Finnair Boeing 757 Engine Explosion Aborted Takeoff
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2008
- Finnair's Boing 757 (reg. OH-LBR) engine exploding/bird strike due to a large eagle flying into the engine, causing to aborting the takeoff (RTO). Ahmedabad, India airport (VAAH).
This was Finnair's leisure flight from Helsinki, Finland (EFHK) to Langkawi, Malaysia (WMKL). Refueling stop in Ahmedabad, India (VAAH).
Date: February 15, 2006
Aircraft registration: OH-LBR
After the accident, we had to stay for about 16 hours in a local hotel (Hotel Haveli, to be exact) in Gandhinagar, near Ahmedabad. After that, a replacement aircraft arrived from Helsinki and our trip continued as planned.
The video was featured on MSNBC in July 2009. - Авто/Мото
well at least it happened before v1
+Clifford Zellner yeah. lol. then it wouild have to be v2 , rotate, positve climb,followed by a request for emergy landing.
+6Andrew6Kearney6 Do you not rotate at V2 if an engine fails after V1 just before vr or at vr?
You will always take off if the V1 speed has been passed, regardless, and follow the normal V reference speeds.
V2 is the speed at which you will be able to reach at least 35 ft at the end of the runway and be climbing, also with one engine not producing thrust. You will be rotating by definition before that.
Itapirkanmaa2, That is not true, you will ALMOST ALWAYS take off after V1. And in this situation, they would have if they just lost one engine. However, if something should happen that would make the aircraft structurally unsound in the air or unflyable or if there is a fire raging in the cabin that could be catastrophic, they will abort takeoff. It is not the safest thing to do, but it has been done. The big threat is running out of runway to safely come to a stop so, of course, the longer the runway, the better.
I love the way the pilot takes the time to describe the type of bird he just ran into. Very considerate
"Bird strike" would be a more suitable title than "Explosion"
Either way it exploded.
Explosion is not the correct word here. An engine surge causing the loud bang, as here, is unexpected, but controlled.
In unusual circumstances, the surge is caused by a suspected or actual fault which must be evaluated and rectified if necessary. In most cases, the engine will return to use after inspection.
the bird exploded, the title should be bird explosion
Explosion is going to get more views.
Or change the title for "bird explosion..."
That Captain's explanation is OUTSTANDING!
Sure, except for the part about trying to avoid the bird. What bullshit, there's nowhere to go to besides up when taking off. And because they did not take off, we know they were under V1 and had no choice but to hit the bird
He said the eagle tried to avoid the plane, not the other way around...
@@imvandenh what?
@@imvandenh Lol, he said the bird tried to get out of the way, not the plane :D
@@imvandenh he said the BIRD tried ot get away from the PLANE
The Captain sound sad :( R.I.P Eagle, we won't forget you. #NeverForget
Rip eagle we remember you
The Harambe of the air :(
Engine turbine blades be like: nom nom nom 🤟
I already forgot
What a great pilot. None of the bull that others (BA) would say "due to an unfortunate incident...." he told the truth and admitted it will be a "big problem" good well done.
bensflights Ironically your profile picture is BA
That's just typical finnish speaking, say as little as you have to and that's it. Then there is just silence.
He told the truth, except for the part about trying to get out of the way of the bird. They had not reached GO speed (rotation) yet and on the runway when taking off, there's nowhere to go but up so...... Did they really try? Really?
@@imvandenh What he meant was, the BIRD tried to get out of the way of the approaching aircraft, only to fly straight into the engine.
I can hear sincerity in the pilot's apology. There's nothing else he could really have done. Finnair is one of the best :)
There's a lot of stuff Finland actually gets wrong. But the air safety and the railways ... seriously good.
EXTREMELY good.
@@DavidAndrewsPEC im interested about a lot of stuff Finland gets wrong :D
@@veiktik2297 food...warm weather;)
@@devintariel3769 whats wrong with the food??? Come here, i will make you some makaroonilaatikko!
The Captains professionalism is Fantastic!!!
Ugggh don't like your reply
why because its true
Typical reaction: "The engine just exploded. I' am terribly sorry for the noise and not respecting the personal space of the eagle. It won't happen again."
That's incredible! Would you be okay with me featuring this in an episode of Weekly Dose of Aviation? Of course you will be credited both in the video and in the description.
Do ittt :D
Sure!
over 14 years later ! xD
I wanna see that episode!!
Literally nothing special about this video.
Someone must have left their cell phone on
LOL!!!!
+Chris H. he called him a joker, he was aware of the sarcasm...
+Chris H. also "ur" is the correct short hand for you are. But the A in your And shouldn't have been capitalised, a new sentence would have been sensible here too.......
+Matt Lemmon HA XD
This. It's all precautionary bullshit. There is zero evidence to prove cell phones have any effect.
He was very sorry for the eagle, that's what he meant.
Don't worry Mr Pilot, it's a regular occurrence around here. An eagle went through my bicycle spokes just last week
Lol
did you also abort take off?
Nope, just kept going. Live or die man!
so you were faster than V1?
TheLondonForever00 bye bye bye for now but
Also, one thing you all need to remember, these air crews train endlessly on all types of scenarios. They also use checklists during every flight. The 757 (along with all modern airliners) have an autobrake system, as well as an autospoiler system. Before takeoff the autobrake's are armed for RTO (rejected takeoff) , and the spoilers are armed to deploy automatically as well.
Still the crew reacted quickly, but understand all they had to do was see the eagle, then hear the loud bang, then pull the throttle back. No major procedure, its supposed to be as simple as that specifically for this reason.
i think the pilot does very well to communicate the situation so quickly after what for him too is a very dramatic event and he handled it very well. Of course his voice is a bit less steady than normal - do those people who are giving out about him think he should be singing?
Exactly. The pilot is extremely embarrassed, that "I'm very sorry about this" sounded very genuine.
'Very dramatic event' kinda killed your entire comment lmao
The way the pilot said "I'm very sorry about this" sounded so personal and sincerely while he is trying to catch a breath.
The Pilot was very courteous and his apology was from the bottom of his heart!!!!! Really nice!!!
The eagle hasn't landed. In one piece anyway.
The eagle HAS landed. Here, there, over there, over there and there.....
FinnAir is a great airline, I was flying with my husband to Helsinki from San Francisco in 1999, the screen showing the path of flight was right in the front of us, after an hour of flight we see the plane making a turn around and going back to San Francisco. Then the pilot calmly announced he is dropping the fuel into the ocean and to keep our seat belts on. We felt uneasy but didn't panic. When we reached SFO runway we saw multiple fire trucks waiting but landing was perfect, maybe just a little rough. Pilot got a huge ovation. There was an announcement to stay on the plane while repairs are being done. It took about 3 ours and we went back to Helsinki. To this day I don't know what the problem was but so grateful for having a great pilot. If I had to go back to Europe, I would only use FinnAir.
I had a very similar experience, the second time I ever flew. We were on our way from New York back to London and about an hour in the screen with the flight path suddenly arched back to Canada. We ended up landing in Newfoundland, with emergency vehicles down the runway and all that fun. American Airlines put us up in a hotel for the night and a new plane flew out to take us the rest of the way in the morning. I never found out what the problem was.
Pilots did a great job of reacting fast, pulling up quickly and safely and keeping the passengers calm and informed. Top marks Finnair! Bonus points for a cool accent haha
wow, that's a fast reaction, the pilot doesn't need half a second to decide to abort and start the brakes! very professional!
Not often you get an eagle in the engine. But then again, it's Finnair. Up there in the north, I guess they must have a whole archive in the cellar in their building full with dragonstrike reports, all highly classified of course.
I just like this comment. Don't know why, but I do.
Or rockets shot at them by the former USSR. 23 December 1987, DC-10, Kola Peninsula on approach to Helsinki.
Dragons in Finland? Probably. But if you read the description you will see this happened at Ahmedabad airport in India.
@@Matthew-ut6ed Could've been a Chinese dragon that got lost!
That eagle didn't have T-CAS on!
xd
It had Mcas on ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Viele!
I feel bad for the cabin crew guy!
I watch your videos
Dan...OMG a comment from 11 years ago and you still have the same account. I wonder how old you were back then and if you still remember this comment.
@Malakai Kaden don't trust these people it's not real guys
hey dan
very sharp pilot, must have been quite alert if he even saw the bird before it went through the engine
This is why Finnair introduced "Angry Birds" for the a340.
For those of you who are wondering, the eagle was well done.
2 month ago we had the same problem in Ahmedabad. An eagle flied into the turbine while landing, and we stayed there 24h waiting for a new Finnair plane from helsinki. Ahmedabad must be famous for these kind of problems.
Fantastic reactions by the captain/FO - look how long there is between the bird strike and the descision to reject!
Excellent, quick response by the flight crew!
Yes very quick reaction. You hear the bang and it takes less than a second when you see the effect of the brakes !!
Tais mennä pelikaani turbiiniin? :D
Fantastic pilot !
that pilots reaction time tho....
CO PILOT: SHIT WE LOST EN-
PILOT: SAY NO MORE
Just look at the time between the bang an the rto. This reaction time is insanely good!
Instant reaction by pilots.
I love how everyone goes super silent when the pilot talks :) They wall want to know what happened.
Nice that he said sorry, but hardly his fault in any way shape or form. +100 for the pilot.
"Meni pelikaani turbiinista läpi" :)
Oh, real nice camera work during the emergency. Nothing like watching the back of the seat in front of you to captivate your audience!
Sucks how so many people fuck up the camera shots just as something interesting happens on these types of videos.
Ya. Nice vid of the back of the seat douch bag !
How could he know what was coming?
the eagle became KFC
wow that was a great video!! thanks
Glad it happened during take off and before v1. Glad to know all are OK
great video, very professional pilot!
thanks for the comment. I know rotate occurs at vr though. I appreciate the points you made
Rest in pieces. Thoughts and prayers
the pilot speaks good english. I would not have been able to rivalise what he said, despite having stayed in the UK for over 10 years
poor eagle
haha
Not poor, dead. Non-existent
VAAH has a record of having the highest amount of bird hits in India!! specially when departing north from runway 5...great capture.
Jumalauta nyt vasta näin tämän! Aika harvinaisen tapauksen oot saanu videolle!
"toi oli paha"
XDDD
Finnairilla ei ikinä sais tapahtua tolleen jos haluaa pysyä suosittuna lentoyhtiönä.
@@jussironkainen idari
@@jussironkainen mitenkäs estät sen että kotka ei lennä moottoriin?
Very nice eyewitness video. Cool passengers, cool pilot, best sound !
That's still not an explosion, but rather a compressor surge, stall or pumping (same thing, different name). Usually no harm comes to the engine, but there is a slight risk of damage, so you would normally abort the takeoff or return to the airport. In some cases (as you might find a video of here on youtube) the damage is so severe, that the surging continues and you have to shut the engine down, which then instantly turns it from a safety landing into an emergency landing.
Did you watch the whole thing? It was a bird strike
Yes? And then the compressor surged due to the engine ingesting some rather hard to combust material. Your statement doesn't make mine any less true..
Regardless of what it was the pilot did the right thing so shit the hell up mr fake pilot
I've never claimed to be a pilot now, have I? I'm actually an aircraft mechanic, although I don't work with that anymore.
+Tjita1 you're more professional than the commenters/trolls around here. Kudos to you,sir.
not as sorry as the eagle was about it....
Hyvä laatu ollakseen niin vanha video!
finnish pilot good pilot
The EEC also uses 'sensed' data and bleed air to make the adjustment, how?
Thanks for picking my brain, are you NG type rated with experience on the classics?
I had an incident like that in a United Airlines 727 in 1995. Lucky the pilot was able to stop in time.
Handled it like a pro!
Great picture of a seat back.
wow was lucky that they did't take off. nice video man
awesome ! great vid!
I was also referring to the 737, the 757 of which I'm unfamiliar.
The procedures/practices between the two won't be too disfimiliar, and PMC and FADEC are mainly engine manufacturers displaying their differences.
PMC is isolated to the 737 classics, since the NG's have EEC (Electronic Engine control).
The role of the PMC is to refine the fuel flow actuated by the mechanical MEC (Main Engine Control) and applied by the forward thrust lever/settings. And has some authority over it.
@MegaPlanelover
Langkawi has been one of their charter destinations, never been in a scheduled service.
ok, what asain countrys does taht involva? cus i flew helsinki-bkk nonstop
Kuinka kauan jouduitte odottamaan gatellä?
This is a plane departure spoof while taking off from Vantaa Airport. First time is it adventurous
That wasn't an eagle on the runway - it was an immigrant on his way to the UK. Thanks to the pilot an emergency was averted.
LMFAO
***** yeah it was what are you like 5yrs old.
Do you get a joke like pls
DanielAtHome1 yeah when its funny so don't imply that I'm that dumb don't even go there. It was not funny to me but to you it was i am entitled to have my own opinion without you suggesting that I don't understand the concept of a fucking joke.
glad everyone was ok
Oh, ok! :) Thank you!
And how is that reduced takeoff thrust management applied?
By using a de-rated thrust setting? Or by using the assumed temperature method? With PMC's active.
As for the decision speed, this decision can be overuled if the situation prevents an achievable takeoff. A single engine climb can be achieved after v1, erroneous engine readings indicating a drop in thrust may overule that decision. A T/O configuration warning horn also, but this would sound much earlier on dep on roll.
So what ended up happening? How long was the delay? Did they get a new plane?
how lucky u filmed it :)
ladies and gentleman, looks like a cessna 172 was grazing on the runway... tried to get out of the way but got sucked into our engine, very sorry about that
Nice video. Liked when the pilot said: "I'm very sorry about this". :D
Wow, you got shredded tweet.
very good pilot and reaction
which engine was it? you should've had the camera pointed at the engines.
this is textbook do you know how far the plane was from v1, this pilot had done his training in the simulator
Great video I would have been scared stiff
Hello there, is it okay to feature this video in our new Episode ? it will be credited ofcourse :)
We call these facilities "hawks" mostly ;)
Good thing the videographer was filming the other seat more than the birdstrike!
good pilot!... Finnair is arguably one the best airlines... no doutbt!
THE best airline. Last fatal incident on 03 December 1963.
I just love the Finnish accent, I'm half Finnish but don't have one :(
0Tanaka0 I'm Finnish but I don't have a proper accent probably :/
good thing it happened so close to the ground! thanks for the upload!
They must have been moments from passing V1. A few seconds later, and it would have been quite a long ride dumping or burning fuel. Very quick reaction time, cool pilot, the passengers were in very good hands.
It's ok captain!! we're good!!!!
In your original post you referenced PMC's. PMC's and EEC's are mutually exclusive. PMC has limited authority (as you correctly stated)to modify N1 by controlling N2 via a torque motor on the MEC. FADEC engines have an EEC (electronic engine control) which has FULL authority (from start to TO power). Maybe we are talking the same thing but differently.
were is Ahmedabad? :)
I feel more sorry for the eagle Then their inconvenience
Awesome !
Plane seems to be pretty heavy and slow to pick up speed. Just my impression. Always glad for good and safe piloting.
In th 757 with all of the 7*7 series, T/O thrust is selected using an assumed temperature and/or derated 1 or 2 takeoff. And to override the V1 rule the only way you can is not whether the airplane will stop it's only if the airplane will NOT fly.
Pilot was freaking out...you could tell his angst...wow!
I didn't see anything? Only a seat?
Happy Birthday!!
Im amazed at the lack of screaming to be honest
yes I would like mine well done.
RIP Mr. Eagle
Hyvälaatuinen videokin! Tuskin teille olisi kummoisesti käynytykään, vaikka olisi ilmassa lentänyt turbiiniin tuo kotka, yleensä tällaisiin tilainteisiin on varotoimet ja menetelmät joka koneelle hyvin perusteellisesti. Mutta, hyvä että selvisitte näin pienellä :)