Shades of gray : America's wolf dilemma

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  • Опубликовано: 13 окт 2024
  • The future of the gray wolf is uncertain. The polarized debate over killing wolves and the search for a middle ground is the subject of this new film by the Ecologist Film Unit, made in association with Link TV.
    In the film, we travel to Montana and Wyoming to gauge the views of ranchers, hunters, scientists, taxidermists, conservationists and a former Governor of Montana. We explore the complex middle ground of hard truths and innovative solutions in the polarised battle over the place of wolves in the American West.
    The full 26 minute investigation is now available online at www.linktv.org/earthfocus
    Read reporter Jim Wicken's associated story at www.theecologist.org

Комментарии • 228

  • @515ventures3
    @515ventures3 4 года назад +3

    How old is the this planet? We are obviously not looking at history. For 10’s of thousands of years and even longer, I’m sure all these animals survived. And there was no modern day conservation agencies 20,000 years ago. Modern day humans get so stressed out over nature that is much more older than they are. It’s as if they are discovering a new problem that has never existed before. I think humans are the problem!

  • @rebeccamullin1376
    @rebeccamullin1376 11 лет назад +6

    I'm grateful to the makers of the film and those involved in protecting wolves and other carnivores, as well as other species that make up the ecosystems wolves occupy. The wolf and all carnivores should be protected by a universal law as they are apex predators vital to a part of the ecosystem. Also, hunting should be considered outdated in my opinion, unless the limits are strictly enforced on ungulates and carnivores are able to get what they need over humans. All animals deserve protection.

    • @slatvatfatcat
      @slatvatfatcat 4 года назад

      @Dirk Hunter, yes, your ilk are morons.

    • @hyenaboy7504
      @hyenaboy7504 Год назад

      @@slatvatfatcat How does wanting a species protected make someone a moron? Are the people who support the protection of rhinos and lions in Africa also stupid?

  • @mulkiogul5244
    @mulkiogul5244 5 лет назад +4

    solution, Anatolian Shepherd dogs. They have been protecting sheep and cows from wolves for centuries. They do it instinctively without any training. Anatolian shepherd dogs are durable, fearless, good guardian and full of love for children. Dogs, newborn lambs and calves do not leave alone.

  • @wolfcat87
    @wolfcat87 11 лет назад +19

    I live in Montana, I hate how I couldn't even find a candidate that was for the wolves last election. The wolves should still be on an endangered list, but hunters and ranchers get priority over everyone else in this state. Ranchers should learn to co-exist. Most don't bother and just want a lazy and easy way out.

    • @ryanhoward3383
      @ryanhoward3383 6 лет назад +2

      Thats the politicians for you.

    • @makoshark9890
      @makoshark9890 6 лет назад

      That’s easier said than done.

    • @Pomiferous
      @Pomiferous 5 лет назад

      @@makoshark9890 Stage one logic does not often consider possible complications to the proposal.

    • @garycoleman6699
      @garycoleman6699 4 года назад +2

      Wolves will completely wipe out an ecosystem if there are too many we need to control the population Wisconsin has one of the biggest wolf populations and its destroying the deer herds up there

    • @DoubleDogDare54
      @DoubleDogDare54 2 года назад +2

      @@garycoleman6699 That situation has come about as the result of city dwellers who like the idea of once a year going on vacation up around Hayward or Eagle River and seeing a real, live wolf walking across a field somewhere so they can go back to Madison and tell their tree hugger buddies at the office how cool it was to see a real, live wolf. Then they pressure the state legislature to protect the wolves. Of course, they don't have to face the consequences of having 3 times the number of wolves living round them that the DNR said they would cap the population at. I've been reading people in northern Wisconsin and the UP have been quietly taking matters into their own hands when it comes to wolves and coyotes and dead varmints are the result. Good for them. If the State won't lower the wolf numbers, the citizens have to by whatever means works.
      Of course, if you live-trapped the extra wolves and freed them in the suburbs of Madison to eat the Shih Tzus and pet cats of these tree huggers, and frighten their children in their own backyards, their opinions would change instantly. And that might happen in the future as the wolves are following the road kills from the highways and interstates and pushing south. Hopefully a good number end up in Madison and other tree hugger areas and scare the bejeezus out of their big fans. Nothing like watching a wolf carrying your Chihuahua off for lunch to make you realize what wolves are really all about.

  • @rs-bi8yf
    @rs-bi8yf 5 лет назад +7

    Two sides to the story ! There must be balance ! The truth not feelings !

    • @Pomiferous
      @Pomiferous 5 лет назад

      Trigger points leave little room for logic.

    • @undary0u
      @undary0u 9 месяцев назад

      There is one side of the story and the other is a bunch of Neanderthals that feel the need to hunt animals ....

  • @deweyb3458
    @deweyb3458 5 лет назад +3

    The bottom line is that we need to keep the wolf in the ecosystem so while we can't say don't shoot a certain wolf, lets say "You can't shoot a "Collared Wolf". That should be an acceptable answer to everyone dilemma. What is so difficult about that...?

    • @DoubleDogDare54
      @DoubleDogDare54 5 лет назад

      It might be the "collared wolf" that is causing the most damage in any particular area. What then, Grasshopper?

    • @peterbenoni1470
      @peterbenoni1470 2 года назад

      @@DoubleDogDare54 If it is an agressive member of the population (killing cattle, attacking humans and pets) they the creature is neutralized. If it is a wolf out there doing what wolves do, hunting elk and raising pups as a collared wolf, there's no need to shoot it.

    • @DoubleDogDare54
      @DoubleDogDare54 2 года назад

      @@peterbenoni1470 Wolves don't travel singly as a rule and its unlikely to be a single wolf in a large territory to blame. So that would mean a collared wolf would be part of a pack causing the problem and that would mean resorting to the "smoke a pack a day" solution, which is fine with me. If the authorities won't do it and wolves are an issue for me and mine, there are ways of dealing with the varmints. Citizens in northern Wisconsin and the UP of Michigan have HAD IT with wolves and are resorting to such measures to get rid of both wolves and coyotes, neither of which populated areas need to "control the ecosystem" - that idea is pure baloney.

    • @peterbenoni1470
      @peterbenoni1470 2 года назад

      @@DoubleDogDare54 Ah yes, coyotes. Coyotes you see are one reason wolves are a benefit in some areas, with hunting seasons and controlled populations. You see, coyotes are a damn big issue, and extermination campaigns have been widely unsuccess (though widely employed) because there are so many of them, they're very smart, and they breed like rabbits. Part of this issue, especially in more southern urban areas, is the absence of a competitor species for them. Wolves and coyotes have a DEEP hatred for eachother and will actively hunt eachother's children when not busy caring for their own, lessening populations. While wolves may not be great to have there, they're often easier to manage than coyote populations via hunting while they manage the coyotes though ahem... violent methods.
      And you’re right! Wolves are pack animals! But usually when you find an issue arising with a pack, there is a common denominator among instances, an instigating wolf so to speak. Wolf packs rarely travel as a whole unit- there's too much to do between caring for children, hunting, and patrolling territory for that. Instead they will pair up (2 or more) with others when they go off to complete a task (say, trying to get into a chicken coup). Get rid of the wolf rallying others to this, get rid of the problem. Removing these problematic members is an important part of coexistence-based species management.
      And I agree that they're an issue in Northern states like the ones you mentioned! In these places, active hunting during non-breeding seasons (not in march-may roughly) is an effective way to cull them- especially the ones too comfortable with humans and human buildings, who tend to cause issues.

    • @DoubleDogDare54
      @DoubleDogDare54 2 года назад

      @@peterbenoni1470 I grew up in northern Wisconsin, mid-20th century, and I never heard or saw a coyote, or saw any signs of coyotes, when I lived up there. The reason was simple - it was an agricultural area with small family farms that typically had a lot of livestock as part of the deal. When Dad was out plowing the lower 40 he always carried a rifle with him. While he was on the tractor, anything he saw moving that he didn't like the looks of got shot. That went on from the time the area was first settled until a generation or two ago when the family farms disappeared, sucked up by the large corporations. The upshot was the coyotes moved in, and then the state decided wolves were a cool addition as well.
      As far as I can tell, Wisconsin has no bounty on coyotes, but all sorts of rules on what you can, and cannot do, if you want to hunt coyotes. That's stupid. Put a bounty on the varmints and lift all restrictions on hunting them and the populations will start to decrease significantly. If a guy can bag enough coyotes, bring in the ears, pick up a couple hundred bucks a week and sell good pelts for cash, many will do so for fun and pocket money.
      That makes more sense than adding wolves to the mix and then declaring, there - the coyote population should go down now because of the wolves, when wolves are a bigger problem than coyotes.
      And as far as I am concerned, hunting wolves during the breeding season is the best time to do it as they are more aggressive when they are denning, easier to locate and shoot and you will kill off the cubs in the den if you eliminate the adults.
      Killing the cubs is a bonus. It means fewer wolves in the future.

  • @tuborgcarlsberg1184
    @tuborgcarlsberg1184 6 лет назад +11

    In Idaho they went to court to com up with a solution,after much talk on both side, the Judge
    said why not cut the balls of all male wolf,s ,and the dude in back of the curt room said Judge you just don,t , get it the wolf don,t screw the sheep,s they kill em,,

  • @rosskardon7195
    @rosskardon7195 5 лет назад +3

    Wolves belong in the Yellowstone ecosystem and it was right to bring them back. At the same time, outside of Yellowstone National Park, regulated hunting of wolves is necessary to keep them under control and maintain the ecological balance.

    • @Antonya944
      @Antonya944 4 года назад

      @Justsome BCguy dude your comment doesn't make any sense stop reading fake information

    • @DoubleDogDare54
      @DoubleDogDare54 2 года назад +1

      So, wolves create balance when they hunt in the confines of Yellowstone but create imbalance when they hunt outside the the confines of Yellowstone?
      Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?

  • @rsteveryan
    @rsteveryan 5 лет назад +3

    As long as they have a fear of man it's all good. How come they don't talk about all the helicopter kills by FWP?

  • @richardyoung6244
    @richardyoung6244 2 года назад +1

    I think bringing wolfs back was a great idea, but the world isn't big enough anymore for large numbers of predators. Honestly they should be managed cause they could end up becoming their own worst enemy.

    • @hyenaboy7504
      @hyenaboy7504 Год назад

      Of course, bringing the predator numbers back to their original population won't damage the ecosystem.

  • @jayjohnson7827
    @jayjohnson7827 5 лет назад +3

    Its amazing how devastating human greed can be.

    • @Pomiferous
      @Pomiferous 5 лет назад +1

      Ask a sheep or elk how devastating a wolf can be.

    • @DoubleDogDare54
      @DoubleDogDare54 2 года назад +1

      Volunteer YOUR dogs or horses to feed the wolves then. I'm not volunteering mine.

    • @undary0u
      @undary0u 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@DoubleDogDare54 stupod comment elks dont belong to you dip shit they were the wolves prey far longer then ,white Europeans settled the lands

  • @justinadamo9365
    @justinadamo9365 6 лет назад +3

    Wolf conservation is necessary, but only if humans are in danger. Move your sheep,cows,pigs, and what ever else you have to a better location.

    • @ryanb1874
      @ryanb1874 5 лет назад +2

      Go fuck yourself. tell the land ownrerners to move. yea right.

    • @Pomiferous
      @Pomiferous 5 лет назад

      What's with the livestock discrimination Justin.

  • @daliborjovanovic510
    @daliborjovanovic510 5 лет назад +3

    Wolves are the elk's natural predator, anyone with even a faint understanding of how an ecosystem works knows that predator and prey can't properly exist without each other, either the prey overpopulates or the predator dies out without a source of food. Farmers are one thing, but I really have no sympathy for those assholes that whine about wolves decreasing their own chances of hunting elk. Yeah sure, because killing animals for sport is way more important than the wolf's need for elk to, y'know, feed itself.

    • @DoubleDogDare54
      @DoubleDogDare54 2 года назад

      Ever see how a pack of wolves kills an elk? There are videos on YT of them doing so. Check them out. Kinder for a hunted elk to catch a bullet and die in seconds than get slowly ripped apart in the hindquarters by a pack of circling wolves, bleeding out, going into shock, then getting eaten alive when they collapse and can't run away.
      You make it all sound very clean and desirable, wolves being a "natural predator". But it is YOU who don't have "...a faint understanding of how the ecosystem works....". Humans can keep the ecosystem in balance very well through hunting seasons where game animals get left alone to do their thing during the winter, spring and calving seasons, only coming under pressure in the fall, and then the excess killed humanely by hunters. Make it "natural" with large predators and that all changes, they are under pressure 24/7/365 and die miserable deaths.

    • @daliborjovanovic510
      @daliborjovanovic510 2 года назад

      @@DoubleDogDare54 So what? We should let wolves get exetrminated? You joking with me? Yeah, nature is brutal. Very brutal. No shit, Sherlock. Doesn't change the point I made, you sheltered city mouse XD Wolves can't go vegan.

    • @hyenaboy7504
      @hyenaboy7504 Год назад +1

      @@DoubleDogDare54 "Humans can keep the ecosystem in balance very well through hunting seasons"
      Yeah, sorry, but the fact they had to reintroduce wolves into Yellowstone to control the elk populations literally proves you wrong.

    • @undary0u
      @undary0u 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@DoubleDogDare54 you are incredibly stupid every comment of yours i stumble upon sounds dumber then the next ,genuine numbskull

  • @christinawarrington3192
    @christinawarrington3192 6 лет назад +7

    If you're eating what you hunt, that's fine. Though hunters don't get their way all the time. Other folks get to be productive as well. If tourists want wolves, then they have a viable claim as well.

    • @DoubleDogDare54
      @DoubleDogDare54 5 лет назад +2

      If tourists want wolves then I have no problem with the idea of trapping all the live wolves and moving them to the neighborhoods and suburban parks the tourists live in and enjoy, then turn the wolves loose and let the tourists deal with them.

    • @Pomiferous
      @Pomiferous 5 лет назад +1

      Plenty of wolves in Yellowstone for viewing.As long they stay on that federal reservation they should be fine until overpopulation calls for some thinning.

    • @undary0u
      @undary0u 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@DoubleDogDare54 simple minded ignoramus shouldnt expect any more less from a hunter 🤦🏾

  • @jimbigboystoys4077
    @jimbigboystoys4077 4 года назад +3

    Wolf lovers are always going to defend in the dogs no matter what. I love wolves too. But regardless of what people say about them… They ARE starting to become a problem! Especially in states like Montana. The wolves there have been protected for so long that their populations have reached a point where they are starting to kill off The herds of grazing animals like elk, Caribou, moose etc etc. Not only that… But they’re more DANGEROUS now! Because they’ve been protected for so long, they are starting to lose their FEAR of man! I love wolves… But facts are FACTS. They need to be thinned out a bit.

    • @Antonya944
      @Antonya944 4 года назад +3

      False just stop please it's getting old

    • @jimbigboystoys4077
      @jimbigboystoys4077 4 года назад +2

      antony gucci No… It’s NOT false. There are too many wolves. And no… I’m not going to stop telling the truth just because a handful of people don’t like what I’m saying. We have to listen to you… So you can listen to us.

    • @peterbenoni1470
      @peterbenoni1470 2 года назад

      Montana does have an exceptionally high grey wolf population in need of regulated hunting! In other states, however, where populations are just finding a foothold, hunting can be severely detrimental. Neither 100% advocacy for protection or hunting is really the best solution! We need state by state decisions on these matters that are productive to their respective populations.

    • @DoubleDogDare54
      @DoubleDogDare54 2 года назад

      @@peterbenoni1470 In populated states such as Wisconsin, Michigan, Minnesota, packs of wolves are not needed at all. They never should have been tolerated or allowed to spread into these areas. They are causing problems that have cost the state of Wisconsin millions in paying for the damages they have done. That's a ridiculous waste of taxpayer money. The whole lot of them should be hunted down and shot.

    • @peterbenoni1470
      @peterbenoni1470 2 года назад

      @@DoubleDogDare54 I see you have a very emotional investment in this. What you're not seeing, if you want to talk economics, is also the economic upsides of wolves. There's the obvious (coyotes down, so less livestock predation on average. They kill livestock only rarely and almost always when the animals are recklessly unprotected) but also things you may not have thought of. Do you have any idea how much money goes down the drain every year to deer-vehicle collisions in places utterly infested with ungulates lacking a natural predator? Wolves have been shown to drive that number down exponentially because they walk along roads to travel, which causes deer to avoid them. You seem to have gone from a stance of "I think they're neat but they need to be controlled" to "let's drive them extinct," unless I've confused you with another commenter (can't scroll up while typing this). That is a reckless solution, and not much of a solution at all. Populations CAN be effectively managed and even save taxpayer dollars with things like reduction in road damage, reduced traffic blockages, and tourism if they're regularly hunted and thinned enough to keep their numbers down. They can even lead to a lesser number of human deaths due to the reduction in road accidents.

  • @1_fishin_magician153
    @1_fishin_magician153 6 лет назад +6

    I don't know what really to say here....I do know the more mankind intervene with wildlife....them more problems arise. Hey...its not like the wolf can go to the store a buy a pound of beef.....so let it eat an leave nature alone.....
    1FM
    Lake George, NY

    • @DoubleDogDare54
      @DoubleDogDare54 5 лет назад

      Sound like a good plan until it is YOUR cattle, sheep and dogs the wolves are killing and eating and you depend on your livestock and dogs to pay your bills and support your family. When it comes to that, letting the wolves kill and eat whatever they want doesn't sound like such a great idea but is too often the viewpoint of city slickers and urban politicians who aren't affected by what they tell others they accept as the new normal.

    • @tyrantking1762
      @tyrantking1762 5 лет назад +3

      @Dirk Hunter I'm sorry. Did you learn ecology by watching the Lion King? You do realise a wolf pack only needs to hunt every few days right? They're not just running around eating everything in sight. Their kills feed scavengers. A large herd of elk does a lot more damage than a pack of wolves do. Herbivores will destroy crop fields if their numbers are not kept in check. Wolves are remarkably good at that. They also mainly target weak and sick animals thereby helping the herbivores survive by ensuring fitter animals pass on their genes. Wolves have been around for thousands of years without humans culling them, surely by your logic they would have eaten themselves to extinction long ago? Your argument is illogical.

    • @tiaranyknutson3959
      @tiaranyknutson3959 3 года назад

      @@tyrantking1762 Weak and sick Ha. Wrong. Got to many elk? Give out more elk tags. How much of the elk does the average wolf eat? Tongue, heart half of an elk? How much does a hunter like me take? Every edible piece. So yes the wolfs are killing more than videos like this will ever tell you. Do your own research and than you will know the truth.

    • @hyenaboy7504
      @hyenaboy7504 Год назад

      @@tiaranyknutson3959 The fact they had to reintroduce wolves into Yellowstone proves that simply "giving out more elk tags" doesn't always work when it comes to controlling populations.

  • @Bryant1963
    @Bryant1963 5 лет назад

    People hate wolves who are ignorant about the species, but wolves in today’s world need to be kept in check & managed just like any other animal because there are many people just like me, who like to hunt & eat elk, which also just happens to be the favorite food source for wolves here in the lower 48.

    • @daliborjovanovic510
      @daliborjovanovic510 5 лет назад +3

      Bitch, nobody gives a shit about hunters who kill animals for fun. Farmers are one thing, but few will sympathize with assholes who want to murder animals for bloodsport. And if you're hungry go buy a Happy Meal and leave the wild animals to their business. The only problem I see is that your kind is too ignorant to find another hobby.

    • @undary0u
      @undary0u 9 месяцев назад

      Then dont eat elk its that obvious, you have a choice whether to eat said thing or not they do not,they need it for survival 🤦🏾

  • @wbasmith3627
    @wbasmith3627 5 лет назад +3

    I wonder if this park service guy can explain why you cant see moose and the many elk calves that most vtsitors would also like to see in this beautiful park all missing since the stupid protection enactment. id rather see a variety of wildlife than just bunches of wolves. I dislike the wolf because of the way they hunt and kill,. Their is a place for them in the wilds as long as their numbers are reduced so the herbavors have a chance to level out their numbers. as long as there is game for them the wolves will keep producing packs

    • @HEAVYD700
      @HEAVYD700 5 лет назад +3

      So if you'd like to see a better balance of elk, moose, deer ECT why don't you banned hunting for a few yrs and watch the numbers rebound? Hunters take WAY more animals the a pack of wolves ever would. It would never happen. Ppl are the problem, not the wolves!

  • @balto4
    @balto4 6 лет назад +2

    You know what I find strange,people want wolves killed for killing other animals and there's a fair number of support for that. In Australia they cull sharks for killing humans and there's huge protests against that. It's just a strange observation,I don't support either nor am I against hunting either in controlled programs. I just find it strange compared to wolves I'd say sharks are more dangerous yet more will protest their killing. I think we have been conditioned to hate wolves for centuries,and yes while we fear sharks(thanks to jaws and other movies)it has not gone on as long

    • @hyenaboy7504
      @hyenaboy7504 Год назад +2

      I always wonder why people want animals killed just for doing what nature intended.

    • @balto4
      @balto4 Год назад

      @@hyenaboy7504 yes it is strange

    • @hyenaboy7504
      @hyenaboy7504 Год назад +1

      @@balto4 Yep. And then there's the people claiming the wolves in Yellowstone are "invasive" despite the fact wolves have been living there for several thousand years.

  • @moultonditcher6187
    @moultonditcher6187 5 лет назад +4

    Check out alberta,british Columbia Canada,they still have wolf culls,but yet no one will attack big oil,mining,gas,logging and the destruction of wildlife habitat,for the disruption of the ecosystems they cause.Sorry people,wolves are not your problem,but everyone needs a scapegoat.i hunt and fish.

    • @bricehenry1223
      @bricehenry1223 5 лет назад

      Wolves are the problem. You know know jack shit about the destruction wolves cause in Idaho. Wolves are pos nonessential vermin pest.

    • @hyenaboy7504
      @hyenaboy7504 Год назад

      @@bricehenry1223 Maybe nonessential to humans, but they sure as heck are essential to the ecosystem.

  • @billbriscoe9414
    @billbriscoe9414 6 лет назад +3

    In 95 and 96 Wolves were introduced back into the ecosystem of Yellowstone. There were already Wolves in Montana as well as Idaho. The Plan was to put them in Yellowstone ONLY as a Natural predator for Elk and Bison inside the park. Those packs thrived thus expanded way out of Yellowstone and onto ranches where the problems arose. The Wolf compassionate's all of a sudden wanted Wolves everywhere and protected EVEN outside the park! They set up a fund to pay Ranchers for lost sheep and cattle but it is not enough as a lot of these Cattle are not replaceable as they are future breeding stock. If any are found off the park, BLAST them. They should of been shooting them right off the bat when they left the park.

    • @fiselfrazel1064
      @fiselfrazel1064 5 лет назад +1

      Bill Briscoe I am sorry but all the scientists, ranchers, hunters, everyone knew that wolves would spread out of Yellowstone. Yes they were reintroduced into Yellowstone but that doesn’t mean wolves will stay in Yellowstone. Wolves will spread out naturally so there is not much you can do to keep wolves in Yellowstone except complete eradication.

  • @scottmontgomery4537
    @scottmontgomery4537 5 лет назад +1

    Back in 1980 I took a wildlife management class and back then the goal was to keep the grey wolf from going extinct in the lower 48 which I was fine with. But this plan to "rewild America" is insane. Northern Minnesota , northern Wisconsin, Yellowstone hell yeah. Do we really want wolves in Nebraska or Iowa? Why? That's someone else's pipe dream,not mine. I'm all for wolf management. Wolves are not going to go extinct because of a hunting season.

    • @DoubleDogDare54
      @DoubleDogDare54 5 лет назад +1

      I lived for many years in northern Wisconsin. Grew up there. Never heard so much as a coyote back then. There were a few black bears but you had to go to the Blue Hills region to find them. Now they've got coyotes, wolves, big population of bears and there have been sightings of mountain lions in the area as well.
      What you have to remember is northern Wisconsin is not a desolate wilderness area. Lots of towns, people, cattle, big vacation area, interstate highways, parks, farms. My brother still goes to the area every fall for deer hunting and last year he didn't fill his tag. Never saw a deer. Saw lots of coyotes and some wolves, but no deer. And the state has been paying out tons of money on wolf depredation claims. The idea was to have a few packs of wolves running around the place and haul in some elk from Tennessee to feed them. Problem is, the wolves didn't read the game plan. There are now several times more wolves than the max the DNR had slated, the wolves are killing the elk for sport and going after cattle, domestic dogs and other owned critters.
      People in the area are getting tired of it and last winter there were multiple instances of areas that harbor wolf packs being salted with fly bait laced frozen hamburger. The DNR knows the target is wolves and the poison did get some. I have a feeling the residents of the area are finally starting to fight back and if the state won't reduce the wolf population, citizens will. By any means necessary

    • @daliborjovanovic510
      @daliborjovanovic510 5 лет назад +1

      Wolf's are a native species to pretty much every corner of North America, by all accounts they have their right to be there.

    • @DoubleDogDare54
      @DoubleDogDare54 2 года назад

      ​@@daliborjovanovic510 Humans are as natural as any other species on this planet, we are apex predators and all apex predators decide what competitors they will tolerate in their territories. It was decided by our ancestors they would not tolerate the presence of mountain lions, wolves, bears and coyotes in populated areas and they were wiped out to guarantee the safety of humans and the domesticated animals humans own. There is absolutely ZERO reason to reverse that policy. Large predators are NOT needed in areas populated by humans and should be eliminated if they are present. This idea of "rewilding" areas where there is heavy human population is causing nothing but trouble and needs to be stopped. If you want to turn your property into a wolf sanctuary, have at it, but if they stray onto my property I'll take steps to kill every one of them. Guaranteed.

    • @hyenaboy7504
      @hyenaboy7504 Год назад +1

      @@DoubleDogDare54 So, basically, the entire ecosystem should be fucked up in areas where humans live?

    • @DoubleDogDare54
      @DoubleDogDare54 Год назад

      @@hyenaboy7504 You are overlooking the stone cold fact that humans are as much a part of the ecosystem as any other plant or critter. As such, our influence is as natural as any other part of nature. You cannot separate humans out and say otherwise.

  • @telaodonnell902
    @telaodonnell902 6 лет назад

    That wolf lady is well spoken.

  • @PatrickHRoss
    @PatrickHRoss 4 года назад

    the last lady to speak is wicked smart

  • @shawnb789
    @shawnb789 5 лет назад +4

    Humm, let's see, 20 dollars to take a picture of a wolf,, 700 dollars for an elk tag. Do the math. Pretty sure the tourist photo thing won't pull a state out of debt. Wolf packs shouldn't be wiped out but they should be controlled though hunting and trapping just like every other varmint.

    • @manigomez2387
      @manigomez2387 5 лет назад +2

      Its about 80 dollars to get into national parks. Yellowstone has 2 to 3million visitors. Do the math.

  • @dteunissen
    @dteunissen 4 года назад

    Wow

  • @tuborgcarlsberg1184
    @tuborgcarlsberg1184 6 лет назад +1

    In Oregon 4 month ago the wolf,s killed 19 elk in one day, and Oregon have less then 100 wolf all waste of elk and meat

  • @george10R11
    @george10R11 6 лет назад +1

    we need to do an unbias research

    • @DoubleDogDare54
      @DoubleDogDare54 5 лет назад

      george10R11 What needs doing is to poll the people living in the areas where wolves are plentiful and ask them if they want the wolves to stay or be removed. If they want them removed, live trap as many wolves as possible and transport them to the neighborhoods where the suburbanites and urban politicians who want wolves have their homes, yards and families. Then turn the wolves loose in those neighborhoods. Let's see how long the city folks love wolves when *they* have to deal with wolves themselves. Fair is fair and that would be a fair solution to the issue of wolves. Nothing like having senior citizens watching out their kitchen windows as wolves eat their Chihuahuas to change their minds for the better.

  • @libertyBuilders
    @libertyBuilders 5 лет назад

    God put wolves here to do what they do but he also put humans here to do what we do hunt and keep all animal species in check!

    • @Pomiferous
      @Pomiferous 5 лет назад

      3 stars for a pragmatic observation.

  • @philipstark760
    @philipstark760 5 лет назад

    If tourists are spending 35 million for wolves, then how much are they spending to come see the bison, elk, moose, and grizzly bears??

  • @gingermarie1760
    @gingermarie1760 3 года назад +1

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  • @lchelena5048
    @lchelena5048 10 лет назад +2

    lol, you would think nobody ever went to Yellowstone before the Canadian wolves were dumped there? The facts show that Millions of people went to Yellowstone park before 1995.

  • @masonplum450
    @masonplum450 10 лет назад +9

    If the people wouldn't kill so many elk maybe they would hve more to shoot

    • @bricehenry1223
      @bricehenry1223 6 лет назад +4

      If the POS wolves would not kill off most of the elk maybe we could enjoy the wilderness again. I hate barren wasteland on the wolf farm.

    • @ShadowSabrewulf
      @ShadowSabrewulf 6 лет назад +1

      Wolves got to eat too dickhead, man doesn't own the elk

    • @ShadowSabrewulf
      @ShadowSabrewulf 6 лет назад +1

      @siberian huskeyWolves kill to survive not for sport, man just kills to boost their ego

    • @Pomiferous
      @Pomiferous 5 лет назад

      Elk populations are doing just fine out west.It does require trained biologists to work out the numbers though.

    • @Pomiferous
      @Pomiferous 5 лет назад

      @@ShadowSabrewulf Not all meat eaters are egotist's simple Simon.

  • @66NEETS
    @66NEETS 11 лет назад

    I have baby sky blue eyes and a light gray on to and white under and endangered and live with humans

  • @george10R11
    @george10R11 5 лет назад

    is there a difference between a rat and a wolf a rat is much more useful in the laboratory

    • @hyenaboy7504
      @hyenaboy7504 Год назад

      Rats are members of the rodentia order, whereas wolves are members of the carnivora order. (that's one difference, anyway). And wolves are more vital in the natural ecosystem than rats are, since wolves help to control the populations of other animals.

  • @rogergoodwin374
    @rogergoodwin374 5 лет назад

    Who set a number for wolf population? Their natural prey # reduced to far. Now wolf's feeding on domestic stock.

  • @waltmorris9328
    @waltmorris9328 4 года назад

    how stupid do you think people are? when you try to tell us that the ranchers love the wolves. you call this a reintroduction of these non-native species it shows how little respect you have for the people who watch this program. there was an island off the coast of alaska that had an ever expanding deer herd with no natural predators. the state planted 2 breeding pairs of wolves on the island. every year they did a game count. after about 7 years the game count showed not a single deer remained and the wolf scat showed signs of wolf parts in the scat. this is what wolves do and this is what ed bangs and his gang of idiots has put on the people of the western u.s. i have to believe that they knew exactly what was going to come to pass as it has. there is a book "the real wolf story" that documents the destruction we can expect in the not too distant future of wildlife in our country. before the wolves there were approx. 20,000 wolves in yellowstone park . the latest game count that i read about puts the current game count below 2,000!!! i believe that idaho has suffered the same percentage of loss. them game dept could raise money to help fight the wolves by offering helicoptor hunting for a fee and i believe that there a lot of people with lots of money who would love to take part in a program like that. the remaining elk herds i think are moving closer to population centers simply to try to stay away from the wolves. it will only be a matter of time before we start losing peoples lives to these murderous creatures.

    • @Antonya944
      @Antonya944 4 года назад

      All of your information is false

    • @caniform-craze2080
      @caniform-craze2080 2 года назад

      More human lives have been lost to dogs.

    • @hyenaboy7504
      @hyenaboy7504 Год назад

      "ou call this a reintroduction of these non-native species" Wolves literally are native, though. "non-native" would be things like wild boar, can toads, etc.

  • @66NEETS
    @66NEETS 11 лет назад

    I am an 8 year old wolf pup ITS TRUE! I AM!!!!

  • @capt.america6296
    @capt.america6296 5 лет назад +1

    There was no need in the lower 48. Get rid of the wolf lovers first.

  • @66NEETS
    @66NEETS 11 лет назад

    with a black stripe around my neck

  • @stevemccoy8138
    @stevemccoy8138 2 года назад

    Trap and hunt wolves, it's what people want to do. 🐑

  • @weschaffin
    @weschaffin 6 лет назад

    They need to be controlled.

  • @danelobe2524
    @danelobe2524 5 лет назад

    We just run them over with our snowmobiles.....
    fill your track with the new wolf killer cleats by @dead dogs.
    there the best wolf cutters out there for your snowmobile.

  • @michaelsteffen4887
    @michaelsteffen4887 6 лет назад

    Kill as many wolves as possible...one came after my little puppy!

    • @Pomiferous
      @Pomiferous 5 лет назад

      The coyotes are known to snag darling little puppies here in the South West.

    • @jam5533
      @jam5533 3 года назад

      So push an entire species close or to extinction??

    • @hyenaboy7504
      @hyenaboy7504 Год назад

      Bit extreme wanting an entire species killed off just because one individual killed your dog.

  • @telaodonnell902
    @telaodonnell902 6 лет назад +1

    That wolf lady is well spoken.