Joss Whedon: The kind of dad that thinks that he knows what the kids want but is actually doing everything wrong Zack Snyder: The cool uncle that knows exactly what the kids want and give it to them
Zack Snyder: Film's serious father. Joss Whedon: Cool uncle who recently started renting the house next door. Joss was playing wingman to his bro Zack, but now for his wife. Later on, he saw the relationship faltering. Instead of helping, Joss and his buddies egged on the break up... Zack and his wife split. Zack's soon to be ex-wife convinced Joss to move in with her almost immediately. They both emotionally abused that film-child into complying with their exacting standards and to forget his father. But that film started skipping school and smoking rocks... Then it ran away from home until good people found it, and helped it get off the crack and get back to it's real father.
Hell, I love it too.....But then there are people who say " Batman doesn't kill people, he killed people in BVS, Batman doesn't use guns" shit and whatnot
The extended cut definitely is the correct way to watch BvS. It fleshes out a lot of the theatrical cut problems and while I still don't like the portrayal of Lex Luthor in BvS, I def do enjoy the movie. Just not the theatrical version.
WB executives are incompetent. I do not think this movie is amazing, but if you hire a director you should also trust the vision of that director. Good on Zack for being able to finish the movie the way he intended.
Zach Snyder wasn't fired, and didn't leave the film due to studio interference. He left because his daughter died and he was facing depression. I don't agree with Ben Shapiro about Joss Whedon's films. The first Avengers was great. The second was a product of studio interference. I also really enjoyed Serenity. Is he a good person? I cannot say, but I've met worse.
@@wazer85 No I haven't watched WW 84. I wasn't a fan of the first Wonder Woman film, even though I thought Gal Gadot did a great job. Everyone raves about Patty Jenkins as a director, but I don't agree. Wonder Woman was noting but a rip off of Captain America: The First Avenger with a terrible third act. I wouldn't have minded the switch from World War 2 to the Great War to disguise the theft of a film plot, but they got lazy. The Germans weren't the bad guys in the Great War. Those kind of mistakes, or callous lies upset me, so I never bothered to see Wonder Woman 1984.
I watched the black and white version of it and loved it I thought that was the new look I just found out it has colour I'm going to sit for another 4 hours and watch the film in colour all over again Fuck it! Love the film
@@wisdomincoming12 it was far better than how Joss’s cut basically was just a world where Barry only was brave enough to save one family that was Russian and waved to them goodbye while saying goodbye in Russian💀like half of the other 20 minutes or so of that version of the movie went no where because Barry didn’t actually save any body
Yeah I reluctantly clicked the video because of some of his political bs, but damn I'm glad I didn't make that mistake, opinions are just opinions at the end of the day.
The Snydercut now gave me a respect for Batman v Superman and the dc universe ad a whole. I like the darker and edgier tones along with the consequences.
Exactly, DC movies should stay on the darker side of the spectrum, more realistic in tone and effects. Marvel can stay brighter and funnier if they want to. This gives ppl more options to see movies, if they all go brighter with the same humor, it would make them all the same and boring.
@@loftgaming5031 I didn't like it at all....until I saw the Extended, Unrated, 3 hour version. MUCH BETTER. The plot made sense. The character motivations made sense, etc. Check it out if you have HBO MAx.
"Consequences" superman is not only a mass murderer but he also committed genocide against the kryptonian hes supposed to be the bridge between both worlds from what the movie tells us yet hes done very little other than cause mass death and destruction theres no Consequences for this cx most of the world's worships him and the ones that don't have zero power over him
@@tyxorion3608 fact is if those new charcters are connected to snyderverse and JL everyone will watch them but if they aren't connected to snyderverse who the fuck will give a ahit about blue beetle,zatana why, we all watched captain marvel as it was connected to endgame, if new DC heros aren't connected to JL or superman or batman no one is gonna watch them lol
We are in the bad timeline bro, Ben Shapiro in another timeline is singlehandedly the best movies/comics reviewer on the youtube platform loved by all fictional lovers alike. But no, we are in a bad timeline where he involved himself in controversial topics and thin ice politics.
@@andrewolivetreemixing Agreed. It might be four hours long, but I watched it multiple times already. I could barely sit through the 2017 Cut. Josstice League was gross.
If you look into Ben's history, he was created by a guy in Hollywood. True story. The guy said that he'd make Ben famous and rich... then he changed Ben's style, tightened up his look, changed his hair... and then Ben became an actor.
He's skill points all went to speech. Talks at 2X speed but can understand all he say. Changing topics mid speech is just low tier stuff in his skill set.
Its a great film, the problem is it completely missed the tone of Superman's character and didn't do justice to the Clark Kent side of things. An example is if we'd gotten Batman films that are full of jokes and Bruce is always happy and chipper. You could make a GOOD film like that, but it wouldn't be Batman.
The critics and the Hollywood industry hated Man of Steel for political reasons. Man of Steel has a lot of classical American fantasy/fairytale story tropes like the hero's journey, the hero rescuing the damsel in distress, the damsel in distress falling in love with the hero easily, etc etc. In addition it has a lot of Christian symbolism. And lastly, Superman being a very all-American hero from Kansas. "I'm about as American as it gets" - Supes says in the end. Hans Zimmer and Snyder said for the score they were going for a very "Optimistic American" vibe.
It’s nice to see a man of such political views take a step back and geek out like this. You can hear his passion for DC when he talks. You can’t fake that.
It's interesting because he mentions Marvel winking at the audience, which is exactly what Ben does in his political rants. You know exactly where he'll come out on things to please his audience. But, when he talks movies you can see that he's just a normal guy who plays a role online. It's fascinating to me
Are you GD kidding me??????????????????????? Clark's father suggested that Clark should have let kids on a bus DIE. Have you never read Superman comic book????????????? That goes against everything that the character is.
He basically said they're bad lmfao.. although I do love Captain america 1,2 and 3... Iron man1, Hulk, Thor1, Guardians, and Avengers 1, and 2... Ben couldn't be more right... and they don't even come CLOSE to something like Chris Nolans Batman trilogy, or Snyders DC films... That being said I love Ben Shapiro, not only do I agree heavily with his logic, with his feelings on politics... but now NERD STUFF!!? Comic book films in particular? Man he's awesome... smart dude. The radical left wants Michael B. Jordan as Superman! lmfao! Screw the iconic look, the blue eyed, black curly hair, white man... lets get a black male, who played a racist black panther character to be the next Superman... with his short fro, or bald hair... he'll REALLY feel like Clark Kent. J.J. needs to be stopped, he turned Han Solo into a pussy, dirtbag loser, horrible husband, horrible dad, his son kills him, and NEVER reunites with Luke... also made a sequel to ROTJ using Han Solo as the main SW character, and didn't use Luke Skywalker at all... what a fuckin tool... i see your political agendas assholes.
@@willywanker1906 It’s very obvious but he clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about. When he’s making his comparisons between the two they seem like he’s only watched a few mcu movies and not the entirety of Marvel’s movies (Logan, Deadpool, civil war, X-men, Raimi trilogy etc.)
@@VVIASIP Good point, but I believe that he's referring to the MCU (Logan, Xmen, Raimy trilogy are not a part od it) that started with Iron man, however I agree that the MCU left that "comedy" stage a while ago, Captain America: Winter Soldier being, in my opinion, the moment when the MCU "grew up"
@@willywanker1906 I know most of those aren’t mcu but he always says Marvel movies. Not once does he mention the mcu specifically so that’s what I’m going off of and I do agree. But it’s clear he hasn’t seen all of the mcu movies especially the best ones
I agree. And this cut was much better. But at the same time, this cut made Justice League go from an absolute dumpster fire to a mediocre super hero film just like any Marvel film.
"we call it josstice league" nope, the crew called it josstice league and nobody ever knew about it until silent bob mentioned it after the snider cut started trending.
Man I would have loved they released it on theaters. The sound effects on theaters would have been an amazing experience. And they could have even gave people 10min break to go get snacks or bathroom break before act 5.
How can we disagree so much politically and yet synchronize pitch perfect on The Snyder Cut...there really are more things that bring us all together #ReleaseTheSnyderCut
@M Ralte they can easily recast. They did it with Rhodey/War Machine (I know, we shouldn't talk about Marvel here, but hear me out), and yes, the recast was done with rather questionable motives, but Don Cheadle absolutely nailed the role he was given in the wake of Terrence Howard's departure, or whatever you want to call it. DC does NOT need Amber Heard to succeed (nor does anyone, honestly) or to make a sequel, especially given that the clip in question could very well be a potential future, possibly even a result of a Flashpoint Paradox. Really the only point I wanted to make; other than that, let's enjoy us a good Justice League movie that has been a long time coming.
What he said abt characters in dc universe not winking at the audience and making inside jokes isn't rlly true cuz I'm watching snyder cut now,15 minutes in and there's a scene where alfred says "A man who spends all his time brooding in a cave isn't a good recruiter",if that isn't an inside joke,what is?
This movie was dope but goddamn it had some cringey lines... The multiple times Superman just... Shows up and does literally anything and Wonder Woman Everytime just stares at him and goes, "Kal-El".....lol But this "not us united" line takes the cake. Sooo bad
So hard to disagree with this given my fanboy-ism for Bale in the Dark Knight Trilogy....but man, Ben Affleck certainly elevated Batman to another level that I didn't think was possible.
@@DapperDilla I think they are just Bruce at different points in his life. Bale was fantastic as a younger Bruce/Batman, whereas Affleck is old man Batman, weary of the years of defending Gotham.
I don’t know about that. Sure, WB said no but it seems that they know the success of the Snyder Cut and might get their head out of their asses soon. Snyder is clearly the soul of the DCU so far and they’d be idiots to keep Marvel-ifying everything.
@@JoshuaCastillo6309 if they can get cavill and affleck back for a straight to streaming movie, it could work. Affleck has already reprised his role for Snyder once and Caville isnt above doing work for streaming platforms. No way in hell you're getting Gal Gadot back though. But fuck it she dies anyway.
It made me sub, and I've never once subbed to anything hbo. But hearing about how they are poo-pooing anything more Snyder, and woke-ifying the stuff, I'm gonna cancel my sub
@@calvin9388 yeah he doesn’t really know anything about marvel. That was literally the entire point of silver war LOL and while I do like Zack Snyder cinematography, he intentionally had a really cool shots from the DC movies and really lame shots from the Marvel movies. I will say there’s probably more epic shots from DC, but I could’ve just as easily chose a bad shot or nothing exciting was happening and then the final battle of endgame. I love Ben’s political views but I don’t typically agree with him on films or anything like that
@@conservativeguitarsingerjs7937 Final Battle of Endgame was Disappointing It was a Huge CGI Smashfest There was no Amazing Visual Shots IMO Mcu died for me after 2016
@Chopper the Marvel bubble is starting to burst…. the joke mentality has worn out. Even Endgame has started to dissipate now from the general consciousness, apart from the admittedly brilliant end battle. The actual whole film is an SNL parody jumbled mess, a poor end to too many movies with too many fillers. I’m glad you enjoy it though. I’m just glad us fans won. We got our Snyder Cut. When we were told we wouldn’t. We did. We won. & there’s literally NOTHING the haters can do. 👌 Absolute bliss👌 The fans won…. more importantly, Zack & Deborah got to finish their trilogy, in memory of their dear daughter.
@@VVIASIP No. Most of it do. Granted, lately MCU is taking more serious & darker storylines which is good, but the 1st 3 phases of MCU feel mostly comedic, carefree, & low stakes. Comedic is fine, but when it overshadows the seriousness of the story, it'd feel like a comedy sketch & hard to be taken seriously. Look at Harry Potter saga, Star Wars OT & PT, LoTR. They had comedic moments but didn't overshadow the seriousness of the story. DC did it too in both Nolan & Zack's era. You've got comedy here & there, but still feels the seriousness of the story. You feel like if the heroes failed or if they succeed but created casualities, that world would be really f-ked & you'd sympathise with it. In MCU phase 1 to 3, you can't feel it at all, except the "haha, that's funny" then you'd forget that the world around those heroes could've been f-ked if the heroes failed. You'd forget that there were lots of casualities in that world from the battle between the heroes & the villains.
He said that the marvel universe never comes to grips with civilians actually getting hurt but literally that's what the whole of captain america civil war was about. I agree with alot of what he said though.
They don’t acknowledge all the civilian deaths until Civil War, even though it’s like in its thousands. Civil War had that one explosion with Scarlet Witch, and that’s tiny compared to these aliens trying to invade earth with the help of Loki.
@aztekkthundergod they just did CW because of bvs. And its the First and movie that adresses it, nearly to Phase 3. So actually, je is right. There is just a too small amount of taking care about the consequences in the mcu. And since CW i expected them to Touch this more. Let there be 2 unique universes, i will take it.
@aztekkthundergod I agree, he is wrong about a lot of stuff. It's ok to get excited and talk up this new version of Justice League...but you just can't take a dump on what Marvel have done with the MCU. The figures show that they nailed it in terms of reaching out to audiences. Growing up I was a massive DC fan, but I've become a huge fan of the MCU since 2008. Having said that I did really like the Snyder cut. I like that it wasn't trying so hard to copy the MCU. Sometimes when the opposition has gone so far ahead the only option is to try something different, not copy them! So well done Zack Snyder
@@billybatson7852 Are there? There are an incredible number of Easter eggs and references in the MCU, at least in the latest movies and Disney+ shows. The MCU definitely likes the free publicity that RUclips/Reddit theorists give them (I personally enjoy that aspect of them too).
That “somethings definitely bleeding” line was kinda funny, but shouldn’t have been used in a DC movie, by Batman, after being brutally attacked by Superman 🤣
Marvel has always generally been more lighthearted, which isn't bad, but the "Snyder trilogy" (Man of Steel, Batman V Superman, and Snyder Cut Justice Leage) is definitely a breath of fresh air
The dark ones like The Incredible Hulk and Thor the Dark world didn't clearly work that well. So marvel is good at what it's been doing but give DC to Snyder, please.
@@harrylongabaugh7402 LOL. Politics just divide people. It’s all about the money, not the human beings. Soon you will learn. Movies help us to escape this sad reality for a couple hours. So get outta here with that crap
@@harrylongabaugh7402 Politics don't bring anything positive lol. Just more complications and division for society. Films bring us together, and help us realize life's lessons.
As the man is fond of saying (besides facts don’t care about your feelings), two things can be true at the same time. Politics and movie reviews can exist in the same space
@@morgiri9512 Rotten Tomato is always unreliable, imo. I prefer IMDB. You can't judge a film just because some people rate it bad, you need to watch it yourself. You enjoyed it, good. If you don't, I don't care, it's your reference. Afterall, i said "MY fav movie of all time", maybe not for you.
The best thing about Snyder's cut was not giving full credit of stopping Steppenwolf to superman as ultimate saviour and made it as team effort of all superheroes.
I think what you mean is that the team knew they needed him but in Snyder's movie they still went out to stop him having faith that Superman would come to help. In Joss's movie they were hopeless and were acting like they were powerless without Superman. The difference is huge. Batman brought together a team that would hold off Steppenwolf until Superman arrived in ZSJL and in the theatrical cut they were treated like a joke.
@@silverspear21 yes, Batman kept saying it, Fait, have faith, while before Batman was like "We're criminals, Alfred. We've always been criminals. Nothing's changed" He changed, from criminal to being HERO,
Dessad "What will we do now, my lord?" Darkseid "The SnyderVerse has been found Dessad, and we will stop at nothing to obtain it. Ready the hashtags, we will use the old ways." #RestoretheSnyderVerse
@@ericwebb7888 Dont worry I'm sure HBO max will ride this go no where, second attempt, afterthought of a sucker draw as far as they can to milk the subset of DC fans that thought that the Snyder movies where worth pulling back out of the trash. Ding ding ding da ding da ding ding...
@@drunkin12Many The worst movie of DC was made by the "finest" director of Marvel. If only Snyder's daughter didn't die, he would never have given this job to a deluded freak. Marvel is shit imo. Copy pasted everything from DC, cracks lame jokes in the middle of do-or-die war, the heroes aren't iconic, illogical theories.
Even though the head of Warner said they won’t bring back the snyderverse. The head of hbo Max tweeted out that the snyderverse isn’t cancelled yet they are deciding this month whether to continue his vision exclusively on hbo max.
I loved 300, I loved Watchmen, and I loved Man of Steel and Batman v Superman. I believed in Zack Snyder, and I want to see his Justice League to the end!
Interesting that Whedon would call Trump a racist when the most egregious cuts to Justice League came at the expense of the women and people of color in the film, especially Cyborg. Cyborg had a level of character development in this film in a way I've never seen before. It literally makes no sense to cut any of his or his father's scenes, they actually filled in a lot of the gaps in the story.
It was .... ok. But I totally agree with him on Batfleck. They did a great job right there. HOWEVER they made Superman so brooding and dark compared to the way the character actually is they had to make Batman basically the punisher. Because those two characters always had a contrast on how they operated from the very start of superhero comics. Snyder's take works best with characters are already dark. He drastically alters characters that aren't as dark which is a bit of an issue. Give him a Justice League dark movie ... that is where he will do best.
@@ronpetersen2317 You realize Snyder had a 5 movue vision and Superman is the central focus. By the end of it he would be the superman we all know and love. I kind of liied that Superman judt wasnt automatically some boyscout that always makes the right decision.
@@kartikadewi3270 The man's a hypocrite. He acts very smart with the quickness and speed of his talking and throwing statistics around but contradicts himself all the time when situations arise.
*Great review of the ZSJL movie and glad you talked about those garbage Joss movies he makes as well.* 🙂 4:16-4:48 *Exactly!* 💪🏽 5:43-6:39 *Facts* 8:24-8:30 *Yup WonderBat forever.* #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
Zack even stayed on the movie after Autumn died, he tried to work through his grief to get the film finished and keep him distracted. Then they sent Geoff Johns in to "babysit" him, who then, without consulting Zack, brought on Joss Whedon, who in the end, only once talked to Zack and that was it. They interrupted the flow of the project and practically bullied Zack and his wife Deborah off the film, then carrying on without them and changing a lot of what Zack originally wanted to be in the film. At the premiere, Deborah and Christopher Nolan (who produced the films and even co-wrote Man of Steel) were there and saw the film, Zack couldn't come due to the pain of going, and they came back to him and told him "you can never see that film". When they brought him back to release his cut of the film, they wanted it to be unfinished and on his laptop. He stated that he'd rather the film be a "mythical unicorn" than that.
Zack Snyder's relationship with WB is unbelievably toxic and abusive. As much as I'd love for him to get at least one more Justice League movie to wrap everything up, I wouldn't blame him at all if he never worked with Warner Bros. ever again, or at least until there's new management.
True, mate. WB is just toxic af. They got panic & took the wrong direction without really discussing it with the director (Zack). Then they threw him under the bus. The audacity of them to suggest Zack to release the film in its unpolished raw form was disgusting. They clearly wanted to keep turning Zack to be the scapegoat of their recklessness, so the audience & the media would've got mad at him if the movie was released like they've suggested.
I thought it was good, but Superman is still my least favorite version and Zack clearly doesn't care much about the characters. The best thing DC has put out for the past 20 years with multiple heroes is the JL cartoon... and that is much closer to what Marvel has done... because, you know... it's based on a comic book.
@Diz Zkl The comics are way more grittier and darker than all these happity hoppity goofy joke cracking nonsense you see on marvel movies so if you claim that the comics are made for kids why are they grittier and darker then?? and I read both dc and marvel comics so I know what I am talking about so by you saying that marvel movies should be used as a blue print for making all superhero movies is rediculous it's like saying that for example a transformer movie is released and becomes popular then transformers should be used as a blue print for all future robotic movies and that's just rediculous
Can we, as fans, start a lawsuit against Warner Brothers to force them to give up the rights to DC and place it in the hands of Christopher Nolan and Zack Snyder? Edit -Addressing a common (a)question and (b)comment A. I don't know what grounds we would actually have. Thats why I'm asking, can we? B. As producers. I know they both said they didn't want to direct superhero movies anymore but it would be in great hands if they were the guys in charge at the top.
Well Shapiro is super into AynRand-ism and Snyder makes a lot of Rand references and libertarian conversations so it makes sense why he would like MOS/BVS/JL in particular I'm not into that individualist philosophy by any means but I appreciate the conversation and artwork Snyder alludes to.
@Kevin Linsley Shapiro's thoughts about comic book movies is verbatim my thoughts. But I don't even know who Ayn Rand is. Politically, Shapiro's a douche and a hypocrite. I strongly oppose him politically. There's no way Ayn Rand or whatever has anything to do with his liking MoS or BvS. It's just plain idiotic to assume so.
@@AshrafAnam uhm Its more idiotic to challenge my point when YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO Ayn Rand is.... Snyder LITERALLY and purposefully references Ayn Rand several times throughout his trilogy. Ayn Rand is an old 20th century writer of soviet decent. She always wrote of her philosophy "objectivism" She is a God to all Libertarians and Free-Market lovers. She hated anything about "collectivism" and constantly said the world would be a better place if Man would strive to only help themselves. By fullfilling your own desires somehow that makes the world a better place. Shapiro loves Ayn Rand. Every Pro-free-marketeer does. Its not the ONLY reason why he likes Snyders trilogy...but I'm sure the Ayn Rand references tickles Shapiro just right
@@kevinlinsley9594 Your point is incredibly stupid. Countless people around the world including me who love BvS and know it as a CBM masterpiece and not having a clue who Ayn Rand clearly refutes your ignorant point. Please stop hating Zack Snyder and stop being butthurt that people love his comic book films, idiot.
Just finished the Snyder Cut. It is absolutely insane how different Josstice League and Snyder Cut are. And it unconscionable once you know why Zach Snyder had to leave. That is absolutely fucked up. What they did to him.
Steppenwolf actually has a relatively good story in the Snyder’s versions. Steppenwolf betrayed DarkSeid in his siege to the throne, and because of that, he was banished from Apokolips. Now Steppenwolf must conquer roughly 50,000 + planets in DarkSeid’s name just to redeem himself and return home to his family 😬 It’s sad seeing how mighty Steppenwolf is until he begins to beg on his knees to DeSaad to ask if he could make a plea to DarkSeid. DarkSeid is like this relentless, uncaring, destructive force that Steppenwolf has to serve and does whatever he can to impress, regardless if he actually wants to.
I don't know what is worse. Living in a world where we didn't get Zack's Justice League or Getting such a Awesome version of Justice League and it not continuing. Pandora's Box conundrum.
The first option is the worst! I'm so happy and grateful we got to see Snyder's original vision! I have hope that we will see a continuation to this universe!
I'm glad it failed, since it allowed DC to move beyond Snyder and create a more interesting tapestry of films than stay with in Snyder's frame work. We'd never gotten Aquaman, Shazam, or the Joker staying on his roadmap.
Yea, he’s a good guy at the end of the day who just wants to release his material that the fans want, and to help people who are in bad situations that he’s had to deal with
@Filosofía Gaming Wait... Can you please elaborate on that? He got invited to a stream that wanted to raise money for suicide prevention and at the start he called fans racists? Please tell me if I got that right or not. I really want to know.
@Filosofía Gaming Technically he said WB and him do not associate with G&G, and then directly after he said that he doesn’t support Asian Hate crimes whatsoever. Those two things are separate topics that are now being implied to be together because he said them one after the other. What one of the hosts should’ve done is had him clarify whether he meant those as separate things or if he meant them together, because now we don’t actually know if he meant that or not.
@@blackZ34all Read my reply to the other guy, it says what you need to know. You should also watch the vid from the stream to see exactly what Snyder said himself
Not really. At the time, BvS had done so terribly in the minds of most people that it wouldn't have done so great. Even if you just go by HBO Max's own numbers, you can see that. This long awaited version didn't even do better than WW84.
@@billybatson7852 yes it actually did my guy. The numbers don’t lie. Most people actually liked this better than the crap WW sequel, and that’s form an objective stand point. Because it’s a better film. Thanks to Zack. For someone named after a dc character you sure do hate the idea that Snyder’s cut exceeded pretty well.
@@billybatson7852 BvS did make almost 900 million. No matter how you slice it, that's a good chunk of change. Not to mention the fact that the extended 3 hour cut was very well received. ZSJL is actually killing it numbers wise. BvS UE blu-ray rerelease sold out on pre-order everywhere in 12 minutes. I wouldn't be surprised if ZSJL does well in home video sales as well. All of that being said, the decision makers at WB should have been embarrassed a long time ago given how much of there meddling has been so public and with such terrible results. There decision to sign off on Josstice League was bad enough. I mean the fucking movie started off with that horror show of a mouth on Henry Cavill, and they still gave the thumbs up as is. The fact that they chose that, when they had the principal photography of ZSJL and could have had some 3 hour version is beyond embarrassing. It's a fireable offence for all parties involved.
@@alcitrullo3124 Quick facts, Al: That BvS number sounds really good until you realize that Marvel was making close to that amount with a talking raccoon and tree movie while DC had put forth their two most famous assets... which are two of the most famous superheroes in history. ZSJL did very well, but had fewer viewers than WW84. Stop calling it Josstice League, kid. Snyder destroyed Superman in Man of Steel by making his dad a complete asshole who suggested that it would be okay if he let a bunch of children die. That's not Superman. Yes, the studio fucked up. But Snyder had made such a mess of the entire thing for the first two movies, what did you expect? Zack doesn't even know how Flash's powers originated, for god's sake. lol
@Alfred Alfred only if you pick up 100% of the things he says as fact,sometimes Ben is disingenuous and sometimes completely misses the mark,his best weapon is generalizing “the left” by 1 tweet or 1 persons actions,as Ben says...two things can be true at once,you can watch Ben and have similar views,but also call the BS when you hear it...
@@justsomeguywithoutamustach9072 holy shit thank you. Ben sometimes has holes in his arguments, it’s safe to check his sources to check if Ben is telling the truth or not, but Shapiro fans take too many of his points as 100% fact
The Guardians of Ga'Hoole was actually pretty underrated as well. Sucker Punch was a surprisingly good movie as well with not only fun action, but some surprisingly poignant thematic ideas and symbolism. I think the point of that movie going completely over the heads of most of the critics is what turned them against him going forward because "muh sexism," even though Sucker Punch wasn't promoting sexism...
MCU frames looks like TV series. Snyder DCEU frames looks like a comic book/graphic novel. For a comic book movie, it's pretty apparent which style that respects & fits the comic book movie subgenre.
*Desaad : I Told you, did I not, my Master, WB will not let them do JL 2* *How will you get your sequel ?* *Darkseid : Justice league is found Desaad and we will stop at nothing to get the sequel* *Ready the hashtags, we will use the Old ways* *#RestoreTheSnyderverse* *All of Twitter Shall. Be. Ours🔥*
Question: Will the SnyderVerse be restored? Batman: “If there’s even a one per cent chance, then we have to take it as an absolute certainty!” #restorethesnyderverse
Sure... with Ben Affleck dropping out of The Batman... Cavill not too interested anymore... and Ray Fisher refusing to work with multiple execs. I wouldn't take that bet.
With all of the positive fan reactions to the Snyder Cut, I don't see how WB can just scrap parts 2 and 3 without severely ruining their reputation as a studio at this point. #WeWantMore
Cyborg saying booyah was actually a reference to the original Teen Titans cartoon, which was very popular, and where he says it all the time. It's his calling card.
It doesn't suit his character portrayal in ZSJL, not everything has to be comic accurate to the 100th percentile. It didn't suit for him to say it in ZSJL, so I understand why he had an issue with it when Joss stepped in and had him say that line.
@@Riparay121 It only appears in the Theatrical version of Justice, which had a somewhat campier tone. It's not in Zack Snyder's Justice League, which was darker.
The Snydercut is sort of a unique phenomenon in modern culture - like Ben says, it LITERALLY demonstrates how much better art turns out, if the artist is actually allowed to do his thing, and has the final say in what is being done to the creation.
@@Edbrad That is not a first, not even for this genre. Superman II from 1980 had a similar fate to Justice League where the original director was replaced and they did re-shoots. The Richard Donner cut is a totally different movie. Like with JL, most of the theatrical material were thrown out.
@@donalddouds6033 Geeks are all forms; not limited to one or the other. Whereas i agree with you. Dungeons and Dragons is way more obscure than the DC Universe.
meh, everyone is a "geek" these days. He's just jumping on the bandwagon. you can clearly hear in his review the lack of knowledge on both DC and marvel comics and the movies. Batman throws jokes around as much as marvel characters do, if he was a fan, he would know this. He clearly is grasping at straws to seem like he is in the know.
The original justice league was a 2/10, the Snyder cut was a 9/10 I had no idea that I even wanted such a thing but wow, suddenly I'm into the entire universe again.
@@DeathShock28 if that's the case then endgame is full of plotholes. Oh shut up, there is only one plothole in snydercur, but I won't say it's a plothole cause we never knew about darkseid arc. So, shut up
He's a much more serious character in the comics. I love both TT and original Cyborg, but 'Booyah' would be so misplaced in a film of this tone. I guess it fit in the 2017 one where they where looking for cheap excitement
I'm 34. I haven't seen Teen Titans, and don't care to. But I know several 30 and under folks who love it. I'm guessing that my age is kind of the cutoff. I also hate SpongeBob. Most people my age and older do. I think early 90s babies and forward are of a different stock.
@@Brian_Crow The original Teen Titans show was great for what it was, it gets overhyped a lot, but its real value was being like an early western anime where both a dark serious nature and comedy mixed well. The character interactions and the shows semi-continuous nature played well for what it was. (even if it was fairly alone and isolated) For Spongebob it really depends on era of the episode and mood, its like the Simpsons, which does not work for every mood and has its own eras, if you choose too early, the medium wasn't fleshed out, too late and its total garbage, (and lost any charm, becoming an unbearable children's show) they both have a golden age.
When flash does his thing at the end of the film and basically saves the day... shit man is one of my favourite scenes from any superhero film I’ve seen and I’ve seen them all
Ever seen The Flash TV show? He did a very similar thing where he reversed time after Arrow's body was obliterated and an entire city (or maybe world) was being destroyed just like in this movie. Yes, the Flash scene in ZSJL was cool, but it's been done similarly before.
"Snyder won't get paid for the snyder cut"
Snyder: it's not about the money
It's about sending a message.
🖒🖒🖒
@@FrancistheBrave he wants to send a message through his cut, he doesn’t care for the money
@@FrancistheBrave famous quote from the Joker in Nolan’s Dark Knight... c’mon guys! It’s not about the money! It’s about sending a message...
@@dayannajimenezarguello1733 I know love that scene❤❤❤
@@FrancistheBrave me too... just like this other one... “It doesn’t matter who we are, what matters is our plan!” That trilogy is filled with epicness
WB: We’re not doing anymore Snyderverse movies
Fans: But the bell’s already been rung, and they’ve heard it.
Best comment.
All done, say goodbye to Synderverse
Ding ding ding ding ding ding ding
The red capes are coming...
Ready the Armada! We'll use the Old Ways!
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
WB: “We will not continue the Synderverse”
Fans: “Prepare the armada, we will do it the old way...”
prepare the hashtag, we will do it the old way
So, where’s the hashtag?
ready the anti-wallet, we'll use the BEST way
lolll very nice
For darkseid
Joss Whedon: The kind of dad that thinks that he knows what the kids want but is actually doing everything wrong
Zack Snyder: The cool uncle that knows exactly what the kids want and give it to them
But he was misunderstood as the creepy one instead of the cool one that he is
😂
@@siddharthakvr5154 for me I don't find it creepy. . . I find it cool
Zack Snyder: Film's serious father.
Joss Whedon: Cool uncle who recently started renting the house next door.
Joss was playing wingman to his bro Zack, but now for his wife. Later on, he saw the relationship faltering. Instead of helping, Joss and his buddies egged on the break up... Zack and his wife split. Zack's soon to be ex-wife convinced Joss to move in with her almost immediately. They both emotionally abused that film-child into complying with their exacting standards and to forget his father. But that film started skipping school and smoking rocks... Then it ran away from home until good people found it, and helped it get off the crack and get back to it's real father.
the cool uncle who knows exactly what the kids want, even when they don´t know it until they see it.
"Destroying Joss Whedon with facts and logic" now this does put a smile on my face
When he said he doesn’t like joss whedon I was in shock. Not even buffy? That shit was incredible
@@sym8774 that's because whedon's a democrat
You do realize that quote is from a marvel movie, right...
@@braevinmaund1210 The irony.
@@sym8774 he's a kinda good director but a really bad person. Like bro Firefly and Buffy are incredible but JL2017 is really really bad
One correction: Zack Snyder's Justice League is NOT a remake. It is the original story. Joss Whedon's crappy version is the remake.
It's a remake to an extent because Zack Snyder shot more scenes with the joker recently
Joss Whedon's crappy version is a high school film project based on the original.
@@notreallybutokay7 Zack Snyder only shot an extra 5 minutes of footage with the Joker. That's not what a remake is. Zack's cut is the original.
when the remake gets made before the original! 100% AGREE
they sure picked the incorrect one to premier then. but regardless synders was a elbombo.
"I'am the only one who actually like Batman v Superman"
You are not alone Ben....You are not alone....
I loved it too
A lot more people are beginning to like it now
@@Borrrrnana well I think people now are starting to get what snyder was going for.
BvS was a CBM masterpiece.
Hell, I love it too.....But then there are people who say " Batman doesn't kill people, he killed people in BVS, Batman doesn't use guns" shit and whatnot
The only RUclipsr I found who actually gets BvS. Bravo.
The extended cut definitely is the correct way to watch BvS. It fleshes out a lot of the theatrical cut problems and while I still don't like the portrayal of Lex Luthor in BvS, I def do enjoy the movie. Just not the theatrical version.
@@jonathancohoon big fax
I loved it and it felt so real
@@jonathancohoon I really like lex Luther imo
Exactly!
WB: No sequels to synderverse!
Fans: Ready the hashtags, we shall use the old ways!
WB Marketing Team: Release two versions of the same movie!
Nice reference to Darksaid uwu
Let me know which one is it so I can start posting it.
What you say we go to WB and spam all their posts with this hashtag
Very Clever use of Darkseids quote lol You my friend made my day!
The best part is that Steppenwolf actually has a character arc this time.
steppenwolf is still pretty flat and boring to me but hes much better than the theatrical
@@johnmendyk98 agreed. He’s not that special, but at least he is an actual character this time
I haven’t seen it yet. But, from what I hear, he still doesn’t really have an arc, just motivation.
And he doesn't look like a goofy tall grandpa with cosplay armor on
Honestly. I think it's comparable to thanos from endgame.
This movie proves that studios shouldn't interfere with the Director's vision.
WB executives are incompetent. I do not think this movie is amazing, but if you hire a director you should also trust the vision of that director. Good on Zack for being able to finish the movie the way he intended.
Zach Snyder wasn't fired, and didn't leave the film due to studio interference. He left because his daughter died and he was facing depression. I don't agree with Ben Shapiro about Joss Whedon's films. The first Avengers was great. The second was a product of studio interference. I also really enjoyed Serenity. Is he a good person? I cannot say, but I've met worse.
Did you watch Wonder Woman 1984. The Director was given total leeway and she butchered the characters.
@@wazer85 No I haven't watched WW 84. I wasn't a fan of the first Wonder Woman film, even though I thought Gal Gadot did a great job. Everyone raves about Patty Jenkins as a director, but I don't agree. Wonder Woman was noting but a rip off of Captain America: The First Avenger with a terrible third act. I wouldn't have minded the switch from World War 2 to the Great War to disguise the theft of a film plot, but they got lazy. The Germans weren't the bad guys in the Great War. Those kind of mistakes, or callous lies upset me, so I never bothered to see Wonder Woman 1984.
They always do and always will be, no director is free, not even the old school ones
This is a 4 hour movie I definitely wouldn't mind watching over again, It was that good!!!
I watched the black and white version of it and loved it
I thought that was the new look
I just found out it has colour
I'm going to sit for another 4 hours and watch the film in colour all over again
Fuck it! Love the film
I’ve watched it twice and likely will again... it’s that good!
To many easily impressed nerds in this comments. The epilogue alone was enough to ruin the movie. Joker was terrible terrible terrible
@@wisdomincoming12 nerds lol, DC fans buddy, and I don't think you understand, on even a basic level, snyder's style of storytelling!
@@wisdomincoming12 it was far better than how Joss’s cut basically was just a world where Barry only was brave enough to save one family that was Russian and waved to them goodbye while saying goodbye in Russian💀like half of the other 20 minutes or so of that version of the movie went no where because Barry didn’t actually save any body
The thing that's kind of surprising to me is that Ben is genuinely good at this. I don't know why I didn't expect that.
Yeah I reluctantly clicked the video because of some of his political bs, but damn I'm glad I didn't make that mistake, opinions are just opinions at the end of the day.
@@anabolicchicken4115 exactly but it's so hard with biases
He has some bad takes though with movies. The Irishman and Parasite being an example.
Tbhhhh I thought it was gonna be cringy but he tells you about the movie without spoiling it. Thanks again ben
What is actually surprising is that he likes Justice warriors
The Snyder Cut is coherent, the humour is not jarring, & the characters are respected- & it made me want a sequel...
Coherent, but also bloated.
@@Davaroni that could be avoided in theatrical release, this is complete movie snyder released though
@@Davaroni Shut up. Go watch marvel kiddie
Same here Zack Snyder is the definitive cut....
I bought the movie on Amazon Prime.
Joss Whedon: “we have a racist, fascist president...”
Shapiro: “release the snydercut”
To be fair, Snyder certainly isnt a righty either.
I literally lol'd so hard
@@apal5757 Snyder threw Geeks and Gamers under the bus 🚌.
@@dantewillis4809 it’s more complicated then that
No. It’s just fans blowing shit out of proportion.
The Snydercut now gave me a respect for Batman v Superman and the dc universe ad a whole. I like the darker and edgier tones along with the consequences.
Exactly, DC movies should stay on the darker side of the spectrum, more realistic in tone and effects. Marvel can stay brighter and funnier if they want to. This gives ppl more options to see movies, if they all go brighter with the same humor, it would make them all the same and boring.
If you like the darker tone watch JL Dark Apocalypse War. It’s *super* dark
I still wouldn’t go as far as Batman v Superman as that movie was ass
@@loftgaming5031 I didn't like it at all....until I saw the Extended, Unrated, 3 hour version. MUCH BETTER. The plot made sense. The character motivations made sense, etc.
Check it out if you have HBO MAx.
"Consequences" superman is not only a mass murderer but he also committed genocide against the kryptonian hes supposed to be the bridge between both worlds from what the movie tells us yet hes done very little other than cause mass death and destruction theres no Consequences for this cx most of the world's worships him and the ones that don't have zero power over him
When he flash uses his ability to vibrate and let the blast go through him was my favourite part of the whole movie - joss had him pushing a truck
We’ll meme that for a long time.
It's called Phasing
F uck yeah
@@savant7288 That's not actually what happened. lol Has no one here ever read the Flash comics?
@@billybatson7852 I haven't read them, it would be nice if you told us what happened
WB: no more snyderverse
Fans: it's treason then.
HA I understood that reference
*AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH*
We will use the old ways
''For Darkseid".
prequel memes will never get old!
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
Edit your comment you got it wrong
@@lyingninja8020 thx
@@valon.pllana np bro
YOSHI TATSU...can you make a video about him?
11:09 "What they actually want is a Blue Beetle movie."
This face is a mood, what we REALLY want is for them to #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
I really like Blue Beetle and I would love to see him in action but of course in the Snyderverse
@@tyxorion3608 Haha to be fair, I don't know anything about Blue Beetle apart from playing him in Injustice, kinda slaps tho haha
Both blue Beatles are awesome.
KOOORD!!
@@tyxorion3608 fact is if those new charcters are connected to snyderverse and JL everyone will watch them but if they aren't connected to snyderverse who the fuck will give a ahit about blue beetle,zatana why, we all watched captain marvel as it was connected to endgame, if new DC heros aren't connected to JL or superman or batman no one is gonna watch them lol
i LOVE when Ben geeks out like this, just fun and no worries. Wish he would do more movie/tv reviews from time to time
I’m not used to it at all
We are in the bad timeline bro, Ben Shapiro in another timeline is singlehandedly the best movies/comics reviewer on the youtube platform loved by all fictional lovers alike. But no, we are in a bad timeline where he involved himself in controversial topics and thin ice politics.
His Star Wars reviews are always on point, even if I don’t agree with his politics.
@@orangutank626 this is such a good point😹
@@Rebel084 it’s great thooo
Damn.... This guy just verbally uplifted Zack Snyder with his words! #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
WB: No more Snyderverse movies.
Fans: Prepare the hashtags. We will use the old ways.
💯
honesty this gave me goosebumps 🤗🤗🤗
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
I can't hate on Ben Shapiro anymore now knowing he's a DC fan. I didn't know he was this smart!
Same...i didn't know too...
Snyder cut bringing the world together! Can't deny this movie was excellent
@@andrewolivetreemixing
Agreed. It might be four hours long, but I watched it multiple times already. I could barely sit through the 2017 Cut.
Josstice League was gross.
C'mon you're giving more credit that it deserves, It was decent at best
@@DrRAZI99
Art is subjective. However much praise it gets, that’s exactly how much it deserves.
Wonder woman blocking bullets in real time, was the most amazing things to see
Totally agree
That one scene for wonder woman was more badass than the whole 1984 movie
@@ebelleau this awful running scene in WW 84 🤨
HELL YEAH....also the Flash saving people from rocks rumbles falling onto their head in real time....
@@deninpaul7509 play that scene back frame by frame, and you can see Flash standing and thinking with his hand on his chin
I can never get over, how Ben will be so into what he is saying and a split second later he turns into a full on commercial 😂😂
Segueing into an advert is a true skill.
If you look into Ben's history, he was created by a guy in Hollywood. True story. The guy said that he'd make Ben famous and rich... then he changed Ben's style, tightened up his look, changed his hair... and then Ben became an actor.
He is an AI what do you expect
He's skill points all went to speech. Talks at 2X speed but can understand all he say. Changing topics mid speech is just low tier stuff in his skill set.
lmao awesome comment
Man of steel is severely underrated I still don’t understand why
Epic film, loved superman for first time (as I did with nolans batman)
Its a great film, the problem is it completely missed the tone of Superman's character and didn't do justice to the Clark Kent side of things.
An example is if we'd gotten Batman films that are full of jokes and Bruce is always happy and chipper. You could make a GOOD film like that, but it wouldn't be Batman.
Best superman movie hands down.
Best superman movie i have seen so far
The critics and the Hollywood industry hated Man of Steel for political reasons. Man of Steel has a lot of classical American fantasy/fairytale story tropes like the hero's journey, the hero rescuing the damsel in distress, the damsel in distress falling in love with the hero easily, etc etc. In addition it has a lot of Christian symbolism. And lastly, Superman being a very all-American hero from Kansas. "I'm about as American as it gets" - Supes says in the end. Hans Zimmer and Snyder said for the score they were going for a very "Optimistic American" vibe.
You can see it like a mini series or be an absolute badass and watch it in one sitting finishing it at 2 in the morning
I though the first half wasnt really that good. Imo the movie doesnt really get good til the second half
I came home from work at 12:15 am, started watching at 2 am and finished at 7am.
I went from midnight to 4 am
I did the latter
I watch this at 5:40 p.m. with my dad on a school day and finished at 10:00 p.m.
It’s nice to see a man of such political views take a step back and geek out like this. You can hear his passion for DC when he talks. You can’t fake that.
It's interesting because he mentions Marvel winking at the audience, which is exactly what Ben does in his political rants. You know exactly where he'll come out on things to please his audience. But, when he talks movies you can see that he's just a normal guy who plays a role online. It's fascinating to me
This man understands man of Steel and Batman v Superman.
Are you GD kidding me??????????????????????? Clark's father suggested that Clark should have let kids on a bus DIE. Have you never read Superman comic book????????????? That goes against everything that the character is.
Lol no what is saying is what bvs should have been. They barely talked about that premise in the movie. That wasn't even why superman went court
@@billybatson7852 umm super man's alot more insane in the comics. I don't think you've ever read one
@@narwhal9852 yep. He hasn't. He lives in lala land.
@@billybatson7852 You’ve clearly only the most surface level understanding of Man of Steel and Superman in general.
I like how he doesn’t say marvel movies are bad, he says they just aren’t his cup of tea. 🍵
Respect.
yeah, i respect that
But he believes (knows) that the Marvel movies are actually bad. Hokey. And I respect THAT.
@@patrickleonardo9296 there is always that one guy
He basically said they're bad lmfao.. although I do love Captain america 1,2 and 3... Iron man1, Hulk, Thor1, Guardians, and Avengers 1, and 2... Ben couldn't be more right... and they don't even come CLOSE to something like Chris Nolans Batman trilogy, or Snyders DC films...
That being said I love Ben Shapiro, not only do I agree heavily with his logic, with his feelings on politics... but now NERD STUFF!!? Comic book films in particular? Man he's awesome... smart dude. The radical left wants Michael B. Jordan as Superman! lmfao! Screw the iconic look, the blue eyed, black curly hair, white man... lets get a black male, who played a racist black panther character to be the next Superman... with his short fro, or bald hair... he'll REALLY feel like Clark Kent.
J.J. needs to be stopped, he turned Han Solo into a pussy, dirtbag loser, horrible husband, horrible dad, his son kills him, and NEVER reunites with Luke... also made a sequel to ROTJ using Han Solo as the main SW character, and didn't use Luke Skywalker at all... what a fuckin tool... i see your political agendas assholes.
@@batman4452 oK funny man
Even Ben gets the concept of marvel and DC,
He clearly doesn’t
@@VVIASIP How so?
@@willywanker1906 It’s very obvious but he clearly doesn’t know what he’s talking about. When he’s making his comparisons between the two they seem like he’s only watched a few mcu movies and not the entirety of Marvel’s movies (Logan, Deadpool, civil war, X-men, Raimi trilogy etc.)
@@VVIASIP Good point, but I believe that he's referring to the MCU (Logan, Xmen, Raimy trilogy are not a part od it) that started with Iron man, however I agree that the MCU left that "comedy" stage a while ago, Captain America: Winter Soldier being, in my opinion, the moment when the MCU "grew up"
@@willywanker1906 I know most of those aren’t mcu but he always says Marvel movies. Not once does he mention the mcu specifically so that’s what I’m going off of and I do agree. But it’s clear he hasn’t seen all of the mcu movies especially the best ones
WB: We won't be doing any sequel
Fans: *Ready the petitions we'll use the old ways*
Hopefully, that Future Flash version will see the light in the future
Where’s the hashtag?
hehehe awesome comment
I see what you did there darkseid..i mean opm🤣
I'd sign this petition. 👍
Hearing Batman say "I will fucking kill you" and Steppenwolf's face after being told he still owed Darkseid 50,000 worlds was classic.
We call the 2017 abomination “Josstice League” because it’s its own disaster that should never be disassociated from Whedon.
I agree. And this cut was much better. But at the same time, this cut made Justice League go from an absolute dumpster fire to a mediocre super hero film just like any Marvel film.
I call it the injustice league
Warner should be bledo as well they told this guy to come and to cut and the other stuff yeah its him.
"we call it josstice league" nope, the crew called it josstice league and nobody ever knew about it until silent bob mentioned it after the snider cut started trending.
@@robinhooduk8255 😳 For real?
I dont care if it was 12 hours long ill rewatch it 100 time over just as i did the 4 hour version.
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
fr it was really worth it tbh
Man I would have loved they released it on theaters. The sound effects on theaters would have been an amazing experience. And they could have even gave people 10min break to go get snacks or bathroom break before act 5.
How can we disagree so much politically and yet synchronize pitch perfect on The Snyder Cut...there really are more things that bring us all together #ReleaseTheSnyderCut
I want to attack you politically, but I.. just.. can't..
This is not the place!
political disagreement should not tear people apart.. really.. we should be united anyways
@@hazielpax2290 great response
Movies should be sacred places separate from politics
Yeah I'm the same and feel Ben's superhero/movie reviews are generally on point
Brilliant. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
I hope you have a nice day everyone! Say yes I agree if you need one!
Yes
@M Ralte they can easily recast. They did it with Rhodey/War Machine (I know, we shouldn't talk about Marvel here, but hear me out), and yes, the recast was done with rather questionable motives, but Don Cheadle absolutely nailed the role he was given in the wake of Terrence Howard's departure, or whatever you want to call it. DC does NOT need Amber Heard to succeed (nor does anyone, honestly) or to make a sequel, especially given that the clip in question could very well be a potential future, possibly even a result of a Flashpoint Paradox. Really the only point I wanted to make; other than that, let's enjoy us a good Justice League movie that has been a long time coming.
What he said abt characters in dc universe not winking at the audience and making inside jokes isn't rlly true cuz I'm watching snyder cut now,15 minutes in and there's a scene where alfred says "A man who spends all his time brooding in a cave isn't a good recruiter",if that isn't an inside joke,what is?
Thanks for believin me ❣️
I don't care how many demons WB's fought in how many hells, they never fought us. Not us united.🤘#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
This movie was dope but goddamn it had some cringey lines... The multiple times Superman just... Shows up and does literally anything and Wonder Woman Everytime just stares at him and goes, "Kal-El".....lol
But this "not us united" line takes the cake. Sooo bad
#RestoreTheSnyderverse
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
@@vikistefanus8510 #SnyderVerseIsCanon
Ben Affleck is the best Batman: change my mind
Note: I'm generally not a Ben Affleck fan
So hard to disagree with this given my fanboy-ism for Bale in the Dark Knight Trilogy....but man, Ben Affleck certainly elevated Batman to another level that I didn't think was possible.
@@DapperDilla I think they are just Bruce at different points in his life. Bale was fantastic as a younger Bruce/Batman, whereas Affleck is old man Batman, weary of the years of defending Gotham.
@@Draco.Invictus Spot on!
The fact that we’ll probably never see more of that dystopian future that Batman dreams as it’s own movie is truly a tragedy.
I don’t know about that. Sure, WB said no but it seems that they know the success of the Snyder Cut and might get their head out of their asses soon. Snyder is clearly the soul of the DCU so far and they’d be idiots to keep Marvel-ifying everything.
I personally don't like dystopian stories... one reason I really won't watch Hunger Games... I prefer optimism to pessimism.
Play the Injustice games they play off that ifea
@@tuckerharris7152 Loved those games! the first one more than the second, though
@@JoshuaCastillo6309 if they can get cavill and affleck back for a straight to streaming movie, it could work. Affleck has already reprised his role for Snyder once and Caville isnt above doing work for streaming platforms. No way in hell you're getting Gal Gadot back though. But fuck it she dies anyway.
It's great to find another Batman v Superman fan! #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
ULTIMATE EDITION^^^^
Same bruv
Same I actually liked it too
Same honestly
The cloud strife pfp is dope
It's so good, it's caused Warner Bros to flip over their desk and hide behind them for the foreseeable future
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uk whatever he said abt marvel not caring that ppl get hurt in their movies isn't true cuz civil war was all abt that
It made me sub, and I've never once subbed to anything hbo. But hearing about how they are poo-pooing anything more Snyder, and woke-ifying the stuff, I'm gonna cancel my sub
@@calvin9388 yeah he doesn’t really know anything about marvel. That was literally the entire point of silver war LOL and while I do like Zack Snyder cinematography, he intentionally had a really cool shots from the DC movies and really lame shots from the Marvel movies. I will say there’s probably more epic shots from DC, but I could’ve just as easily chose a bad shot or nothing exciting was happening and then the final battle of endgame. I love Ben’s political views but I don’t typically agree with him on films or anything like that
@@conservativeguitarsingerjs7937 Final Battle of Endgame was Disappointing
It was a Huge CGI Smashfest
There was no Amazing Visual Shots
IMO Mcu died for me after 2016
He said what I couldn't put words to. Scenes from marvel looks like a TV movie.
@Chopper the Marvel bubble is starting to burst…. the joke mentality has worn out. Even Endgame has started to dissipate now from the general consciousness, apart from the admittedly brilliant end battle. The actual whole film is an SNL parody jumbled mess, a poor end to too many movies with too many fillers.
I’m glad you enjoy it though. I’m just glad us fans won. We got our Snyder Cut. When we were told we wouldn’t. We did. We won. & there’s literally NOTHING the haters can do. 👌 Absolute bliss👌
The fans won…. more importantly, Zack & Deborah got to finish their trilogy, in memory of their dear daughter.
@Chopper what about the dark knight
Some do, not all. Not even most
@@VVIASIP No. Most of it do. Granted, lately MCU is taking more serious & darker storylines which is good, but the 1st 3 phases of MCU feel mostly comedic, carefree, & low stakes. Comedic is fine, but when it overshadows the seriousness of the story, it'd feel like a comedy sketch & hard to be taken seriously. Look at Harry Potter saga, Star Wars OT & PT, LoTR. They had comedic moments but didn't overshadow the seriousness of the story. DC did it too in both Nolan & Zack's era. You've got comedy here & there, but still feels the seriousness of the story. You feel like if the heroes failed or if they succeed but created casualities, that world would be really f-ked & you'd sympathise with it. In MCU phase 1 to 3, you can't feel it at all, except the "haha, that's funny" then you'd forget that the world around those heroes could've been f-ked if the heroes failed. You'd forget that there were lots of casualities in that world from the battle between the heroes & the villains.
Honestly I prefer movies like this, because it feels more like it’s made by a filmmaker and less like a studio product kinda like the MCU.
I see your point , but his failed on a massive level and I’m talking the remake. MCU love it or hate it has made 100s of billions.
@@gavinvelez1468 lol 🤣😂 what?! Money dosen't mean quality kiddo.
Yeah! Me too! That's why it's trending
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
yea w
BOLLOCKS! I have 20/20 vision not 1:1!
As a massive fan of the MCU, he’s 100% right and Snyder Cut is incredible. I was glued for the whole 4hrs
He said that the marvel universe never comes to grips with civilians actually getting hurt but literally that's what the whole of captain america civil war was about. I agree with alot of what he said though.
They don’t acknowledge all the civilian deaths until Civil War, even though it’s like in its thousands. Civil War had that one explosion with Scarlet Witch, and that’s tiny compared to these aliens trying to invade earth with the help of Loki.
@@chunkycheese5247 Yeah but thats the Russo Brothers, which should have been there from the start but oh well
@aztekkthundergod they just did CW because of bvs. And its the First and movie that adresses it, nearly to Phase 3. So actually, je is right. There is just a too small amount of taking care about the consequences in the mcu. And since CW i expected them to Touch this more.
Let there be 2 unique universes, i will take it.
@aztekkthundergod I agree, he is wrong about a lot of stuff. It's ok to get excited and talk up this new version of Justice League...but you just can't take a dump on what Marvel have done with the MCU. The figures show that they nailed it in terms of reaching out to audiences. Growing up I was a massive DC fan, but I've become a huge fan of the MCU since 2008. Having said that I did really like the Snyder cut. I like that it wasn't trying so hard to copy the MCU. Sometimes when the opposition has gone so far ahead the only option is to try something different, not copy them! So well done Zack Snyder
The "booyah" was actually a reference to the teen titans animated series, I think.
It seems every blockbuster director has signed a contract stipulating there must be at least 200 more references than a Childish Gambino song.
Ben wouldn't know that.
@@jakebaker4066 There are more references in this movie than most Marvel movies.
@@billybatson7852 Are there? There are an incredible number of Easter eggs and references in the MCU, at least in the latest movies and Disney+ shows. The MCU definitely likes the free publicity that RUclips/Reddit theorists give them (I personally enjoy that aspect of them too).
It is 100% that
That “somethings definitely bleeding” line was kinda funny, but shouldn’t have been used in a DC movie, by Batman, after being brutally attacked by Superman 🤣
yes its funny in a bad way. like you can make a meme and laugh about it and laugh about the movie.
"I don't like Joss Whedon" - Immediately press the like button
Same here bro..but “don’t like” is putting it mildly.. 🤬
I make a point of liking the video after I’ve seen it.
Though after reading this comment, noticed I’d already hit it.
immediately pressed the like button to ur comment
The only good thing Whedon has done is Firefly.
He co-wrote The Cabin in the Woods, and that was great.
Marvel has always generally been more lighthearted, which isn't bad, but the "Snyder trilogy" (Man of Steel, Batman V Superman, and Snyder Cut Justice Leage) is definitely a breath of fresh air
It has but it shouldn't settle, hope this next phase and the inclusion of the XMen brings more thought provoking dialogue and stories
@@fredleeland2464 Yeah, and hopefully the X-men films would perhaps be more like *_Logan....._* Hard and mature, but respectful and meaningful.
Ehhhhhhh the first two movies are okay at best, justice league is a fun watch.
The dark ones like The Incredible Hulk and Thor the Dark world didn't clearly work that well. So marvel is good at what it's been doing but give DC to Snyder, please.
@@Josh-dy4lq Okay at best, their depth ignored.
Honestly man should drop politics and stick to being a movie critique, he’s pretty good
I agree, i would actually watch his channel
Movies don't matter. Politics does matter.
@@harrylongabaugh7402 LOL. Politics just divide people. It’s all about the money, not the human beings. Soon you will learn. Movies help us to escape this sad reality for a couple hours. So get outta here with that crap
@@harrylongabaugh7402 Politics don't bring anything positive lol. Just more complications and division for society. Films bring us together, and help us realize life's lessons.
As the man is fond of saying (besides facts don’t care about your feelings), two things can be true at the same time. Politics and movie reviews can exist in the same space
BvS is STILL my fav movie of all time. not only in "superhero movie" category, it's just good as a movie!
Than why it has a bad rotten tomato
@@morgiri9512 Rotten Tomato is always unreliable, imo. I prefer IMDB.
You can't judge a film just because some people rate it bad, you need to watch it yourself.
You enjoyed it, good. If you don't, I don't care, it's your reference.
Afterall, i said "MY fav movie of all time", maybe not for you.
@@morgiri9512 rotten tomato sucks
You should watch more movies
@@ghostlyripper4403 i know. But, SO FAR... BvS is still my fav. So many movies out there and i got no unlimited time, right?
“Destroying joss weaden with facts and logic” Ben u legend.
Then only gives his opinion
@@brandonrawlerson2226 r/wooosh
@@arbynChief617 r/whoosh
@@anonymoususer775 how
The best thing about Snyder's cut was not giving full credit of stopping Steppenwolf to superman as ultimate saviour and made it as team effort of all superheroes.
I think what you mean is that the team knew they needed him but in Snyder's movie they still went out to stop him having faith that Superman would come to help. In Joss's movie they were hopeless and were acting like they were powerless without Superman. The difference is huge. Batman brought together a team that would hold off Steppenwolf until Superman arrived in ZSJL and in the theatrical cut they were treated like a joke.
@@silverspear21 yes, Batman kept saying it, Fait, have faith,
while before Batman was like "We're criminals, Alfred. We've always been criminals. Nothing's changed"
He changed, from criminal to being HERO,
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@@Snowaxe3D Yes, his character evolution was great. You nailed it.
@@silverspear21 character evolution? There was BARELY character development
Ben: Not sure why Cyborg says "Boo-Yah!"
Me (a Teen Titans animated series fan): HE SAID THE THING!
I was even so disappointed he never said BOO-YAH!!!
@@christiankhaemba4318 here he is in justice league not in teen titans bruh
@@christiankhaemba4318 He never even said that in his 80s orignal comics idk where the cartoon got that nonsense from 😐
@@siouxsiexymox6594 boo yah! That's the sound cyborg makes.
@@alexandergordon4430 Not in the original comics lols 😆 🤣
Ben Shapiro just spoke out loud everything that a Zack Snyder fan believes since day one. 🔥
Dessad *"I told you the Snyder cut would have been a success"*
Darksied *"Yes, yes you did"*
Dessad "What will we do now, my lord?"
Darkseid "The SnyderVerse has been found Dessad, and we will stop at nothing to obtain it. Ready the hashtags, we will use the old ways."
#RestoretheSnyderVerse
@@ericwebb7888 Dont worry I'm sure HBO max will ride this go no where, second attempt, afterthought of a sucker draw as far as they can to milk the subset of DC fans that thought that the Snyder movies where worth pulling back out of the trash.
Ding ding ding da ding da ding ding...
@@ericwebb7888 Lol 😂, underrated comment.
@@drunkin12Many go watch marvel little kid or maybe man either one fits you perfectly🤡😆
@@drunkin12Many The worst movie of DC was made by the "finest" director of Marvel. If only Snyder's daughter didn't die, he would never have given this job to a deluded freak. Marvel is shit imo. Copy pasted everything from DC, cracks lame jokes in the middle of do-or-die war, the heroes aren't iconic, illogical theories.
Even though the head of Warner said they won’t bring back the snyderverse. The head of hbo Max tweeted out that the snyderverse isn’t cancelled yet they are deciding this month whether to continue his vision exclusively on hbo max.
Woot!!!
Our hero.
Let's pray that it happens. At least one last concluding JL2 would be cool.
❤️❤️❤️ for HBO
If the budget's good, I don't care...bring out more Snyder please and thank you.
Wb said, "The age of Snyder Verse would never come again."
Fans : *It will. It has to.*
#UsUnited
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
#Restorethesyderverse
The extended version of BvS was super amazing!!!
Best Batman ever
I absolutely love that Ben is an ardent fan of DC, and actually knows what he's talking about, and loves talking about it.
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
yeah he knows what he is talking about
Bet he's a New 52 groupie. Probably never read anything from the Silver Age where the REAL founding lineup came from without Cyborg!
He knows some things. But saying that he “knows what he’s talking about” is a stretch
I loved 300, I loved Watchmen, and I loved Man of Steel and Batman v Superman. I believed in Zack Snyder, and I want to see his Justice League to the end!
Just don't tell me you loved Suckerpunch. 🤮
@@JadeRunner loved Suckerpunch :-D
@@JadeRunner only snyder film I don't like
@@monetizedyay6827 did u watched the snyder cut of sucker punch its a beautiful movie.
@@aquibxqcl3398 no but I'll give it a watch
WB:let's move on
DC fans : Synder verse is found desaad and we will stop at nothing from seeing it
#restoresynderverse
this has to be the most accurate and precise ZS JL review in youtube, good job sir. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
Interesting that Whedon would call Trump a racist when the most egregious cuts to Justice League came at the expense of the women and people of color in the film, especially Cyborg. Cyborg had a level of character development in this film in a way I've never seen before. It literally makes no sense to cut any of his or his father's scenes, they actually filled in a lot of the gaps in the story.
Wokeness is the cover for what they claim they're against, but actually support.
Wow. Joss is really Whe-dumb
LOL
Your first mistake was believing that they care about anything besides themselves
Like all liberals, Jose Whedon is a hypocrite
Shapiro: “I actually really like Batman vs Superman”
Me: “Ah, a man of culture I see”
I just wish batman made a krytonite powered armor. I really loved nonetheless.
It was .... ok. But I totally agree with him on Batfleck. They did a great job right there. HOWEVER they made Superman so brooding and dark compared to the way the character actually is they had to make Batman basically the punisher. Because those two characters always had a contrast on how they operated from the very start of superhero comics. Snyder's take works best with characters are already dark. He drastically alters characters that aren't as dark which is a bit of an issue. Give him a Justice League dark movie ... that is where he will do best.
No somebody who doesn’t understand comic books
@@kashanti1 *ut
@@ronpetersen2317 You realize Snyder had a 5 movue vision and Superman is the central focus. By the end of it he would be the superman we all know and love. I kind of liied that Superman judt wasnt automatically some boyscout that always makes the right decision.
I never would have guessed that Ben Shapiro would give the best JL review on RUclips but yet here we are...
Politically I really hate him but every word he said in this video is verbatim mine.
@@AshrafAnam not trying to be rude, BUT WHY do people hate ben Shapiro, most trolls call him,
" The worst politician"
@@kartikadewi3270 The man's a hypocrite. He acts very smart with the quickness and speed of his talking and throwing statistics around but contradicts himself all the time when situations arise.
@@AshrafAnam
"Acts very smart with the quickness and speed of his talkingx Lmfao 🤭🤭🤭. I am dead. Dumbest argument I have heard this week.
@@Vinicantstopcrying Most unnecessary comment I've ever seen in my life 😂 😂 😂
*Great review of the ZSJL movie and glad you talked about those garbage Joss movies he makes as well.* 🙂
4:16-4:48 *Exactly!* 💪🏽
5:43-6:39 *Facts*
8:24-8:30 *Yup WonderBat forever.*
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
Zack even stayed on the movie after Autumn died, he tried to work through his grief to get the film finished and keep him distracted. Then they sent Geoff Johns in to "babysit" him, who then, without consulting Zack, brought on Joss Whedon, who in the end, only once talked to Zack and that was it. They interrupted the flow of the project and practically bullied Zack and his wife Deborah off the film, then carrying on without them and changing a lot of what Zack originally wanted to be in the film. At the premiere, Deborah and Christopher Nolan (who produced the films and even co-wrote Man of Steel) were there and saw the film, Zack couldn't come due to the pain of going, and they came back to him and told him "you can never see that film".
When they brought him back to release his cut of the film, they wanted it to be unfinished and on his laptop. He stated that he'd rather the film be a "mythical unicorn" than that.
Zack Snyder's relationship with WB is unbelievably toxic and abusive. As much as I'd love for him to get at least one more Justice League movie to wrap everything up, I wouldn't blame him at all if he never worked with Warner Bros. ever again, or at least until there's new management.
Yea that personally pissed me off too. And just so happens I wasn't the only one.
True, mate. WB is just toxic af. They got panic & took the wrong direction without really discussing it with the director (Zack). Then they threw him under the bus.
The audacity of them to suggest Zack to release the film in its unpolished raw form was disgusting. They clearly wanted to keep turning Zack to be the scapegoat of their recklessness, so the audience & the media would've got mad at him if the movie was released like they've suggested.
He’s garbage 😂
I personally enjoyed it. Good things happen when DC doesn’t try to be Marvel but instead stays true to what they are best at
I thought it was good, but Superman is still my least favorite version and Zack clearly doesn't care much about the characters. The best thing DC has put out for the past 20 years with multiple heroes is the JL cartoon... and that is much closer to what Marvel has done... because, you know... it's based on a comic book.
@@billybatson7852 i beg you stop crying in the comments 😭😂
@Diz Zkl
The comics are way more grittier and darker than all these happity hoppity goofy joke cracking nonsense you see on marvel movies so if you claim that the comics are made for kids why are they grittier and darker then?? and I read both dc and marvel comics so I know what I am talking about so by you saying that marvel movies should be used as a blue print for making all superhero movies is rediculous it's like saying that for example a transformer movie is released and becomes popular then transformers should be used as a blue print for all future robotic movies and that's just rediculous
@Diz Zkl Keep living in a past then.
@@billybatson7852 Nah bro Teen Titans and young justice are amazing and the dcau movies are also incredible movies.
Can we, as fans, start a lawsuit against Warner Brothers to force them to give up the rights to DC and place it in the hands of Christopher Nolan and Zack Snyder?
Edit -Addressing a common (a)question and (b)comment
A. I don't know what grounds we would actually have. Thats why I'm asking, can we?
B. As producers. I know they both said they didn't want to direct superhero movies anymore but it would be in great hands if they were the guys in charge at the top.
I would so much be up for that. But DC is now also run by agenda driven morons. So not sure it would actually solve anything.
Snyder said he doesn't want to do another superhero movie.
Lets buy warner media, like GME. *#RestoreTheSnyderVerse**!*
I'm all onboard that train
Yes, all the geeks with nothing to do can take part
Rest Well Little One 🖤🧸
#ForAutum
Wasn’t she in her 20s?
I never thought ben shapiro of all people would do movie reviews let alone about zack snyders justice league.
I'm happy this got recommended.
Well Shapiro is super into AynRand-ism and Snyder makes a lot of Rand references and libertarian conversations so it makes sense why he would like MOS/BVS/JL in particular
I'm not into that individualist philosophy by any means but I appreciate the conversation and artwork Snyder alludes to.
@@kevinlinsley9594 big lol
@Kevin Linsley Shapiro's thoughts about comic book movies is verbatim my thoughts. But I don't even know who Ayn Rand is. Politically, Shapiro's a douche and a hypocrite. I strongly oppose him politically. There's no way Ayn Rand or whatever has anything to do with his liking MoS or BvS. It's just plain idiotic to assume so.
@@AshrafAnam uhm
Its more idiotic to challenge my point when YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO Ayn Rand is....
Snyder LITERALLY and purposefully references Ayn Rand several times throughout his trilogy.
Ayn Rand is an old 20th century writer of soviet decent.
She always wrote of her philosophy "objectivism"
She is a God to all Libertarians and Free-Market lovers.
She hated anything about "collectivism" and constantly said the world would be a better place if Man would strive to only help themselves.
By fullfilling your own desires somehow that makes the world a better place.
Shapiro loves Ayn Rand. Every Pro-free-marketeer does.
Its not the ONLY reason why he likes Snyders trilogy...but I'm sure the Ayn Rand references tickles Shapiro just right
@@kevinlinsley9594 Your point is incredibly stupid. Countless people around the world including me who love BvS and know it as a CBM masterpiece and not having a clue who Ayn Rand clearly refutes your ignorant point. Please stop hating Zack Snyder and stop being butthurt that people love his comic book films, idiot.
Just finished the Snyder Cut. It is absolutely insane how different Josstice League and Snyder Cut are. And it unconscionable once you know why Zach Snyder had to leave. That is absolutely fucked up. What they did to him.
Shut up
@@gimu9834 Go pound sand
In Hollywood there is no equation that values human life over money.
@@disturbedone8731 Shut up
@@gimu9834 ??? Lol
Steppenwolf actually has a relatively good story in the Snyder’s versions.
Steppenwolf betrayed DarkSeid in his siege to the throne, and because of that, he was banished from Apokolips. Now Steppenwolf must conquer roughly 50,000 + planets in DarkSeid’s name just to redeem himself and return home to his family 😬
It’s sad seeing how mighty Steppenwolf is until he begins to beg on his knees to DeSaad to ask if he could make a plea to DarkSeid. DarkSeid is like this relentless, uncaring, destructive force that Steppenwolf has to serve and does whatever he can to impress, regardless if he actually wants to.
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Darkseid. But you are correct on all other counts. :)
Steppemwolf was a great band
@@richardstrong6225 Yes it was 🗿
And steppenwolf is darkseid's uncle
Bro this is so great. I didn't know that Ben did stuff outside of politics. I really enjoyed this
I don't know what is worse. Living in a world where we didn't get Zack's Justice League or Getting such a Awesome version of Justice League and it not continuing. Pandora's Box conundrum.
I think we were better off not knowing sadly.
The first option is the worst! I'm so happy and grateful we got to see Snyder's original vision! I have hope that we will see a continuation to this universe!
I'm glad it failed, since it allowed DC to move beyond Snyder and create a more interesting tapestry of films than stay with in Snyder's frame work. We'd never gotten Aquaman, Shazam, or the Joker staying on his roadmap.
You forgot to mention how Zak put the suicide prevention website in the movie . He did it because his daughter took her life and he wants to help
Yea, he’s a good guy at the end of the day who just wants to release his material that the fans want, and to help people who are in bad situations that he’s had to deal with
from what I saw he only mentioned that their logo was somehow on the site and he said he is not affiliated with them
@Filosofía Gaming Wait... Can you please elaborate on that? He got invited to a stream that wanted to raise money for suicide prevention and at the start he called fans racists? Please tell me if I got that right or not. I really want to know.
@Filosofía Gaming
Technically he said WB and him do not associate with G&G, and then directly after he said that he doesn’t support Asian Hate crimes whatsoever.
Those two things are separate topics that are now being implied to be together because he said them one after the other. What one of the hosts should’ve done is had him clarify whether he meant those as separate things or if he meant them together, because now we don’t actually know if he meant that or not.
@@blackZ34all
Read my reply to the other guy, it says what you need to know. You should also watch the vid from the stream to see exactly what Snyder said himself
The Warner Bros bosses must be Shitting themselves as they didn’t want the Snyder cut released ooops
Not really. At the time, BvS had done so terribly in the minds of most people that it wouldn't have done so great. Even if you just go by HBO Max's own numbers, you can see that. This long awaited version didn't even do better than WW84.
@@billybatson7852 yes it actually did my guy. The numbers don’t lie. Most people actually liked this better than the crap WW sequel, and that’s form an objective stand point. Because it’s a better film. Thanks to Zack. For someone named after a dc character you sure do hate the idea that Snyder’s cut exceeded pretty well.
@@billybatson7852 It 100% did better than WW84 lmao what?
@@billybatson7852 BvS did make almost 900 million. No matter how you slice it, that's a good chunk of change. Not to mention the fact that the extended 3 hour cut was very well received. ZSJL is actually killing it numbers wise. BvS UE blu-ray rerelease sold out on pre-order everywhere in 12 minutes. I wouldn't be surprised if ZSJL does well in home video sales as well.
All of that being said, the decision makers at WB should have been embarrassed a long time ago given how much of there meddling has been so public and with such terrible results. There decision to sign off on Josstice League was bad enough. I mean the fucking movie started off with that horror show of a mouth on Henry Cavill, and they still gave the thumbs up as is. The fact that they chose that, when they had the principal photography of ZSJL and could have had some 3 hour version is beyond embarrassing. It's a fireable offence for all parties involved.
@@alcitrullo3124 Quick facts, Al:
That BvS number sounds really good until you realize that Marvel was making close to that amount with a talking raccoon and tree movie while DC had put forth their two most famous assets... which are two of the most famous superheroes in history.
ZSJL did very well, but had fewer viewers than WW84.
Stop calling it Josstice League, kid. Snyder destroyed Superman in Man of Steel by making his dad a complete asshole who suggested that it would be okay if he let a bunch of children die. That's not Superman.
Yes, the studio fucked up. But Snyder had made such a mess of the entire thing for the first two movies, what did you expect?
Zack doesn't even know how Flash's powers originated, for god's sake. lol
I love BvS too! People are emphasising too much on the Martha scene while overlooking all of the other merits.
I always like when Ben does these. It is nice to see Ben can enjoy non political things and give a nice in-depth opinion on comic movies.
Snyder is an objectivist which is why Shapiro and other conservatives like him. This is 100% political.
@@adamgates1142 you think so? I didn't get that from justice league but for sure Batman vs Superman
@@adamgates1142 maybe the movie is good and not everything in life has to be about politics
@@dietmntdew yeah
Plus he’s like the only Daily Wire host who doesn’t dump on superhero movies just for being superhero movies and gives a fair honest opinion.
I love when he does this pop culture nonsense, great comedic relief from the headache that’s reality.
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>nonsense
>comedic relief
yeah, you don't actually understand Ben, dude. he is 100% serious here... he likes comic books and science fiction.
@Alfred Alfred only if you pick up 100% of the things he says as fact,sometimes Ben is disingenuous and sometimes completely misses the mark,his best weapon is generalizing “the left” by 1 tweet or 1 persons actions,as Ben says...two things can be true at once,you can watch Ben and have similar views,but also call the BS when you hear it...
@@justsomeguywithoutamustach9072 holy shit thank you. Ben sometimes has holes in his arguments, it’s safe to check his sources to check if Ben is telling the truth or not, but Shapiro fans take too many of his points as 100% fact
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Watchmen is such an underrated movie in general not even just as a super hero movie.
It’s one of my favorite movies of all time
The directors cut is simply amazing. High up there in my favorite movies.
That was the movie made me fall in love with Snyder
The Guardians of Ga'Hoole was actually pretty underrated as well. Sucker Punch was a surprisingly good movie as well with not only fun action, but some surprisingly poignant thematic ideas and symbolism. I think the point of that movie going completely over the heads of most of the critics is what turned them against him going forward because "muh sexism," even though Sucker Punch wasn't promoting sexism...
@@Tyler_W sucker punch was visually creative, with alright choreography, and a god awful movie
MCU frames looks like TV series.
Snyder DCEU frames looks like a comic book/graphic novel.
For a comic book movie, it's pretty apparent which style that respects & fits the comic book movie subgenre.
WB: No more Snyderverse
Zack Snyder: we’re going aboutit the old fashion way. Ready my Armada! #restoretheSnyderVerse!
Faxxx
Apparently HBO Max is going to restore it
@@bamaboyz8978 is that a fact?
*Desaad : I Told you, did I not, my Master, WB will not let them do JL 2*
*How will you get your sequel ?*
*Darkseid : Justice league is found Desaad and we will stop at nothing to get the sequel*
*Ready the hashtags, we will use the Old ways*
*#RestoreTheSnyderverse*
*All of Twitter Shall. Be. Ours🔥*
@@Phoenix-King-ozai good one
Question: Will the SnyderVerse be restored?
Batman: “If there’s even a one per cent chance, then we have to take it as an absolute certainty!”
#restorethesnyderverse
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse
Sure... with Ben Affleck dropping out of The Batman... Cavill not too interested anymore... and Ray Fisher refusing to work with multiple execs. I wouldn't take that bet.
Yeah.... Never ever going to happen. LoL it's over people get over it. Snyder verse is dead forever
@@Jon-pw2ik 😂😂😂😂
@@billybatson7852 You do understand all those actors were mad at Joss Whedon right?
I laughed so hard when he compared Marvel movies to Buffy the Vampire Slayer. 😂
Fact: Ben loves DC than Marvel's.
Wait until you see Black Adam
@@leroyvermilion7708 I hope its great
@@leroyvermilion7708 can't wait!!!
@@yunidhkumar5571 I’m interested to see how the rock does. He hasn’t played a villain in years.
@@excaliburknives3572 rumor says he wants superman to face off againts black Adam
With all of the positive fan reactions to the Snyder Cut, I don't see how WB can just scrap parts 2 and 3 without severely ruining their reputation as a studio at this point. #WeWantMore
If the sequels will be anything like the Snyder cut, I am very glad they will not be making any.
@@stipe9k oh pls.. just stfu
@@lp.shakur Why? Because I have an opinion?
@@stipe9k Because you are supporting corporate greed.
@@memecliparchives2254 Now you're reaching. I'm not supporting corporate greed. I simply don't want any sequels to a bad film.
Cyborg saying booyah was actually a reference to the original Teen Titans cartoon, which was very popular, and where he says it all the time. It's his calling card.
Yeahh, exactly
Buutt doesn't really make Sense considering this one was never part if the teen Titans
It doesn't suit his character portrayal in ZSJL, not everything has to be comic accurate to the 100th percentile. It didn't suit for him to say it in ZSJL, so I understand why he had an issue with it when Joss stepped in and had him say that line.
@@SPECTRA890 The Teen Titans are part of the DC Universe as a whole. It would not surprise me if they get included later on in the DCEU.
That Cyborg coincidentally was way cooler.
@@Riparay121 It only appears in the Theatrical version of Justice, which had a somewhat campier tone. It's not in Zack Snyder's Justice League, which was darker.
The Snydercut is sort of a unique phenomenon in modern culture - like Ben says, it LITERALLY demonstrates how much better art turns out, if the artist is actually allowed to do his thing, and has the final say in what is being done to the creation.
Except for every other director's cut out there, but I get your point.
@@KarmaKahn lol seriously
@@KarmaKahn This is different because the theatrical cut and this version are sooooo different
@@Edbrad That is not a first, not even for this genre. Superman II from 1980 had a similar fate to Justice League where the original director was replaced and they did re-shoots. The Richard Donner cut is a totally different movie. Like with JL, most of the theatrical material were thrown out.
I want 10 hour version of Once Upon a Time in America 1984 It was cut from 10 to 6 than to 2 and later 3.5h version
I really wish they extend the snyderverse of DC because I wanna see how the story goes from there
This is why i love movies!!! Makes people agree with people they don't agree with 99% of the time
Exactly how i feel
@@A.I_Harmony This has nothing to do with that my dude😂
@@A.I_Harmony lmao, you don't need to be a woke idiot to think Ben is an idiot
@@A.I_Harmony nope
When you realize Ben Shapiro is a geek.. He becomes a full on badass, as if that was anymore possible.
No?
I’ll withhold “geek” status until he reveals his favorite character class and edition of Dungeons and Dragons.
@@23Raind The Rise of Skywalker
@@donalddouds6033 Geeks are all forms; not limited to one or the other. Whereas i agree with you. Dungeons and Dragons is way more obscure than the DC Universe.
meh, everyone is a "geek" these days. He's just jumping on the bandwagon. you can clearly hear in his review the lack of knowledge on both DC and marvel comics and the movies. Batman throws jokes around as much as marvel characters do, if he was a fan, he would know this. He clearly is grasping at straws to seem like he is in the know.
If HBO MAX was smart they would let Snyder go free reign on the rest of his vision. It was a great movie.
That’d be a lotta negotiation with actors who’ve already been replaced and a lot of resources
Its not about HBO but WB being retarded. HBO is more than willing to help out once it comes to Snyderverse
I would argue that Zack didn’t “remake “the movie. Whedon remade the movie. Zack finished what he started.
The original justice league was a 2/10, the Snyder cut was a 9/10
I had no idea that I even wanted such a thing but wow, suddenly I'm into the entire universe again.
8.5/10
Because there are people that like to tell what is good for all, whatever we think about it.
@@daniellee3507 yeah like there are quite a lot of plot holes so it is
Like 8/10
I wish i was as easily impressed about movies as you are. Snyder cut was enjoyable but 9.5? Holy fuck
@@DeathShock28 if that's the case then endgame is full of plotholes. Oh shut up, there is only one plothole in snydercur, but I won't say it's a plothole cause we never knew about darkseid arc. So, shut up
Cyborg said "booyah" because that's his catchphrase in the Teen Titans animated show, which virtually every Millenial and Zoomer has seen and loves.
He's a much more serious character in the comics. I love both TT and original Cyborg, but 'Booyah' would be so misplaced in a film of this tone. I guess it fit in the 2017 one where they where looking for cheap excitement
@@TheSkyrimInquisitor I think if paced properly, it could've been fit, but it won't contain the usual tone, so who knows.
And its a rwcist trope of black characters. When you have a black character saying these one liners.
I'm 34. I haven't seen Teen Titans, and don't care to. But I know several 30 and under folks who love it. I'm guessing that my age is kind of the cutoff. I also hate SpongeBob. Most people my age and older do. I think early 90s babies and forward are of a different stock.
@@Brian_Crow The original Teen Titans show was great for what it was, it gets overhyped a lot, but its real value was being like an early western anime where both a dark serious nature and comedy mixed well. The character interactions and the shows semi-continuous nature played well for what it was. (even if it was fairly alone and isolated)
For Spongebob it really depends on era of the episode and mood, its like the Simpsons, which does not work for every mood and has its own eras, if you choose too early, the medium wasn't fleshed out, too late and its total garbage, (and lost any charm, becoming an unbearable children's show) they both have a golden age.
When flash does his thing at the end of the film and basically saves the day... shit man is one of my favourite scenes from any superhero film I’ve seen and I’ve seen them all
Ikr
Epic fuckin moment
@@Crunch_Buttsteak 👊🏾👊🏾
Ever seen The Flash TV show? He did a very similar thing where he reversed time after Arrow's body was obliterated and an entire city (or maybe world) was being destroyed just like in this movie. Yes, the Flash scene in ZSJL was cool, but it's been done similarly before.
@@billybatson7852 oooo
Snyderverse is coming. Be patient 2023