Disney's sequel trilogy never happened.
Yeah, while shit faced drunk no less
@@no_biggie_smalls and rouge one
Wilczur 111 it’s Anakin yoda and obi ones campfire tales. Of course obi one makes Rey more powerful than Anakin just to piss him off. Then brings the emporer back to annoy him even more.
@@emilioaramalvarado3402 The prequels????
Jar jar is more useful than rose...
And? That makes him worse. At least you can ignore Rose.
Darth Jar Jar you mean
Bart Simpson aka dar dar
michigan1777 lol I don't know man I freaking love that theory with jar jar is freaking awesome. The last person that you would never expect to be behind everything will be someone like jar jar I love that idea it makes sense for him being so fool and incredible lucky its a great concept.
Bart Simpson Agreed, I never really saw the problem with Jar Jar. He was far from my favorite, but I never hated him. It would explain so much if he was behind it all, and besides that, how cool would an evil Jar Jar be?
"That's how we're gonna win, by saving the ones we love, not killing the ones we hate," Rose
War doesn't work like that, sister.
Noah Rush that was so freaking cheesy
That was honestly retarded. Like, physically upset me. And right after I thought she just keeled over and died and I started laughing in the theater, it was ridiculous.
That whole sacrifice was dumb. Okay, so Finn was going to sacrifice himself to make sure the First Order couldn't get through with that cannon. Gotcha. So Rose sacrifices herself to save Finn from sacrificing himself to save everyone else, but by her sacrificing herself, she screws everyone in the process. STU-PID! I was honestly disappointed Rose lived.
It's how a feminist probably thinks though
"....saving the ones we love that's how we'll win" meanwhile in the backround a giant laser is about to blow through the door.
20min Video
and 17min was abt why its bad
3 min was abt good things
I still think 3 min is too long
My thoughts exactly. XD
3 seconds is too long.
hahahahahahahaha
*YES* this guy gets it
If you ever listen to when he does “Things I like” and “Things I Hate”, the ratio is almost the exact same
he's not even right about the throne room. it was poorly executed. maybe in theory it's the best.
If Shapiro thinks The Last Jedi is bad he's going to lose it when he sees the Rise of Skywalker.
Justafan 17 he actually likes that movie more than the others
RimaWatch Khadeir very weird
Amir Khadeir he likes it because it clears up a lot of confusion about the first 2 and attempts to make up for it
Unspecified X it clears up nothing tho
Adam Mulhall it shits on Rian Johnson
Snoke: Raw untamed power
Ben: cough cough cough
That had me crying laughing 😭 🤣 😂 😆
Lmfao
Plot of the movie was “were running out of gas” who the fuck pitched that idea and who ran with it
I did get a Battlestar Galactica deja vu watching that, since that's essentially the plot of much of the first season of the 2004 reboot (small flotilla of survivors running out of fuel being continually tracked through faster-than-light jumps by a much larger hostile fleet bent on their extermination)
Plot of a new hope was "blow up the big ship"
Actually the plot was "resistance need a new base"
Well when you can escape them in hyperspace what are you going to do?
Hahahaha! I had an alternate title myself as well: In the theatre I turned to my brother and said "they should have named this "Star Wars: BUYING TIME".. during the scene at the end when Kylo and friends are advancing to breach the Mines of Moria where the Rebellion is hunkered down. When Finn, suggests they fly out to meet them and give them a fight in order to "buy them some time".. when it hit me I felt like I'd heard that line and dealt with nothing but that premise the entire fucking movie! .."buying time" sub-sub-plots within "buying time" subplots
Snoke dresses like Hugh Hefner
Well, it was based on his style
That was Hugh Hefner Brah
He looked like him too
What an underwhelming, boring character design.. where is the creativity???
E115 haha Yeah that must be true! So the reason Kylo Ren killed my badass player bro Snoke was that he knew that Snoke would have had his bitch Rey walking around his ship in a bunny bikini! That would have borrowed off the original storyline where Jabba the Hut had Leia in that sexy gold Victoria Secret thing
Revenge of the Sith was one of the best tho
The best one
The only thing I liked about “Phantom Menace” was that final Darth Maul fight and on “Attack of the Clones” the Yoda v. Count Dooku
I think many people focus on dialogue and politics with the Prequels, but they were created to set up the stage for the Star Wars original trilogy. We found out how the empire emerged from the republic, what happened to the Jedi, how Vader was made, how Palpatine became an emperor, etc.
Still garbage
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No, the worst line was the one about fighting a war not by killing, but by protecting our loved ones. I get the sentiment, but it rang EXTREMELY hollow in the universe that is about WARS and killing "the bad guys". I also can't believe that Rose, whose sister died to kill as many First Order soldiers as she could, was the one spewing this idiotic line, regardless of her being a bit of a spiritual SJW.
Nie Wesoła THATS LIKE THE WALKING DEAD ALL OUT WAR WHERE RICK DECIDES HIS DUMB ASS DOESNT WANT TO KILL
Up All Night , the heroes in " The Walking dead" are the only real zombies. They infect everyone within a 3 mile radius.
Nie Wesoła yes! Worst line in the movie.
We win "by saving the ones we love." Spoken as the First Order is now able to blow open that bunker and potentially slaughter the ones they love.
You know it's a line written by a SJW when the hypocrisy is unbearable.
I'd rather have Jar Jar back than have a character like Rose.
I Love Rose...Jack, I'm Flying
bring darth jar jar into this.
Me too rather have jar jar back
That soul crushing moment moment... When fans who absolutely detest Jar-Jar Binks' character, would rather see him re-appear than 'your' character.
Jar jar is the best side character
Disagree completely about Luke. He was completely character assassinated in this movie, he wasn't cool at all. At least Han died trying to save his son. That death had some meaning to it. Luke just died being a useless distraction.
I hyped so hard when he defended himself from all the ammunition of the enemy's army with a single lightsaber... But then when it was just a projection my enjoyment was totally wiped out.
Han's death was a sick joke too. He was basically just used to power-level a newb.
Luke's always been a whining bitch though, he was always tempted by the dark side.
@Stoneryoda 937 oh i aslo remember that brat attitude scene at the start of the trilogy before Luke even experience all the good stuff.
Not only that, the Luke Kylo dialogue makes no sense.
I'd rather sit through a jar jar trilogy than even contemplate watching the fkng last jedi ever again.
It amazes me how much people hate this movie.
Tbh, I like Jar Jar, so I completely agree, lol
Please hear me out. I used to utterly despise this movie until about a week ago. I still am bored by most of it, and I still wish Luke hadn't been an old hobo. I by no means think this is a great story. But
1. If ur gonna blame anyone for Luke's arc, blame JJ. He wrote Luke in Episode 7 as having been on a tiny island for six years. What was Rian supposed to do, say Luke still can't find the jedi temple on that 1-acre island? Say he's too scared to fight? This was the best Rian could do, and he has Luke redeeming himself in the end.
2. Forget most of the movie. The parts with Luke or Kylo are interesting, if u can accept Luke's arc. Then, the best part of all, is when they're together on Crait. I used to hate the Crait battle. And I still don't like the beginning of it, or Rose's awful line after crashing into Finn. But once Luke arrives, and he gets that moment with Leia. The music kicks in, he kisses his little sister on the head one last time, the music rises even more, resistance fighters lift their heads to witness THE Luke Skywalker, and with a classic John Williams theme that gives me chills, he walks out to face down the entire First Order with nothing but a laser sword. But there's a twist. One that used to piss me off. I complained, "why didn't Luke actually go to Crait?" Well, aside from the fact that he didn't actually want to kill his nephew, we also have to remember what Vader (kinda) says in the very first Star Wars: "technological terrors are insignificant next to the power of the force". Luke proceeds to straight PUNK Kylo with a clever new force ability we haven't seen before (it's good that they aren't recycling the same old things, and it's good that they didn't make it OP- using the power causes you to die).
So Luke creates the spark that will light the fire that will burn the First Order down, and he did it without ever taking a single real swing, or putting anyone in danger. Aka, by going back to the Jedi's roots. The answer isn't to end the Jedi, it's to revive what they were meant to be, before they became corrupted. By not going to Crait, he didn't have to kill his nephew, the First Order didn't get ammunition for their propaganda, getting to say they killed the mighty Luke Skywalker so the galaxy might as well give up. Instead, the Resistance saw him take on the First Order and win. They saw him take a hundred blaster shots and a lightsaber through the body without getting a scratch.
So while the movie was kinda boring and weird, everything with Luke, especially on Crait, is amazing, even if I'd rather the movie not exist. Since it does exist, we might as well enjoy these few brilliant scenes with our hero, Luke Skywalker, straight owning the dark side yet again. Not to mention, say what you will about his script, Rian's directing, the visuals, John Williams's music, and the acting of Mark and Adam really make these scenes beautiful. Those two actors really sell it. Adam perfectly sells Kylo being had, like he's completely befuddled. I encourage everyone to not make the same mistake I did. I was so busy feeling bad about Luke failing to rebuild the Jedi Order and being a hobo that I couldn't enjoy the great things this film had to offer, even if it was only a few. I couldn't even see the intent. I just interpreted everything in the least charitable light because of how the film started- with Luke tossing his saber. Not to mention Disney was already going to be intensely scrutinized, and we as a fan base had a bias against them, and thought they probably didn't know what they were doing. It turns out that, while that's kinda true, Rian's film is actually a lot deeper and meaningful than I previously realized. At least the stuff with Luke. Everything else is meh
@@mgoblue9389 I respect your opinion on being positive about it but this politically correct liberal to the max Disney bs is just vile
People bash the prequels but they accomplished a difficult task of telling a unique back story to the original trilogy. These new films can not come up with anything unique or satisfying.
I think the prequels had great ideas but poor execution. Which from an artistic standpoint I respect more then a well shot, visually pleasing film like Last Jedi with terrible ideas but impressive visuals
ROTS was just short of being a masterpiece
@@ryanboggs8685 The sequels arent even as well shot as the prequels. Maybe from a contemporary point of view the acting is better , but even that is problematic because its not Star Wars acting. People complain about the prequel acting but it is more similar to the OT acting than the ST acting is. In TFA, the camera zips and zooms and doesn't stand still enough to display any kind of epic visuals like we got in the first six movies. The movie is just a bunch of action scenes spliced together, and there is no time for reflection and therefore no time for character development. The movie is very loud all the time, and there is no time to develop any kind of tension.
Ben Shapiro DESTROYS whimsical sci-fi film with pure logic
he should first destroy some toxic star wars fans with logic...
@@SHIRO3301 I think the filmmakers destroyed it first :(
Lmfao
He's Thanos. With facts as Infinity Stones
Uh... you forgot to put “logic” in all caps. 6/10 needs work.
So they killed Han, Luke and Leia, Finn's character arc was negated and he reverted back into a coward, Rey turned from a marry sue into a SUPER ULTRA GOD-MOD SUE, and the movie portrayed Poe, the only sane man on the rebel's side, as a dangerous rogue that needs to be thought a lesson from Vice-admiral Gender studies.
Ben solo, AKA Emo Ren is now the only half decent character on the grounds that he is the only consistent character that is faithful to the canon of how the force works, how the dark side works and how logic works. I actually root for the Villain.
ItamarO93 true
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Nailed it
Leia didn't die yet although she should of died in space because she's dead IRL. No reason to keep her alive unless they're trying to do that whole Women are the force BS. Which btw kathleen apparently made in shirts, so you know that's what it was. While Luke died when he just astral projected, meaning men are weak and just randomly drop dead or in this case spontaneously disappear.
Personally I consider rogue one,solo, TFA, TLA, etc to be like bootleg spinoffs of Star Wars.
Nice steal of names from Mauler's channel.
ItamarO93 That me be what these people want...
"now it's worth it" meanwhile the children are still enslaved... but they freed the horse-things temporarily
True. I always thought the bambi faced horses could be stolen again. Btw, those things looked like crap.
I actually like Revenge of the Sith. Then again, its possible I'm beginning to like the prequels because the new trilogy is so terrible.
@I Don't Get The Joke He pretends to be annoying, but secretly, he is an evil sith lord
Casey Jones nah revenge of the sith is actually fucking good
@I Don't Get The Joke after watching clone wars he's decent.
Revenge of the Sith is by far the best one after Return of the Jedi
Casey Jones same
And Chewbacca went vegan.
Esteevius LOL
No he didn't. We saw Chewie loved eating Porgs. He even brought a bunch of them on the Falcon for snacks later!
hopefully, but knowing how those morons think, in the next movie he'll be frying carrots and shave his head bald
Correct. And wearing flannel while sporting big thick-framed glasses and a man-purse at his side.
He will probably have rainbow or pink fur and a sign that says porg lives matter
The hate for this movie transcends party lines
Rene' DeBlanc hahaha 😂
Lets join forces and knock some people out of lucasfilm.
Why do supposedly left-leaning people keep popping up on RUclips loudly announcing their shock agreement with popular opinion on that video?
14:50 I think he gave a terrible idea to Disney.
I don't mind Han dying but he should have died heroically.
Thundernugget like how chewie died in legends. Had a fucking moon drop on his ass.
Thundernugget yeah
I don't mind him dying but I don't understand why he isn't accompanied by Luke and Leia but but some people he knew like what? 20 minutes?
(well and chewie, at least we got that)
Not to mention Ackbar should have been the one to do the light speed ramming, instead of getting blown to space in the first 5 mins.
The Force Awakens was really "meh". Episode 8 could've made Force Awakens better, but instead Episode 8 made EVERYTHING Worse. Good job Kathleen, you fucked up big time.
Thundernugget Han's death was 100% better than lukes
Prequels > Sequels
Originals > Prequels > Sequels
Aron Örn I think you mean
Originals>prequels>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sequels
I liked 3-7 tbh. :/ And the Clone wars movie as the secondary movie
@@BassFlapper It's treason then
Everything Lucas made was mint. Store it in time freezer.
I havent watched The Last Jedi since I saw it in theaters. Same with Force Awakens. I have literally ZERO drive to watch them again either. These are a death blow to the franchise. The Prequels blow these movies away.
You're objectively wrong. The prequels were absolute trash.
Objectively wrong.
@Emino straight uneventful garbage, the most boring and absurd movies of all time.
@Emino Just because the sequels were worse trash, doesn't somehow now make the prequels less trash. IMHO, Star Wars is not an action movie series, it is a sci-fi fantasy drama. Drama is about character development thru a plot. The prequels advanced characters without showing the viewer. The sequels didn't bother to do any development.
Revenge of the Sith is the best Star Wars movie.
ggman7117 nope
1. Empire strikes back then at number 2. Revenge of the Sith brought to you by another top 10 list with a monotone narrator
Landon Holdridge Does the whole fan base only like Empire Strikes Back because of the famous Luke vs Vader scene?
THANK YOU
It was the one with the most meme potential.
How to make Finn a better character. They should have never made him a janitor (which apparently was for comedy) instead a trooper who had killed Innocents (have him murder villagers in the force awakens) and he has this journey of pushing himself harder than any other rebel because he wants to atone for his atrocities. Later on through the trilogy if someone ever asked him if he feels he has atoned, he would tell them that no, that no matter how many people he saves, he still sees the villagers he killed in his nightmares, and he now knows he can never atone for what he did. A character that gritty and conflicted would have been far better, add some comedy SOMETIMES but keep him mainly a soldier who will forever seek to forgive himself, but may never achieve that. I really feel he was wasted for the sake of comedy.
Anthony Gonzalez That's a really good character plot. I dig it.
So go write your own story.
Maybe a little cliche, but definitely much better than what they did with him... Shame they had to make Finn some goofy, annoying screwup.
A lot of roles are already stereotyped, almost every archtype of character has been made, however the important part is HOW is made. That path of atonement would have been much better
What I was expecting from last Jedi before release was that Rey joined Kylo and Finn ended up being the last Jedi. Would've made for a decent change of pace if written correctly but 'meh'
You know the Fans are turning against Disney when they start calling for Jar Jar Binks to make a comeback.
Reg Watson Darth Binks....That’s all I gotta say 😂
I really only learned the details about the Jar Jar sith lord theory about 2 hours ago, and I just realized that it would've been the new version of Darth Vader is Luke's father for me. I was in the age group that thought Jar Jar Binks was legitimately funny when TPM came out, so I actually liked his character to some degree. I am now depressed that I never got to feel that emotional pay off that was potentially being set up.
Reg Watson Better than Rey and superwoman in space which no Jedi have done on screen.
@@kennys3393 it's applied physics in a star wars movie. Not that hard to figure out how it's possible.
Aaron Scoggins yeah it kinda of is we didn’t even know leia was force sensitive and in the prequels many Jedi masters couldn’t survive in space and if you wanna go into physics dropping bombs in space 😂
You guys realize of course, the reason Rey is a Mary Sue is because Rey is Kathleen Kennedy's self insert.
I thought the Sea Cow force-feeding Luke that SJW green milk was Kathleen Kennedy's self insert.
Holy jesus thank you for that. I haven't belted out a laugh like that in a while.
Very true
Ah damn it I knew it felt like a fanfiction!
Wrong! The sea cow is Kathleen Kennedy
Damn Ben made a mistake, the Prequels are effin amazing
Agreed brother
I only liked episode 3 when I first watched them but after all these years, and especially after having seen the Disney Star Wars crap, I now realize that episodes 1 and 2 weren't that bad after all. I mean, there was SOMETHING in those movies, there was some soul in them with a cogent plot and story and it definitely enhanced the Star Wars story as a whole. The dialogue was bad and some scenes were annoying, especially those with Jar Jar Binks, but as a whole they enhanced the story in the originals. The Disney movies on the other hand, bring absolutely nothing to the table, they're creatively bankrupt with some wokeness sprinkled on it. I'd take the worst parts of the prequels over anything in the sequels.
the sequels make the prequels look good
no they suck and lack everything good about a star wars movie
“I didn’t need that whole scene of Luke milking a sea cow”. Lol
Yeah when the sea cow scene happened I was like "....is there a purpose to this scene? At all?"
More of a sea walrus
Noah Lee Dude, I JUST started reading the comments, and just when I read this comment he said it. Like word for word, as I was reading it.
You know to be honest I felt like Luke's character was humiliated. I hated that entire scene.
Someone please slap the crap out of Rian Johnson. What a smug jerk off!
“Ben Shapiro is correct 100% of the time.”
Ben: “The prequel trilogy is crap.”
“Scratch that. He is correct 99.99% of the time!*”
Beautiful...
yessssss
Prequels werent that bad, the problem is that they were competing with one of the top 5 trilogies in the history.
Hindsight right. I didn't think they were horribad when I originally saw them, however, looking back now comparing the new SW movies (Other than Rogue One) the pre-sequel was considerably better than it was giving credit.
Imagine implying the prequel trilogy isn’t crap
“We have to free the weird horse things, but we’ll leave the slave kids to clean up the carnage we leave”
I don't think that Luke ends up looking "cool" in this movie. I mean, the same guy who saw kindness in Darth Vader (one of the most ruthless and evil Siths of all time) didn't see it in Kylo Ren, who has nothing but conflict in his mind?
I knew it was lost, when Luke tossed the sabre off the cliff.
Compare that to giving a gun to an old war veteran who fought in the Vietnam War. Would he be like "So manny happy memories with this thing"?
Yes but unlike the Vietnam Veteran with that Saber he "ended" the empire, met his father, "saved" him, becomes an icon of hope, etc.
@@90enemies well we dont know the whole story between that and now. a lot can happen in 20-50 years in star wars
Same
Me to. Terrible movie
Rogue One was the only decent “new” Star Wars movie. There was genuine sacrifice for something important. I was uplifted even through the “sad”end.. because it meant something. It had a moral core that is completely absent from the other new movies
Cranky Grandma i’m pretty sure solo was good it was a good way to tell a story of the coolest dude like... ever
Rogue One was boring as hell.
But what about the Bothan spies who died for those plans?
I agree. I thought Rogue One was pretty good. Just watched Solo and it was ok (hated that stupid droid though)
@@leotantillo9745 i loved solo more than i thought i would going in
star wars 9 : NO HOPE ?
Star Wars - Episode IX: It was All a Dream
mpye Star Wars 9 : Our ships have plenty of gas this time
there's some hope: JJ Abrams
I’m board already
Leia wakes up and then goes to the shower to find Bobby Ewing there.......
When I found out Lucas sold it to Disney I immediately knew it was going to be bad.
he sold it because of the harassement he got from prequels hater which isn't different from sequels haters' harassement of kk, abrams and johnson^^
@@starwarsprequelsandsequels7582 et oui
@@aurebat5358 et ouais donc ceux qui se plaignet du rachat sont des hypocrites
@@starwarsprequelsandsequels7582 et oui
@@aurebat5358 oui. sinon que pense tu de ma réponse à ta question sur pourquoi red letter media compare sw1 à son fils?
Kathleen Kennedy should be a janitor in Disney.
"That's sexist, are you saying ALL women should be janitors!?!?" says the SJWs.
Pwiest Playing well she swept a lot of garbage onto the screen.
And have a migrant steal it
You see the mess she made with a billion dollar franchise. You really want her to be in charge of the bathroom?!!!
Thats a disservice to janitors fs.
I personally think that the prequels are pretty good.
John Coffey they have aged very well. I used to not like them but now I love them
People like to complain because they simply can. TlJ was definitely a disappointment considering it’s potential..but it’s Star Wars and I love it
Revenge of the Sith is not that bad
kevin yoon neither is episode two in my opinion. Beginning of the separatists that led to the empire, snaking and Padame, count duku
If you haven't found Plinkett's reviews of SW: TPM, AOTC and ROTS, go henceforth to Red Letter Media channel, and learn. I always felt there was few things off in Phantom Menace, and RLM put his finger exactly on why. His reviews are so funny, they are more entertaining to watch, than the actual prequels themselves. As a whole, I used to think the prequels were "okay" but after being educated by Plinkett, I have utterly no desire to watch them again.
Snoke's death reminded me of Darth Maul - menacing, mysterious character who could only be killed by being tricked.
Oh, and they both got cut in half.
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WolfmanKenpo Mail came back
Maul was defeated by Obi-Wan
Francesco Perboni in Rebels yes. But he was cut in half in TPM and came back in Clone Wars
Maul wasn't depicted as anything other than an expendable apprentice as was the old dude, that was the point of the trilogy, anakin taking their spot alongside the emperor by the end. Good or bad movies asides their was a point to it all. Snoke ended up having no point and no explanation. Was he the sith master, episode 7 built him up as a main plot point only to be nothing. Absolutely horrible trilogy.
The new star wars movies would actually be kind of hillarious, if they were labeled as parodies.
Not in my opinion. I only ever watched Star Wars for Luke. . . his death is the main reason I don't like the sequels.
@Noob S. Yeah, I hated the way they tore down everything that Luke developed into over the original trilogy. . . that's my least favorite thing about the sequels
Episode 9 will just be a big shiny loot box on screen
chemtrooper lmao good one
JJ has his work cut out for him
Still better than AOTC
Logan Mainord Time will tell, at least there was a clear and meaningful story line in that film.
AOTC?
AOTC was easily the worse, including the two new ones. TPM had a storyline, TPM was just... written terribly.
The build up to Kylo killing Han and the implied repercussions afterwards were completely non existent in TLJ. Han might as well not have existed in the first place.
That was the plan. Disney is slowly erasing the originals from our minds, bringing back old characters as crappy versions of what they used to be si their characters dont seem as wimpy.
Luke is a child murdering cowardly asshole, Han is a dead beat dad, Leia is superman now, R2 is a living in-joke, and C3P0... well he isnt in the movie much anyways.
I disagree... Han sowed the seeds of doubt in Kylo's head about Snoke which ultimately lead to Kylo killing him.
What? What the hell did you want to happen? What a stupid comment.
TFA was worse the TLJ
i agree but they both bad.. disney killed star wars
In a galaxy full of robots the black guy is a janitor
propaganda of disney
Disney is racist ...... steam boat Willy need I say more
Lmfao
This is from TFA when Han and Finn land on Starkiller base.
It was extremely racist, but no one called out Disney and J.J.
Double standards in Hollywood.
Further, there are great female leads in other SW properties, but Ep. 8 did nothing to further Daisy’s character. We don’t really connect with her fears and hopes.
Part of Star Wars is about how people who seem to live ordinary lives, lives going nowhere, can suddenly be thrust into situations where they become more than what they thought they could be. Finn being a janitor isn't about being racist, it's about his humble beginnings... a janitor who would become a hero. Unfortunately, they haven't handled his character well. They could have done a lot more with him.
Imagine if converting Rey to the dark side worked... THAT would be unprecedented
The biggest plot hole: The most important task for the Resistance to accomplish in The Force Awakens is to complete the map Luke Skywalker left to find him. Now in The Last Jedi Rey uses the completed map and Luke tells her to basically piss off. If Luke wanted to be left alone why the hell did he leave a map! Its stupid and lazy story telling.
He doesn't just tell her to piss off, he tells her he came to the island to die. If you came to die why the hell would you want to be found?!
The plot holes are the size of freaking Craters!! in this.
brandondalew put his potential made him stronger. In the last jedi books vader said himself that luke was stronger than Anakin. Luke only won because vader was conflicted.
thats a really good point.
Nelcomarproductions *Vader only lost because he was conflicted, he was fighting his damn son.
Is anyone even talking about how C3PO and R2D2 r not used as main characters? In the og days they were important
It'd only a matter of time before they get killed off
Because they used BB-8 he took down more bad guys than the rest of the cast lol and for what to sell BB-8 toys I mean I don’t mind I love BB-8 but yeah they don’t care much about the old characters
Even in the prequels and ESPECIALLY Clone Wars too. Also, whatever happened to c-3po's new red arm? did they just.. forget?
I think the new trilogy isn't about them anymore however I still miss r2 and 3po
yeah bb8 is such an r2 rip off, the new movies pay terrible homage to original characters... they paint the old characters in a bad light, which totally discredits the original movies
Anybody think a knights of the old republic TV series would be cool ? (live action) Revan, Bastilla, darth Nihilus etc... would be awesome if done right, obviously not by Disney though.
Cant remember who was set to direct, but they are supposedly going to do a trilogy based in that time period
Let's hope it's not Rian Johnson lol
@@TheUberSuperNova unfortunately, I think it was him...but I recently heard his movies have been put on the back burner
Hah, the cinematic trailers for SWTOR are better than the movies.
I'd love to see an old Republic movie with the rise of the sith...
I'd rather see the sith lords I think it was actaully a better story...
And kera was a very interesting character!
I can't wait to see him tear into Rise of Skywalker.
Pakalu san I know, the two lesbians at the end
Sorry bud
@@jthodges4741 LOL i know right
And I OOP-
He did just the opposite.
The biggest problem I had with the movie is that we never got to see Luke fight before he died. We know from the lore that Luke is supposedly one of THE most powerful jedi to ever exist, but we didn't get to see the beast unleashed. It's such a fucking shame
kthxbai well he kinda fights as a force projection, but yeah all I really wanted, putting aside logic, plot-holes and nitpicks was to see a really good internal conflict and resolving battle involving Luke, Rey, Snoke and Kylo Ren. Just to see the four of them just throw down would have been so satisfying.
The only Jedi that goes down fighting with a purpose was Obi Wan Kenobi.
Grace Stelmaschuk im sure he would kill kylo if not fir plot.
kthxbai ...except all that stuff isn't cannon anymore so Disney can do whatever the hell they want I guess
Luke does fight, he gets beaten by mary sue.
Agree with everything but revenge of the sith is fucking incredible lol
Best out of them all in my opinion
Cole Thomas agreed
Agreed
That’s my favorite one
It’s terrible
Rose was the worst SW character ever. Not the actresses fault, but her character is only there to posture and preen about leftist political issues.
Dave Turner yep
And if you don't like Rose it's because youre a rascist homophobe bigot patriarch.
patrick jennings how lol
@@electro_yellow9295 Patrick is being sarcastic. He means that's what the people who made the character would say. Obviously there is no how. Simply a stupid character
na she was there beause TFA was doing bad in Asia. That's also why in the beginning we see her sister and this stupid yin yang-chain, only for the asian market and maybe SJW-matters but mostly for the merchandise.
I hate when people rag on"Revenge of the Sith" so much.
You were on point until you said the Last Jedi was better than the force Awakens. At least the Force awakens had a plot and created anticipation for a sequel. The last Jedi single handedly destroyed a franchise where its affects were felt throughout the galaxy.
As I was watching The Force Awakens, I was utterly appalled. I don't know why I'm the only one I know who hated it so much, but I feel as though the plot was extremely rushed, and everything meant nothing. One of my least favorite films to date.
They are both horrible movies...
@Jared Lowry for some reason, I did not hate the last jedi, I just did not like it. I do like Rouge and Solo though. The best is still the ot
C'mon, Last Jedi was fantastic, I think the scene with Ray and Kylo after they kill snoke and the guards is probably one of the top 3 finest moments in Star Wars, when Kylo puts out his hand and asks ray to join him the emotional impact of the scene is only equaled by "Luke, I am your father." In some senses the emotional impact of the Kylo and Ray saga is greater because we really don't know that much about Darth Vader in episode 5 so the "I am your father" scene is really only powerful because of Luke's journey, however the Ray Kylo scene is a pivotal point for BOTH Ray and Kylo, who, together with luke, form the core of the Sequel trilogy.
They're both trash. TFA was a scene for scene lower quality rehash of A New hope, replacing the every day man Luke with a Mary sue. The plot points are incoherently connected, their only worry was to evoke nostalgia for episode 4. TLJ, was the work of an egomaniac that decided to shit on everything Star Wars had been up until then, an incoherent mess THAT STILL was a rehash of episodes 5-6. Both are creative failures and it's no wonder that everything Star Wars has been trending down since TLJ came out.
They need to fire their writers..I agree with everything stated. It feels thrown together!!
You can't just slap 'Star Wars' on a movie and expect it to be great. The originals were great movies because they were great not because they were Star Wars. There is nothing intrinsically great about the Star Wars universe.
Scott Humphreys that's very vague..i believe they where good movies because they were unique and interesting. The concept in the beginning won people over. Today it's the continuation, characters and story along with the iconic Star Wars brand that keeps it relevant. This movie only had the name. The story, characters and plot holes destroyed this film.
Thinking back on Yoda's description of the dark side "Quicker, easier, more seductive." That's Rey's journey in a nutshell. No training, no hard work, she just gets uber powers. That's the dark side.
Just as Anakin could handle a pod racer at 947 kph as a 9-year old, without any training, you mean?
Anakin states that he had been in pod races before, just never finished one. We can infer that he has had some training (most likely self taught) and that he has experience pod racing. Additionally his connection to the force simply gave him quicker reflexes in piloting the craft, it doesn't equate to Rey being able to use force powers in a day that took Anakin, Luke and all other force users years to learn
We've rarely seen what people connected to the Force can do at their earliest stages. Luke could see the Marksman-H combat remote without any vision, just by some basic "feedback" from Obi-Wan. Same thing with Rey, she could see things by some basic "feedback" from Luke, but she could not control it - at all.
I respectfully disagree. Luke blocking shots from the combat drone with help from a Master is shown to be a basic exercise for younglings, his only other use of the force in the first movie was enhanced perception and reflexes while piloting in order to destroy the deathstar. He doesn't showcase his ability to force pull his saber(poorly) until the second movie set 2-3 years after the first, the jedi mind trick in the third movie set 4-5 years after the first and after grueling training with Yoda. Rey displays force pull(against a more well trained opponent) and the mind trick on her first day, as well as beating a highly trained opponent with a lightsaber with absolutely no training for any of it(Pre-meeting Luke). The dark side = Quicker, faster, etc. That's Rey, she hasn't earned anything.
Which is why I'm surprised she didn't turn. It was like the writers just don't know how to write co.pelling character arcs. Girl don't even get me started
You say revenge of the sith is “crap” and yet you rank it higher than return of the Jedi? 🧐
It seems his opinion on Revenge of the Sith changed after rewatching it.
Sidharth Eleswarapu yea, I think a lot of people hated it just because it was a prequel. I certainly did not like the first two prequels that much, as I just didn’t like the boring politics in TPM, and I didn’t like the awkwardness in AOTC either. However, Revenge of the Sith is my favorite Star Wars movie, as it does very well in a lot of categories
SJW brainwashing aside, this was just a poorly written story. So many plotholes, loose threads from TFA, poor character development, story lines that went nowhere. But their worst sin was how they treated Luke. LUKE SKYWALKER....got down on his hands and knees....and drank titty milk from an alien walrus....I usually make fun of people that say "muuuhhh this ruined my childhood!" but God damn, this came close.
Mac F I used to milk my sister's goats twice a day, so that sort of scene shouldn't gross me out right? It totally did!
The fact that some characters are iconic to us, doesnt mean that the story has to give them a special treatment...reading all this comments make me realize that all what this fans wanted from this movie is fan service..just like in Rogue One (poorly character developed movie by the way) but..it has Vader slaying rebels... so who cares...the movie rules ! ...pathetic.
This is the only movie where,"this ruined muh childhood" is legitimate.
Javier: No, I didn't want fan service; just a good movie with a compelling story. They should leave the deconstruction to Family Guy. There's no reason Disney has to deconstruct Star Wars.
MrKockNocker - GI Joe Rise of Cobra, the Bayformers movies, Jem were all as bad/worse
I could have written Episode 8 better in my sleep. I would:
*Have had the "bombers" fire warheads that didn't go "down" in space
*Had Leia killed in that explosion so:
-They wouldn't need to explain how she died an inconsequential death between episodes 8 & 9,
-They won't bring her back with poorly done CGI like they did in Rogue One with Tarkin and Leia
-Her death would have a huge impact on Kylo Ren's emotional state and force alignment
*Make Luke Skywalker the same character as he did in the Trilogy:
-I would use a similar backstory for Kylo Ren that was used for Desann and Jacen Solo. Make Ben Solo/Kylo Ren someone who believed that the ends justified the means like Jacen/Darth Caedus
-Instead of Luke trying to kill him in his sleep let Kylo Ren be disillusioned with the NJO like Jacen, then Luke and the NJO try and confront him for fear that without their guidance Kylo may turn into a dark jedi. There could be a confrontation from an argument escalating into a fight between Kylo and his friends vs Luke and the Jedi loyal to him, leading in the Jedi's defeat and Kylo and his followers joining the First Order
*Remove any crap slapstick attempts at humor such as the Poe mocking Hux and Finn being reduced to comic-relief instead of being a serious character.
-Make Finn have a more serious demeanor and relevant to the story
*Get rid of Rose and the whole idiotic forced love-interest side story
*Have the final battle take place on an environment we haven't explored yet that isn't too similar to the battle of Hoth (they show it's salt and not snow so people can't easily say TLJ isn't a ripoff of ESB)
-I would have had the battle take place on a city planet like Trais or Fondor, or maybe even on Manaan, Jabiim, Nal Hutta, or Dac (Mon Cal)
*Had Luke translate Chewie instead of Rey. In fact I would have allowed her to have some flaws (not personality flaws, she already has enough of those) so she's not a complete Mary Sue that could just win the whole damn war on her own with minimal help.
*Make Holdo turn out to be an undercover agent of the First Order, but cover up the reason she withheld her plan from her subordinates. I think it would explain a lot.
*No porgs.
*Luke Skywalker not being shown milking that damn cow thing.
I don't want to be rude but:
I think you would not have done it better. You just take out everything that is considered bad by public opinion and having it replaced by legends ideas or left out how to handle it. Even though you made some good points you did not explain how to do the rest. Take the rest how it is? Then it is 90% of Rian Johnson's script. How would you make these 90%?
I think that if you started writing the first scene you would realize that it is extremely difficult.
Yes, the movie had its flaws but it also had some good parts.
KommissarReb I’ve only got one complaint. The rest is fantastic. Make sure ackbar doesn’t die
Sir Doomsday yah the ending
Noah Zbinden After thinking about it, if I wrote Episode 8 it would be fundamentally different from Johnson's script. I meant to say even Johnson's version of E8 could have been less hard to watch if he made it the way I said.
If I wrote episode 8 I would try to be as original as possible, except maybe have Luke training Rey the way Yoda trained him with Rey going through character development to overcome her arrogance. And instead of Luke being a defeatist loser, have him be open-minded, optimistic, and maybe unorthodox.
Also you claimed "considered bad by public opinion". Are you trying to tell me what I did or didn't like about the movie?
Aye. And my vode coming in and killing the fucks WO approved this shit. (Voh-day. Means brothers in Mando'a.)
I would pay to see Mandalorian kill all of the libs. I'm usually not this fanatic. I'm just PISSED!!!!!
This trilogy would’ve been much better if Kylo was the main character.
Astrosive Can anyone say what The name "Kylo Ren" means? It doesn't sound like a villainous name, actually. It sounds like a protagonist.
Astrosive he essentially is, this entire movie is dedicated to his arc
Joseph Thurman lol I think Snoke actually said the meaning of his name when they were talking I can’t remember though
Nolan Beck That would’ve been a great ending. I kinda thought that was gonna happen in the whole Rey and Kylo fight scene. That scene was still great though.
Well he is along with Rey. But yeah i get what yoy mean. He deserves much more
George Lucas' Episodes 1, 2 & 3 are awesome. They have incredible world-building and awesome characters. Revenge of The Sith is especially fantastic, arguably the best in the franchise.
Come one. I hate fans only saying that because they grew up with the prequels. Episode 1 and 2 are just fucking bad. I hate sand...
@@yp8152 I like when ‘fans’ use the, “I hate sand” line to support their hatred for episode 2 because it shows your lack of knowledge about the franchise and its characters. Why do you think Anakin hates sand?
@@HULKHOGAN1 just an example...
@@yp8152 and there you have it folks.
Y P you May be right about episodes 1 and 2 but episode 3 was strait 🔥🔥🔥
Revenge of the Sith was a pretty awesome movie, especially the last 30 minutes.
Indeed
You were my brother, Anakin! I loved you. Chilling moment...
Agree
I loved the entire episode
xXDeathMetalThrasherXx People give the prequels way too much hate. I’d much rather watch the prequels than the new trilogy
“Laura Dern and her purple hair” lol 😂
Stupid stupid idea! Should have been Admiral Akbar sacrificing himself so fans would actually care.
Admiral purple hair.
Vice Admiral Gender Studies
ZENIGMATV
I do agree with you, but imagine if that happened, then they wouldn’t call it the Holdo maneuver, it would be called the Alluh Akbar
@@darthdingus7439 🤣
The scene where Rey and Kylo team up has a few fatal choreographical mistakes. For example the dude who splits his weapon into two daggers gets Rey in a hold where he could stab her in the back with his dagger and Rey can do nothing about it. But they just edit his dagger out so I guess he stuffed his dagger up his ass since he doesnt have it anymore
Not to mention that Rey is also "super good" at fighting vs all these different weapons, and has no problems defeating these "royal guards". Stupidly boring
That's hilarious because I watched a review of that fight scene and they didn't even mention that one! That means there is more than one way that they would have killed the "jedi/sith" in that scene, a second part is that the staff fighter behind Rey is about to make contact with her head with her back turned and instead of re shooting the entire scene since it was horribly choreographed they instead have him swing the staff in an arc motion from making direct contact with her head to over two feet ABOVE her head, rather than making her duck. Utter trash, what do you mean best scene, it felt as slow and clunky as A new hope's scene with Obi-Wan and Darth Vader. Nowhere near the speed or intensity of the last fight scene in Revenge of the Sith.
Mason Palframan Yeah that's the second big flaw I saw. Plus it has a few strikes that aim at the weapon of the enemy (be it either rey/kylo or some of the royal guard) instead of the person.
In a battle you arent fighting against a sword you are figthing person so dont aim for the sword aim for them
Yes. I saw that too.
Lol u made me spit my drink out when i read the last sentence of ur comment😂😂
The problem is the story's narrative is told through the eyes of Rey and her character is dry as Tatooine desert.
Ben Shapiro COMPLETELY OBLITERATES Star Wars: The Last Jedi (epic must watch)
Luke needed training because he's a man. Rey is a wahmen so she didn't. Only Admiral Holdo could think to use her ship as a lightspeed weapon because shes a wahmen. Men couldn't do it.
It's funny cause it's true!
No this is wrong any main character in the sw franchise was op Luke:Blows up the Death Star when he is just a farmer.Anakin:Is the first human pod racer kills a high level Jedi.Obi wan:He is fucking obi wan:Rey also had training with a staff.In the tfa Kylo is hurt physically and emotionally.
"The force is female" bullshit
Both Anakin and Luke were trained more than swinging a light saber at a rock for a day (Anakin was also trained for YEARS), training in a staff is different than a light saber because 1. A light saber is closer to a sword 2. A light saber has no weight to it's blade. Rey is a MARY SUE
@@Kimtron142 That doesn't mean it's heavy, she said "That's heavier than I thought" she probably thought it was heavy as a light stick but in the HANDLE not the blade their is more weight then you think with all the electronics and crystal the BLADE weighs very little because it is just plasma which is very light, people assume a light saber in Star Wars weigh 2.2 pounds but 99.9% of that weight is from the HANDLE not the BLADE
Star Wars Episode 9's opening crawl: We're so sorry. We totally screwed the pooch. Please forgive us, Mark Hamill. The End.
Sven Berkard you never screw the pooch
I'd pay to see that
Nah more like
Sooooooooo 8&9 were a dream. Luke actually comes to the rescue because that's like what he has been doing the whole time. Han Solo wounded decided to retire, kilo stopped by Luke at the end of 8 and showed how much of a badass he was. Snoke tricked everyone by sending a clone in his place at the throne room and is actually alive. Luke fires Rose for friendly fire. Remaining Resistance and First order prepare for a final showdown.
Luke Ryan You don’t 👏 eat 👏 the 👏 forbidden 👏 fruit
Be better than the movie
"Han just gets stabbed through the belly and thrown down another one of these incessant mine shafts that seem to be everywhere in the Star Wars universe."
*I saw raw...* cough cough cough *untamed power*
It's a General Grievous thing.
Shapiro is General Grievous?
TrevorBOB Bullseye excellent.
NinaSharp, I'm confused as to what you mean
TrevorBOB don't know why he couldn't just mute his mic
I jus realized... How did luke kiss Leia goodbye but be a hologram....
1/10 movie.
it wasnt it was force projection
@@MrGrimjaw but then how did he get there?
@@NoCluYT by useing the force it wasnt really him
He put those stupid dices in her hand and kissed her...
MrGrimjaw THATS THE PROBLEM, HOW DID HE TOUCH LEIA IF HE IS A PROJECTION?!
Also Ben I have to disagree with you about the revenge of the sith. ROTS has the high ground!
You underestimate his power!
Ben: I do not care for I, II, or III.
r/prequelmemes: Then you are lost!
Ben Shapiro is only human. Even he is wrong sometimes
kevin hasch He was the chosen one though! He was supposed to fix the Star Wars universe, not leave it in darkness!
That fight and Anakin descending into madness makes that movie one of my favorites
"What does Star Wars have to do with animal rights."
They killed off Han Solo at the request of Harrison Ford, who refused to return as Han unless they killed him off because he felt that the character had seen the end of his arc. He initially wanted to have Han die in Empire Strikes Back, but that obviously didn't happen.
I also thought that they had the perfect opportunity to kill off Leia, seriously, Mark Hamill is alive, Carrie Fisher is dead, WHY WOULD YOU KILL OFF A CHARACTER WITH A PURPOSE AND A LIVING ACTOR OVER A CHARACTER THAT HAS A DEAD ACTRESS AND A SCENE THAT COULD EASILY BE USED AS A DEATH SCENE THAT WOULD PERFECTLY HELP BUILD UP ONE OF THE MAIN CONFLICTS IN THE FILM!?!?
Also, it looked so fake when she was using the force to pull herself inside, seriously, it was awful, I don't know what happened.
I didn't actually hate the movie, but, those two things really bothered me. Also the space cow, why was there a space cow?
"Also the space cow, why was there a space cow?"
Because Disney humor
SKT Wensless Totally inappropriate and unnecessary. Wasn't funny at all.
The Skeptical Christian, I think they had already filmed the movie before Carrie Fisher had died so if they had wanted to switch Holdo with Leia they would've had to do some expensive re-shooting of various scenes where Leia was present afterwards.
+Milan Donhowe I do understand that for many reasons, such as that and honoring Carrie's memory, they would not want to re-shoot, but it just doesn't make sense to obviously imply that a character would have a major role in the next film when they cannot return due to the death of said character's actress. It just seemed like an odd decision to me. Thanks for bringing that up though, it's a good point.
Someone needs to make a meme out of that one solider saying "....it's salt..."
Embo Khan pretty sure it’s been done for the past week.
They crave that mineral
Embo Khan THATD WHAT I SAID SODIUM CHLORIDE
"Liberal tears?" - "Salt."
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Rose is the worst Star Wars character to ever exist. I think even worse than Jar Jar
Brady Moore At least Jar Jar was supposed to be a Sith Lord and an important character. Rose was just boring.
At least Rose didn't say, "Meso go in da wader okeeday."
She’s awful and didn’t serve any purpose. Jarjar sucks but served a purpose
At least Jar Jar, gave us food, some a couple of decent theories.
I agree that Rose sucks and has no purpose. But Jar Jar's purpose was to give all power to the emperor, okeeday. Jar Jar was the cause of the rise of the empire! Without Jar Jar giving all power to the emperor, Darth Vader would never have existed. Okeeday?
The throne room scene was so badly choreographed.
@Matt McEntyre the way I heard it was that Daisy missed her queue causing the actors playing the guards to clash against each other
Disney was terrible at lightsaber fights
Yes it was! So weak, slow, predictable... Just as Batman in TDNR fighting along catwoman.
I still can't believe how epic that trailer was compared to how bad the movie was
Yep, the person/people cutting these trailers for Disney need a raise.
"It subverts our expectations":
An epic trailer, but GOTCHA - a bad movie.
Epic trailer where luke finally gets back his iconic lightsaber.. in movie instantly throws it away like garbage..
Marketing at its finest. When you see a commercial for a Big Mac at McDonald’s, when you go buy it, it never looks like the advertisement does it? It’s all a manipulation of our collective expectations
I would honestly rather them never create another star wars movie if this is the best they can do :(
Also why is fuel a problem now?
Benthegamer - Also why is fuel a problem now?
Yes, that was so stupid. Think about it, in space you really only need fuel to get yourself moving at first, and to slow down, or change course, once you have momentum, that ship can go on forever without stopping unless it runs into something. There is nothing in space to slow it down like there is for an airplane on Earth. Like the deep space probes such as Voyager that we sent out into space, there is nothing to cause them to stop, unless they run into something or enter a planet's gravitational pull. We did not give Voyage an unlimited fuel supply, it is not needed. No space craft even the primitive ones we use needs fuel to keep moving in space once it get's going. As long as they do not try to slow down or make a lot of course corrections, they could go on for eternity.
It just is now because shut up!
Well, if you look into the books regarding technology, fuel has always been a crucial component of starships. It's just something that we are likely to take for granted in Star Wars, just because it is ususally in abundance, much like rations, or electricity.
because fossil fuel is finite, time to fly on brainfart beams
I know everybody hates Episode 1, but they literally stopped on Tattooine because the hyper drive was leaking and they needed to repair and refuel.
98 percent accurate
1 percent: saying prequels crap
1 percent: needed a star wars nerd to help him
The prequels ARE bad, though. Stiff acting and awkward dialogue
Every decision they could make in this movie was one step away from being awesome, and yet they failed every single one of those decision and it turned out shit.
One more negative is the fact there's barely any in depth serious scenes without a cheesy cheap shot at humour which in fact, were cringe worthy
I thought it was funny when Finn said, "they don't like that ship." But that was it lol.
the fact that they had Chewie get all timid and guilty when the porgs were staring at him about to eat one was the first sign to me. I expected him to just chow down and the porgs look on in horror and that be the joke (cuz that would have been fucking golden), but they went and made AN ENOURMOUS, FEROCIOUS BIGFOOT MAN get done in by what was really just puppy dog eyes. Are you kidding me? That's such garbage
It would have been completely fine if they left the jokes to Poe and Poe alone. The fact that every single character is acting like it's an open mic night was ridiculous
George Lucas had no intention of them continuing the films, he said in 2005 that there would be some off shoots but the Skywalker legacy was over. The mistake they made was trying to continue an already complete story. They should have gone to the past. Rogue One was amazing.
The force is strong with this one
Can you post a source? I read that he was disappointed that they scrapped all of his ideas to go forward.
This is rumors but the story continues as a post skywalker series like a soap opera to finish the saga what he wrote. But after revenge of the sith he went dark and didnt want to touch another movie a make a new one. One of the reasons because of the fans. Would be nice he publishes it as books... As im curious what he wrote.
No, it was not. RO was barely watchable, and only the last scene, wich was a pure fanservice, was good.
To this day I feel bad that nothing was explored about Finn or Poe and even Rey’s back story wasn’t built up correctly. Wish Disney would’ve had a solid plan for the trilogy instead of throwing stuff in as they were on a time limit to shoot the films
Jar Jar is the worst Star Wars character
Disney: hold my beer (Rose)
nah rose is Way less annoying
Rose can find redemption in 9
(She is all right, but 9 could also push her into trash tier)
Jar jar is impossible to save (unless Disney dusts off the darth darth binks theory)
You are insane to think that she is anywhere ear Binks level.
+firekram jar jar is kinda funny in the clone wars cartoon unlike the movies
Shoolk Time he is tolerable in the clone war cartoon (also more proof of sith)
Harrison ford asked to be killed but they killed luke skywalker before asking
The Last Shady Walking Marvel hahaha 😂 excellent point 👏🏾
Everything that could go wrong did
I know... WHYYY 😢
But it didn’t add anything to the story and wasn’t necessary.
Yeah Harrison Ford seems like he's tired of making movies lol. But they could've at least given him a better, more meaningful death.
Now that two almost 4 years have passed with your final thoughts being they killed the Star Wars universe. What are your thoughts on The Mandalorian? I'm loving it.
Best Star Wars content we’ve seen in years I’d say.
Thank god for the Mandalorian.. I'd almost lost all hope of anything new being able to recapture my childhood love for Star Wars
It was good
And now thanks to woke and cancel culture The Mandalorian has been ruined for me. I cannot in good faith support a company that acts like they do and have cancelled my Disney Plus subscription. Gina Carano did not deserve losing a job she loved and being cancelled on every other front. I WILL however be supporting the movie she makes here in any way I can.
@@paulheart5178 The Mandalorian got ruined for u just cuz Gina got fired? 😂
Social Justice Wars 8 " The Last White Male Jedi"
Brown Paper Bag so true. The dialogue was a joke throughout.
Fucking idiot.
Yeah, because all those white boys and Kylo Ren totally don't exist anymore, right?
John Brown the Abolitionist
1st Trump won the election literally with memes because the left can't meme and is no fun.
2nd, talking about abolition then you should be on the right as Trump just signed a historic executive order declaring war on modern day slavery and human trafficking and got over 4,000 sealed indictments ready to go. Along with reducing the power of the federal government it seems your values dont represent your affiliation.
Are you aware the world does not revolve around american politics?