Kargan Intimidator can make your own creatures into Cowards, removing their other creature types, which makes them non-humans for Winota. This interaction came up a lot but was never mentioned or taken advantage of; it makes Winota even stronger since it means you can trigger her off of herself if you just untap with her and play an Intimidator.
Yep, I was just thinking about adding to the swathe of comments about another magic player not reading magic cards LOL. This interaction is so weird though. The usual phrasing wouldn't allow for such interaction... However, we are 2020 magic-ing, so I guess free creatures aren't really that power creepy nowadays.
You're right! I just blindly assumed it was "becomes a Coward in addition to existing types" but nope, it overwrites those types entirely. That could be useful against a variety of tribal decks!
I love how MTGGoldfish cuts all of the waiting out of his videos! It makes them sooo much more interesting/entertaining to watch. Thanks for the editing work, much appreciated!
Regarding "artifact destruction is bad in non-Clover matchups", I've had decent success with Shredded Sails as a sideboard card against both Clover and that stupid Rogue lord.
This is a super interesant example of how the land modo cards work. I was scared at first that was companion second coming. But they are prety balanced in practice. This deck want low count of lands because is agro a low mana cost, but hates the lands coming in to play taped so doesnt want to.have so many of this lands. I like this.
The lands are so bad. Only the spikefield is playable because it costs one mana. I would much rather flood sometimes than have bad mana literally every game.
I actually played Warriors in an event this weekend and did surprisingly well. I have Winota in my sideboard but I’m playing Nahirir in the main deck. I’m also using Goma Fada Vanguard, which works perfectly and has won me a few games. Maul of the Skyclaves is just amazing, especially if you use Resolute Strike (if your equipped creature dies) to attach it to another creature for one mana.
I made a boros warriors deck. I run a bit more on the equipment theme, also run the 1 mana spell righteous something or other than gives +2+2 and lets you free equip something. That is a bonkers combat trick for pushing lethal damage through on a last swing, or shifting around equipment to deal with a pesky threat. I'm not a huge fan of embercleave in my testing, though. It's... hard to cast for less than 4 mana. Did not realize Legion Angel was a warrior, though. Might have to toss that in. I think the single biggest problem with Warriors is the lack one one drops. It has one. Which is an AMAZING card because you run such a fast clock that when you'd usually put people down low enough and then they'd stabilize and win against aggro, it basically check makes them by telling them if they block him and he dies with equipment, they lose. If they don't block him, they also lose. But it's your only opening creature. Not sure why you aren't running the 1R unblockable warrior. I wouldn't even waste a deck spot on Hakdos. I'm pretty sure MTGA's algorithm actually always makes him hit whatever number your opponent has out on the field. It happened to me four times in a row. The Warrior specific piece of equipment is spectacular. +1 to toughness is absurdly helpful. I also run more than 60 cards because it gives a nice, comfy cushion against mill. If it takes them two extra turns to mill me out, I've probably won.
12:55 why did you concede here? You can block one of the 4/4s if they go face leaving you at 4 and then you draw a 4/3 flying that gets you another 4/3 flying for next turn you tick up nehiri and equip with your equipment double blocking the sharks killing one repeat next turn and stabilize?
In the second game of the first match, I think Seth kind of forgot that he could use Nahiri to equip things with her +1 ability, which could have been useful. For example, he could have resolved the embercleave, and then used the +1 to make a Kor and equip it.
Could you plz plz plz at the end of these "Budget" vids tell us what would some of the non-budget cards be that you would add if you didnt have think about being a budget deck.... ty. :)
I always have a non-budget list in the article on the website, but maybe I should start adding it to the video as well. www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-boros-warriors-standard
Hi Seth and RUclips, I really want to play this deck but I am missing all 4 maul of the skyclave, and can't spend wildcards. Do you have any suggestions? I have 4 shadowspear and 4 Embercleave. I don't know, do think 3 and 3 is ok (maybe not since they're legendary)
For match 5 game 2 I think I would have left up Mana for soul sear and hit Omnath while the card draw trigger is on the stack. The opponent hand all four colors needed to cast it. Pretty good bet they had Omnath in hand.
I remember when Omnath was first spoiled and Seth and the others said in the podcast that it was not good outside of EDH, haha. It seems like they always underestimate the strongest card of each set (same happened with Oko, Uro and so).
Bro, I dont think anyone underestimated OKO....HAHAHAHAHHA. My LGS was split into the camp buying it up on Day 1 (because it was so good) to selling it all (because it was so good they felt it would get banned....lol)
now a days the off meta decks feel synergistic and powerful, and sometimes this makes me feel like standard is in a more healthy place than it really is, because I get the sense that the off meta decks being better than they used to be in the past is less of a result of the meta being deeper, but that the actual competitive meta is so small decks that would usually be the 5-10th best decks in the meta don't see any play. They printed 6-7 cards in one se t that basically said " please play boros equipment" and thats still not enough without an absolute pushed bomb. you can look at izzet tempo and see this phenomenon too.
I feel like the segments when mousing over the timecodes should be split into just Intro/Matches/Wrap up. Showing the match lengths seems pretty spoilery. Does anyone ever skip to match 2 for any reason?
Why not play the Adventure that kills artifacts? I dont think it's a warrior but it being a creature that can be equipped to makes it relevant even of there are no artifacts to kill
When Siege Rhino enters the battlefield, each opponent loses 3 life and you gain 3 life. When Omnath, Locus of Creation enters the battlefield, each opponent loses 4 life and you gain 4 life, add {R}{G}{W}{U} to your mana pool, AND draw a card.
So, historically speaking in these situations, Standard becomes two decks the “Big Bad Guy” and the killer of that deck. However, there really aren’t answers to Omnath. So now, we only have one deck in Standard. Between this and The Walking Dead opening the Pandora’s Box of selling powerful singles directly from the manufacturer bypassing packs, which hurts casual players TREMENDOUSLY, I am very concerned about the “health” of paper MtG.
u mean "casual" LEGACY & VINTAGE players? Casual EDH is not really affected, unless you are a player hankering after Angus Mckenzie too.... I am being fecetious but to focus that the fear is that they will do this for standard. The actual implementation right now is not ideal but does not actually hurt the "casual" crowd (or spikey crowd for that matter). The implication is that it is a portent to something more sinister. : )
Kargan Intimidator can make your own creatures into Cowards, removing their other creature types, which makes them non-humans for Winota. This interaction came up a lot but was never mentioned or taken advantage of; it makes Winota even stronger since it means you can trigger her off of herself if you just untap with her and play an Intimidator.
Yep, I was just thinking about adding to the swathe of comments about another magic player not reading magic cards LOL. This interaction is so weird though. The usual phrasing wouldn't allow for such interaction... However, we are 2020 magic-ing, so I guess free creatures aren't really that power creepy nowadays.
It was funny to watch kargan intimidator fizzle the black lance paragon trigger at 13:32, which is the same interaction
Ohh, that's a sweet trick that I completely missed!
You're right! I just blindly assumed it was "becomes a Coward in addition to existing types" but nope, it overwrites those types entirely. That could be useful against a variety of tribal decks!
@@Nuthouse01 "so scared that they stopped being an elf"
I love how MTGGoldfish cuts all of the waiting out of his videos! It makes them sooo much more interesting/entertaining to watch. Thanks for the editing work, much appreciated!
more warriors than commander clash last friday!
Tomer could learn a thing or two from this deck ;)
Match 1 game 2 it seems like a pretty big punt to not hammer into nahir (which equips the token) and then slam embercleave on it too.
Regarding "artifact destruction is bad in non-Clover matchups", I've had decent success with Shredded Sails as a sideboard card against both Clover and that stupid Rogue lord.
Yeah, that seems like a good addition for sure.
This is a super interesant example of how the land modo cards work. I was scared at first that was companion second coming. But they are prety balanced in practice. This deck want low count of lands because is agro a low mana cost, but hates the lands coming in to play taped so doesnt want to.have so many of this lands. I like this.
The lands are so bad. Only the spikefield is playable because it costs one mana. I would much rather flood sometimes than have bad mana literally every game.
Love the shirt :D Great band, haven't thought about them in forever
I actually played Warriors in an event this weekend and did surprisingly well. I have Winota in my sideboard but I’m playing Nahirir in the main deck. I’m also using Goma Fada Vanguard, which works perfectly and has won me a few games. Maul of the Skyclaves is just amazing, especially if you use Resolute Strike (if your equipped creature dies) to attach it to another creature for one mana.
I made a boros warriors deck. I run a bit more on the equipment theme, also run the 1 mana spell righteous something or other than gives +2+2 and lets you free equip something. That is a bonkers combat trick for pushing lethal damage through on a last swing, or shifting around equipment to deal with a pesky threat. I'm not a huge fan of embercleave in my testing, though. It's... hard to cast for less than 4 mana. Did not realize Legion Angel was a warrior, though. Might have to toss that in.
I think the single biggest problem with Warriors is the lack one one drops. It has one. Which is an AMAZING card because you run such a fast clock that when you'd usually put people down low enough and then they'd stabilize and win against aggro, it basically check makes them by telling them if they block him and he dies with equipment, they lose. If they don't block him, they also lose. But it's your only opening creature. Not sure why you aren't running the 1R unblockable warrior. I wouldn't even waste a deck spot on Hakdos. I'm pretty sure MTGA's algorithm actually always makes him hit whatever number your opponent has out on the field. It happened to me four times in a row. The Warrior specific piece of equipment is spectacular. +1 to toughness is absurdly helpful.
I also run more than 60 cards because it gives a nice, comfy cushion against mill. If it takes them two extra turns to mill me out, I've probably won.
12:55 why did you concede here? You can block one of the 4/4s if they go face leaving you at 4 and then you draw a 4/3 flying that gets you another 4/3 flying for next turn you tick up nehiri and equip with your equipment double blocking the sharks killing one repeat next turn and stabilize?
I wouldn't really call this budget on Arena with how many rares/mythics there are
In the second game of the first match, I think Seth kind of forgot that he could use Nahiri to equip things with her +1 ability, which could have been useful. For example, he could have resolved the embercleave, and then used the +1 to make a Kor and equip it.
Could you plz plz plz at the end of these "Budget" vids tell us what would some of the non-budget cards be that you would add if you didnt have think about being a budget deck.... ty. :)
You can find the NON budget list on the article related to this deck on MTGoldfish and even in the link in the description of this video :)
@@federicopanzonato4528 ty.
I always have a non-budget list in the article on the website, but maybe I should start adding it to the video as well. www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-boros-warriors-standard
@@MTGGoldfish Could that be a monthly video? Re-visit a popular budget deck with the expensive version, compare the experience and win-rate.
@@MTGGoldfish I think so as I had no idea and been following for a couple years lol. But thanks!!
Really liked the drawl on saffronolive this video. Really great stuff
If the Omnath getting the 4 mana was on the 3rd trigger instead of the 2nd then it would be so much less busted than what it is.
Dear Tomer,
Please review video. This is how a proper warrior deck is done.
Sincerely, Your Viewers
I came here to complain about Seth copping Tomer's warriors deck. XD
Is this deck running too many tap lands? It seems you end up top decking them too often, and basics might be better
Hi Seth and RUclips,
I really want to play this deck but I am missing all 4 maul of the skyclave, and can't spend wildcards. Do you have any suggestions? I have 4 shadowspear and 4 Embercleave. I don't know, do think 3 and 3 is ok (maybe not since they're legendary)
2 and 2 is def okay. 3 is pushing it but if you're having fun do it. Javier had 2 embercleave in his tournament winning gruel deck for example.
Absolutely loving that t-shirt Seth!
Thanks!
That thumbnail with the Golden State Warriors jersey!
For match 5 game 2 I think I would have left up Mana for soul sear and hit Omnath while the card draw trigger is on the stack. The opponent hand all four colors needed to cast it. Pretty good bet they had Omnath in hand.
I AGREE ABOUT MAUL OF THE SKYCLAVES! Very underrated
No Kaldra?
I would like to commend the thumbail artist again, gave me some kind of one piece vibe, well done
I feel like I’ve seen decks like this before. Kinda like a pawblade or winota deck but with warriors to save money.
I wasn't expecting warriors in this warriors deck.
I remember when Omnath was first spoiled and Seth and the others said in the podcast that it was not good outside of EDH, haha. It seems like they always underestimate the strongest card of each set (same happened with Oko, Uro and so).
Bro, I dont think anyone underestimated OKO....HAHAHAHAHHA. My LGS was split into the camp buying it up on Day 1 (because it was so good) to selling it all (because it was so good they felt it would get banned....lol)
@@drwtng I heard the podcast, if I'm not wrong, Richard said Oko was not going to be competitive.
Why is Zagras on the deck box 😆
now a days the off meta decks feel synergistic and powerful, and sometimes this makes me feel like standard is in a more healthy place than it really is, because I get the sense that the off meta decks being better than they used to be in the past is less of a result of the meta being deeper, but that the actual competitive meta is so small decks that would usually be the 5-10th best decks in the meta don't see any play. They printed 6-7 cards in one se t that basically said " please play boros equipment" and thats still not enough without an absolute pushed bomb. you can look at izzet tempo and see this phenomenon too.
I could just imagine if Oko and Golos and Field of the Dead (which have rotated anyway) were legal with Omnath.
mace and hallow blade is really good goes over a lot of stuff
I love New Deck (5) with Zagras cover art
Love the Cake shirt ;)
He's going the DISTANCE!
Seth, this is not warrior tribal, as seen in a recent commander clash by tomer....
Good stuff
4:12 And give them protection. Wait, oops... Indestructible.
Seth went from “MAUL!! WHO PLAYS THAT” to “Maybe maul is decent” to then playing maul and calling it a good equipment.
Well, was expecting this at noon, but happy it's here now. What time for podcast release?
After Seth's Twitch stream today, he uploads it after the stream. Usually around 2pm PT.
I feel like the segments when mousing over the timecodes should be split into just Intro/Matches/Wrap up. Showing the match lengths seems pretty spoilery. Does anyone ever skip to match 2 for any reason?
I often do if I think a match up is boring.
@@LMDS95 that's a good point
Surprised this is a standard deck when t3 hammer time kills in historic exist.
We have 3 2 mana double strikers as well.
Imagine being Spakkiomatik and having Seth (Probably better known as Saffron Olive) say that your brew made you lose cuz it was bad
Wait... this is Warrior tribal? Tomer lied to me!
Why not play the Adventure that kills artifacts? I dont think it's a warrior but it being a creature that can be equipped to makes it relevant even of there are no artifacts to kill
Warriorrrrssss!!!!
When Siege Rhino enters the battlefield, each opponent loses 3 life and you gain 3 life.
When Omnath, Locus of Creation enters the battlefield, each opponent loses 4 life and you gain 4 life, add {R}{G}{W}{U} to your mana pool, AND draw a card.
So, historically speaking in these situations, Standard becomes two decks the “Big Bad Guy” and the killer of that deck. However, there really aren’t answers to Omnath. So now, we only have one deck in Standard. Between this and The Walking Dead opening the Pandora’s Box of selling powerful singles directly from the manufacturer bypassing packs, which hurts casual players TREMENDOUSLY, I am very concerned about the “health” of paper MtG.
u mean "casual" LEGACY & VINTAGE players? Casual EDH is not really affected, unless you are a player hankering after Angus Mckenzie too.... I am being fecetious but to focus that the fear is that they will do this for standard. The actual implementation right now is not ideal but does not actually hurt the "casual" crowd (or spikey crowd for that matter). The implication is that it is a portent to something more sinister. : )
@@drwtng Casual kitchen table magic is often: anything goes. I used to have a sweet 'Yet Another Aether Vortex' deck.
I didn't know kaldra was in standard
Woot Woot, first 5!
Nobody figured than Kargan Warleader face is like long haired Bill Murray???
It has crabs 🤣😂
Back with newly broken standard. Oi.
Maybe it's just me, but while I've seen omnath decks in droves, l mostly see them losing matches
I agree. I've beaten Omnath each time I've played against so far. Twice in historic with Mono Green Stompy and once in standard with Izzet Prowess.
Yo
Seth proving embercleave is too good. The artifacts from throne of eldraine should have never been printed.
Third? Well
How the fuck is this "Budged"? Because you could not find anything more expensive? ^_^
7 mythics and 24 rares.how the fk is this a budget deck by any means?
Ban Omnath and the next op card will take its place. Banning is ineffective.
why does this guy always talk lilke mikey mouse?
I wish they'd make a creature card with the type coward
man arena should count double faced lands as lands