One thing worth noting is that Yoda didn't actually burn the texts. Rey took them before she left and has them on the Millennium Falcon. When he tells Luke "There is nothing in that library that the girl does not already possess" he means it literally.
Unbelievable, this is like the only SW related video on the whole YT right now that isn't full of rabid haters and pointless comment fights. This one of the many reasons I like this channel. Also I loved TLJ very much. A fantastic thing it was, to break the old SW formula and bring in somethig new, something unexpected. I'm not sure however that how's it going to be continued. I think its ending could've been fantastic for the entire saga.
I'm so glad they tried to break the old conventions of how everyone should expect how a star wars movie should be, I'm extremely glad The Last Jedi exists. I, for one, love this movie
I didn't see them taking any big risks apart from using a poor, hastily made script that made little sense and relied on material from previous movies.
The ideas in the film were great. What they needed was a talented script doctor. Ironically, while most fans know Carrie Fisher as Princess Leah, in Hollywood she was well known as one of the best script doctors in the business. If they had let her work on it, her final film could have been far better.
While all of this is certainly valid, I think there's a huge point being missed here: that Luke is the "last" of the *old* Jedi, the Jedi who devoted themselves so totally to the light side that they feared and reviled the dark side rather than accepting it as part of nature. That fear has now twice led to their downfall, and created men like Vader and Kylo who desire to destroy the hypocrisy of the so-called "heroes." What Rey must create, therefore, is a new version of the Jedi, a group that can resist the corruption of the dark side without seeking to destroy it.
Obroa-skai Arguably that would be the true Jedi. The Jedi are supposed to be pacifist in the sense of not initiating hostility. Yet both times that lead to their downfall were the times when they were on the offensive. Maybe Rey can correct that mistake while still making the new Jedi as Luke did in Legends?
i feel like this is a movie that makes more sense the more you think about it and the meanings behind it; there are levels to the story and the characters beyond the surface
are you sure you watched the last Jedi ? it was complete bollocks. a single X-wing taking out a blockage runner which had about a dozen gun towers on it. the rebel fleet being out of range constantly and the first order only sending in 3 tie fighters. the whole plot of Fin and Rose going off to get the code breaker could have been avoided if they was told they was going to abandon the ship in pods. then you had Rose crash her fighter into Fin which should have killed them both. but they survived and had a "I love you" conversation while ATAT gorilla's looked directly at them........ and don't even get me started about why captain Phasma didn't shoot Fin, but decied to fight him with the shock stick. then you have to ask yourself how did Phasma survive starkiller base in the first place. nothing in the movie made sense.
Banks That's a lovely opinion I definitely agree on. But rip the fanboys who spent tons of hours figuring out theories and expecting stuff out of the norm. Their outrage is understandable
That's the thing about the film. A lot of people who complained about it just read the surface of it. There's a deeper meaning to it there more to just skywalker being a powerful bloodline. These new films are meant to represent a new future a new type of jedi. With the balance of the force. And the people complaining spent 2 years creating their own film with their theorists that of course they're gonna be disappointed because it didn't fit what the had predicted. If Rey had been a palpatine, kenobi. Skywalker, there would have still been people who were upset. With Rey being a nobody with the force proves that there is a future for the force in a new generation of jedi.
Well no, the problem is that you're not supposed to neglect the "surface" storytelling for some deeper meaning. You're supposed to have them both work in tandem if possible. That's what this absolutely sucked at. It just contrived plot points and character motivations purely for the sake of fitting the intended messages. It feels like propaganda rather than fiction.
Even though the Last Jedi had many faults, I think the good outweighed the bad. It was a good and entertaining film, and it will eventually grow into a classic film over the next decades. I just hope JJ uses episode 9 to conclude the trilogy in a satisfying, yet meaningful way that feels like it has a lot of weight. On the other hand, one of my biggest complaints for the last Jedi is how they handled the death of Admiral Ahkbar. For me at least, I would have found the scene where that purpled hair lady drove into the star destroyer much more impactful and emotional if it was Admiral Ahkbar instead, but oh well, never mind.
I kinda disagree unless you reframe the narrative around Admiral Akbar more because otherwise that comes out of left field and is just fan service instead of providing redemption to Holdo for the leadership mistakes she had made. This was her final act, and she redeemed her mistakes because of it. I think it would’ve been dumb if you just swap Akbar in; it works much better as is
Lion of Judah I think it would be a lot better if Holdo wasn’t introduced at all, and the all the scenes with her in should have been with Ahkbar instead.
@@gtafilms1197 There's BUT During wars many civils, soldiers die, people we don't know or even remember. The Ahkbar's death is to show wars are really brutal. For you Ahkbar is really important but for universe in which Ahkbar works he's just soldier.
Incredible movie. Most of the hate is coming from people who are too rigid and stuck in their own structure of what a Star wars movie "should" be. Johnson took incredible risks and I for one appreciate that WAY more than the retread that was TFA. People feel Luke would never act that way....yet wholeheartedly give Yoda and Obiwan a pass for going into hiding for almost 20 years and leaving the destiny of the entire galaxy to hang on the fate of two newborns.
Uhm, Yoda and Obi Wan went to fight Palpatine and Vader in ROTS??? The galaxy would be fucked if Obi Wan and Yoda didn't live in exile to teach Luke about the ways of the Jedi. Mind you, this isn't a critique of Luke's characterization in TLJ, just saying.
because he could say that he hated upfront and continues to do that. Let's be honest , Disney could hire another elderly actor to portray an Old Luke Skywalker , in the same way that he had two actor to portray Obi-Wan Kenobi , but they didn't. Why you asked? because after sometime , Mark Hamill started to like what was showed in the movies.
The hate on this movie and the revelation of Rey's parents were due to all of the wild fan theories and speculation. Some fans practically made their own movie and when the actual film went the other direction, those people felt disappointment and got angry that the movie didn't follow their theories.
Deep metaphor: Kylo represents the directors conflict on whether to do something old or play it safe in the past, while his anger and desire to destroy everything represents their reaction to the fans demanding they stay in the past.
A brilliant video, you guys did it again! I could not have said it better. TLJ was a really great movie with quite a few themes, but this one is surely the strongest.
Was waiting for this video! I don't understand why more people aren't liking this movie! Just because it's different than other films of the franchise doesn't mean that it's bad! The movie is about so much more, about learning from our mistakes. That's why people kept making wrong decisions. And Luke's death was perfectly handled, it was beautiful!
Yoda didn’t destroy the texts. He made Luke think he did, he knew Rey took them. We see them in the Falcon at the end of the movie. Also, Kylo isn’t lying to her about her parents. They see into each other’s minds, and he finds out that way. That’s why he tries to make her admit it, because he know that she knows and accepting that her parents sold her off is something she needed to do.
I know right?! So co fused why so many people hate this film because it actually deepens the meaning of what a Jedi is, how the Force works, how characters learn through failure, how characters fall because of pride, and how characters learn to foster hope over destroying hate.
Dude not only is this video awesome, these comments are genius. I’m new to the SW world and I looooooooove it. Everyone uses so much intellect when they examine the film
The way I understood it is that Luke was actually the last Jedi, if by Jedi you mean that tradition of force sensitive people with a specific role and training. While instead the Force belongs to all and should not be about learning a specific philosophy. So I agree with the interpretation that the movie rejects the past elitism, rigidity and political charge of the Jedi order: it's time for a new era for the Force.
I would say that Luke for a time was the "last jedi" because he was the only one left and after feeling that the Jedi had done as much harm as good over time, felt it was best for the order to end. He was right in a way; the fact was that people had come to almost deify the jedi, to see them as saviours when in fact they were all flawed people who made plenty of mistakes. For instance he's correct that 10,000 jedi were unable to prevent Sidious's rise and the creation of the Empire. Its possible that this happened because of their rigid philosophy and the fact that they took up positions of leadership in the military (and arguably influenced the government). People came to see the jedi as the only ones who had ownership of the force, which as you say is wrong (and counter to their philosophy). Yoda basically says yes of course the Jedi screwed up in the past, but that doesn't mean everything they stood for was wrong. His argument; which Luke then excepts is that the Jedi (and indeed Luke) need to change and learn from their mistakes, but retain the fundamentals of the order. Key to this is the ability of the Jedi to inspire hope, which Luke duly does for the entire galaxy by facing down an army by himself. By that time Luke was clear that he was not and would never be the last jedi, so the title became ironic. The order is likely to change in its role and future structures, but will continue. By taking his final act Luke became an even greater legend and a symbol of hope. The kids talking about him at the end was included to illustrate this, rejuvenating the order's future prospects.
Just want to take a moment to say thank you for this video. I've seen too many videos of butthurt people picking apart the movie second by second and finding fault in everything. Nice for someone to show why this movie was amazing and the deeper meaning in the narrative.
One question I want answered in the new films, the elephant in the room Everytime Kylo is on screen, is hasn't anybody told him VADER KILLED THE EMPEROR AND GOT REDEEMED AND ADMITTED HE'D BEEN A HORSE'S ASS? It seems either Kylo doesn't know or happily ignores the final chapter of Granddaddy's life.
This reminds me of Yoda's arc in Clone Wars Season 6. The Force priestess said something about knowing yourself and learn to let go, don't deny the Dark Side but embrace it as a part of the Force, etc...Luke's flaw was that he saw Dark Side as an enemy(the old Jedi way that we familiar with) rather than embracing it, which led to him nearly killed Ben & led to this sequel trilogy.
A lot of the people who hate this movie seem to do so because they think it's throwing away, ignoring and rejecting the past that made the series special. True, they are moving forward, but they're not seeing the point of the message and are getting stuck on the negative "let the past die" motto without realizing that this conclusion is ultimately actually rejected by the film.
My feelings on the movie continue to evolve. Right after viewing I like it, then thought about it and kinda hated it, then thought some more and kinda liked it, then thought some more and kinda didn't, now I'm just kinda middle of the road. Half good half bad movie.
Yes, a Jedi doesn't need to be born from a certain family. But before "Last Jedi", it was understood that someone needed to learn how to use the Force. Obi-Wan told Luke; "You must learn the ways of the Force". But with the kid using the Force pull on the broom, he had no training. Rey doesn't need special parents. But it would help if she had been trained in some way before "Force Awakens" to be consistent with the other SW films; where to use the Force requires training.
Force sensitive kids are able to display abilities with the force before they are trained, (presumably that was how the Jedi identified them in the first place). In the films, Anakin was able to see the future when he was a child, Luke could use telekinesis before he met Yoda. The training allows them to hone and develop their abilities, it doesn't grant them. In regards to Rey she actually displays very few force abilities prior to meeting with Luke. She has a force vision at the Cantina, uses a mind trick and uses telekinesis on one occasion. Other than the mind trick these acts were instinctive and were similar to what we have seen other untrained jedi do in all the films (Luke guiding in a million to one shot in ANH, seeing Obi Wan's ghost and pulling his light saber out of the ice on Hoth are at least as impressive, and he was untrained at that point). You could make a point of the mind trick being used as this is clearly a more subtle power, however it is worth remembering that 1) It doesn't work at first, 2) that was TFA not TLJ so it was Abram's fault, and 3) In that film she had just witnessed Kylo Ren use the force to attempt to influence her mind for an extended period.
David Jones; I'm only looking at the live action SW films, telekinesis & training; in ANH Obi-Wan says; "You must learn the ways of the Force". In ANH Luke had some training with Obi-Wan. After that, he had telekinesis. Training is a central idea in the OT/ PT. Rey is told in TFA & TLJ, "You need a teacher". I've discussed this many times on the web. An untrained kid in live action SW shouldn't have telekinesis. In the live action franchise it's a skill that's learned.
I love how the broom handle looks like a light saber. The visual also dismantles the specialness of the light saber. Obviously the orthodox fanboys will be angry if the dismantle the uniqueness or high ground of what is great about star wars. hence the film makers have been very brave in their choices.
I felt silly coming out of the movie. In the elevator with my husband, I said "did you see the kid and the broom, was that supposed to be obvious or--" and he said "oh of COURSE it was" and I felt a little dumb for not realizing that. I'm glad it wasn't as subtle as I assumed it was, actually.
@TheStgmp44 I agree with you mate! This "message" thing feels very forced. Aside to that, a movie can't be "evaluated" strictly by its supposely given message. If we approach cinema by this only "attribute", art form becomes lame then.
This video is helping me appreciate this film more. Now that I've watched this, I love the message Rian Johnson is trying to get across, but I still have some reservations about the plot points he used to convey that message.
Kylo, Rey, and Luke were the best part of the movie. How the movie treaded new ground with them makes me excited for the future. But JJ being attached to the next one shatters that anticipation
*SPOILER* The Yoda scene made my day, I wasn't expecting to see him in TLJ. And his "lesson" to Luke was amazing. Btw, I think that Ryan Johnson saved SW, now JJ Abrams can't do a 'Return of the Jedi' ripoff XD.
This movie is much deeper and layered than I originally realized after first watching the movie just because everything that happened within it was such a rush of info. But when I let it sink in and saw the themes and character arcs presented in the movie, it let me truly appreciate what Rian Johnson has done for the Star Wars franchise.
A theory going around is that Rey fears being alone (holding on to the idea of her parents were special, and there was good reason for abandonment).. and that the dark cave showed her she is truly alone..which could be either a realization of this fear, meant harm her spirit. But it also could also be seen as a comfort, seeing herself never being alone within herself. That she is her own, not defined by her parents. But more than she thinks she is. Which is a bit unlike what Luke saw when he sees his face as Darth Vader. Putting a question on this whole.."dark cave" intentions.
That cave scene was brilliant, what is in a dark side cave? only what you bring into it. Once you realize this you learn so much more about who and what Rey is, of course only in hindsight :)
You missed the same detailed as so many others. Yoda did not burn anything, Rey already had took the books with her, we see them again in the falcon, that is why yoda said to Luke that everything in the library was with Rey
Wow, this is the first TLJ video not bombarded with dislikes and comments saying "Disney ruined Star Wars and they paid critics to give positive reviews."
With all the hate of this film and celebration that the Jedi Order is going to go away, this intelligent repudiation that the wisdom and ideals of the Jedi will never die is something I needed to hear.
THIS. THIS ENTIRE VIDEO. EXTREME HATERS NEED TO WATCH THIS ENTIRE VIDEO. Is TLJ flawless? God no. Does it have problems? Yes, and big ones. But the dynamic between Rey, Ben and Luke is not one of them.
Lion of Judah I guess it's a matter of perspective, especially with these movies. Personally, one of my biggest gripes with the new trilogy is the gross mishandling of Capt. Phasma. It's like they created a female character to stir up the sausage fest of the Dark Side, but didn't know what to do with her, so they just wedge her in somewhere to say she exists in Finn's storyline and that's it, which in my opinion is worse than if they never created her in the first place cause all they left behind was a pile of wasted potential. As for the Canto Bight sequence, while I understand what they were going for thematically and with the story, plot wise it was rather pointless. Now, normally this wouldn't bother me as much since it did serve a thematic point, but add in the fact that it looks so un-Star Wars that it's like we entered a different movie altogether, and my gripe rises quite a bit. I know one of the 2 main themes was "from the lessons of the old we create something new", but I didn't feel that balance in Canto Bight. Those are my two main problems with the movie. There are others, but like you said, they're more like nitpicks.
I don't mind what they did, but how they did it. For example, why not kill off both Luke & Leia instead of just Luke? Or maybe keep Luke on & kill off Leia? Carrie Fisher (RIP) is dead, so no one can act out the character. 😢 Secondly, why did they introduce a romantic relationship with Finn & Rose? Rose is a good addition to the cast, but I don't think Finn is developed enough yet. & I was personally waiting for the Rey x Finn reunion!! 💔
I can't say I disagree with you. It seems to me they kept Leia around so they could play with her relationship with Kylo in Episode IX, and of course they didn't know she would die. I also didn't really buy the whole Finn and Rose thing, and I don't thing Finn did either. His face when she kisses him is like "What the hell have you done?" I don't know, I hope they don't try and progress.
True, Kylo seems to have more resentment for his father than he does for his mother. (As seen when he's unable to shoot at Leia, whereas he killed Han even though he hesitated). The whole Rose kissing Finn was so forced it was painful to watch.😓 Finn didn't even know she was gonna kiss him cause A) he was too focus on his surroundings & B) he was in shock. Throughout the movie, Rey x Finn's relationship was strongly hinted. (Finn's first question when he woke up was 'Where's Rey?' & Chewie asked Rey what to say to Finn if he saw him first.) Heck, in TFA she kissed him in his forehead before leaving to meet Luke!! She could of squeezed his hand or something 😒 Why, writers? Why? 😢
4:50 - Yoda doesn't burn the Jedi text books, that was metaphorical. Rey took them, as you'll notice they're in the drawer on the Falcon that Finn takes a blanket out of for Rose at the end of the film.
that was the best 8:46 of my life =D so glad to have finley seen it yesterday and i most agree/get all you say in this vid =D and the force is strong with this one =)
THANK YOU! This is a perfect analyze of the movie! I loved that movie and its themes, how it changes the dynamic of the saga. I ope more people will see it.
It was amazing! People are reacting like they initially did with Empire. Very interesting. We will resist. You may be the last Jedi...and make a difference
‘Be not afraid of greatness. Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and others have greatness thrust upon them.’ -William Shakespeare, Twelfth Night
The Last Jedi's title reminded me of the departing words of Obi-Wan's Force ghost in the Legends continuity. He told Luke that he was not the last of the Jedi, but the first of the new. So I guess this message's target is now Rey?
Beautiful video! I don't fully agree, though... Mainly because the original saga had already given a beautiful message of everlasting hope. Even when the absolute evil that is the Emperor wins, even when the chosen one himself is corrupted, there is always hope. What's there to add to that? Plus, it was also about the theme of family and "dynasty", and of the relatively low importance that they must have in defining an individual. Luke didn't defeat the Emperor because he was Vader's son, but DESPITE being Vader's son. His highly Force-sensitive blood didn't give him the strength to resist the Dark Side. His good heart did. His friends, his adoptive family, his mentors. The experiences he made as an individual, mostly when he still thought that his father was dead. So... the message already was that you must define yourself by showing courage and doing what's right, and not by where you come from.
I love the ideas in Last Jedi. I just wish they had done it well. I would like to see Mark Hamil in a Star Wars Stort film showing Luke's journey from Return of the Jedi to exile. With the digital technology (especially several years of advancement over Rogue One) they could show him age from his young self to his current age as well. And using the original actor with, obviously, the same bone structure would probably make it work better.
the fun thing is, the title "The last Jedi" uses the plural article for Jedi in my language. So no one ever thought about it possibly only being one person here
Rey is genetically engineered. Her parents really are "nobodies". She sees no one in the cave because there is no one to see, while Kylo pushes her into believing that her parents were "nobody important". Rey was engineered with a mix of Skywalker blood, she is more of a sister to Luke and Leia. Both Luke and Leia know and sense that, but both believe their blood to be more of a curse than a blessing, given what happened to Ben and how Ben became a prize for dark Force user to turn to the dark side.
Great video. Here's a thought: personally, I believe Star Wars should not only discuss the idea that the Force must remain in balance, that light and dark must be equally strong in the universe, but that there may be light found in darkness, and darkness in light. For example, the Jedi, the light, always maintain that sacrifices must be made for the common good - how far can this go? Or, an example we already know, Anakin turning to the dark side for Padme. One might argue that it was for a selfish desire to not let go of her, but it could also be taken as a selfless act driven by love. What are other's thoughts? Should this be raised in Star Wars?
I don't understand this idea that The Last Jedi brings the idea that anyone can become a Jedi, not just those who are part of certain bloodlines. It's always been the case. Who are Yoda, Obi-Wan or Mace Windu's families? No one special!
I think that the biggest problem with the Sequel Trilogy is that it was not meant to exist, as Episode 6 closes the saga very well (no more Sith, the Rebels win and most importantly the Skywalkers bringing balace to the force fullfiling their destiny).
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Holding onto rage? Kylo must be a fanboy. Anyway, marry me Susannah.
I always appreciate your analyses.
One thing worth noting is that Yoda didn't actually burn the texts. Rey took them before she left and has them on the Millennium Falcon. When he tells Luke "There is nothing in that library that the girl does not already possess" he means it literally.
You can argue that she has the original, pure core of the Jedi, rather than what it became.
Nice catch sir!
“There is always a new hope”
This line hit me.
Unbelievable, this is like the only SW related video on the whole YT right now that isn't full of rabid haters and pointless comment fights. This one of the many reasons I like this channel. Also I loved TLJ very much. A fantastic thing it was, to break the old SW formula and bring in somethig new, something unexpected. I'm not sure however that how's it going to be continued. I think its ending could've been fantastic for the entire saga.
I'm so glad they tried to break the old conventions of how everyone should expect how a star wars movie should be, I'm extremely glad The Last Jedi exists. I, for one, love this movie
I didn't see them taking any big risks apart from using a poor, hastily made script that made little sense and relied on material from previous movies.
mark ndlovu Thats your opinion. Not his. Film is subjective
The ideas in the film were great. What they needed was a talented script doctor. Ironically, while most fans know Carrie Fisher as Princess Leah, in Hollywood she was well known as one of the best script doctors in the business. If they had let her work on it, her final film could have been far better.
Sam Well she did change many things in the script for TLJ. For ex. the "I changed my hair" line was all her.
You are in the minority
While all of this is certainly valid, I think there's a huge point being missed here: that Luke is the "last" of the *old* Jedi, the Jedi who devoted themselves so totally to the light side that they feared and reviled the dark side rather than accepting it as part of nature. That fear has now twice led to their downfall, and created men like Vader and Kylo who desire to destroy the hypocrisy of the so-called "heroes." What Rey must create, therefore, is a new version of the Jedi, a group that can resist the corruption of the dark side without seeking to destroy it.
^^^
this guy gets the significance of the title
hey! someone else who came to the same conclusion! :)
THIS!!
Obroa-skai Arguably that would be the true Jedi. The Jedi are supposed to be pacifist in the sense of not initiating hostility. Yet both times that lead to their downfall were the times when they were on the offensive. Maybe Rey can correct that mistake while still making the new Jedi as Luke did in Legends?
THE GRAY SIDE
i feel like this is a movie that makes more sense the more you think about it and the meanings behind it; there are levels to the story and the characters beyond the surface
It's just a shame that the execution was so terrible.
i dont think the execution was terrible, but there were some moments that could have been handled better, if im being honest
are you sure you watched the last Jedi ? it was complete bollocks. a single X-wing taking out a blockage runner which had about a dozen gun towers on it. the rebel fleet being out of range constantly and the first order only sending in 3 tie fighters. the whole plot of Fin and Rose going off to get the code breaker could have been avoided if they was told they was going to abandon the ship in pods. then you had Rose crash her fighter into Fin which should have killed them both. but they survived and had a "I love you" conversation while ATAT gorilla's looked directly at them........ and don't even get me started about why captain Phasma didn't shoot Fin, but decied to fight him with the shock stick. then you have to ask yourself how did Phasma survive starkiller base in the first place. nothing in the movie made sense.
Banks That's a lovely opinion I definitely agree on. But rip the fanboys who spent tons of hours figuring out theories and expecting stuff out of the norm. Their outrage is understandable
eee.. ok , maybe but you should see it in the film not in optimistic overanalysed video.
That's the thing about the film. A lot of people who complained about it just read the surface of it. There's a deeper meaning to it there more to just skywalker being a powerful bloodline. These new films are meant to represent a new future a new type of jedi. With the balance of the force.
And the people complaining spent 2 years creating their own film with their theorists that of course they're gonna be disappointed because it didn't fit what the had predicted. If Rey had been a palpatine, kenobi. Skywalker, there would have still been people who were upset. With Rey being a nobody with the force proves that there is a future for the force in a new generation of jedi.
tromboner2012 Well said. The outrage over this film has been blown way out of proportion.
El John thank you and it has which is insane
Well no, the problem is that you're not supposed to neglect the "surface" storytelling for some deeper meaning.
You're supposed to have them both work in tandem if possible.
That's what this absolutely sucked at. It just contrived plot points and character motivations purely for the sake of fitting the intended messages. It feels like propaganda rather than fiction.
"If Rey had been a Palpataine..." About that....
Even though the Last Jedi had many faults, I think the good outweighed the bad. It was a good and entertaining film, and it will eventually grow into a classic film over the next decades. I just hope JJ uses episode 9 to conclude the trilogy in a satisfying, yet meaningful way that feels like it has a lot of weight. On the other hand, one of my biggest complaints for the last Jedi is how they handled the death of Admiral Ahkbar. For me at least, I would have found the scene where that purpled hair lady drove into the star destroyer much more impactful and emotional if it was Admiral Ahkbar instead, but oh well, never mind.
I kinda disagree unless you reframe the narrative around Admiral Akbar more because otherwise that comes out of left field and is just fan service instead of providing redemption to Holdo for the leadership mistakes she had made. This was her final act, and she redeemed her mistakes because of it. I think it would’ve been dumb if you just swap Akbar in; it works much better as is
Lion of Judah I think it would be a lot better if Holdo wasn’t introduced at all, and the all the scenes with her in should have been with Ahkbar instead.
@@gtafilms1197 There's BUT
During wars many civils, soldiers die, people we don't know or even remember.
The Ahkbar's death is to show wars are really brutal. For you Ahkbar is really important but for universe in which Ahkbar works he's just soldier.
damm, you guys have really been on point these last few weeks, keep up the great work
Incredible movie. Most of the hate is coming from people who are too rigid and stuck in their own structure of what a Star wars movie "should" be.
Johnson took incredible risks and I for one appreciate that WAY more than the retread that was TFA.
People feel Luke would never act that way....yet wholeheartedly give Yoda and Obiwan a pass for going into hiding for almost 20 years and leaving the destiny of the entire galaxy to hang on the fate of two newborns.
Uhm, Yoda and Obi Wan went to fight Palpatine and Vader in ROTS???
The galaxy would be fucked if Obi Wan and Yoda didn't live in exile to teach Luke about the ways of the Jedi.
Mind you, this isn't a critique of Luke's characterization in TLJ, just saying.
"People feel Luke would never act that way".
No, Mark Hamill said "he's not my Luke." Google it.
He said he argued AT FIRST. He's fully embraced the vision and Rian Johnson, by his tweets.
What choice does he have besides embracing it?
because he could say that he hated upfront and continues to do that.
Let's be honest , Disney could hire another elderly actor to portray an Old Luke Skywalker , in the same way that he had two actor to portray Obi-Wan Kenobi , but they didn't.
Why you asked? because after sometime , Mark Hamill started to like what was showed in the movies.
The hate on this movie and the revelation of Rey's parents were due to all of the wild fan theories and speculation. Some fans practically made their own movie and when the actual film went the other direction, those people felt disappointment and got angry that the movie didn't follow their theories.
Except even the sequel did a 180
this makes the movie a lot clearer, thanks
Deep metaphor: Kylo represents the directors conflict on whether to do something old or play it safe in the past, while his anger and desire to destroy everything represents their reaction to the fans demanding they stay in the past.
Matt Martinez BOOOOOOOM you just made my brain explode. Thankyou for this momentary break from quarantine boredom! Watching all of these again!
This analysis is perfection and just what we need in these troubling times. Thank you!
A brilliant video, you guys did it again! I could not have said it better. TLJ was a really great movie with quite a few themes, but this one is surely the strongest.
Was waiting for this video! I don't understand why more people aren't liking this movie! Just because it's different than other films of the franchise doesn't mean that it's bad! The movie is about so much more, about learning from our mistakes. That's why people kept making wrong decisions. And Luke's death was perfectly handled, it was beautiful!
Yoda didn’t destroy the texts. He made Luke think he did, he knew Rey took them. We see them in the Falcon at the end of the movie.
Also, Kylo isn’t lying to her about her parents. They see into each other’s minds, and he finds out that way. That’s why he tries to make her admit it, because he know that she knows and accepting that her parents sold her off is something she needed to do.
*claps* finally someone gets it.
I know right?! So co fused why so many people hate this film because it actually deepens the meaning of what a Jedi is, how the Force works, how characters learn through failure, how characters fall because of pride, and how characters learn to foster hope over destroying hate.
Dude not only is this video awesome, these comments are genius. I’m new to the SW world and I looooooooove it. Everyone uses so much intellect when they examine the film
The way I understood it is that Luke was actually the last Jedi, if by Jedi you mean that tradition of force sensitive people with a specific role and training. While instead the Force belongs to all and should not be about learning a specific philosophy.
So I agree with the interpretation that the movie rejects the past elitism, rigidity and political charge of the Jedi order: it's time for a new era for the Force.
I would say that Luke for a time was the "last jedi" because he was the only one left and after feeling that the Jedi had done as much harm as good over time, felt it was best for the order to end.
He was right in a way; the fact was that people had come to almost deify the jedi, to see them as saviours when in fact they were all flawed people who made plenty of mistakes. For instance he's correct that 10,000 jedi were unable to prevent Sidious's rise and the creation of the Empire. Its possible that this happened because of their rigid philosophy and the fact that they took up positions of leadership in the military (and arguably influenced the government). People came to see the jedi as the only ones who had ownership of the force, which as you say is wrong (and counter to their philosophy).
Yoda basically says yes of course the Jedi screwed up in the past, but that doesn't mean everything they stood for was wrong. His argument; which Luke then excepts is that the Jedi (and indeed Luke) need to change and learn from their mistakes, but retain the fundamentals of the order. Key to this is the ability of the Jedi to inspire hope, which Luke duly does for the entire galaxy by facing down an army by himself.
By that time Luke was clear that he was not and would never be the last jedi, so the title became ironic. The order is likely to change in its role and future structures, but will continue. By taking his final act Luke became an even greater legend and a symbol of hope. The kids talking about him at the end was included to illustrate this, rejuvenating the order's future prospects.
all of what both of y'all said is how I see it, too. :D
Just want to take a moment to say thank you for this video. I've seen too many videos of butthurt people picking apart the movie second by second and finding fault in everything. Nice for someone to show why this movie was amazing and the deeper meaning in the narrative.
I love y'all Screen Prism lol!
IIX : Anyone can be special
IX : Just kidding.
One question I want answered in the new films, the elephant in the room Everytime Kylo is on screen, is hasn't anybody told him VADER KILLED THE EMPEROR AND GOT REDEEMED AND ADMITTED HE'D BEEN A HORSE'S ASS? It seems either Kylo doesn't know or happily ignores the final chapter of Granddaddy's life.
This reminds me of Yoda's arc in Clone Wars Season 6. The Force priestess said something about knowing yourself and learn to let go, don't deny the Dark Side but embrace it as a part of the Force, etc...Luke's flaw was that he saw Dark Side as an enemy(the old Jedi way that we familiar with) rather than embracing it, which led to him nearly killed Ben & led to this sequel trilogy.
A lot of the people who hate this movie seem to do so because they think it's throwing away, ignoring and rejecting the past that made the series special. True, they are moving forward, but they're not seeing the point of the message and are getting stuck on the negative "let the past die" motto without realizing that this conclusion is ultimately actually rejected by the film.
What a wonderful and articulate analysis. The force is strong with this channel!
My feelings on the movie continue to evolve. Right after viewing I like it, then thought about it and kinda hated it, then thought some more and kinda liked it, then thought some more and kinda didn't, now I'm just kinda middle of the road. Half good half bad movie.
Good story, bad plot.
I think if a movie makes you think and go back and forth that much, it must be a good film.
Same here, now I kinda like it hahaha
Senior Woodz Its just bad, not original and boring
Sam Toshner Really? I had the same problem with Spider-Man 3 and Phantom Menace
Everyone who has been complaining that Rian Johnson ruined Star Wars needs to see this video. Excellent work, ScreenPrism!
Yes, a Jedi doesn't need to be born from a certain family. But before "Last Jedi", it was understood that someone needed to learn how to use the Force. Obi-Wan told Luke; "You must learn the ways of the Force". But with the kid using the Force pull on the broom, he had no training. Rey doesn't need special parents. But it would help if she had been trained in some way before "Force Awakens" to be consistent with the other SW films; where to use the Force requires training.
Force sensitive kids are able to display abilities with the force before they are trained, (presumably that was how the Jedi identified them in the first place). In the films, Anakin was able to see the future when he was a child, Luke could use telekinesis before he met Yoda. The training allows them to hone and develop their abilities, it doesn't grant them.
In regards to Rey she actually displays very few force abilities prior to meeting with Luke. She has a force vision at the Cantina, uses a mind trick and uses telekinesis on one occasion. Other than the mind trick these acts were instinctive and were similar to what we have seen other untrained jedi do in all the films (Luke guiding in a million to one shot in ANH, seeing Obi Wan's ghost and pulling his light saber out of the ice on Hoth are at least as impressive, and he was untrained at that point).
You could make a point of the mind trick being used as this is clearly a more subtle power, however it is worth remembering that 1) It doesn't work at first, 2) that was TFA not TLJ so it was Abram's fault, and 3) In that film she had just witnessed Kylo Ren use the force to attempt to influence her mind for an extended period.
David Jones; I'm only looking at the live action SW films, telekinesis & training; in ANH Obi-Wan says; "You must learn the ways of the Force". In ANH Luke had some training with Obi-Wan. After that, he had telekinesis. Training is a central idea in the OT/ PT. Rey is told in TFA & TLJ, "You need a teacher". I've discussed this many times on the web. An untrained kid in live action SW shouldn't have telekinesis. In the live action franchise it's a skill that's learned.
I love how the broom handle looks like a light saber. The visual also dismantles the specialness of the light saber. Obviously the orthodox fanboys will be angry if the dismantle the uniqueness or high ground of what is great about star wars. hence the film makers have been very brave in their choices.
I felt silly coming out of the movie. In the elevator with my husband, I said "did you see the kid and the broom, was that supposed to be obvious or--" and he said "oh of COURSE it was" and I felt a little dumb for not realizing that. I'm glad it wasn't as subtle as I assumed it was, actually.
the more videos i see talking about the meanings the more it makes sense to me
I LOVED THIS MOVIE ❤️ Thank you for wonderfully summarizing the deep messages it has.
what message ?
It's okay if you didn't get it. Not everyone can see beyond the surface.
jaypob all I saw was bollocks that didn't make any sense. what exactly did you see ?
@jaypob True true… may the force be with then lol
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I agree with you mate! This "message" thing feels very forced. Aside to that, a movie can't be "evaluated" strictly by its supposely given message. If we approach cinema by this only "attribute", art form becomes lame then.
This video is helping me appreciate this film more. Now that I've watched this, I love the message Rian Johnson is trying to get across, but I still have some reservations about the plot points he used to convey that message.
Kylo, Rey, and Luke were the best part of the movie. How the movie treaded new ground with them makes me excited for the future. But JJ being attached to the next one shatters that anticipation
I love ScreenPrism. Great analysis of everything I love on tv.
You helped me understand this movie better, thank you.
Damn it. I may enjoy this movie a little more now.
no you won't. It is bad film.
Gene Star haha you’re right. Lol
Gene Star well, not a bad film. Just a bad Star Wars Movie.
*SPOILER*
The Yoda scene made my day, I wasn't expecting to see him in TLJ. And his "lesson" to Luke was amazing.
Btw, I think that Ryan Johnson saved SW, now JJ Abrams can't do a 'Return of the Jedi' ripoff XD.
This movie is much deeper and layered than I originally realized after first watching the movie just because everything that happened within it was such a rush of info. But when I let it sink in and saw the themes and character arcs presented in the movie, it let me truly appreciate what Rian Johnson has done for the Star Wars franchise.
This made me cry. Beautiful. Thank you. May the force be with us all.
You pout out consistently great content on this channel. Thank you
So that title of the movie...IT'S A TRAP!
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You will never be forgotten Admiral Akbar......never forget......
This is why I love this channel.
Man, I can come back to this channel for some reasoned logic, and calm voice, even if i dont always agree!! Bravo
New found appreciation to this film. Greatness can come from anywhere. The unknowns (Rey), the bad (Finn), the accidentals (Rose).
Thi was a great analysis of the movie (which I loved, by the way). I hope in the future you might do a more in-depth one. :)
A theory going around is that Rey fears being alone (holding on to the idea of her parents were special, and there was good reason for abandonment).. and that the dark cave showed her she is truly alone..which could be either a realization of this fear, meant harm her spirit.
But it also could also be seen as a comfort, seeing herself never being alone within herself. That she is her own, not defined by her parents. But more than she thinks she is.
Which is a bit unlike what Luke saw when he sees his face as Darth Vader.
Putting a question on this whole.."dark cave" intentions.
That cave scene was brilliant, what is in a dark side cave? only what you bring into it. Once you realize this you learn so much more about who and what Rey is, of course only in hindsight :)
You missed the same detailed as so many others. Yoda did not burn anything, Rey already had took the books with her, we see them again in the falcon, that is why yoda said to Luke that everything in the library was with Rey
Shoulda watched the Porgs closely then :P instead of rolling yer eyes haha
Amazing review, very thoughtful
Wow, this is the first TLJ video not bombarded with dislikes and comments saying "Disney ruined Star Wars and they paid critics to give positive reviews."
With all the hate of this film and celebration that the Jedi Order is going to go away, this intelligent repudiation that the wisdom and ideals of the Jedi will never die is something I needed to hear.
The comment section here is SOOOOOOOOOOO refreshing compared to basically any other video related to the Last Jedi (which I really like)
THIS. THIS ENTIRE VIDEO. EXTREME HATERS NEED TO WATCH THIS ENTIRE VIDEO. Is TLJ flawless? God no. Does it have problems? Yes, and big ones. But the dynamic between Rey, Ben and Luke is not one of them.
what dynamic
What big problems? Most of them aren’t really that big, they’re just nitpicks
Akasha-Manda Finhas Re-watch the movie if you didn't get it.
Lion of Judah I guess it's a matter of perspective, especially with these movies. Personally, one of my biggest gripes with the new trilogy is the gross mishandling of Capt. Phasma. It's like they created a female character to stir up the sausage fest of the Dark Side, but didn't know what to do with her, so they just wedge her in somewhere to say she exists in Finn's storyline and that's it, which in my opinion is worse than if they never created her in the first place cause all they left behind was a pile of wasted potential.
As for the Canto Bight sequence, while I understand what they were going for thematically and with the story, plot wise it was rather pointless. Now, normally this wouldn't bother me as much since it did serve a thematic point, but add in the fact that it looks so un-Star Wars that it's like we entered a different movie altogether, and my gripe rises quite a bit. I know one of the 2 main themes was "from the lessons of the old we create something new", but I didn't feel that balance in Canto Bight.
Those are my two main problems with the movie. There are others, but like you said, they're more like nitpicks.
I thought what they did with the characters, Luke especially, was perfect.
cringe
That's not a very convincing argument.
I don't mind what they did, but how they did it. For example, why not kill off both Luke & Leia instead of just Luke? Or maybe keep Luke on & kill off Leia? Carrie Fisher (RIP) is dead, so no one can act out the character. 😢 Secondly, why did they introduce a romantic relationship with Finn & Rose? Rose is a good addition to the cast, but I don't think Finn is developed enough yet. & I was personally waiting for the Rey x Finn reunion!! 💔
I can't say I disagree with you. It seems to me they kept Leia around so they could play with her relationship with Kylo in Episode IX, and of course they didn't know she would die. I also didn't really buy the whole Finn and Rose thing, and I don't thing Finn did either. His face when she kisses him is like "What the hell have you done?" I don't know, I hope they don't try and progress.
True, Kylo seems to have more resentment for his father than he does for his mother. (As seen when he's unable to shoot at Leia, whereas he killed Han even though he hesitated). The whole Rose kissing Finn was so forced it was painful to watch.😓 Finn didn't even know she was gonna kiss him cause A) he was too focus on his surroundings & B) he was in shock. Throughout the movie, Rey x Finn's relationship was strongly hinted. (Finn's first question when he woke up was 'Where's Rey?' & Chewie asked Rey what to say to Finn if he saw him first.) Heck, in TFA she kissed him in his forehead before leaving to meet Luke!! She could of squeezed his hand or something 😒 Why, writers? Why? 😢
Great video!
I love this channel and the way you analyze every aspect of the movies/tv shows..! 😊 Hey, can you analyze Altered Carbon?? Xoxo from Argentina! 😘
STAR WARS: WE DIDN'T SET UP EPISODE IX
4:50 - Yoda doesn't burn the Jedi text books, that was metaphorical. Rey took them, as you'll notice they're in the drawer on the Falcon that Finn takes a blanket out of for Rose at the end of the film.
As long as there are jedi. there will be siths in the darkness.
Kylo Ren pretty much said that his parents abandoned him. How can that not affect a child?
Awesome review! ❤️
that was the best 8:46 of my life =D so glad to have finley seen it yesterday and i most agree/get all you say in this vid =D and the force is strong with this one =)
I thought Rey isn’t a Jedi? Even with the force training
Just a force user who uses a lightsaber
you put it in a big, beautiful nutshell. :)
THANK YOU! This is a perfect analyze of the movie! I loved that movie and its themes, how it changes the dynamic of the saga. I ope more people will see it.
Wow finally someone gets it!
this is why i am alive today. thank you girl voice trapped in a screenprism
sick edits, editor.
It was amazing! People are reacting like they initially did with Empire. Very interesting. We will resist. You may be the last Jedi...and make a difference
‘Be not afraid of greatness. Some are born great, some achieve greatness, and others have greatness thrust upon them.’ -William Shakespeare, Twelfth Night
The Last Jedi's title reminded me of the departing words of Obi-Wan's Force ghost in the Legends continuity. He told Luke that he was not the last of the Jedi, but the first of the new. So I guess this message's target is now Rey?
English speakers: What does the title mean!!???
People who speak a foreign language that has "Jedi" as plural in the title: Heh... Heh...
i dont know who is gonna be the last jedi but tom cruise is the last samurai
Now that is real deep....good video...
This is why I love the movie.
Beautiful video! I don't fully agree, though... Mainly because the original saga had already given a beautiful message of everlasting hope. Even when the absolute evil that is the Emperor wins, even when the chosen one himself is corrupted, there is always hope. What's there to add to that? Plus, it was also about the theme of family and "dynasty", and of the relatively low importance that they must have in defining an individual. Luke didn't defeat the Emperor because he was Vader's son, but DESPITE being Vader's son. His highly Force-sensitive blood didn't give him the strength to resist the Dark Side. His good heart did. His friends, his adoptive family, his mentors. The experiences he made as an individual, mostly when he still thought that his father was dead. So... the message already was that you must define yourself by showing courage and doing what's right, and not by where you come from.
Though an onion has many layers, deep down you're still left with an onion.
The title means Kennedy and Co. thought "I guess that sounds catchy enough"
beautiful video
7:38 - for those who thought the Rose/Finn casino sub-plot had no use in the film
I love the ideas in Last Jedi. I just wish they had done it well.
I would like to see Mark Hamil in a Star Wars Stort film showing Luke's journey from Return of the Jedi to exile. With the digital technology (especially several years of advancement over Rogue One) they could show him age from his young self to his current age as well. And using the original actor with, obviously, the same bone structure would probably make it work better.
Thank you for makings this
A lot of thematic similarities to the Last Samurai
the fun thing is, the title "The last Jedi" uses the plural article for Jedi in my language. So no one ever thought about it possibly only being one person here
I love the idea that Rey's parents were random dudes, it's game changing for SW to tell us that the Force can lay in anyone
Yoda didn't burn the texts Rey took them and Yoda knew it :)
Shoulda watched the Porgs closely then :P instead of rolling yer eyes haha
Hmm...this made me enjoy the movie in retrospect much more than I did walking out of the theater.
Nice talk and highlight of annother key theme
Rey is genetically engineered. Her parents really are "nobodies". She sees no one in the cave because there is no one to see, while Kylo pushes her into believing that her parents were "nobody important". Rey was engineered with a mix of Skywalker blood, she is more of a sister to Luke and Leia. Both Luke and Leia know and sense that, but both believe their blood to be more of a curse than a blessing, given what happened to Ben and how Ben became a prize for dark Force user to turn to the dark side.
"there will never be a last jedi... there will always be a new hope" welp, guess I'm crying in public again.
Great video.
Here's a thought: personally, I believe Star Wars should not only discuss the idea that the Force must remain in balance, that light and dark must be equally strong in the universe, but that there may be light found in darkness, and darkness in light. For example, the Jedi, the light, always maintain that sacrifices must be made for the common good - how far can this go? Or, an example we already know, Anakin turning to the dark side for Padme. One might argue that it was for a selfish desire to not let go of her, but it could also be taken as a selfless act driven by love. What are other's thoughts? Should this be raised in Star Wars?
Exactly, thank you!
I don't understand this idea that The Last Jedi brings the idea that anyone can become a Jedi, not just those who are part of certain bloodlines. It's always been the case. Who are Yoda, Obi-Wan or Mace Windu's families? No one special!
I was so pissed when i got to the theater and was spoiled by the title "Os Últimos Jedi"
Finally someone got it!
I think that the biggest problem with the Sequel Trilogy is that it was not meant to exist, as Episode 6 closes the saga very well (no more Sith, the Rebels win and most importantly the Skywalkers bringing balace to the force fullfiling their destiny).
If they want to let go of the past, maybe they should change the title from Star Wars to Space Disgreements.