Great video. Thank you! For the 5th Gen 4Runner: Front brakes *BUY OEM #04465-60320 (DON’T buy the front ceramic #04464-AZ200). For the Rear brakes: *BUY OEM #04466-60140 (DON’T buy the Rear ceramic #04466-AZ208). Easy job. Good luck!
Thanks for this vid. My wife's highlander has been squealing after Toyota did her brake service. They keep telling us everything is good and they have had a problem with the pads. Wish I knew I have no problem paying for the better parts. 😮
Brakes, out of all things in the car, are one area I wouldn't want to go Cheap and Skimp on and cut corners. I'd rather get great quality brakes and make sure they're installed properly. One's own life and safety is just too important than saving a few bucks.
In most cases, Advics (Sumitomo) a division of Aisin manufactures Toyota's TFR Brake Pads. Available through Rock Auto and they always have a 5% off coupon. FYI, dealers markup on parts is about 40%, so ALWAYS haggle with them on their prices. NISSIN also makes OEM Japanese pads, and so does Akebono. Having tried them all over the course of almost 600,000 miles, I can say that the NISSIN and Advics are the best, the Akebono formula generates more dust and are harsher on the rotors.
I was told that the difference between them is that the original pads that came with the car are semi-metallic, whereas the cheaper ones are ceramic. However, metallic pads last longer because it actually wears the rotors instead. That’s one of the reasons they last longer. But rotors are more expensive in parts and labor than pads. When the two meet to stop the car, something has to wear out.
I had brakes done at the Toyota dealership on my 4Runner a few months ago and they squeak so loud when they are cold, wet or if they get dirty from driving on a dirt road, now I know why. Thank you sharing this information!
This is exactly my experience, too. Took it back to the dealership and they told me the breaks look fine and there is nothing they can do. What if anything have you done to fix the issue? I'm thinking about getting new pads and maybe rotors and putting them on myself.
Go back and say you have a noise still. They should replace them under 1 year failed part warranty with the original parts the truck was built with. That's what we do at Toyota
Consider most people here are performing their own maintenance. If you spend 1/3 less on a brake pad and it lasts 3/4 the mileage. It’s a win. Over time, you will save more money thus saving you for better upgrades. Good to know about this vs that. But it’s not like the oem brake pad with AZ lettering is going to make your brakes not work.
Thank you for sharing the information. Never knew this information. I just had a break job. Had to replace the front rotor too. The original rotor was warped so I decided to replace them and with OEM Toyota cheap pads. Not aware of the better quality pads. Shyt! Thank you for sharing.
@@TwistedJakecheap Brake pads and aftermarkets parts on Toyota/Lexus are damn noisy and the brake pedal feels terrible but once I bought everything OEM made from Japan it was back to normal like new.
The friction rating for those 60140 is EE. That’s two notches below GG, (Bosch, Akebonos ACP, power stop, etc) . What that mean is these have less “bite” than FF, GG or HH.
I purchased the cheaper Toyota pads. They actually say made in Japan. Replaced them myself with the supplied grease. No squeak whatsoever. Super happy I got my “cheaper” ones.
Curious , rav 4 & highlanders of all years &models seem to still have braking issues ? Warped rotors , these are all done by Toyota mechanics, seems the rotors are too small & not thick enough or low quality metal ? & calipers are too small for these heavy vehicles? Any other brands work for these issues ?? Thanks !
The problem with my Fj is that the front calipers have been replaced three times. They keep getting seized up and only last about four to five years. I wish I would have known before I got my brakes done. I will ask for the better ones next time.
Wait a minute. Did you say you are at 90k miles on those "STOCK" or "ORIGINAL MANUFACTURE" TOYOTA BRAKE PADS? Interesting.... Consider I just had to change my Wife's 2020 4Runners Front Brakes Pads and Rotors due To Rotor Warping and The Brake Pads mainly the inners pads, Down to Damn Near Nothing at 34k Miles. And Yes They Are The Original Rotors and Pads (Blue color). Note: I also Changed the Rears to Match the Front Upgrade as Well, and The Rear Brakes Were Replaced back in September 2022 due to Being down to Nothing as Well. Toyota Brakes on the 4Runner ( My wife's Vehicle for Sure) were $#it from Day One. they Felt Mushy and Not Very Aggressive. And as to the Rears, I learned Back on Her Venza from before, that Toyota Uses Their Stability Control System/Braking Assit , Yada Yada Yada, via the Rear Brakes. Causing the Excessive Rear Pads wear. But You got 90k miles on Those. WOW
I am hard on brakes. My Tundra front rotors warped at 30k. the dealer turned them, and reinstalled them. Of course they warped again, so I replaced them with new Toyota rotors. They lasted too 65k and warped... AGAIN! So i installed slotted cryogenically treated rotors and ceramic pads. I now have 146k on my truck... same front brakes. I am going to switch my wife's 4RUNNER to the same. Some folks are just harder on brakes and drive in hot climates like Florida where I live, factory brakes never last with me
90k on front brake pads?!?! Must do mostly highway driving. I do a mix and I’m down to 3mm on the fronts at 56k so will be ordering these pads soon. Thanks for the heads up.
Hi Jake, I have a 2021 SR5 Premium and when i put your link in TCMC Budget Part Numbers Front 04465-AZ001, Amazom is saying the they do not fit my vehicle. Is there a different part number for the 2021 front pads ?
THANK YOU! I am taking my car to the dealer for an oil change n check th pads why to change then after 39k miles when they r stock. They are saying p6 front and P6 rear. will ask to show me the pads when they rotate the Nitto grapplers P265Rto17, another disappointment ..... 22K out of them ......will get the ridge......or do you have a recommendation.....going to discount tires and ditching Toyota dealers...
if you don't see them take your Old Ones Off, they can Show You Anything. If You can Turn a Wrench, Do them yourself and Go Aftermarket Upgrade. You'll Get Better Performance, Long Life at A Cheaper Price. At The STEALERSHIP, most Of those guys working on your Vehicle aren't Even Mechanics, They are "Techs" or Many are " Students". The Shop Legally only have To Have 1 ASE Certified Mechanic per ( not Really Sure on how Many Bays), but In the Shop, You'll be Lucky to See More Than Two guys with that Certification.
@@jeffusrangerairborne9061 thank you Jeff...I can tell..but it makes sense how bad it is after what you just said .... They have destroyed the mechanical maintenance and repair industry n further gone to the age stone at these places ..,Even monkeys can do.a b etter job...last time there ... Now I have the time to do it myself ..thank I doe the info n advice u r dead on 👍
The letter part hasn't got anything to do with being higher in grade. I got my brake pads changed on my fortuner, paid $100, and have gotten horrible mileage on it. My brake pads have no lettering on it. It's strictly numbered. But I'm surprised with how much less mileage I got out of it.
Then you have no idea what you're talking about, of course the AZ is a budget option they make to compete with the aftermarket products. This is common knowledge for techs and people experienced in the auto industry. A few cases or your anecdotal experiences don't chance the facts.
the pads that came with a new toyota are the cheaper kind but they are very good pads , no dust no noise and hi milage and the top quality are an upgrade of those pads no dust no noise better brake than the cheaper but run for less mileage than the cheaper ones
@@TwistedJakewhat's the usual factory pass life expectancy?one has 38.5mi n telling me the back is 5 n makes no sense ...I do not pull anything.m.y previous german car did not need to change them until 80k..isbtjere such a thing as herman pass for the Toyotas...do you recommend to do the brake job?
Both Toyota pads are made in Japan by the same company (hint it’s NOT Toyota, they don’t make brake pads). Secondly, the less expensive ones are CERAMIC and identified with AZ. They ARE NOT made in the USA!!! They are made in JAPAN. I work on hundreds of Toyotas, it’s obvious you DO NOT! The OE pads are made by the same company (not Toyota) and are in fact SEMI METALLIC. Might want to correct your misleading video….. the CERAMIC Pads are fine and work flawlessly when rotors are turned or replaced by a Toyota tech and not some lube tech. Love the misinformation on RUclips. Forums are great places to hear people bitch about things that are typically their own stupid fault.
I’ve never once heard of any Toyota dealership using aftermarket brake pads or rotors at a Toyota dealership. Also anyone with a brain will call their local dealership and get the part number matched with their VIN numbers. I only deal in wholesale with my local Toyota dealership any any car I am working with is always getting the parts matched to the VIN. Never had an issue once because I know what to look for and how to word it if the rep is confused which is rare
Watch the vid and listen to my words. The cheap crappy pads they tend to use are factory Toyota parts. They are just lower tier crappy ones and not the same that came on the rig from the factory.
I actually do not have it wrong. Toyota updated the part numbers for 2020 and newer. I do not know if there is any difference in the actual part but even the link above shows the part numbers I have listed as correct. You can pull up both part numbers on any Toyota parts website and see that the one I listed is for 2019 and older.
This man deserves a medal! God bless America!
Great video. Thank you! For the 5th Gen 4Runner: Front brakes *BUY OEM #04465-60320 (DON’T buy the front ceramic #04464-AZ200). For the Rear brakes: *BUY OEM #04466-60140 (DON’T buy the Rear ceramic #04466-AZ208). Easy job. Good luck!
Thank you for the information. I almost buy these two sets 03-24 4RUNNER FRONT & REAR GENUINE TOYOTA BRAKE PAD KIT 04465-AZ200 04466-AZ203
Thanks for this vid. My wife's highlander has been squealing after Toyota did her brake service. They keep telling us everything is good and they have had a problem with the pads. Wish I knew I have no problem paying for the better parts. 😮
do not trust the dealer and their techs......they are no longer experienced nor skilled ... they are a shame to their profession as mechanics.....
Brakes, out of all things in the car, are one area I wouldn't want to go Cheap and Skimp on and cut corners. I'd rather get great quality brakes and make sure they're installed properly. One's own life and safety is just too important than saving a few bucks.
In most cases, Advics (Sumitomo) a division of Aisin manufactures Toyota's TFR Brake Pads. Available through Rock Auto and they always have a 5% off coupon. FYI, dealers markup on parts is about 40%, so ALWAYS haggle with them on their prices. NISSIN also makes OEM Japanese pads, and so does Akebono. Having tried them all over the course of almost 600,000 miles, I can say that the NISSIN and Advics are the best, the Akebono formula generates more dust and are harsher on the rotors.
Very important info! Thanks very much TJ!
I was told that the difference between them is that the original pads that came with the car are semi-metallic, whereas the cheaper ones are ceramic. However, metallic pads last longer because it actually wears the rotors instead. That’s one of the reasons they last longer. But rotors are more expensive in parts and labor than pads. When the two meet to stop the car, something has to wear out.
I had brakes done at the Toyota dealership on my 4Runner a few months ago and they squeak so loud when they are cold, wet or if they get dirty from driving on a dirt road, now I know why. Thank you sharing this information!
This is exactly my experience, too. Took it back to the dealership and they told me the breaks look fine and there is nothing they can do. What if anything have you done to fix the issue? I'm thinking about getting new pads and maybe rotors and putting them on myself.
@@RaymundoRockget the rotors and brake pads made in Japan anything else is not going to work well in your Toyota/Lexus car. Tell me how I know.
@@MultiInKIEtothe cheaper Toyota ones are also made in Japan.
They didn’t use the supplied grease on the shims. That’s the cause of the noise.
Go back and say you have a noise still. They should replace them under 1 year failed part warranty with the original parts the truck was built with. That's what we do at Toyota
Consider most people here are performing their own maintenance. If you spend 1/3 less on a brake pad and it lasts 3/4 the mileage. It’s a win. Over time, you will save more money thus saving you for better upgrades. Good to know about this vs that. But it’s not like the oem brake pad with AZ lettering is going to make your brakes not work.
Thank you for sharing the information. Never knew this information. I just had a break job. Had to replace the front rotor too. The original rotor was warped so I decided to replace them and with OEM Toyota cheap pads. Not aware of the better quality pads. Shyt! Thank you for sharing.
On the bright side, I've never heard of the cheap pads failing or anything.
@@TwistedJakecheap Brake pads and aftermarkets parts on Toyota/Lexus are damn noisy and the brake pedal feels terrible but once I bought everything OEM made from Japan it was back to normal like new.
The friction rating for those 60140 is EE. That’s two notches below GG, (Bosch, Akebonos ACP, power stop, etc) . What that mean is these have less “bite” than FF, GG or HH.
Thanks for the heads up!
I purchased the cheaper Toyota pads. They actually say made in Japan. Replaced them myself with the supplied grease. No squeak whatsoever. Super happy I got my “cheaper” ones.
good info. Thank for making this video.
Curious , rav 4 & highlanders of all years &models seem to still have braking issues ? Warped rotors , these are all done by Toyota mechanics, seems the rotors are too small & not thick enough or low quality metal ? & calipers are too small for these heavy vehicles? Any other brands work for these issues ?? Thanks !
The problem with my Fj is that the front calipers have been replaced three times. They keep getting seized up and only last about four to five years. I wish I would have known before I got my brakes done.
I will ask for the better ones next time.
What is your recommendation for breaking in new pads with new rotors?
5th Generation 4Runner??....Much Mahalo 🤙
Can you do a video on rotors? Is the same with them? Thanks
Do these part numbers also apply to the FJ Cruiser? Mechanically they are the same as the 4Runner. Thanks for the video.
I got brakes that have AZ on them but read made in Japan.
Wait a minute. Did you say you are at 90k miles on those "STOCK" or "ORIGINAL MANUFACTURE" TOYOTA BRAKE PADS?
Interesting.... Consider I just had to change my Wife's 2020 4Runners Front Brakes Pads and Rotors due To Rotor Warping and The Brake Pads mainly the inners pads, Down to Damn Near Nothing at 34k Miles. And Yes They Are The Original Rotors and Pads (Blue color).
Note: I also Changed the Rears to Match the Front Upgrade as Well, and The Rear Brakes Were Replaced back in September 2022 due to Being down to Nothing as Well. Toyota Brakes on the 4Runner ( My wife's Vehicle for Sure) were $#it from Day One. they Felt Mushy and Not Very Aggressive. And as to the Rears, I learned Back on Her Venza from before, that Toyota Uses Their Stability Control System/Braking Assit , Yada Yada Yada, via the Rear Brakes. Causing the Excessive Rear Pads wear. But You got 90k miles on Those. WOW
I am hard on brakes. My Tundra front rotors warped at 30k. the dealer turned them, and reinstalled them. Of course they warped again, so I replaced them with new Toyota rotors. They lasted too 65k and warped... AGAIN! So i installed slotted cryogenically treated rotors and ceramic pads. I now have 146k on my truck... same front brakes. I am going to switch my wife's 4RUNNER to the same. Some folks are just harder on brakes and drive in hot climates like Florida where I live, factory brakes never last with me
90k on front brake pads?!?!
Must do mostly highway driving. I do a mix and I’m down to 3mm on the fronts at 56k so will be ordering these pads soon. Thanks for the heads up.
Are there 2 different types of Toyota rotors like these brakes or the rotors have only 1 kind Toyota brand?
Hi Jake, I have a 2021 SR5 Premium and when i put your link in TCMC Budget Part Numbers
Front 04465-AZ001, Amazom is saying the they do not fit my vehicle. Is there a different part number for the 2021 front pads ?
The correct part # is 04465-35330 for 2019 to Present 5th gen 4runners
Would they still make the TFR pads for older Gen 3 models? Let's say 1998? Thanks for the info!
Tundra brakes for 3rd gen
What's the average ptice difference. You mentioned good ones run around $150 what are those lesser than US pads going for?
I paid $130 for the cheaper pads (with Z in part number) at a dealership in Houston yesterday. That was $65 front, and $63 rear
$40 on eBay lol
What rotors? Everything depends on match between rotors and pads…
THANK YOU! I am taking my car to the dealer for an oil change n check th pads why to change then after 39k miles when they r stock. They are saying p6 front and P6 rear. will ask to show me the pads when they rotate the Nitto grapplers P265Rto17, another disappointment ..... 22K out of them ......will get the ridge......or do you have a recommendation.....going to discount tires and ditching Toyota dealers...
if you don't see them take your Old Ones Off, they can Show You Anything. If You can Turn a Wrench, Do them yourself and Go Aftermarket Upgrade. You'll Get Better Performance, Long Life at A Cheaper Price. At The STEALERSHIP, most Of those guys working on your Vehicle aren't Even Mechanics, They are "Techs" or Many are " Students". The Shop Legally only have To Have 1 ASE Certified Mechanic per ( not Really Sure on how Many Bays), but In the Shop, You'll be Lucky to See More Than Two guys with that Certification.
@@jeffusrangerairborne9061 thank you Jeff...I can tell..but it makes sense how bad it is after what you just said .... They have destroyed the mechanical maintenance and repair industry n further gone to the age stone at these places ..,Even monkeys can do.a b etter job...last time there ... Now I have the time to do it myself ..thank I doe the info n advice u r dead on 👍
I skipped on the “AZ” as those are the cheaper noisy ones …
Just upgrade to Powerstop Z36 Rotors Calipers and break pads.
How do you like the upgrade? Was looking at this for my 21
@@harbud8 Its the first upgrade anyone with a 4Runner should do. Rock Crawler to Pavement Princess. The full system is perfectly balanced.
@@American_Mike Certainly appreciate the reply.
Does it fit 2021 ?
The letter part hasn't got anything to do with being higher in grade. I got my brake pads changed on my fortuner, paid $100, and have gotten horrible mileage on it. My brake pads have no lettering on it. It's strictly numbered. But I'm surprised with how much less mileage I got out of it.
Then you have no idea what you're talking about, of course the AZ is a budget option they make to compete with the aftermarket products. This is common knowledge for techs and people experienced in the auto industry. A few cases or your anecdotal experiences don't chance the facts.
@@DownloaderVideo Talk to people like that irl you’d get punched in the mouth.
@@TheOfficialRandomGuy Ok buddy, now go and tell mama you defended yourself and were brave on the internet…she will be proud of you.
@@DownloaderVideo I’m the one that started shit with you neckbeard
You don't want those cheap pads if you're running a lot of weight, such as bumpers, rtt, bigger tires.
the pads that came with a new toyota are the cheaper kind but they are very good pads , no dust no noise and hi milage and the top quality are an upgrade of those pads no dust no noise better brake than the cheaper but run for less mileage than the cheaper ones
This is incorrect. The pads that come on the 4Runner brand new from the factory are the nicer longer lasting ones.
@@TwistedJakewhat's the usual factory pass life expectancy?one has 38.5mi n telling me the back is 5 n makes no sense ...I do not pull anything.m.y previous german car did not need to change them until 80k..isbtjere such a thing as herman pass for the Toyotas...do you recommend to do the brake job?
Sorry for the confusion that’s is for Toyota 4Runner 2010-2023
oh cool thanks, i have 07
The devil is in the details / thank you
Both Toyota pads are made in Japan by the same company (hint it’s NOT Toyota, they don’t make brake pads).
Secondly, the less expensive ones are CERAMIC and identified with AZ. They ARE NOT made in the USA!!! They are made in JAPAN. I work on hundreds of Toyotas, it’s obvious you DO NOT!
The OE pads are made by the same company (not Toyota) and are in fact SEMI METALLIC. Might want to correct your misleading video….. the CERAMIC Pads are fine and work flawlessly when rotors are turned or replaced by a Toyota tech and not some lube tech. Love the misinformation on RUclips. Forums are great places to hear people bitch about things that are typically their own stupid fault.
I’ve never once heard of any Toyota dealership using aftermarket brake pads or rotors at a Toyota dealership. Also anyone with a brain will call their local dealership and get the part number matched with their VIN numbers. I only deal in wholesale with my local Toyota dealership any any car I am working with is always getting the parts matched to the VIN. Never had an issue once because I know what to look for and how to word it if the rep is confused which is rare
Watch the vid and listen to my words. The cheap crappy pads they tend to use are factory Toyota parts. They are just lower tier crappy ones and not the same that came on the rig from the factory.
08-2019+ is using 04465-35330 front and 04466-60140 rear. www.toyotapartsandservice.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/04_BrakePads2021_hi.pdf
Exactly, he has the wrong part number for the front
I actually do not have it wrong. Toyota updated the part numbers for 2020 and newer. I do not know if there is any difference in the actual part but even the link above shows the part numbers I have listed as correct. You can pull up both part numbers on any Toyota parts website and see that the one I listed is for 2019 and older.