Age of Sigmar 4th Edition! Sons of Behemat vs Seraphon: Mega-Gargants vs Kroxigor!!
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The overhead cam is really great guys. Really helps follow the report in a much more meaningful way. Great work pulling that off. Really happy to see the channel growing
thank you for your support and kind words
for what it's worth, the Krondspine dying during turn 2 for the sons would not have failed "do not waver" as it is not a unit. It didn't die anyway, but it wouldn't have mattered.
Truth. Good call :) hope you are digging the new videos!
Thanks for telling us sons lost before I've watched it :)
@@JebodiahJunfan "Thanks for telling us sons lost before I've watched it :)"
No one said that, they were advising that the discussion around worrying that a Battle Tactic was going to be scored via a dead Krondspine wouldn't have resulted in points (but it didn't die anyway to give points so didn't affect the points / end of the game).
@@JebodiahJunfan Someone didn't watch the video.
@@KodyackCasual I didnt need to
Love the content! Quick note, when the krondspine gets banished it only takes 6 unwardable damage and does not get banished.
my thoughts as well
you are correct and we definatly knew that. i thought the knondspine had already taken some damage. so when it was banished it would have been removed, but i could be remembering incorrectly
It got banished 2 turns in a row. So it got zonked the 2nd time
Quite sure that Mystical Unforging can't be stacked on the same unit. You can cast it multiple times, but it turns into a passive once applied and units can only be affected by 1 "of the same passives" at a time
I think that is a specific rule for all unlimited spells. They can be cast multiple times but cannot target the same unit more than once, no matter how often you cast it.
So dave and i read this in detail, and it comes down to the rule of 1. The question became is a spell a passive. Looking at 5.4 it says that abilities that have passive timings are called passives. Passive abilities are not declared. We ruled that since you have to declare the spell its not passive. there isnt really anything that states the spell becomes passive after casting. if there is you help us out and point us in the right direction.
@@BattleshockWargaming Dang, nevermind on my point. I usually play Soulblight, and both their unlimited spell and Nagash's warscroll "unlimited" spell both say in the wording that you cannot target the same unit more than once. Neither of the Seraphon unlimited spells have that restriction. I just assumed that's how all unlimited spells worked, but apparently not. That's good to know.
@@BattleshockWargaming it is 28.1 Persisting Effects in the core rules. It states that abilities that are not resolved immediately are treated the same way as passives (such as +1 to save for the rest of the turn, or in this case -1 from rend until the start of your next turn)
@@ConradVosThis is correct.
One thing that's nice about the new data cards/warscrolls is you can keep track of Health and damage that way instead of having random dice all over the board. Much cleaner for players!
Starting a Sons of Behemat army soon and got a friend hooked on AoS with Seraphon, so this battle rep was a blessing. Not 100% on all the rules, but this was easy to follow and very entertaining. Looking forward for more battle reps!
Glad you enjoyed, Seraphon is going to be back on shortly. think we film with kroak next week
SO happy to see this many kroxigors! Great job guys your reports keep getting better and better! thanks for all the hard work!
For sure! Thanks for watching our content! We appreciate you :)
Not enough SoB videos for 4th
They'll be back soon!
Great report, guys! Does you can stack Mystical unforging debuff on 1 unit? Probably -1 Rend is "persistent" effect and shouldn't stack on 1 unit
Great battle report, kroxigor are formidable.
they seem mighty. which makes me happy cause they are rad
go for the hunters of huanchi instead of normal skinks they are cheaper and have good debuffs to support your kroxs plus the two versions have deepstrike
this is true hunters are a good pick. but i actually dont have them in the collection...yet
Not that it had any impact I think, but celestial equilibrium is +1 to cast for other wizards whollly within 12" not tablewide.
it is and i am fairly certain michael knows this...i think 3rd edition just slipped out of his mouth breifly
Thanks for your great content. I would love, if you would again put your army lists into the video 🙏🏻
I think you could swap the skinks for either flavor of Huanchi. The teleport formation just kinda sucks bc the teleport is a core keyword, so if it fails, you can’t move your unit.
still dont have hunters in the collection need to pick them up just for that teleport
Celestial equilibrium is not table wide anymore sadly. But great game, really enjoyed!
You are correct it has been reduced to 12 inches
I wonder if it is a general bad thing for SoB that they can not really use a manifestiation lore, cause they can barely cast one endless spell in one round. But if they hit with their normal attacks, they hurt quite good.
Its for sure bad that they cant really use manifestations. but if they are going to going for the krondspine seems like the right choice. I would love to see a wizard giant. like a big nerdy giant with a shinny rock and some upside down books
There's always the RoR with Gobapalooza to add a wizard
brings 4 models btw this is 160 wounds you have to kill. Most whole armies prob dont have that many wounds. As soon as the manifestion nerf comes out sons army will be a whole lot better
Gargants seem strong just for that very reason. ALot of armies are really going to struggle to bring them down
@@BattleshockWargaming ikr and most things dont have the durability to take a slightly lucky swing from them since lets not lie they have kinda bad to hit for such elite models but if they whif they are just useless. As soon as they nerf manifestions the army and a few others will be a lot better
Great vid guys! Thanks very much
I am glad you enjoyed it!
MEGA GARGANTSSSSSS!! CMON LETS GOOO!
Gargants SMASH
I thought Manifestations cannot score Battle Tactics for you, but it seems like you counted Krondie for controlling the terrain, am I misunderstanding something?
The Kraken Eater scored take their land on the statue for my first battle tactic :)
Y'all didn't even try on those giant bases lol.
do or do not there is not try
Is the King brodds stomp tribe any good atmo? I feel breaker tribe is the go to pick. Didnt King Brodd also have a ward save if near another gargent? Good game overall though.
I saw King Brodds Stomp did well at a tournament recently, I'm gonna try it out
King brodds stomp still seems good should still play well in 4th
Were you getting the +1 dmg with the warspawned for having a skink unit nearby?
no the chargers were to far away from that
2 of my armies. Love it.
Did michael forget to use the realmshaper ability? And also choose a second asterism?
couldnt do the realmshaper ability because i failed the mini mission, enemy was within my territory. And dave stayed away from terrain so i couldnt blow anything up.
@@BattleshockWargamingoh yeah! Doh, sorry! Still trying to learn seraphon
I feel that the seraphon strategy was a losing strategy from the beginning. Sacrificing 3 turns of scoring primary objectives without engaging aggressively onto the gargants makes no sense. If you want to win against giants you need to kill 2/3 in first 3 battle rounds
well ill tell you, we played a match before this where i did just that and dave lifted each unit i threw at him in my turn. so i was fighting with half and army. if i could have gotten around the flanks slightly better i would have been able to pull down the win
Comment for the blood god.
Soon the blood will flow!
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This was a good matchup!
@@BattleshockWargaming ofcourse it was, it has my dino boys in it
When are we getting Kruleboyz lol?
Very soon :)
You cant stack -1 to rend on one enemy unit even though its unlimited spell
So dave and i read this in detail, and it comes down to the rule of 1. The question became is a spell a passive. Looking at 5.4 it says that abilities that have passive timings are called passives. Passive abilities are not declared. We ruled that since you have to declare the spell its not passive. there isnt really anything that states the spell becomes passive after casting. if there is you help us out and point us in the right direction.
Correct. If ability doesn't say it's passive it isn't.
@@bakuchidancerpersisting effects are considered passives. So while technically you can pick the same target, it actually just isn't affected by the same passive. So it doesn't stack.
@@BattleshockWargaming28.1 persisting effects. Doesn't matter if it's from a spell, abilities are abilities. An ability that applies a persisting effect is treated as a passive.
Great bat rep as always. Missing magic noises tho 😅
ill stay on top of dave for that make sure he is making more sound effects
@BattleshockWargaming if there is no sound effects, is it really magic? Or chants!
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