Around the 24 minute mark, there are like trait checks when theyre about to die, can you show what happens if you manage to acquire those traits? Thanks a lot
Why is Tabitha on a pyre instead of being hanged in your game. In mine she's a floating corpse with a noose. Is this some sort of family friendly version youre playing?
Honestly, his story is just depressing as hell. Due to the trauma of his family’s death, most likely gained schizophrenia and possible DID too. The accident with the concussion + the fact that he returned to his home place most likely triggered severe hallucinations and such. This is the reality of some people in the world and its really sad af
It really shocked me the fact that this was all in his head and everything he went through was just in his mind nothing was real in the whole thing with Mary in the witch trials I’m pretty sure that was an option for him to believe the doll for the fire or for him to seek forgiveness for her actions
@@beatricemcgarvey1198 D.I.D. can develop through trauma regardless of age. and especially since he must have been 17-19 around the time his entire family was murdered the D.I.D must have started then, and carried through his life. and areas or threats that would spark the trauma could be deadly and often very realistic.
Or they were supplied to Andrew's imagination from the mannequins in the museum. Those mannequins were faceless but dressed in the Puritan attire, too. While this might also be a metaphor for how Andrew perceives people, I think it might have been supplied by the museum, which he would have known and probably seen as a kid in Little Hope. And the fact that his family died in the same manner as some of the Witch Trial victims likely caused the Witch Trial hallucinations.
They represent all the people who believed he was directly responsible for the fire accident despite not knowing anything about the case or him. Hence why they're faceless, Andrew never knew any of them
I think it's a great and subtle way of telling us that only a few central characters in the 'witch trials' actually meant something. Only the people who had been haunting Anthony had faces; everyone else was just set dressing and props to use in his little scenes.
The game is the mind of Andrew. The fog is a cloudy mind. Andrew is remembering the deaths. Either Andrew continues to blame himself or he accepts the tragedy was out of his hands by forgiving himself.
what about the little girl's demon friend at the beginning? Were there no supernatrual elements? Was it all psychological? What about the abuse, who was abusing her?
@@pfl95 the demon figure was the priest. She had been molested by the priest and she sees the priest as her demon. She had been abused both physically and mentally, thats why she went crazy
So apparently most people don’t understand why the rest of the “characters” randomly die by the hands of their demons. Well it’s because they were killed by their metaphorical demons. When the ghouls execute each of their counterparts, there’s multiple negative traits that appear in their eyes. Throughout the course of the game, every decision and dialogue is related to one of two traits: a negative and a positive. If you select the same negative trait choice multiple times, then you lock that trait into their character, hence the demons. What’s even more poetic is that these were all traits that Daniel saw in his family and related them into the personas that he experienced. This is a really sad story about a schizophrenic man who’s still traumatized about his past in which he believes he either: condemned his whole family to death or helped push his sister to murder everyone. And judging by his demeanor at the end, he is slowly remembering that he isn’t an 18 year old college student. He’s alone.
for those who didn't understand: The driver was the boy who had his whole family killed by the fire in the house. He blamed himself for it all his life and in the end he can overcome this trauma
@@Neiydaa i dont think anything particular, but the asian judge is the same passerby that saw him with the matches at the beginning, and the police officer is in the 1600s as well.
The judge is Asian - which is strange because obviously that town wouldn't have any Asians. So why is he Asian? He is the PASSERBY in the beginning that sees Anthony with the matches and says, "What have you done?" Anthony was judged by him and he probably spread rumors ... that is why he is the judge in the hallucinations and greatly played into his guilt and in some endings causes Vince to think he murdered the whole family in arson.
Judge and whole witch trial thing wasn't real. It was all in Anthony's head to cope with the fact that his family died and Mary = Meghan. Saving her from being burned alive = forgiving Meghan for what she did all those years ago.
@@missionaryofstolas-3168 yes he wasn’t real but Anthony used real people he knew in his imagination that’s why the judge was even able to be Asian in a town like that
@@day1asmr501 Yep. Judge was asian = the same person who caught Anthony outside his house with pack of matches and he called a police and ruined Anthony's life that way. Same goes in the witch trials - he does sentence people and how their lives would end.
Although the game doesn't explain it, my interpretation of the evil entity with Megan is this: the mum makes a point of saying Megan keeps being held back by a priest called Carver - I think he was sexually abusing her and she ended up lashing out at her family for not seeing it. The demon was her inner demon. This is why in the past Mary is used by the priest and has a secret she shares with him. Saving Mary from the priest is symbolic of Anthony putting the fire blame on the real life priest rather than Megan.
I am unsure of Megan. I believe she was most likely abused by Carver and carried that demon with her. Clue #50 on the grid shows that the key Megan "used" to lock doors was still in the clock and never removed at the time of the fire. I don't believe she locked the doors as the house was old and it was freezing and shifting.
I know a lot of people didn't like the twist of it being all in his head, but i like it. It's the story of a man dealing with the trauma and guilt from an accident that killed his whole family. Him visiting his home town forced him to face his guilts
The witch trials were filler then? There was great potential but the ending is one of the worst ever attempted in anything they were going for the inside of his head thing there should have been more parallels the only one was his sisters boyfriend (forgot his name) cool concept with reincarnation and good characters ruined by the ending
You know what? Normally I'm not a fan of "it was all in your head" twists, but this one actually grew on me. Little Hope has some of the same flaws as Man of Medan, but I think the story is a lot more compelling.
@@Massimo-007MK Well this is all just my opinion of course, but I thought the biggest flaws in that game were the bland characters, predictable plot, cheap jumpscares around every corner, and the fact that you basically missed half the story unless you played with somebody else.
@@Massimo-007MK man of medan was kind of boring compared to this game imo. It has a way better story, characters, and decisions. Huge upgrade from the first game.
I love how this comment is like "This line from the last 20 minutes of the game TOTALLY was hinting at the ending!" like, lady, this WAS the ending. There was no hinting left to do.
Some people thought it meant "I didn't save you Abraham did" but now no. Also even more emotional because even if you try to save her as Anthony she dies.
You have all the puzzle pieces, and you got a few of them pieces together Then "I'm sorry I put you all through this" hits, and in the next 10 seconds when possibly dead people start talking (such as Daniel if he died) it all flies together, but it's still missing something, then Andrew is revealed to be the Bus Driver and the Bus Driver Anthony, and in that moment EVERYTHING clicks
I dont get why its confusing, theres plenty of movies with similar premises. Anthony was the bus driver, he has a severe mental disorder due to guilt and grief that is exacerbated by being redirected through his home town, and his feelings manifested in two storylines: the college kids and the witch trials (probably learned about in his education). Nobody and nothing in the story actually exists in the reality of the game except Anthony, Vince, and the cop.
@@aedenpik yeah i don't like her either. everyones forgetting that she was smirking when tanya died not to mention she's literally the reason why the house burned in the first place
@@agentcole6081 i think it was a red herring to make you think she is evil but the whole game center around the idea that "remember she is just a child"
I really didn't expect that to happen. It was the bus driver all along. The accident wasn't his fault and those memories haunted him. It showed that his family will always be with him.
@@clementinetfsteam I highly recommend watching the beginning of the video. After the bus crashed, there's a flash back that would helps show why the ending made sense. After the flash back, then the present day story begins.
You go from scared to sorry real quick, and you can never look at the game the same again. Then you realise that there are people across the globe living through this every day. Incredible game, and an even more incredible message.
Its sad that tanyas boyfriend just blames Anthony for just being the only one alive. Like he really had nothing to do with it he didn't know what to do either 😪 jeez
And he took the situations for face value. He was in hand cuffs at the funeral so "he must've done something". That's why I think in this game it just talks about forgiving since no one but Anthony knows the truth. Even then, he still blamed himself for it soo... idk
Also the ending where A says leave me alone I lost everything and Vince goes "you lost everything?" like dude yeah you lost your girlfriend but he lost his entire family. That just doesn't compare
alright. The fact that the dude has split personalities/ schizophrenia or whatever it is, that's cool. But the fact that he imagine his sister Tanya(Taylor) and his brother Dennis(Daniel) dating is disturbing me.
I think they are all adopted ?! And Dennis didn't like Tanya's boyfriend, i think he was jealous and maybe he liked her. So it makes sense for Antony to create this image of them.
@@jaquelinelopes3080 yeah they were adopted! i definitely agree dennis seemed jealous of the boyfriend. i thought maybe it has racist undertones but after seeing the ending i think he was jealous.
@Dior Linn the eye color doesn't matter, it's still supposed to be the same person. they're "played" by the same person so no, the face is not different. they don't even look different. must be the hair throwing you off. also, they both die the same way (if you hang tanya, taylor gets her neck broke, if tanya gets set on fire, so does taylor). they're the same bro
To summarize this: bad ending : do every bad choice/good ending: do every good choice/best ending: keep everyone alive and keep it balanced Edit: actually unlock there fears aka from choices you make
The curator said "forgive yourself" He knows that Andrew is just hallucinating trauma from past and needs him to let go of his guilt because it's not his fault Just move on
I just realized after watching the good ending again after the twist that when Andrew says "But I didn't save you" he was talking about Meagan who couldn't save in the fire
No he meant Megan, who he could save from the priests abuse in 1971. Not the fire. She was being abused by the priest her mum (the one who died in the bathroom ) sent her to. That was her demon
@Isabeez all of that is Anthony imagining things. Even the "history of Little Hope" professor John hints at does not exist. Anthony just loved reading about witches (like seen at the start of the game) which is how he got inspired with hallucinating witch trials
I'm surprised no one has mentioned The Curator's cake like OMG HE THICK edit: when I wrote this I didn't even know who Sean was so no, I don't come from his video hahahah
@@SasNostalgia But they are real there. Only Chiaki. (Just to clear it out. I've only seen V1, V2 and Despair Girls I'm halfway through that. I Watched play all of that. For Despair Girls He's at the part where you climb down that Tower, Future Foundation Makoto Reveal. Man got real Emotional because of that Abuse scene.)
Ah, I understand. Anthony/Andrew was a child when the house burned down, killing his whole family. Depending on if you light the Kettle or not depends on what ending you get. If you light the kettle Vince will think you committed arson and killed your family, if you don't he won't blame you. The Judge is the PASSERBY we saw at the start, hes the judge because if Anthony is holding the matches. He thinks you committed Arson, vise versa. Kinda fucked up, The bus driver was having hallucinations about his Family that died in the fire.
It actually also depends on whether you were mean or nice to Vince. If you attempted to shot the "monster" near Vince, then he'll also call you a murderer even if you didn't light up the kettle
@@loganreed23 It does not matter whether you decided to shoot near him, if you choose the right dialogue options in the church he doesn't call you a murderer.
I don’t get how lighting a kettle can make you guilty, by that logic we all could be murderers it just takes physics (burning falling doll) + unfortunate events
wasn't the guy that grabbed the main charecter in the prologue the same as the judge? I find interesting what that could of meant symbolically. Not a real answer to the question lol, but it's an observation.
Just realized the “doubles” of the characters take the form of how they died in the house fire at the beginning of the game. The flashbacks to the Puritan times also resembles how the family died at the beginning
@Sasha_Jones there is a choice at the beginning where Anthony have to choose where Tanya would go in the blazing House to save herself, if you choose window to she will burn to death, if you choose the pipes she will hanged to death, that's why there is a two different type of monsters of Tanya.
Hi! so I just responded to a message explaining the conquering of the demons, and thought I’d put it on here as it’s own comment so In the game each character has to conquer their own demon. The hint is basically the “Bearings.” For “Team Taylor” Taylor must feel as if she is a part of the group, and then at the end of the game she has to tell whoever is trying to help her (Probably Daniel) to save themselves she has to face her own demon in the end. For Daniel his Bearing is “Home Grown Hero.” He has to do heroic actions like attacking his demon with a knife, saving Taylor etc. Then at the end he has to tell Andrew to save himself since once again Daniel has to face his own demon in the end. John’s Bearing is “Authority Figure.” He needs to be the leader and a role model to the group, and once again in the end he has to reject offers of help from Andrew. Angela’s confused me a little bit, but I think I get it. Hers is “Deeper Understanding.” She has to question everything. Be intrigued by her double, but she also has to understand the group’s emotions. Feel sympathy towards them, in the end she shouldn’t ditch John. Stick with him and stand against the demons. Last but not least Andrew. This ones easy. Just help him set Mary free. Condemn the priest the true evil. If you condemn Mary everyone will die no matter what. I haven’t tested the doll, and I know that if you condemn the priest everyone who conquered their demons will be safe. If a character failed to conquer their demon they will die no matter what. Short Version: 1. Daniel has to be heroic. 2. Angela has to be understanding. 3. Taylor has to be apart of the group. 4. John has to be the authority figure. And in the end you must choose the “Heroic” choice rather than “Fearful.” Hope this helps. Oh yeah also I forgot about Vince. Just be nice to him and don’t shoot near him. Edit: Oh also one more thing I don’t think this is the best ending. One of the replies @Robyn Zero explains what I think is the best ending. I 100% think agree with them.
wow this is basically a guide on how to have a happy family where each member of the family has their own roles and responsibilities to keep the family peaceful.
There is also another possible ending, which is a secret one, but can be also considered a 'bad' one: to obtain it, Anthony should have a gun and pick every right choice with Vince so he forgives him and he doesn't end up in prison. Also, everyone has to die for it to unlock, and you should burn the doll instead of fucking the priest over, so I think you shouldn't let the characters conquer their demons, and as you said they'll die regardless in the end... thus re-enacting within the historical setting what actually happened to Andrew when the house burned down. To me, this sad ending is surprisingly fitting and ends up 'healing' Anthony anyway, because it's as if he accepts that he could do nothing to save his family and gets rid of his guilt, also accepting that they were flawed but that he loved them regardless. Most importantly, he gets to help and tell Mary/Meghan that he cared about her and that he understands what she felt and went through. When his guilt is too much and he's about to shoot himself like in the suicide ending, Mary/Meghan's memory hugs him and stops him. IMHO among all bad endings, this is by far the best one (also moving).
@@datdefaultboi6779 they all are, hence why anthony reimagined his siblings dating . they had a secret relationship kept from angela who was the mother
Yea, I agree that its better than Man of Medan. The lore and setup makes everything more convincing and the twist at the end sure is both a surprising and heartbreaking, without feeling too much like a deus ex machina and it explained so much.
Yeah, I really didn't like Man of Medan, saying ''oh yeah all those jumpscares and monsters ? Just because you inhaled some shit'', it was a lame excuse. While here I really like how they put his past into that Mary, Amy,... And that ancient style. I'm just kinda disappointed cause again, there was nothing surnatural and it was again ''all hallucinations'' but it was way better made than Man of Medan and made the story interesting from A to Z (I always waited for Mary's jumpscares to see the past). I thought that it was some kind of curse including 5 people who would die from the same deaths over and over again, no matter what they do
The ending had my head spinning like what that’s just sad realistic he lost his family and he imagined his friends/family was right beside him but he was alone he basically went crazy and was just lost 😢
What about until dawn? Maybe it has something to do with Josh’s loss? Like revenge maybe. Revenge, fear, and guilt (idk if u watched until dawn either but I would recommend it and would say it’s my fav in this series so far!)
@@cassie.k007 Yes I did watch Until Dawn and I also think it is the best, but it is not part of the anthology so I dont think it thematically ties in. But otherwise I think you are right and would maybe add actions and consequences to your list.
I wonder what his Reaction would have been if he actually saw her. Maybe it was something like David's when he sees her. (In the Curator's cut you can be Daniel in the Church and have a 1600's thing again and Daniel's Double is happy seeing... His sister? I dunno. It feels more like Wife than Sister but I dunno. Wonder if Mary was Adopted too.)
Him looking in the back going “yeah I doubt they will mind much” is when I realized the bus was empty. But I was surprised to find people on the bus. And it was weird . But it makes sense . What don’t make sense is the bar tender (I forget his name and I don’t just wanna call him black guy) riding around on his bike at night and living in a dead town ._.
@@princessblackout that's because there's two ways Taylor can die in the house fire. Sean chose the drainpipe which made herself be hanged and in this video the player chose for her to go through the window instead which made her be burnt alive, hence why there's a different ghost/ghoul for Taylor compared to Sean's playthrough
Atleast, this game has taught me that sometime reality can be so cruel and the most terrifying. I really sorry for Anthony and (little) hope that he can finally forgive himself and move on from his past.
So apparently our main character, Anthony suffers ptsd because little sister or him (not certain yet) caused the fire which led to the death of all of his family. Anthony's 60 or so years later comes back to site where his family was killed or the town where he was at as a bus driver(explains the strange transformation of the student into the bus driver/anthony) in order to cope with his family's death and in order to forgive himself or his sister (whoever caused the fire) he creates a imaginary fantasy world where the students and professor with each character representing a significant character in Anthony life (little girl=little sister)
I think he might have forgotten or mixed-up what have happened because it's not explained if the little girl was intentionally trying to kill them or if the girl just left her toy in the wrong spot
Alright, so this is the story: Megan, his little sister started the fire. She felt misunderstood, failed at school and obviously struggled with mental illness. She kept lashing out because of those reasons, and that's why her parents disciplined her in a rough manner (as you can see in the book found in the ruined house). They sought help from a priest (you know which one) but he only made matters worse as he was practicing occult/dark magick and it's implied he m*lested her. Megan, tormented by her inner demons (the demon you saw at the start) planned to kill her whole family. And did so. Not Anthony. After the events, Anthony does suffer from severe PTSD, amnesia, trauma etc. To make matters worse, he was arrested and people thought it was his fault. So he goes back to his hometown, Little Hope, after crashing the bus and suffers from schizophrenia there where he imagines his deceased family members and gives them new names. He finds ways to blame people. That's what the witch trials represents. He starts with his mother, Anne (Angela), then Taylor, Daniel and eventually John, who all face their demons who represent how they died (Daniel's demons have spikes, he dies through impalement, Taylor's demon represents hanging or burning, depending on how you made her die at the start etc.) They all turn out to be innocent and wrongfully died for no reason. Until the story ends with Megan (Mary) who was the actual culprit and Anthony has the choice of either blaming her (burning her at the stake) or the priest. If you blame her, Mary will once again lash out, saying no one understands her and Anthony is just like the rest. If you blame the priest, Anthony knows he is the one who caused Megan to actually do what she did.
So inside his head he was still blaming his sister, he either judge her guilty or innocent, he either forgive her or keep a grudge against her, where the existence of the trial. He either wants the guy who saw him with lighters, the judge, to know that it’s partially his sister’s fault if they died, he was tormented for years by his judgement, by everyone’s judgement. Because in the end he was the only one who knows why the fire grew. Mary doesn’t even appear in the group so it really was Andrew holding a final judgement about Mary, wether he hates her to the point of burning her or forgive her and letting go of all his negative emotions towards her...
Yeah that was the whole point of the witch trials you had an option to say it was the doll or say it was a priest by not choosing the doll you forgive her
@@lilovs9952 Expect for we learn via notes and such that its the Reverend Carson's (the one from the 70s that the family went to for church) fault as he is a member of a satanic cult who pushes Megan (70's Mary) into a fearful state causing her to start the fire and kill her family. The doll represents her imaginary friend (the big demon-handed guy) that comes from the neglect/trauma she has going for her.
@@jam4678 Vince was Tanya’s boyfriend. Vince believed that, since Andrew was seen outside the house with matches on his hand, he had killed everyone in the house, including Tanya.
Every single one of these endings makes me cry, even the "good" one. I think people are forgetting too that he was hallucinating before he even got to the town, so he still had some mental illness due to ptsd, but even still he got some closure by getting over his demons.
I love how Vince insists on following Andrew around all night and then doesn't like it when he keeps seeing him or when Andrew tells Vince to leave him alone.
The similarities of the deaths shouldve been a hint all along. John - crushed like his dad. Taylor - burned likr his sis Angela - drowned - bathroom trap Daniel- paled in the fence like his brother. The game is psychological really good. And symbolic as well
This still doesn't explain the demon that was standing behind Meghan or who was talking to in the beginning of the game when you hear her voice as Anthony. I suppose we could say it was her "imaginary friend" since nobody else wanted to talk to her? Or, like the theme of the game has revealed, that it was her own psychological "demon" she was trying to confront....which, unfortunately, in the end, won out, thus her setting the house on fire.
Actually, the prologue we see is Anthony's dream, so its his point of view. He sees a demon because he doesnt want to be blamed for his family's death, so he tries to blame it on his little sister and some kind of supernatural stuff.
@@snooopypp2676 another good explanation would be that Meghan was abused by the reverend/priest, so he made her do bad things, and the demon behind her is his influence.
It was Anthony's dream and his point of view of the matters. The truth is that Meghan was abused by Carver just like Mary. Anne says that the reverend had held her back for a long time after church hours on Sundays. Meghan was not bad at all it was just how Anthony thought it was. The demon behind her was also on Anthony's imagination. He was the one who lit the fire and he might have pushed the blame on to his sister because he felt guilty. The doors of their house were faulty at the start they jammed due to the snow. So, Tanya got locked out like that, we see that Daniel's ladder shakes by itself not because of Meghan and the mom could have just locked herself in the bathroom. Now, after all these years Anthony wants to do justice to his sister cause he feels that she might not be the reaosn why it all happened and he understands that the reverend was the true evil. He connects his personal story to the witch trial because we know that Little hope is a place known for that and he was also reading a book about witch trials at the beginning. The curator had pointed out so many times that our own demons are inside us. It was the biggest hint of the whole game.
All of the endings mean one thing: "No matter how much you want to change things, the past will stay the same." The "double" monsters just ensured it, no matter how hard Anthony tries to save them, or even imagines saving them; the past still happened, nothing can change that.
That’s Fr where I just came from, I was so shook when I seen this I can’t wait till they see the end also considering how much they bring up the bus driver
This is an interesting ending, but I kind of don’t want every Dark Pictures to be a real world thing disguised as supernatural stuff. It worked for me in Man of Medan, but this time I honestly would have preferred time loops to what we got. It makes sense and everything, but idk. I think I get now why some people felt let down by Man of Medan.
I honestly really liked this game because I felt like it was super real people who go through severe trauma really go through this kind of stuff and the fact that everything that you had done and everything that you went through was all in this guys head which is really scary and sad And I’m pretty sure the whole thing was about him actually just trying to forgive his sister
No cap im sitting here like damnnn reincarnations, dope witch trial shit, doppelgangers, sick time loops, and it turns out to be a fucking sob story about schizophrenia fml
@@donmoez6289 Honestly I do agree with the confusion it was a huge slap in the face and it surprised me but I liked the idea of it cause I never expected it to be a all in your head thing but considering the last game was like that I should’ve expected it hahah Though I do genuinely like the way this game was someplace I didn’t like but I did enjoy it end it made me feel extreme empathy for the main guy the fact that he couldn’t MoveOn after all those years after losing his family 🥺
@F1re_ One Nothing is resolved in the end. None of the characters we've followed really change, they don't have arcs, and they don't really matter. None of the choices matter to the twist. And now any more of these games that come out will be extremely predictable.
@@ShadowMancer97 i see what you mean but it's different with man of medan because those characters were real and could actually die, it was just the threats that weren't for the most part besides Olson
It actually does matter, not in the way you think it had less to do with the characters dying. More to do with Andrew, based on if he forgives himself or continues to blame himself or what happened to his family. And considering that Andrew can commit suicide in this games it's safe to say that yes, it didn't matter for those characters but most of those choices affect Andrew. May not be the thing you wanted but the choices do have impact.
For some reason, Daniel and Taylor died with me before they left the house at the end. (I know why, if you call for help when you're monster is attacking you, you die on the house) (Another edit) All deaths are from the elements. Water: Angela Fire: Tanya Air: Daniel Earth: John
@@orang9134 I don't think you can get shot. Officer just pulls out his own gun on Anthony and arrests him. In that ending that dude in the bar uses the gun as a justification to why Anthony should be arrested.
The bus company is Farriman- ferryman. He ended up back there to take the souls of his family where they were going, as he said. He took them through that town, which gave them a last chance at their final destination: redemption or damnation (depending on player choices).
I finished the game yesterday and I loved the plot twist. The thing that spotted me was the logo "Ferriman" on Andrews jacket. The ancient Greeks believed that all human souls went to the mythological underworld Hades. Charon, a minor god, was given the task as the ferryman of Hades who carries souls of the newly deceased across the river Styx that divided the world of the living from the world of the dead.
I dont know about you people here, but for me the scene from 12:15 was the best in the whole game. Where he says sorry, and all of them supporting him and forgiving, just for the reveal to happen, and then saying the best line in the whole game "I just wish we all could have made it" It made me shiver, him knowing that they love him even after they died, him being real with his guilt and his sadness to know that he misses them (not being toxic positive, or depressive), and that they dont blame him is something I resonated a lot with.
To be honest, maybe I don't really understand. Appreciate it if someone can explain it to me. I know Vince is Tanya's boyfriend but how dare he be so rude to Andrew/Anthony? Like he literally just watches 4 family members died right in front of his eyes. And vince be like OUHH YOU THOUGHT YOU LOST EVERYTHING, I WONT FORGIVE YOU. Like bruhhhhh anthony/andrew obviously suffer more but why vince wanna make it seems like he's the one hurting the most.
In the prologue the neighbour caught Anthony holding matches right at the moment where the house engulf in fire. So maybe Vince accusing Anthony burning his whole family, so that's why he said "You thought you lost everything?" Cuz in Vince's perspective Anthony incinerated his whole family
Late response, but I think Vincent will act differently towards Andrew/Anthony based on you act towards him. Dialogue choices and if you acquire a gun and shoot at a monster behind him he thinks you are trying to kill him. If you don't do those and have 'good' dialogue with him then he will be nicer to him. And get the good/best ending. People accused Andrew/Anthony of the fire because he had matches and was outside so at face value it looks like he did it. He also told Tanya to either go down the drainpipe or go back inside the house, which someone would argue he killed her when both options were kind of bad. And that Andrew/Anthony was really trying to save her. Plus a lot of people want to blame someone when something bad happens, but sometimes accidents happen it's not something that brings everyone comfort.
I read something about Vince's father dying in the house fire when he went in to rescue Andrew/Anthony. So if that's correct Vince lost both his girlfriend and his father in a fire that he may or may not believe Andrew/Anthony caused.
If this story had happened in reality. In the very beginning that petrol Cop wouldn't let that bus driver go any further. Because he had a sign of psychological problems..he was delivering some people in his thoughts
This is so much better than Man of Medan. The dialogues, the story telling, the narrative ... everything has been improved upon and I actually really enjoyed this game
One thing I learned about these devs is they just like psychological warfare. In Until Dawn it’s about (I forget his name) but the guy who’s sisters were killed and he’s suffering from ptsd & schizophrenia (I forget if it’s both or just one, it was a long time ago) and he starts to blame himself for his sisters’ deaths. In man of Medan, everyone is going crazy cause of the gas/chemical and think there’s actual treasure but they end up getting killed (or not) because they start hallucinating. And in this one, it’s all about Andrew/Anthony and his ptsd after thinking he’s the cause of his family’s deaths
Yeah, but at least in Until Dawn, there actually WAS an element of the supernatural and it wasn't a bait and switch for mental issues. I mean, it's clever, don't get me wrong, but after this second one it's a sure bet that the last one will have a mundane explanation for all the spooky stuff happening. Kinda kills the suspense if you know that events are someone's hallucinations.
You're thinking of Josh Spoilers for Until Dawn I love how there is no good ending for Josh, the only endings for him are to die or become a monster himself
@@sunshinegamer1981 At the start of Little Hope, I went "well Man of Medan faked out the supernatural elements, if this one does the same I'll be pissed". Then it did. It'll make the third game even harder to believe now.
@Trajan the Great I think all of the Dark Pictures Anthology are going to be in the same vein. Something psychology based that can explain the spooky supernatural stuff as mundane and easily explainable, if no less horrible. Now that we know what to expect from the last couple of games, all we have to figure out is how they're going to explain it away as "it's all in your head" in the next....six games or so? So it's not like we won't have any mystery to solve. We'll just know that the horror isn't going to be anything supernatural.
@@sunshinegamer1981 Personally that ruins a lot of the enjoyment of the games for me. If that's fine with you, fair enough, but now that I know there is a formula it's a lot harder to be invested. Especially as the characters, dialogue and gameplay so far haven't very compelling, so you haven't got other things to focus on.
That premonition at 0:39 is a hint for the upcoming Dark Pictures game. Judging by the premonition, im guessing the theme of the next game is more Tomb Raider-esque and Indiana Jones like.
One thing I learned about this game's ending mechanic is to avoid negative traits getting locked when you're dealing with the conversation moments, else the character on which the trait gets locked will get killed by their monster version at the end no matter what choice you make from that point.
So the game won't go deeper into the fact that the lil girl at the beginning had a demon on her side and cause the burning and also locked all other family members up in their room?
it was meant as the girl was always being shunned and ignored so in his mind to make himself feel like it was out of his hands he imagined megan as the culprit
I'd say she is schizophrenic. Now, I don't know how academically successful schizophrenic people are, but I assume they aren't that good and Megan's grades were awful. She also locked the doors behind Tanya and Anthony while locking their brother in the attic before burning the house. Anthony probably assumed she was controlled by the devil since he is into that occult stuff.
The people get killed like Anthonys family and the people in the past get also killed like that. Tanya even have 2 deads, cuz you decides how she will die at the beginning > Strangled or burned. So thats decides how the Tanya from the past will die. Daniel guy was impaled by a fence, so the monster impales him - the guy out of the past was also impaled. Mother/Angela suffocated - The Angela from the past also kinda suffocated Dads bones were chrushed. Also the bones from the professor - annnnnnnnnnnnnd soooo the dude from the past. if you would have noticed that earlier you might have been able to link that together and kinda get the plot twist.
@@thundabird also Megan was the one that started the fire which caused everyone to die apart from Anthony and Mary also caused everyone to die because of the rumours and Abraham also never died
The ending was kinda cop out ish, but when you really think about the witch trials and how they connect back to Anthony blaming his family for the fire, it's kinda great. That ending blew my mind 100%.
Hmmmm so the real world explanation seems to be our character suffers from some sort of ptsd or scitz. Just like how the last one wasn't ghosts but chemical fumes but this one seems to be a mental disorder instead of witchcraft monsters makes you wonder what kind of theme they'll go for next and its logical explanation
@@ArrozTioPelon I get what you mean but to be fair were both right in a sense being yes his family died in the fire and that probably caused a sort of ptsd response in his brain to remake them in a more modern way
Or maybe he was haunted and followed by the ghosts of his family after the incident and his mission on this journey is to find final destination to the soul, with some recreation of the souls identity, for there's some believes that souls forgot their original identity as human life. The main character could've just pretend with a identity matched up with the souls new identity. With some creepy item in this town like the book about witch and how abandoned and looks haunted this town, the game kinda want the player to think that the ending is still can be related to paranormal twist ending. But, to be honest, that psychological twist ending is the first thing I thought of
Okay, I'm going to present a pretty dumb theory that may be wrong, but also wouldn't invalidate the idea of saving everyone. (As well as provide an explanation for moments where the party split up). I think there actually WAS a supernatural component to the story. I only just finished the game (incidentally, the other survivors in my playthrough were John and Angela), so I may be remembering a few things wrong. Near the beginning, one of the characters (I think it was Daniel) presented the idea that they were all already dead. In addition, during his monologue at the end, the Curator said "some found redemption, some didn't". I also can't help but suspect that there was significance to Andrew/Anthony hearing the whispers of the other characters in the end. Part of me suspects that we were in fact playing as the souls of the people who died in the fire that burned down the Clarke household. Their "survival" means they have overcome their flaws and can pass on peacefully, whereas their "deaths" means they have succumbed to their flaws and thus have been condemned to hell. I may be wrong. Maybe it really is just one big hallucination. But there are a few plot holes here and there, and this theory of mine does present an explanation...
I agree with this!! The Curator even says that if they do die, they're condemned to a fate "worse than death." I think that whether or not they get out of the house is representative of whether or not they remain trapped in Little Hope forever!
That's what I thought! I was pretty sure that these incarnations happened for real because all these characters in their first life died horribly and before dying they deeply hated Marry, as she accused them in witchcraft, so their soles became restless full of hatred for that girl, that's why in next incarnation they still hated her inside and blamed if opportunity given, aside from Andrew, he was kind to her, because he never died in previous life because of her. So I really thought that driver Andrew without knowing delivered their soules to Little hope so that they could go through trials and forgive Merry. That actually sounds so much better than...what we got....I mean, now it really does seems that Andrew came up with all that shit in his head, take an asian judge for example....that's basically the dude who accused him of burning his family in prologue >___
I think it was all in his head, the curator was pushing for imagined redemption and forgiveness as a way to move on, basically being a psychiatrist. People who keep holding grudges and blame against others just hurt themselves.
This game really unique like how after you finish it you can no longer see it the same way as the first time you played it. Really spectacular story telling portrayed in a great way
POV: your here after jacksepticeyes playthrough because he didn’t like the “it was all a dream” twist, so he’s not going to play for the other endings.
@@Blaise_Blackwell and? you're going to judge every opinion of his bcs he liked a game you didn't? his opinion of the ending is agreeable because i too felt pointless to save them all when I know they arent real
I don’t care about what you, the player had to do to get it, but the ending where everyone dies in front of you and you’re peaceful with Vince is the GREATEST ending I wish I had. The plot twist being revealed like that would have made me so emotional.
The moment when you realize the bus driver had some mental disorder and the beginning is where his family dies. I also notice how the deaths in little hope relate to how the family died in the beginning. One was crushed, one burned alive, another impaled and finally the last one included how one couldn’t breathe.
Wyatt L, Imean you literally have the bring everything you’ve experienced in the game together and figure out how it all ties together from analyzing from the beginning towards the ending instead of just looking at RUclips video and watch someone else explaination and go “oH hOw LoNg It tOoK u To FiNd tHiS” after literally reading only one comment that summarizes the whole entire plot.
You know, I've been wondering. Just what right does Vince has to shout at the guy? He wasn't the one that lost his entire family. He saw the guy literally run into a burning house to save his family in vain. Like, how much did you lost in comparison to him?
The frontal lobe plays a big part in the capacity for empathy, and a sloped forehead like Vince's thus makes it less plausible for him to be empathetic. Don't blame him, blame biology.
On my first try, I got the perfect ending where everyone survives and Anthony overcomes his guilt. I was pretty happy about it. This plot twist put in me in a deep state of contemplation, because there is a happy ending, but also a sense of tragic irony. But the pain and absurdity and darkness is outweighed by the light. The beginning of the game is gutting, but the opportunity to save the reincarnations of the characters who soon cruelly met their ends provides hope. That hope is banished when you realized it was just Anthony going back to his roots and confronting his demons. I wanted to save Taylor and Daniel and Angela and John, I grew attached to them, but instead I realized I was just honoring their memory.
Whether people like the ending or not to this story I gotta admit it’s the story that hit me in the feels the most because of how depressing it is no matter the ending you get.
The storyline was great,but I honestly can't feel the ending,its kinda sad that none of the characters we're real and it seemed like a waste of time for me to play this game...
He's not schizofrenic, all of this is a result of his guilt,PTSD(of the deaths and having to go back to the town where everything happened) and his concussion. His trauma and guilt caused him to create this characters so his family could 'live again', now if he created them years ago or only when the cop said he had to go through the city idk. The concussion+ mental breakdown(due to having to go back to such a hurtful place) caused him to:get confused and not be able to tell what was real or not,forget he was 'real' and end up inserting himself in the story,create the monsters, and create that whole elaborate haunting storyline based on the city's history of trials. The whole trial was just a way for him to get his imaginary family and himself to move on and forgive themselves. It's very bittersweet.
Yeah he is schizophrenic as a byproduct of his PTSD, his episodes involve schizophrenia And to answer your question, it's pretty safe to assume he created them as soon as the officer mentioned Little Hope
his concussion happened after the bus crash tho and he was already having an episode before he was supposed to drive to Little Hope, remember he already thinks there's another passenger in the bus when the police man told him to take the route through little hope.
@@spacejesus6581 Sorry I worded it wrong. People were saying that he was schizophrenic and ignoring the other factors(concussion,guilt,...) and I tried to say that schizophrenia wasn't the only thing affecting him.
@@Jamushu I was talking about him thinking the monsters and the differences in the city(imagining the bridge being all messed up when it was actually just fine) were real.
Sorry for bad languange of my english... The story is ... Anthony was born in Little Hope ... He has a Family ... Tanya , Denise , Anne , James , And Megan ... Tragicly his house its burned by burning doll that Megan put it ...In Here i see Megan was very dissapointed by her broken home family and we can see that Megan did nothing , let her and family being died, but luckily Anthony has save himself from this accident and get out of the town Year has been change ... And he is 45 i think ... He is a bus driver now and back to the home town when police ask him for detour to little hope ... Then, When he loss controll of driving by seen His Little Sister, His bus is Crash and this accident hit his head so hard and His mind is little broken of some short amnesia and replaced by his imagination (Illusion of past) And The Old Century of 1899 (Correct me if im wrong) ... This is the urban stories of Little Hope ... Maybe this urban stories was telling by his dad or mom when Anthony is a child... maybe ... and he believe with that ... It explains why we seen Old Century , Another Version Of His Famillies and Ghost... But this thing is never existed (Only in his mind) Andrew , John , Angela , Daniel and Taylor is another version of his imagination ... He want to create another version of his family then he mixed in his imagination about past so he feels never be alone again (and Old Century that he imagine ... Of Course) And In The End... Anthony realized that he wasnt accept for his own Family being dead by the tragic accident in the past...At Last , now he back to the reality and he realized that The Past cannot be changed ... Its sad story ...
*spoilers* I’m guessing if you condemned Mary, all the survivors (except Andrew since it’s Anthony the Bus driver) will all die cause of that decision, even though you made all the good decisions and their traits you’ll still lose everyone since you condemned Mary
Which is kinda weird since _she did cause the fire,_ unless Carver really was a stand-in for a demon presence controlling her (eg the shadow claw behind Megan before the doll is set on fire, her deliberately trapping everyone) in which case idk _why_ they would ever even consider going with a bullshit “nothing was real” ending. Like _cmon._
Sadly you also lose most of them even if you condemn the Priest instead. My understanding is that it has to do with their final character traits , and in my play through i made all the good decisions at least IMO and made them all nice to each other and somehow still ended up with bad character traits and lost all of them except Angela, which doesn't make any sense.This game judging system is completely unbalanced and broken!
@@culverine3010 You probably figured this out already, but if you didn’t let me help a little. In the game each character has to conquer their own demon. The hint is basically the “Bearings.” For “Team Taylor” Taylor must feel as if she is apart of the group, and then at the end of the game she has to tell whoever is trying to help her (Probably Daniel) to save themselves she has to face her own demon in the end. For Daniel his Bearing is “Home Grown Hero.” He has to do heroic actions like attacking his demon with a knife, saving Taylor etc. Then at the end he has to tell Andrew to save himself since once again Daniel has to face his own demon in the end. John’s Bearing is “Authority Figure.” He needs to be the leader and a role model to the group, and once again in the end he has to reject offers of help from Andrew. Angela’s confused me a little bit, but I think I get it. Hers is “Deeper Understanding.” She has to question everything. Be intrigued by her double, but she also has to understand the group’s emotions. Feel sympathy towards them, in the end she shouldn’t ditch John. Stick with him and stand against the demons. Last but not least Andrew. This ones easy. Just help him set Mary free. Condemn the priest the true evil. If you condemn Mary everyone will die no matter what. I haven’t tested the doll, and I know that if you condemn the priest everyone who conquered their demons will be safe. If a character failed to conquer their demon they will die no matter what. Short Version: 1. Daniel has to be heroic. 2. Angela has to be understanding. 3. Taylor has to be apart of the group. 4. John has to be the authority figure. And in the end you must choose the “Heroic” choice rather than “Fearful.” Hope this helps.
@@deltasnowolf7957 I actually didn't figure that out, but thanks for the explanation it does help. I mean i get that,that is what they need for their traits, but i was more in a mental state like: "this is like a horror movie and i have to have all of them stick together and not die and help each other and be a team to survive". Little did i know that the characters were going to be judged for sticking together, lol. I guess it isn't called "Little Hope" for nothing.
this crazy, so there is no good, there is no bad ending, or best ending, he just a mentality problem, he need with his brain, also there was no devil, he was devil himself.
I had a stroke reading this :D Also from what I read I see that you are mentioning the fact that Andy/Andrew has mental health problems and then said and I quote, "he is just a mentality problem" Listen, as a person who struggles with mental health issues such as anxiety and depression, I can say that life is absolute hell with mental health problems and it might not be as bad as the way as the depicts it, or at least not always this bad but it's still really bad and sorry for ranting but I'm tired and irrated so I decided to write this comment
@@jacobthetransguytransboi7845 bro my bad, i am sorry, i didn't mean it like that, i was just surprise about the twisting ending because none of us though it was about to be like this, hope u doing well.
@@jacobthetransguytransboi7845 Anxiety and depression is all in your mind. Meaning, you have the power to FIX it. I know because I speak from experience. Trust and believe that NO pill will “cure” your mental problems, it will only suppress it and cause other problems. On the other hand, Schizophrenia is something completely out of your control. You can’t fix it. So, I don’t know why you’re ranting. Want to know how I solved my anxiety? I literally did the complete opposite. Yes, instead of “hiding” or blending in or trying so hard to NOT be noticed, I decided to go up to people and do pranks. Everyone was looking at me, some laughed at me, some got mad and judged me, but I slowly started to NOT care. I’m an extrovert now btw. Now, depression was a bit tougher. I had to ask myself why I was depressed in the first place, found the root of my problem, and decided to do something about it. My root of the problem was fear. I was afraid of lots of stuff. So, I decided to become fearless. Then, everything else started to fall together. Changed some habits. Opened up more. Forgiven myself and others. Now, I’m dying to live instead of living to die. Anyways, hope this helps. I know I’m making it sound easy, it’s not lol. It took some time but I feel great now. No pain no gain. 😂
@HopefulCookie yeah you are shunned for having depression nowadays tho, it’s the hard truth, people think any mental illness means you should be in a mental institution
18:47 When taylor said "it's okay you tried everything you could don't blame yourself it's not your fault" I think it was Anthony saying to himself that it was not his fault that they died
Not gonna lie, I thought there would be more to the lore rather than the usual 'it was just in his head' bs. To be honest, when I first watched playthroughs of this, I theorized that maybe these were people suffering from a dreaded curse for 3 generations; the Clarke family died the same way as the people in the witch trials, I even thought they were reincarnations of the same people, that's why they looked similar and had memories of their past lives but NOPE, it was all just in his head.
yeah, there was a moment for me when I thought that the little girl or this guy from the past were actually witches and that one of them casted a spell on the rest of the family so they would be reborned and then haunted by these demons/deaths from the past🤷🏼♀️
Especially since Man of Medan *kinda* did the same thing (although you can argue it was a little more ambiguous; you don't know if it was spirits or the toxic gas)
@@demonteprice5870 Definitely playing Man of Medan first gives you a headstart on some things... This aspect and the DO NOT USE WEAPONS aspect is present in both games, I hope they change that going into the next game and make the use of weapons something to actually defend yourself
I'm not really a fan of "it was all in their head/it was all a dream" endings, but I do think this was handled better than most stories that follow the same trope. The idea that the events stemmed from trauma and guilt is a very interesting concept. It does a good job tying the story together. The trials that falsely accuse people of being witches is a reflection of Anthony bring falsely accused of starting the fire.
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Andrew Shoots VS Don't SHoot Himself ENDINGS: ruclips.net/video/s6KT_Hu2D-4/видео.html
Around the 24 minute mark, there are like trait checks when theyre about to die, can you show what happens if you manage to acquire those traits? Thanks a lot
@@robinhahn5942 im not very sure but, I think when you aquire those traits they die
@@robinhahn5942 Oh wait, I just read a comment that said that when you acquire those traits the character doesnt dies
Thats 1000 gifted subs right there
Why is Tabitha on a pyre instead of being hanged in your game. In mine she's a floating corpse with a noose. Is this some sort of family friendly version youre playing?
I like how the goal is to find the bus driver, and it’s basically telling him to find himself and reconcile.
Maybe the real bus driver was the friends we made up along the way
@@mialopi2010 no
@@mialopi2010 so true
bus driver be like dude where is this guy like I wish he was just in front of me
And the fact that his family were passengers on the bus is also kind of a metaphor of him finally putting his family to rest.
Honestly, his story is just depressing as hell. Due to the trauma of his family’s death, most likely gained schizophrenia and possible DID too. The accident with the concussion + the fact that he returned to his home place most likely triggered severe hallucinations and such. This is the reality of some people in the world and its really sad af
Thats true.. :(
Yeah, the true horror of this game is how it mirrors reality a bit :( these are real things that happen to real people
He’s too old to develop DID
It really shocked me the fact that this was all in his head and everything he went through was just in his mind nothing was real in the whole thing with Mary in the witch trials I’m pretty sure that was an option for him to believe the doll for the fire or for him to seek forgiveness for her actions
@@beatricemcgarvey1198 D.I.D. can develop through trauma regardless of age. and especially since he must have been 17-19 around the time his entire family was murdered the D.I.D must have started then, and carried through his life. and areas or threats that would spark the trauma could be deadly and often very realistic.
I just realized the background characters in the court scene are faceless. A good picture of how andrew percives other people.
Or they were supplied to Andrew's imagination from the mannequins in the museum. Those mannequins were faceless but dressed in the Puritan attire, too. While this might also be a metaphor for how Andrew perceives people, I think it might have been supplied by the museum, which he would have known and probably seen as a kid in Little Hope.
And the fact that his family died in the same manner as some of the Witch Trial victims likely caused the Witch Trial hallucinations.
They represent all the people who believed he was directly responsible for the fire accident despite not knowing anything about the case or him. Hence why they're faceless, Andrew never knew any of them
I think it's a great and subtle way of telling us that only a few central characters in the 'witch trials' actually meant something. Only the people who had been haunting Anthony had faces; everyone else was just set dressing and props to use in his little scenes.
What happens if the entire family survives at the end but you choose to blame the doll and not the reverend (as well as not piss of vince) ?
I think it's meant to be a clue, actually.
The game is the mind of Andrew. The fog is a cloudy mind. Andrew is remembering the deaths. Either Andrew continues to blame himself or he accepts the tragedy was out of his hands by forgiving himself.
Dude this is very similar to the movie Identity... I came to the conclusion because of the true ending
oshit so thats why they told us to forgive mary and why mary ressembles megan. Damn this is even more darker now
Is it that if you let mary die somehow, then Andrew goes to jail? Or why
what about the little girl's demon friend at the beginning? Were there no supernatrual elements? Was it all psychological? What about the abuse, who was abusing her?
@@pfl95 the demon figure was the priest. She had been molested by the priest and she sees the priest as her demon. She had been abused both physically and mentally, thats why she went crazy
tldw : these endings are all depressing, with or without brutal deaths.
fucking facts
Tldw? What does that mean?
@@inotagirl3149 too long; didn’t watch
@@etegiwg oh thanks
Yeah
The fact that he was taking to himself all this time and trying to save ppl that weren’t even there is heartbreaking.
Stg bro, that shit is painful
@@solitary2 Its funny ha ha
I’m the 1000 like :) but it honestly is very true :(
I feel so bad for Anthony. He lost his family and has to deal with possibly losing them again.
I agree,It was very heartbreaking. I even cried when i finished the game
Everyone coming here after their favorite streamers finish the game.
I finished it yesterday, Messed me up a little
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You're 100% right sir
What is the matter of bus driver it went out of my head btw my favourite gamer has no completed the game :D
So apparently most people don’t understand why the rest of the “characters” randomly die by the hands of their demons.
Well it’s because they were killed by their metaphorical demons.
When the ghouls execute each of their counterparts, there’s multiple negative traits that appear in their eyes. Throughout the course of the game, every decision and dialogue is related to one of two traits: a negative and a positive. If you select the same negative trait choice multiple times, then you lock that trait into their character, hence the demons.
What’s even more poetic is that these were all traits that Daniel saw in his family and related them into the personas that he experienced. This is a really sad story about a schizophrenic man who’s still traumatized about his past in which he believes he either: condemned his whole family to death or helped push his sister to murder everyone. And judging by his demeanor at the end, he is slowly remembering that he isn’t an 18 year old college student. He’s alone.
Wait u mean Andrew/bus river,
not Daniel right?
omg u are so clever
no shit dude, I agree with ya
yo arthur, how's heaven?
hallucination aren't exclusive to scitzoprhrenia the are also seen in dissociative disorders which unlike shitizophrenia are brought on by trauma
for those who didn't understand: The driver was the boy who had his whole family killed by the fire in the house. He blamed himself for it all his life and in the end he can overcome this trauma
Best explanation 🙏🏽
But he did not cause the fire. It was Megan, his younger sister. He just thought he killed them all, but in fact, he did not.
@@janinawheeler-adams1251 major fax
How the other people from the 1600 has to do with anything?!
@@Neiydaa i dont think anything particular, but the asian judge is the same passerby that saw him with the matches at the beginning, and the police officer is in the 1600s as well.
The judge is Asian - which is strange because obviously that town wouldn't have any Asians. So why is he Asian? He is the PASSERBY in the beginning that sees Anthony with the matches and says, "What have you done?" Anthony was judged by him and he probably spread rumors ... that is why he is the judge in the hallucinations and greatly played into his guilt and in some endings causes Vince to think he murdered the whole family in arson.
Judge and whole witch trial thing wasn't real. It was all in Anthony's head to cope with the fact that his family died and Mary = Meghan. Saving her from being burned alive = forgiving Meghan for what she did all those years ago.
@@missionaryofstolas-3168 yes he wasn’t real but Anthony used real people he knew in his imagination that’s why the judge was even able to be Asian in a town like that
@@day1asmr501 Yep. Judge was asian = the same person who caught Anthony outside his house with pack of matches and he called a police and ruined Anthony's life that way. Same goes in the witch trials - he does sentence people and how their lives would end.
Someone gotta be serving boba during those times 😂
@@nickygrubs4877 is that racist? I don’t even know anymore
Although the game doesn't explain it, my interpretation of the evil entity with Megan is this: the mum makes a point of saying Megan keeps being held back by a priest called Carver - I think he was sexually abusing her and she ended up lashing out at her family for not seeing it. The demon was her inner demon.
This is why in the past Mary is used by the priest and has a secret she shares with him.
Saving Mary from the priest is symbolic of Anthony putting the fire blame on the real life priest rather than Megan.
I am unsure of Megan. I believe she was most likely abused by Carver and carried that demon with her. Clue #50 on the grid shows that the key Megan "used" to lock doors was still in the clock and never removed at the time of the fire. I don't believe she locked the doors as the house was old and it was freezing and shifting.
Same here. The second the mom said she was being held back I got a sick feeling
Carver isnt a priest in the 70s timeline hes the mayor the priest is carson
@@alexisbuffon8431 are you sure? I could’ve sworn Megan was wearing a catholic school uniform- and why would the mayor hold her back after class?
@@kate7896 carver was the guy electing for mayor. His poster was outside the factory.
I know a lot of people didn't like the twist of it being all in his head, but i like it. It's the story of a man dealing with the trauma and guilt from an accident that killed his whole family. Him visiting his home town forced him to face his guilts
I 100% agree, I love it when horror takes a psychological turn
This is an example of how it can be done right.
The witch trials were filler then?
There was great potential but the ending is one of the worst ever attempted in anything they were going for the inside of his head thing there should have been more parallels the only one was his sisters boyfriend (forgot his name) cool concept with reincarnation and good characters ruined by the ending
Yeh I feel like this game is cool in that way
I’m not surprised considering all their games deal with mental illness sugar coated as horror
You know what? Normally I'm not a fan of "it was all in your head" twists, but this one actually grew on me. Little Hope has some of the same flaws as Man of Medan, but I think the story is a lot more compelling.
Oh, what are the flaws in man of Medan?
@@Massimo-007MK terrible story, terrible characters for a start
@@Massimo-007MK Well this is all just my opinion of course, but I thought the biggest flaws in that game were the bland characters, predictable plot, cheap jumpscares around every corner, and the fact that you basically missed half the story unless you played with somebody else.
@@Solar-em2ld the only amazing character was the homie Conrad
@@Massimo-007MK man of medan was kind of boring compared to this game imo. It has a way better story, characters, and decisions. Huge upgrade from the first game.
Goodness gracious, this is sad as hell! *saves Mary* "But I didn't save you" This is already hinting at the unorthodox depressing ending..
Yep. That one line is what made me go "hold on just a damn minute..."
Turns out I was semi-right about the ending before I even saw it.
I love how this comment is like "This line from the last 20 minutes of the game TOTALLY was hinting at the ending!" like, lady, this WAS the ending. There was no hinting left to do.
Some people thought it meant "I didn't save you Abraham did" but now no. Also even more emotional because even if you try to save her as Anthony she dies.
"You guys are getting paid?!"
best reference
a little fun fact: If you search "eyebrow guy" on Google, it leads to this actor.
HaHhahaha
Lol when does he say that?
@@xselmani3843 no that’s a meme format with the actor for Andrew
The entire game is like "????" Then the end is like.... "oh that makes sense i guess"
Exactly this
You have all the puzzle pieces, and you got a few of them pieces together
Then "I'm sorry I put you all through this" hits, and in the next 10 seconds when possibly dead people start talking (such as Daniel if he died) it all flies together, but it's still missing something, then Andrew is revealed to be the Bus Driver and the Bus Driver Anthony, and in that moment EVERYTHING clicks
I'm still super confused with some of these endings
I dont get why its confusing, theres plenty of movies with similar premises. Anthony was the bus driver, he has a severe mental disorder due to guilt and grief that is exacerbated by being redirected through his home town, and his feelings manifested in two storylines: the college kids and the witch trials (probably learned about in his education). Nobody and nothing in the story actually exists in the reality of the game except Anthony, Vince, and the cop.
@@BurningFyre he was reading a book at the start about witch trials which is probably how he knew
I'll accept any ending, as long as Carver pays. He definitely assaulted Mary.
That was the Decision I made in the first Playthrough ;)
I dont like the kid. I enjoyed the ending were she got burned, sadly not the best with all the others getting killed afterwards.
@@aedenpik yeah i don't like her either. everyones forgetting that she was smirking when tanya died not to mention she's literally the reason why the house burned in the first place
@@agentcole6081 i think it was a red herring to make you think she is evil but the whole game center around the idea that "remember she is just a child"
@@mr-anfosh827 idgaf if she is a child she killed everyone that she loved in real life and in andrews imagination so don't feed me that bullshit
I really didn't expect that to happen. It was the bus driver all along. The accident wasn't his fault and those memories haunted him. It showed that his family will always be with him.
What just happened in this game? I don't understand what happened at all!
Kinda sad. He even made believe that his family was with him when driving the bus
So does saving the others matter
@@clementinetfsteam I highly recommend watching the beginning of the video. After the bus crashed, there's a flash back that would helps show why the ending made sense. After the flash back, then the present day story begins.
why does the guy from the bar blame him? He clearly didn't cause the fire in the house or did he?
You go from scared to sorry real quick, and you can never look at the game the same again. Then you realise that there are people across the globe living through this every day. Incredible game, and an even more incredible message.
Its sad that tanyas boyfriend just blames Anthony for just being the only one alive. Like he really had nothing to do with it he didn't know what to do either 😪 jeez
Its because he had matches in his hand
And he took the situations for face value. He was in hand cuffs at the funeral so "he must've done something". That's why I think in this game it just talks about forgiving since no one but Anthony knows the truth. Even then, he still blamed himself for it soo... idk
@@brycenstanhope2209 oh yeah ok but he didnt want to let him explain
@Nobody Nobody2 yeah i know
Also the ending where A says leave me alone I lost everything and Vince goes "you lost everything?" like dude yeah you lost your girlfriend but he lost his entire family. That just doesn't compare
alright. The fact that the dude has split personalities/ schizophrenia or whatever it is, that's cool. But the fact that he imagine his sister Tanya(Taylor) and his brother Dennis(Daniel) dating is disturbing me.
@Dior Linn but they have similar hair styles
@Dior Linn they're definitely the same... that's the whole point
I think they are all adopted ?! And Dennis didn't like Tanya's boyfriend, i think he was jealous and maybe he liked her. So it makes sense for Antony to create this image of them.
@@jaquelinelopes3080 yeah they were adopted! i definitely agree dennis seemed jealous of the boyfriend. i thought maybe it has racist undertones but after seeing the ending i think he was jealous.
@Dior Linn the eye color doesn't matter, it's still supposed to be the same person. they're "played" by the same person so no, the face is not different. they don't even look different. must be the hair throwing you off. also, they both die the same way (if you hang tanya, taylor gets her neck broke, if tanya gets set on fire, so does taylor). they're the same bro
To summarize this: bad ending : do every bad choice/good ending: do every good choice/best ending: keep everyone alive and keep it balanced Edit: actually unlock there fears aka from choices you make
Like we never played man of medan
@Help Me no one was alive
@Help Me no that one screen stuff only
@Help Me else steam online
bruh...you don't say
The curator said "forgive yourself"
He knows that Andrew is just hallucinating trauma from past and needs him to let go of his guilt because it's not his fault
Just move on
Andrew is not hallucinating, Anthony is hallucinating
@@Vishwamdamor7109 Funny thing is that Andrew is the hallucination version of Anthony
@@PadoruAlwaysComeBack yeah
I just realized after watching the good ending again after the twist that when Andrew says "But I didn't save you" he was talking about Meagan who couldn't save in the fire
No he meant Megan, who he could save from the priests abuse in 1971. Not the fire. She was being abused by the priest her mum (the one who died in the bathroom ) sent her to. That was her demon
@Isabeez all of that is Anthony imagining things. Even the "history of Little Hope" professor John hints at does not exist.
Anthony just loved reading about witches (like seen at the start of the game) which is how he got inspired with hallucinating witch trials
I'm surprised no one has mentioned The Curator's cake like OMG HE THICK
edit: when I wrote this I didn't even know who Sean was so no, I don't come from his video hahahah
I'M GLAD I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE like when he's turning around about to grab some book I was like DEMNNN
My husband and I were saying the same damn thing lol
Right????!!
YES HE ISSSS
IK AHAHAH EVERYTIME WHEN HE APPEAR I WAS DAM
I grew so much to liking these characters only to find out they weren't real in the end. That just hurt my heart.
*Basically the entire Danganronpa franchise.*
This is what the game is about. Antony believed they were real too :D
I killed them all, what is the point of saving them anyway?
@@SasNostalgia But they are real there. Only Chiaki. (Just to clear it out. I've only seen V1, V2 and Despair Girls I'm halfway through that. I Watched play all of that. For Despair Girls He's at the part where you climb down that Tower, Future Foundation Makoto Reveal. Man got real Emotional because of that Abuse scene.)
@@MariusBoss11458 I got news for you buddy. :-)
Ah, I understand.
Anthony/Andrew was a child when the house burned down, killing his whole family. Depending on if you light the Kettle or not depends on what ending you get. If you light the kettle Vince will think you committed arson and killed your family, if you don't he won't blame you. The Judge is the PASSERBY we saw at the start, hes the judge because if Anthony is holding the matches. He thinks you committed Arson, vise versa. Kinda fucked up, The bus driver was having hallucinations about his Family that died in the fire.
It actually also depends on whether you were mean or nice to Vince. If you attempted to shot the "monster" near Vince, then he'll also call you a murderer even if you didn't light up the kettle
@@loganreed23 It does not matter whether you decided to shoot near him, if you choose the right dialogue options in the church he doesn't call you a murderer.
so to put it bluntly...that bus driver is Old Andrew?
I don’t get how lighting a kettle can make you guilty, by that logic we all could be murderers it just takes physics (burning falling doll) + unfortunate events
I thought you couldn’t decide if you wanted to light the kettle or not? How can you prevent that?
IM SO GLAD THAT THE ENDING EXPLAINS WHY THERES A ASIAN DUDE IN THE COLONIAL TIMES
i was thinking that i was like there's no way they're letting an asian dude be the judge in the 17th century
Ya I was confused about that too
Lmao was thinking the same thing
wasn't the guy that grabbed the main charecter in the prologue the same as the judge? I find interesting what that could of meant symbolically. Not a real answer to the question lol, but it's an observation.
@Rachel Garcia
Wait, what's the reason? I missed it.
Really cool when Taylor said "it's not your fault", in that exaact moment, Anthony got rid of his survivor's guilt
Just realized the “doubles” of the characters take the form of how they died in the house fire at the beginning of the game. The flashbacks to the Puritan times also resembles how the family died at the beginning
NO WAYY DUDE I JUST NOTICED THAT
The cool thing about this is taylor has two deaths and that's why she has two monsters version.
it's extremely obvious lol, literally look the same, die and kill in the same way.
Y'all just now noticing? After the entire theme of the game? xD
@Sasha_Jones there is a choice at the beginning where Anthony have to choose where Tanya would go in the blazing House to save herself, if you choose window to she will burn to death, if you choose the pipes she will hanged to death, that's why there is a two different type of monsters of Tanya.
Hi! so I just responded to a message explaining the conquering of the demons, and thought I’d put it on here as it’s own comment so In the game each character has to conquer their own demon. The hint is basically the “Bearings.” For “Team Taylor” Taylor must feel as if she is a part of the group, and then at the end of the game she has to tell whoever is trying to help her (Probably Daniel) to save themselves she has to face her own demon in the end. For Daniel his Bearing is “Home Grown Hero.” He has to do heroic actions like attacking his demon with a knife, saving Taylor etc. Then at the end he has to tell Andrew to save himself since once again Daniel has to face his own demon in the end. John’s Bearing is “Authority Figure.” He needs to be the leader and a role model to the group, and once again in the end he has to reject offers of help from Andrew. Angela’s confused me a little bit, but I think I get it. Hers is “Deeper Understanding.” She has to question everything. Be intrigued by her double, but she also has to understand the group’s emotions. Feel sympathy towards them, in the end she shouldn’t ditch John. Stick with him and stand against the demons. Last but not least Andrew. This ones easy. Just help him set Mary free. Condemn the priest the true evil. If you condemn Mary everyone will die no matter what. I haven’t tested the doll, and I know that if you condemn the priest everyone who conquered their demons will be safe. If a character failed to conquer their demon they will die no matter what.
Short Version:
1. Daniel has to be heroic.
2. Angela has to be understanding.
3. Taylor has to be apart of the group.
4. John has to be the authority figure.
And in the end you must choose the “Heroic” choice rather than “Fearful.”
Hope this helps.
Oh yeah also I forgot about Vince. Just be nice to him and don’t shoot near him.
Edit: Oh also one more thing I don’t think this is the best ending. One of the replies @Robyn Zero explains what I think is the best ending. I 100% think agree with them.
wow this is basically a guide on how to have a happy family where each member of the family has their own roles and responsibilities to keep the family peaceful.
Thank you for explaining:) just a small question: do you mean apart or a part?
There is also another possible ending, which is a secret one, but can be also considered a 'bad' one: to obtain it, Anthony should have a gun and pick every right choice with Vince so he forgives him and he doesn't end up in prison. Also, everyone has to die for it to unlock, and you should burn the doll instead of fucking the priest over, so I think you shouldn't let the characters conquer their demons, and as you said they'll die regardless in the end... thus re-enacting within the historical setting what actually happened to Andrew when the house burned down. To me, this sad ending is surprisingly fitting and ends up 'healing' Anthony anyway, because it's as if he accepts that he could do nothing to save his family and gets rid of his guilt, also accepting that they were flawed but that he loved them regardless. Most importantly, he gets to help and tell Mary/Meghan that he cared about her and that he understands what she felt and went through. When his guilt is too much and he's about to shoot himself like in the suicide ending, Mary/Meghan's memory hugs him and stops him. IMHO among all bad endings, this is by far the best one (also moving).
@@robynzero623 I actually made a comment just like this in the “Megan stops Andrew from killing himself.” Video. I 100% agree.
@@flyingrabbits7137 I’m not good with grammar, but now that I’m thinking about it probably a part. I’ll fix it right now.
"If we had children of our own none of this would happen"
So they're adopted?!
Yes. This is your homer simpson moment...DOH
Or they belong to one of the parents from a previous relationship. But yes I think they were most likely adopted.
No only megan is
i think so? not sure
@@datdefaultboi6779 they all are, hence why anthony reimagined his siblings dating . they had a secret relationship kept from angela who was the mother
I actually really liked this, maybe more than Man of Medan. Very sad it's over, going to go watch like four different playthroughs of this.
Yea, I agree that its better than Man of Medan. The lore and setup makes everything more convincing and the twist at the end sure is both a surprising and heartbreaking, without feeling too much like a deus ex machina and it explained so much.
Yeah, I really didn't like Man of Medan, saying ''oh yeah all those jumpscares and monsters ? Just because you inhaled some shit'', it was a lame excuse. While here I really like how they put his past into that Mary, Amy,... And that ancient style.
I'm just kinda disappointed cause again, there was nothing surnatural and it was again ''all hallucinations'' but it was way better made than Man of Medan and made the story interesting from A to Z (I always waited for Mary's jumpscares to see the past). I thought that it was some kind of curse including 5 people who would die from the same deaths over and over again, no matter what they do
@@lcdc_azuralie Man of Medan is literally an exact copy of a movie called ghost ship. It's pretty pathetic.
@@lcdc_azuralie
Honestly, it's better than saying it's supernatural.
Man of medan is inspired by real events of the SS Ourang Medan, a ghost ship.
The ending had my head spinning like what that’s just sad realistic he lost his family and he imagined his friends/family was right beside him but he was alone he basically went crazy and was just lost 😢
I CRIED like crazy tbh
@@shreksman8257 I was not expecting the ending to turn like that it was a good game it was definitely better then man if medan
@@harrison3432 Man of Medan is Underrated. All of them are fantastic! Of couse
@@Assassin199410 true but little hope was definitely better
@@harrison3432 Both are amazing the same way!
To me it seems like all games of this series will revolve around one psychological aspect. Man of Medan was fear. Little Hope was guilt.
What about until dawn? Maybe it has something to do with Josh’s loss? Like revenge maybe. Revenge, fear, and guilt (idk if u watched until dawn either but I would recommend it and would say it’s my fav in this series so far!)
@@cassie.k007 Yes I did watch Until Dawn and I also think it is the best, but it is not part of the anthology so I dont think it thematically ties in.
But otherwise I think you are right and would maybe add actions and consequences to your list.
@@cassie.k007 I know there's supposed to be eight games. I wonder if there's some sort of link to the seven deadly sins? Or something similar.
@@alainaluu So far they have only announced 1 more game is this anthology. However, they could possibly make more.
@@cassie.k007 until dawn isn’t apart of the anthologies, its its own stand alone
I was like "Wait Vince could've recognized Taylor if he saw her, right?" Then I saw one of the endings and was like, "Ohhhhhh..."
I wonder what his Reaction would have been if he actually saw her. Maybe it was something like David's when he sees her. (In the Curator's cut you can be Daniel in the Church and have a 1600's thing again and Daniel's Double is happy seeing... His sister? I dunno. It feels more like Wife than Sister but I dunno. Wonder if Mary was Adopted too.)
me playing the game for the first time:
the police officer: you okay buddy you seem a little confused
Yeah i get that
I got the ending where no one survives
Him looking in the back going “yeah I doubt they will mind much” is when I realized the bus was empty.
But I was surprised to find people on the bus.
And it was weird . But it makes sense .
What don’t make sense is the bar tender (I forget his name and I don’t just wanna call him black guy) riding around on his bike at night and living in a dead town ._.
@@IZabellaArtZ the bar tender is tanyas boyfriend vince since anthony and him didnt die
Who came here after Jack/Sean's bad ending? lmaoo
........
Me
Me lmao
He got a different ghost for Taylor than this video had!!!!
@@princessblackout that's because there's two ways Taylor can die in the house fire. Sean chose the drainpipe which made herself be hanged and in this video the player chose for her to go through the window instead which made her be burnt alive, hence why there's a different ghost/ghoul for Taylor compared to Sean's playthrough
Atleast, this game has taught me that sometime reality can be so cruel and the most terrifying. I really sorry for Anthony and (little) hope that he can finally forgive himself and move on from his past.
In 1 ending... He gets better in 1 other but that is him realizing none of it was real and he's still sick
So apparently our main character, Anthony suffers ptsd because little sister or him (not certain yet) caused the fire which led to the death of all of his family. Anthony's 60 or so years later comes back to site where his family was killed or the town where he was at as a bus driver(explains the strange transformation of the student into the bus driver/anthony) in order to cope with his family's death and in order to forgive himself or his sister (whoever caused the fire) he creates a imaginary fantasy world where the students and professor with each character representing a significant character in Anthony life (little girl=little sister)
Most people forget the bus accident. Its not just PTSD, he also crashed his head against something and even forgets who he is.
I think he might have forgotten or mixed-up what have happened because it's not explained if the little girl was intentionally trying to kill them or if the girl just left her toy in the wrong spot
Alright, so this is the story: Megan, his little sister started the fire. She felt misunderstood, failed at school and obviously struggled with mental illness. She kept lashing out because of those reasons, and that's why her parents disciplined her in a rough manner (as you can see in the book found in the ruined house). They sought help from a priest (you know which one) but he only made matters worse as he was practicing occult/dark magick and it's implied he m*lested her. Megan, tormented by her inner demons (the demon you saw at the start) planned to kill her whole family. And did so. Not Anthony.
After the events, Anthony does suffer from severe PTSD, amnesia, trauma etc. To make matters worse, he was arrested and people thought it was his fault. So he goes back to his hometown, Little Hope, after crashing the bus and suffers from schizophrenia there where he imagines his deceased family members and gives them new names. He finds ways to blame people. That's what the witch trials represents. He starts with his mother, Anne (Angela), then Taylor, Daniel and eventually John, who all face their demons who represent how they died (Daniel's demons have spikes, he dies through impalement, Taylor's demon represents hanging or burning, depending on how you made her die at the start etc.) They all turn out to be innocent and wrongfully died for no reason. Until the story ends with Megan (Mary) who was the actual culprit and Anthony has the choice of either blaming her (burning her at the stake) or the priest. If you blame her, Mary will once again lash out, saying no one understands her and Anthony is just like the rest. If you blame the priest, Anthony knows he is the one who caused Megan to actually do what she did.
@@Hoosje11 Perfect
@@Hoosje11 finally, i couldnt really connect the priest with the rest
no matter how the storry ends ... it is just sad, he lost his whole family and couldn't move a finger , whilst holding the matches in his hand
So inside his head he was still blaming his sister, he either judge her guilty or innocent, he either forgive her or keep a grudge against her, where the existence of the trial. He either wants the guy who saw him with lighters, the judge, to know that it’s partially his sister’s fault if they died, he was tormented for years by his judgement, by everyone’s judgement. Because in the end he was the only one who knows why the fire grew. Mary doesn’t even appear in the group so it really was Andrew holding a final judgement about Mary, wether he hates her to the point of burning her or forgive her and letting go of all his negative emotions towards her...
Yeah that was the whole point of the witch trials you had an option to say it was the doll or say it was a priest by not choosing the doll you forgive her
But she is guilty!! The beginning is all true, and she locked her mom and the father. There is true evil there, and they all paid for it.
@@lilovs9952 Expect for we learn via notes and such that its the Reverend Carson's (the one from the 70s that the family went to for church) fault as he is a member of a satanic cult who pushes Megan (70's Mary) into a fearful state causing her to start the fire and kill her family. The doll represents her imaginary friend (the big demon-handed guy) that comes from the neglect/trauma she has going for her.
Can someone explain guys about vince and andrew in the funeral?
@@jam4678 Vince was Tanya’s boyfriend. Vince believed that, since Andrew was seen outside the house with matches on his hand, he had killed everyone in the house, including Tanya.
Every single one of these endings makes me cry, even the "good" one. I think people are forgetting too that he was hallucinating before he even got to the town, so he still had some mental illness due to ptsd, but even still he got some closure by getting over his demons.
I love how Vince insists on following Andrew around all night and then doesn't like it when he keeps seeing him or when Andrew tells Vince to leave him alone.
I wish you named or numbered all the endings or both.
Facts
fucking agree
The similarities of the deaths shouldve been a hint all along.
John - crushed like his dad.
Taylor - burned likr his sis
Angela - drowned - bathroom trap
Daniel- paled in the fence like his brother.
The game is psychological really good. And symbolic as well
she didnt burn she was hung
@@rvrbs259 It was both
@@rvrbs259 it changed based on choices
@@rvrbs259 I like the burned creature more, but they both happen depending on whether she climbed the railing or went back into the house
Angela didn’t drown she suffocated
"You guys are getting killed?!"
This still doesn't explain the demon that was standing behind Meghan or who was talking to in the beginning of the game when you hear her voice as Anthony. I suppose we could say it was her "imaginary friend" since nobody else wanted to talk to her? Or, like the theme of the game has revealed, that it was her own psychological "demon" she was trying to confront....which, unfortunately, in the end, won out, thus her setting the house on fire.
Actually, the prologue we see is Anthony's dream, so its his point of view. He sees a demon because he doesnt want to be blamed for his family's death, so he tries to blame it on his little sister and some kind of supernatural stuff.
@@TheIceFlowe Meghan locked the door on his mom and took the ladder down too tho
@@snooopypp2676 another good explanation would be that Meghan was abused by the reverend/priest, so he made her do bad things, and the demon behind her is his influence.
@@TheIceFlowe I personally don't think it's a dream at all
It was Anthony's dream and his point of view of the matters. The truth is that Meghan was abused by Carver just like Mary. Anne says that the reverend had held her back for a long time after church hours on Sundays. Meghan was not bad at all it was just how Anthony thought it was. The demon behind her was also on Anthony's imagination. He was the one who lit the fire and he might have pushed the blame on to his sister because he felt guilty. The doors of their house were faulty at the start they jammed due to the snow. So, Tanya got locked out like that, we see that Daniel's ladder shakes by itself not because of Meghan and the mom could have just locked herself in the bathroom. Now, after all these years Anthony wants to do justice to his sister cause he feels that she might not be the reaosn why it all happened and he understands that the reverend was the true evil. He connects his personal story to the witch trial because we know that Little hope is a place known for that and he was also reading a book about witch trials at the beginning. The curator had pointed out so many times that our own demons are inside us. It was the biggest hint of the whole game.
I love the witch trials aspect to this game. They're a reflection of Andrew's guilt.
"But I didn't save you."
I still dont get what that line means..
Still would've liked it more if it wasn’t all in his head that feels like such a cop out
@@axiphermiik4390because they all died in the fire
All of the endings mean one thing: "No matter how much you want to change things, the past will stay the same." The "double" monsters just ensured it, no matter how hard Anthony tries to save them, or even imagines saving them; the past still happened, nothing can change that.
This is messed up he was hallucinating the whole time and HE WAS THE BUS DRIVER THE WHOLE TIME cant wait until Berleezy find out about this
Ikr! And same
bro- Berlin, Joe, PG, and Dontai are gonna go innssaannneee
That’s Fr where I just came from, I was so shook when I seen this I can’t wait till they see the end also considering how much they bring up the bus driver
I just hope they don’t fuck it up and get the bad ending
😂😂😂
Little Hope just launched
BabyZone : I AM SPEED
*snorths meth*
LETS GOOOO
WOOOOOOO
Yes?
@@iamspeed403 hello buddy :;D
This is an interesting ending, but I kind of don’t want every Dark Pictures to be a real world thing disguised as supernatural stuff. It worked for me in Man of Medan, but this time I honestly would have preferred time loops to what we got. It makes sense and everything, but idk. I think I get now why some people felt let down by Man of Medan.
I honestly really liked this game because I felt like it was super real people who go through severe trauma really go through this kind of stuff and the fact that everything that you had done and everything that you went through was all in this guys head which is really scary and sad
And I’m pretty sure the whole thing was about him actually just trying to forgive his sister
No cap im sitting here like damnnn reincarnations, dope witch trial shit, doppelgangers, sick time loops, and it turns out to be a fucking sob story about schizophrenia fml
@@donmoez6289 Honestly I do agree with the confusion it was a huge slap in the face and it surprised me but I liked the idea of it cause I never expected it to be a all in your head thing but considering the last game was like that I should’ve expected it hahah
Though I do genuinely like the way this game was someplace I didn’t like but I did enjoy it end it made me feel extreme empathy for the main guy the fact that he couldn’t MoveOn after all those years after losing his family 🥺
@@donmoez6289 and whats wrong with thats this is definitely dark pictures best work as far as story as the story goes
@@dolph0w0 yeah i see how it is a sick story if u enjoy that kind of perspective, but im just sick of them reverting every twist to a real life ting
*when you realize anthony clarke, the person you play as in the first moments of the game, is the bus driver*
WAIT A MINUTE
That plot twist was the biggest plot twist I’ve ever seen
@F1re_ One Truly? It was all a dream is extremely overused.
Hol' up wait a minute
Something ain't right !
@@bigbadwolf3199 It might be overused but most or many people didn't expect that. Still, SM made good use of it. Gotta hand it to 'em
@F1re_ One Nothing is resolved in the end. None of the characters we've followed really change, they don't have arcs, and they don't really matter. None of the choices matter to the twist. And now any more of these games that come out will be extremely predictable.
Felt like my choices didn’t amount to much when all the characters and demons weren’t real. Takes away a bit of the replay value.
this
Man of Medan had the same problem.
@@ShadowMancer97 i see what you mean but it's different with man of medan because those characters were real and could actually die, it was just the threats that weren't for the most part besides Olson
The takeaway from all this? Don't let some streamer's awful take ruin a game for you.
It actually does matter, not in the way you think it had less to do with the characters dying. More to do with Andrew, based on if he forgives himself or continues to blame himself or what happened to his family. And considering that Andrew can commit suicide in this games it's safe to say that yes, it didn't matter for those characters but most of those choices affect Andrew. May not be the thing you wanted but the choices do have impact.
For some reason, Daniel and Taylor died with me before they left the house at the end.
(I know why, if you call for help when you're monster is attacking you, you die on the house)
(Another edit)
All deaths are from the elements.
Water: Angela
Fire: Tanya
Air: Daniel
Earth: John
Yeah if you call for help while the demon is attacking you. The demon will kill that character at the end
I literally lost EVERYONE at the end. I was like WHAT HOW. Guess next run I'll stay silent for the monsters. Got a trophy for it though.
Why the hell does that happen? Like that seems like some BS
it doesn't make any sense to me , why do your character should die just for asking for help. is there an explanation for this ?
@@joansman1 maybe because if you are fearful your character dies? Idk
There's an ending where the guy in the end (as the officer pulls up) says how he has a gun and the officer draws his gun on him.
Is this true?
@@Xaphatt yes i have this one
@@Xaphatt I searched up little hope ending guy gets shot and found it
@@orang9134 I don't think you can get shot. Officer just pulls out his own gun on Anthony and arrests him. In that ending that dude in the bar uses the gun as a justification to why Anthony should be arrested.
@@SalvageET No look at the pinned comment thats what i was talking about when andrew shoots himself
The bus company is Farriman- ferryman. He ended up back there to take the souls of his family where they were going, as he said. He took them through that town, which gave them a last chance at their final destination: redemption or damnation (depending on player choices).
I finished the game yesterday and I loved the plot twist.
The thing that spotted me was the logo "Ferriman" on Andrews jacket. The ancient Greeks believed that all human souls went to the mythological underworld Hades.
Charon, a minor god, was given the task as the ferryman of Hades who carries souls of the newly deceased across the river Styx that divided the world of the living from the world of the dead.
*Good Endings:* 10:38 26:11
Thanks
I dont know about you people here, but for me the scene from 12:15 was the best in the whole game.
Where he says sorry, and all of them supporting him and forgiving, just for the reveal to happen, and then saying the best line in the whole game "I just wish we all could have made it"
It made me shiver, him knowing that they love him even after they died, him being real with his guilt and his sadness to know that he misses them (not being toxic positive, or depressive), and that they dont blame him is something I resonated a lot with.
To be honest, maybe I don't really understand. Appreciate it if someone can explain it to me. I know Vince is Tanya's boyfriend but how dare he be so rude to Andrew/Anthony? Like he literally just watches 4 family members died right in front of his eyes. And vince be like OUHH YOU THOUGHT YOU LOST EVERYTHING, I WONT FORGIVE YOU. Like bruhhhhh anthony/andrew obviously suffer more but why vince wanna make it seems like he's the one hurting the most.
I think so
In the prologue the neighbour caught Anthony holding matches right at the moment where the house engulf in fire. So maybe Vince accusing Anthony burning his whole family, so that's why he said "You thought you lost everything?" Cuz in Vince's perspective Anthony incinerated his whole family
Vince blamed him for the family's death, especially he was accused of arson and murder, which strengthen his anger towards anthony
Late response, but I think Vincent will act differently towards Andrew/Anthony based on you act towards him. Dialogue choices and if you acquire a gun and shoot at a monster behind him he thinks you are trying to kill him. If you don't do those and have 'good' dialogue with him then he will be nicer to him. And get the good/best ending. People accused Andrew/Anthony of the fire because he had matches and was outside so at face value it looks like he did it. He also told Tanya to either go down the drainpipe or go back inside the house, which someone would argue he killed her when both options were kind of bad. And that Andrew/Anthony was really trying to save her. Plus a lot of people want to blame someone when something bad happens, but sometimes accidents happen it's not something that brings everyone comfort.
I read something about Vince's father dying in the house fire when he went in to rescue Andrew/Anthony. So if that's correct Vince lost both his girlfriend and his father in a fire that he may or may not believe Andrew/Anthony caused.
If this story had happened in reality. In the very beginning that petrol Cop wouldn't let that bus driver go any further. Because he had a sign of psychological problems..he was delivering some people in his thoughts
I think the cop took his explanation as a joke that's why he said nah the other road that lead through little hope wouldn't bother them either
@@TheYago93 if you see the ending. You will see that the cop didn't take that as a joke
@@MEHDIZed3D how? he smiled
@@babe9458 look at the ending again. When the cop freaks out
If this was real life, the cop would’ve asked the driver to step out of the bus and walk in a straight line.
This is so much better than Man of Medan. The dialogues, the story telling, the narrative ... everything has been improved upon and I actually really enjoyed this game
One thing I learned about these devs is they just like psychological warfare. In Until Dawn it’s about (I forget his name) but the guy who’s sisters were killed and he’s suffering from ptsd & schizophrenia (I forget if it’s both or just one, it was a long time ago) and he starts to blame himself for his sisters’ deaths. In man of Medan, everyone is going crazy cause of the gas/chemical and think there’s actual treasure but they end up getting killed (or not) because they start hallucinating. And in this one, it’s all about Andrew/Anthony and his ptsd after thinking he’s the cause of his family’s deaths
Yeah, but at least in Until Dawn, there actually WAS an element of the supernatural and it wasn't a bait and switch for mental issues. I mean, it's clever, don't get me wrong, but after this second one it's a sure bet that the last one will have a mundane explanation for all the spooky stuff happening. Kinda kills the suspense if you know that events are someone's hallucinations.
You're thinking of Josh
Spoilers for Until Dawn
I love how there is no good ending for Josh, the only endings for him are to die or become a monster himself
@@sunshinegamer1981 At the start of Little Hope, I went "well Man of Medan faked out the supernatural elements, if this one does the same I'll be pissed". Then it did. It'll make the third game even harder to believe now.
@Trajan the Great I think all of the Dark Pictures Anthology are going to be in the same vein. Something psychology based that can explain the spooky supernatural stuff as mundane and easily explainable, if no less horrible. Now that we know what to expect from the last couple of games, all we have to figure out is how they're going to explain it away as "it's all in your head" in the next....six games or so? So it's not like we won't have any mystery to solve. We'll just know that the horror isn't going to be anything supernatural.
@@sunshinegamer1981 Personally that ruins a lot of the enjoyment of the games for me. If that's fine with you, fair enough, but now that I know there is a formula it's a lot harder to be invested. Especially as the characters, dialogue and gameplay so far haven't very compelling, so you haven't got other things to focus on.
That premonition at 0:39 is a hint for the upcoming Dark Pictures game. Judging by the premonition, im guessing the theme of the next game is more Tomb Raider-esque and Indiana Jones like.
Yup, they released the trailer like 10 hours ago.
House of ashes
One of the characters is voiced by the lady who voiced Candace in Phineaus(I know I spelt it wrong)and Ferb
@@pendingauthor2536 I think your thinking of Ashley Tisdale?
LaDivinaLover yeah I think that’s her
One thing I learned about this game's ending mechanic is to avoid negative traits getting locked when you're dealing with the conversation moments, else the character on which the trait gets locked will get killed by their monster version at the end no matter what choice you make from that point.
So the game won't go deeper into the fact that the lil girl at the beginning had a demon on her side and cause the burning and also locked all other family members up in their room?
LITERALLY LIKE WTF
I'm really mad lol
Yeah still confused about tht maybe the little girl had schitz
it was meant as the girl was always being shunned and ignored so in his mind to make himself feel like it was out of his hands he imagined megan as the culprit
I'd say she is schizophrenic. Now, I don't know how academically successful schizophrenic people are, but I assume they aren't that good and Megan's grades were awful. She also locked the doors behind Tanya and Anthony while locking their brother in the attic before burning the house. Anthony probably assumed she was controlled by the devil since he is into that occult stuff.
The people get killed like Anthonys family and the people in the past get also killed like that.
Tanya even have 2 deads, cuz you decides how she will die at the beginning > Strangled or burned. So thats decides how the Tanya from the past will die.
Daniel guy was
impaled by a fence, so the monster impales him - the guy out of the past was also impaled.
Mother/Angela
suffocated - The Angela from the past also kinda suffocated
Dads bones were chrushed. Also the bones from the professor - annnnnnnnnnnnnd soooo the dude from the past.
if you would have noticed that earlier you might have been able to link that together and kinda get the plot twist.
Uff. Lol. Not noticed that.
yea and the chains on angela sorta signify being locked in the bathroom
@@thundabird also Megan was the one that started the fire which caused everyone to die apart from Anthony and Mary also caused everyone to die because of the rumours and Abraham also never died
i noticed and still didn’t catch the twist😭😭
@@chychy0326 I assumed it was some kind of curse, making then reincarnate to relive a tragedy over and over. Instead.....
The ending was kinda cop out ish, but when you really think about the witch trials and how they connect back to Anthony blaming his family for the fire, it's kinda great. That ending blew my mind 100%.
its tarsh
Hmmmm so the real world explanation seems to be our character suffers from some sort of ptsd or scitz. Just like how the last one wasn't ghosts but chemical fumes but this one seems to be a mental disorder instead of witchcraft monsters makes you wonder what kind of theme they'll go for next and its logical explanation
He killed all the family in The picture. Then burned The House. He reCreated them in his Mind.
@@ArrozTioPelon To be fair he didn't kill then is was all just honestly bad timing
True. I was just trying to attach all The thing. But You are right there bro.
@@ArrozTioPelon I get what you mean but to be fair were both right in a sense being yes his family died in the fire and that probably caused a sort of ptsd response in his brain to remake them in a more modern way
Or maybe he was haunted and followed by the ghosts of his family after the incident and his mission on this journey is to find final destination to the soul, with some recreation of the souls identity, for there's some believes that souls forgot their original identity as human life. The main character could've just pretend with a identity matched up with the souls new identity. With some creepy item in this town like the book about witch and how abandoned and looks haunted this town, the game kinda want the player to think that the ending is still can be related to paranormal twist ending. But, to be honest, that psychological twist ending is the first thing I thought of
Okay, I'm going to present a pretty dumb theory that may be wrong, but also wouldn't invalidate the idea of saving everyone. (As well as provide an explanation for moments where the party split up).
I think there actually WAS a supernatural component to the story. I only just finished the game (incidentally, the other survivors in my playthrough were John and Angela), so I may be remembering a few things wrong.
Near the beginning, one of the characters (I think it was Daniel) presented the idea that they were all already dead. In addition, during his monologue at the end, the Curator said "some found redemption, some didn't". I also can't help but suspect that there was significance to Andrew/Anthony hearing the whispers of the other characters in the end.
Part of me suspects that we were in fact playing as the souls of the people who died in the fire that burned down the Clarke household. Their "survival" means they have overcome their flaws and can pass on peacefully, whereas their "deaths" means they have succumbed to their flaws and thus have been condemned to hell.
I may be wrong. Maybe it really is just one big hallucination. But there are a few plot holes here and there, and this theory of mine does present an explanation...
I agree with this!! The Curator even says that if they do die, they're condemned to a fate "worse than death." I think that whether or not they get out of the house is representative of whether or not they remain trapped in Little Hope forever!
That's what I thought! I was pretty sure that these incarnations happened for real because all these characters in their first life died horribly and before dying they deeply hated Marry, as she accused them in witchcraft, so their soles became restless full of hatred for that girl, that's why in next incarnation they still hated her inside and blamed if opportunity given, aside from Andrew, he was kind to her, because he never died in previous life because of her. So I really thought that driver Andrew without knowing delivered their soules to Little hope so that they could go through trials and forgive Merry. That actually sounds so much better than...what we got....I mean, now it really does seems that Andrew came up with all that shit in his head, take an asian judge for example....that's basically the dude who accused him of burning his family in prologue >___
I think it was all in his head, the curator was pushing for imagined redemption and forgiveness as a way to move on, basically being a psychiatrist. People who keep holding grudges and blame against others just hurt themselves.
I like this theory. Anthony is real and dealing with trauma, and the other characters are ghosts in pergatory.
This game really unique like how after you finish it you can no longer see it the same way as the first time you played it. Really spectacular story telling portrayed in a great way
Jacksepticeye really got one of the worst endings huh
I mean he saved Mary and Angela.
@@jonnieneuhart1861 but if they never existed, did he really save anyone?
@@solitary2 the character learned something
His Girl got a Worse ending. Everybody died, she shot Angela and Anthony got Arrested.
POV: your here after jacksepticeyes playthrough because he didn’t like the “it was all a dream” twist, so he’s not going to play for the other endings.
well i mean it isnt a dream- It's a man's delusions because of his trauma. I personally liked the ending and twist, it played with my heart strings
@@sam-zv2ku you right my bad
Remember it's a man who played and enjoyed LOU2.
@@Blaise_Blackwell and? you're going to judge every opinion of his bcs he liked a game you didn't? his opinion of the ending is agreeable because i too felt pointless to save them all when I know they arent real
i agree w jack 💁🏻♀️ the ending was bad imo. left me disappointed. like, that’s it?
0:00 -> Best
15:23 -> Good
16:41 -> Bad
I don’t care about what you, the player had to do to get it, but the ending where everyone dies in front of you and you’re peaceful with Vince is the GREATEST ending I wish I had. The plot twist being revealed like that would have made me so emotional.
But no, I thought I was saving Vince and I burned the fecking doll.
Thankfully I got that ending
The moment when you realize the bus driver had some mental disorder and the beginning is where his family dies. I also notice how the deaths in little hope relate to how the family died in the beginning. One was crushed, one burned alive, another impaled and finally the last one included how one couldn’t breathe.
Also if you try to help Taylor and you tell her to go from outside, she hang herself with her scarf.
Holy shit after reading a lot of these comments it makes sense now
Was this... hard to understand? Like, it took you a while to get that?
Hey it cost you nothing to not be mean
Wyatt L, Imean you literally have the bring everything you’ve experienced in the game together and figure out how it all ties together from analyzing from the beginning towards the ending instead of just looking at RUclips video and watch someone else explaination and go “oH hOw LoNg It tOoK u To FiNd tHiS” after literally reading only one comment that summarizes the whole entire plot.
You know, I've been wondering. Just what right does Vince has to shout at the guy? He wasn't the one that lost his entire family. He saw the guy literally run into a burning house to save his family in vain. Like, how much did you lost in comparison to him?
Vince sucks.
The frontal lobe plays a big part in the capacity for empathy, and a sloped forehead like Vince's thus makes it less plausible for him to be empathetic. Don't blame him, blame biology.
@@HYDEinallcaps Do you know where I can find an article or research paper on this?
@@HYDEinallcaps let’s not make up stuff lmao
@@HYDEinallcaps This sounds like something a conspiracy theorist would say.
The one where he has to watch the entire group die at the same time in the house. Holy shit. lol.
When a bus driver looks for the bus driver.
12/10 game honestly just amazing to me, you know a game is good when it makes you almost drop a tear on all of the endings man just amazing game
On my first try, I got the perfect ending where everyone survives and Anthony overcomes his guilt. I was pretty happy about it. This plot twist put in me in a deep state of contemplation, because there is a happy ending, but also a sense of tragic irony. But the pain and absurdity and darkness is outweighed by the light.
The beginning of the game is gutting, but the opportunity to save the reincarnations of the characters who soon cruelly met their ends provides hope. That hope is banished when you realized it was just Anthony going back to his roots and confronting his demons. I wanted to save Taylor and Daniel and Angela and John, I grew attached to them, but instead I realized I was just honoring their memory.
While I hate the whole "OoooOoooOO nothing was real" narrative, at least the no realness had some sort of meaning behind it.
Whether people like the ending or not to this story I gotta admit it’s the story that hit me in the feels the most because of how depressing it is no matter the ending you get.
I feel like there's no "good" ending in this story, only bad and worse.
The storyline was great,but I honestly can't feel the ending,its kinda sad that none of the characters we're real and it seemed like a waste of time for me to play this game...
Anthony really went “colonial OC’s for me and the fam ☺️💕✨”
thats the cycle where the same family got cursed by megan/mary from the purtian era to this era where anthony actually didnt die but has dementia
He's not schizofrenic, all of this is a result of his guilt,PTSD(of the deaths and having to go back to the town where everything happened) and his concussion. His trauma and guilt caused him to create this characters so his family could 'live again', now if he created them years ago or only when the cop said he had to go through the city idk. The concussion+ mental breakdown(due to having to go back to such a hurtful place) caused him to:get confused and not be able to tell what was real or not,forget he was 'real' and end up inserting himself in the story,create the monsters, and create that whole elaborate haunting storyline based on the city's history of trials. The whole trial was just a way for him to get his imaginary family and himself to move on and forgive themselves. It's very bittersweet.
But we see in the ending that he is literally talking to himself. *_As if all of the characters that he created are real._*
Yeah he is schizophrenic as a byproduct of his PTSD, his episodes involve schizophrenia
And to answer your question, it's pretty safe to assume he created them as soon as the officer mentioned Little Hope
his concussion happened after the bus crash tho and he was already having an episode before he was supposed to drive to Little Hope, remember he already thinks there's another passenger in the bus when the police man told him to take the route through little hope.
@@spacejesus6581 Sorry I worded it wrong. People were saying that he was schizophrenic and ignoring the other factors(concussion,guilt,...) and I tried to say that schizophrenia wasn't the only thing affecting him.
@@Jamushu I was talking about him thinking the monsters and the differences in the city(imagining the bridge being all messed up when it was actually just fine) were real.
Sorry for bad languange of my english...
The story is ...
Anthony was born in Little Hope ... He has a Family ... Tanya , Denise , Anne , James , And Megan ... Tragicly his house its burned by burning doll that Megan put it ...In Here i see Megan was very dissapointed by her broken home family and we can see that Megan did nothing , let her and family being died, but luckily Anthony has save himself from this accident and get out of the town
Year has been change ... And he is 45 i think ... He is a bus driver now and back to the home town when police ask him for detour to little hope ... Then, When he loss controll of driving by seen His Little Sister, His bus is Crash and this accident hit his head so hard and His mind is little broken of some short amnesia and replaced by his imagination (Illusion of past)
And The Old Century of 1899 (Correct me if im wrong) ... This is the urban stories of Little Hope ... Maybe this urban stories was telling by his dad or mom when Anthony is a child... maybe ... and he believe with that ... It explains why we seen Old Century , Another Version Of His Famillies and Ghost... But this thing is never existed (Only in his mind)
Andrew , John , Angela , Daniel and Taylor is another version of his imagination ... He want to create another version of his family then he mixed in his imagination about past so he feels never be alone again (and Old Century that he imagine ... Of Course)
And In The End... Anthony realized that he wasnt accept for his own Family being dead by the tragic accident in the past...At Last , now he back to the reality and he realized that The Past cannot be changed ... Its sad story ...
All correct but it was 1692
i only ever got the old andrew gets arrested ending
*spoilers*
I’m guessing if you condemned Mary, all the survivors (except Andrew since it’s Anthony the Bus driver) will all die cause of that decision, even though you made all the good decisions and their traits you’ll still lose everyone since you condemned Mary
Which is kinda weird since _she did cause the fire,_ unless Carver really was a stand-in for a demon presence controlling her (eg the shadow claw behind Megan before the doll is set on fire, her deliberately trapping everyone) in which case idk _why_ they would ever even consider going with a bullshit “nothing was real” ending. Like _cmon._
Sadly you also lose most of them even if you condemn the Priest instead. My understanding is that it has to do with their final character traits , and in my play through i made all the good decisions at least IMO and made them all nice to each other and somehow still ended up with bad character traits and lost all of them except Angela, which doesn't make any sense.This game judging system is completely unbalanced and broken!
@@culverine3010 You probably figured this out already, but if you didn’t let me help a little. In the game each character has to conquer their own demon. The hint is basically the “Bearings.” For “Team Taylor” Taylor must feel as if she is apart of the group, and then at the end of the game she has to tell whoever is trying to help her (Probably Daniel) to save themselves she has to face her own demon in the end. For Daniel his Bearing is “Home Grown Hero.” He has to do heroic actions like attacking his demon with a knife, saving Taylor etc. Then at the end he has to tell Andrew to save himself since once again Daniel has to face his own demon in the end. John’s Bearing is “Authority Figure.” He needs to be the leader and a role model to the group, and once again in the end he has to reject offers of help from Andrew. Angela’s confused me a little bit, but I think I get it. Hers is “Deeper Understanding.” She has to question everything. Be intrigued by her double, but she also has to understand the group’s emotions. Feel sympathy towards them, in the end she shouldn’t ditch John. Stick with him and stand against the demons. Last but not least Andrew. This ones easy. Just help him set Mary free. Condemn the priest the true evil. If you condemn Mary everyone will die no matter what. I haven’t tested the doll, and I know that if you condemn the priest everyone who conquered their demons will be safe. If a character failed to conquer their demon they will die no matter what.
Short Version:
1. Daniel has to be heroic.
2. Angela has to be understanding.
3. Taylor has to be apart of the group.
4. John has to be the authority figure.
And in the end you must choose the “Heroic” choice rather than “Fearful.”
Hope this helps.
@@deltasnowolf7957 It's funny how that is ALL hinted at the first fire scene, when they all die...
@@deltasnowolf7957 I actually didn't figure that out, but thanks for the explanation it does help. I mean i get that,that is what they need for their traits, but i was more in a mental state like: "this is like a horror movie and i have to have all of them stick together and not die and help each other and be a team to survive".
Little did i know that the characters were going to be judged for sticking together, lol. I guess it isn't called "Little Hope" for nothing.
this crazy, so there is no good, there is no bad ending, or best ending, he just a mentality problem, he need with his brain, also there was no devil, he was devil himself.
I had a stroke reading this :D Also from what I read I see that you are mentioning the fact that Andy/Andrew has mental health problems and then said and I quote, "he is just a mentality problem" Listen, as a person who struggles with mental health issues such as anxiety and depression, I can say that life is absolute hell with mental health problems and it might not be as bad as the way as the depicts it, or at least not always this bad but it's still really bad and sorry for ranting but I'm tired and irrated so I decided to write this comment
@@jacobthetransguytransboi7845 bro my bad, i am sorry, i didn't mean it like that, i was just surprise about the twisting ending because none of us though it was about to be like this, hope u doing well.
@@whisthegrandpriestonlychil1459 it's alright just gotta be careful how you word things is all
@@jacobthetransguytransboi7845 Anxiety and depression is all in your mind. Meaning, you have the power to FIX it. I know because I speak from experience. Trust and believe that NO pill will “cure” your mental problems, it will only suppress it and cause other problems. On the other hand, Schizophrenia is something completely out of your control. You can’t fix it. So, I don’t know why you’re ranting. Want to know how I solved my anxiety? I literally did the complete opposite. Yes, instead of “hiding” or blending in or trying so hard to NOT be noticed, I decided to go up to people and do pranks. Everyone was looking at me, some laughed at me, some got mad and judged me, but I slowly started to NOT care. I’m an extrovert now btw. Now, depression was a bit tougher. I had to ask myself why I was depressed in the first place, found the root of my problem, and decided to do something about it. My root of the problem was fear. I was afraid of lots of stuff. So, I decided to become fearless. Then, everything else started to fall together. Changed some habits. Opened up more. Forgiven myself and others. Now, I’m dying to live instead of living to die. Anyways, hope this helps. I know I’m making it sound easy, it’s not lol. It took some time but I feel great now. No pain no gain. 😂
@HopefulCookie yeah you are shunned for having depression nowadays tho, it’s the hard truth, people think any mental illness means you should be in a mental institution
18:47 When taylor said "it's okay you tried everything you could don't blame yourself it's not your fault" I think it was Anthony saying to himself that it was not his fault that they died
Not gonna lie, I thought there would be more to the lore rather than the usual 'it was just in his head' bs. To be honest, when I first watched playthroughs of this, I theorized that maybe these were people suffering from a dreaded curse for 3 generations; the Clarke family died the same way as the people in the witch trials, I even thought they were reincarnations of the same people, that's why they looked similar and had memories of their past lives but NOPE, it was all just in his head.
yeah, there was a moment for me when I thought that the little girl or this guy from the past were actually witches and that one of them casted a spell on the rest of the family so they would be reborned and then haunted by these demons/deaths from the past🤷🏼♀️
I do actually think that would've been more fun :) But I also enjoy the psychological aspect of the story
Especially since Man of Medan *kinda* did the same thing (although you can argue it was a little more ambiguous; you don't know if it was spirits or the toxic gas)
@@demonteprice5870 Definitely playing Man of Medan first gives you a headstart on some things... This aspect and the DO NOT USE WEAPONS aspect is present in both games, I hope they change that going into the next game and make the use of weapons something to actually defend yourself
I had the same idea in my head. Guess they went the cliche route but that means the next game they make will also be about natural hallucinations
I'm not really a fan of "it was all in their head/it was all a dream" endings, but I do think this was handled better than most stories that follow the same trope. The idea that the events stemmed from trauma and guilt is a very interesting concept. It does a good job tying the story together. The trials that falsely accuse people of being witches is a reflection of Anthony bring falsely accused of starting the fire.
Sometimes I can't tell if its hilarious or depressing that this game just literally boils down a senile old man walking around an desolate town
Vince was terrible, I get he lost his girlfriend, but Anthony lost his whole family, he didn’t need that hate and resentment.