Marvel's Failed K-Pop Hero [Luna Snow]
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Marvel's k-pop hero, Luna Snow, had the potential to be the next big Marvel sensation, but they dropped the ball hard...
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Tags: #Marvel #MarvelRivals #LunaSnow 
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When the roster for Marvel Rivals was revealed, everyone looked at Luna and said: "Who the fuck are you?"
I thought she was an original character solely for the game at first
Funny she was an original character for another game
It's funny cause i'm like cool but why is the Marvel Future Fight original here?
I knew her from future fight
For me my reaction was like “Wait, is that Luna Snow?!?!” The only girl in marvel I know who has ice powers.
hi! a veteran Marvel Future Fight player here!
the funny thing about Luna Snow in game is that she is consistently buffed by the dev team, which always puts her in the top meta position since her debut. so in game Luna is literal must-have character for all players, therefore boosts her popularity ingame a lot
she's not entirely paywalled, since new players can pick her up through a one-time premium character selector. but then the devs half-paywall her by lock her power under a skin that only sells once a year during christmas. it's very dumb to promote your own original character while also half-paywalling her like that
so not just marvel, the future fight game also lets her down by paywalling the character. this girl DESERVES better
Just a little correction - her new uniform is paywalled and can only be accessed every summer.
Nevertheless, her being consistently buffed and her being top meta in the game whenever that happens is probably the reason why players love her in that game. Setting aside the issue of mobile games thriving of predatory practices with their in-game currencies - even if you fork in the money, you get the most bang for your buck in the PVE side of the game just by simply building her up to the max.
@@gawain9534 oh yes i mistook it, thank you
You can get her for free from dimension mission.
I absolutely love Luna's design and backstory, now if only her stories were good...
There’s room to grow
@@madnessarcade7447And I hope she does grow.
she had comics?
@@dontknowdontknow9769 Yes her debut one shot and then as member of the new Agents of Atlas
@@starburner309let me rewrite that she has solo comics beside the origin?
Guarantee she’s heading for the MCU in the near future. Her showing up in Rivals just seems like Marvel testing that comic/game/movie synergy
Omg I found you in the wild wth
Probably more likely that she was thrown in there to attract a Korean audience to the game ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That's the reason she was made in the first place, after all
@@porkchopsensei2742fair point
the iceberg legend himself spitting facts
She would be perfect for a special presentation
Luna Snow getting that push, like Wave and Aero kinda did, and people going "wait, who are you?" is kinda funny, because you gotta be real into Mobile Marvel games to go "Hay, I know you!'. Weird how it's not the first time original characters from games were made, they just never made an impact.
(Got Caitlin Snow and her moniker Frost mixed up there lol)
About Caitlin she is the third Killer Frost one of the two others did had Frost as her surname I think It is the original one who had a thing for Firestorm
So are you coming back to make videos or are you retired.
And here i was thinking Luna was a brand new character for a game when she was a brand new character for another game.
I love how people hear the term “cold fusion” and immediately think it means “freezingly cold”, while in actuality the “cold” part actually means “colder than the Sun” 😂
I suppose "still very hot fusion" doesn't make for as good of a headline.
Honestly, I respect Protector for giving up at seeing the kiss. Dude understood boundaries... or something.
I want to make a fun guess! Let's see... she's a new hero that shows a lot of promise but Marvel (for SOME REASON) slowly stop using her and just ended up putting her into the void of background superheroes..
Honestly it always breaks my heart when that happens.. ;A;
Sideways in a nutshell
@@mttylerdurden9 remembering him made my. heartbreak
@@mttylerdurden9 sideways was kinda cool in concept, but he never really fit anywhere
This happens to literally almost every single member of the Agents of Atlas, which is really sad😭
Like, Luna and Wave are my favorite among them, but they're the ones who doesn't get enough appearances. Although, things might change for the both of them this year. We all know Luna Snow is now coming to Marvel Rivals. Wave on the other hand is confirmed for the upcoming animated MCU show, Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man. Really-really looking forward to those!
@@millerishimaru5398 Silk's getting a show from Amazon too.
she did first appear in a video game(Marvel Future Fight), so I didn't expect a masterpiece from marvel with her.
tbf Gwenpoole started as a variant cover
Yeah, she's a marvel future fight original character
@@eduardoperezrubio4965 And outside of Unbelivable Gwenpool that is great all of her appearances are meh to worse
1:12
this set up reminds of how Dazzler got started.
I think they were going to make a movie and records.
but things went wrong and the movie didn't end up happening.
but we still got Dazzler out of it as a character who has become a mainstay.
also i think i saw in some text that she was originally going to be designed off of Grace Jones, but one of the higher ups changed that.
that's what i loosely remember from one of the essays on obscure topics on RUclips and this article i came across years ago.
You probably watched the video I made on it. 😉 ruclips.net/video/RxiUgKXYNvk/видео.htmlsi=WkOTjJKm2j-AY1YS
@@ComicDrake I think yours might've been one of them👍🤔from a more recent time.
And I think there might've been something a little bit older from moviebob that I came across.
@@ComicDrakecould you do one for Aero and Sword Master Chinese Superheroes that we’re introduced in 2019.
A Dazzler Luna Snow team up is what we need
@@PragmaticGolem that could be an interesting sound, Disco x K-pop.
Give her a Webtoon at least
“People werent interested in out asian superteam, how do we pivot?”
“…korean superteam?”
Which is hilarious considering they already tried this with the big hero 6 team
Joro Spider was definitely meant to be named after the Jorogumo, a spider yokai from Japanese myth, but, according to a Google search, the term Joro on its own is a term for a high class prostitute, so Joro Spider's name would translate as "Spider Whore" ... This is why you ALWAYS proofread and culturally consult BEFORE you come up with a character name.
It’s clearly just a reference to the golden orb weaver; the joro spiders. Plus she’s Korean not Japanese, don’t jump the gun
The black ice/white ice thing gives me massive Hero Shooter Support Character vibes... which I'm just realizing probably isn't far off from what it was designed to be.
Probably why she was added as a support character in the new hero shooter Marvel Rivals lmao
I don't understand how that would work anyway. K-Pop is all about the music and the choreographed movement. Two things that are completely lost with still images in comics.
I could see a Luna Snow story work in a Webtoon format, where panel layout directly ties to pacing, allowing the writers to script very kinetic choreographed battles. Heck, sound Webtoons aren't even that uncommon, and it would be fairly easy to have the audio track sync to the auto scroll, fully taking advantage of the culturally-relevant digital format.
@@dragonbretheren There is actually a K-pop themed webtoon that does some of that, without the music. It’s called Debut or Die and is set during an idol themed game show competition. So a Luna Snow webcomic would most definitely be possible.
It can happen, they're lots of books and novels about music even though you obviously can't hear music from words, they're still entertaining to read through. I'm sure there's also plenty of manga out there about music
Maybe they make an album with the kpop artist and release a cd/ vinyl with comics that you can read along with the music for a more physical format. The webtoon idea can work well but I’ve yet to see a successful marvel webtoon compared to dc who has a really well liked comic there. Most comic readers would probably prefer physical media over digital especially for speculators.
dunno, manga does it well
She looks like a cross between Rogue and Ice-Man.
Drake, as a Marvel Future Fight player you could've got Luna Snow with the anniversary event MFF is currently going through you could've obtained Luna Snow through the premium Tier 2 selector instead of spending £10 for her in the biometric sub
I’ve always adored Luna Snow, I dunno why but when I picked up future fight she instantly stood out to me and I tried to find what comic she debuted in just to find out she was an oc. I’m glad she is in Marvel Rivals so she might get more attention from fans and marvel
I really liked Luna Snow. Every single appearance shes made in comics, i have them. But from what i heard, its hard to incorporate her due to her creators situation. You know, since she was created from a mobil game as opposed to the comics, you have a 2 separate parents situation
Like all the cool characters.
@@sacrificiallamb4568 pun intended XD
@@CryptidZeker415 How did you know?
She didn't become the next Dazzler, but she did better than Nightcat
Sword Master mention, FUCK YEAH
It's crazy that Marvel isn't doing more with Luna snow without proud they are of future fight especially when they made her come on I'm glad she's in Marvel rivals there's so much more they can do, even Aero felt like she was getting a bit more of a push when they made her book and I loved it
Agents of Atlas was really good, however there weren't much emphasis on the characters after the event.
I was hoping they would continue pushing Agents of Atlas. Here's hoping Luna here reignites interest in that team
8:00 (Agents of Atlas & Jimmy Wu)
yes, please do a video on this group...I've never heard of them. I think they're in a section of Marvel I don't really go to.
Also, woah, I didn't know Randall Park's character (Jimmy Wu) was an actual character in Marvel.
The issue of What If? that first gives us all the Atlas characters as a team was really cool
This will sound weird, but I found out about Luna after Stan Lee past away. And because I was really sad at the time, I kinda grew attached to her on an emotional level.
I'm curious. How did you found about her? Through the Future Fight game?
@@wickedarctiinae4132 I stumbled onto one of her songs just 2 days after Stan passed, something about her stuck with me, I loved her ever since
Luna is giving me some Night Cat flashbacks. Just ya know. A bit more successful because I don't think Night Cat has been mentioned since the 90s.
Having sudden flashbacks to the previous versions of this type of thing, Dazzler and Nightcat....Dazzler was a failed musical cross-promotion project that went on to greater success as a mutant hero, while Nightcat was much closer in similarities to how they made/marketed Luna (live action counterpart, music videos and singles), both good and bad.
Let me put it this way....which one had a recent cameo in "X-Men '97?"
Luna Snow ice man, and Oya teaming up would go crazzzy😵💫
One of my most favorite designs in future fight, For obvious reasons, Was incredibly disappointed by how much she was unknown and incredibly evident now that she was revealed in rivals, Not only that, I am also disappointed by how uncreative her powers is for someone named Luna snow,
Edit: You need to pay for her now? She was FREE!!
I swear I had a dream about this character before, which is weird, because up until now, I had never even heard about her. What's even weirder is the fact that the dream ended with Drake making a video about her.
Drake, stop trying to give me prophetic comic-related dreams
What in the sam hell with that last bit?
I just wish instead of creating tons of new characters because others failed they work on the characters that failed to make them better.
With how people grt powers in comics, I'm surprised that Uncle Ben didn't get the ability to turn his hands into guns😂
I guess what doesn't kill you makes you stronger
As an honest Luna Snow fan, I share your frustration. Even when I thought Joro Spider is so cool and is not heard again after since, she could be built off as a honest rival and many more! There are so many things that you can do with Luna Snow. Even having her song be on blast once in a while? She has her own song for Bor's sake!
I feel you too. Honestly, I'd willingly write an Agent of Atlas continuation or Luna Snow solo comic if Marvel would just let me to.
Luna, Dazzler, and Night Cat need to collab. That would be wild.
It’s such a weird feeling that i already know exactly who Luna is since i was playing Future Fight *and* read her comics *before* Drake explains who this relatively unkown hero is.
I used to play Future Fight a while back. and I grew attached to Luna Snow as a result. She was a lot of fun to play, and I wish they'd made more of an effort to make her interesting. they definitely should have used her "black" powers more, which I took to be damaging spikes of Darkforce energy.
And yeah, the Agents of Atlas relaunch was a mess, I think Marvel needs to stick to teams of American characters (including Asian Americans, but set within America), because it's always weird when American writers try to work with "International" teams, they get too tokenized. I also think it was terribly to try and lump all their Asian heroes together, rather than just including them in the Avengers and other team books. Maybe they could have done a "West Coast Avengers" book set in San Fran, with 2-3 Asian American characters as well as plenty of other characters.
1:17 oh my goodness, the truth! I'm a League of Legends fan who has never played the game. I watch their cinematic videos repeatedly, have their songs on RUclips Music, read their lore pages (comics and stories), and absolutely love the world they've built around the game that I've never downloaded/opened
Hear me out
The idea of combinding jem and the holograms and kpop sound amamzing. I want to see girl group are secretly superheros and luna is part of it. It could be about pressure on being women or commentary on feminity
Why did luna have destruction and healing ice powers? She's struggling internalized sexism.
What about ither members? Maybe there's an idol have flowers powers. Instead being a healer, she's uses nature aggressively to attack people
They have a secret layout to be way from the public's eye and want peace of mind
Im tell you. This have potential to be a girly yet fun story
That sounds great.
I just like that marvel decided to make a character designed to be optimized for most esports.
Man, she looks really cool! I'd totally be interested if she got a solo series.
I'll never forget how excited I was when I saw she's finally make it into the comics. Oh those were the days
It seems as though they're trying to create more new characters because they can't just keep rebooting/retconning the same old characters forever. Sure, some of them are going to unfortunately be swing-and-a-miss ideas (like Snowflake, Safespace, and the NEW New Warriors), but kudos for trying.
I actually like the idea of the characters mentioned. It feels like some good representation without just labeling them "The Asian Avengers" and calling it a day. I'd only really heard of a few of them; Silk, Amadeus, Jimmy Woo, "Iron Fist". Luna Snow herself is an interesting new take on the same old ice powers and I think there's a lot of potential there for a really interesting character.
The most surprising thing about this is that Marvel Future Fight is still going. I played it for a few years before they leaned HARD into a "pay to win" model. With their predatory pricing, and the general let-down of the MCU's Phase Four, I'd have figured it had died during the pandemic.
Yeah lol 9 years is crazy
Sorry to tell you, but the game isn't a pay to win game. Yes, paying generally helps, but if you know what to do, you can get pretty far in the game now f2p
@@luqmanhakimi7139 That's good, I guess? I remember playing for a year or two, and quitting when they shifted their best characters to behind paywalls. Characters and uniforms that were defining the PvP meta were all only available for cash. It was no longer possible to get a full roster of all the characters for free.
Not wanting to pay $20-30 a month on their silly game, I quit.
Hey, huge respect to Protector. He saw that someone he was interested in was with someone else an immediately backed off. A lesser man would try to sabotage the relationship.
I remember when Luna was announced and was surprised of her having heterochromia, something I also have, its sad how underutilized she is considering her design is great and backstory sounds interesting, specially with all the push Marvel goes for female superheroes, but the one interesting female superhero is the one they choose to put on a team were she doesnt get almost any focus
At least she doesn't make yellow ice 😮😅
Will you do a video on Marvel's other failed attempt at getting into the music scene: Nightcat?
I actually like concept of an idol being a superhero. Hope someone writes a good story for her
I had never heard of Luna or the new people they made for those team books.
She looks rad, though, and the powers (if they could be bothered to use the full set) sound fun.
She looks cute, probably going to get a major push with marvel rivals.
I mean spider-man made his debut in FF so it not that bad.
5:26 fun fact "cold fusion" doesn't mean "cold as in freezing", it means "cold relative to nuclear temp". So really Luna should have "room temp" powers
Comics do be like that. 🤷♂️
I swear I remember there being a different k-pop related idol character in marvel with ice powers at some point
I love her design, her backstory, and interactions with Silk, but I feel like her stories are...eh
This was fun! Your enthusiasm is infectious -- thank you!
Personally, I think they should hire a Korean Manhwa team to make the comic. Marvel has been losing out lately to manga and manhwa, Luna would be an excellent chance to get in on that.
Release it as Manhwa books instead of as comic books and have some guest appearances once things are going well.
Just because Manga is doing better than comics doesn't mean comics are doing bad.
I know who Luna snow is she from marvel future fight
This seems like another Miles Morales case. Bad debut in the comics but eventually through other projects he became a beloved character. I think something similar could happen to Luna
I’ve been playing Marvel Future Fight since the beginning. She was actually free for like a week event when she first came out. Still one of my favorite characters to play, she was always OP
Love these videos focusing on lesser-known characters.
Any chance we can get a Mattie Franklin "Spider-Woman" video? She was introduced as a big deal before fizzling out in an insulting death that didn't matter. I would love to see your take on her.
Listen, when Luna snow dropped she was OP. I think she still is, and she was my favorite new inclusion. I wish her and White Fox/the other ancillary atlas agents that were huge in MFF got more (read: better) love.
Oh they will
Watch luna be an MC for a teen based marvel disney + show.
*Insert a joke about comic Kendrick*
Looks like they haven’t learned their lessons from Dazzler
What's that supposed to mean? Dazzler is a cool character when written right
@@Gabe600 really she can be legit OP, but then again Dazzler was a joint venture between Marvel and Casablanca Records, which was then a predominantly disco-oriented label
Fr my mff history made me onow about Luna and the other originals
Also you can get her for free with the new player stuff or just not logging in
And with anniversary or regular events you can rank her up easily
I love the Agents of Atlas and Comic Drake! 😭💓 So when I saw this video, it's an immediate click for me!
This team deserves all the spotlight! Thank you for covering some bits and pieces of them! ❤
Some people have some nerve on twitter to say she has done more for the lgbt+ community than NorthStar.
This isn't the first time marvel comics have toyed with a cross promotional pop music super hero character. There was Dazzler in 1980 and Night Cat in 1991. I wouldn't mind seeing a comic where the 3 decided to form a supergroup and go on a huge world tour and get into all kinds of whacky shenanigans. It'll be like josey and the pussycats but with superheroes!
Yeah, I know. 😉 ruclips.net/video/RxiUgKXYNvk/видео.htmlsi=vF0R-CuRLme9jAln
The way marvel treats its agents of atlas characters is so depressing
Any one of them could be the next big thing but they need an actual consistent run
Knowing the full context on how people recruit K-pop idols. I rather them lean on how absolutely screwed the K-pop industry actually is. Sexual Assault, Zero Autonomy, No relationships, Restricted to the "Innocent and sexy" image, awful pay, terrible working conditions etc.
Thanks for the video
As a kpop fan I feel bad for not knowing the singer that voiced Luna, but also like where did they get her from.
Put me in, coach. I would love to write a solo Luna webtoon/series
SOMEONE ELSE READ THAT FANTASTIC JEM AND THE HOLOGRAMS RUN? dude, i’ve never met a single other person who has read that! i was obsessed with them as a kid, i’m so happy!
“Has a protector called… protector” I’m crying
Hey, if DC can have a guy named Guardian, then Marvel can have someone named Protector
@@luisalejandrolopezbuendia9686 real, but i was laughing the way drake delivered the line combined with the sound effect 😭
Luna Snow was my main in Marvel Super Wars. Like honestly she was my go to hero in the game and I’ve mastered her character like players legit hated me when I used her special skill. Sad that marvel super wars got terminated and only lasted 4 years but I dominated that game with her lol.
Wishing for a cool background story to be written for her. I feel like she could be OP as a Marvel hero when written properly
I'm noticing a pattern where Marven creates a new character and instead of giving them time in a solo series, they're immediately thrown into a team and slowly fade into the background
Marvel seems to have a bad recent history of making cool characters and underutilizing them. It’s really kinda pissing me off 😅
It’s giving Dazzler.
I hope her appearance in Rivals gives her more to do. Luna seems really cool to me and i want to see more of this character.
She gives off a strong “We have Iceman at home” vibe, plus she’s been around since 2019 and has been in over 30 books, yet this is literally the first time I’ve ever heard of her. Marvel needs to do better marketing.
I wish Luna had been giving a solo mini-series. Instead all of her appearances are as Cho’s sidekick, and written by Pak, who writes the most insufferable Cho I’ve ever read.
They’re giving Hazmat her due right now so give it a decade and she’ll have her moment
I initially misheard the sponsor's name as "Story Averse," which sounds like the exact opposite of what Storiaverse is actually pitched as here, haha
Now that we are getting Marvel Rivals synergy videos, I am begging you for a Magik vid.
She should have kept wearing her concert clothes, cuz her superhero digs have been generic as heck. At least the Kpop fashion look would make her stand out a bit by looking trendy & cute, and frankly, if we're still worried about "practicality" in comics, we're kinda hopeless.
Man, I really love Luna Snow and the person they picked to voice her in one of her songs but yeah Marvel really dropped the ball hard on her in comics
And there won't be time to introduce her in the MCU because you got a Devil's Reign event starting in the MCU and you got the multiverse going on along with it. On top of that, you got too many characters to keep up with
The perfect time to introduce Luna Snow into the MCU would have to be post-Secret Wars, in the new soft-rebooted MCU
Isn't she a Marvel Future Fight original character first and for most?
Yes. She came out as a video game original in January 2018.
I hope marvel rivals leads to better stories for Luna Snow
great video, i am so sad, that they let down Luna Snow , i do love her :)
Amadeus Cho actively stopped Wolverine, Domino, and the rest of the mutants who were abused by Weapon X from executing the genocidal Reverend Stryker because CHO doesn't kill. He will never receive enough disrespect
The biggest surprise here is that my initial thoughts about her on seeing that first trailer for Future Fight were spot on... I never get stuff like this right!
Im exited to see her in Marvel Rivals! Glad they are adding some pretty deep cuts!
Its pretty cool they got a member of less well known group like Busters rather than a larger one to bring in popularity. Its probably jusy because its cheaper but its nice anyway
I honestly thought Luna Snow was an original character that was made for the new Marvel Rivals game! Thank you for educating us 😁
I had really high hopes for Luna Snow as I really enjoyed what LOL did with KDA and their music was really good. So when I saw Marvel was going to attempt the same thing with Luna Snow I was interested but then was disappointed by the unused potential of the character. They only released like 2 songs and she never really got her own books outside of her small run. I was kind of hoping that maybe she would become a member of the Avengers with as much as Marvel was trying to hype her up. Whats sad is that you could do alot with her especially with marketing they could even have done a crossover with Spider-Gwen and have Luna and the Mary Janes do a fun crossover album. Unfortunately Luna Snow joins the list of characters Marvel forgets they have but the companies that make their games remember for example she will be a playable character in Marvel Rivals.
She comes across as an attempt to pander to a new market. She's a K-Pop star because that's the only job that exists in Korea, apparently.
Luna snow is someone i never knew about
so this is where the woman from marvel rivals came from
I honestly like the korean heroes marvel created especially White Fox and Tiger Division. I first got introduced to them through the Black Cat comic.