It's stupid because Dinosaurs are animals that lived in a much more dangerous time (meaning they are much more dangerous than any other living animals today), and it's much easier to secure a little island off the Pacific than the entire Sub-Saharan Africa. Any moron who wants to poach in Isla Sorna will either be devoured by the dinosaurs or easily arrested by security.
Honestly, if I hadn't checked Klayton's channel, I would knew very little about the Jurassic Park lore, even if I consider myself a Jurassic Park fan...Much of his content is about things that I had absolute NOT idea about... Very happy for being a subscriber of yours Klayton, VERY HAPPY.
If they released dangerous dinosaurs in the continent (like at the end of the last movie) I'd totally clean gramp's 500 Nitro rifle and go fetch myself a dinosaur head.
Hearing all of this is very chilling. The fact that poachers would use the island for their own gain is sickening. And you're right in what would still survive, the smaller dinos but I have a sneaking suspicion that the Spinosaurus could still live given it's behaviour and new meals coming to the island.
Catch me in the brush with an HK417 assaulter recce rifle and a camouflaging raptor hunting down poachers. Sounds like a good time. Honestly I feel like a good standalone JP movie would be a rescue mission to an island goes awry with poachers who are on the island and it’s like a fight between man vs man vs Dino. The trailer opens with some epic drums “return to the island” hahaha
@@XteremePlay29 so having its spine hit and damaged by a propeller and yet not being paralyzed, which is what would have really happened, is because it's a super predator? Also how the hell does that mean it could survive a bite to the neck from a Rex? And before you use either the "subadult" or "inexperienced" argument here is this:www.jurassicmainframe.com/t543-jp3-tyrannosaurus-subadult . Again, it was all just a bunch of bs to make it seem threatening.
@@leviosdraekion6993 realistically its nueral spines ain't connected to its spinal cord so it wont cause it to be paralyzed. That info is from an outdated documentary that T.rex fanboys cherry picked to run with. About that bite now, I dont see fans complaining about rexy biting the Indominus multiple times saying "wahhhh it should a died there" Realistically, if the T.rex got that close it would have been swiped hard by the Spinosaurus arms possibly fatally injuring it.
Klayton fioriti, I have recently read a book called evolution of Claire. In the book it explain how before jurassic world came to be, people would trespass and hunted the animals. So when mr masuriani (I might have spelled it wrong) bought the island, he put up security around the island. But they still had problems until he hired Hawkins. I am not sure if the book is Canon but it connects with information you collect. You do amazing job on your videos.
Hi I love your Jurassic world videos 😉. You should make one about baryonyx surviving lava poured on it's head, why brachiosaurus didn't jump into the water to save itself,or how Eli Mills didn't hear or detect Rexy until it was too late.
Dinosaur hunting is dark. Maybe they killed the Spinosaurus on Isla Sorna? But there’s no doubt that we might be able to see humans hunting dinosaurs in JW3.
Yeah its pretty damm horrific because if your a dinosaur you might forced to watch your babies you parents and mates best friends get brutally and horrifically mauled and murdered and die right in front of you at the hands of the humans and some of your species might survive and others too but you will probably be traumatized for the rest of your cute dino lifes
I'm sure T-Rexes survived, Maybe Southern Raptor tribe (TLW) and maybe all of them (JP3&TLW) Maybe some other ones like Compys and other ones.. Maybe very few herbivores
After looking into the Lost World book, its safe to say that many dinosaurs had migrated to other island. If they are taking pieces from the books, one thing we'll always see are Raptors. But it makes me wonder if maybe a new breed of raptors may have some out. I would like to think some of the larger animals survived, but we'll have to wait for the movie. I would like to see how different countries have used their dinosaurs for them to have to hunt them down.
The Spinosaurus definitely survived. It could have easily swam to another island near by. Plus it's a fan favorite. Spino is such a beast that it caused an extinction on the island. Attracted to T.rex pee since it took them down before. It's like a real life Godzilla.
@@alexbenjaminlubbers If the Spinsaurus did go do one of the other islands then when all of the transporting from site b was taking place then they would not have found the it and most likely counted it as dead.
If you read the novels, it has always been very dark with the themes that nothing in nature is really in our control and sometimes violent outcomes can and will happen. Nature being a complex system is very unpredictable. That'- that's chaos theory.
@@Amarganeitor even that one isn't all that dark. It has it's moments, but I'd never put it on a list of dark movies. Especially compared to the novels
If the Spinosaurus were one of the Dinosaurs that survived, then I'm exited for JW3. Still has flashback of the Brachiosaurus that died in Fallen Kingdom! May it be in peace in heaven next to Cecil and Harambe. And Ceasar from Planet of the Apes Trilogy
I'd actually love a game set on Sorna/the five deaths where you get a very Far Cry and Alien Isolation feeling open world game playing as a dinosaur hunter or someone stranded on one of the islands.
I wish they left the Sorna-dinosaurs alone and keep their "happily-ever-after" from the Lost World. I'm still hoping that the tragedy was only a false-rumor created to keep the poachers away.
I have a weird theory that many of the larger dinosaurs died out on Sorna and that the velociraptors became the top predators on the island and I think that in order to survive the JP3 raptors and the tiger raptors interbred to survive.I also think that animals like goats and bulls that were used to feed the carnivores on the island filled the niche of large and small sized herbivores.Also I think that Compys would fill the niche of being small carnivores and maybe would grow a bit larger in size.I know it sounds crazy but I think something like that would be cool.
I'd imagine it's an island now primarily consisting of just Compys and Pterosaurs. We've never seen Microceratus, but it was cloned on the island, so it possibly survived due to its smaller size. It would make sense in the long run, that small animals as well as flyers would ultimately prevail on the islands. I guess the Spinosaurus could have survived off of fish, but it's practically extinct as its assumed to be the only clone of its species.
I honestly love how informative your videos are on this series... I always look forward to new uploads from you. Also, thanks for those flashbacks at the beginning of your video with the music. I can still hear those raptors screeching at me and that game over music... *Shudders* traumatized me as a kid lol.
This just makes me realise how many cool concepts we still have yet to explore . I really would love a novel or live action series about these periods of illegal hunting on sorna.
Great video again, Klayton! It's awesome to keep finding out new stuff about Isla Sorna. It is definitely my favorite island. I know that we have already been there twice in the films, but a part of me hopes that they will find a way to include it in the next one, even if it is only for half of the movie.
compies survived for sure, I kind of doubt things like Tyrannosaurs and the Spinosaurus would still be around though, they would be the big money specimens. Here's hoping JW3 gives us some concrete closure.
Dominion directly disproved the notion Sorna was dead since they showed us Buck and Doe in the valley that canonically holds dinosaurs either cloned by Biosyn, taken in from the escapees/sold off ones such as Rexy, and some Sorna dinosaurs.But they only started doing this after Lockwood Manor incident began so after 2018, therefore Sorna is not dead.I believe that the problem was when Masrani went to Sorna he realised that there were too many dinosaurs to capture, the island was too big and dangerous to be reliably used, and that the predators were far too dangerous such as the velociraptors as according to canon, only one raptor was brought to Nublar from Sorna for Jurassic world construction before 2005, and then after realising that the predatory dinosaurs such as the raptors were too wild and unpredictable, decided to clone new raptors and have them be raised by a person to be less dangerous to their handlers.So Sorna was left alone and covered up, Claire and the other workers were kept in the dark and fed the lies that it was empty, and only some were taken from Sorna partially to bolster the claim of the island having undergone a massive crash and that these were the last few ones.This is why the world seems to believe Sorna is dead and never make any suggestions to take dinosaurs to Sorna or that Sorna may still have some.
i think personally that most of the large meat eaters past on and only a few medium to small ones survive along with alot of the plant eaters like i belive the dilophosauras, metriacanthesauras, spino, compy, ceratosauras, suchominus, proceratosauras
I feel like only compys and the most elusive, fastest and smartest animals could survive like raptors and gally's. Also glad to hear that the...um..... medicine you got from that market in DangerVille hasn't given you any side effects, or do you have a 3 headed scaly draconic problem growing somewhere?
The idea of the poachers could make for a great idea for JW 3 or for a spin off series. I would love to see that some of the Site B raptors or even the Spino being held by some nefarious villain or even some species being taken of the island, only for them to get loose in Costa Rica, hiding within the jungles for years. Perhaps a small tribe of raptors or some Dilo's
I still personally think the (jp3) pteranodons on sorna are still alive there in the dome, just barely making a living. But the poachers busted through for some @$$ and they got loose
If i pick a dinosaur i may pick the ankylosaurus because the poachers can't damage it And the ankylosaurus will easily kill a human in one hit of its tail and the only way that the poachers may kill it if the go far away from it or shoot it from its legs so the ankylo can't move
Congratulations on the video! In fact, in Claire's book, Masrani is concerned about poaching in both Sorna and Nublar. I believe this is a much more tangible factor for the decline of Sorna than the breeding of illegal species. Now a video suggestion would be which of the 20 species presented to Sorna would have a real chance of surviving? This taking into account biogeographic factors and what was provided by information from Movie Canon.
I've never seen/read a reason why the dinosaurs on Sorna died, besides in the novels. In the movies I dont see why Site B or C couldnt still have dinosaurs. The big ones might easilly be made extinct again on Sorna but the littler and more intelligent ones might survive. I have also felt that maybe not all of the dinos left on Nublar necessarily died. I'm not suggesting they are still on the isle. It is unlikely but not impossible that some dinos could have swam to another island. Rats can swim for 3 days. Why couldn't a huge super strong, buoyant dinosaur do so as well? It would definitely swim faster than a rat. And life does find a way......
Love these videos thank you for the knowledge and being able to feel in gaps with these videos for me personally thank you and have a blessed day Klayton Fioriti
Damn that would be a cool movie, a group of poachers (maybe a professional one like Roland tembo) just flying onto sorna and hunting for raptors and spino’s. But getting absolutely destroyed ( I’ve been watching since 2018, and your content always pleases me and gives me new information about jp. Keep up the amazing work!
Really cool, and informative video. :) Personally, I'd bet on the Compies, and possibly the highly organized raptor tribe of JP3 to have somehow survived.
Species like a compy would have survived i believe, because they are small, if there aren’t too many, they could live of rats and other small mammals. They would be hard to hunt down because of their small size.
I think this is another stellar instance of what Malcolm was referencing when he said that dinosaurs need to stay extinct. Take away the hunting and there's still the Spino and the raptors that are over hunting and the DX virus (not the one's in JP 3 because they had ranks as opposed to the one's in the lost world).
I really like the fact that the franchise touches on the issue that is pouching. Killing animals for fun is one of the most ridiculous and pathetic things humans do, and I'd really love to see the Jurassic movies (or any other media) talking about that subject in a pedagogical, sympathetic way.
I think the only evidence that the Sorna dinosaurs were brought to Nublar came with Parasaurolophus and Compsognathus. Those two dinosaurs in JW films have the same coloration as the ones we saw in TLW. I would say Triceratops may be too, but their facial features just look slightly different I still think The Lost World should have wrapped up the franchise though. As Hammond and Ian said it, the dinosaurs should at least have been left alone. And if they extinct again, it's probably for the best. Nature chose them to extinct million years ago
Im currently reading the books for the first time and whenever you bring them up, I have to close the video😅its a little stupid on my part as I cant stay away from Klayton's videos for very long
As I recall one of the early trailers for Fallen Kingdom suggested that the volcanic event would take out the whole island chain, including Sorna. I'm all for seeing more on sorna just to find out what happened to the Spinosaur but I had thought the whole chain went up.
I'm pretty sure the compys survived. They're basically like the rats of Isla Sorna. In fact, I'm pretty sure they may have wiped out any rats on Isla Sorna. They're tiny scavengers who can subsist on insects, no way they were all wiped out, barring some sort of plague. And given that they're scavengers, it would have to be a pretty serious disease to harm them.
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I'm betting the big "trophy" species were hunted down first, but if modern bears and birds can move between close knit islands, it wouldn't surprise me if a strong Spinosaurus might have made a trip to find new hunting grounds and avoid competition on some of the other islands.
I know a TRex fell prey to Batman. Saw one in his Batcave in season 2 of Justice League lol Thats a scary hunter. N I dont mean the Tyrant Lizard King either xd
Kinda undermines the whole "Dinos make good weapons" theme of the new films. It also makes little sense considering nearly a hundred heavily armed men in TLW failed abysmally in hunts after their heavy vehicles were destroyed. To quote Mauler, "They would be shit in a war"
At around 1:04-1:07 part of the video when Klayton said that the dinosaurs had a wonderfully bizzare fairytale ending where Jurassic and Cretaceous era dinosaurs live in the same ecosystem made me realize something. Has and will the Jurassic Park franchise deliberately ignore the Triassic era when it comes to the dinosaurs from that time period? Just a random thought.
It would be cool if jw3 was on isla muerta, isla tacano, or any other island in Las Cinco Muertes. It would still be cool on the mainland, but I really want to see one of the other islands.
It is obvious that there are still Compys on the island, and I personally think that at least one tribe of raptors survived, as well as few Tyrannosaurs maybe. The Spino is just too aggressive and battle ready to have survived for very long. The hadrosaurs and Ceratopsians were likely impacted heavily by poachers and the outstanding number of predators though.
I would like to believe that small species like the Compys survived, but I'm not counting out both distinct raptor tribes, stegosaurs or the various hadrosaur species either, but that's just me.
I would imagine that some species might have survived on Isla Sorna. From different parts of the canon, we know that the smaller carnivores can be tenacious survivors. Raptors, Compies, maybe Dilos. They would be able to survive on smaller animals better than large carnivores could, including modern animals. But how many poachers tried to take carnivores alive like the old Topps comics? How many drug lords wanted a few rare, scaly pets, and how many of those escaped into the wild?
I think Site B might become the new safe haven in the end. With proper security. Site B has to have a large impact the finale. But something much darker might be lurking in it that might kill them all off slowly in the end. No way could it have just become a waste land.
I would not doubt it in the old noncanon Jurassic Park Comics a Poacher flew into Nublar to see if the rumors were true he captured three raptors which escape from containment on his plane
my suspicion would be the smaller dinosaurs survived...the compies and Microceratus in particular come to mind...probably some of the Pterasaurs as well
You missed the poaching notes in Evolution of Claire that mention the people trying to poach them would eventually succeed if they hadn't already, it was one of the reasons why Masrani was allowed to open Jurassic World.
I've never been of the opinion that all the dinosaurs on Isla Sorna are dead. Unless they wanna bring out the DX Virus again something would survive. As you pointed out the compys would easily still be around. I'd guess some of the smaller herbivores and at least a handful of raptors would still be around. It's also very possible that some dinosaurs made their way to other islands in the Muertes Archipelago.
I personally think that the Spinosaurus survived the chaos effect virus and everything that went down there. Just a hunch. Spinosaurs are piscivores after all, so maybe it could have survived solely off of fish. It’s not canon so it can’t be taken entirely seriously, but when you go to visit Sorna in JW Evolution, the Spinosaurus is alive along with a small group of stegosaurs. I think it’d be awesome if somehow the key to fixing the “dino crisis” (pun intended) going on in the mainland is located on Sorna in JW3. Who knows, though.
I think the sauropods would've died out due to their size but all the others would've survived to varying degrees with compys being most numerous. My reasoning being that the hadrosaurs would've stuck to the waterways and the stegosaurus and triceratops only being a couple times bigger than an elephant
I would think Compies would have survived if Isla Sorna has been overrun with poachers. A lot of us are still curious about Isla Sorna's fate whether it's still thriving with life or completely abandoned.
the sorna raptors were definitely a threat to the island but now they may be its best defence. species i would think possible to have survived were like you said more on the smaller side and maybe some of the more heavily armored herbivores it would take some serious firepower to get through an anky's armor and maybe some of the more stealthy mid sized carnivores, nocturnal species would also have better chances anyone stupid enough to go night hunting on sorna very likely was never seen again.
Tbh im not surprised if tourists can get past the quarantine of those islands its not a stretch for poachers either i would definitely say apatosaurs and other big animals were likely to fall prey to humans compys and even the rexes would be tougher
Dino bounty hunting might be in jurassic world 3
Hey is their funeral we ain't talked about hunting deers
MGSV logic applies?
Just air drop tanks or other heavy vehicles onto dinosaurs.
@@Gruntvc no sport in that, mate.
@@wolfthornnholtzklau4913 I wouldn't say hunting is a sport anyway. At least not with guns.
Dang your right
They have poaching going on today at Biological Preserves in Africa.
Why would anyone think it wouldn't be different for a Dinosaur Preserve?
It's stupid because Dinosaurs are animals that lived in a much more dangerous time (meaning they are much more dangerous than any other living animals today), and it's much easier to secure a little island off the Pacific than the entire Sub-Saharan Africa.
Any moron who wants to poach in Isla Sorna will either be devoured by the dinosaurs or easily arrested by security.
@@imgvillasrc1608 obviously some people went there as referenced by the human remains seen in the Pteradon nest.
Far more Human fatalities. :/
Poacher : Were heading off to Isla Sorna to poach some dinosaurs.
Every carnivore in a 2 mile radius : *I'm about to end these men's whole career.*
Talking_Hat Bazooka: Hold up one minute...
@@ksoundkaiju9256 Raptors : Oooh, real scary.
Talking_Hat Gatlin Gun: How about me?
KSound Kaiju Spinosaurs: I’ll take my chances
Brandon Davis Napalm: Yeah....you're gonna loose....
Honestly, if I hadn't checked Klayton's channel, I would knew very little about the Jurassic Park lore, even if I consider myself a Jurassic Park fan...Much of his content is about things that I had absolute NOT idea about... Very happy for being a subscriber of yours Klayton, VERY HAPPY.
Hey thanks man! Means a lot to me!
Imagine having a t.rex head mounted on your wall. I got that from the lost World book. Read It
Badass
@@KlaytonFioriti Thanks Klayton!
If they released dangerous dinosaurs in the continent (like at the end of the last movie) I'd totally clean gramp's 500 Nitro rifle and go fetch myself a dinosaur head.
If I see someone trying to kill a dinosaur, I’ll tackle them down.
@@denistyrant but you could clone more
Hearing all of this is very chilling. The fact that poachers would use the island for their own gain is sickening. And you're right in what would still survive, the smaller dinos but I have a sneaking suspicion that the Spinosaurus could still live given it's behaviour and new meals coming to the island.
@joshua ashley I don't know.
Imagine being a dinosaur conservation officer, tasked with anti-poaching operations.
Yeahhh
I bet that would look good on a resume!
I’d quit my job and do whatever I had to for that job
Catch me in the brush with an HK417 assaulter recce rifle and a camouflaging raptor hunting down poachers. Sounds like a good time. Honestly I feel like a good standalone JP movie would be a rescue mission to an island goes awry with poachers who are on the island and it’s like a fight between man vs man vs Dino. The trailer opens with some epic drums “return to the island” hahaha
What's the need of anti-poaching officers when the dinosaurs can easily do the defending themselves?
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@@KlaytonFioriti yes
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Absultlely!
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No one:
Hunter: are we being hunted?
Rexy: Yes, yes you are. >:)
@@denistyrant spino: all of you are
@@brodoodtv8343the camouflaged carno pair: hunts
You can't poach the spino. Damn thing survived a 50 Cal, airplane to it's sail, and a Trex bite to the neck.
Roland could take him down with two tranqs.
All of which is complete and total bs just to make it look threatening.
@@leviosdraekion6993 Or maybe it was that much of a super predator? Irl fighting Carcharodontosaurus and other predators etc.
@@XteremePlay29 so having its spine hit and damaged by a propeller and yet not being paralyzed, which is what would have really happened, is because it's a super predator? Also how the hell does that mean it could survive a bite to the neck from a Rex? And before you use either the "subadult" or "inexperienced" argument here is this:www.jurassicmainframe.com/t543-jp3-tyrannosaurus-subadult .
Again, it was all just a bunch of bs to make it seem threatening.
@@leviosdraekion6993 realistically its nueral spines ain't connected to its spinal cord so it wont cause it to be paralyzed. That info is from an outdated documentary that T.rex fanboys cherry picked to run with. About that bite now, I dont see fans complaining about rexy biting the Indominus multiple times saying "wahhhh it should a died there"
Realistically, if the T.rex got that close it would have been swiped hard by the Spinosaurus arms possibly fatally injuring it.
I think the raptors and spino are for sure alive
what about the compies, pteranodons and stegos! (they bred fast!!!)
Calvinv raptors to fast
Compies for sure
Isla sorna is only 30 miles from Isla Pena so the spinosaurus could of swam to isle Pena
I know that the dinosaurs in isla sorna are still alive because we maybe see it in jurassic world camp cretaceous
Klayton fioriti, I have recently read a book called evolution of Claire. In the book it explain how before jurassic world came to be, people would trespass and hunted the animals. So when mr masuriani (I might have spelled it wrong) bought the island, he put up security around the island. But they still had problems until he hired Hawkins. I am not sure if the book is Canon but it connects with information you collect. You do amazing job on your videos.
Hi I love your Jurassic world videos 😉. You should make one about baryonyx surviving lava poured on it's head, why brachiosaurus didn't jump into the water to save itself,or how Eli Mills didn't hear or detect Rexy until it was too late.
Awesome video Klayton Fioriti about the dinosaur hunting season in the Jurassic universe.
I still miss the old intro and hope it will come back someday
I have plans of bringing it back for special events haha
@@KlaytonFioriti Glad to hear that :D
@@KlaytonFioriti I love the 'Final Jurney To the Island'. It's just......awsome!
Second your original intro....😍
Dinosaur hunting is dark. Maybe they killed the Spinosaurus on Isla Sorna? But there’s no doubt that we might be able to see humans hunting dinosaurs in JW3.
I do think it would make an interesting movie though JP 4 hunters and prey. would make it so that both humans and dinosaurs are both hunter and prey
Denis Tyrant yeah I thought about that but maybe it’s still on the island
NO IF THEY TRY TO POACH THAT BOI THERE DEAD
Yeah its pretty damm horrific because if your a dinosaur you might forced to watch your babies you parents and mates best friends get brutally and horrifically mauled and murdered and die right in front of you at the hands of the humans and some of your species might survive and others too but you will probably be traumatized for the rest of your cute dino lifes
The Jp3 spino was in the Netflix show.
The whole dinosaur hunting/poaching reminds me of the Carnivores mod Jurassic Park Hunter: Legends.
I'm sure T-Rexes survived, Maybe Southern Raptor tribe (TLW) and maybe all of them (JP3&TLW)
Maybe some other ones like Compys and other ones.. Maybe very few herbivores
But t rex and raptors can't survive without a large population of herbivores to
@@thejack9178 maybe Clair lied in the website to protect the dinosaurs ... We will find out in ghe next movie
@joshua ashley hebdied by the Pterodactyls, Eric Kirby got off as shown in movie he ran to find a shelter Ben dies, YOU hear the screeching from them
@@TakashiCastellon1993 yes hope so
@@thejack9178 i think we'll have same outcome from novels they all die even Blue and Roberta (Rexy)
After looking into the Lost World book, its safe to say that many dinosaurs had migrated to other island. If they are taking pieces from the books, one thing we'll always see are Raptors. But it makes me wonder if maybe a new breed of raptors may have some out. I would like to think some of the larger animals survived, but we'll have to wait for the movie. I would like to see how different countries have used their dinosaurs for them to have to hunt them down.
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The Spinosaurus definitely survived. It could have easily swam to another island near by. Plus it's a fan favorite. Spino is such a beast that it caused an extinction on the island. Attracted to T.rex pee since it took them down before. It's like a real life Godzilla.
I thought the Spinosaurus was confirmed dead by the DPG.
@@alexbenjaminlubbers If the Spinsaurus did go do one of the other islands then when all of the transporting from site b was taking place then they would not have found the it and most likely counted it as dead.
@@WilliamRConley
It would probably have been counted as missing otherwise.
@@alexbenjaminlubbers It's whereabouts are unknown.
@Josh Adams it's a retcon. Or we would have seen it in Jurassic World.
This is dark. Who knew JP would get so dark?
If you read the novels, it has always been very dark with the themes that nothing in nature is really in our control and sometimes violent outcomes can and will happen. Nature being a complex system is very unpredictable. That'- that's chaos theory.
Um..anyone who deeply follows the franchise in any way lol
This is the same series where dinosaurs make an entire blood buffet out of humans and you think that wasn't already dark?
Dude... did you even watch the first movie?
@@Amarganeitor even that one isn't all that dark.
It has it's moments, but I'd never put it on a list of dark movies.
Especially compared to the novels
If the Spinosaurus were one of the Dinosaurs that survived, then I'm exited for JW3.
Still has flashback of the Brachiosaurus that died in Fallen Kingdom! May it be in peace in heaven next to Cecil and Harambe. And Ceasar from Planet of the Apes Trilogy
And Buck the Martyr.
I'd actually love a game set on Sorna/the five deaths where you get a very Far Cry and Alien Isolation feeling open world game playing as a dinosaur hunter or someone stranded on one of the islands.
I hope we get to see some people attempt dino poaching in Jw3
I wish they left the Sorna-dinosaurs alone and keep their "happily-ever-after" from the Lost World. I'm still hoping that the tragedy was only a false-rumor created to keep the poachers away.
I have a weird theory that many of the larger dinosaurs died out on Sorna and that the velociraptors became the top predators on the island and I think that in order to survive the JP3 raptors and the tiger raptors interbred to survive.I also think that animals like goats and bulls that were used to feed the carnivores on the island filled the niche of large and small sized herbivores.Also I think that Compys would fill the niche of being small carnivores and maybe would grow a bit larger in size.I know it sounds crazy but I think something like that would be cool.
Most poacher deaths were a result of A) a sickle in the back or B) Their plane getting trashed. :P
C torn in half while drowning
Never clicked so fast before, with other channels of course.
*Those poor dinosaurs are in the animal afterlife with Cecil and Harambe*
Well said (:
Who is Cecil?
@@elisabethschepers3398 A well known lion that was killed by a hunter.
Elisabeth Schepers Lion that was killed by a Dentist
ShadowBeast Ohh Yes I remember that wasn't the hunter a dentist if I remember correctly?
So basically they were DinoHunt Corp. from the Carnivores Games
I'd imagine it's an island now primarily consisting of just Compys and Pterosaurs.
We've never seen Microceratus, but it was cloned on the island, so it possibly survived due to its smaller size.
It would make sense in the long run, that small animals as well as flyers would ultimately prevail on the islands. I guess the Spinosaurus could have survived off of fish, but it's practically extinct as its assumed to be the only clone of its species.
We need a prequel movie about what happened site B because that took place the same time as the 1993 Isla Nublar incident
6:10, I remember hearing about the Raptors being cannibals, after their food supply started to dwindle.
Love the Sea Shepherd inclusion at 6:52! MV Bob Barker and MV Sam Simon pursuing the Thunder!
8:34 broke my heart but then released it is just a fantasy
I honestly love how informative your videos are on this series... I always look forward to new uploads from you. Also, thanks for those flashbacks at the beginning of your video with the music. I can still hear those raptors screeching at me and that game over music... *Shudders* traumatized me as a kid lol.
This just makes me realise how many cool concepts we still have yet to explore . I really would love a novel or live action series about these periods of illegal hunting on sorna.
It would be cool to see some sort of dinosaur conservation idea in any future Jurassic world show.
Great, now I want a Turok: The Dinosaur Hunter cross over game/comic with Jurassic World.
Great video again, Klayton! It's awesome to keep finding out new stuff about Isla Sorna. It is definitely my favorite island. I know that we have already been there twice in the films, but a part of me hopes that they will find a way to include it in the next one, even if it is only for half of the movie.
Poachers: We're about to hunt ourselves some dinos boys!
Spinosaurus: Oh cool. More appetizers.
compies survived for sure, I kind of doubt things like Tyrannosaurs and the Spinosaurus would still be around though, they would be the big money specimens. Here's hoping JW3 gives us some concrete closure.
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Dominion directly disproved the notion Sorna was dead since they showed us Buck and Doe in the valley that canonically holds dinosaurs either cloned by Biosyn, taken in from the escapees/sold off ones such as Rexy, and some Sorna dinosaurs.But they only started doing this after Lockwood Manor incident began so after 2018, therefore Sorna is not dead.I believe that the problem was when Masrani went to Sorna he realised that there were too many dinosaurs to capture, the island was too big and dangerous to be reliably used, and that the predators were far too dangerous such as the velociraptors as according to canon, only one raptor was brought to Nublar from Sorna for Jurassic world construction before 2005, and then after realising that the predatory dinosaurs such as the raptors were too wild and unpredictable, decided to clone new raptors and have them be raised by a person to be less dangerous to their handlers.So Sorna was left alone and covered up, Claire and the other workers were kept in the dark and fed the lies that it was empty, and only some were taken from Sorna partially to bolster the claim of the island having undergone a massive crash and that these were the last few ones.This is why the world seems to believe Sorna is dead and never make any suggestions to take dinosaurs to Sorna or that Sorna may still have some.
i think personally that most of the large meat eaters past on and only a few medium to small ones survive along with alot of the plant eaters like i belive the dilophosauras, metriacanthesauras, spino, compy, ceratosauras, suchominus, proceratosauras
I feel like only compys and the most elusive, fastest and smartest animals could survive like raptors and gally's. Also glad to hear that the...um..... medicine you got from that market in DangerVille hasn't given you any side effects, or do you have a 3 headed scaly draconic problem growing somewhere?
hey KLAYTON.
have you considered looking at "the evolution of claire"?
The idea of the poachers could make for a great idea for JW 3 or for a spin off series. I would love to see that some of the Site B raptors or even the Spino being held by some nefarious villain or even some species being taken of the island, only for them to get loose in Costa Rica, hiding within the jungles for years. Perhaps a small tribe of raptors or some Dilo's
I still personally think the (jp3) pteranodons on sorna are still alive there in the dome, just barely making a living. But the poachers busted through for some @$$ and they got loose
If i pick a dinosaur i may pick the ankylosaurus because the poachers can't damage it
And the ankylosaurus will easily kill a human in one hit of its tail and the only way that the poachers may kill it if the go far away from it or shoot it from its legs so the ankylo can't move
Congratulations on the video! In fact, in Claire's book, Masrani is concerned about poaching in both Sorna and Nublar. I believe this is a much more tangible factor for the decline of Sorna than the breeding of illegal species.
Now a video suggestion would be which of the 20 species presented to Sorna would have a real chance of surviving? This taking into account biogeographic factors and what was provided by information from Movie Canon.
I've never seen/read a reason why the dinosaurs on Sorna died, besides in the novels. In the movies I dont see why Site B or C couldnt still have dinosaurs.
The big ones might easilly be made extinct again on Sorna but the littler and more intelligent ones might survive. I have also felt that maybe not all of the dinos left on Nublar necessarily died. I'm not suggesting they are still on the isle. It is unlikely but not impossible that some dinos could have swam to another island. Rats can swim for 3 days. Why couldn't a huge super strong, buoyant dinosaur do so as well? It would definitely swim faster than a rat. And life does find a way......
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Damn that would be a cool movie, a group of poachers (maybe a professional one like Roland tembo) just flying onto sorna and hunting for raptors and spino’s. But getting absolutely destroyed
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Really cool, and informative video. :)
Personally, I'd bet on the Compies, and possibly the highly organized raptor tribe of JP3 to have somehow survived.
I’m surprised there hasn’t been a side story about a group of hunters on Isla Sorna. Would have been an interesting film. Or game, give or take.
I kinda like to think the bull T. Rex from The Lost World is currently in the hands of a private collector.
Species like a compy would have survived i believe, because they are small, if there aren’t too many, they could live of rats and other small mammals. They would be hard to hunt down because of their small size.
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Dinosaur poaching on Isla Sorna was also briefly discussed in The Evolution of Claire!
I would like to see the spinosaurus one more time in the final film. And also the dilophosaurus for sure.
I think this is another stellar instance of what Malcolm was referencing when he said that dinosaurs need to stay extinct. Take away the hunting and there's still the Spino and the raptors that are over hunting and the DX virus (not the one's in JP 3 because they had ranks as opposed to the one's in the lost world).
I really like the fact that the franchise touches on the issue that is pouching. Killing animals for fun is one of the most ridiculous and pathetic things humans do, and I'd really love to see the Jurassic movies (or any other media) talking about that subject in a pedagogical, sympathetic way.
I think the only evidence that the Sorna dinosaurs were brought to Nublar came with Parasaurolophus and Compsognathus. Those two dinosaurs in JW films have the same coloration as the ones we saw in TLW. I would say Triceratops may be too, but their facial features just look slightly different
I still think The Lost World should have wrapped up the franchise though. As Hammond and Ian said it, the dinosaurs should at least have been left alone. And if they extinct again, it's probably for the best. Nature chose them to extinct million years ago
Im currently reading the books for the first time and whenever you bring them up, I have to close the video😅its a little stupid on my part as I cant stay away from Klayton's videos for very long
As I recall one of the early trailers for Fallen Kingdom suggested that the volcanic event would take out the whole island chain, including Sorna. I'm all for seeing more on sorna just to find out what happened to the Spinosaur but I had thought the whole chain went up.
I'm pretty sure the compys survived. They're basically like the rats of Isla Sorna. In fact, I'm pretty sure they may have wiped out any rats on Isla Sorna. They're tiny scavengers who can subsist on insects, no way they were all wiped out, barring some sort of plague. And given that they're scavengers, it would have to be a pretty serious disease to harm them.
Maybe dinosaurs swam to the lesser islands and hide out there before going back to the bigger ones as part of some migration
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I'm betting the big "trophy" species were hunted down first, but if modern bears and birds can move between close knit islands, it wouldn't surprise me if a strong Spinosaurus might have made a trip to find new hunting grounds and avoid competition on some of the other islands.
I know a TRex fell prey to Batman. Saw one in his Batcave in season 2 of Justice League lol
Thats a scary hunter. N I dont mean the Tyrant Lizard King either xd
Kinda undermines the whole "Dinos make good weapons" theme of the new films. It also makes little sense considering nearly a hundred heavily armed men in TLW failed abysmally in hunts after their heavy vehicles were destroyed.
To quote Mauler, "They would be shit in a war"
At around 1:04-1:07 part of the video when Klayton said that the dinosaurs had a wonderfully bizzare fairytale ending where Jurassic and Cretaceous era dinosaurs live in the same ecosystem made me realize something. Has and will the Jurassic Park franchise deliberately ignore the Triassic era when it comes to the dinosaurs from that time period? Just a random thought.
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It would be cool if jw3 was on isla muerta, isla tacano, or any other island in Las Cinco Muertes. It would still be cool on the mainland, but I really want to see one of the other islands.
It is obvious that there are still Compys on the island, and I personally think that at least one tribe of raptors survived, as well as few Tyrannosaurs maybe. The Spino is just too aggressive and battle ready to have survived for very long. The hadrosaurs and Ceratopsians were likely impacted heavily by poachers and the outstanding number of predators though.
What was the name of the song that use to be in his opening? The guitar solo
Still waiting on a moment from the Michael Crichton novels.
I would like to believe that small species like the Compys survived, but I'm not counting out both distinct raptor tribes, stegosaurs or the various hadrosaur species either, but that's just me.
The hunters won’t last a minute on sorna before getting jumped by every carnivore in a 4 kilometer radius
Those little compies man. They definitely survived. Little dino-rats.
I would imagine that some species might have survived on Isla Sorna. From different parts of the canon, we know that the smaller carnivores can be tenacious survivors. Raptors, Compies, maybe Dilos. They would be able to survive on smaller animals better than large carnivores could, including modern animals. But how many poachers tried to take carnivores alive like the old Topps comics? How many drug lords wanted a few rare, scaly pets, and how many of those escaped into the wild?
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I think Site B might become the new safe haven in the end. With proper security. Site B has to have a large impact the finale. But something much darker might be lurking in it that might kill them all off slowly in the end. No way could it have just become a waste land.
It’s nice to see Camp Cretaceous acknowledge this part of the Canon.
They did?
@@thebroschannelmitch and tiff went to nublar to hunt dinos T H E Y. N E V E R. C A M E. B A C K
@@G55544 Mitch and Tiff's time as poachers happened after Jurassic World, they don't count
@@thebroschannel the Dino poachers happened after jw fell by the indomitable king
Spino: Idk why everyone thinks Isla Sorna is a Dino graveyard. I'm just over here on Site B, chilling and playing chess with the Raptor Crew. 🍺
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Gotta know that track you got playing at the start of the video
That's just...wow
I would not doubt it
in the old noncanon Jurassic Park Comics a Poacher flew into Nublar to see if the rumors were true
he captured three raptors which escape from containment on his plane
my suspicion would be the smaller dinosaurs survived...the compies and Microceratus in particular come to mind...probably some of the Pterasaurs as well
You missed the poaching notes in Evolution of Claire that mention the people trying to poach them would eventually succeed if they hadn't already, it was one of the reasons why Masrani was allowed to open Jurassic World.
I've never been of the opinion that all the dinosaurs on Isla Sorna are dead. Unless they wanna bring out the DX Virus again something would survive. As you pointed out the compys would easily still be around. I'd guess some of the smaller herbivores and at least a handful of raptors would still be around. It's also very possible that some dinosaurs made their way to other islands in the Muertes Archipelago.
I personally think that the Spinosaurus survived the chaos effect virus and everything that went down there. Just a hunch. Spinosaurs are piscivores after all, so maybe it could have survived solely off of fish. It’s not canon so it can’t be taken entirely seriously, but when you go to visit Sorna in JW Evolution, the Spinosaurus is alive along with a small group of stegosaurs. I think it’d be awesome if somehow the key to fixing the “dino crisis” (pun intended) going on in the mainland is located on Sorna in JW3. Who knows, though.
I think the sauropods would've died out due to their size but all the others would've survived to varying degrees with compys being most numerous. My reasoning being that the hadrosaurs would've stuck to the waterways and the stegosaurus and triceratops only being a couple times bigger than an elephant
I would think Compies would have survived if Isla Sorna has been overrun with poachers. A lot of us are still curious about Isla Sorna's fate whether it's still thriving with life or completely abandoned.
the sorna raptors were definitely a threat to the island but now they may be its best defence. species i would think possible to have survived were like you said more on the smaller side and maybe some of the more heavily armored herbivores it would take some serious firepower to get through an anky's armor and maybe some of the more stealthy mid sized carnivores, nocturnal species would also have better chances anyone stupid enough to go night hunting on sorna very likely was never seen again.
Tbh im not surprised if tourists can get past the quarantine of those islands its not a stretch for poachers either i would definitely say apatosaurs and other big animals were likely to fall prey to humans compys and even the rexes would be tougher