Am I missing something? The most important part of this video would have been the before and after. I understand results are going to vary on different VTXs buuuuuuuuut ya did it help yours?
Yeah I thought that was strange. JB's pretty busy these days, but I figured a quick test and some anecdotal thoughts would be a nice conclusion to the video.
i just tested this mod default zero cal to -1 then -2. -2 worked best at high power (whoop lite board 350mw) 25mw suffered a lil but high power did way better. But didnt think to record audio say what power levels and what direction im facing. but went from cal 0 it only goto 40mbps at 350mw at point blank range. only 25mw hit 50mbps. -1 25mw and 200mw hit 50mbps but 350mw still point blank would drop to 40mbps . -2 high power hit 50mbps. tested another whoop lite board and i needed -2 to keep 50mbps in high power in other room
@divingfalconfpv4602 Thanks for the info,I'm also having issues with my 1s kit on the new Goggles X and they sent me this video.I will check my micro quad and try your values.
1200mW has performed pretty much exactly as expected in my testing. Not sure where this rumour about 1200 came from, but I suspect that any differences to DJI on max power has more to do with the transceiver settings than the power level. In my range testing, 700mw went to 6.9km, and 1200mw went to 8.1. There is 2.34dB increase between 700 and 1200, which should be a range increase of 1.31x. If we multiply 6.9km by 1.31 we get 8.97km, which granted isn’t the same number as 8.1, but not far off within the limits of real world testing.
Thanks for this clarification. Now watch as people recalibrate their perfectly working VTX to make it worse based solely on speculation that 1200mW isn't really 1200mW 😂
I have tests showing less stable link at 1200 than 700. More variation in latency and bitrate. Obviously your results are unimpeachable, but it's not just a rumor.
i have the vrx.and running the latest firmware on both..on 1000 and 1200mw i get the low signal focus in half the distance penetration compared to 700mw.same location of goggles and drone.
I will take my V2 VTX with me to work today and will plug into a Spectrum Analyser to run some checks on actual power levels after recalibration and do some low signal tests on 50 Mbps .. makes perfect sense reducing drive to PA will fix this, kudos to Walksnail sharing the way to do it!
@Vadim Osochenko The V2.0 HD did not need recal, it was stable at 50 Mbps at 30.5 dbm into 50 ohms as is. My two V1.0 though did have the full power problem, dropping cal by 1 digit did improve 1200 mW setting with only a minor drop in power (0.5 dbm). Measured power for both slightly different but still over 30 dbm. I only checked the 700 mW level it dropped in scale but was over to start with. All were close to what they should be (+14, +23, +27, +29) give or take a bit. For those worried about the mW number could do a chart but as device spread will impact your milage may vary. db wise all
using non-garbage antennae on the *VTX* as well as on the goggles makes quite a difference. I tested inexpensive iFlight sigmas against the included walksnail antennas and am definitely seeing better range and more consistent bitrate figures. Note that this is with the V1 transmitters and stock antennae. I have a couple of V2 combos on the way and am eager to see how the “improved” antenna compares against the old one.
I would expect the calibration value to change all power settings. You could answer your question though. Use the stock v2 VTX (single antenna) to collect a value using your RF power meter at 1200, 700, 200, and 25 mw. Then lower the value of the calibration and then recollect the values. Repeat a couple calibration values. That should show you that its adjusting it across the power ranges.
for this to work there is an 'average value' setting to tell the power meter that the signal is digital. It would work and be easy to test with the single antenna units.
I've not applied this calibration yet, but I've to say that my WS goggles, works better at 1200 mW than 700 mW. The point is that my use case is probably different that the case used to execute test. I normally use WS for long range and there in my test there turn out that 1200 mW 50 mbits grant more distance before loosing bandwitdh that any other configuration. I'll apply the calibration and then I'll do an other test.
Joshua, it appears you interchaged Video Transmitter and Goggles several times, almost implying the Vtx is in the Goggles, rather then the Vrx. That debug data and 'calibration' sounds very much like it's turning down an output of a Video ProcAmp, so not to overdrive the input stage of the Vtx signal amp.
Every vTX is going to have different results depending on the characteristics of its amp. There's no point in doing a single test of a single vTX and publishing the result. The point is, if you want to try it, you can.
@@JoshuaBardwell yeah there is. We've seen enough videos where you fly around your property and you're like "here's where I usually lose video," "here's where the signal gets dodgy," etc. Surely if it made a clear difference you could say "yeah, I can see it made a difference for me." Of course our mileage may vary. But if it makes no difference or gets worse, maybe we won't bother.
Every vTX is going to have different results depending on the characteristics of its amp. There's no point in doing a single test of a single vTX and publishing the result. The point is, if you want to try it, you can.
@@JoshuaBardwell one of the reason some of us would like to see if it works (even if the result may differ depending on different vtxes) is that people are wondering about buying O3/Walksnail and would like to know if there is any chance to pay less (Walksnail) and have something similar to the King (O3). Also please keep in mind that we like your reviewes/tips/all_videos so much because you share with us your thoughts and practical usage of such advices 😉
@@JoshuaBardwell I would say even knowing that each VTX/VRX is likely different. It would still be a valuable contribution to test and see if this has helped in your specific case. Just like some people report great results while others report unsatisfactory results with Walksnail/Avatar in general. This may be the missing key to help those with poor experience bring their system up to par with others who are happy. Plus let us all know how much one increment changes. Etc etc.
I wanted to root for walksnail but their QC is just lacking. Even the new m181gps that they have have the scl and sda pad labels swapped out, and never bothered to put a PSA for the vendors, to let the buyer know that it's reversed.
@@Simofly i just bought a new one for my diatone Roma l5 and it still flipped. But i realized it's A BAD idea to run a compass on a beta flight quadcopter. Mine work for a while until the gps and the magnetometer contradicted each other and my quad got so confused it just yaw back and forth and crashed. I know the mag is not adviced but i was being hard headed. So i would just go for the flywoo nano V3 because it's way smaller and I've confirmed that it locks to satellites faster. For a gps a size of my nails, it's cheaper performs better and can be powderd by a 3.3v. if walksnail wanted my money, they are going to have to make a new gps that can compete with the flywoo nano gps.
@@jdnic1wow ok so I have one here to install and I’ll check it out if it’s swapped too ! I’m using it on inav so magnetometer is a must , but I agree with you that n beta flight is not worth it at all , with new bf 4.4 gps rescue is fantastic as it is with only the gps
So in the txt file, you typed in: S 26 , -1 and inserted this text into the vTX and rebooted the vTX. So, now the new calibration is S 9 , -1. What does the 9 mean?
The numbers in that position are the actual output power of the device at this time, in dBm. Walksnail has dynamic power so it's not always at max power.
Can i use a 1s whoop charger to charge individual cells of a 4s pack? (Im thinking of connecting each of the 4 cells via the balance lead.) I think its probably safe 1 cell at a time but not sure if i can do all 4 ;)
@@JoshuaBardwell I just unlocked it and I get the channels but can’t get more than 500mw and can’t get more than 25mbps on my goggles x. I get all the channels now. I added both files.
The 1S vTX won't go over 500 mW, but really it's 350 mW. It doesn't go higher than that. It definitely should be able to do 50 Mbps, assuming it's unlocked.
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Am I missing something? The most important part of this video would have been the before and after. I understand results are going to vary on different VTXs buuuuuuuuut ya did it help yours?
Yeah I thought that was strange. JB's pretty busy these days, but I figured a quick test and some anecdotal thoughts would be a nice conclusion to the video.
I thought the same I was waiting for the test but nothing …
i just tested this mod default zero cal to -1 then -2. -2 worked best at high power (whoop lite board 350mw) 25mw suffered a lil but high power did way better. But didnt think to record audio say what power levels and what direction im facing. but went from cal 0 it only goto 40mbps at 350mw at point blank range. only 25mw hit 50mbps. -1 25mw and 200mw hit 50mbps but 350mw still point blank would drop to 40mbps . -2 high power hit 50mbps.
tested another whoop lite board and i needed -2 to keep 50mbps in high power in other room
@divingfalconfpv4602 Thanks for the info,I'm also having issues with my 1s kit on the new Goggles X and they sent me this video.I will check my micro quad and try your values.
1200mW has performed pretty much exactly as expected in my testing. Not sure where this rumour about 1200 came from, but I suspect that any differences to DJI on max power has more to do with the transceiver settings than the power level.
In my range testing, 700mw went to 6.9km, and 1200mw went to 8.1. There is 2.34dB increase between 700 and 1200, which should be a range increase of 1.31x. If we multiply 6.9km by 1.31 we get 8.97km, which granted isn’t the same number as 8.1, but not far off within the limits of real world testing.
Thanks for this clarification. Now watch as people recalibrate their perfectly working VTX to make it worse based solely on speculation that 1200mW isn't really 1200mW 😂
I have tests showing less stable link at 1200 than 700. More variation in latency and bitrate. Obviously your results are unimpeachable, but it's not just a rumor.
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i have the vrx.and running the latest firmware on both..on 1000 and 1200mw i get the low signal focus in half the distance penetration compared to 700mw.same location of goggles and drone.
@Captain I wonder if you check the setting in yours if it is a .1 or .2 instead of a .0?
I will take my V2 VTX with me to work today and will plug into a Spectrum Analyser to run some checks on actual power levels after recalibration and do some low signal tests on 50 Mbps .. makes perfect sense reducing drive to PA will fix this, kudos to Walksnail sharing the way to do it!
Any worth while results you’d like to share?
Any news?
@Vadim Osochenko The V2.0 HD did not need recal, it was stable at 50 Mbps at 30.5 dbm into 50 ohms as is. My two V1.0 though did have the full power problem, dropping cal by 1 digit did improve 1200 mW setting with only a minor drop in power (0.5 dbm). Measured power for both slightly different but still over 30 dbm. I only checked the 700 mW level it dropped in scale but was over to start with. All were close to what they should be (+14, +23, +27, +29) give or take a bit. For those worried about the mW number could do a chart but as device spread will impact your milage may vary. db wise all
@@tecknolt2695 Thanks for the detailed answer. Add please it as a separate comment so more people can see it
using non-garbage antennae on the *VTX* as well as on the goggles makes quite a difference. I tested inexpensive iFlight sigmas against the included walksnail antennas and am definitely seeing better range and more consistent bitrate figures. Note that this is with the V1 transmitters and stock antennae. I have a couple of V2 combos on the way and am eager to see how the “improved” antenna compares against the old one.
I would expect the calibration value to change all power settings. You could answer your question though. Use the stock v2 VTX (single antenna) to collect a value using your RF power meter at 1200, 700, 200, and 25 mw. Then lower the value of the calibration and then recollect the values. Repeat a couple calibration values. That should show you that its adjusting it across the power ranges.
for this to work there is an 'average value' setting to tell the power meter that the signal is digital.
It would work and be easy to test with the single antenna units.
I want to see your results in a flight test.
I've not applied this calibration yet, but I've to say that my WS goggles, works better at 1200 mW than 700 mW. The point is that my use case is probably different that the case used to execute test. I normally use WS for long range and there in my test there turn out that 1200 mW 50 mbits grant more distance before loosing bandwitdh that any other configuration. I'll apply the calibration and then I'll do an other test.
"more than a year ago"
Holy shit, the rate at which time is passing is so scary
Yeah, DJI came out almost 4 years ago. In FPV this used to be ages.
Joshua, it appears you interchaged Video Transmitter and Goggles several times, almost implying the Vtx is in the Goggles, rather then the Vrx.
That debug data and 'calibration' sounds very much like it's turning down an output of a Video ProcAmp, so not to overdrive the input stage of the Vtx signal amp.
No testing???
Every vTX is going to have different results depending on the characteristics of its amp. There's no point in doing a single test of a single vTX and publishing the result. The point is, if you want to try it, you can.
@@JoshuaBardwell sure there is. If yours works there’s a chance it could work for others right?
@@JoshuaBardwell yeah there is. We've seen enough videos where you fly around your property and you're like "here's where I usually lose video," "here's where the signal gets dodgy," etc. Surely if it made a clear difference you could say "yeah, I can see it made a difference for me." Of course our mileage may vary. But if it makes no difference or gets worse, maybe we won't bother.
@@JoshuaBardwell plus you have that beautiful spreadsheet with all of those data points .This test would fit right in there.
i have been trying to tell people to do this since we found out about these cal values
I'm getting range of about 100m using the 25mw we're allowed here, where i have suspected nearby interference from a railway transmitter. 😭
Same procedure applicable to 1s VTX? (Mine drops to 40mbit if I set it to max 350mw power. But at 200mw it stays at 50mbit.)
Reply to myself : yes it works I get 50mbps at full power now. Value was .1, changed to 0
Very interesting indeed! Thanks, Joshua! 😊
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Does this work with the vtx module also?
Does this apply to their VRX as well?
This is a vTX calibration. It is the same whatever RX you are using.
So what dbm am I looking for? Mine is showing s 10 : 0. And gnd 10 : 2.
does it reset to default calibration when vtx gets an update ?
Hi Joshua, that calibration mod it’s for the v1 or v2 vtx? Thank for the video!
Both.
Has anybody been to do this on Moonlight VTX? I put the Avatar_cal.txt on an SD card and put into the VTX, booted it up and it didn't adjust.
what foam are you using in those goggles? thanks
Yeah I need Mads Tech to do a test video for this pls.😊
Turn down 4 watt?
Please put some testing of this
Every vTX is going to have different results depending on the characteristics of its amp. There's no point in doing a single test of a single vTX and publishing the result. The point is, if you want to try it, you can.
@@JoshuaBardwell one of the reason some of us would like to see if it works (even if the result may differ depending on different vtxes) is that people are wondering about buying O3/Walksnail and would like to know if there is any chance to pay less (Walksnail) and have something similar to the King (O3). Also please keep in mind that we like your reviewes/tips/all_videos so much because you share with us your thoughts and practical usage of such advices 😉
@@JoshuaBardwell
I would say even knowing that each VTX/VRX is likely different. It would still be a valuable contribution to test and see if this has helped in your specific case.
Just like some people report great results while others report unsatisfactory results with Walksnail/Avatar in general. This may be the missing key to help those with poor experience bring their system up to par with others who are happy.
Plus let us all know how much one increment changes. Etc etc.
@@1967friend yes, then why did you do the test with walksnail in the first place...? Just saying.
I wanted to root for walksnail but their QC is just lacking. Even the new m181gps that they have have the scl and sda pad labels swapped out, and never bothered to put a PSA for the vendors, to let the buyer know that it's reversed.
I feel the same. I want them to be better than dji but I still remember the days of buying caddx cameras and always having dust on their sensors.
Didn’t know that , so everygps is swapped or it’s just a batch ?
@@Simofly i just bought a new one for my diatone Roma l5 and it still flipped. But i realized it's A BAD idea to run a compass on a beta flight quadcopter. Mine work for a while until the gps and the magnetometer contradicted each other and my quad got so confused it just yaw back and forth and crashed. I know the mag is not adviced but i was being hard headed. So i would just go for the flywoo nano V3 because it's way smaller and I've confirmed that it locks to satellites faster. For a gps a size of my nails, it's cheaper performs better and can be powderd by a 3.3v. if walksnail wanted my money, they are going to have to make a new gps that can compete with the flywoo nano gps.
@@jdnic1wow ok so I have one here to install and I’ll check it out if it’s swapped too ! I’m using it on inav so magnetometer is a must , but I agree with you that n beta flight is not worth it at all , with new bf 4.4 gps rescue is fantastic as it is with only the gps
So in the txt file, you typed in: S 26 , -1 and inserted this text into the vTX and rebooted the vTX. So, now the new calibration is S 9 , -1. What does the 9 mean?
The numbers in that position are the actual output power of the device at this time, in dBm. Walksnail has dynamic power so it's not always at max power.
@@JoshuaBardwellwill 1200mw hack work on walksnail recons box goggles?
Can i use a 1s whoop charger to charge individual cells of a 4s pack? (Im thinking of connecting each of the 4 cells via the balance lead.)
I think its probably safe 1 cell at a time but not sure if i can do all 4 ;)
Just bought Walksnail VRX from Flywoo, 179 dollar. 😊
I'm so happy I read the comments. :) I used the newuser code and got it for 170! Cheers and thanks for the tip!
Is 1200 mw still available? I have a new mobula8 and I can’t get more than 25mbps and 500mw
Yes absolutely. But maybe you have the 1s board. It won't go over 350 mW.
@@JoshuaBardwellhum. I have the mobula8. Would the vtx on the mobula 8 have the 1 cell version ? And can I get 50mbps ?
It definitely should do 50 Mbps. Did you unlock it?
@@JoshuaBardwell I just unlocked it and I get the channels but can’t get more than 500mw and can’t get more than 25mbps on my goggles x. I get all the channels now. I added both files.
The 1S vTX won't go over 500 mW, but really it's 350 mW. It doesn't go higher than that.
It definitely should be able to do 50 Mbps, assuming it's unlocked.
Lighting looking a little off in this video?
I guess his editor didn't work on this one. I guess Joshua made it fast and posted it.
I keep flying mine on just 200mw.... plenty of signal and bitrate out to 1km....For the Bando Boys, 1200mw will never be enough....🤔😳😳😏😏🇬🇧
My Sky was 26 0 and G was 30 1. Hmmm. V2 vtx.
I'm having HORRIBLE luck with the set I won at rampage. May email you later. This isn't the issue though I'm having some kind of FW issue
Was this ever addressed?
I sent this to you in an email 19 days ago :/
Thank you!
What a Faff, why should the consumer have to fix something that should have been done in the factory.
So everything should be perfect and no firmware updates never needed for any product... Oh what a wonderful world it would be.