I used to have an open bite (5mm) and most orthodontists had suggested extractions since I couldn't afford surgery. So I opted for a camouflage technique instead, osseous genioplasty to fix my protruding chin, 4 premolar extractions (wisdom teeth had already been extracted), lingual braces with tads for 2 years. I now have wire attachments behind my front teeth and wear a retainer for 12 hours a day and a tongue crib to better help me position my tongue. It has been worth it.
@@Faithmay96 did you also have to correct your tongue posture // do myofunctional therapy or was that not needed because it wasn't a problem/the bite never opened back up?
I didn't see you putting palatal elastics Doc. At the part you said you were losing to much torque on the lateral segment. I only saw lingual button but no elastics.
Where did the condyles move? Downward? Forward or Backward? If you use the elastics to close the bite, the condyles move somewhere inevitably. It can be the cause of Temporomandibular disorder in the future with high probability. Nobody shows what's happening in the temporomandibular joints. It is just like you are throwing the kitchen trash into the living room. vice versa.
I had an open bite a year and a half ago. I had braces on my teeth and had the premolars removed in the upper jaw. Currently, I have severe difficulty pronouncing the letters S and Z. Will this problem continue or is there a solution for it?
I painfully regret my parents decision to do to me an orthodontic camouflage. I now have speech issues and no space for my tongue, joint degeneration, and problems to get a proper treatment (surgery) because of the orthodontic camouflage.
I understand what you have been through. The camouflage is the disguised expression which does not deserve. It is 'wrong' plan that causes another serious problem by doctor. Recently I was astonished to see so many animations like this. Human body cannot be explained by animation. Nobody tells what is happening in the temporomandibular joints and the proper function of the teeth, that is 'the occlusal function'. Please find the competent orthodontist who knows 'the occlusion'.
@@brace-p9x Hi, thanks a lot for the response. I'm currently in the middle of creating an orthodontic plan to prepare me for a surgery and wear an occlusal splint daily to help me with migraines and to reposition my jaw to its original place. But let me tell you, the camouflage caused me so many issues, that even after 10 years I still bad mouth the person who did this camouflage.
@@ania6118 Degenerated condyles tend to resorb again after surgery especially when the lower jaw surgery is done. I am somewhat relieved to know you are wearing the splint, hopefully for jaw stabilization. The other important thing is the ability of the surgeon. I hope you have a good result.
But what about the tongue thrust that causes the issues in the first place though? and not enough room on his pallet ? because after the removal of teeth, the pallet will become smaller and the culprit is still there, TONGUETHRUST. How do we fix that? thats the challenges i'm facing . i'm yet to fix my open bite but these are what i need explanation for. pls help.
Myofunctional therapy can help if the space isn't too restricted. It's weird that the patient would to extractions but didn't accept miniscrews since they're far less invasive.
I heard a lot of people who got braces to fix their open bite and the majority of them said that it worked for about a year after the bite closed and then it went back to an open bite after a year or so.
yeah... im getting my braces inna couple of days and i've never spoken to my ortho about this type of stuff previously because i never knew about it 😭... so hopefully it won't be a problem in the future. i've heard about myofunctional therapy so im gonna bring it up. but i also dunno if it matters anyways because apparently i also have to get jaw surgery to correct my open bite / fix my lip incompetence,,, sighhh
Hi Bhagya, and in fact, it does! It's just that most of the times is an unwanted side effect. Rollercoaster effect usually happens when trying to close extraction spaces on small round wires. What happens is that posterior teeth's crown tip mesial, anterior teeth loose torque, and the premolars intrude. if you want to know more, subscribe!
@@a_rie.-. drs give the worst case scenario to lean you into paying for the more pricey methods. It's very possible they're just trying to tap into your wallets. You got and update?
I have single rubber put on 4 teeth as rectangle but the rubber is cutting blood circulation on my lower gum as a result the gum is swollen red and bleeds ..looks horrible ..what should I do
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I used to have an open bite (5mm) and most orthodontists had suggested extractions since I couldn't afford surgery. So I opted for a camouflage technique instead, osseous genioplasty to fix my protruding chin, 4 premolar extractions (wisdom teeth had already been extracted), lingual braces with tads for 2 years. I now have wire attachments behind my front teeth and wear a retainer for 12 hours a day and a tongue crib to better help me position my tongue. It has been worth it.
Why did you have an open bite?
@@DavidsKanal Very bad facial structure, especially in regards to the the maxilla and the mandible
@@Faithmay96 did you also have to correct your tongue posture // do myofunctional therapy or was that not needed because it wasn't a problem/the bite never opened back up?
How long month?
I love ur way to simplify ortho really
That's why I mean ortho like a piece of cake if u make it simple
I didn't see you putting palatal elastics Doc. At the part you said you were losing to much torque on the lateral segment. I only saw lingual button but no elastics.
Where did the condyles move? Downward? Forward or Backward? If you use the elastics to close the bite, the condyles move somewhere inevitably. It can be the cause of Temporomandibular disorder in the future with high probability. Nobody shows what's happening in the temporomandibular joints. It is just like you are throwing the kitchen trash into the living room. vice versa.
Its been a yr still no progress to my front openbite
Hello, Doctor. How is it going
I didn't exactly understand the palatal elastics.. how is that? .
OK Dr. and if the case doesn't need extraction.. or I should do extraction to solve the problem?
I had an open bite a year and a half ago. I had braces on my teeth and had the premolars removed in the upper jaw. Currently, I have severe difficulty pronouncing the letters S and Z. Will this problem continue or is there a solution for it?
I painfully regret my parents decision to do to me an orthodontic camouflage. I now have speech issues and no space for my tongue, joint degeneration, and problems to get a proper treatment (surgery) because of the orthodontic camouflage.
I understand what you have been through. The camouflage is the disguised expression which does not deserve. It is 'wrong' plan that causes another serious problem by doctor. Recently I was astonished to see so many animations like this. Human body cannot be explained by animation. Nobody tells what is happening in the temporomandibular joints and the proper function of the teeth, that is 'the occlusal function'. Please find the competent orthodontist who knows 'the occlusion'.
@@brace-p9x Hi, thanks a lot for the response. I'm currently in the middle of creating an orthodontic plan to prepare me for a surgery and wear an occlusal splint daily to help me with migraines and to reposition my jaw to its original place.
But let me tell you, the camouflage caused me so many issues, that even after 10 years I still bad mouth the person who did this camouflage.
@@ania6118 Degenerated condyles tend to resorb again after surgery especially when the lower jaw surgery is done. I am somewhat relieved to know you are wearing the splint, hopefully for jaw stabilization. The other important thing is the ability of the surgeon. I hope you have a good result.
But what about the tongue thrust that causes the issues in the first place though? and not enough room on his pallet ? because after the removal of teeth, the pallet will become smaller and the culprit is still there, TONGUETHRUST. How do we fix that? thats the challenges i'm facing . i'm yet to fix my open bite but these are what i need explanation for. pls help.
Did u find solution for ur problem?
@@vijay-np8wd nope from my research the tongue will have to be retrained and the pallet can be widening in .
Myofunctional therapy can help if the space isn't too restricted. It's weird that the patient would to extractions but didn't accept miniscrews since they're far less invasive.
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I heard a lot of people who got braces to fix their open bite and the majority of them said that it worked for about a year after the bite closed and then it went back to an open bite after a year or so.
The habit of tongue make open bite back lol
yeah... im getting my braces inna couple of days and i've never spoken to my ortho about this type of stuff previously because i never knew about it 😭... so hopefully it won't be a problem in the future. i've heard about myofunctional therapy so im gonna bring it up. but i also dunno if it matters anyways because apparently i also have to get jaw surgery to correct my open bite / fix my lip incompetence,,, sighhh
After taking off the bracers you suppose to wear retainers to keep your teeth in place
An open bite is caused by tongue thrust. You need train your tongue to not push against your teeth in order to not redevelop an open bite.
The easiest explanation : "rocking chair effect" It was never fixed. Temporarily disappeared. Not ignorance of wearing the retainer.
What are the chances of relapse?
No chance
How much will this be
Hi, Doc, where is your location please?
I think roller coster effect helps to intrude the teeth
Hi Bhagya, and in fact, it does! It's just that most of the times is an unwanted side effect. Rollercoaster effect usually happens when trying to close extraction spaces on small round wires. What happens is that posterior teeth's crown tip mesial, anterior teeth loose torque, and the premolars intrude. if you want to know more, subscribe!
Thaaaaaanks@@giacomomassoni8042
If it’s this simple why do they Always say surgery is the only way.
Yea my dentist said Imma need Jae surgery and I’m scared but my open bite has gotten really small since braces maybe I won’t need it hopefully 😣
@@a_rie.-. drs give the worst case scenario to lean you into paying for the more pricey methods. It's very possible they're just trying to tap into your wallets. You got and update?
@@BlackMist123 yeah my teeth move very fast but I actually need jaw surgery because my jaws are not lined up with each other
because you always will get relapse especially on open bite cases
love the case.. if you lose the music would be much much better
Why would she refuse the mini screws??
Pain, infection, annoyance, etc
Price
Very good job doctor it helps me a lot nice I fo
Thanks
Thankyou
I have single rubber put on 4 teeth as rectangle but the rubber is cutting blood circulation on my lower gum as a result the gum is swollen red and bleeds ..looks horrible ..what should I do
How
i have this an no one likes me
I hope you're doing all right!