@destiny For someone that seems to be pro-black she is using fresh and fits positions to push anti-blackness. Calling the man burnt as if to imply having much darker skin is negative or undesirable. Her bias or deep seated disdain for black men is showing. I agree there are lot of issues in the black community when it comes to dating but most of these issues aren't exactly unique. And I find it interesting that black women like her always lean on traditional education when they want to position themselves above black men... but they leave out black men are largely following education trends for men generally speaking. When you mix systemic factors that have plagued the community, it becomes more pronounced. That said, there's still more black men and women in school than ever before. The median income of black men is higher than that of black women. Whether due to sexism or whatever that's a fact but they leave that out. Most black owned businesses in the US are owned and operated by black men. But they leave that out bc "education". Most black millionaires in the US are black men. But they leave that out. 81% of black men are single without children and so are most black women. So if we want to talk about single mother hood being endemic, the cause is 19% of black men and the black women that choose to engage with them. That said, when everyone says singlemotherhood is endemic in the black community. They are referencing a CDC report that counted any unmarried woman as a single mother regardless of the fathers involvement. If you cohabitated, split custody, or anything with the father you were still counted as single mother. The same report said black fathers tend to be more involved than other races. But they leave that out. So again, I get that there are problems but we need to stop measuring the entire community by its worst parts.
I find lav and tree of logic to be very entertaining. Kayla, brittany , stardust and pixy are all seem very intelligent to me and I'm always happy to hear their view. I do wonder if you would be so quick to assign gender, in regards to the male individuals he converses with. how do you feel about Mr.Girl, Vegan gains, John zherka?
@@shovelface6874 no it’s not cool. Especially coming from a lightskinned woman. How can she talk like she cares for the betterment of black men while calling a dark skinned man burnt cause she doesn’t like his podcast
Lmfao so minorities trying not to assimilate away from their ethnic heritage is the same as dominant White ethnic groups assimilating and ABSORBING the minority groups?
Faaaaaaacts. Even the report she referenced was insanely controversial for that reason. Scholars, civil rights leaders, and more completely rejected the report and described how Moynihan and Glazer (who later changed his mind and supported affirmative action) cherry picked information that only supported their argument.
It's so funny how she harps on about the victim mentality of black men but she herself is completely comfortable with placing all of the blame and accountability of black womens issues in the hands of black men and black men alone.
The issues within a community is rooted within the men because it’s men who lead communities. Well except black men, because they aren’t leading in anything except violence so..
1:47:21 if Black men are SO BAD TO EVERYBODY…. And she DOESNT Date black men herself (she said she didn’t deal with them about 10 minutes before this)…. Then WHY is she so concerned about who black men date? There is no love in her heart for black men whatsoever so I don’t understand this whole “race preserving, black men are doing us bad by dating outside the race but they’re bad to everybody they date” shit
She literally is afraid of confrontation. She crumbles as soon as she gets called out and uses the "see i was right" as a shield to avoid the conversation. Literal coward. She says black men only know how to cower...yet she cowers every time the fire rises. Literal hypocrite. She's just racist, especially with that race preservation bullshit. Let a white person say that and people would be up in arms. Very toxic and quick to shut orhers down but wants to be heard. Also, if you have to constantly establish you're a good person and you "love" everyone...chances are you're a piece of trash, and her attitude amd actions show that tenfold
@@Cybertech134 Men aren't warned what the worst of women look like but women get a heads up on the worst of men. And radical feminists like this racist black woman actively gaslight and shame young men and young women and their elders from warning young ppl about the worst of women and their strats.
Sometimes it’s not what people say it’s how they say it cos sharpe has a worse tone than she did so he comes off more ignorant even if he’s more likely to be right
How is it that every negative comment a man makes towards women is misogynistic, but women can get on stream and be both sexist and racist with no push back? Notice how she constantly attacked black men but fanatiq never commented on black women smh
(Aba woke girl voice) Well that's because black women are oppressed and on the lower totem pole compared to black men, so when they are engaging in misandry it's actually just them punching up. Maybe next time you have an opinion just remember you're a man and that makes you sexist and privileged okay yaass
what has she said that was racist? or even sexist? ... talking about people that have a certain race or sex doesn't make it sexist, you just don't agree with what she is saying.
@@JaguarGames1337 she literally just said “black men ain’t shit” but with more words Now idk about you but yes most of her experience is with black men but idk I cut females of my race a lot of slack despite how balls out fucking insane they are but she seems to attribute every negative thing to them which I feel can be taken as racially charged
I actually love that Aba is part of the Destiny-sphere now. Aba and Preach have been my favorite commentary channel for a while, and destiny has been my streamer of choice for a while. It's wild to see them collab so often
Same here. Been A&P for a long time, and always like their takes. Also like Destiny because of his engagement with a variety of ppl different political and social backgrounds. It's very fascinating to see these two content creators combine. I hope their collaboration continues to be fruitful and doesn't divulge like Destiny's previous "friends and acquaintances".
The guy in the beginning is exactly right. I’m a gay woman, more on the dominant side. Men are not attracted to me (which is good) for this reason. They look at me like another dude but me being a chick I know they’re physically stronger, and in biology terms they can do more than I can physically. That being said I like submissive women myself, being the hard worker I am I want to provide and protect my girl. I don’t feel I need protection but it’s not unwarranted again because I’m a girl I like the feeling of security. I have 7 brothers and some of them had girls try and pull a power move on them that completely turned them off of said girl, and that is because men are naturally our protectors. They want to provide and have their woman care for them their house and kids. No man or gay woman wants a chick that’s always like… her. It’s just too fucking much honestly.
I've seen it first hand sometimes you don't want to go home to a fight. Like if we're gonna argue I'll leave. Which is what men do instead of staying there and a child sees it. Too many "fake" hard women puff up because they know the legal system has their back when they act up. They'll do something reckless and have the police there swiftly so. We as people know we have to avoid them because they're dangerous. We're trying to "protect them" and realize we need to protect ourselves. This is why the loner culture became more of a thing. If there's nothing to protect why am I here? That's how a lot of dudes see relationships. Everybody want to confide in somebody yet if it isn't there. It's better to just get off and leave.
I'm not normally a huge fan of Fanatiq due to his tendency to speak over other's responses. However, dude absolutely can in clutch here not only for dismantling her argument, but also in actually letting the audience see how insane her beliefs actually were. I'm loving this arc.
its extremely concerning cause she fucking has a serious hate and bias for us black men and it shows. there is a saying " if your not racist youll never have to keep saying" btu ever second " i dont hate black men " proceeds to shit on them all stream
May be less applicable (not from America) but when I've had to tangle with social workers so many can only see what their worldview allows them to see. And woe betide if you don't fit into the box they've set aside for you.
and black males have this same attitude about black women, but you aren't worried/care about black women being mistreated by black males. just move on, paige.
@@TheBlackLukaLevi it was bad enough having to listen to Annalicia contorting everything anyone said to justify her cope spiral without you joining in.
@@noobslayer1196 are you not? if you are black then I hope you will not lie and say that black males don't make fun of black women for having dark skin, they do. y'all only cry when black women throw that same heat back at black males.
I never comment, but this conversation was so unbearable to listen to... Especially when it got to the "mixed race" nonsense she raised. She generalized an entire group of people, advocated for only dating within your own racial groups, and practically segregating mixed race people into their own groups. Honestly, every bit of this was absurdly racist and hostile towards black men. She was able to vigorously spout off this ignorance but as soon as any person capable of pushback came on, she would get instantly defensive and terrified of what would be said against her. Destiny also had to pander towards her and practically cater to her in every capacity to even have her stay on the line. She is an ignorant racist perpetuating her own closed-minded viewpoints. As a black/white biracial guy, I have seen so many strong and upstanding black men in my life that its just so silly to generalize an entire race to a broadly white audience based off of clear negative interactions within her own life that doesn't represent anyone else's. Advocating for racial separation and "not mixing the races" is the exact opposite I believe in. I married and have a child with a Latina (Puerto Rican) and I would have it no other way. Blending cultures is exactly how we get away from this vile nonsense racism this lady is spouting. Hope she gets zero extra followers from her begging to have her Instagram shouted out. What a terrible representation of a culture. Much love to everyone else. Peace and love, my friends ✌🏽.
She is bigoted racist. Look, race is not even real. It is a social construct, hell the US census allows you to identify with whatever you want because it is based on the culture you were exposed to. It has been scientifically proven that race does not exist. I don't understand why the United States and Europe still like to group people up, like you cant tell who is what. Different groups of people have different cultural practices and these do not depend on skin color or physical features. If anything, we should group people based on their tribe regardless of physical features.
I hope she blows up and becomes famous. The fact that u bring up her personal life is the whole thing. She is being general and have actual statistics evidence to back her not just "hi this is my opinion". So this is the perfect place and time for the change to happen. And I love Destiny is challenging everyone.
Her saying things like black men are the group she cares the least about how they feel, defended someone saying to abort black male babies, and how she basically had so much smoke for and had no patience for any black man that came on, including Aba, this seems to be coming from a place of resentment than concern and an attempted make things better.
Some of what she said made sense and was poignant, but just her level of UNHINGEDNESS makes it sound like she won't be satisfied until black men single handedly start a pro-black nationwide coup, WIN, and then make it illegal to have kids out of wedlock, but have the law only apply specifically for black men and usher in a new utopia of humanity where black women receive reparations for past mistreatment, but only from black men.
Basically what I'm hearing from her arguments is that us black men have to be responsible for making huge changes in our communities that lead to more fathers in homes, more black marriage, etc. My problem with her overall sentiment(and the sentiment of many black women I've talked to in real life) is that black men are the main group that need to make these major changes while black women don't have to do as much when it comes to not having children out of wedlock and successful relationships, etc. As black men we're all grouped together as not being ish, but if we generalize black women or date interracially then we're vilified.
@@Hubin12 Yeah I agree. It's easy to say that black men need to go to college and get higher paying jobs or that we need to get married and build stable households. The problem is when there are many black men growing up in poverty that rarely get the education to go to college in the first place, or there not not being fathers in the household so we don't know what a stable household entails.
This woman, is given an issue with every person she interacts with, and even starts attacking Steven for trying to give other people the opportunity to give a perspective he can't have. Seriously at some point, when literally every single human being this bitter woman interacts with has a negative experience, and no one else seems to have that issue, she needs to self reflect and realize she is the the only common denominator, she is the problem.
@@invaderHUNK so crazy. at first I was feeling kind of bad for her after the first few guys. but when fanatic jumped on it was clear she was just being defensive and petty
@@troyareyes I almost wish the title didn't spoil the line up lol. I don't know what the FLYING fuck Destiny thought Sharp was gonna be the best decision for that lmao. Seen 2-3 segments with him on there taking to some goofy women and the dude is no-nonsense, no bullshit, no cap. No WAYYYYY a know-it-all was gonna last a full convo with a no-nonsense type of person
Actually true. I had a black girl who's name was pronounced Destiny so I either think of the video game or the black girl when I hear people call the Streamer girl Destiny by Destiny instead of their real name, Stephanie
I was kinda with her when she super called it on how the first two guys would act and respond, but then when Fanatiq didn't act like that and was addressing her points she started getting super aggressive and her rhetoric definitely seemed like she does actually dislike black men. She cut Fanatiq off sooooo many times. Sometimes she'd talk for a couple minutes, then he'd barely get out one sentence before she'd hostilely jump in and keep him from making a point at all. It got quite frustrating to listen to, especially since she was so upset if he interjected even a little. She seemed to scoff at any defense of them or sharing of the blame, even when talking about consensually having children out of wedlock. To be fair to her, we all know it's easy to stubborn in a debate, and it's also difficult to be receptive when you perceive the situation to be hostile, and she did have two bad experiences just prior. So who knows. It could be a combination of things that caused it, but it came off as a bad look to me.
Those other two men knew her demeaner these women are all over. She made the convo hostile, neither sharp or 4thot were hostile. They saw how aggressive she was talking about people that YOU identify with. She gave no respect to not one black man she constantly regraded.
Yea seems emotionally charged which is valid and makes sense as a black woman but it makes some ever talking points come across as hating .. individuals need to take responsibility but groups of people have carried certain burdens that should be acknowledged too . Both men ,woman ,white and black . Socialgical speaking men didn't just start leaving the home for nothing but it's no excuse, just saying follow the logic more
So a single mom complaining about men and blaming them about how they act and don't hold themselves accountable yet most of the men she complained about were raised by single moms yet the mothers apparently had nothing to do with how their sons turned out ?
@@fifiadan I never said she’s wrong. I actually agree with many of her points, the problem is the outcome she wants (black men changing) she will not get through to us at all the way she speaks. In fact she’s only making the problem worse, I imagine most black men also hearing this are as turned off as me by her rhetoric. Men actually respond really well to female encouragement, not to male bashing
@@fifiadan The quest is what is she right about, there are a number of things said that she is right about. That stats are the stats. The moment she starts analyzing the stats she falls off.
Ana is completely misrepresenting the historical context of the African-American community. I don’t know if it’s because she is from Canada and just doesn’t know about this or what. But, her version of Reconstruction Era and the Great Migration is completely false. Black men were always the head of household and breadwinner within the black community up until the Vietnam War. Historically, black Americans have always been conservatives and family oriented. Once we even had the highest marriage rate in the nation pre-1950s. The problem here, is that the black man has always been the largest demographic makeup of the middle-labor class. Jobs like steel-workers, millers, chimney-sweeps, bricklayers, stonemasons and smith work for example. Black women typically worked as “the Help” as most of us know. Throughout Jim-Crow Segregation KKK lynchings, WW1 and WW2 many black men were killed off or institutionalized. This left many black women to rely on the black church and/or the government for financial assistance. So much more happened between this time period and 1968 and I encourage you to look it up for yourself. Instead of blindly believing this mischaracterization of black men in general.
Fanatiq....as an individual who has watched you here and there for around 2 years. You were so good in how you handled yourself and talked. I respect you so fucking much. You weren't condescending in the slightest and were very respectful and concise here. I was blown away by how solidly you presented yourself in he conversation.
@@RolaiEckolo Just seemed liked he needed to work on his patience and being pragmatic in dealing with people that are impatient to him, it made him look childish tbh but if hes improved I can definantly listen to him because tbh I dont really disagree with him
I was kinda thinking this woman was fairly reasonable for most of the conversation between her and Destiny, but once Fanatiq came on and was making an actual effort to be civil and on-point, it immediately became painfully clear what a HUUUUUGE chip she has on her shoulder... Like jesus christ...
I don't agree with Fanatic's politics overall but I have so much respect for his ability to discuss level headedly with unhinged and bad faith debaters. I likely mostly agree with her politics, but it's fairly obvious she's bigoted against black men, and ONLY knows how to talk to a certain type of "black man." She was completely sabotaged by having Fanatic come in and speak calmly with her - she wanted to type cast and dismiss him so badly.
Oh they sure due hypergamy will always kick in. After they realize there husband is good to them there gonna run to chads and Tyrone’s and fall in love with them but not realizing there not in love with them back. 😂😂😂😂😂😅
@@bellegarde7822 I'm used to hearing that from black women but tried to hear her out through that bullshit. Then the "divorce good men" showed the unreasonable and unempathetic asshole she is.
For someone that seems to be pro-black she is using fresh and fits positions to push anti-blackness. Calling the man burnt as if to imply having much darker skin is negative or undesirable. Her bias or deep seated disdain for black men is showing. I agree there are lot of issues in the black community when it comes to dating but most of these issues aren't exactly unique. And I find it interesting that black women like her always lean on traditional education when they want to position themselves above black men... but they leave out black men are largely following education trends for men generally speaking. When you mix systemic factors that have plagued the community, it becomes more pronounced. That said, there's still more black men and women in school than ever before. The median income of black men is higher than that of black women. Whether due to sexism or whatever that's a fact but they leave that out. Most black owned businesses in the US are owned and operated by black men. But they leave that out bc "education". Most black millionaires in the US are black men. But they leave that out. 81% of black men are single without children and so are most black women. So if we want to talk about single mother hood being endemic, the cause is 19% of black men and the black women that choose to engage with them. That said, when everyone says singlemotherhood is endemic in the black community. They are referencing a CDC report that counted any unmarried woman as a single mother regardless of the fathers involvement. If you cohabitated, split custody, or anything with the father you were still counted as single mother. The same report said black fathers tend to be more involved than other races. But they leave that out. So again, I get that there are problems but we need to stop measuring the entire community by its worst parts.
@@donjowansafadi8739 him calling black women ugly as he is a black man, can be nothing but karma. his heart was ugly morally and physically from all that red bull he was chugging down his dirty mouth.🤣🤣🤣
@@TheBlackLukaLevi high blood pressure is not funny. It could stem from childhood malnutrition or severe stress. He's not fat so it's not related to his weight or diet. I have a father who has chronic high blood pressure. I worry very much and I pray every day he manages his high blood pressure and can eat good diet and have low stress. (He manages to this every day to his best ability) Earlier this year I had a scare where his high blood pressure randomly become real high and was throwing up and getting nauseous. It's not funny.
There are ways to say “Black men should not get a free pass to not uphold good ethics” without being this vitriolic and bitter. You generally win debates by holding strong on your arguments, but being willing to concede some points to the opposing side. Her entire argument was literally “all the problems are exclusively the fault of black men.” It’s IMPOSSIBLE for that to be true. There is NO PROBLEM ANYWHERE EVER that is exclusively within the purview of one specific group of persons to create or resolve. If nothing else, her convo with Fanatiq made it clear that she’s entrenched in an extreme negative viewpoint, despite it being obvious from the beginnings of her convo with Destiny. Once he asked her about solutions & she said that she couldn’t say because nobody would agree with her, I knew she was bad faith. The only person who would say that is someone who has never gotten so far as to think of possible solutions.
Listening to her talk to Fanatiq was literally painful. The number of times she got pissed at him for interjecting while literally constantly doing it to him was so frustrating to listen to. The moment someone says three words she assumes she knows the entire argument and viewpoint then just starts rambling. Then by the time they get back to the Convo the train of thought is lost.
"OH MY GAWD" I have to say, she was 100% correct when Shrap and Aba joined in. Made me feel like I understand her vitriol. But then she acted like a petulant child when talking to Fanatiq... Now I'm not sure if the chicken or the egg came first.
It comes out in the little side things she says like "Black women have been holding the family together alone for a millenia and they'll have to keep doing that as long as they have to deal with Black men" like she internalized all the awful shit they say about white people in some cringe poli sci courses and applied it to the black household
@@KaiserReb White men love you so much that they created a jail system and made it black mens second home. You're overpopulated there thanks to the white man.
Her: The CDC study about black men being involved with their children is wrong because it was self reported data. Also her: Women make these claims, and they're always true. 😂😂😂
the most annoying part to me is how implicitly and straightforwardly aggressive and standoffish she is, but calls other people out for being aggressive or rude to her
She's used to being infatalized.... and probably has ADHD which comes with poor social skills including but not limited to; rambling, fixation, inability to string together a cohesive thought.
Omg, finally FINALLY a video without Lav. A video about something that's ACTUALLY INTERESTING. Holy fuck. I'm glad that he finally got Fanatiq on to actually push back. Sharp calling her sweetie over and over again had me literally dead. AND asking if she had a man LITERALLY like 10 minutes after she told Steven that they always ask that was also priceless. I think Fanatiq did a really good job holding his head via the circumstances, she fell apart a little once she started getting actual push back and he did a pretty good job all things being said not flaming her even though she was talking twice as much and interrupting every sentence.
I want to like her but I'm basically going in faith that she actually likes black men because nothing she didn't represent herself as such at all. She finally got a respectable man to talk to her and she was so disrespectful and condescending and frankly bad faith. I literally want to support her because I'm anti redpill, she's not the spokesperson for that job.
@@lourj3883 I actually really loved this. She don't care about black mens feelings if they won't acknowledge how they themselves treat black women... She is literally saying look at the statistics if people don't take her word.
The stats don't really back up her point though. I took a look and black women don't earn more money than black men, mostly because black men work trades more often than black women. Black women earn more degrees than black men, but only 30% have a degree while 26% of black men have a degree, which isn't a steep discrepancy. I tried to see her point but it seemed like she just wanted a platform to rattle off her unhinged takes about black men. She thinks black women should date out and "doesn't care about black men", yet wants black men to do better and fix everything so there can be black families. It was 3 hours of cognitive dissonance.
@@Hodanbileh that's an interesting interpretation. To me it looks like she's projecting her hatred of black men unto statistic and putting black women on a pedestal. Likely because she has a gripe with the Alpha male types and just reacting as if that's all black men. She's clearly not able to be objective whatsoever
2:55:00 the issue with Destiny's point that i don't hear Fanatiq mentioning is the difference between the origins between those like Blacks and those like the Italians and Chinese. The Irish, Italians, Chinese and the like is that the Latter were From other civilizations with a decent understanding of society and working and such that they could manage to make a living while building their future for their children. Black people, like Natives, had hundreds of years and dozens of generations of oppression that kept them from building futures and uplifting themselves. That's why Native Americans are the poorest and least educated of all groups in America. Because we and they had generations of being treated like wild animals and livestock, and even being executed for trying to educate ourselves and our people. But we have had 60 years to change that, but how does a group change what has been integrated into their society down to a generational level? Kind of like how humans learned to fear low growls of predators like bears and tigers because of generations of being hunted by them, our kind has passed on generational oppression of not valuing education and being complacent with oppressive white democrat politicians ruining our communities. This is not acceptable and we need to change it, but it's hard to change such engrained societal destruction.
Happens all the time even in childhood I have never really seen a black man diss a woman of his same race racially but a million times a woman to a man for some strange reason.
@@no_player_commentary Ive definitely had experiences with black men where they made fun of me for having dark skin (even when they also had dark skin) its fucked up on both sides
Not gonna lie I was agreeing with her for the most part in the first portion of their conversation. I was luckily set up in a life where I could see both sides of the spectrum. I am 19 at this time, black and I’m in college for accounting, I find it disingenuous when she speaks about all black men as if they’re deserters and useless because I did have a father figure, and I can trace back that he had a father figure, and so on so forth. But on the other side my father did not have a father figure because he was killed at 27, my brother was killed at 28 even though he was as focused on improving himself and taking care of his kids. The problem is not just black men or black women but the fact that black men are stigmatized to be a societal villain, but if they improve themselves, or if they do sustain a family unit but are in the hood they’ll end up dead before they can live out their lives. This stuff is easy to track back, and even with Kevin Samuels the reason people didn’t really talk about his conversations with men is because they typically internalized the message and went on with their life. In contrast black women would be the ones to take offense to his harsh wording.
Same stigmatisation of betterment persists in London. Whether or not it's to the same degree I'm unsure... but it's as if there are demons in our ranks. We're not loud about this problem but we should be - it's a lot to fight against when you're growing up. A lot to shut out. I'd argue there are people going places today who could've gone a lot further without that battle.
@Jordan Sherrington I think you misunderstood me. I meant stigma within the black community around academic pursuits. You can be effortlessly smart but you're a 'bounty' if you're keen🙄 At least when I was growing up, I'm not sure how it is today. Sentiments in my generation have changed - as we got older, we (they) realised being articulate and well read is a net positive - but I wonder how black kids behave today and if they're repeating the same cycle. I've not lived in the UK for years...
I mean.... She´s calling all us black men, not some or most, but All us black men degenerative and a bunch of other insults, but wants to get in her feelings because a black man rebounded her energy back at her. Okay then.
"Hey you degenerate, lazy, family abandoning, victim mentality having, no good black men, I want to have a debate, but I don't want to make this personal". You can't make this ish up. -Kevin Samuels
then when fanatiq(i’m unsure how to spell his name) came on she even called him a “black man” in other words she was just using “black men” to call all black men the n-word hard R and it’s actually insane
@@dread3165 indeed. As you watch, and watch her against ABA who just destroys her, you start to learn that she is just playing a fools argument in that she already has personal negative bias against us because of the few she interacted with, and then looked for confirmation thought these studies she doesn't understand are extremely skewed. These studies most of the time are selective in the region and sample size as in they usually are conducted on a small population of a few thousand in a specific city of a certain state. These studies can't reflect accurately tens of millions of people across such a vast and massively diverse nation like the US. These studies also limit the results by removing or neglecting many variables because those don't simplify the results the researchers are wanting. But, she just blindly reads without fully understanding the whole of the studies that she's citing, and says these are hard proof of her illicit bigotry towards black men is justified.
The wild thing to me is that black men have been harshly criticizing black women all over the internet for years But as soon as we return the energy, we’re misandrists
Not sure which part your reffering to but I can kind of see that. I think she's just unhinged in the sense that she has some resentment and she can't be honest with herself about it. She moves the goal post on accident every time they try to get her to recognize that maybe there are other factors at play or maybe there is some legitimacy to what black men say. Destiny gave her a lot of free points for the sake of discussion and she was very stingy about doing the same for him
@@superidot1 no, destiny was way too soft on her. Fanatiqs brought up stats for black people, her response was always "because black men". His gig qrgument at the beginning was pertinent, bc she would be happy if the black man who knocked her up who was making gig money didnt go to prison or die, she wouldnt have a problem at all. I agree with what you said, but you cant treat aggressiveness with passiveness. She should have been checked 1,000 times before she had a platform that reaches as many people as Destinys does.
@@gregs3823 Can't find your comment now but I'll respond. I agree forsure he was too soft on her. But I do think we should keep in mind that her actions might not actually be from conscious bad faith. She definitely dosnt deserve this specific platform however. Everything people said about how lav should go do other stuff is more true here
@@gregs3823 that's a typical take of today's generation. No accountability for their own actions. "This man is bad therefore not my fault if I'm unhinged and unable to function like a normal person. When I berate you, it's the man's fault."
This Ana is the proof that you can allways find someone worse. We thought MrGirl was bad and insane, then come Lav to be even worse, and now this Ana that can reach a new low. Instead of ppl in the scene learn and get better, they look better bringing someone even worse lmao.
I'd only call her worse if we get another 6 hours of looping, like with your other two examples. 9 hours seems a fair threshold there, its not all about "quality" with annoyance, the quantity can even be worse.
@@matt_9112 A self-hating racist who threw racial slurs at Fanatiq and Tree? Nahhh ill take Mr Girl and his gaslighting any day over the horror that is Anna.
I wish someone had asked her "if black men are the gatekeepers of marriage, why don't black women wait until marriage before having sex/children with them?" She refuses to ask single mothers to take any kind of accountability for having sex without the guarantee of marriage, lol
In her perspective black men should suck up and marriage single mothers. Even if said black men don’t want to marry a women who has no kids. She’s so disgusting as a person in this topic. She wants to bash black men in general. Making general statements is bad since that is implying all black men. Even grouping the good ones. Moral of the story fuck her
Yeah. That’s definitely what it would take to guarantee not being an unwed mom. Abstinence is basically the only reason why the single motherhood rates were so low before the 70’s (and why they’re so low in other cultures and religious communities). We’d have to be an abstinence-only culture to retrieve those statistics again. But nobody wants to challenge the dominant culture. They always want to criticize the people who are carrying the evidence of it.
The "dating down" section was wild. Say what you will about F&F and Sneako but they are totally willing to date down and have some girl who used to work at Burger King as a house wife. But this woman spent the first hour complaining that she can't find a man in the black community who makes more money than her, and is totally unwilling to "settle" for a guy who'll stay home, cook dinner, and play Legos with the kids.
She already admitted she doesn't watch F&F long form content. Just like all the women who dragged Kevin Samuels because of his clips. She drags F&F, but they make that point time and time again on their show about what she's complaining about. Which is hypergamy, she make lots of money and wanting a man who makes more. Those black men have options and she's mad she's not one of them. It's mind-numbing now women can't grasp this simple concept about themselves.
Im not gonna bother watching the whole thing again, but i dont remember her ever saying that she needs someone who makes more than her, or that she makes a lot of money. Much less anything relating to a personal desire for hypergamy. She was more focused on getting black men to value marriage and community building. The career building she talked about sounded to me like she just wanted black men to have stable jobs in general. Not for them to be wealthy necessarily. U can let me know if i missed the part where she said otherwise. Or maybe ur familiar with her outside content where she does idk.
@@YT-wt7fe *"The career building she talked about sounded to me like she just wanted black men to have stable jobs in general."* Black men now are more employee than ever. So no, it isn't about _"stable"_ jobs more so the quality of the job they are doing. Her resentment comes from a point lack of quality of high earning black men. She made that point about the income rate with black men. She tells on herself when she points out that black men date out more than black women. Fanatiq makes the point why don't you date out than, she can but it's harder because black women are deem less attractive to other races which she knows that.
I'm only 40 minutes into this, but Destiny seems really uncomfortable. This woman seems like she wants him to defend Fresh and Fit's positions when he doesn't even agree with them. Why doesn't she try to have a conversation with Myron? Why is she here?
She would get absolutely flammed irl in the podcast and she wouldn't dare to talk to Myron the way she does to destiny. And the podcast goes live more black man sees her true color and avoids her, it's a never ending vicious cycle.
@@calebgao6931 she just seems to want to shit on black men to someone who isn't totally equipped to defend them. This isn't destiny's fight. That no jumper guy didn't help by coming on and being super condescending. He made me feel bad for her, even though she had been kind of shitty for much of the conversation.
@@Darm0k honestly I'd never thought the sharp crossover would ever happen in destiny's channel. When dude came in with "what's your problem S W E E T Y" I burst out of laughter. I guess sharp is a little bit too boomer to use discord call also the poor mic quality kind of proves my point. So dude uses he's irl pimping skill on discord call plus a woman like that it's a literal recipe for disaster.
Fanatiq was honestly the best person for the job because he showed the contrast to her purported views by her actions. Everything thats opposite to the degeneracy was what fanatiq embodied. He was calm, intelligent and engaged with stats, yet she still vehemently opposed him which shows her colors. If Myron were there, he would’ve been more aggressive and it wouldn’t have looked as bad for Anna.
Anna is crazy. and the fact that guy in the beginning made her look reasonable in that clip is even more crazy. Anna made a semi decent point and he’s obsessing over making her submissive. that’s so weird to me
@@vydenr486I'm sorry but the way she was disrespecting "black men" was way beyond a personal attack. In reality the things she was saying are similar arguments that would be regurgitated by far right terrorist like Dylan Roof, or the Buffalo Shooter. She deserves no respect.
I dont know about you guys but her initial rant about black men,Kevin Samuels, and standards was borderline hate. Her argumentation is the very ammo black men can use to justify disrespect to other black women even some caught in the crossfire. She refuses to ask why black men make less, why black men aren't as educated, why more are dating outside their race, why there is such a major gap in how both the men and women intermingle, etc. I dont think she came to you to seek knowledge she came to you for validation by throwing shade at a group of people dealing with complex issues that are beyond their control and acting like the vitriol she receives is unwarranted.
Beyond their control? How is that only the question when it comes to men. Black women face misogynist and racism Get degrading by black men everywhere online Don't abandon their children Gets an education and jobs But when Annalicia is saying black women should raise their standards it is a problem. Oh the irony of the redpill
@@Hodanbileh Your points are nonsensical. Black men still suffer what black women suffer on top of the government still incentivizing single motherhood in the black community. In fact black women more than any other group are idolized for raising multiple kids without fathers. And if divorce is initiated by women a majority of the time at a higher rate, how exactly can black men control that? If black men make less money and are less educated than black women one can argue that there are other factors that black men deal with that black women don't. Lastly you seem to have read "beyond their control" and ignored everything else entirely. My problem was she didn't ask the right questions. She read data and assumes it has to be set factors that fit her biases. Raising your standards doesn't fix anything as it forces more men out the mating pool creating further division amongst the sexes, which furthers my point.
@@TheBlackLukaLevi I don't think it's the coddling I think there's a strong amount of crab bucket mentality that keeps most in places where they can't leave that space because they know if they leave, they'll get know support.
I remember watching her on the Saint and Sinner debate. Shes just as insufferable now as she was back then. And it sucks because I love how she disagrees and that she disagrees in general, but then the way she carries herself just disgusts me throughout the convo. very poor etiquette indeed. Oh and insulting Kevin Samuels after he passed is just tasteless. Fanatiq did a good job keeping the conversation as respectful as he could.
Let this be a lesson to anyone who says a black person can't be racist lol. But this woman being so incredibly racist to her own race is unreal. My sympathies to any black destiny fans who had to suffer through this. I can only imagine how ticked off I'd be if I had walked in their shoes. At least take solace in the fact that she'll be single for life. She's actually crazy which is why she blows up people's phones with voicemails instead of text messages like a normal crazy person.. Also pleasantly surprised by your engagement fanatiq. I knew you were somewhat professional in debates before but you handled this very well, down to your tone & everything
Yeah, Fanatiq absolutely did well here. However, I don't think black people or black men in particular need any sympathy for this though, if anything they have dodged a bullet from this unhinged person.
Fanatiq’s claim that black men aren’t marrying due to fewer economic and employment opportunities doesn’t account for the many marriages that happened in previous generations in the same (and worse) conditions. I’d like to hear his explanation for this divergence.
@@garynichols9877 do men just want to remain single? I know a lot of never married older guys. interesting that they’re expressing regrets in their 60s.
@@garynichols9877 Yes, I sense that too. People not willing to yield and having unrealistic relationship expectations. My take is that if you don’t see what you want IRL in you personal circle, the likelihood you’ll get it is low (men & women). Too much identification with life in the social media, entertainment, and sports world. In the past average people married average people and usually had fulfilling lives.
So she talks about cause and effect for black women but never once mentioned it for men. Kinda disgusting how she spoke to Fnatic and when she spoke to Destiny her tone was so different.
She already tried to box Destiny in by asking how red pill he is? I think her mouth moves faster than her brain. She knows he said something red pilled that triggered her, but cannot fully recall it. She is moving fast.
It's so crazy that she fights against the 'red pill message', while falling into the same traps. If the men you're dating aren't making as much money as you, and that is a problem, either you view money and status as a desirable trait for a sexual partner, or you keep choosing to date poor partners and single motherhood is your fault. Both of these outcomes are red pill points, and she keeps falling into it thinking she's disproving it. I would love to talk to Destiny about this, I think I can bridge the gap between her and Aba. EDIT: Holy shit, I just listened to all 9 hours. I wish I could coach Annalisia (hope that's spelled right) on how to beat people in these spaces. I don't agree with all of her points, but if she could just navigate the conversations a little differently she can actually get her points across and win some people over.
Two side to everything men should take responsibility when spraying their seed all will nilly, same as to when a women opens her legs of course. Both sides need to take accountability.
@@44mamst that was pretty insane for a guy to say that a woman should work, take care of a house and kids AND sumbit. If a guy wants a submissive wife he better be able to provide and taking as much load outside of the house, off her shoulders as possible. That was a pretty crazy assertion, the only way it’s okay is if the man is working WAY harder. Either way female nature is more passive
She barely quoted anything worth giving the time of day to as well as openly displayed clear bias between destiny and the rest of the black men that were there. She's a completely different person who's actually willing to listen be two destiny speak simply because he is not a black man. She spoke with the exact tone that Candace Owens has spoken about black people but particularly aims at black man and removes all nuance when it comes to the successes and fails of black man but. Can only give praise and reference to black women without any general critique or accept it for that matter. She utilizes poor strawman tactics when composing her argument of why black men can't do better and as Fanstiq stated, she'll utilize the fact that marginalization is happening. She started off describing herself as someone who works in communities with marginalized people but goes out of her way to be empathetically absent to black men. She asks why aren't they getting married or marrying black women and linger rates and she believes black women are much more with loyal when both black men and black women have statistically shifted those numbers. She dodged, cut off and relatedly refused to answer questions but spouted angrily misquoted numbers and data
@@tarfielarchelone2674 that is a lot of gas lady position and alleviates all structural systematic damage and programming done to a marginalized people. People will make every situation someone complains about their own fault but ignore the path set by people that came before irrelevant for some reason.
@@tarfielarchelone2674 know your problems aren't your own fault because with that same logic that lady not being in a relationship or being a single mom it's her own fault an not the fault of black men. That would mean all that time during the man out of the house act, those women literally chose money over men and it didn't work out.
She lost to Fanatiq. He dropped the mic and left. Also Aba needs to be in every panel, he brings humor and level-headedness to the topic. I wish it didn't cut off at the end.
I agree with some of the arguments that she makes, but as a black man I hate the way that black women frame issues in black relationships as a problem that black men need to be responsible for fixing. We're constantly told that black men aren't ish as a generalization, but we can't address issues with black women without negative labeling coming back to us. There have been plenty of times in my life where I've heard black women downing black men for their issues, interracial dating, etc. I think Fanatiq did good in his debate with addressing issues with her arguments. Edit: So it's black men's fault that black women are in poverty even though black women are supposed to be more educated than black men. Us black men gotta pull ourselves up through any type of systemic issues and have to bear responsibility for the poverty of black women as well. Sounds fair.
And its that along with many other reasons why I gave up on these women a long time ago. Wheter its black women or not there is a common theme whether people like to hear it or not, accountablity & lack there of. Its always anyones fault but their own.
I mean what I see described here is the issue that black women, despite being educated; have no idea how to pick their partners. Why aren't they dating within their socioeconomicimal status? Isn't that what she said everyone does?
4Thot and Sharp were definitely not up to her standards in terms of debating tactics but when Fanatiq came in she couldn't handle him with very responsible debating and she interrupted like crazy. If you're going to be super demanding in what standards you want just to have a debate you should NOT complain when you get someone was patient as Fanatiq on board, I sorta wish Destiny called her out in that respect. Aba being a troll is so freaking funny every time though xD
@@rorynolan2322 no, but he hopped in early on, heard her argument and immediately hit them with "don't fight a black woman, they're always right" then dipped lmao
Sharp asked her why she was boiling and bitter beneath her fake politeness and she completely shut down... then she's SCREAMING at Fanatiq at the end proves she rejected debate opponents she couldn't scream at.
Amazing how she misunderstood “if your average, you should be okay with dating average men” as “date down”. Ive neeeeeeever seen this before. Or another favorite. “Yeah I dont watch X creator, but heres abunch of prescriptions about what they talk about from 30 sec clips on tiktok.”
@@wintermintmojo2418 My man! You summarized the majority of women who venture over into the manosphere. They got it all figure out in 30 second clips. Once they hear single mothers are low value their brains and ears shut off while emotions takes a hold..
Unfortunately she comes from a hive mind and isn't the only black woman or black person who feels this way, based off of what she was saying in this video, you can totally see how primarily black women, could mock Kevin Samuels death.
She has a deep rooted trauma and hatred towards her father and feels the compulsion to project those emotions onto society. Thats what I got from this convo
First she said: Black men should be marrying black women to preserve the black race. Then she said: Black women should be dating other races more than they are now. These two statements are contradictory.
No they aren't, she is just being both racist and sexist. She thinks black women can do what they want because they are owed it while black men must limit themselves because they are "lesser"
@@Blankace. I disagree. If she believes the "black race" must be preserved, then it is contradictory to her goal to have black women date out of their race while expecting black men to date black women. I don't disagree with your assessment of her attitude and racism, but the statements I referred to are clearly illogical.
It’s still racist if a light skin black person refers to a dark skin black person as “burnt” right? Like, regardless if you disagree with them or not… right? Also, she definitely didn’t look how I pictured her. Watching this live, I pictured her looking waaay different.
That not racist because if it is a black person who is light skin making a claim about someone’s shade it wouldn’t be racist because they aren’t referring to the entire black community, so that is colorism which is defined in the black as someone discriminating against the shade of another black person, rooted in racism but by definition isn’t racist because dark skin is a subsection of a race, not an actual race
@@HaitianKaizo are they not referring to every black person who is the same shade? If a white person said it I would call that racist, I don't see how because someone is part black it isn't racist.
I haven’t seen her yet but I’m assuming she’s light skinned black hair curly all around in like somewhat of a frizzy Afro black horn rim glasses pink soft lips pretty brown eyes and not overweight
@@Drdirtydee Light skinned and long, straightish hair. No glasses. She’s a lot more light skinned than I pictured tho. Oh and yeah, she seems fairly thin.
Yes, black women are raised in the same difficult environment and households as black men, BUT there's a huge difference. The most important role model in any child's life is the same sex parent. Black girls are taught by those single mothers to be black women. Black boys raised without fathers are not taught to be black men.
I know he can’t talk about the black experience because he isn’t black, but I do wish, that just once, he would turn his cam off and put on a black persons voice and just pretend to be a black friend of destiny’s arguing on his behalf, it’s a fool proof way to win the argument and make some memes, I can’t see it going wrong
This one really hit home for me. As a black man who used to live in new york I've always had love for my black queens. I moved to a very white middle class town and the handful of black girls i did communicate with reminded me of this girl. I have no idea what makes these women hate black men but its so sad to see. I hope this is the last time i see her on this channel because honestly i can see her perception of black men is never going to change.
Bro what’s so funny is that these be the same women who falls in love with these certain black men. How many times you see these women going after felons, drug dealer, drop outs and etc. Or even when there married or in a relationship they go cheat with those types of guys I mention on top.
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With how often Fanatiq lies about stats, studies, statistics... I believe Anna over him any day of the week tbfh.
Please don’t bring her back
Hey fruitcake give credit to Saint and Sinner’s content, don’t be stealing shit and not giving credit
@@dr.wolfgang3256 ... saint and who?
@destiny For someone that seems to be pro-black she is using fresh and fits positions to push anti-blackness. Calling the man burnt as if to imply having much darker skin is negative or undesirable. Her bias or deep seated disdain for black men is showing.
I agree there are lot of issues in the black community when it comes to dating but most of these issues aren't exactly unique.
And I find it interesting that black women like her always lean on traditional education when they want to position themselves above black men... but they leave out black men are largely following education trends for men generally speaking. When you mix systemic factors that have plagued the community, it becomes more pronounced. That said, there's still more black men and women in school than ever before.
The median income of black men is higher than that of black women. Whether due to sexism or whatever that's a fact but they leave that out.
Most black owned businesses in the US are owned and operated by black men. But they leave that out bc "education".
Most black millionaires in the US are black men. But they leave that out.
81% of black men are single without children and so are most black women. So if we want to talk about single mother hood being endemic, the cause is 19% of black men and the black women that choose to engage with them.
That said, when everyone says singlemotherhood is endemic in the black community. They are referencing a CDC report that counted any unmarried woman as a single mother regardless of the fathers involvement. If you cohabitated, split custody, or anything with the father you were still counted as single mother.
The same report said black fathers tend to be more involved than other races. But they leave that out.
So again, I get that there are problems but we need to stop measuring the entire community by its worst parts.
Destiny literally trying to assemble the Avengers team of the most unbearable women on his platform.
Surely this will discourage misogyny in his community.
I find lav and tree of logic to be very entertaining.
Kayla, brittany , stardust and pixy are all seem very intelligent to me and I'm always happy to hear their view.
I do wonder if you would be so quick to assign gender, in regards to the male individuals he converses with.
how do you feel about Mr.Girl, Vegan gains, John zherka?
Facts
@@louispearson8306 it aint that deep
@@morgangreen2601 Its misogyny its kinda is
Calling a black man “burnt” is fucking crazy.
Ah colorism gotta love the subsets of racism. Jesus...
Colorism at its best.
I’m black it’s chill we are a talk shit culture it’s really not a thing
@@shovelface6874 thats the white people culture, insulting and roasting the black man
@@shovelface6874 no it’s not cool. Especially coming from a lightskinned woman. How can she talk like she cares for the betterment of black men while calling a dark skinned man burnt cause she doesn’t like his podcast
Shes literally making white supremacist arguments while trying to disassociate black women from the equation. LOL
It’s a common cope from minority women.
Typical of black feminists and swirlers.
Lmfao so minorities trying not to assimilate away from their ethnic heritage is the same as dominant White ethnic groups assimilating and ABSORBING the minority groups?
Well if the points weren't true, an educated woman wouldn't bring them up. Obviously they are true!
Faaaaaaacts. Even the report she referenced was insanely controversial for that reason. Scholars, civil rights leaders, and more completely rejected the report and described how Moynihan and Glazer (who later changed his mind and supported affirmative action) cherry picked information that only supported their argument.
It's so funny how she harps on about the victim mentality of black men but she herself is completely comfortable with placing all of the blame and accountability of black womens issues in the hands of black men and black men alone.
Self aware wolves moment
The issues within a community is rooted within the men because it’s men who lead communities. Well except black men, because they aren’t leading in anything except violence so..
@@angelmartin7310you’re right, men should have never given women any freedom and political power
@@angelmartin7310 so not having power makes you a hostage? Lol that’s how leading works you fool. You just want to cherry pick
@@almostafa4725💀
I think it's funny that a black woman, who complained about racism and sexism against black women, is racist and sexist to black men 😃
You're the one killing each other.
@@aquarius-woman5364 who's having those gangbangers again? Who doesn't have respect for themselves? Who glues Asian women's hair on their head?
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Black women hate black men this is nothing new
@@aquarius-woman5364
You’re the one killing my brain cells.
1:47:21 if Black men are SO BAD TO EVERYBODY…. And she DOESNT Date black men herself (she said she didn’t deal with them about 10 minutes before this)…. Then WHY is she so concerned about who black men date? There is no love in her heart for black men whatsoever so I don’t understand this whole “race preserving, black men are doing us bad by dating outside the race but they’re bad to everybody they date” shit
Single and bitter .
Single, bitter, controlling, racist and sexist. That’s why.
she got no love but plenty hate , hate is a good motivator too.
Let's not pretend that black men are overeprentented in committing crimes. While being a minority.
@@aquarius-woman5364 that doesn't answer the question I asked and I'm not concerned with discussing the misrepresentation of black men
The thumbnail helped me realize that despite being a black woman's name, Destiny is in fact, not black nor a woman.
something doesn't add up... what do you mean destiny's not black?
The red arrow in the thumbnail makes it clear she is not black, but why are you assuming he is not a woman?
@@dv2945 not a woman, just a girls name
The first time this joke has been funny. 😂😂😂😂
My cousin named destiny is black 💀
I absolutely hate that Analicia was able to CONSTANTLY interrupt and belittle while being treated with an incredible amount of patience and leeway.
it was super frustrating
She literally is afraid of confrontation. She crumbles as soon as she gets called out and uses the "see i was right" as a shield to avoid the conversation. Literal coward. She says black men only know how to cower...yet she cowers every time the fire rises. Literal hypocrite. She's just racist, especially with that race preservation bullshit. Let a white person say that and people would be up in arms. Very toxic and quick to shut orhers down but wants to be heard. Also, if you have to constantly establish you're a good person and you "love" everyone...chances are you're a piece of trash, and her attitude amd actions show that tenfold
Men let women do this to them all the time. It is a sickneeeessss.
And we do not want it
@@Cybertech134
Men aren't warned what the worst of women look like but women get a heads up on the worst of men.
And radical feminists like this racist black woman actively gaslight and shame young men and young women and their elders from warning young ppl about the worst of women and their strats.
When she was up against Sharpe I was on her side. When she was up against Fanatiq, I realized Sharpe was actually right.
She was wrong the whole stream
SHARP COOLEST SHARPEST PODCAST IN THE MF WORLD
Sharpe got that OG wisdom 😂
Sometimes it’s not what people say it’s how they say it cos sharpe has a worse tone than she did so he comes off more ignorant even if he’s more likely to be right
@@TriedYan I watched it and he didn't sound ignorant to me, maybe that's a race/culture thing? I don't know.
The anti-misogyny arc: rise of the misandrists
I don't entirely blame her. A lot of men are crap.
@@avacadocap9591 so are a lot of women. I wish y’all would stop acting like some special kind of victims.
@@avacadocap9591 and I don’t blame the misogynists 🎉
@@untilco bro, do you think Hitler just needed to sit down and “talk it out”? 😂😂😂
@@Macheako Why should he? He was right?
How is it that every negative comment a man makes towards women is misogynistic, but women can get on stream and be both sexist and racist with no push back? Notice how she constantly attacked black men but fanatiq never commented on black women smh
@The Herman Cain Awards Sharp is hilarious 😂😂
(Aba woke girl voice) Well that's because black women are oppressed and on the lower totem pole compared to black men, so when they are engaging in misandry it's actually just them punching up. Maybe next time you have an opinion just remember you're a man and that makes you sexist and privileged okay yaass
what has she said that was racist? or even sexist? ... talking about people that have a certain race or sex doesn't make it sexist, you just don't agree with what she is saying.
@@JaguarGames1337 read the definition of racism and watch the video again.
@@JaguarGames1337 she literally just said “black men ain’t shit” but with more words
Now idk about you but yes most of her experience is with black men but idk
I cut females of my race a lot of slack despite how balls out fucking insane they are but she seems to attribute every negative thing to them which I feel can be taken as racially charged
Did anyone else notice that she didn’t have a problem with Destiny mispronouncing her name, but took offense when Sharp said the exact same thing?
I actually love that Aba is part of the Destiny-sphere now. Aba and Preach have been my favorite commentary channel for a while, and destiny has been my streamer of choice for a while. It's wild to see them collab so often
Same here. Been A&P for a long time, and always like their takes. Also like Destiny because of his engagement with a variety of ppl different political and social backgrounds. It's very fascinating to see these two content creators combine. I hope their collaboration continues to be fruitful and doesn't divulge like Destiny's previous "friends and acquaintances".
For real
Same here
@@CrazClown yaa. I also like that they don't suck each other's c*cks and provide pretty heavy pushback on things
Destiny Cinematic Universe
After all the nazi's of the past, it's somehow a black woman that is the most racist person i have ever heard speak on destiny's channel.
Wait to find about Cynthia G, most racist black woman on RUclips.
Exactly
duh you didnt know
Look up Cynthia G…she’s just like this
Calm down🤣🤣🤣
I'm amazed of Steven's ability to find even worse people than the ones before
i did NOT expect the sharp guy hahaha that was.. WOW!
@@jipen same
Brings on a literal fucking pimp lmao
What you mean by people! Cuz they black! Black people! Ya i thought so !
People...... Sheeeeeit!
The guy in the beginning is exactly right. I’m a gay woman, more on the dominant side. Men are not attracted to me (which is good) for this reason. They look at me like another dude but me being a chick I know they’re physically stronger, and in biology terms they can do more than I can physically. That being said I like submissive women myself, being the hard worker I am I want to provide and protect my girl. I don’t feel I need protection but it’s not unwarranted again because I’m a girl I like the feeling of security. I have 7 brothers and some of them had girls try and pull a power move on them that completely turned them off of said girl, and that is because men are naturally our protectors. They want to provide and have their woman care for them their house and kids. No man or gay woman wants a chick that’s always like… her. It’s just too fucking much honestly.
I've seen it first hand sometimes you don't want to go home to a fight. Like if we're gonna argue I'll leave. Which is what men do instead of staying there and a child sees it. Too many "fake" hard women puff up because they know the legal system has their back when they act up. They'll do something reckless and have the police there swiftly so. We as people know we have to avoid them because they're dangerous. We're trying to "protect them" and realize we need to protect ourselves. This is why the loner culture became more of a thing. If there's nothing to protect why am I here? That's how a lot of dudes see relationships. Everybody want to confide in somebody yet if it isn't there. It's better to just get off and leave.
I'm not normally a huge fan of Fanatiq due to his tendency to speak over other's responses. However, dude absolutely can in clutch here not only for dismantling her argument, but also in actually letting the audience see how insane her beliefs actually were. I'm loving this arc.
Same here, I find it really annoying, but hell, he kicked ass during this instance. Real nice to see.
Yeah i didnt realize how completely brain rotted and retarded she was until he came in and was actually willing to engage with her.
Sometimes you need that unbearable person in your group so they could deal with other unbearable people 😂😂
She’s about 50% correct …. That other 50 dear lord no.
His ignorance to the treatment of Asians, Hispanics and Europeans during early immigration is kinda yikes tho
This woman really thinks she is more intelligent and empathetic than she actually is
She comes off as an ultra feminist claiming to not be.... while also being a flat out racist lol (and yes you can be racist to your own people)
Most people do, but not like that.
No shit
Lav 2.0
Her foresight is probably more of a remembrance of talking points in which she loss before
It's a little scary this woman is in social work... have a feeling she can't keep this level of bias out of the workplace.
its extremely concerning cause she fucking has a serious hate and bias for us black men and it shows. there is a saying " if your not racist youll never have to keep saying" btu ever second " i dont hate black men " proceeds to shit on them all stream
May be less applicable (not from America) but when I've had to tangle with social workers so many can only see what their worldview allows them to see.
And woe betide if you don't fit into the box they've set aside for you.
and black males have this same attitude about black women, but you aren't worried/care about black women being mistreated by black males. just move on, paige.
@@TheBlackLukaLevi it was bad enough having to listen to Annalicia contorting everything anyone said to justify her cope spiral without you joining in.
@@noobslayer1196 are you not? if you are black then I hope you will not lie and say that black males don't make fun of black women for having dark skin, they do. y'all only cry when black women throw that same heat back at black males.
I never comment, but this conversation was so unbearable to listen to... Especially when it got to the "mixed race" nonsense she raised. She generalized an entire group of people, advocated for only dating within your own racial groups, and practically segregating mixed race people into their own groups. Honestly, every bit of this was absurdly racist and hostile towards black men. She was able to vigorously spout off this ignorance but as soon as any person capable of pushback came on, she would get instantly defensive and terrified of what would be said against her. Destiny also had to pander towards her and practically cater to her in every capacity to even have her stay on the line. She is an ignorant racist perpetuating her own closed-minded viewpoints. As a black/white biracial guy, I have seen so many strong and upstanding black men in my life that its just so silly to generalize an entire race to a broadly white audience based off of clear negative interactions within her own life that doesn't represent anyone else's. Advocating for racial separation and "not mixing the races" is the exact opposite I believe in. I married and have a child with a Latina (Puerto Rican) and I would have it no other way. Blending cultures is exactly how we get away from this vile nonsense racism this lady is spouting. Hope she gets zero extra followers from her begging to have her Instagram shouted out. What a terrible representation of a culture. Much love to everyone else. Peace and love, my friends ✌🏽.
I know it hits home with you because without interracial marriage/dating, you wouldn't be here.
Based comment
She is bigoted racist.
Look, race is not even real. It is a social construct, hell the US census allows you to identify with whatever you want because it is based on the culture you were exposed to. It has been scientifically proven that race does not exist. I don't understand why the United States and Europe still like to group people up, like you cant tell who is what. Different groups of people have different cultural practices and these do not depend on skin color or physical features. If anything, we should group people based on their tribe regardless of physical features.
I hope she blows up and becomes famous.
The fact that u bring up her personal life is the whole thing.
She is being general and have actual statistics evidence to back her not just "hi this is my opinion".
So this is the perfect place and time for the change to happen. And I love Destiny is challenging everyone.
30 min in and i was looking for this exact comment.
Her saying things like black men are the group she cares the least about how they feel, defended someone saying to abort black male babies, and how she basically had so much smoke for and had no patience for any black man that came on, including Aba, this seems to be coming from a place of resentment than concern and an attempted make things better.
I dont wont to presume this is why she acts this way but she is a single mother
@@adlwas8176
My mom is a single mother raised 6 KIDS while being poor and has never acted like this demon.
what wrong? why should we preserve a race? what's wrong with aborting black babies? 4thot would a gree that preserving a race is foolish.
@@LoopyLemon775 just because a single mother acts like this, doesnt mean they all do. But those that do act like this are normally single mothers
@@adlwas8176
I know that.
I’m just saying.. just because she’s a single mother doesn’t give her a pass for the way she’s acting.
Some of what she said made sense and was poignant, but just her level of UNHINGEDNESS makes it sound like she won't be satisfied until black men single handedly start a pro-black nationwide coup, WIN, and then make it illegal to have kids out of wedlock, but have the law only apply specifically for black men and usher in a new utopia of humanity where black women receive reparations for past mistreatment, but only from black men.
Basically what I'm hearing from her arguments is that us black men have to be responsible for making huge changes in our communities that lead to more fathers in homes, more black marriage, etc. My problem with her overall sentiment(and the sentiment of many black women I've talked to in real life) is that black men are the main group that need to make these major changes while black women don't have to do as much when it comes to not having children out of wedlock and successful relationships, etc. As black men we're all grouped together as not being ish, but if we generalize black women or date interracially then we're vilified.
Too bad the Fred Hampton was assassinated by the FBI
@@BlkStar99 Pretty much this lmao, it's this completely unhinged take.
@@Hubin12 Yeah I agree. It's easy to say that black men need to go to college and get higher paying jobs or that we need to get married and build stable households. The problem is when there are many black men growing up in poverty that rarely get the education to go to college in the first place, or there not not being fathers in the household so we don't know what a stable household entails.
@@BlkStar99
Based!
This woman, is given an issue with every person she interacts with, and even starts attacking Steven for trying to give other people the opportunity to give a perspective he can't have. Seriously at some point, when literally every single human being this bitter woman interacts with has a negative experience, and no one else seems to have that issue, she needs to self reflect and realize she is the the only common denominator, she is the problem.
>Fanatic comes in
>calmly engages
>incredibly respectful
>gets cut off
>”You’re treating me like a child!”
bruh
@@johnlonne7062 yeah lol it’s weird to see
@@invaderHUNK so crazy. at first I was feeling kind of bad for her after the first few guys. but when fanatic jumped on it was clear she was just being defensive and petty
Fanatic is so uniquely equipped to handle this conversation. It's like he has trained his whole life for this exact conversation.
I listened to this video just giddily waiting for him to show up
@@troyareyes
I almost wish the title didn't spoil the line up lol.
I don't know what the FLYING fuck Destiny thought Sharp was gonna be the best decision for that lmao. Seen 2-3 segments with him on there taking to some goofy women and the dude is no-nonsense, no bullshit, no cap. No WAYYYYY a know-it-all was gonna last a full convo with a no-nonsense type of person
@@knes167 I agree, Sharp was really about to cook her if she just was more receptive. Once she didnt even answer the man question I knew it was done.
💯💯
@@troyareyes you just ironically said giddily
I don't know why Destiny said he doesn't understand the Black experience, because Destiny is a Black girl's name.
More like a strippers name.
A black strippers name
Honestly I have only heard of white girls name that. Destiny reminds me of the name Chasity. Don’t like either one
Actually true. I had a black girl who's name was pronounced Destiny so I either think of the video game or the black girl when I hear people call the Streamer girl Destiny by Destiny instead of their real name, Stephanie
I thought that was Destiny’s Child
I was kinda with her when she super called it on how the first two guys would act and respond, but then when Fanatiq didn't act like that and was addressing her points she started getting super aggressive and her rhetoric definitely seemed like she does actually dislike black men. She cut Fanatiq off sooooo many times. Sometimes she'd talk for a couple minutes, then he'd barely get out one sentence before she'd hostilely jump in and keep him from making a point at all. It got quite frustrating to listen to, especially since she was so upset if he interjected even a little. She seemed to scoff at any defense of them or sharing of the blame, even when talking about consensually having children out of wedlock. To be fair to her, we all know it's easy to stubborn in a debate, and it's also difficult to be receptive when you perceive the situation to be hostile, and she did have two bad experiences just prior. So who knows. It could be a combination of things that caused it, but it came off as a bad look to me.
Those other two men knew her demeaner these women are all over. She made the convo hostile, neither sharp or 4thot were hostile. They saw how aggressive she was talking about people that YOU identify with. She gave no respect to not one black man she constantly regraded.
Yea seems emotionally charged which is valid and makes sense as a black woman but it makes some ever talking points come across as hating .. individuals need to take responsibility but groups of people have carried certain burdens that should be acknowledged too . Both men ,woman ,white and black . Socialgical speaking men didn't just start leaving the home for nothing but it's no excuse, just saying follow the logic more
So a single mom complaining about men and blaming them about how they act and don't hold themselves accountable yet most of the men she complained about were raised by single moms yet the mothers apparently had nothing to do with how their sons turned out ?
Exactly. She just hates men. From whatever her personal experience has been. Black men love their (single) mothers.
Fanatiq was perfectly reasonable, she ruined all her points by being so indignant with someone who was trying to have an actual conversation with her
He destroyed her logic. Was respectful. She is officially the most unbearable women on this channel that was painful…
@@fifiadan I never said she’s wrong. I actually agree with many of her points, the problem is the outcome she wants (black men changing) she will not get through to us at all the way she speaks. In fact she’s only making the problem worse, I imagine most black men also hearing this are as turned off as me by her rhetoric. Men actually respond really well to female encouragement, not to male bashing
@@QMS9224 "He destroyed her logic" absolutely is literally the same thing as saying she is wrong.
Dude, i never thought i would see Fanatiq look like the chosen one of reason, logic, and patience
@@fifiadan The quest is what is she right about, there are a number of things said that she is right about. That stats are the stats. The moment she starts analyzing the stats she falls off.
Few things as annoying as listening to someone vent their emotions while insisting it's all logic and data driven.
I thought we’d see less of this after Mrgirl’s departure 🙃 NOPE
Well, we put up with the red pill community on here all the time, so why not have the other side as well?
@@bganonimouse2754 It is more fun to listen to fresh and fit than this...
@@MaliohammadDesigns at least they are honest about what they about
@@MaliohammadDesigns Yes, they are youtube entertainers.
Ana is completely misrepresenting the historical context of the African-American community. I don’t know if it’s because she is from Canada and just doesn’t know about this or what. But, her version of Reconstruction Era and the Great Migration is completely false. Black men were always the head of household and breadwinner within the black community up until the Vietnam War. Historically, black Americans have always been conservatives and family oriented. Once we even had the highest marriage rate in the nation pre-1950s.
The problem here, is that the black man has always been the largest demographic makeup of the middle-labor class. Jobs like steel-workers, millers, chimney-sweeps, bricklayers, stonemasons and smith work for example. Black women typically worked as “the Help” as most of us know.
Throughout Jim-Crow Segregation KKK lynchings, WW1 and WW2 many black men were killed off or institutionalized. This left many black women to rely on the black church and/or the government for financial assistance. So much more happened between this time period and 1968 and I encourage you to look it up for yourself. Instead of blindly believing this mischaracterization of black men in general.
She’s been watching too much Cynthia G, she practically a Cynthia g clone
This was the entire convo..
Her - everything is men's fault
Destiny - okay
Literally
alright, come clean. which one of you black men hurt this woman
Apparently all of them 😂
I’m guessing it’s one of my dark skinned brothers. Her calling fresh burnt is flatly racist
🙋🏾♂️ Guilty! 🤣
Promise it wasn’t me
Lmaooooo I was LOOKING for this comment
Fanatiq....as an individual who has watched you here and there for around 2 years.
You were so good in how you handled yourself and talked.
I respect you so fucking much.
You weren't condescending in the slightest and were very respectful and concise here.
I was blown away by how solidly you presented yourself in he conversation.
It was nice that he got to be the protagonist on a Destiny stream for once.
I've only seen him in past discussions like thrice, tops, and I always thought he was unhinged, but coming across this, I'm actually really impressed
@@RolaiEckolo Just seemed liked he needed to work on his patience and being pragmatic in dealing with people that are impatient to him, it made him look childish tbh but if hes improved I can definantly listen to him because tbh I dont really disagree with him
I was kinda thinking this woman was fairly reasonable for most of the conversation between her and Destiny, but once Fanatiq came on and was making an actual effort to be civil and on-point, it immediately became painfully clear what a HUUUUUGE chip she has on her shoulder... Like jesus christ...
I don't agree with Fanatic's politics overall but I have so much respect for his ability to discuss level headedly with unhinged and bad faith debaters. I likely mostly agree with her politics, but it's fairly obvious she's bigoted against black men, and ONLY knows how to talk to a certain type of "black man."
She was completely sabotaged by having Fanatic come in and speak calmly with her - she wanted to type cast and dismiss him so badly.
She is like “ I work in the community “ as a social worker😂 that is arguably one of the worst cross sections of a community
well said. exactly
fanatiq is unbearably long winded and interrupts more than even mr. Girl
@@taylor_o not even close. Fanatiq makes clear and decisive points, while mr. Girl talks in circles without ever getting to the point.
@@kylewilzon8612
True 😂
"Women don't divorce good men"... It was at this point that I started disliking her.
Oh they sure due hypergamy will always kick in. After they realize there husband is good to them there gonna run to chads and Tyrone’s and fall in love with them but not realizing there not in love with them back. 😂😂😂😂😂😅
You didn’t ‘dislike’ her the minute she shown her contempt for black men?
@@bellegarde7822 I'm used to hearing that from black women but tried to hear her out through that bullshit. Then the "divorce good men" showed the unreasonable and unempathetic asshole she is.
She said that before all the racist stuff
For someone that seems to be pro-black she is using fresh and fits positions to push anti-blackness. Calling the man burnt as if to imply having much darker skin is negative or undesirable. Her bias or deep seated disdain for black men is showing.
I agree there are lot of issues in the black community when it comes to dating but most of these issues aren't exactly unique.
And I find it interesting that black women like her always lean on traditional education when they want to position themselves above black men... but they leave out black men are largely following education trends for men generally speaking. When you mix systemic factors that have plagued the community, it becomes more pronounced. That said, there's still more black men and women in school than ever before.
The median income of black men is higher than that of black women. Whether due to sexism or whatever that's a fact but they leave that out.
Most black owned businesses in the US are owned and operated by black men. But they leave that out bc "education".
Most black millionaires in the US are black men. But they leave that out.
81% of black men are single without children and so are most black women. So if we want to talk about single mother hood being endemic, the cause is 19% of black men and the black women that choose to engage with them.
That said, when everyone says singlemotherhood is endemic in the black community. They are referencing a CDC report that counted any unmarried woman as a single mother regardless of the fathers involvement. If you cohabitated, split custody, or anything with the father you were still counted as single mother.
The same report said black fathers tend to be more involved than other races. But they leave that out.
So again, I get that there are problems but we need to stop measuring the entire community by its worst parts.
She's only proving Kevin Samuel's to be correct. Can't even have a conversation with her and talk about her negativity.
kevin samuels proved he is nothing but a statistic.🤣 a black male with high blood pressure is so common.
@@TheBlackLukaLevi how is high blood pressure funny?
@@donjowansafadi8739 him calling black women ugly as he is a black man, can be nothing but karma. his heart was ugly morally and physically from all that red bull he was chugging down his dirty mouth.🤣🤣🤣
@@TheBlackLukaLevi high blood pressure is not funny. It could stem from childhood malnutrition or severe stress. He's not fat so it's not related to his weight or diet. I have a father who has chronic high blood pressure. I worry very much and I pray every day he manages his high blood pressure and can eat good diet and have low stress. (He manages to this every day to his best ability) Earlier this year I had a scare where his high blood pressure randomly become real high and was throwing up and getting nauseous. It's not funny.
@@donjowansafadi8739 some people are demons seriously. 😒
There are ways to say “Black men should not get a free pass to not uphold good ethics” without being this vitriolic and bitter. You generally win debates by holding strong on your arguments, but being willing to concede some points to the opposing side. Her entire argument was literally “all the problems are exclusively the fault of black men.” It’s IMPOSSIBLE for that to be true. There is NO PROBLEM ANYWHERE EVER that is exclusively within the purview of one specific group of persons to create or resolve. If nothing else, her convo with Fanatiq made it clear that she’s entrenched in an extreme negative viewpoint, despite it being obvious from the beginnings of her convo with Destiny. Once he asked her about solutions & she said that she couldn’t say because nobody would agree with her, I knew she was bad faith. The only person who would say that is someone who has never gotten so far as to think of possible solutions.
Listening to her talk to Fanatiq was literally painful. The number of times she got pissed at him for interjecting while literally constantly doing it to him was so frustrating to listen to.
The moment someone says three words she assumes she knows the entire argument and viewpoint then just starts rambling. Then by the time they get back to the Convo the train of thought is lost.
Lol I just posted the same comment
Did you see the stream from last night? She came back on and screamed over people for like 3 hours straight.
"OH MY GAWD"
I have to say, she was 100% correct when Shrap and Aba joined in. Made me feel like I understand her vitriol. But then she acted like a petulant child when talking to Fanatiq... Now I'm not sure if the chicken or the egg came first.
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor Oh she was even MORE unhinged in that stream hahaha. It was nuts.
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor I can’t take any more of this!! But I can’t stop watching
Annalicia claims to not hate black men, but I'll be damned if she doesn't sound exactly like someone who hates black men.
Yeah she clearly hates black men. She moved goal post to many times
Fucking THIS
@@FringeSpectre ain’t no way someone didn’t break her heart. Even racist people don’t hate black men this much.
It comes out in the little side things she says like "Black women have been holding the family together alone for a millenia and they'll have to keep doing that as long as they have to deal with Black men" like she internalized all the awful shit they say about white people in some cringe poli sci courses and applied it to the black household
@@KaiserReb White men love you so much that they created a jail system and made it black mens second home. You're overpopulated there thanks to the white man.
Her: The CDC study about black men being involved with their children is wrong because it was self reported data.
Also her: Women make these claims, and they're always true.
😂😂😂
She had ALL THE SMOKE when talking to Destiny alone. The MOMENT she was challenged it's "I don't want to talk to you!". Gtfoh
the most annoying part to me is how implicitly and straightforwardly aggressive and standoffish she is, but calls other people out for being aggressive or rude to her
It’s the group that always say projecting when they’re the ones who constantly project
She's used to being infatalized.... and probably has ADHD which comes with poor social skills including but not limited to; rambling, fixation, inability to string together a cohesive thought.
@@dfri1754 you mean the other thing she was doing in every sentence? Lmao
Often people tend to hold other standards to others than themselves.. can often turn into entitlement.
Omg, finally FINALLY a video without Lav. A video about something that's ACTUALLY INTERESTING. Holy fuck. I'm glad that he finally got Fanatiq on to actually push back. Sharp calling her sweetie over and over again had me literally dead. AND asking if she had a man LITERALLY like 10 minutes after she told Steven that they always ask that was also priceless. I think Fanatiq did a really good job holding his head via the circumstances, she fell apart a little once she started getting actual push back and he did a pretty good job all things being said not flaming her even though she was talking twice as much and interrupting every sentence.
I want to like her but I'm basically going in faith that she actually likes black men because nothing she didn't represent herself as such at all. She finally got a respectable man to talk to her and she was so disrespectful and condescending and frankly bad faith. I literally want to support her because I'm anti redpill, she's not the spokesperson for that job.
Wait till u see part two kek
@@lourj3883 I actually really loved this. She don't care about black mens feelings if they won't acknowledge how they themselves treat black women... She is literally saying look at the statistics if people don't take her word.
The stats don't really back up her point though. I took a look and black women don't earn more money than black men, mostly because black men work trades more often than black women. Black women earn more degrees than black men, but only 30% have a degree while 26% of black men have a degree, which isn't a steep discrepancy. I tried to see her point but it seemed like she just wanted a platform to rattle off her unhinged takes about black men. She thinks black women should date out and "doesn't care about black men", yet wants black men to do better and fix everything so there can be black families. It was 3 hours of cognitive dissonance.
@@Hodanbileh that's an interesting interpretation. To me it looks like she's projecting her hatred of black men unto statistic and putting black women on a pedestal. Likely because she has a gripe with the Alpha male types and just reacting as if that's all black men. She's clearly not able to be objective whatsoever
2:55:00 the issue with Destiny's point that i don't hear Fanatiq mentioning is the difference between the origins between those like Blacks and those like the Italians and Chinese. The Irish, Italians, Chinese and the like is that the Latter were From other civilizations with a decent understanding of society and working and such that they could manage to make a living while building their future for their children. Black people, like Natives, had hundreds of years and dozens of generations of oppression that kept them from building futures and uplifting themselves. That's why Native Americans are the poorest and least educated of all groups in America. Because we and they had generations of being treated like wild animals and livestock, and even being executed for trying to educate ourselves and our people. But we have had 60 years to change that, but how does a group change what has been integrated into their society down to a generational level? Kind of like how humans learned to fear low growls of predators like bears and tigers because of generations of being hunted by them, our kind has passed on generational oppression of not valuing education and being complacent with oppressive white democrat politicians ruining our communities. This is not acceptable and we need to change it, but it's hard to change such engrained societal destruction.
The fact that she’s a black woman calling a black man “burnt” and looking down on him for his dark skin is insane
Happens all the time even in childhood I have never really seen a black man diss a woman of his same race racially but a million times a woman to a man for some strange reason.
That was saddening to hear.
@@no_player_commentary as a wyte i never ever understood this
@@no_player_commentary Ive definitely had experiences with black men where they made fun of me for having dark skin (even when they also had dark skin) its fucked up on both sides
What appalled me was generally the heavy judgement towards kinda everyone.
Women that didn't study were loosers.
Black men are loosers too.
Etx
Not gonna lie I was agreeing with her for the most part in the first portion of their conversation. I was luckily set up in a life where I could see both sides of the spectrum. I am 19 at this time, black and I’m in college for accounting, I find it disingenuous when she speaks about all black men as if they’re deserters and useless because I did have a father figure, and I can trace back that he had a father figure, and so on so forth. But on the other side my father did not have a father figure because he was killed at 27, my brother was killed at 28 even though he was as focused on improving himself and taking care of his kids. The problem is not just black men or black women but the fact that black men are stigmatized to be a societal villain, but if they improve themselves, or if they do sustain a family unit but are in the hood they’ll end up dead before they can live out their lives. This stuff is easy to track back, and even with Kevin Samuels the reason people didn’t really talk about his conversations with men is because they typically internalized the message and went on with their life. In contrast black women would be the ones to take offense to his harsh wording.
Same stigmatisation of betterment persists in London. Whether or not it's to the same degree I'm unsure... but it's as if there are demons in our ranks.
We're not loud about this problem but we should be - it's a lot to fight against when you're growing up. A lot to shut out.
I'd argue there are people going places today who could've gone a lot further without that battle.
@Jordan Sherrington I think you misunderstood me. I meant stigma within the black community around academic pursuits. You can be effortlessly smart but you're a 'bounty' if you're keen🙄
At least when I was growing up, I'm not sure how it is today. Sentiments in my generation have changed - as we got older, we (they) realised being articulate and well read is a net positive - but I wonder how black kids behave today and if they're repeating the same cycle.
I've not lived in the UK for years...
I mean.... She´s calling all us black men, not some or most, but All us black men degenerative and a bunch of other insults, but wants to get in her feelings because a black man rebounded her energy back at her. Okay then.
"Hey you degenerate, lazy, family abandoning, victim mentality having, no good black men, I want to have a debate, but I don't want to make this personal".
You can't make this ish up.
-Kevin Samuels
then when fanatiq(i’m unsure how to spell his name) came on she even called him a “black man” in other words she was just using “black men” to call all black men the n-word hard R and it’s actually insane
@@dread3165 indeed. As you watch, and watch her against ABA who just destroys her, you start to learn that she is just playing a fools argument in that she already has personal negative bias against us because of the few she interacted with, and then looked for confirmation thought these studies she doesn't understand are extremely skewed. These studies most of the time are selective in the region and sample size as in they usually are conducted on a small population of a few thousand in a specific city of a certain state. These studies can't reflect accurately tens of millions of people across such a vast and massively diverse nation like the US. These studies also limit the results by removing or neglecting many variables because those don't simplify the results the researchers are wanting. But, she just blindly reads without fully understanding the whole of the studies that she's citing, and says these are hard proof of her illicit bigotry towards black men is justified.
They can dish it but can’t take it
The wild thing to me is that black men have been harshly criticizing black women all over the internet for years
But as soon as we return the energy, we’re misandrists
Fanatic: lalalalalalalalal
Aba: “woah woah”
Annalicia: BLACK MEN
Steven: 😂😂😂
She's moving the goal post. She's a bad faith debater and or just outright unhinged. I'm done.
Not sure which part your reffering to but I can kind of see that.
I think she's just unhinged in the sense that she has some resentment and she can't be honest with herself about it.
She moves the goal post on accident every time they try to get her to recognize that maybe there are other factors at play or maybe there is some legitimacy to what black men say.
Destiny gave her a lot of free points for the sake of discussion and she was very stingy about doing the same for him
Unhinged? Its because of black men shes unhinged. Jokingly and literally.
@@superidot1 no, destiny was way too soft on her. Fanatiqs brought up stats for black people, her response was always "because black men". His gig qrgument at the beginning was pertinent, bc she would be happy if the black man who knocked her up who was making gig money didnt go to prison or die, she wouldnt have a problem at all. I agree with what you said, but you cant treat aggressiveness with passiveness. She should have been checked 1,000 times before she had a platform that reaches as many people as Destinys does.
@@gregs3823 Can't find your comment now but I'll respond.
I agree forsure he was too soft on her. But I do think we should keep in mind that her actions might not actually be from conscious bad faith.
She definitely dosnt deserve this specific platform however. Everything people said about how lav should go do other stuff is more true here
@@gregs3823 that's a typical take of today's generation. No accountability for their own actions. "This man is bad therefore not my fault if I'm unhinged and unable to function like a normal person. When I berate you, it's the man's fault."
This Ana is the proof that you can allways find someone worse. We thought MrGirl was bad and insane, then come Lav to be even worse, and now this Ana that can reach a new low.
Instead of ppl in the scene learn and get better, they look better bringing someone even worse lmao.
I'd only call her worse if we get another 6 hours of looping, like with your other two examples. 9 hours seems a fair threshold there, its not all about "quality" with annoyance, the quantity can even be worse.
@@matt_9112 at least Mr girl has some points but this woman is incredibly insufferable
@@matt_9112 A self-hating racist who threw racial slurs at Fanatiq and Tree? Nahhh ill take Mr Girl and his gaslighting any day over the horror that is Anna.
@@waynewayne8419 Not to mention Mr. Girl is entertaining. He's a wild card, and that is a quality few have.
i think lav is still the worst
I wish someone had asked her "if black men are the gatekeepers of marriage, why don't black women wait until marriage before having sex/children with them?" She refuses to ask single mothers to take any kind of accountability for having sex without the guarantee of marriage, lol
In her perspective black men should suck up and marriage single mothers. Even if said black men don’t want to marry a women who has no kids. She’s so disgusting as a person in this topic. She wants to bash black men in general. Making general statements is bad since that is implying all black men. Even grouping the good ones. Moral of the story fuck her
Yeah. That’s definitely what it would take to guarantee not being an unwed mom. Abstinence is basically the only reason why the single motherhood rates were so low before the 70’s (and why they’re so low in other cultures and religious communities). We’d have to be an abstinence-only culture to retrieve those statistics again. But nobody wants to challenge the dominant culture. They always want to criticize the people who are carrying the evidence of it.
That goes against the own your sexuality feminist arc so it's paradoxical to them.
People don't need to get married they just need a decent partner
@@PurpleColonel ehh you get a lot of tax benefits from being married but otherwise I agree
Sharp only used 2% of his true power. That lucky woman
Swear to god, I was ready for Sharp to cut the fuck up on her 😂
Coulda gave her that lil kelpy energy 😭
The "dating down" section was wild. Say what you will about F&F and Sneako but they are totally willing to date down and have some girl who used to work at Burger King as a house wife.
But this woman spent the first hour complaining that she can't find a man in the black community who makes more money than her, and is totally unwilling to "settle" for a guy who'll stay home, cook dinner, and play Legos with the kids.
She already admitted she doesn't watch F&F long form content. Just like all the women who dragged Kevin Samuels because of his clips. She drags F&F, but they make that point time and time again on their show about what she's complaining about. Which is hypergamy, she make lots of money and wanting a man who makes more. Those black men have options and she's mad she's not one of them. It's mind-numbing now women can't grasp this simple concept about themselves.
But dating a BK worker isn't dating down for them. They want a woman who is hot. They don't care what her income is.
@@downsjmmyjones101 Generally men don't put emphasis on a women's income.
Im not gonna bother watching the whole thing again, but i dont remember her ever saying that she needs someone who makes more than her, or that she makes a lot of money. Much less anything relating to a personal desire for hypergamy. She was more focused on getting black men to value marriage and community building. The career building she talked about sounded to me like she just wanted black men to have stable jobs in general. Not for them to be wealthy necessarily. U can let me know if i missed the part where she said otherwise. Or maybe ur familiar with her outside content where she does idk.
@@YT-wt7fe *"The career building she talked about sounded to me like she just wanted black men to have stable jobs in general."*
Black men now are more employee than ever. So no, it isn't about _"stable"_ jobs more so the quality of the job they are doing. Her resentment comes from a point lack of quality of high earning black men. She made that point about the income rate with black men.
She tells on herself when she points out that black men date out more than black women. Fanatiq makes the point why don't you date out than, she can but it's harder because black women are deem less attractive to other races which she knows that.
I'm only 40 minutes into this, but Destiny seems really uncomfortable. This woman seems like she wants him to defend Fresh and Fit's positions when he doesn't even agree with them. Why doesn't she try to have a conversation with Myron? Why is she here?
She would get absolutely flammed irl in the podcast and she wouldn't dare to talk to Myron the way she does to destiny. And the podcast goes live more black man sees her true color and avoids her, it's a never ending vicious cycle.
@@calebgao6931 she just seems to want to shit on black men to someone who isn't totally equipped to defend them. This isn't destiny's fight.
That no jumper guy didn't help by coming on and being super condescending. He made me feel bad for her, even though she had been kind of shitty for much of the conversation.
@@Darm0k honestly I'd never thought the sharp crossover would ever happen in destiny's channel.
When dude came in with "what's your problem S W E E T Y" I burst out of laughter. I guess sharp is a little bit too boomer to use discord call also the poor mic quality kind of proves my point. So dude uses he's irl pimping skill on discord call plus a woman like that it's a literal recipe for disaster.
Fanatiq was honestly the best person for the job because he showed the contrast to her purported views by her actions. Everything thats opposite to the degeneracy was what fanatiq embodied. He was calm, intelligent and engaged with stats, yet she still vehemently opposed him which shows her colors. If Myron were there, he would’ve been more aggressive and it wouldn’t have looked as bad for Anna.
This debate would be a lot better if you guys would just let Fataniq finish his point.
As a black men i can confirm i do indeed plan on destroying the world or whatever she said 🗿☕️
🤣🤣🤣
As a brazilian, half of me wants to destroy the world too! 🦕
Based
Same bro, I came out of the womb with a Glock 17 fused to my wrist instead of a right hand, and my first ever word was felony. She really gets us.
Anna is crazy. and the fact that guy in the beginning made her look reasonable in that clip is even more crazy. Anna made a semi decent point and he’s obsessing over making her submissive. that’s so weird to me
Bruh what an unbearable person. Fanatiq you have my appreciation
I lost so many brain cells over her inability to understand her own hypocrisy
Sharp coming in and doing exactly what she said was going to happen was like something out of a sitcom
Mannnn
@zain ali it's an emote for channel members
destiny really thought bringing in a former pimp was a good idea, LMAO
Never seen a dude lose a debate within 10 seconds.
I haven’t even watched that part yet but he’s a very predictable guy
Destiny's patience for delusional people never ceases to amaze me
I love how she inadvertently proved Abas point by just dismissing what the first guy was saying and not engaging in an actual conversation
Yea the dude resorted to personal insults so he didn’t deserve it
@@vydenr486I'm sorry but the way she was disrespecting "black men" was way beyond a personal attack. In reality the things she was saying are similar arguments that would be regurgitated by far right terrorist like Dylan Roof, or the Buffalo Shooter.
She deserves no respect.
@@vydenr486well sorry but you can fucking whine whenever you aren’t saying absolutely wild shit
I dont know about you guys but her initial rant about black men,Kevin Samuels, and standards was borderline hate. Her argumentation is the very ammo black men can use to justify disrespect to other black women even some caught in the crossfire. She refuses to ask why black men make less, why black men aren't as educated, why more are dating outside their race, why there is such a major gap in how both the men and women intermingle, etc.
I dont think she came to you to seek knowledge she came to you for validation by throwing shade at a group of people dealing with complex issues that are beyond their control and acting like the vitriol she receives is unwarranted.
I’m just wondering why she’s targeting power class black men, and then generalizing all black men.
Beyond their control?
How is that only the question when it comes to men.
Black women face misogynist and racism
Get degrading by black men everywhere online
Don't abandon their children
Gets an education and jobs
But when Annalicia is saying black women should raise their standards it is a problem. Oh the irony of the redpill
black males are low in society because black women coddle them.
@@Hodanbileh Your points are nonsensical. Black men still suffer what black women suffer on top of the government still incentivizing single motherhood in the black community. In fact black women more than any other group are idolized for raising multiple kids without fathers. And if divorce is initiated by women a majority of the time at a higher rate, how exactly can black men control that? If black men make less money and are less educated than black women one can argue that there are other factors that black men deal with that black women don't.
Lastly you seem to have read "beyond their control" and ignored everything else entirely. My problem was she didn't ask the right questions. She read data and assumes it has to be set factors that fit her biases. Raising your standards doesn't fix anything as it forces more men out the mating pool creating further division amongst the sexes, which furthers my point.
@@TheBlackLukaLevi I don't think it's the coddling I think there's a strong amount of crab bucket mentality that keeps most in places where they can't leave that space because they know if they leave, they'll get know support.
Aba's call-in is the best way to "spark notes summary" Analica's mindset in this 4-hour convo.
I remember watching her on the Saint and Sinner debate. Shes just as insufferable now as she was back then. And it sucks because I love how she disagrees and that she disagrees in general, but then the way she carries herself just disgusts me throughout the convo. very poor etiquette indeed. Oh and insulting Kevin Samuels after he passed is just tasteless. Fanatiq did a good job keeping the conversation as respectful as he could.
She was right against Saint, he is a woman hater. This debate had more nuanced so she looked a lot worse and uncompromising
Oh no....Aba came in, said 2 sentences, and was completely right 🤣😂
Let this be a lesson to anyone who says a black person can't be racist lol. But this woman being so incredibly racist to her own race is unreal. My sympathies to any black destiny fans who had to suffer through this. I can only imagine how ticked off I'd be if I had walked in their shoes.
At least take solace in the fact that she'll be single for life. She's actually crazy which is why she blows up people's phones with voicemails instead of text messages like a normal crazy person..
Also pleasantly surprised by your engagement fanatiq. I knew you were somewhat professional in debates before but you handled this very well, down to your tone & everything
Yeah, Fanatiq absolutely did well here.
However, I don't think black people or black men in particular need any sympathy for this though, if anything they have dodged a bullet from this unhinged person.
All hatred is derived from a fundamental rejection of some aspect of yourself.
She's not new. Check out Cynthia G lol. Shit is wild over in the black Pink Pill community sometimes.
@@normandy2501 oof is that what they can it nowadays?
@@normandy2501 ahh so she’s one of those huh. Ngl I can’t stand Cynthia and women like her
Fanatiq’s claim that black men aren’t marrying due to fewer economic and employment opportunities doesn’t account for the many marriages that happened in previous generations in the same (and worse) conditions.
I’d like to hear his explanation for this divergence.
I honestly don’t think it has anything to do with economics. I think it’s a cycle in the black community.
@@garynichols9877 do men just want to remain single? I know a lot of never married older guys. interesting that they’re expressing regrets in their 60s.
@@lgibs666 I think there is a lot of hate towards men and women, not just black but a lot of black men and women.
@@garynichols9877 Yes, I sense that too. People not willing to yield and having unrealistic relationship expectations. My take is that if you don’t see what you want IRL in you personal circle, the likelihood you’ll get it is low (men & women). Too much identification with life in the social media, entertainment, and sports world. In the past average people married average people and usually had fulfilling lives.
As Sharp said, WE do not claim her.
You know this vibes bruh
Hell no
“For a bunch of women that can’t find a good man they sure do get pregnant a lot”.
Huh lmao
Destiny decided to send Anna to the Debate Black Men Speedrun
Anna?
@@uqs57bju I was making a joke because this video has a different Anna
@@debrachambers1304 BINGQILIN
@@uqs57bju Only recently started watching, was she on before?
@@chimichangainfusedleaf8961 Destiny used the have an insane stalker named Anna.
So she talks about cause and effect for black women but never once mentioned it for men. Kinda disgusting how she spoke to Fnatic and when she spoke to Destiny her tone was so different.
That's because Fanatiq was cooking her. A lot of women be softer to other races yet harder on their own.
She already tried to box Destiny in by asking how red pill he is? I think her mouth moves faster than her brain. She knows he said something red pilled that triggered her, but cannot fully recall it. She is moving fast.
For all the haters out there, This right here definitely proves that Destiny indeed loves black people.
Amazin!
BETA male...
It's so crazy that she fights against the 'red pill message', while falling into the same traps. If the men you're dating aren't making as much money as you, and that is a problem, either you view money and status as a desirable trait for a sexual partner, or you keep choosing to date poor partners and single motherhood is your fault. Both of these outcomes are red pill points, and she keeps falling into it thinking she's disproving it.
I would love to talk to Destiny about this, I think I can bridge the gap between her and Aba.
EDIT: Holy shit, I just listened to all 9 hours. I wish I could coach Annalisia (hope that's spelled right) on how to beat people in these spaces. I don't agree with all of her points, but if she could just navigate the conversations a little differently she can actually get her points across and win some people over.
Yes yes & yes. She’s overly emotional & incredibly delusional.
She’s misrepresenting the hell out of the Moynihan report.
Two side to everything men should take responsibility when spraying their seed all will nilly, same as to when a women opens her legs of course. Both sides need to take accountability.
@@44mamst that was pretty insane for a guy to say that a woman should work, take care of a house and kids AND sumbit. If a guy wants a submissive wife he better be able to provide and taking as much load outside of the house, off her shoulders as possible. That was a pretty crazy assertion, the only way it’s okay is if the man is working WAY harder. Either way female nature is more passive
i don't think her problem is with gender like the red pill. it's more with the black men. that they are disproportionately being bad.
God I love the question marks in chat. We were all in collective awe at what this women was saying
She barely quoted anything worth giving the time of day to as well as openly displayed clear bias between destiny and the rest of the black men that were there. She's a completely different person who's actually willing to listen be two destiny speak simply because he is not a black man. She spoke with the exact tone that Candace Owens has spoken about black people but particularly aims at black man and removes all nuance when it comes to the successes and fails of black man but. Can only give praise and reference to black women without any general critique or accept it for that matter. She utilizes poor strawman tactics when composing her argument of why black men can't do better and as Fanstiq stated, she'll utilize the fact that marginalization is happening. She started off describing herself as someone who works in communities with marginalized people but goes out of her way to be empathetically absent to black men. She asks why aren't they getting married or marrying black women and linger rates and she believes black women are much more with loyal when both black men and black women have statistically shifted those numbers. She dodged, cut off and relatedly refused to answer questions but spouted angrily misquoted numbers and data
Isn't the issue that people can't even agree that marginalization happens? To at least half of america your problems are your fault.
@@tarfielarchelone2674 that is a lot of gas lady position and alleviates all structural systematic damage and programming done to a marginalized people. People will make every situation someone complains about their own fault but ignore the path set by people that came before irrelevant for some reason.
@@tarfielarchelone2674 know your problems aren't your own fault because with that same logic that lady not being in a relationship or being a single mom it's her own fault an not the fault of black men. That would mean all that time during the man out of the house act, those women literally chose money over men and it didn't work out.
She lost to Fanatiq. He dropped the mic and left. Also Aba needs to be in every panel, he brings humor and level-headedness to the topic. I wish it didn't cut off at the end.
It was a funny cutoff point though
@@damarihanson3876 Aba had her wide open after Fanatiq dropped the mic with his comment. 😂
I agree with some of the arguments that she makes, but as a black man I hate the way that black women frame issues in black relationships as a problem that black men need to be responsible for fixing. We're constantly told that black men aren't ish as a generalization, but we can't address issues with black women without negative labeling coming back to us. There have been plenty of times in my life where I've heard black women downing black men for their issues, interracial dating, etc.
I think Fanatiq did good in his debate with addressing issues with her arguments.
Edit: So it's black men's fault that black women are in poverty even though black women are supposed to be more educated than black men. Us black men gotta pull ourselves up through any type of systemic issues and have to bear responsibility for the poverty of black women as well. Sounds fair.
True man, it pissing me off
It's the issue of "rules apply to you, but not to me" mentality some folks have.... and the concept of accountability.
And its that along with many other reasons why I gave up on these women a long time ago. Wheter its black women or not there is a common theme whether people like to hear it or not, accountablity & lack there of. Its always anyones fault but their own.
@@no_player_commentary so ur gay now?
I mean what I see described here is the issue that black women, despite being educated; have no idea how to pick their partners.
Why aren't they dating within their socioeconomicimal status? Isn't that what she said everyone does?
Probably shouldn't say black men can't take any acountability and then go on to put 100% of the blame on them for literally every problem
This girl is just Black Nick Fuentes, not sure why Destiny doesn't push back or see any correlation.
NF supported cancelling MrGirl, had it not been for that, he’d still probably be having chicken and waffles with the guy
He simps for all women
4Thot and Sharp were definitely not up to her standards in terms of debating tactics but when Fanatiq came in she couldn't handle him with very responsible debating and she interrupted like crazy. If you're going to be super demanding in what standards you want just to have a debate you should NOT complain when you get someone was patient as Fanatiq on board, I sorta wish Destiny called her out in that respect.
Aba being a troll is so freaking funny every time though xD
Aba didn't debate her though?
@@rorynolan2322 no, but he hopped in early on, heard her argument and immediately hit them with "don't fight a black woman, they're always right" then dipped lmao
Sharp asked her why she was boiling and bitter beneath her fake politeness and she completely shut down... then she's SCREAMING at Fanatiq at the end proves she rejected debate opponents she couldn't scream at.
Shes not only colorist but homophobic as well.
She definitely watches Cynthia G.
@@weego2585 yo! I was just about to say, she sounds exactly like that demon
@@weego2585 she a disciple
She probably wouldn't date a male who's bisexual
It’s women in general that benefit the most not men
If men stayed single they would make more money and progress the social ladder faster
Data does not support this. The most successful men are or have been married. Patriarchy is kinda designed that way.
A black single mom who is asking for more than she's worth hates Kevin Samuels? No way?! 😱
Amazing how she misunderstood “if your average, you should be okay with dating average men” as “date down”. Ive neeeeeeever seen this before.
Or another favorite. “Yeah I dont watch X creator, but heres abunch of prescriptions about what they talk about from 30 sec clips on tiktok.”
@@wintermintmojo2418 My man! You summarized the majority of women who venture over into the manosphere. They got it all figure out in 30 second clips. Once they hear single mothers are low value their brains and ears shut off while emotions takes a hold..
It’s crazy how having black men’s children brings your worth down, huh?
Unfortunately she comes from a hive mind and isn't the only black woman or black person who feels this way, based off of what she was saying in this video, you can totally see how primarily black women, could mock Kevin Samuels death.
1:30:00
she says "im a good person" like 5 times trying to convince herself in real time
That was the golden moment in the stream for me
I always find that people who need to declare to the world that they are a good person, usually turn out not to be a good person.
She has a deep rooted trauma and hatred towards her father and feels the compulsion to project those emotions onto society. Thats what I got from this convo
I think it’s to her baby’s father
@IAmNotPeaceful Only wish he had taken the child. Nobody deserves to be subjected to this.
@letsTrySelfImprovement It’s not anyone else’s fault you’re depressed
@letsTrySelfImprovement and your the kinda man that raypes children
I think she’s totally right
First she said:
Black men should be marrying black women to preserve the black race.
Then she said:
Black women should be dating other races more than they are now.
These two statements are contradictory.
No they aren't, she is just being both racist and sexist. She thinks black women can do what they want because they are owed it while black men must limit themselves because they are "lesser"
@@Blankace. I disagree. If she believes the "black race" must be preserved, then it is contradictory to her goal to have black women date out of their race while expecting black men to date black women. I don't disagree with your assessment of her attitude and racism, but the statements I referred to are clearly illogical.
I'm not a child don't treat me like one,
Proceeds to argue like a 16 year old Becky.
"It's just a statistical reality that black men = bad, black women = good"
"Okay, let's say that's true. What do we do with that info?"
"idk"
It’s still racist if a light skin black person refers to a dark skin black person as “burnt” right? Like, regardless if you disagree with them or not… right?
Also, she definitely didn’t look how I pictured her. Watching this live, I pictured her looking waaay different.
That not racist because if it is a black person who is light skin making a claim about someone’s shade it wouldn’t be racist because they aren’t referring to the entire black community, so that is colorism which is defined in the black as someone discriminating against the shade of another black person, rooted in racism but by definition isn’t racist because dark skin is a subsection of a race, not an actual race
@@HaitianKaizo are they not referring to every black person who is the same shade?
If a white person said it I would call that racist, I don't see how because someone is part black it isn't racist.
I haven’t seen her yet but I’m assuming she’s light skinned black hair curly all around in like somewhat of a frizzy Afro black horn rim glasses pink soft lips pretty brown eyes and not overweight
@@Drdirtydee Light skinned and long, straightish hair. No glasses. She’s a lot more light skinned than I pictured tho. Oh and yeah, she seems fairly thin.
It’s not racist but colorist.
Yes, black women are raised in the same difficult environment and households as black men, BUT there's a huge difference. The most important role model in any child's life is the same sex parent. Black girls are taught by those single mothers to be black women. Black boys raised without fathers are not taught to be black men.
I know he can’t talk about the black experience because he isn’t black, but I do wish, that just once, he would turn his cam off and put on a black persons voice and just pretend to be a black friend of destiny’s arguing on his behalf, it’s a fool proof way to win the argument and make some memes, I can’t see it going wrong
Fool PROOF!
The ChudLogic strategy
"I do wish Destiny does blackface for laughs and giggles, I can't see it going wrong'" - Andrew Hickman Moore
@@ucheobiekwe2287 we'll be going on an anti-racism arc for a while then.
@@ucheobiekwe2287 That's not what blackface is at all
She says she doesn’t hate black men. I’d sure hate to see what actual hate would look like from her then 😳
This one really hit home for me. As a black man who used to live in new york I've always had love for my black queens. I moved to a very white middle class town and the handful of black girls i did communicate with reminded me of this girl. I have no idea what makes these women hate black men but its so sad to see. I hope this is the last time i see her on this channel because honestly i can see her perception of black men is never going to change.
Go marry a white woman!
Bro what’s so funny is that these be the same women who falls in love with these certain black men. How many times you see these women going after felons, drug dealer, drop outs and etc. Or even when there married or in a relationship they go cheat with those types of guys I mention on top.
Stop calling them queens Jesus bro. Y’all are one of the reasons why they believe they are above reproach
LMFAO "queens" bruh,it fucking shows. No wonder she don't fuck with none of y'all
Because they still live in newyork.
Anti-misogyny arc = bringing the worst women possible on