Privilege
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- According to the Theory of Privilege, everybody is born into different circumstances. And those circumstances make certain outcomes in life more likely relative to those born into different circumstances. Circumstances that render a higher likelihood of a fulfilling life are what's labeled 'Privileges.'
The Argument: This is a theory, nevertheless, a fair observation. Certain characteristics make certain outcomes more likely. However, many of the characteristics labeled 'Privileges' are conditional and many of them can be earned (if not already inherited). This is an abstract argument and should not be used to justify any assumptions about an individual.
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Fully expected something about how most women of color prefer white males to even those of their own colour. Still awesome video, and good job correcting alot of the bs around this topic
One interesting thing to note, is that up until white privilege, all the accepted privileges granted direct advantages (i.e. options). However, your explanation for white privilege relies on the likelihood of having other privileges which would grant direct advantages.
This pushes your conclusion about applying averages to individuals one level up. The white baby may or may not have the other privileges.
My biggest problem with this whole issue is when people try to exclude people from a conversation based on their privilege.
Same
That's stupid.
Just draw two cards
Exactly. It's like...reverse tyranny.
But even moreso, why would you EXCLUDE someone of privilege from a conversation?? They might be a potential ally to your cause!
But no, you're discriminating them based off your prejudices and assuming they're juuust like all the others like them.
How the hell did humanity come to this?
yeah, but in the country i'm from, there was a TV debate 2 years ago where they talked about sexism, and they invited 4 men. that's even more ridiculous than excluding them from the conversation.
they did apologize afterwards and remade the debate with 3+ women (i don't know if they actually overcorrected their initial mistake and invited 4, it's been some time and i can't find it quickly)
the privilege of being born in a place that uses the metric system.....
The disprivilege of being born in a place that doesn't...
@@herolddesasozialennetzwerk1423 Yes, because most mass shootings arent done with handguns.
Imagine preaching about your tolerant atheist ways by being prejudiced against religious people.
Also, the idea that countries that ban guns are safer than countries that don't... just as wrong as thinking having privileges automatically makes you successful
Dorian Wiegelmann I thought you said you lived in an atheist household
It's not a privilege when you want to see a video and they use ft and Farenheit (thank god some channels use both but some don't)
Ah I love when this channel covers semi-controversial issues. You have such a Lawful Neutral way of explaining things that could potentially get very dicey in way that keeps things calm, logical, fair, and to the point. Keep it up.
Now I want the option to vote for Zim...
Yeah it’s a gift lol.
I love it
I love the DND alignment system. It's beautiful in its simplicity, even though in reality most people would fall under just a few of the 9 categories. The problem of evil and all that.
@@NobbsAndVagene Indeed. Everyone is good in their own eyes. Whenever I see someone play a lawful evil character in dnd they always tend to go more towards a psychopath when they should really be more like Tywin Lanister
These “privileges” are pretty ethnocentric. Being white and Christian is a privilege in the USA, but certainly not in Japan or in Saudi Arabia.
im pretty sure counter arguments is based in the us so he probably wrote it with its societal privileges in mind but the fundamental principles apply across the word, just that the characteristics, of course, different. you are right tho
Marcos Mingucha I wasn’t disagreeing with CO; he’s just echoing what leftists are saying. I’m more disagreeing with/attacking those leftists whom he’s echoing. The far left always claims to be open minded and to hate ethnocentrism, while at the same time insisting that being white and Christian is automatically an inborn privilege. These two ideas are contradictory.
@@PockASqueenoI think few leftists would deny that cultural context shapes privilege. Some leftists may use shorthand of "this person is privileged" but the underlying assumption is that we are talking about the shared culture of the conversation's participants (or some other culture depending on the statement's context). Obviously, there are people who argue badly and don't make their point clear but I think few leftists believe that privilege is divorced from culture.
I think a lot of people forget that Christian's don't really, have any inherent advantages anymore.
How is being Christian an advantage? How is being white a privilege? It isn’t the skin color that matters, it’s the family your born into.
A privileged person had no more choice in their birth than an unprivileged person. Acknowledging that privilege should be done, but to demonize someone for having privilege is the same thing as demonizing someone for not having privilege
I agree with you, but often when we undermine privileges in our life we often become blind of the effect environment has on other people. There’s a trend with some people to just believe racism, sexism, homophobia, and all other kinds bigotry don’t exist anymore . But if we do fall into that mental trapping we ignore many issues that generally effect people that are less privileged. We shouldn’t be ashamed of privilege but we need to be mindful of it. If we are, we can work to give people in need more opportunity, try to fight against things that keep people down and understand more about other people.
@Kelly Obrien I don't see how that affects my point. There are people who go to the extreme in every community in the world. Does that mean we should throw out everything minorities have been saying just because a few of them go to the extreme?
And really, it can create unproductive solutions when start demonizing. I grew up in relative poverty, but I don't demonize rich people. In fact, I defend them. Why? Because it's unproductive. What is them admitting their privilege going to do? Other than it's saying their experience is different then mine, it really isn't going to do anything. So we might as well not even pretend that's a solution. Instead, we need to get into why I am poor and why he is rich. Then we might find a grouping of individual choices playing as much part in that difference as we do circumstances.
This is so true
True
I think "privelege" has become such an umbrella term to the point it lost its meaning. The word has been tainted by its use undermine the plights of others to the point I am unsure we should even use it anymore.
I just got into an argument with someone on what I think about police brutality and how it's a human problem and not always racism. They went on to say that I'm so privileged that I deny racism based upon my skin color. I then told them that you shouldn't use such a broad term to talk down onto people and they replied with "You deny that white privilege exists." when that literally wasn't the point I'm going for.
I honestly think at this point, everyone doesn't know what the words they throw around mean and how they have no meaning anymore. People are so misinformed and uneducated I swear.
It is literally just an appeal to authority argument... "You aren't a black trans woman born with no legs... Then your privilege is clearly preventing you from seeing that I was right all along... Despite having to resort to this nonsense to win the debate because I couldn't come up with a real argument..." It is a really dumb argument...
No doubt. Can the world stop judging actions based off of who did them and words by who said them?
@@ShankaDaWanka It would be nice. What is funny is some people don't understand critical thinking, reasoning, or logic and would imagine that judging an argument or action by who says or does them makes sense.
(looking a kid practicing math: Do you know who else thought 2 + 2 = 4? HITLER THAT'S WHO!!!")
Not all, but many of them, are legitimately suffering from the Dunning Kruger effect to the point of it becoming a mental disorder. It feeds into itself with the confirmation coming from all sides in their echo chamber. "Well that other guy said I was right so I must be, and he probably has some idea what is going on" says everyone with no idea what is going on ever...
I had to look it up but it is called "Mass psychogenic illness". It is when some group or echochambered collection of people becomes steadily more convinced their side is filled with experts and so they can just assume their side is right, despite having no idea what is going on and not bothering to apply logic, reason, or critical thinking. Also sometimes called mass hysteria or mass delusions... That is what the political polarization is. The two party system is becoming dueling echochambers of mass hysteria.
@@ssffe529
Some of us still had the privilege of receiving a decent education, I consider myself one of the lucky ones.
Thing is, it doesn't strike me as a rational approach to accuse people of being lucky.
Best not swear, there is too much name calling and swearing in these youtube comment sections already :)
No joke, this is probably the best and most eloquent I've ever seen anyone tackle this subject anywhere. Your videos are on another level man. You deserve a million subscribers.
Stereotypes are utilized as facts by basically all portions of the political spectrum. How they are selected for usage is a different matter. The left tends to use care based morality for their selection method and the right tends to use justice based morality for their selection method. That's why the left uses the oppression narrative against the right and the right uses a behavioral narrative against the left using statistics. They state things in group format and then people apply those group formatted statements to every individual in the group. That is bigotry driven by two separate morality frameworks.
You see i had the unfortunate luck to be born a Gamer, now i am oppressed from every angle through no fault of my own.....
Are you sure you're oppressed because you're a gamer and not because you were born into the middle class?
@@no-lifenoah7861 Yes, there is no other explanation, there is no middle class, that is an illusion, if you dig deep enough you'll realise that the middle class is actually just Gamers, thats it, it goes Disney - lizard people - the upper class - the working class - human-animal hybrids and finally Gamers at the bottom
@@VS-Violet Its a truly disgusting system, in the name of the lizard people I am very sorry that you have to go through that
Guys. I think we didn't get the joke
Anyway nice satire!. I hope it's satire...
You did a really good job at fairly assessing the theory and analyzing all of the aspects. The conclusions you came to are perfectly fair and make sense. Videos like this are why your channel is one I enjoy and trust.
You are everywhere, by the way big fan
senpai tiger0chan notice me
Huge fan of both channels.
Tell cody to make what if rome never existed part 3
You don't even need to trust him, not much
Every logical step is right there
So. Fucking. Stimulating.
Judging everyone as individuals is the only fair way, period.
very true
"Judging", yes. However, the only means we have of evaluating how society works, is collectivism. We can only turn to statistics to evaluate the success of our laws and policies, and our social behaviors, we can only find collective issues by analyzing them collectively. Pure individualism necessarily fails at building a society.
@@QuinnArgo he means individually. its unhealthy to judge people based on groups and race when they might not associate or live in the same conditions as that group on average
@@QuinnArgo using statistics does not require collectivism. It requires generalization. Collectivism is a philosophical, epistemological failure. Individualism is the view of entities as separate. Always. Collectivism is treating multiple entities as a single one based on certain characteristics. But it is done consistently. It's a world view. It's a philosophy. You can't be a collectivist and individualist at the same time. It's a conflicting ideology.
Generalization is not collectivism because you take a common trait and use it for approximation. It's never concrete and never taken as an absolute. Collectivism does take everything as concrete and an absolute. For example, individualists don't see race as a useful concept for humans outside of a visual descriptor or medical purposes. It is pointless in any other respect because individualism cannot make anything using that trait in terms of evaluating a human being. Collectivists, on the other hand, use race to determine plenty of the things and do a ton of pre-judgement, making race a far more relevant concept when they look at a human being.
If laws are made by individualists, they will be fair because they treat everyone, without exception, the same according to the law. Equality before the rule of law. A collectivist would make laws that apply to secondary and tertiary characteristics which would automatically lead to discrimination. Most vocal people you hear politically (especially at the time of writing this comment) are collectivists. It can be easily discerned by their speech and rhetoric. On the right, on the left, it doesn't matter. Laws need to be created according to an objective ethics. They are not supposed to work according to statistics. Statistics can inform how to go about laws in practice and some details of the law (like age of consent) but the main argument of the law needs to come from an objective ethics - objective in the objectivist sense, not the mainstream fallacy of the concept.
okay so let's say you were born in Somalia and you're very poor.
are you an evil guy for robbing cargo ships?
"Being tall is not a privilege while flying coach..."
PREACH
Its cool to see you here
We are not worthy of you gracing our humble comment section.
Get lost, we don't need your propaganda here
@@bremcurt9514 wtf
@@NobodyPablo That dude spreads right wing propaganda
Male but short
Why must you hurt me this way?
get fukt manlet
WigglyWoo he broke my heart too
Haha hilarious
It's ok, that leg room on the plane doesn't hurt you like it hurts us tallies
Are you short as a man? I think you know what I mean.
See, it IS actually possible to discus 'previlege' productively.
It's possible to discuss anything productively when it's just you talking to a camera for 20 minutes. Give it a few days and see what's become of the comment section to see how productive this ends up being.
Monologues are not discussions.
@@Luftgitarrenprofi But they are means to start one at times
Privilege is stupid
Yeah it’s easy to state your argument when you’re not being constantly interrupted.
Genuinely thought this was very balanced, clear and focused. Very enjoyable.
Totally Not Mark hey you were in the livestream
O hai mark
how are you here why are there so many RUclipsrs in this comment section
My favorite privileges:
-Voting for representatives at the city, county, state and national levels.
-Being able to buy food, along with a machine which keeps it cold.
-Indoor plumbing.
Wow! Such an honor to be included in this video! Thank you so much, and thanks to everyone who checked out the full talk after. So grateful! I have my own channel now, come on over and visit!
Was it an "honor" or a "privilege"?
@@jeffreycallen4145 it is earnt, so it's not a privilege.
this comments needs to be higher
I feel like conversations would go a lot farther if it wasn't called privilege, but opportunity.
Agreed, the term privilege implies the person has some form of mal-intent unintended or otherwise any argument that automatically alienates people is automatically going to start shit before the first insult gets thrown
This gets to the actual point, but isn't a privilege the reason why you have some opportunities, or rather the lack thereof the reason why you don't?
No you wouldn't because you'd have to prove that someone has that opportunity and someone doesn't. You need to use "privilege" because it's a vague term that's used wrong in order to explain ones own inferiority. That way, nobody can call you out. It's like when SJW say whiteness when they mean white people.
Check your opportunity.
@@mr.thongsong8473 Nah, you're mistaken in thinking some terms are too vague. To address your example, Whiteness and white people are not the same thing. White people, roughly understood as people with fair skin, existed for millennia before any concept of a "White race" was introduced. "Whiteness" is an inherently racial concept. And if you believe "race" is only a sociopolitical invention, then so is "Whiteness".
"Whiteness" can carry cultural or political notions of trans-ethnic unity, shared history, hierarchy, biological destiny, fraternity, etc. which don't at all need to overlap with a person with white skin. In a racialised society, or de-racialising society, the two will unavoidably overlap, with white people being forced to operate within "Whiteness". But it doesn't need to be that way. Hence critique of "Whiteness" as a residue political identity or social structure.
2:50 "And living in a country that is in no internal conflict and at relative peace"
Americans in Mid-2020: Well that's gonna change soon
bogaloo with me my fellow Irish?
Oh man, so much has happened in the last 3 weeks. I think we are in civil war and just in denial about it at this point.
You should have listed the privilege of being able to enjoy your content.
Seiden Labs Actually, yeah he should have. Access to internet is a big one
Aww, how sweet
Seiden Labs The privilege of being able to critically think
Acces to internet is largely if not solely based on the level of wealth that an individual has.
Jonas Strzyz Most people have access in the internet, even how backwatered your area that you’re living in.
“Man, I wonder how privileged I am...”
*fits at least 16/18 of the list of examples* “oh ok”
Exactly the same. Im not Christian nor am I American...
me over here at 12... Not straight, not christian, not cisgender, not mentally healthy, etc etc
Do you consider a mom dying when her child is 12 a healthy intact family?
Oh with an ignoring father ..
Mentally healthy, beautiful, intact family and well raised were blurry for me.
However do you consider fleeing a war to another country "living in peace" ?
Remember don’t feel bad about it !
The fact that you said "at least" made me giggle, mah mans fits in so many categories that he stopped counting XD
A whole video to realize that privilege is statistical, multidimensional, and nuanced. It was intersectionalism all along.
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Doesn't intersectionality in sociology mean that, for example, a black woman will not experience the same type of discrimination a black man or a white woman might and not something that could be described by "adding" the discrimination the latter two experience, but something more or less unique to black women?
useless* FTFY
@@ler6118 The thesis of intersectionality is not about discrimination or any other necessarily negative attribute but rather about the disparity of _experiences_ among combinations of demographics. Straight, white, men have their own set of problems in addition to their unique set of privileges.
@@hangukhiphop well yes and the thesis of communism is that workers tend to not have as much control as the managers. It goes wrong in the solution.
Everybody keeps ignoring the greatest X factor in this conversation: who is in front of you? What does that person stand for?
If the person who is in front of you doesn't care about the fact that you are tall, white, christian, hetero etc etc. Then... All these thing about privilege go nowhere. If the person in front of me is, let's say, a muslim, and he is "powerful" (meaning he has the ability to damage me) and hates me because i am a cristian, then that "privilege" of being christian only damaged me, so at that point it is no longer a privilege. If a black kid is raised in a class of only whites he is likely to be moked for being black (bullies try to hit you in every weack spot you might have), if a white kid is raised in a class of only black people, that priviledge of being white now becomes a disadvantage, because he will probably be bullied for being white.
So instead of thinking as "most powerful group = privilege",
we should start thinking "who has power at that MOMENT? And is he/she going to use it to damage someone? If so ... WHY?"
Facts. Too many people ignore situations when discussing this and that is pretty much everything when measuring privilege.
Of course in individual situations, privilege can basically be pushed aside because of power dynamics like you said, but like our friend said in this video, we're simply discussing privilege as it relates to society as a whole and how much easier your life ends up being as a result of involuntary traits :)
@@colorsinmyhead Every situation is just a bunch of individual situations put toghether, you can give a "in general" statement, but it usually ends up not solving any situation whatsoever and sometimes it just puts more gas on the fier. Once you stop looking at the group, wich is usually a very superficial and politicized look, and start looking deeper, you realize there is no "society as a whole". Everytime someone sees racism, the situation is usually far, far more complicated than that, but people do not have time or do not want to dig into that shade of gray, because the harsh truth is that in 99% of the times the outcome would have been the esact same if the skin colour of that person would have been different. After years of people just trowing around the word racism at every occasion possible the media is slowly turning into a "if in doubt it's racism" machine for clickbait and nothing gets addressed beyond that, nobody tries to find solutions to problems that affect everybody and just pushes these "anti-racism" training that are going to do absolutely nothing.
I'm not going to respond to the main point, but I think it's funny that you think white kids are ever bullied for being lighter skinned
@@ratboii7656 I've seen white kids being called "mozarella", "cracker" and "mayo" so many times i've lost count. As long as you have one characteristc different from the group and the group has one motivation to hate you, your different trait will be mocked. It happens, if you have never seen it good for you, but ask a teacher of a majority black high school how white kids are treated. Chanses are they will anwer you in a very simple way: "just like a black kid is treated in a majority white high school, he is easilly outcasted".
And just remember
Correlation doesn't always equal causation.
Right, when he went through the averages that being born white had, it was more that each other part, being wealthy, educated, and loved, was a privilege rather than being white itself. You could argue that it becomes a privilege by virtue of being more likely to have the others, but the existence of poor, uneducated, unloved white people means it doesn't cause those privileges, only correlating with them with very, very specific statistics. If we looked at it another way, making white people the base and seeing where they fall economically, rather than seeing which race successful people are, you see that they fall very evenly across the entire area.
So being white somewhat correlated to good families, wealth, and education, but doesn't cause them itself and therefore is not itself a privilege.
@@BLaRgXrvbX I'd would argue that some arbitrary characteristic becomes a "privilege" the moment you defined it as such. As we can see in the video, most of the listed "privileges" don't strictly adhere to the definition but were claimed as such nonetheless. Furthermore, many of the "privileges" listed in the video may not be considered advantageous in other social settings apart from the US. For example, in the middle ages being overweight was a sign of wealth since most people didn't have enough food.
This is why Privilege Theory is not objective, neither useful. It needs subjective opinions on perceived advantages injected into a specific social setting just to be mildly accurate. It cannot predict success, nor explain why some people are successful while other people are not.
@@kevinnio this sounds like a logical fallacy. You're wanting throw out the entire concept of unearned advantages by saying some things that people describe as privilege don't apply in every setting. You're throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
Wealth can be earned, but regardless of whether you've had it since birth, it offers monumental advantages across the board. I would never have described being thin as a privilege. Having a high metabolism to be naturally and effortlessly skinny might be, but it comes with other health disadvantages. In this way, wealth is a privilege and thinness is not.
I don't put much stock in privilege theory, but saying that the entire concept of privilege is useless is simply ignorant and hasty.
@@BLaRgXrvbX The problem is that there are some genuine issues that minorities tend to face more often due to past and present racism, that can lead to those other priveleges not being as much of an option for them. For example, black people are much more likely to be arrested for smoking weed than white people, even if they smoke weed at about the same rate. This leads to a higher incarceration rate and criminal record, leading to more poverty, family disruption, etc. which all contribute to them being un-priveleged.
Contrapoints did a great video on this subject:
ruclips.net/video/GWwiUIVpmNY/видео.html
@@Jacob-yg7lz that sounds more like being black is a disadvantage, rather than white being an advantage. If being white was the advantage, the same benefit would not extend to Asian tones, and would extend to most Hispanics. Instead, the exact nature of the disadvantage changes every 5 years in a range of various black and dark Hispanic tones. This also says nothing of any advantages they may have or disadvantages of being light-colored.
I stand by the statement that it's a correlation with other advantages, rather than simply being one in and of itself.
the way he laughed when he said “male, but short” .... ouch😂
I'm average height where am I?
@@bearholdensharkslux4791 5'11 is considered borderline tall
@@puppy3908 not to most girls
World average is short than us average
@bearholdensharks LUX: Apparently. It's been demonstrated that Women think 70% of men are "below average" . . .
Red cars are more involved in accidents because "they go fasta"
40K Jokes aside, an excelent video, as usual.
@Wapfy No ya git! Yellow iz da shootiest kolour 'cause yellow gunz are da splodiest an 'cause teef are yellow an moar teef means moar dakka!
Cantankerous Tank Blue iz fer luck
@Wapfy Planetside reference?
@@FactoryofRedstone
Warhammer40K
Orks have an interesting trait:
they are not very intelligent, but if enough of them believes in something - it becomes true
They believe that red cars go faster and yellow grenades explode more because someone told them that some time ago. That was a lie back then, but is true now, because they believe in it.
Interestingly enough, red cars are more likely to be pulled over than other colors. Of course, you can choose what color car to get so nobody better make a "non-red privilege" argument
You've validated a lot of my intuitions on the subject that I have not yet been able to verbalize.
It's so hard to speak of these things because everyone just REACTS. They automatically assume if you're questioning privilege, you're alt-right, racist, etc.
Thank you.
I think it should be pointed out that "Tall-Privilege" is never invisible. Everyone was short at one point in their life.
i came out of the womb 6 foot 2
Well, not necessarily. People are born taller or shorter on average than people their age. I am a female and 5’10”. This makes me, on average, taller than most other women. As a kid I was taller than girls my age. I was always taller than girls my age. It all depends on what you use as your reference point, I suppose. But it is a fact that I don’t know what it is like to be shorter than kids my age.
But there is a significant difference between life as a child and life as an adult. How can you know the experience of being a short adult if you've never been one?
As a tall person i don't truly understand what it's like to be short. Perhaps that's just me and other tall people can better assess the difference, but at the very least i am a counterexample to disprove your "never"
But your comment provides an interesting observation. From what I've seen tall people seem to be mostly neutral about height. In contrast short people tend to wish they were taller. Perhaps the perspective of having been both is what causes indifference?
"How's the weather up there?"
"Hey can you get that for me please?"
"Carful not to hit your head on your way in."
I get these a lot.
Firaro you’re not expecting you’re future life as a short adult as a child at that point... you’re expecting a childhood as a taller kid, and that does have some privileges.
As a black woman I have found a paradox when discussing privileges with my white friend. I always remembered interrupting myself and contesting that I to have privilege. So this video helped me put my jumbled thoughts into one argument. Some of me always knew that privilege was abstract I just never really knew what to do with that information. It saddened me to hear the privileges that I have over others because I wish I could grant them with it but it also saddened me to hear the privileges people had over me. What I concluded from this video is that no matter what someone will always have it better then me and someone will always have it worse on varying scales. And while I still think it is important to have discourse on privilege I will not be focusing on it as I enter the workforce and become successful.
Physical attractiveness is the most unfairly influential privilege in life, and one which rarely gets discussed in public forums. I think this needs to change
MostlyLoveOfMusic especially for female
This is the most incelly comment thread on this video.
@@guestusersomething4340 i think just ask an acid-attack victim before and after and see what a tragic difference it would have made to their lives
MostlyLoveOfMusic that’s absolutely absurd. I obviously wasn’t talking about someone being disfigured because of an attack or an accident. I’m talking about individuals that were born ugly and feel like they have some huge disadvantage in any area besides dating and act like the most oppressed people on earth. Which is what incels tend to do. Being ugly isn’t a handicap if you actually have other things going for you.
Edit: Typo
@@guestusersomething4340 tbf, any handicap is a handicap and that's essentially what privilege (or a lack of it) is all about... but there are different extremes of it i agree
if you've ever faked a hate crime then got acquitted of 16 felonies please step forward a thousand steps
Lark Macallan arguably, being a minority could be considered a privilege in today’s political climate.
@@theoreticallyharmony6752 Not arguably. Factually.
@@theoreticallyharmony6752 amen
@@larkmacallan4257 Some questions, just to make things clear: A minority across what axis? Political affiliation? Race? Theological beliefs?
Next Question: What numerical definition of 'minority' are we using? As in, 'less than half of the total population'? if so, what group constitutes 'the total'? If not, what fraction size constitutes a 'minority'?
After defining 'minority' explicitly, I'd be interested to see what the evidence for your claim is. Are members of such groups more likely than average to hold high wages? or be less subject to violence? What beneficial metric statistically tends to be higher within such groups?
@@rmbee5412 I would guess he is talking specificly about a racial minority, and is likely defining a minority group as any group which is generally considered to be a minority by the total population of the US.
With this in mind, there are definitely a lot of privileges that come as a direct result of being a minority in the US. Their are charities dedicated to assisting poor minority families because they are poor minorities, their are minority only college scholarships, and in general there are large segments of society which will hold you in higher regard because you are a minority which they view as being oppressed (however admittedly whether or not this last one is a privilege or an insult depends on who you are as a person).
Compared to this, at least in the United States, I would argue that minority groups do not have any more or less privilege then white people do (which I think we can both agree is the majority group based on the previously stated criteria). My reasoning being that all of the privileges that statistically corelate with being white, wealthiness, a stable family, a safe neighborhood, etc. are not in any way caused by their whiteness. Basically the fact that they are white does not give these advantages it's just that more people who have these advantages just so happen to be white, the relation is entirely correlation without a hint of causation.The previously mentioned advantages of being a minority however are a direct result of their minority status, and as such leave the trait of minority as one that on the whole grants some small amount of privilege in the US. This is of course not to say that all minorities are inherently more privileged then they are disadvantaged, just to say that the fact that they are a minority not only doesn't cause that disadvantage in and of itself, but in some situation might do a little to counteract that disadvantage.
"Im male, but I'm ugly,
I'm poor, but I'm kind,
I'm short, but I'm healthy yeah!
I'm thin, but I'm hungry
I'm white, but I'm super gay
I'm tired, but I'm hopeful, baby!
And, what it all comes down to
Is that everything's gonna be quite all right,
Cuz I've got one hand in my pocket,
and the other one is giving a high five"
@MeinLuciFuhrer I wanna go back in time...
As a poor ugly disabled trans old asexual lesbian, I'm offended.
Since when does my being thin be a privilege. I'm not a chick and am only thin because I was raised poor and wasn't fed enough. My parents got more money later on so my younger brother is taller and weighs a lot more than me.
I like how being white is a bad thing according to you
Being born in the 21st century is a privilege you dolt. the past was not better
I really wish "privilege" was framed as "disadvantage". I don't have X privilege, you are disadvantaged because of X.
Plus it has the added benefit of not pointing at a group. Black people are "privileged" on a sunny beach, sure, but it's more helpful to say east Asians are disadvantaged on the same sunny beach. Why even include black people in the conversation?
I'm (a white guy and am) much more likely to want to help a person disadvantaged because of their race, but if you tell me I have white privilege and should feel ashamed that helps nobody.
I know exactly what you mean. Saying someone has a disadvantage creates sympathy and would be much more likely to cause people to help each other. Saying someone has privilege is nothing more than an Ad Hominem at this point that does nothing but cut the conversation short by discrediting one's arguments based on irrelevant circumstances.
You’re probably right. “Disadvantage” has better optics to it than “privilege,” and it would make having conversations about it easier since there’s less likely to be a personalized “poisoning of the well” effect from the start. At the same time though, I run in leftist circles and I’ve never once heard someone say you should feel “ashamed” if you have white privilege - it seems like many people hear that as a knee jerk response when that’s not actually what’s being said.
NOBODY IS SAYING YOU SHOULD FEEL ASHAMED.
The reason the conversation is framed as 'group x is privileged' rather than 'group y is disadvantaged' is because it recognises that group x has more power to change the status quo than group y does. As the group with more influence, more onus is on them to be aware of their ability to make a difference.
@@yousexythang208 It sure feels like a shaming technique. Forcing people to "admit their privilege" doesn't seem like a charitable way to have a conversation.
And even if it isn't, that really seems like a super racist/homophobic/sexist thing for you to say. Like, you don't believe black/gay/women folk can achieve on their own. That's shameful dude.
If we framed the argument "yousexythings are disadvantaged and need assistance", I'd jump to help. If you frame it as "Andy Lords are privileged" I'm much more likely to feel slighted and be less willing to help.
If disadvantaged group needs help, then picking an unnecessary fight with the group they want help from seems (if I'm generous) counterproductive.
Andy Lord so based on the wording your more likely to help damn that sounds like privilege “maybe if you were nicer I would help you disadvantaged people”
Another issue with the subject of privilege is the conflation of 'unearned' with 'undeserved'. When someone is told they have a privilege that is unearned, they hear undeserved, and the implication is that they should have had a worse life. And even the woman on the Dr. Phil clip said "white people have privilege they don't deserve". It puts people on the defensive. I myself am fairly privileged, and I go into these arguments with the attitude of "I am privileged, and I refuse to apologize for it." Maybe it's not fair that I was able to receive expensive treatment for a rare disability, but I wouldn't go back and refuse treatment to achieve some ideal of fairness. Particularly since my receiving that treatment did not prevent anyone else from receiving similar treatment
A very important part of the discussion that gets left out a lot. Just because you didn't earn something, doesn't mean you don't deserve it. People born with conventionally attractive facial features don't have to work for them, but they are still entitled to them. If you have an above average IQ, you have the right to use it to your advantage.
@@gabrielfraser2109 Your statement "Using ones intelligence to ones advantage is acceptable" seems interesting to me.
It somehow feels to me, that being put into this position of power one should use ones inteligence in everyones best interest, not just in selfinterest.
Am I misrepresenting you here / you were speaking only in legal rights, or what would be your arguement for it being morally permissible to use this resource in purely egoistic ways?
And woule that be something specific to intelligence, or do you believe this for every resource?
@@XyntXII I think you should have the right to use your power however you desire. No one else has any right to tell you what to do with your privilege i.e. intelligence. I also think that fundamentally you should use your position for everyones best interest BUT you should primarily focus on yourself. No one has any right whatsoever to your skills or talent and the most effective way to help others is to help yourself first. By using your intelligence for your own advantage you can become more intelligent, more educated, become wealthy and have more power, and from this enhanced position you can help far more people.
For example, look at Bill Gates. He clearly was a genius, and if he was told to use his genius for ONLY helping others I would argue that he would have accomplished far less than he has now. First of all, by starting a huge company and becoming rich he helped himself yes, but he also made personal computing accessible to the entire world, employed hundreds of thousands of people and now that he is rich he is using his wealth as a source of good. His charities have helped millions get access to clean water, he is basically single-handedly turning the tide of the fight against malaria and fighting other diseases and causes. If for example he saw that he was a genius, he had intelligence privilege and was told to use it ONLY for helping others he could have (for example) worked at/started a non-profit aiming to solve malaria. How much impact would he have in that venture? Without his billions of dollars and influence? I'm sure he could make a difference but it would be a lot smaller, let alone all the positives he contributed to our society in the process of growing microsoft (technology, jobs, economy etc). You can apply this same logic to every resource or privilege earned, you can only maximally help others by first helping yourself. So not only is it morally reprehensible to imply that society or anyone else "deserves" the fruits of your privilege any more than you do, it is BETTER for society if we allow those who have privilege and the desire to do good with it to grow their influence and become maximally competent.
@@Liamb2179 I think you are conflating two distinct arguments, where it is not helpful to do so.
The one is the question if we have a duty to not only strive for our own best interests, but also for the interest of others and the different question how to best achieve that.
Your answer to the second one makes the first one less relevant, but if you imagine a world in which it is not as clear cut as you imagine in your answer to the second question answering the first question becomes important.
Now a bit to your Randian bit, though I am no expert in this:
By your logic, that the best way to act is in self interest would say it is wrong of Bill Gates to use the power he has to help People through the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation, because that is not in his interest.
Also you picked a billionaire who not only made his money in tech instead for example in weapons and also is now investing into humanity. Why not pick one who uses his capital to strenghthen his influence in politics to keep weapon exports to saudi arabia going, so he makes more profit? I don't see how that could ever be in the best interest of society.
Nonprofits do not always have to be the best way to have a positive impact on the world, but your statement that the best way to help everyone is just to act as selfish as possible seems like a great claim needing great evidence.
@@XyntXII Even if you use your intelligence for the well being of the society, you need to use it and not apologize for it and shut it in a cupboard.
Ah, was just revisiting your twelve angry men analysis. Good to see another video.
It's funny that you made the "red car" argument...I used the exact same argument in a video of mine wihout having watched this one before :D
"Male privilege" notion is extremely problematic, especially outside of US, especially not in a good environment.
Able-bodied and peace privilege was mentioned me by my mother every time I mention about my childhood traumas. At this point it's even more depressing to know, you have one, but couldn't do anything with it.
Wasn’t sure what I would think about this, but this was an incredibly fair video. And frankly I agree with what you said for the most part. Excellent job.
If there was one thing I could take issue with, it's the fact that he didn't look into the interlinking between those privileges. To what extent are black people less well off purely because of their skin colour, and to what extent is it because decades upon decades of slavery and Jim Crow have made their economic situation worse than that of white people, meaning they have less *wealth* privilege. Maybe it's their lack of wealth privilege which leads to their higher rates of disfunctional families, crime etc. and their poorer education and incomes
@@ghostdukevladamir5101 Wealth privilege can be considered to be largely the same seeing as the poor are more likely to commit crime, less likely to get a good education (particularly in the US) and less likely to find adequate employment (which feeds into crime).
@@ghostdukevladamir5101 have you looked at Coleman Hughes' articles or videos? He's thought provoking about some of the potential stuff you raised
@@Dilmahkana I'll have a look
There are lots of privileges that women could have or people of color could have over men and white people respectively. If you are a woman, you are far less likely to be convicted of a similar crime than a man is, and if you are convicted, you are much more likely to get a noticeably smaller prison sentence, if any. Women are also more likely to go to college and get a degree than men are today. Asian Americans are often more wealthy and better educated than white Americans, yet they are still able to apply for scholarships that only people of color (i.e. non-white people) are allowed to apply to.
Everything is relative, and I am very happy with how you handled this video. Great job explaining the difference and importance of abstract vs concrete arguments.
what about minority privilege? like higher acceptance rates into certain fields, scholarships, the social "right" to attack someones characteristics, the privilege to not be accused of being a bad person for having privilege.
There are many different types of privilege. You are right that minorities may have an advantage in certain narrowly defined areas, but don't lose sight of the larger context, whereby in society as a whole they still have less wealth and political representation than white people.
@@tomtimelord7876 (on average). Also correlation is different to causation, the assumption that being white causes wealth is ignorant, on average white people are born in to intact families in comparison to lets say african-americans, this is caused by the sort of communities black people generally grow up in which in a way encourages seperation, this leads to low income because the mother can not work and provide for her children. If you ignore this fact you don't care about solving the real issues for minorities. If you disagree I would like you to give me a specific, repeatable example of when a white person in the same context (wealth, where they live, qualifications, etc...) as a minority has advantage of doing something or getting into something.
@@rpaleg "the assumption that being white causes wealth is ignorant" - Um, who's making that assumption? No one I know, certainly. This is a bit of a strawman. There are many ways that being black means you have been denied access to wealth, however. The Homestead Act is a good example. All that free land west of the Mississippi went to white people, almost exclusively. It's been estimated that this alone, even though it was over a century ago, is responsible for 30% of the white wealth in the area. Another example would be housing. I'm sure you're familiar with redlining. Also the inequities of the GI Bill.
"If you ignore this fact you don't care about solving the real issues for minorities." - No one is ignoring this fact. But let me ask you, to what do you attribute this fact? Why are there so many broken homes in the black community?
I think one flaw in your thinking is that you are framing privilege as advantages that accrue to a person based on their race. A better way to think about it would be disadvantages that fail to accrue to a person because of their race. White privilege is more the absence of headwinds, rather than the presence of tailwinds. A clear example would be applying for a job. People with ethnic sounding names are less likely to get a call back about a job, even when their qualifications are identical. They've even done studies where they send out identical resumes, but give one resume a name like Brad or Stacy, and the identical resumes names like Lashawnda or Lebron. The resumes with white sounding names get more call backs, even when they are identical resumes!
cos.gatech.edu/facultyres/Diversity_Studies/Bertrand_LakishaJamal.pdf
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Yep
Yeah, there's definitely minority privilege in some contexts. Honestly just about anything can be a privilege when put in the right situations.
The problem here is individual vs societal. From an individual perspective we have varying privileges and can make the most of it to attempt to build a prosperous and happy life. However from a macro point of view, a pattern emerge that show a particular group having historically disadvantaged, We must acknowledge that something must be done to bring that group to an equilibrium.
The question is though, what situations need to be equal? Not everyone needs to be, and in some cases shouldn't, be wealthy.
@@michaeldorsey9231
Hmm. Not everyone should be wealthy. Interesting concept. Can you explain why?
@@juniormynos9457
Because some people don't work as hard as others, or some tasks are more skilled and more deserving of higher pay.
@@michaeldorsey9231
Make sense. So focus should be on equity rather than equality
@@michaeldorsey9231
Cool
A lot of things are also dependable on how the person views their situation. When I was growing up I was bombarded with stories about how amazing the West (Western Europe mainly) is, the opportunities there, the culture and much more. And I believe that and was kinda envious about it. But now, having lived in the West for a year I can see, that despite most of the things being true, my culture gave me enough and even in some aspects way more assets (in term of way of thinking) to enjoy life than a lot of the people I am surrounded by right now.
Wow. You managed this topic really well! I was kind of holding my breath and waiting for the cringe-moment. It never came! Thank you very much for this video!
Haha me too. Props to CA for an excellent video on such a conflated topic.
18:01 Was pretty cringeworthy ngl
I love how logical you are. I’ve watch a few videos and just subscribed. You don’t care about your own personal emotions but rather about EVERYONES individual experiences and emotions. You cover both sides of an argument logically and seem to say exactly what I tell people in arguments...just that it is better organized and sounds better. I can appreciate this so much because I agree with you and it’s nice to hear the truth rather than this crap I hear on the news or politics. Everyone has got it wrong most of the time.
I might be the only one here, but I've always wondered why 'straight' is the privilege when it comes to sexuality, in discussion like these? Being bisexual is clearly superior. You have twice the potential market and the stigma, if present at all, is also mostly avoidable.
Because the "default" in society is being straight, and being gay or bisexual is frowned upon by many people still. Yeah, the stigma might be "avoidable", but only if one hides the fact that they're bisexual which is in itself a problem that comes from prejudice. Hell, I'd argue that people that are openly bisexual are even more stigmatized than homosexuals, because straight bigots will treat them either as plain gay or "in a phase", and many homosexuals will treat them as "undediced" or as "afraid of assuming their homosexuality". They get punched from both sides.
So yeah, they have more options in the, uh, "market", but there's also more bigotry against them I'd argue.
true but if you are bi sexual you will get slack from family, friends, religious groups, and flat out hate groups. if you are straight, you won’t.
There’s probably less stigma than if you’re just gay, but it’s definitely still there. It depends on where you live, as well. In most of the south, it’s still heavily frowned upon.
Unfortunately, being attracted to the same sex, whether bi or full on gay, a lot of people are still gonna give you hate for it. A lot of the world is still homophobic. Go to russia and tell people you like to have sex with men as well as women, and chances are you'll have stuff thrown at you in the streets, or a police officer brings up the most stretched out excuse to detain you.
Also, even where it's commonly accepted, there's still the frustrating feeling of being the outlier in any given room. When you don't want to make a big fuss about your sexual orientation, some well-meaning but annoying straight people will say "so, who's the giver and who's the taker/ who's the man and who's the woman huehuehue" which are jokes that straight people don't have to deal with.
I always kind of thought being asexual was the most privileged. Way less complicated if you don't have to think about it at all.
Anyone bringing up privilege doesn't care about logic, they're just mad someone has a better life than them.
no, they bring it up so say that we should help others who are less fortunate
No, they are mad that they THINK someone has a better live than them. And even then, money and health and many of these things are not even necessarily the main factors to hapiness.
@@musicfriendly12 that is such a cynical way of viewing people who protect for equality
I am 6'1 male, and I argue that true privilege is being between 5'9 and 5'11 for a man. The majority of machinery is designed for men of average height. Average height is not the mode for height in mathematical terms. Most men are not the average height for a man. If you are the average height for a man then you get all the benefits of being short, such as not bumping your head on things all the time, not intimidating people by accident, and amazonian women looking for short guys might still be into you. On the flip side, the number of women shorter than that average height is vast,(so it doesn't harm your dating chances) your still tall enough to reach most high objects, and your still big enough to intentionally intimidate people. Average height privilege is stronger than tall or short privelage. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
I love this channel because it seems to be one of the only “”true”” unpartisan or Centrist sources on hot topics. Other channels and sources almost always feel like someone leaning one way or the other calling their position the “center” to try and make themselves seem more correct
THIS should be taught at school, this is prime content, this is why I subscribed
Some of the “privileges” are people just being jealous of what others got without looking at their hard work to get to that place.
Yes but the problem comes with the next generation. Let's say you worked harder than an other guy with same "privileges" and are now wealthier. Now you both have kids. If you look at them purly as people and not your kids, one is clearly more privileged than the other. With education and inteligence it's the same. If you have educated and intelligent parents, you will have less trouble in school and due to better education will earn more. Everybody clearly has certain disadvantages and advantages but it's important to recognise both and not generalise too much.
*Standing ovation* Thank you CA, this has been an amazing take on a very complicated subject
I agree with everything in this video, though I would also add that "privilege" also has to do with perspective as well. Those with traits that belong in the minority will in most cases garner more sympathy, appreciation, and even have specialized efforts dedicated to them. This could be argued as "minority privilege" or something along those lines.
And minority privilege is actually causal, while being white is merely correlated with some of the other privileges listed, and therefore counted as its own privilege.
Shout out to all the manlets out there. We gotta stay strong.
18:09 - Did you know that the color of a car has actually affected insurance premiums?
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@@IdiotBoxProductionsTV I haven't checked it recently, but I had a maroon car one time and the insurance company said, "Is it red, or is it maroon?"... I was like, "What difference does it make?" They said, "Red cars are statistically more likely to be in an accident, so the premiums are higher". I have police friends that say they are more likely to get a ticket too...
Congo Kael how interesting
@@congokael8087 i saw a video on that
Yup, I used to hear all the time that red cars have higher insurance, then people said it was a myth. When I started dealing cars I found out it was true. Police have said to me, the red color receives more focus and sticks out more in the crowd. But that was also before the other wild colors which stick out just as much.
man getting bullied in highschool for being christian was a privilege
The moralizing that too often follows these discussions makes them harmful. The mislabeling of advantage as privilege is also harmful. Privileges are granted. Advantages are inherent. It's a privilege to play in the NBA; it's an advantage to be tall in the NBA. It's a privilege to go to college; it's an advantage to be smart in college. It's a privilege to earn a living as a model; it's an advantage to be beautiful to work in that industry.
Condemning a person for their immutable traits such as height, intelligence, beauty, or race is immoral. These traits often result in advantage. It just is.
When I taught English in Japan, I was at a disadvantage because of my poor Japanese skills. Those who were fluent in English and Japanese had an advantage over me. Those who grew up in Japan had a deeper understanding of Japanese culture than I. Those were advantages not privileges. It just was.
As a minority in Japan, I had a tougher time. My employment options were more limited. My cultural understanding was limited. My useful skills were limited. It just was.
Members of a majority culture have an easier time within the culture. That's simply an advantage. Members of a minority culture must adapt to the majority culture to be successful in the majority culture.
It would have been absurd for me to have demanded that Japanese culture adapt to my American culture. As the minority, it was up to me to adapt my behavior, thought, forms of communication, and attitudes to the culture I was in.
Should the Japanese have felt guilt for their being Japanese while I was not? Should they have felt guilt for having advantages over me? Ridiculous. Should white people feel guilt for being members of a majority culture, of having the advantage of not having to adapt to a second culture? Equally ridiculous.
White people should call out racism and actively fight against it, but whites should never feel ashamed of their immutable traits or advantages. They just are.
Saying whites are privileged is the very definition of racism.
Go Sensei!
I agree that the problem is not the theory itself (can it be called a theory? It doesn't make predictions, just states the obvious).
But 99% of the time people that use this theory begin to _blame_ you for having your privileges. They try to make you feel guilty, as if you _stole_ them and now must pay for that. That's what irks me about this whole thing.
Darth Biomech and they assume you have all the priviledges that you are more likely to have. You are white? then you ARE more priviledges than the black woman over there even though you are homeless and she is a super rich member of the 1%.
As long as privilege is misused as a psychological and ideological warfare tool, it will never be taken seriously.
ErgoProxy12345 lol you are misinformed. Educate yourself on American history.
David Adesegun what do you mean? that there has never been rich black people in american history? how about you learn a thing or two like that there are other countries or that the first person to buy a black slave in america was a black man.
@@godofnothing428 History does not equal today, discrimination based on race is actually illegal today.
"Intelligent, but ugly. Physically healthy, but mentally unhealthy. Male, but short."
I feel personally attacked.
@split haven bro maybe he is like 5'4, maybe its over, who knows.
If there's one thing I always like about your videos, its that you always ALWAYS leave the sources. You're a one of a kind good sir
Great video, man. I can see that you're really putting effort into focusing on the argument, and not the people.
Best video ever made on this subject, and I say that as someone who has often had objections to your content.
3:00 I feel like more than 1/3 of those privledges depending on a person and situation can as well be a curse to the individual.
Yea this sort of stuff is super individual. It doesn't really help that most people use this theory in a super general and ,as CA pointed out himself, 'fuzzy and uninformative' way
I love “Everything you know is wrong” playing in the back at around 17:00
Another point was missed . . .
As a tall man, I enjoy a massive amount of privilege.
If I recall correctly, at 6'5", I am in the top 3 percentile of humans.
The advantages of being tall far outweigh the disadvantages of being tall.
Sure, I can't drive many common cars, and I am usually more uncomfortable on flights.
However, I would NOT trade places with a short man (with all other things being equal).
(I wouldn't trade places with any similar woman either.)
I'll keep my height with all of it's supposed disadvantages.
(I will admit that I'm glad I'm not taller. I think being 7'4" would not be pleasant overall.).
What are the privileges? I'm 6'2" and find the "reaching higher" privilege less common than the "ducking under tree branches and basement ceiling rafters" disadvantage.
@@robinthrush9672 dude you, should socialize more
Same dude in Germany 99,926% of Men are shorter than me lol
Good point. You can simplify and even even quantify the discussion by considering it a game where you consider if you would trade off your privileges. Doesn’t work with everything, though. I mean, who would swap sexes?
@@albertbatfinder5240 I'm sure plenty of people on the Trans side of things would love to swap sexes
I'm really happy with this video.
I love that it ended up essentially with Intersectionality,
This is the best explaination of privilege I've ever heard, it's unbiased, states the necessary data and there isn't a hidden agenda saying it does exisit or doesn't exisit. I love it! Well done!
All this talk of privilege and no one dares to mention the most oppressed group: gamers. disgusting
Gamers rise up
@@nonoun9619 why would I rise up? I'm in my gaming chair?
@@Dave_The_Musical_Fisherman And it's comfy.
@@Leviathan9173 and I can already just go into whole other worlds, enjoy them for what they are, come out of them, then go into another one... it's a Life of constant Isekai :P
Non-gamer privilege overrides any disadvantages
Shouldn't it be called the hypothesis of privilege?
From Wikipedia:
“A philosophical theory or philosophical position is a set of beliefs that explains or accounts for a general philosophy or specific branch of philosophy.”
A happy family will often (but not always) be an intact family, but certainly not all intact families are happy, and I think it's the happy part that is the privilege, not the intact family.
Right, hence evaluating people as individuals, even while looking at statistics.
Statistically, black people make less money than asians. But lots of black people make more money than lots of Asians. Both things can be true. The problem of racism is not the statistics, but rather when people apply the statistical generality TO the individual.
This is exactly what the far Left is doing with this idea of privilege and identity politics.
When I was in college we were discussing race and white privilege and I remember getting VERY upset. I actually tried to bring up a lot of the points made in this video, but Counter Arguments did it more eloquently than I did.
Well part of the problem is you got upset lol. Try to be calm and make your point
@@markdouglas1601 You were not there You also don't know me.
@@justarandomgal2683 ok? You said you were upset..I didn't extrapolate from that or make any assumptions. Its hard to make an argument when you have to use mental energy on calming down
@@markdouglas1601 Again, you were not there and you were not in my head during that time. You don't know the entire situation.
@@markdouglas1601 It is easy to say don't get upset. Do you think she made the decision to get upset? I think it's more likely that she just couldn't help it. Asking an emotional person to stay calm is similar to asking a tall person to stay low. My emotions get in my way of explaining myself as well. There is no clear-cut solution for avoiding getting upset without causing new mental issues.
This is a terrific video. Thank you for putting so much effort into your video and treating it as fairly and neutrally as you did.
Can you please do a video on abortion showing both sides of the argument and offering counter arguments 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Velvet Thunder I honestly don’t think there is a way to civilly discuss this issue
lee Roberts well yeah they should always override the rights of the fetus
Saying "both sides" suggests that there are only two positions. However, the issue is not as black-and-white as pro-choice vs anti-abortion. One can be okay with abortion as long that the pregnancy is less than a certain number of month or before a certain developmental cycle. Another person may be against abortion but allow for exceptions such as in the case of rape or incest. If a person wants to abort, would she be legally required to seek counseling first? Should the cost of abortion be covered by healthcare?
louisng114 dude your either pro choice or your against abortion being ok with abortion under certain circumstances is not being pro choice or helpful to the argument so if that’s your position just call yourself pro life and save the rest of us five minutes of explanation
I see that you are anti-punctuation.
Being wealthy, should also have a three. Since it can change during ones life.
Yeah, I grew up poor as shit (Which affected my education, upbringing and healthcare) and now I'm middle class.
Can, but generally does not.
I knew I wasn't crazy for thinking that just simply being white or male wasn't enough to judge someone on how privileged they are
Real privilege: Being born in a stable country in a stable economy.
I'm not even going to argue with people on this subject, I'm just going to link them this video.
Most won't watch, unfortunately.
My family was poor for most of my life, but my dad went back to college (now he’s working on a masters degree) and now we are living comfortably. He had to earn this status and now my whole family benefits from it. I was born white and cisgendered, but I’m also mentally unhealthy and asexual. But you never know. I used to be poor and unhealthy physically, but now my family has money and I’ve lost weight. There are some things you can’t control, but you can change a lot of it
Hey great video! I think it's good to expose what this part of social sciences is actually about, not individuals but trends in societies. But I would disagree with what you say in the end, about the role of this theory. Iwould argue the usefulness of knowing about privileges is:
1. Trying to figure out why this is a privilege and why this specific privilege exists. For some types of privilege is pretty straightfoward like it's pretty clear why being wealthy is an advantage, while there is a bigger discussion on what causes people of color to have disavantages.
2. Once one figures out why a specific privilege exists one can think if it's fair that this privilege exists, and if it's unfair which public policy could be used to mitigate it.
For instance one may discuss first if we should mitigate wealthy privilege, and if so what is the best way to do it?
I absolutely agree. I really enjoyed this video as well but I was hoping it would go more in depth as to why being white is seen as a privilege and how American institutions, systems, and governments are used to support such privilege. Being white obviously isn't seen as a privilege based on biological understandings in the way that height can be. I love that you pointed out that the ability to analyze privilege is really useful! Majority of them are created and supported through systems within our societies and can definitely be challenged and changed once recognized.
As someone genetically very thin. Yes it makes me more attractive and I totally didn’t earn it, but there are downsides. I need to eat a LOT of food to sustain thinking, I have to sleep a lot more than other people and I have high anxiety
i thought the whole black ppl with advantages thing was intersectionality
Intersectionality is more about how disadvantages and privileges stack up, in a nutshell.
I really enjoyed this and you did really well with this. I love the examples you used and explanations for everything.
Culture plays a role in a lot of these “privileges”. A bad culture is one that holds less of the determinable factors listed.
And that explains why some cultures have gained certain privileges by oppressing others.
@@reddogbrew6895 this is objectively not true.
@@reddogbrew6895 what about the war on drugs, specifically manufactured to disenfranchise black youth? Or voting locarions that are designed to make it less convenient for people in majority black neighborhoods to vote? Those arent oppression? Piss outta here with your white supremacist bullshit
@@harrylane4 youre some butthurt loser if you have to bring up white supremacy lmao. no law created affects a group of people differently than the other... if you dont want to go to jail for drugs, dont do drugs. otherwise take the risk. fucking get out of here with your fairytale bullshit. "objectively not true" = "your opinion isnt my opinion, so youre wrong"... lmao gtfo
My might be my favorite video of yours. I regularly see myself coming back to this video. Its so good and explained really well
I wish everyone in the nation would watch this. It's what I've been saying for years. Everyone has varying degrees of privileges that are also conditional to the situation.
There are plenty of disadvantages to all these things. There was a street near my university that no white guy could walk down without getting followed and/or mugged. Black and hispanic folks could go down there without fear. Is that right? No. But it does illustrate that we don't live in a binary world of "the privileged" and "the nots".
Also this self-flagellation over one's race or sex something I refuse to participate in. No, I wont' apologize for being a white male. I will encourage and help you to succeed regardless of your sex and race though.
*won't
GO Justin Z! It's okay to be white!
@@alvallac2171 Hey, it's the only guy who's never mistyped in his entire life.
Can I get your autograph?
This. The issue isn't privilege. The issue is creating a victim hierarchy that is used to scapegoat another group of people.
nobody is saying that you should apologize. literaly no one. when people refer to "white privlege" it isnt meaning to reprimend you, simply be aware that you have it. thats all. all theyre saying is, that people who lack something(like disabled people) should be given more helpl then those who dont- and privlages dont contridict. yif your a wealth disabled person, you should recieve help.
I took a screenshot of the video at 2:53 and made it the wallpaper of the computer used by my co-worker. He did not even notice the change. Invisible indeed.
I just found your channel and I wanted to say that I really enjoy how you present issues in a non partisan way and allow people to make up their own minds about things. The internet needs more people like you.
An enormous portion of the white privelege debate is just about wealth privelege
Yeah, but they conflate being wealthy with being white as if wealthy black people don't exist.
Educate yourself
@@kevinnio if you're black in the US the chances of you being born rich are smaller and the chances of you being born poor are way higher than you're fellow citizen of different skin colour. Black people are less likely to have wealth privelege which is caused by (mostly historic but also current) racism.
@@rubenvandermarel9924 Bull, it's mostly caused by culture.
@@mr.thongsong8473 in what way exactly?
I think being christian should be seen as highly conditional. It depends on where you live and whom you interact whit. The same being true of any creed.
The issue is that christian opinion are represented a lot more in mainstream politics than those of other and/or no religion. Almost all presidents so far have been christian, and there's still a very large christian voting base.
@@Jacob-yg7lz I can agree that it's a advantage in the US. But in Sweden I think most people don't really care what faith you follow for example. ( I know as I am Swedish )
And in Turky the stat don't see you as married unless you where married in a Mosque. So it depends on where you live.
@@erikfallgren4245 All privileges are context sensitive, which is the second major issue I take with the construction CA uses in the video. Privilege is not about the inherent advantages or disadvantages granted by having a trait. It's about the advantages created by society assuming that trait as universal, putting everyone without that trait at disadvantage. Privilege is always context sensitive because it's created by context.
A colorseeing person is not privileged over a colorblind person (to name a specific type, Deuteranopia, lack of green cones) until colorseeing folks things are designed in such a way that colorblind folks are at a disadvantage. In a normal town with three light traffic lights, colorblind folks can navigate intersections just fine because while they can't distinguish green from other colors, they can know that the top light means go. But take out the three light traffic lights and replace them with one light systems (where there's only one bulb which changes color), and suddenly, the colorblind person is at a disadvantage caused by the context of there being traffic lights they can't navigate.
'Christian' privilege should really be read as 'Christian in a majority Christian or Christian controlled country' privilege, but that's a lot more words, and the assumption of this video is that the majority of the audience, being English speakers, come from majority Christian countries: US, Canada, England, Narnia, etc, and by that assumption those lot of words can be condensed to just 'Christian'. Whether the analytics confirm this assumption as fair is another thing.
It's less about being Christian and more about being appart of the majority religion. In the case of the US it's pretty hard to quantify the benefits of being christian becuase of our weird past in dealing with religion (including seperation between church + state) and the whole "melting pot" thing. It's still clear though the majority religion in the US is Christianity and depending on where you live, diverging from that belief system could prove dangerous.
However in other settings like Vatican city, The middle east, ect. The implications are more clear. Imagine being Christian or jewish in an extremist Muslim country. To take it a step further we could apply this to sexuality. Being gay in American *cities* is fairly safe. Though it's far from the majority there are plenty of people to assimilate with. However if you're gay in say, ghana (my parents home country) straight up your life would be in danger.
Christian and white definitely aren't privileges
This is most rational and thoughtful discussion of this highly contentious topic I have seen. Many thanks for posting it.
CA: Male... but short
Me: *cries*
Great video. Awesome writing and script. Your thought are always so well said, clear, concise, cogent, and clear. If you are freestyling it, you must be god 🤣.
Your ability to elucidate and logically progress through a subject to reach its conclusion is amazing.
I do wonder if this comes naturally to you; if you have a background in education on this, or both?
I admire your work!
I love this channel. You definitely deserve more subs
Another word for privledge is a blessing.
One should never feel guilt for their blessings.
Being born into a wealthy family in good health probably makes 90% of someone's privelege. All the others contribute such a small amount.
Privilege is such an overused word now it is annoying. I live in a generally wealthy area with whites, blacks, Asians, etc and everyone is just as "privilaged" as everyone else, yet I still get called "privilaged"🤦♂️
Straight privilege is conditional: if I were attracted to all the gay men who showed interest in me, I wouldn't have been so lonely.
@oxi ah but you'd have to deal with loads of homophobes among other things, so you wouldn't really be gaining anything
@@lilyblossom9307 Depends on where I'd live, so still conditional. In the Netherlands, that's certainly not a problem. Plus, I'd rather be holding hands in public and have some stranger complain than never holding hands at all. Even if I wouldn't, a private relationship is better than no relationship. And even if I found a partner while straight, decent women are way more scarce than genuinely interesting men. So if you live in a liberal society and lack the characteristics women find attractive and/or the luck of finding that one exceptional woman, being gay is more advantageous than being straight. And don't even get me started on bisexuals... One could argue it's a disadvantage when wanting to travel, but nobody forces you to hold a sign saying "I'm gay" anywhere you go. Even in the US, if a baker doesn't like you, the free market will surely give you that cake.
Wow! Counterarguments discovered the
novel concept of intersectionality!
Intersectionality can work in some ways but you run into the problems associated with it as well. Who determines what axes are the most effective to judge upon; how many axes do you factor in; which are important in a society; and how can you legislate in such a way that you disadvantage as few people as possible? The best answer I know of is that you make legislation that protects every individual and guarantees equal opportunity no matter the case, since the individual is the ultimate minority. People generally aren't mad at the idea of intersectionality as a theory, but they become more set against it when the rubber meets the road and the group is ranked more important than the individual.
The biggest gripe I have with this "privilege theory" is that it considers the absence of a disadvantage as an advantage. That's like saying because 0 is higher than -1 and 1 is also higher than -1, 0 is equal to 1. That's just false.
If my arm isn't broken, that's not an advantage. That's a disadvantage that I don't have. Now, if my arm is unbreakable (for the sake of argument) and/or allows me to do more things with it than a regular arm, that's an advantage.
You're arguing semantics, but let's put it this way: someone with a normal arm still has an advantage in basketball over someone with a broken arm. Broken arms may not be the default and may be more defined by a disadvantage than a normal arm would be defined by an advantage, but with the right context, it would still be advantageous. Just like how having a normal arm isn't defined by a disadvantage, but would be disadvantageous if you were having arm wrestling contests with people who have naturally stronger arms than you.
@@Junosensei I agree, but I don't see how that invalidates what I said. Yes, obviously, context matters. How does that make 0 = 1 ?
@@Vampgelus - I'm saying the analogy isn't really proper here. You're talking about why a word isn't the same as another word. I'm saying that both words can apply to the same thing depending on context. To fix your analogy, 0 may be less than 1, but that doesn't mean it can't be more than -1.
For privilege, it means that being able to attend the expected "normal" school everyone else attends may not seem like an advantage to you because it's just so normal and expected, but to someone who lives in a run-down neighborhood that gets no proper funding, you've got a very, very clear advantage over them when applying to a college that looks solely at test scores and general knowledge.
@@Junosensei And again, you completely leave elite schools out of the equation, conflating the 0 with the 1, just because they are both > -1.
-1 = Disadvantage (bad school)
0 = Standard (regular school)
1 = Advantage (elite school)
Went back to this video too because this topic is becoming more relevant again and I agree about the way Privilege is discussed in this video. More people from both sides need to hear this.
Since when being young is a privilege, it's a temporary situation.
It's still a privilege. Your more able bodies and depending on injuries you bounce back better. Society Also places emphasis on youth in general
@@silentj624 well, it's a temporary status, it's not something that stays that way forever, plus do you really think society is youth focused? Maybe were you live.
@@pitmezzari2873 just because it's temporary doesn't mean it isn't a privilege. and yes, american society is definitely obsessed with youth. all the beauty serums and plastic surgery to keep you young? even entertainment. i'm not sure how old you are or what part of america you live in but yet, youth is a privilege and very coveted
@@silentj624 everyone has youth at one point though?