I know there's probably some real mythologic names for those weapons, but I get the vibe of "So, we're using our made up names" from Chronos' response.
You know, thinking of it, enchanted artefacts and magical weapons were really not a thing in greek mythology. Even Achilles weapon and armour, forged by Aephestus himself, so to allow him to avenge the death of his beloved Patroclus... was simply described as being a very cool armour without really extra abilities to it, all things considered. I guess, though, the Odyssey has Ulysses bow and Eol bag to compensate.
Hrodreptus is definitely made-up, as was Hades' new spear. From what I can understand, Hrodreptus can be roughly translated to "Time's Scythe", since the latter half is similar to the word for scythe in Greek.
I wanted to argue that Perseus and Odysseus both make use of various artifacts, but even the legendary shield of Athena ends up being most lethal as a mirror. Actually, it’s interesting that both heroes I could think of were Athena’s favored. Their artifacts aren’t legendary for sheer magical power, but rather for their use as tools to outsmart their enemies.
@@gemmafire8628 The outsmarting part is more indicative of the Ancient Greek idea of heroism. Back then the hero was not necessarily going for the virtues of selflessness and altruism (look at Theseus).
Fun fact Thanatos does not actually have a scythe in Greek mythology this is usually because he depicted with a sword( to represent some kind of judgment I assume) or a inverted torch, to represent the fading of life( being the flame). However Kronos is usually depicted with a scythe or sickles to represent time and the harvest.
@@alphahunterd You would be right. In his portrait, you can see the hilt of the blade that's more famously attributed to him by his left side, under his veil/shroud.
I don’t think that it’s Than’s actual scythe, but Zorephet taking the form of Than’s scythe. Or maybe it was the same with the original Infernal Arms, where they were smuggled in
The weapons can take the form used by past and future wielders There's a dialog with Moros where he's surprised to learn he will one day wield the twin flames after we unlock his Aspect
Aspects can transform the infernal arms from users of the past and future. Thats why Zag could use lucifer weapon (who is stated a event of his "prideful fall" aka basically IN THE ORIGIN OF EARTH in the judeo-christian bible) to excalibur (wich take more than 1000 years after troy war). Thanatos weapon didnt leave him or appeared in the crossroads, the aspect of his weapon did it.
So the ways it explained in the first game the infernal arms (well presume the nocturnal arms work this way as well) kinda exist at all points in time, the first time zag unlocks each one it's in its present day form, appearance and ability based on him. Then as you grow close with each weapon you can change its form to that of its future or past users. The fact this is done with titan blood could imply actual time travel considering I think cronos was the only titan cut apart. Tldr the weapons are made by the fates so everything that ever will happen to them already has at the point that you get them
@@ArcDemon74096 Hermes is literally Asian. I honestly doubt that the creators care about the gods having actual Greek designs. Which is a bit of a shame really.
@@ArcDemon74096 It works in a "Chronos is ancient to even the Greeks" sort of way, as even Cleopatra had archeological digs going on in Egypt. Also, him having an hourglass figure is a great visual pun
okay...okay. I knew I wasn't going to like what was going to be said, but it hit me like a trunk. Is this why Hypnos is asleep? I had a feeling it was more related to Than and his family then Zag, and Hades, but it's a bit much for me...I need the game more then ever now to beat Chronos to the ground!
@@th3blackghost214 Well, yea if you're talking about GoW that's true but although the fates are very strong /spoilers/ when Chaos told Chronos where they are he captured them or something like that. Atleast that's where I'm at the game now idk what will happen later.
@@th3blackghost214what does god of war have to do with Hades beside both being based on greek mythology? They have two different approaches and even then god of war takes a looot more creative differences from the original myths
I think they’re making Chronos the same being as Cronus/Cronos, the Titan of the harvest (which has been happening since at LEAST the Romans, so you can’t blame Supergiant for that). Chronos here has a scythe, too.
Now this dialougue makes me mad af. Call me a nerd but why, why is Chronos the Primordial of time always confused with Kronus the King of the Titans and the lord of the harvest weilding his famed *SICKLE* called *HARPE* , I am not looking for accuracy, I am looking for respect here. Chronus' depiction is so mind gratingly corny and wrong that I cringe at it so much. Good game tho, 9/10. Would be 10/10 if it didn't have this flaw.
It's not the only time they've combined myths into one or split them apart. Zagreus is Dionysus, Hades is not Plutus, but they took their own spin on things that real life mythologists debated about. Chronos is a small part of a consistently inconsistent pantheon that they're well aware they've altered. It's an insignificant thing to nitpick over.
@@divinedragoonkain I nitpick because its a common inconsistency everyone makes. Hades is often a verse that tries to well subvert the base expectations of the mythos and not make the same common mistakes people make about the myths, but then they go and make the most obvious and common mistake. Its either trying to subvert itself or its a massive oversight.
@@yammoto148 Crono, the king of Titans IS a Time God. He is a deity of the harvest, but not as Demeter representing this natural life cycle, but as lord of the periods. For he was also the divinity of calendars and festivals, and mortal time, which all decays. Rhea his wife, in turn was a divinity of the flow of human time, this through the fountain (childbirth), menstruation and mother's milk. So "Maternity and harvest" of Rhea and Cronus were how they represented the passage of time. Chronos is the god of time, referring to the passage of the ages (from the golden age, the age of heroes and the bronze age).
"who reaps and who sows" is a fancy way of saying "we will see who fucks around and who finds out"
"You may have taken Death, yet death is here for you."
This line goes unnecessarily hard
When you take your brother's boyfriend's weapon into battle
Tan and Zag are just friends 😺
@@Kaitonft Wrong
@@KaitonftSorry to tell you that Thanatos plowed Zagreus's bussy.
@@Kaitonft funny you say that when they have a romance route in Hades
@@Kaitonft ну, это полуканон
I know there's probably some real mythologic names for those weapons, but I get the vibe of "So, we're using our made up names" from Chronos' response.
You know, thinking of it, enchanted artefacts and magical weapons were really not a thing in greek mythology. Even Achilles weapon and armour, forged by Aephestus himself, so to allow him to avenge the death of his beloved Patroclus... was simply described as being a very cool armour without really extra abilities to it, all things considered. I guess, though, the Odyssey has Ulysses bow and Eol bag to compensate.
Hrodreptus is definitely made-up, as was Hades' new spear. From what I can understand, Hrodreptus can be roughly translated to "Time's Scythe", since the latter half is similar to the word for scythe in Greek.
@@giacomoromano8842 but flying sandals and helmet of invisibility? This is artifacts for sure
as for magical weapon yeah, seems like that
I wanted to argue that Perseus and Odysseus both make use of various artifacts, but even the legendary shield of Athena ends up being most lethal as a mirror. Actually, it’s interesting that both heroes I could think of were Athena’s favored. Their artifacts aren’t legendary for sheer magical power, but rather for their use as tools to outsmart their enemies.
@@gemmafire8628
The outsmarting part is more indicative of the Ancient Greek idea of heroism. Back then the hero was not necessarily going for the virtues of selflessness and altruism (look at Theseus).
Fun fact Thanatos does not actually have a scythe in Greek mythology this is usually because he depicted with a sword( to represent some kind of judgment I assume) or a inverted torch, to represent the fading of life( being the flame). However Kronos is usually depicted with a scythe or sickles to represent time and the harvest.
I believe Than does have a sword in his profile art. he just doesn't seem to use it
@@alphahunterd You would be right. In his portrait, you can see the hilt of the blade that's more famously attributed to him by his left side, under his veil/shroud.
Cronus has a scythe because it was he used to castrate his father Ouranos.
@@sonofcronos7831 and it was also used for that
1:02 your Zorephan vs my *mumbles into hand*
hdrptds
Literally😂
Last line goes hard.
So doesn’t this mean no mortals can die at this point since death himself is out of commission?
I thought the same thing. Someone has to go get them and don't think he'll let Than do his job anytime soon.
not actual death.
In the Hades games, isn't Than peaceful death whereas Ares is violent death?
Yes it does, like in the story of sisyphus captured thanatos, no one could die
@@HSuper_Lee Violent Death is the Keres
me when I get a scrap worth of my favorite character (I need than to come home please 😭😭)
Dang Chronos got that iron crown on him.
Fitting, since the spiteful prick was mad enough with power to EAT HIS CHILDREN
+20 stress
I can't wait to get 'The reaping'-ed 10 times over
When this game fully releases i will be using Thanatos' scythe for sweet revenge
If this is how Chronos goes out in the full release, I have one word to describe what that would be - KARMA.
How did Thanatos' scythe end up at the Crossroads, since Kronos says "Death" didn't have it when the titan seized the House of Hades?
I don’t think that it’s Than’s actual scythe, but Zorephet taking the form of Than’s scythe. Or maybe it was the same with the original Infernal Arms, where they were smuggled in
A wizard did it
The weapons can take the form used by past and future wielders
There's a dialog with Moros where he's surprised to learn he will one day wield the twin flames after we unlock his Aspect
Aspects can transform the infernal arms from users of the past and future. Thats why Zag could use lucifer weapon (who is stated a event of his "prideful fall" aka basically IN THE ORIGIN OF EARTH in the judeo-christian bible) to excalibur (wich take more than 1000 years after troy war). Thanatos weapon didnt leave him or appeared in the crossroads, the aspect of his weapon did it.
So the ways it explained in the first game the infernal arms (well presume the nocturnal arms work this way as well) kinda exist at all points in time, the first time zag unlocks each one it's in its present day form, appearance and ability based on him. Then as you grow close with each weapon you can change its form to that of its future or past users. The fact this is done with titan blood could imply actual time travel considering I think cronos was the only titan cut apart. Tldr the weapons are made by the fates so everything that ever will happen to them already has at the point that you get them
That design for cronos slaps though
it looks cool, though admittedly the egyptian style design does seem a little off considering the mythology we're working with
@@ArcDemon74096 Hermes is literally Asian. I honestly doubt that the creators care about the gods having actual Greek designs. Which is a bit of a shame really.
@@ArcDemon74096apparently it's even more appropriate since the greek gods took gods from Egyptian mythology and others and adopted them into their own
@@ArcDemon74096 It works in a "Chronos is ancient to even the Greeks" sort of way, as even Cleopatra had archeological digs going on in Egypt.
Also, him having an hourglass figure is a great visual pun
... Huh, I would think he'd be more scared of it since, according to most sources, it's the adamantine sickle that disemboweled him...
Wrong way around, Cronus is the one who wielded an adamantine sickle to disembowel Ouranos, his father.
@@LeviathanTamer31 dag na it I'm sorry! Zeus got his siblings back by forcing Cronus to regurgitate! I'm embarrassed...
@@possiblepuzzles8137 It's no big deal.
nu uh, my stick is cooler than your stick!
Thanks for video!
They do be naming their dohickeys whatever comes out of their mouth without thinking.
my boyy
That's a cold line from Chronos
okay...okay. I knew I wasn't going to like what was going to be said, but it hit me like a trunk.
Is this why Hypnos is asleep? I had a feeling it was more related to Than and his family then Zag, and Hades, but it's a bit much for me...I need the game more then ever now to beat Chronos to the ground!
I wonder why he was without it. Like dude NEVER put that thing down.
1:00 Chronus had a Sickle not a Scythe.
What system is this game on I have Hades game on Netflix ?
It's currently PC-only.
What the hell what's this Ohio how are you playing Hades on Netflix a Streaming Service I thought it was on Switch and PC 💀
@@Ostr0 bro.. netflix games published the first hades onto mobile phones
@@qsettee Netflix does mobile games!? Dang this really is the darkest era
@@Ostr0 yeah Netflix has it as a game no shit but it is the 1st Hades 😂😂😂 oh in 🗽 off Broadway there is a musical called Hades Town pretty damn good
I think the fates are only ones who can stop chronos and the other titans
No, the Olympians beat them before. Just seems like Chronos got a power boost.
@@caiusdrakegaming8087 The Olympians beat them because the fates allowed it to happen. If you haven't played God of war then don't say nothing
@@th3blackghost214 Well, yea if you're talking about GoW that's true but although the fates are very strong /spoilers/ when Chaos told Chronos where they are he captured them or something like that. Atleast that's where I'm at the game now idk what will happen later.
@@th3blackghost214You're commenting on the game called Hades 2, not God of War. Your comment is thus irrelevant.
@@th3blackghost214what does god of war have to do with Hades beside both being based on greek mythology? They have two different approaches and even then god of war takes a looot more creative differences from the original myths
If I ignore Chronos being a titan instead of a primordial like he actually is....I can probably really enjoy Hades 2
I think they’re making Chronos the same being as Cronus/Cronos, the Titan of the harvest (which has been happening since at LEAST the Romans, so you can’t blame Supergiant for that). Chronos here has a scythe, too.
Now this dialougue makes me mad af. Call me a nerd but why, why is Chronos the Primordial of time always confused with Kronus the King of the Titans and the lord of the harvest weilding his famed *SICKLE* called *HARPE* , I am not looking for accuracy, I am looking for respect here.
Chronus' depiction is so mind gratingly corny and wrong that I cringe at it so much.
Good game tho, 9/10. Would be 10/10 if it didn't have this flaw.
It's not the only time they've combined myths into one or split them apart. Zagreus is Dionysus, Hades is not Plutus, but they took their own spin on things that real life mythologists debated about. Chronos is a small part of a consistently inconsistent pantheon that they're well aware they've altered. It's an insignificant thing to nitpick over.
@@divinedragoonkain I nitpick because its a common inconsistency everyone makes. Hades is often a verse that tries to well subvert the base expectations of the mythos and not make the same common mistakes people make about the myths, but then they go and make the most obvious and common mistake. Its either trying to subvert itself or its a massive oversight.
Chronus and Cronos are frequently combined even in ancient sources. The Supergiant games take a lot of inspiration from the Orphic hymns.
@@yammoto148
Crono, the king of Titans IS a Time God. He is a deity of the harvest, but not as Demeter representing this natural life cycle, but as lord of the periods. For he was also the divinity of calendars and festivals, and mortal time, which all decays. Rhea his wife, in turn was a divinity of the flow of human time, this through the fountain (childbirth), menstruation and mother's milk. So "Maternity and harvest" of Rhea and Cronus were how they represented the passage of time.
Chronos is the god of time, referring to the passage of the ages (from the golden age, the age of heroes and the bronze age).
They were getting combined even in ancient sources. There's no one solid canon.