2022 BMW M240i XDrive vs Infiniti Q60 RedSport, easy prediction?Maybe! Drag and roll race.

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  • 2022 BMW M240i XDrive vs Infiniti Q60 RedSport, easy prediction?Maybe! Drag and roll race.
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  • @jabariphillips8855
    @jabariphillips8855 2 года назад +83

    These B58 BMW engines are just unmatched when paired with a ZF, it’s damn near unfair for the other brands 😂

    • @GoBrand0n
      @GoBrand0n 2 года назад +17

      A Tune B58 is a whole new Beast

    • @thomasferrarojr.9772
      @thomasferrarojr.9772 2 года назад +4

      Except Alfa Romeo engines are even better. ;-)

    • @Jmarzx
      @Jmarzx 2 года назад +9

      @@thomasferrarojr.9772 is it really worth getting a quadrifolio over a m3/4

    • @thomasferrarojr.9772
      @thomasferrarojr.9772 2 года назад +5

      @@Jmarzx I believe so. Obviously, they're both amazing platforms. The Quadrifoglio just makes you feel more alive. It's an amazing machine. The steering, exhaust sound, handling. Man. To give you some perspective, I have a 911 GTS, and sometimes I reach for my Stelvio Quadrifoglio more than my 911. Something about Alfas!

    • @Jmarzx
      @Jmarzx 2 года назад

      @@thomasferrarojr.9772 damnn!!! That says a lot then!! Wow see I really am going to get one then . But I juat didnt like how when building a brand new one the options seem so limited. aha . Although imma build it .

  • @TheBreakfastLover
    @TheBreakfastLover 2 года назад +88

    The Redsport did well considering it's basically a generation behind the M240i. No shame in losing here. But Infiniti really needs to update their line-up though. Have there even been any test mules spotted yet? Or even new engines and transmissions in development?

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  2 года назад +9

      Nop

    • @S8ER
      @S8ER 2 года назад

      I think the EV push is going to stop any real engine development that wasn’t already well under way. No need for engines and transmissions in the new world and down here in the states California is pushing to end ICE sales as soon as possible (2035 is on the books and they are trying for 2030 cutoff now). I don’t think many companies will risk dumping R&D money going forward on anything other than EV stuff.

    • @jimwallace4164
      @jimwallace4164 2 года назад +21

      Nothing, unfortunately. Apparently they are in Stage of a 3 stage plan to refresh the brand. The VR30 will likely be their last ICE engine. Apparently the Q50 will be electrified and the Q60 is RIP. There was talk of Infiniti becoming "Nissan +" but there is some history and cache behind the Infiniti brand - its just going to evolve away from GT/Sport cars to battery powered putt putts and SUVs. Sigh....

    • @BN99239
      @BN99239 2 года назад +24

      The previous N55 engine would have still beat the redsport. That's just what it is.

    • @ftr911drvr
      @ftr911drvr 2 года назад +6

      Well it's the same engine as the "new" Z it's not really a generation behind as it's their current generation......the better argument might be it competes with the M440I not this lighter M240I which is quicker than the m440i. Either way price wise thse 2 compete so....

  • @francisgomes9976
    @francisgomes9976 2 года назад +119

    We have seen this movie play out before: Supra beating Nissan Z in every race

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 2 года назад +20

      Not quite. Upgrade the mediocre Bridgestones on the Z and they'll be even. Even with the mediocre Bridgestones on the Z and the supervisor Michelins on the Sup, they are still within 0.2s and 1mph in the 1/4mi.

    • @Genny2Turbos
      @Genny2Turbos 2 года назад +24

      Haha yep nissan z is trash lets go supra

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 2 года назад

      @@Genny2Turbos Zupra is trash. Let's go, legendary VR engines!

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 2 года назад +20

      @@Genny2Turbos The VR30 derived from the legendary VR38 - the Queen of Imports! Modded VR38s rule the import drag racing scene and is more potent than any BMW or Euro engine ever made. Name one modded BMW that can touch modded VR38s in the import drag racing scene. 😏 The only imports that can beat the modded VR38s are the 2JZ and RB26, nothing else!!! No BMW engines in the 100-yr history of BMW can touch modded VR38s. 😏😎

    • @Genny2Turbos
      @Genny2Turbos 2 года назад +13

      @@ytsux9259 VR engine sounds like shit the supra looks better anyways

  • @sirprince888
    @sirprince888 2 года назад +57

    The Ultimate Driving Machine takes this one. The M240 is just a better performing car and you can see the transmission has better response in the shifting compared the Q60s.... even though the Q60s has more hp. I like the looks of the Q60s (even with the outdated techs) but the BMW just can't be beat. Overall, great video!

    • @savedby_grace6110
      @savedby_grace6110 2 года назад +6

      Porsche....BMWs nightmare....lol

    • @JSchaefer93
      @JSchaefer93 2 года назад +2

      @@savedby_grace6110 true, only true rival is porsche and perhaps tesla if you wanted to throw EV's in

    • @harrybaulzack6934
      @harrybaulzack6934 Год назад

      @@JSchaefer93 merecedes?

    • @JSchaefer93
      @JSchaefer93 Год назад +5

      @@harrybaulzack6934 Performance speaking, mercedes doesn't compete with BMW anymore. Better Luxury than performance. BMW is better performance than luxury.

    • @mikhiranger8469
      @mikhiranger8469 Год назад +2

      @@savedby_grace6110 porsche also cost a billion dollars lol

  • @Maljey
    @Maljey 2 года назад +28

    I swear every turbo 6 cylinder car in this price range has underrated their hp and/or torque on paper. Well, with the exception of the TLX Type S...🤣

    • @jimwallace4164
      @jimwallace4164 2 года назад +15

      LOL, TLX Type S wins the bikini contest part of the fashion show though. Can't take eyes off it.

    • @tylercouture216
      @tylercouture216 2 года назад +2

      @@jimwallace4164 agreed sexy but the 🐈 is just ok

    • @SSH939
      @SSH939 2 года назад +2

      Stinger takes the cake portion. Tlx type s takes the front end

    • @randyragy4592
      @randyragy4592 2 года назад +3

      @@jimwallace4164 have at agree. they look insanely good.

    • @alj7094
      @alj7094 Год назад +1

      Everybody else: Slightly overrates their V6 Turbo models
      Acura: Gets so much hate for claiming accurate power figures 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Mistadontplay89
    @Mistadontplay89 2 года назад +12

    The extra weight and the transmission let the Infiniti down.

  • @ganuv
    @ganuv 2 года назад +47

    The b58 is a way stronger engine and power is underrated in reality more like 410 hp also the ZF transmission in the BM is by far better and faster then in the infinity. Conclusion the M240 is the more superior car.

    • @drsnowmon
      @drsnowmon 2 года назад +1

      German cars ALWAYS underrate their HP, it's a known fact
      Japanese cars just cannot compete with German transmission, also a fact

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 2 года назад +5

      and the Q60 is junk, it has a SUPER old trash transmission and is a 10+ year old vehicle/platform.. also, it does not make 400WHP stock, supras don;t put down 400whp.. it's underrated, but not GTI levels of underrated. also a lighter, much dorkier looking vehicle. I like the m240i but the styling was where they dropped the ball, no wonder the rear end gets so many comments about its ugliness

    • @drsnowmon
      @drsnowmon 2 года назад +3

      @@roboticvenom1935 I mean can you blame Nissan? There are idiots out there still buying ancient platforms for the sake of badge loyalty

    • @StanMarshimportskillUSjunk
      @StanMarshimportskillUSjunk 2 года назад +6

      @@roboticvenom1935 you know nothing about cars. Q60 >any VW

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 2 года назад +1

      @@drsnowmon LMFAO exactly, I see people on 400z forums doing the same because they have a 350z(lol 400z is on same platform p much, hence the heavy weight and old chassis). Even though supra claps it, and the lower 40k 400z has junk brakes, an OPEN diff(WTF), no dual exhaust, no rays wheels, and is sparse.

  • @texasstuff1281
    @texasstuff1281 2 года назад +62

    The Bimmers are beasts (I drive an M340) but that Infiniti is no slouch.

    • @jackd232
      @jackd232 2 года назад

      what's your 0-62(100km/h) time, bro

    • @Ruxl21
      @Ruxl21 2 года назад +1

      Also 2020 M340xi and I love it. Probably like 3.8 0-60 stock with cool weather. And with Jb4 cool weather low humid like 3.4 0-60.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 2 года назад

      and the Q60 is junk, it has a SUPER old trash transmission and is a 10+ year old vehicle/platform.. also, it does not make 400WHP stock, supras don;t put down 400whp.. it's underrated, but not GTI levels of underrated. also a lighter, much dorkier looking vehicle. I like the m240i but the styling was where they dropped the ball, no wonder the rear end gets so many comments about its ugliness. This Infiniti is a slouch, it gets beaten by the way cheaper kia stinger..

    • @jz7551
      @jz7551 Год назад

      BMW underrates every single car they make. These M240s are about 400hp at the wheels,STOCK, about 440hp at the crank, more than the Infiniti.

  • @rickyricardo9166
    @rickyricardo9166 2 года назад +19

    I had Bimmers all my life, great great cars. Today I drive a Q60S RS, and I love it! Yes, it is an old platforms and BMW is always pushing the technology in their cars, so still happy with the RS performance!!

  • @jimwallace4164
    @jimwallace4164 2 года назад +11

    Great to see this uploaded! and I'm totally biased but the Q looks so good in this video! Thanks again for giving me the chance to keep up with the Bimmar!

    • @Brian_RobinsonK11
      @Brian_RobinsonK11 2 года назад +3

      It was a good race! Still love that colour Jim.

    • @jimwallace4164
      @jimwallace4164 2 года назад +3

      @@Brian_RobinsonK11 Thanks! I loved it initially, fell out of love with it and have worked back up to really liking it. Q60s are so rare now due to lack of sales, so having an even more limited spec feels nice.

    • @Brian_RobinsonK11
      @Brian_RobinsonK11 2 года назад +3

      @@jimwallace4164 I agree! I never really see Red Sports, 50 or 60!

    • @TheLawIX
      @TheLawIX 2 года назад +2

      @@Brian_RobinsonK11 Slate Grey is even more beautiful in person. Changes colors depending on blackout and lighting.

    • @erijavec
      @erijavec 2 года назад +1

      Awesome cars, awesome race 👏👏👏👏👏

  • @madpistol
    @madpistol 2 года назад +40

    I'm a massive B58 fan, but I think the transmission in the Q60 RS is letting it down a bit. Put a better transmission in the Infiniti, and I bet it's neck and neck.

    • @SS1LE_Urien
      @SS1LE_Urien 2 года назад +10

      Needs the 9 Speed from the Z

    • @djivan831
      @djivan831 2 года назад

      @@SS1LE_Urien 💯💯💯

    • @alstound
      @alstound 2 года назад +1

      Nah, engines are still worlds apart.

    • @denisstepanov1327
      @denisstepanov1327 2 года назад +1

      its allready neck and neck

    • @JuanVega-uc1cn
      @JuanVega-uc1cn Год назад

      @@alstound a good trans make a huge difference like the mustang with the new 10 speed trans is more fast that the old 6 speed and is the same coyote 5.0

  • @flightman7594
    @flightman7594 2 года назад +35

    Wow if only the Q60 and q50 red sport had a good transmission the car really would be different. Put a dct or a zf in it would be interesting to see

    • @tylercouture216
      @tylercouture216 2 года назад +6

      Definitely my friend had a pretty modded one and the trans would get sleepy when it came time to shift

    • @djivan831
      @djivan831 2 года назад +11

      Once these VR30’s are tuned, they are absolute beasts! Love my Racebox Sauce 🔥🔥🔥

    • @jimwallace4164
      @jimwallace4164 2 года назад +9

      What the 7 speed does though, it take a lot of abuse - high HP numbers from FBO and tune modifications. Old and sloppy is true but the Q60, out of the box was never intended to be a high performance car. Its a great GT car with comfortable power. The transmission shifts nice under load and soft when you're chill. I totally get what the competition is doing with DCT's and PDK's and ZF units out there and its exposing the weakness of the torque converted old 7 speed unit.

    • @restlessyouthproductions
      @restlessyouthproductions 2 года назад +3

      @@jimwallace4164 Great comment and observation

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 2 года назад

      @@jimwallace4164 it's junk

  • @chrissmith-rv5ro
    @chrissmith-rv5ro 2 года назад +4

    I used to own an infiniti, their power numbers are fiction, BMW numbers are at the wheels.

  • @ripsphone
    @ripsphone 2 года назад +6

    I own a '22 M240i. 2 things....BMW has dramatically understated the HP. The are videos showing it putting down 400 to the wheels. #2, launch control is nuts and I suspect they are over boosting it. It pulls like a fright train for an alleged 380hp.
    I can also say this, the full fledged M2 is going to be BONKERS

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 2 года назад

      and the Q60 is junk, it has a SUPER old trash transmission and is a 10+ year old vehicle/platform.. also, it does not make 400WHP stock, supras don;t put down 400whp.. it's underrated, but not GTI levels of underrated. also a lighter, much dorkier looking vehicle. I like the m240i but the styling was where they dropped the ball, no wonder the rear end gets so many comments about its ugliness

  • @b_moneygo4515
    @b_moneygo4515 2 года назад +5

    I still get Q60, hope they update it next year

  • @anthonyb2426
    @anthonyb2426 2 года назад +3

    For the Infiniti, if you just make your own launch control with brake/gas it jumps hard off the line. From a roll I found manually putting it in the right gear, flooring it, then popping it back to auto for it to handle the shifts worked best. 4th from a 60

  • @marinelo4859
    @marinelo4859 2 года назад +9

    BMW always delivers more than advertised. And is the most performance oriented EU brand.

    • @robb5828
      @robb5828 2 года назад +6

      Porsche?

    • @ozzy_fromhell
      @ozzy_fromhell 2 года назад +1

      Ferrari? Maybe Aston Martin

    • @robb5828
      @robb5828 2 года назад

      @@ozzy_fromhell No and No.While they do have performance cars....They don't represent the word,,performance,, like Porsche does,if you know what i mean. I mean take a look at Nurburgring,Porsche is the car of choice for many

    • @ozzy_fromhell
      @ozzy_fromhell 2 года назад

      @@robb5828 then what is ford vrs Ferrari Ferrari can obviously be a track car

    • @robb5828
      @robb5828 2 года назад

      @@ozzy_fromhell everyone can have a track car,but none of them offers you what Porsche offers you. It's that complete package for a driver.

  • @texasyank48
    @texasyank48 2 года назад +4

    The BMW’s fuel economy also trounces the Red Sport: 23/32 versus the Red Sport’s 20/27.

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 2 года назад +1

      and the Q60 is junk, it has a SUPER old trash transmission and is a 10+ year old vehicle/platform.. also, it does not make 400WHP stock, supras don;t put down 400whp.. it's underrated, but not GTI levels of underrated. also a lighter, much dorkier looking vehicle. I like the m240i but the styling was where they dropped the ball, no wonder the rear end gets so many comments about its ugliness. This Infiniti is a slouch, it gets beaten by the way cheaper kia stinger..

  • @hotdawg85
    @hotdawg85 2 года назад +8

    We need to run the stinger vs Q60 redsport back.

  • @hartsickdisciple
    @hartsickdisciple 2 года назад +9

    The B58 in the new M240i is making 420+ horsepower at the crank. BMW's published horsepower ratings are closer to what they make at the wheels. It's been that way for over a decade. This was a pretty good showing by the Q60, considering.

    • @jz7551
      @jz7551 Год назад

      more like 440hp at the crank

  • @gabrieljohnson5077
    @gabrieljohnson5077 2 года назад +14

    I’ve raced a couple M240is in my Q60RS. If the Q had launch control it’d be a lot closer, the launch on the M240s is just unholy.

    • @PapiAndrey
      @PapiAndrey 2 года назад +2

      The new ones are quicker than the old ones

    • @samuelreid603
      @samuelreid603 2 года назад +4

      Yeah the new m240i launched so violently..did one last week..bout had a headache 😫

    • @dennyo661
      @dennyo661 2 года назад

      Q60 tranny is old and junk, likely cause for losing even with more hp

    • @nexushexus4365
      @nexushexus4365 Год назад

      Get real, it needs a lot more than launch mode.

  • @sneekyturbo_AMG
    @sneekyturbo_AMG 2 года назад +4

    Happy Canada Day Sam! 🇨🇦 👍

  • @ivanq9643
    @ivanq9643 2 года назад +12

    Transmission is the only thing holding back these vr30s, it’s so clunky

  • @BEE5HEMIPALAZ
    @BEE5HEMIPALAZ 2 года назад +3

    That BMW 3 liter makes at least 420 hp easy

  • @7g6_66
    @7g6_66 2 года назад +3

    The reason why the second roll race was so much closer was because the transmission was able to be in a lower gear compared to the first roll which started in 3rd gear which seemed odd

    • @jimwallace4579
      @jimwallace4579 2 года назад +2

      That, and power band. VR does generate decent top end.

  • @motaz1975
    @motaz1975 2 года назад +6

    nissan got smoked. what i guessed would happen.

  • @albertperales7247
    @albertperales7247 2 года назад +3

    Awesome race and props to the BMW owner. Those heavy awd Qs need a little more boost than the factory provides in order to keep up with these lighter cars.

    • @yorkiepit
      @yorkiepit Год назад

      Doesn't apply here, the BMW 240 ix curb weight is 3871, the Q60 RS is 9 pounds lighter at 3862.

    • @jz7551
      @jz7551 Год назад

      BMW underrates every single car they make. These M240s are about 400hp at the wheels,STOCK, about 440hp at the crank, more than the Infiniti.

  • @nhlanhlamagagula7467
    @nhlanhlamagagula7467 2 года назад +10

    Great review..that B58 is a monster

    • @roboticvenom1935
      @roboticvenom1935 2 года назад

      and the Q60 is junk, it has a SUPER old trash transmission and is a 10+ year old vehicle/platform.. also, it does not make 400WHP stock, supras don;t put down 400whp.. it's underrated, but not GTI levels of underrated. also a lighter, much dorkier looking vehicle. I like the m240i but the styling was where they dropped the ball, no wonder the rear end gets so many comments about its ugliness. This Infiniti is a slouch, it gets beaten by the way cheaper kia stinger..

  • @bobaphat3676
    @bobaphat3676 2 года назад +2

    BMW has stepped their performance game to new levels. Back in the e9x generation, the competition was seriously kicking their arse when it came to NA non-M engines. Nissan's VQ an toyotas 2GR were ahead of BMWs N52 in terms of power output.

    • @jimwallace4164
      @jimwallace4164 2 года назад +1

      Totally agree, this current inline 6 B58 is next level.

    • @fry.master
      @fry.master 2 года назад

      e9x generation brought the n54, which hammered every vq into the dirt for miles. e46 generation is what you're thinkin of. m54b30 was the creme of the e46 crop, and it was a lukewarm 220hp motor about the same level of slow as a DE.

    • @bobaphat3676
      @bobaphat3676 2 года назад

      @@fry.master yeh but if you re-read my comment I was referring to the Naturally Aspirated non-M engines BMW produced at that time. The N54 being a twin-turbo is a different ball game, and it was rushed to be honest...it was plagued with many issues, although a powerful engine.
      Granted the N52 didn't really compete with the VQ37, it still wasn't as impressive as the the VQ which is arguably the best NA V6 ever produced.

    • @fry.master
      @fry.master 2 года назад

      @@bobaphat3676 to me the n52 was the mastered version of the m54 the e46 deserved, just too late. The vq has good power but also uses more displacement and packaging… I dunno. I’d rather boost a budget built m54 than vq de, for sure.the stock ecu on the m54 can be boosted on.
      The very early n54s were tough imo, I own two 07 cars, built in late 06. One 120k mile, other 230k :)

  • @allanhood8402
    @allanhood8402 2 года назад +5

    That ZF 8 speed is the best auto. Around

    • @Cryptodegen2A
      @Cryptodegen2A 2 года назад +1

      Definitely the best torque converter auto trans. There are some outstanding DCT’s out there but they often suck in traffic.

  • @Terrarium86
    @Terrarium86 7 месяцев назад

    He sounded like Arnold when he said Wow! Lol

  • @ks-bg5uk
    @ks-bg5uk 2 года назад +2

    240s are fast but the q put up a fight. Would love to see the new Golf R race some of these cars.

    • @thefastforte2854
      @thefastforte2854 Год назад

      A stock golf r? Nah man....they did that. Totally diff class.

  • @benbarnard8280
    @benbarnard8280 2 года назад +3

    Bmw never gives the true specs on there cars, many road test on this M240 have convirmed this, it is time someone puts a M240 on a dyno, I am convinced they make over 400 horsepower.

  • @gregwiens35
    @gregwiens35 2 года назад +1

    Sam, liked 👍 looks like you figured out how to add your logo finally to the subscribe animation. That blank red circle was bugging me :)

  • @balmainattitude
    @balmainattitude 2 года назад +1

    Infiniti if you are watching and you should be: PLEASE UPDATE YOUR ENTIRE LINE UP. Your cars are such a slap in the face with so much potential but old technology.

  • @matthewhix7643
    @matthewhix7643 2 года назад +1

    Need better drivers. I drive a Q60RS always in manual mode to use the paddle shifters which are more responsive than regular auto plus the gears hold longer. I've need been out preformed from a dig lol.

  • @airman20012001
    @airman20012001 Год назад +1

    BMW just makes some bad ass cars

  • @joewhatsup
    @joewhatsup 2 года назад +1

    Great video, thanks!

  • @trelltheguy
    @trelltheguy 2 года назад +10

    I love when yu post infiniti Content because I'm a infiniti boy infiniti boy I like my VQ's and my VR's yeahhhh 😂🤣

  • @jp23x
    @jp23x 2 года назад +1

    And this is exactly why Nissan is nuts for wanting 51k for the Z. It doesn't offer the performance to match the price.

    • @GoBrand0n
      @GoBrand0n 2 года назад

      You're absolutely right

  • @najoulamy
    @najoulamy 2 года назад +2

    The q50 just needs more torque a lil bit better top end and a better transmission and we good

    • @Blue-moon12
      @Blue-moon12 2 года назад +3

      And a little lighter....haha. So not a lot then 🤣

  • @Brian_RobinsonK11
    @Brian_RobinsonK11 2 года назад +4

    Was that a press car Sam?

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  2 года назад +3

      Yes sir :)

    • @Brian_RobinsonK11
      @Brian_RobinsonK11 2 года назад +4

      I’d love a chance to avenge Jim’s loss in the battle of Viewers cars vs Press cars! 🏁

    • @jimwallace4164
      @jimwallace4164 2 года назад +3

      @@Brian_RobinsonK11 I want to avenge my L against the benchmark RS5 coupe. Car has undergone some FBO and I think I could keep up better now with ya!

    • @Brian_RobinsonK11
      @Brian_RobinsonK11 2 года назад +2

      @@jimwallace4164 that would be interesting to see for sure!!

  • @vaibhavprakash
    @vaibhavprakash 2 года назад

    “It took some time for it to shift” on the contrary being at least 2 cars length ahead from the infinity apparently it’s “not far ahead” so sometimes milliseconds count but seconds don’t

  • @tonyfastboy
    @tonyfastboy 2 года назад +1

    I didn’t even watch the race but man that Q60 looks sexy

  • @LoXHumaN
    @LoXHumaN 2 года назад

    There’s way too many angles and cuts included per race, also why did you stop using the dragy? Signal issues?

  • @forwhomthebelltolls7918
    @forwhomthebelltolls7918 2 года назад +1

    My dude, new frames need analyzing @ 1:50. I wish Premiere didn't export with the text, it would make more sense to export without the text but prompt a warning.

  • @d.khoung359
    @d.khoung359 2 года назад +1

    BMW under rates their horsepower. The m240 is fast!

  • @garchomp889
    @garchomp889 2 года назад +1

    Q60 is beyond outdated, looks amazing though don’t get me wrong. The interior definitely needs a step up, and also VR30 doesn’t sound the best. But man it does look good

  • @scottroberts5529
    @scottroberts5529 2 года назад +1

    You should compare the m440 against that infinity probably same results

  • @07wrxtr1
    @07wrxtr1 2 года назад

    Sam - is the new Z anywhere on the horizon!? That's gonna make for a SOLID minimum of five to ten great videos!! I have HIGH expectations for YOU, the car - I bet will be about the same or slightly faster than the BMW here....

  • @Tachyon836
    @Tachyon836 Месяц назад

    B58 usually wins in the end, but the vr30 is pretty close given how much cheaper it is.

  • @fun40sxx
    @fun40sxx 2 года назад +1

    The Q60 should be manually shifting earlier. It’s a known fact that they don’t make power at redline.

    • @DacAL_8
      @DacAL_8 Год назад

      I used to own 2 Q50’s non redsport (2018) and Redsport (2019) both AWD , both ecutek tuned. Shifting this around 6.5k rpm is the sweet spot…

  • @jaydaley1294
    @jaydaley1294 2 года назад

    Great video. Out of interest, what tyres were you running on the BMW?

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  2 года назад

      Stock

    • @M340B58
      @M340B58 2 года назад

      @@SamCarLegion there are all season run flats or dedicated summer Michelin Pilot Sport 4S. I think that's what he was asking

    • @jaydaley1294
      @jaydaley1294 2 года назад

      @@SamCarLegion Thanks. Checking they weren’t winters.

  • @automotivetv9861
    @automotivetv9861 2 года назад +5

    i'm still taking the q60

  • @tylercouture216
    @tylercouture216 2 года назад +1

    That has to be making closer to 382 wheel bmw always rates at the wheels but puts it out there as crank horsepower this trend started with the 2011 and up BMWs as my E60 m5 made 432 wheel stock

    • @PapiAndrey
      @PapiAndrey 2 года назад

      It started with their turbocharged motors. Audi underrated their forced induction motors too

    • @tylercouture216
      @tylercouture216 2 года назад

      @@PapiAndrey you are correct technically I know they went all out on turbo in 2011 and beyond. Audi is known for this also as their launches do not represent the number on paper lol quite vicious

    • @PapiAndrey
      @PapiAndrey 2 года назад

      @@tylercouture216 the G-chassis M240i has an overboost function when you use launch control and it gets an even harder launch

  • @whosdondada
    @whosdondada 2 года назад +5

    Q60 needs the new transmission from the Z

    • @jimwallace4164
      @jimwallace4164 2 года назад +1

      Not gonna happen, Q60 is discontinued, but yes, your original thought is spot on. I'm sure someone out there will swap it into the Q60.

    • @whosdondada
      @whosdondada 2 года назад

      @@jimwallace4164 i know. They're going electric...

    • @AQCE245
      @AQCE245 2 года назад

      Infinity needs to die all together, After the G37 infinity went down hill

    • @jimwallace4164
      @jimwallace4164 2 года назад +1

      @@AQCE245 If you can't spell the brand name, correctly, then please don't write the obituary.

    • @AQCE245
      @AQCE245 2 года назад

      @@jimwallace4164 I'm sry I'm not writing a fucking novel its you tube comment section 🤣🤣, infiniti went to garbage after The VQ37HR, the new Vr30TT Is garbage yeah it makes power with shit ton of bolt on but the Reliability is terrible way better option out there I love my G37 I rather get a BMW 3351 m package my second car make way more power for less money

  • @theotaalliance4923
    @theotaalliance4923 2 года назад +3

    Q60 q50 will always be shit no match for b58

    • @lexman8678
      @lexman8678 2 года назад

      What a load of shit I easily smoke those BMW's with my skyline 350gt hybrid and nobody in nz is buying those ugly model BMW's lol

  • @GodKing804
    @GodKing804 2 года назад +1

    My 2014 535i xDrive stage 1 took a Q60S by a bus length lol. Not sure if bmw hp is under rated or that gearbox on the Q60S kills the power

    • @mrbubblebuns3994
      @mrbubblebuns3994 Год назад

      so, your modded turbo car beat a stock car, cool story bro.

    • @GodKing804
      @GodKing804 Год назад

      @Mr bubble buns thanks, most people do think it's cool and old and underpowered BMW with a flash can gap a modern "sports" car from infinti. Glad you also found it cool.

  • @vladdutz20
    @vladdutz20 2 года назад

    I recently filmed a 240xi but i couldn't skip the fact that the non European spec without gpf sounds better
    But be aware that b58 is more powerful than the official bmw statement, that's why the car is faster

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 2 года назад +1

      Why are the Germans always lying about stats?

  • @kevinray9398
    @kevinray9398 2 года назад

    Please tell me what watch your wearing? Thing is fire Sam

  • @MrM4rvelous
    @MrM4rvelous 2 года назад +18

    Yeah, despite the results I'd still take the q60. It's much sexier especially in this spec. 🥵🇨🇦 Thanks for the Canada day special, entertaining video!

    • @Toymonkeyjr
      @Toymonkeyjr 2 года назад +1

      Yeah it sucks that they turned the 2 series into an ugly car and made it heavy, which was literally the thing that set it apart from other bmw's with the lower weight and shorter wheelbase.

    • @MrM4rvelous
      @MrM4rvelous 2 года назад

      @@Toymonkeyjr it's really not attractive! In my eyes, anyway.

    • @Toymonkeyjr
      @Toymonkeyjr 2 года назад +1

      @@MrM4rvelous Yeah, I'm not a q60 fan, but put it next to the new 240i and it looks like a race car

    • @cornholioyo725
      @cornholioyo725 2 года назад +2

      @@MrM4rvelous problem is , the Q60 is based of the same platform that the g37 coupe was based on and that was based on the g35. I have a 2013 G37xS coupe so not hating on them i love them. But i just wished infiniti put the money into a whole new chassis . The 2003 infiniti g35 coupe was a huge success so if they put the money into a new chassis for the g37 , the Q60 would of also benefited from it .

  • @abulhashem-jc9mv
    @abulhashem-jc9mv 2 года назад +1

    Awesome race! Put that GTR against whatever 😂

  • @Caydendayoutuber
    @Caydendayoutuber 2 года назад +2

    The Bimmer is at least 420hp.

  • @PsychicMedium4747
    @PsychicMedium4747 2 года назад

    Damn I am 6’4 in stature…would I fit comfortably in the bmw?

  • @_Ambition124
    @_Ambition124 2 года назад +2

    TTRS vs M240i

  • @jimj785
    @jimj785 2 года назад +1

    SRT NEXT?

  • @thecarsectionthecarsection6420
    @thecarsectionthecarsection6420 2 года назад

    One of the rules in racing don't wave bye bye unless you winning or have a nice gap.

    • @jimwallace4164
      @jimwallace4164 2 года назад

      It was more of a wave hello since I actually managed to keep up on the final 100 roll race.

  • @XObimmer
    @XObimmer 2 года назад +1

    We all know that B58 > VR30

  • @______-im2cn
    @______-im2cn 2 года назад +1

    japanese vs german my money is on german everytime

  • @07wrxtr1
    @07wrxtr1 2 года назад

    Is this the same Q60s owner that's "dead set" on not getting a tune to help with the line pressure on the transmission?

    • @jimwallace4164
      @jimwallace4164 2 года назад

      Dead set? With 2000miles/3200 kms on the car. Yea dead set until the warranty is up. FBO in progress though.

  • @thedadlife247
    @thedadlife247 Год назад +1

    tobehonest the bmw was marginally faster but the bmw cost a lot more i would take the q

  • @frankcastle1578
    @frankcastle1578 2 года назад

    My favorite part is when he says: NONALASS!!

  • @mqbr22
    @mqbr22 2 года назад +1

    Infinity is junk. Used to be cool back in the day but not anymore

  • @daison96
    @daison96 2 года назад +4

    Seems like the almighty Red Sport lost.
    Good!
    It's nauseating how Infiniti fans constantly praise this car.

    • @Tachyon836
      @Tachyon836 Год назад

      It's just because it's sooo much cheaper than similar cars

  • @cj41079
    @cj41079 2 года назад +1

    if that redsport is AWD then it is 200lbs heavier than M240i Xdrive.....there is the difference and also Bmer known for low balling HP and TQ numbers as usual....

    • @Mikeymike9455
      @Mikeymike9455 2 года назад

      The infiniti was 200 more pounds and 20 less tq was still impressive. If the q60 was around 3500-3800 with 10 more tq will make a difference. I own a RCF and that thing was 4000 lbs, the car was very planted and feel heavy ass hell

  • @cartmans8193
    @cartmans8193 Год назад

    price difference? I bet the infinity is like $10,000 cheaper

  • @YAsM-bk5kz
    @YAsM-bk5kz 2 года назад

    Nice race but BMW cars are difficult to be beat.
    Sam PLZ try g70 vs is500

  • @Lifeofshawnyg
    @Lifeofshawnyg Год назад

    Its kind of weird to see bmw boys get happy about this the infiniti is generation to generations behind and obviously weighs more if there was a new 2023 q60rs would beat this but in fair comparison to really know witch is faster bring same gens together and test witch car has best tuning capabilities and runs before and after tune and the reliability of the mods and how long the cars can last modded infiniti wins in all of those aspects its just the simple facts of bmw being newer and weighing less

  • @GODiscomingsoonagain
    @GODiscomingsoonagain 2 года назад +1

    Real japan oldschool roots Z is the way to go. Q60 is heavy but still do good. Z proof to be under 4 sec with sticky tires whitout zf trany !

    • @kingGfour
      @kingGfour 2 года назад

      Well the 400z has a Mercedes benz transmission so yea lol

  • @boostedscooby1
    @boostedscooby1 2 года назад

    Surprise surprise Bmw underrates their motor specs once again.

  • @elenchus
    @elenchus 2 года назад +1

    man BMWs are getting heavy. The 2-Series is supposed to be their small, lightweight sports coupe and it's approaching 3,900 pounds. Their roadster with the same engine and RWD is now pushing 3,500 pounds. I also find it interesting that the VR looked way more responsive on the roll than the B58...I might normally attribute that to a faster gearbox (not sure if they were in gear already, no audio) but there's no way the aging 7-speed in the Infiniti was faster than the ZF in the BMW.

    • @Mikeymike9455
      @Mikeymike9455 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, infiniti was 200 pounds more and 20 less tq and wasn't even far behind

    • @elenchus
      @elenchus 2 года назад +1

      @@Mikeymike9455 and it's too heavy too, but at least it's not supposed to be some thoroughbred sports car, it's a big GT cruiser. You can also get it in RWD and then it would be lighter (I think eventually you'll be able to order the M240i in RWD too, in fairness, just not this year, at least in the US)

    • @kenoh818
      @kenoh818 2 года назад +1

      That's an awful trend that BMW has entered in.

    • @samuelreid603
      @samuelreid603 2 года назад +1

      @@elenchus think your right..i got my m240i in May (order it in January) with the xdrive awd system..think the rwd version of the 240i will be out next year along with the new M2

    • @elenchus
      @elenchus 2 года назад +1

      @@samuelreid603 yeah I'm pretty interested in it, although as it gets fatter the 718 looks more and more appealing, despite its flat four

  • @wadysawsowinski9910
    @wadysawsowinski9910 Год назад

    German cars hp are often underrated when japan or us are overrated.

  • @Crusher103
    @Crusher103 Год назад

    When is Nissan going to do something about that transmission? The car is literally being held back by the transmission.

  • @jamescox1806
    @jamescox1806 2 года назад +1

    I'm starting to believe that when BMW rates their horsepower, it's at the wheels and not the crank? LOL

  • @Bigguns761
    @Bigguns761 Год назад

    do the m240i zdrive vs that camaro ZL1

  • @tsampson1632
    @tsampson1632 2 года назад +1

    Xdrive more than makes up for the power difference.

  • @mcwendel8066
    @mcwendel8066 2 года назад

    It’s crazy how much everything weighs! That BMW coupe weighs 500lbs more than my Golf Alltrack Wagon lol

    • @jimwallace4164
      @jimwallace4164 2 года назад +1

      Its really is, all the electronic gizmos and fancy interiors add so much weight.

  • @oemj7147
    @oemj7147 2 года назад +2

    The BMW is cheaper and faster.

  • @shad3128
    @shad3128 2 года назад

    Not bad from the infiniti for being pretty outdated compared to the m sport which is pretty much the latest and greatest. That purple is a pretty sick colorv

  • @FrostyG87
    @FrostyG87 2 года назад +1

    Dude this m240i makes 380whp and over 400tq they underrated the shit out of it, that infiniti transmission is trash, its heavier and makes less whp and tq so yea I expected this outcome lol i like that new m240i tho

  • @CM-jm6ui
    @CM-jm6ui 2 года назад

    Can we get the q60 rs vs the 440i🌚

  • @derrickward7128
    @derrickward7128 2 года назад +1

    Lmao he’s doing a 32 mph from 3rd gear..?and it went back into regular Drive mode somehow? Still did better than i thought but thats all weird.

    • @calebmantel1619
      @calebmantel1619 2 года назад

      2nd gear would've been appropriate. 3rd is a better choice from 60.

  • @napraznicul
    @napraznicul 2 года назад +1

    infinity, lexus, acura and anything like those aren't fast cars, gearbox ratios and software is set having comfort as main goal. They will always LOOSE against ANY car of comparable power to weight ratio.

    • @avis1978
      @avis1978 2 года назад +2

      What do you mean aren't fast? Just because the bmw did the 1/4 mile in 0.2 sec quicker doesn't mean that the Q60S is slow. It's still a very fast vehicle. They both have a top speed of over 270.

    • @jp23x
      @jp23x 2 года назад

      @@avis1978 japanese cars literally are not fast when compared to the competition. With the exception of the GTR, these cars will lose each and every race.

    • @avis1978
      @avis1978 2 года назад +1

      @@jp23x it's still doesn't make them a slow car 😀. A slow car is a toyota Corolla.

    • @Cryptodegen2A
      @Cryptodegen2A 2 года назад

      2022 Supra, nsx etc. can hang with most cars in their segment of market. even the 08 isf was beating up on a lot of performance sedans in its day. Hell I had a friend with an 08 ISF that was running very low 12’s with a muffler delete. The aftermarket sucked for Lexus when he had it so it wasn’t really mod-able.

    • @napraznicul
      @napraznicul 2 года назад

      @@Cryptodegen2A those are cars mostly from '90, engineered even before. No tenth of screens and comfort bullshit on it. I was talking above about recent cars, not COLLECTORS cars which are those that you have mentioned above.

  • @xorbitman
    @xorbitman 2 года назад

    Not a fan of the Q60 RS especially the interior ergonomics and that crappy infotainment system. And I'm not a fan of the rear of that Bimmer. I can tell you one thing though. You can do a lot of bolt ons for that Q60 and a dyno tune and push upwards of 500 HP. I'll bet you the new 400 Z will be a better match and nicer looking vehicle. If you try to push that bimmer you could end up with a lot of problems....just saying.

  • @aymanlockhartable
    @aymanlockhartable 2 года назад +4

    Nice race! Like to see modified G37/370Z twin turbo in a race!

    • @Pro-habits
      @Pro-habits 2 года назад +1

      I feel the g serious is faster & reliable with right mods & tunes

    • @glistud8178
      @glistud8178 2 года назад +2

      The b58 in that bmw is 10000% easily moddebale and better for modding

    • @ecmfreestyle
      @ecmfreestyle 2 года назад +1

      @@Pro-habits Nissan doesn’t have a shot! The b58 is by far and I mean by FAR the better engine! For little money the B58 can be close 600hp with bolt ons and a tune..no other car manufacturer comes close to that 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @colelucas5936
      @colelucas5936 2 года назад +1

      @@ecmfreestyle my 94 supra puts 715 to the wheels, FBO e85. No BMW engine can come close to the 2jz

    • @ecmfreestyle
      @ecmfreestyle 2 года назад

      @@colelucas5936 good for you! We are talking about Infiniti vs BMW…and how much did you spend to get 715whp? I have a 08 335 e92 with a N54 making close to 500..for around $1400 you can go from 300 crank to over 450whp…what other car from factory is doing that? 2jz is cool and all but BMW can’t be beat in that dept! I’m sure you needed A big single, injectors, pump, boost controller, fuel management so aftermarket ecu, ect..what are you all in for? 6k-7k?..

  • @javioncaffey3421
    @javioncaffey3421 2 года назад

    Do a mustang eco boost vs kia k5 gt

  • @johnsingleton1924
    @johnsingleton1924 2 года назад +1

    2 car companies that doesn't mean shit to me: Lexus & Infiniti...these maker's have been around a while now and haven't mastered shit..Benz known for Luxury, Bimmer: Performance, Audi: Quattro & Styling.....Lexus & Infiniti: NOTHING....just jokes of an automaker! Dodge Ass too, their the Gimmick of automakers..just thought I'd throw that in🤣

    • @texasstuff1281
      @texasstuff1281 2 года назад

      Wow, you're edgy.

    • @avis1978
      @avis1978 2 года назад +1

      Why nothing? Lexus= reliability. Something that the Germans doesn't have. For some it's more important. I would take an LAF over any BMW\Mercedes and even an R8.

  • @latino914
    @latino914 2 года назад +1

    Wanted the VR30 to win but nothing to be ashamed for losing to the mighty B58 💪.

    • @colelucas5936
      @colelucas5936 2 года назад +4

      its the 7 speed transmission that holds it back

    • @latino914
      @latino914 2 года назад +3

      @@colelucas5936 totally agree

    • @lexman8678
      @lexman8678 2 года назад

      @@colelucas5936 bullshit my hybrid skyline 350gt has the 7 speed and I can guarantee it would smoke that bmw seeing as its a different version of the 7 speed and its lighter than the q60 awd as well

    • @colelucas5936
      @colelucas5936 2 года назад

      @@lexman8678 I have a FBO q50 with the same transmission. Unless you are highly modified, The B58 with the ZF 8 speed runs 12.3 in the quarter

    • @AQCE245
      @AQCE245 2 года назад

      @@colelucas5936 Nissan is holding it back it’s never getting that transmission because Nissan discontinued the Q60 lineup, The VQ37HR was the last thing Nissan ever did and then it went all down hill

  • @LOGICAL-JAY
    @LOGICAL-JAY 12 дней назад

    Damn, the M is just destroying the red sport..it just keeps pulling away..a few years ago those new bmw engines made me a believer ...lol😅

  • @dute007
    @dute007 2 года назад +1

    rs should have dct on this = game over...