Destiny Gets HEATED Against Redpill Conservative On Debate Panel
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Date: 29 May, 2022
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It’s crazy how he’s flipping between complaining that women don’t have passions but then switching to complaining that women have the wrong passions and careers and should just be baby makers
Redpill moment
My favorite was “women are biologically better at raising children” and “why aren’t men getting custody in the divorce”
@@TonyCox1351 The contradiction is crazy 😂😂
You passion shouldn't be your career it should be something that actually makes you happy outside of work. Majority of the time your job isn't going to be that enjoyable especially under capitalism.
@@Kim-Yo-jong Your career doesn’t HAVE to be your passion, but you at least have to make sure you like doing what you do, or at least having a lot of fun outside of work if you hate your job. Don’t understand the last part.
He claims women don’t even have hobbies?? How strange. It might be safe to assume this guy must not have much experience with women in general.
Not even to that point in the video, but I feel you have to be insane to have that sort of take! Don't care which side of the spectrum you are on.
Disavow his thoughts from the conservative side.
@@2007Shockwave idk, most in early 20s really don’t, they just browse social media, and want to party.
“Tell me you’ve never had any meaningful interactions with a women without telling me that”
@@bizzzzzzle literally lies lol
@@bizzzzzzle wtf nope
"We have a generation of kids raised by nannies".
Welcome to most of child reering in wealthy households throughout history.
exactly my thoughts lmao
@@panaccoman yes
@@panaccoman yes
That doesn't mean it is a good thing
@@barneystinson2781 cool. Wasn’t the point of OP’s comment
“They’re lonely, friendless losers grinding their 100th game of league”… ok bud, that was a bit fucking personal
He's just predicting his future after he's burned all his bridges lol.
@@nicholasjacobs6605 It already is his life.
@@nicholasjacobs6605 Torch everything!! 😈
@@nicholasjacobs6605 tbf Destiny is set for life so he can do that
@@pogo8050 facts, once you have that money to live the rest of your life you can choose what you wanna do
The funny thing about these guys is that they’ll swear up and down that being a housewife/mommy is biologically programmed into women, it’s innate and inevitable and just an instrinsic part of their psyche….. while simultaneously having to fight tooth and nail to convince women of this 😂 so how innate can it really be when you have to do the most to convince them of this?? If it’s so inherent to the very atoms of their DNA then why do you have to try to force them to be this way, shouldn’t they just automatically be this way and not need any convincing or coercion?
Being a man is In our DNA yet we have many deciding they are women...so
@@randybobandy9828 being a biological male is in your DNA, trans women are not claiming they are biologically female.
@@HP-sq2fp lol they sure are pretending
I think the idea is that "feminism ruined modern women".
I mean it's pretty simple. Women don't just have kids for fun, they are not stupid. The economy makes it hard/risky to have a kid and the isolation puts women away from other children of other friends/family/neighbors. I know it's kind of a meme that getting a child is contagious in a friend group and that's because people often think of children as a time/money burden first, and as a child second. And it's not just a woman thing, it's just more pronounced in women since they are the ones baring the children.
I like how everything this guy says continually proves further and further that he's just mad and spiteful that every woman thinks he's a loser. Especially when he started raging at the other guy even tho he pretends to not care
As much as I don't disagree with this assessment, why is 1 conservative invited to a debate with several liberals/progressives who were clearly hostile at the mere existence of the guy in the first place? As much as the guy has bad arguments and comes across as a dick, it's not like the people he's talking to are being nice people either. They are being very passive-aggressive and condescending stereotypes themselves.
@@Hooga89 The dude is making insane claims, anyone normal person would think they're being extremely patient with the dude.
@@hatdags102 He didn't though. He came out of the gate using standard conservative talking points, and everyone responded by being awkwardly silent in a very cringe-worthy way, and one guy started to pick a fight immediately by making it personal. The entire "debate" is pathetic all-around, and it isn't just coming from him alone.
@@Hooga89 the first thing he said in this clip was some dumb shit about Trans people should be allowed in sports because it'd be "funny". If he got butt hurt because people treated his edge lord teenager grade comment with the derision it deserved, that's on him.
@@Hooga89 if that makes you feel better fine
I'm all for holding women accountable for bad behavior and holding people up to standards, but this dude is wild. I think he's at a point where he doesnt feel women will appreciate his qualities and has created a "women are trash" armor to keep from being depressed.
it's severe copium.
Yup, man’s gone overboard and now looks like he’s just coping
It's not necessary true.
For example, age is extremely important.
I literally refuse to date.
For me, it's mostly stands from the expectations women have for men & female behavior.
Just look around. You can't expect anything from a woman.
Men on the other hand have to do everything.
I have to work like a horse supporting her & I have to entertain her.
And I know exactly what will happen, if I get married.
I will be working 12 hours a day to make money & massage her & cook & clean....
And she will be complaining that I don't love her & dont spend time with her....
So at some point she will start sleeping around, & one day she will take the kids & leave.
And she will accuse me of some sort of emotional/sexual abuse.
Dude, just look at the "good" married guys.
They look like the abused animals.
Except most of his statements were true. Take his experience or not, there is a reason that more and more men are going their own way or abandoning the west in search of good relationships. Easterners just don’t eat hot chip and lie 😂
@@bestdjaf7499 lmao, I'm just imagining all these created scenarios flash in your head to hold off the feeling of loneliness. "Sorry femoid, but I wont date you, because, after we get married, you will become a nagging leech who will cheat on me with some chad in 12 years, I'll just save me the trouble and be miserable right away, bitch". I really, really hope you're just young.
This guy never took care of a baby in his life if he handwaves it away like “take care of them then go have fun lol” like it’s not a 24/7 job?
It shouldn't even be a matter of taking care of a baby, I have never taken care of one in my 20 years and all you have to do is observe your parents taking care of younger siblings, aunts or uncles taking care of nephews, or just about anyone to reason yourself to the conclusion that being a good parent is more than just a full time job
Unless you're fine with them being raised by cocomelon on an iPad or something like that, and even then you still have shit to do
Babies literally spend every waking moment of their lives trying to kill themselves. It's like they fight tooth and nail to find some way to send themselves back to the oblivion from whence they came.
If you're not attentive to that kid all the fucking time, you're going to jail and will have one less child.
Sounds like he doesn't like women being able to take care of themselves, because that makes it difficult for him to get women to want to settle for him.
Hit the nail on the head
Imagine complaining about the selection on a dating app, claiming they're unfit and gross while he's unfit and smoking a cig in his own house as if that's not gross?
Projection?
You can both be right.
Yea…. They tend to be like that. Just assume every accusation is a confession of some sorts with those types
He looks like a stand in for The Mighty Mighty Bosstonnes
This is the typical right wing alpha-cel resume. They think women need to submit so much that guys like him can get married
@@legin777 how dare you disparage Ska like that
I don't know much about women but I can't imagine NO woman has any goals beyond having kids and stay home - we'd have higher birth rates if that's the case.
Exactly and there’s nothing with women not having their only goal to have children
they are mostly obedient people and we put them in charge so everything is f'd beyond help now haha
@@theloniuspunk383 who's obedient and in charge?
Not to mention both men and women are living in a time where wages are so low compared to the cost of living/rent, that having kids and buying a house is just not in the cards
@@theloniuspunk383 if you take a shower, get a haircut and go for women in your league, I promise you can lose your virginity.
This guy has clearly never been a father and I’d be surprised if he’s ever had a relationship; he has no clue how it works.
I hate it when ppl act like it's awesome to be a trad wife. My mom left her job to take care of me and my brother. It was a pretty shitty job but she really liked it. While I was growing up she would always tell me not to end up like her. To this day anytime I wanna stop studying I remind myself that if I don't study I'll end up having a miserable life. As far as I know a lot of girls have the same fear. If someone chooses to stay at home that's fine but saying women must stay at home is really shitty.
Yeah, I feel the same way. My father refused my mother to go to college or to even work after she worked her ass off helping to put him through college. Would have rather been a latchkey kid because both my parents were working, rather than be a latchkey kid because my mother had a nervous breakdown and left my overbearing father and became heavily involved in drugs.
All feminism is to me is women wanting to have equal opportunity to have self-determination and agency over their own futures, whether it's to be a stay-at-home wife and/or mother or a working woman or both. Everything else is pretty much dust.
@@laurendaryani4893 I have a completely different take on staying at home to raise your babies. I watched my mom take care of us and she loved every minute of it. Although before i was born she and my dad started a business and both of them would go clean houses together until they were able to hire people. But once me and my sister was born she chose to stay home and raise us while my father took care of the business. She never was misrible and to this day she says it was one of the single joys in her life. Working a 9-5 of climbing the corporate latter isnt always what its cracked up to be either and i feel like our culture tells us it is and it is what will make me happy. I did the 9-5 grind for 10 years, all i wanted at that point was to not have to work and settle down and have babies . I watched my mom work hard day in and out to provide the kind life she wanted. Honestly, I think what this comes down to is what you value in life. For my mom it was her kids, for me it will be the same. Tbh either option is fine, i just think it feels different for different people
@@Therhyrhy123 My mom was an educated house wife but started working after my dad died. We needed that from her because we literally got so broke that it was hard to get food on the table. She is a working woman but that doesn't mean her family doesn't come first. It's actually a necessity for some women to work. My sisters are well educated now and working a job. One of my sisters is married and running the house with her husband. My other sister is supporting my mom. And I'm just about to finish my degree and will work a job and maybe get married after a while. So yeah just because a woman is working doesnt mean her family doesn't come first. These red pill dudes are so one dimensional, they don't even consider statistics and how its so necessary for women to work in this present day and age. Unless your husband is rich it's really difficult to meet all expensive especially from where I'm from, the inflation is rising every single day.
My grandma was an ideal stay at home w 4 kids. She did everything including sewing their clothes. One day, when the kids were age ranges of 10 to 16, he literally drove away and left them with nothing. That’s back when there was no recourse and she put herself through college and got a good job and all her daughters and grand daughters never ended up like that.
Trad wives are at the mercy of their cheating husbands. Good luck with that, girl!
by his logic do women who are infertile just have no place in society, "well i'm working to become a pilot but i'm infertile, guess iv'e failed at being a women"
Crazy thing is: Infertility is equal between men and women.
I'm starting to think these men have these vile thoughts and ideas about women just to keep themselves out of a destructive depression.
True. This is a mindset I think one can only develop if you’re shut out of all meaningful social relations
It's easier to deal with a personal problem when you make it political/global. Now it's not YOUR wife cheating on YOU, it's all women being trash. It's not personal anymore, you're not alone. It's not so bad that you can't get laid, because women are "low value". A coping mechanism.
Imagine this guy accusing Destiny of having tired ideas lmao
Imagine thinking the average man lives in his basement and plays league.. lmao..
@@falseprophet1024 I believe he is referring to the avereage grinding poster.
that is itself a tired idea "muh 50s housewife" too much tv brain bro
@@onlyeveryone2253
I dont know what that means. Whats a grinding poster?
@@onlyeveryone2253
Also that wouldnt make sense in the context. He responded to a comment about women in general.
If he is talking about what you claim, then he basically said the average loser is a loser.. not sure what that adds to the convo..
This guy is pretty much my tired vision of Conservatives. People delusional enough to want the vision of America shown in 1950's cold war propaganda made reality.
imagine having politics so boring that even your unachievable utopia is a suburban culturally void hellscape. Conservatism really is a prison of the mind.
Yes! Most men would actually like that to be a reality, but the problem is they themselves aren't like the men in those commercials!
@@cwilliams6884 he is right. Right in the trash.
@@CaliMex96 get ready for a delusional answer
Look at Japan, China, south Korea. "Left over" women. The future of the US.
I’ve never heard a more detached childless statement than “You people think raising a child is a chore” 😂
Yeah raising kids is about 90% chores
@@TonyCox1351 exactly, anyone who says it’s anything less than that obviously doesn’t have kids or are neglectful af lol
@@willieboip when the dude said that women have it easy staying home and raising kids I almost fell over. Watching my two boys for 8 hours is 100% more draining than working my office job of 8 hours
Take a shit Is a chore.
@@randybobandy9828 I take fiber supplements in the morning before my coffee, I definitely wouldn’t use the word chore for that task
The disconnect is just mind numbing with these guys.
"If I could just stay home, cook, clean, and raise kids, that sounds great."
"You've never had anything in your life that you wanted to accomplish?"
"Well of course I do, but they don't. Women don't even have hobbies."
"If I could just stay home, cook, clean, and raise kids, that sounds great." whats wrong with someone saying this? Do you realize most of the world is happy with this, and is how the world has survived up to this point? or do you think we made it through working corporate jobs and ignoring raising children and instilling home values correctly?
Im literally working my a** off, so I can retire and stay home, cook, clean, and raise kids, because that sounds great.
@@mickeybeavison1053 yeah, there's absolutely 0 issue with wanting that. The issue is the removal of options for people that don't.
"If could just stay home ..." if you have some kind of income this could be an option. Women dont have to be the default homemaker
Also, all women dont desire attention from men. Does he not know about lesbians..?
@@mclazerz8931 obviously that's just societal corruption. Lesbians don't actually exist, they're just pretending because society told them men are bad.
"I care so little about women, that Ill come onto a panel to say how trash they are and how sigma I am" -this guy
I actually never thought people like this existed, I watched some of this live and holy hell I genuinely felt kinda awful, seeing someone so hateful towards my own gender feels weird haha.
Where there are woman incels, there are Male incels.
Maybe if your gender wasn't so promiscuous and so quick to open your legs to any guy online and to obsess over physical pleasure then we wouldn't hate you people. Some introspection would be valid
Well played
As a gay guy I really wish orientation could be chosen or all people were bisexual or something, because then those misogynistic idiots could start trying to f**k and date each other and other men and encounter the same shit show with slight differences on the other side of the fence, and finally realize that it's not about women. That it's them being miserable f**ks who are afraid of everyone and are afraid of intimacy, so they jump on gender supremacy bandwagon for control and comfort.
Anyone have the link to the full vod?
For the life of me I can't figure out why our guy here is having trouble finding a woman
It's because all women are just too lousy for him, definitely not that they find anything about him unattractive
🤣
You're spanning the cart before the horse.
Lmaooooo 😂😂😂
I always see people like these and am taken aback that they aren't parody.
Spending the majority of your life alone, ridded with rejection, lack of self-awareness, and an inability to change will do that to you
@@DurpenHeimer right. I'm alone bc it's my choice and being around people make me pretty anxious and drained. I got dilemmas and problems I feel comfortable with solving with less noise and interference
@@DurpenHeimer Speaking from experience?
If you wanted him to be a working productive member of society you should have got him married in his early 20's.
@@Shad0wack What if he does? Are we not able to recognize our flaws and work towards improving them without someone like you belittling it?
I really appreciate this video. I need to be reminded that as unhinged the left is sometimes, some conservatives are really off the rocks of reality.
they're the scum of the earth.
Those on the far left spectrum and far right are just mirror opposites of each other. They act and react to one another's craziest positions on things, and then just simmer within their echo chambers.
When they need to interact with someone outside their chamber, the crazier positions start to fall in a flurry of "but but...what I meant was"
I mean ya he's a weirdo but the fringe left is far more prevalent.
At least the left's unhinged ideas are internally consistent most of the time. This guy can't even put together a consistent view on gender roles.
@@randybobandy9828 More than half of republicans are into qanon, great replacement and other conspiracies. Your numbers are way off my dude.
I love how these two dudes trashing eachother looks look EXACTLY ALIKE lol
It really is uncanny
I found it so funny. Like you want them to look like stereotypical conservative or liberal but they look exactly alike. You could not tell which is which.
The real question is, are these incel men the types of husbands women want? He sounded angry and insane…
If this was 1960 he would have a wife and feel much more secure and confident as a man. Today’s modern society crushes guys like him and turn them into incels. If it was 1960 he would Be a different man
@@dickdrapper5491 but isn’t it incel logic that men don’t need women
@@dickdrapper5491 Crushes them how?
@@dickdrapper5491 if it was 1960, his wife and children would be afraid of him.
@@dickdrapper5491 in the 60´s he would have a low quality woman with no options.
It's funny this sounds like a guy that doesn't actually know any women. I wonder how he knows the goals and lives of so many so in depth.
I like how this guy was talking about child raising to Destiny who is a father.
"How hard can it be for a single dad?"
Destiny: And I took that personally.
I mean, it's not destiny that raises his kid, it's his ex, but I'm sure he's still aware of the difficulty involved in that.
Having a son doesn't mean you are a father.
Destiny is by no means a father to nobody.
Calling destiny a father is a stretch
Destiny only sees his child every couple of months
Lol the way destiny describes raising children explains why he’s in the situation that he currently in. Bro isn’t with his baby momma and sees his child every few months.
Hearing the way he talked about raising children was kinda sad. It’s definitely not easy, but cmon
Why does every millennial boomer complain about "dating nowadays" it drives me fucking crazy. The only thing that has changed is access, dating has literally always sucked and I hate seeing my peers go down this get off my lawn trajectory
100% Facts.
online dating has absolutely changed the game
First time in human history males have to have an actual personality and redeeming qualities. Women can own property. Bank accounts. They don't need to be married to be successful and financially independent. They're starting to choose partners based on qualities other than "can they provide financially because I can't do that for myself".
@@bearj.4363 noooo now I can't trap a woman into staying with me 😭😭😭
@@demodiums7216 in what way besides access, as I said
Sometimes I just want a tragic villain backstory movie about these guys to understand how and why they end up like this
He should have said that he don't talk to women at all and he listened on podcasts that putting them down is the way to have sex but he fails greatly at it sir go outside
They have little to no experience with women in any form. So they have preconceived notions about women. What redpill has done is just apply false confirmations to their already absurd preconceived notions … Redpill is disguised with the costume of “male improvement” but nothing profound is ever said. You’re told from damn near elementary school to stay in shape , work hard , etc etc … I’m sure all these men have heard it in their younger years at least once. …
i kind of wanted to hear the question: why not let women choose the way they want to live?
Because women dont know what they want, and you're a gay simp baby if you disagree with this position.
Too far.
a girl using tinder as a funnel to their only fans.. thats the grindset right there.
This dude is absolutely insane.
He unironically has undiagnosed mental illnesses. He’s a lolcow even to people on the right for a reason.
@@panaccoman clearly meant the red pill guy
that's not what that word means he's obviously just at his wits end with low quality females and bad culture, it's true all you can do is laugh and hasten the collapse
Damn, you attracted the weirdos with that comment.
@@sargeteg5927 it's called being free you should try it (SIKE)
I can't lie, hearing that girl's soul just die over the transwomen in sports had me rolling.
“Housewives are free to do what they want.” This dude wants to pretend the 1950’s didn’t exist. Based.
Destiny hit on a very fair point about women given a choice, a lot of men are angry that women are choosing not to be their wives. Being a wife just means you have a lot of grunt work "womens work" to do that men don't appreciate. It's weird how obsessed men are with women and what women do, while also having a disdain for women.
Hilarious that he thinks that just because a woman works, it means that her children are being raised by a nanny. *eye roll* I have so many friends with kids where both parents work, and their children are NOT raised by nannies. They go to preschool and get their socialization, and they spend time with grandma and grandpa. And the parents are not absent - they are very obviously present in their children’s lives, help them with homework, etc… just because you work doesn’t mean you don’t have any time for your kids.
Hard core agree with this. it can certainly be a privilege but utilizing grandparents, preschool, nannies can be a great way to "have it all". Both parents can work and have successful careers (maybe not THE most demanding careers) and still have lots of quality time with their kids.
And if either parent wants to do the stay-at-home parent lifestyle (probably in the early years before kids are in school) they can empower themselves beforehand with solid education and work experience so that jumping back into the work force later is not a huge hurdle
I really wonder what world this guy lives in that he thinks everyone is raised by nannies, like wtf? Does he come from a wealthy area or something? I grew up in a super poor area where everyone's parents either both worked or they had a single parent household where the parent worked multiple jobs, and the thought of ANYONE having a nanny was laughable, most people couldn't even afford daycare. Older siblings or friends' older kids watched little ones, or they stayed with family or close neighbors/friends. Worst case kids were left alone. I was left alone to care for my younger siblings starting around age 7.
This guy has so many wildly disconnected ideas about how people and society functions, I have to wonder if he ever actually leaves his house or talks to real people.
"cooking and cleaning takes what, 2 or 3 hours?"
> $20 banana moment
Well it depends on the size of the house or apartment. Me microwaving a frozen meal doesn't take long at all ;) lol
@@SoldierGeneral64 gotta factor in grocery shopping time too thoo
@@adinakruijssen3056 When I went shopping I got everything I need for like a month or month in a half. Single bachelor lifestyle means you can be pretty lazy, but sure wasn't eating healthy. Can you say eating peanut butter out of a jar. If I didn't have to eat food that would be nice.
@@SoldierGeneral64 well yeah, single bachelor life. Not cooking meals for a growing family. But yeah I get u, I was like that in college
@@adinakruijssen3056 honestly when you look up the stats for stuff like child raising the amount of hours is less than you would expect and it is surprisingly top heavy. Most of the hours are early on then decrease over time.
Guy in the video is insane though. The stats show more women than men aren't looking for a significant other so by his logic women are "on that grindset" lol
This man is actually maidenless
Even as a childfree woman, I know that being a stay at home mother is the most hardest job to do because it's a 24/7 thing, non-stop. When she has kids, her whole life changes 110%. Yes, dads should be more into the kids' lives because of the male role models they need. For the leopard print guy in the middle, I feel terrible if he's married or has kids cause all he's saying is nonsense.
Stay at home mother isn't even necessarily difficult in a vacuum. It's men that undervalue it's difficulty that don't pay enough attention to the kids and don't split enough house responsibilities that make it so much damn harder than it has to be. I think it has been much easier for my mother to be stay at home since my dad was always around and hung out with the family, cooked and did other shit in the house
Edit: I meant extremely difficult, not that it isn't difficult at all
im almost inclined to become a single raising dad just to prove you wrong lmao.
@mcdick prove me wrong? How? My brother is a single dad raising his son and now he wondered how our mom raised 4 of us while working
@@debbieakabubbles by doing it ezpz.
@mcdick omg 🤦♀️ That is so selfish. Yet they say I'm selfish for saving the environment, you're just a donkey for polluting it and for what? 🤦♀️🤦♀️
-Men want women who have passions and goals yet want women to stay at home to raise kids because they’re biologically wired to do so
-Women who have a job/career should stay at home once they have kids. Then when kids get older, they can resume whatever they had going on. Do men not realize how extremely difficult it is to get back into the workforce once you’ve been away for years?? You’re older, have a huge gap on your resume, skills are not up to date, culture in the workplace has vastly changed, etc. It’s so darn difficult
- Women that have jobs should contribute 50/50 financially, otherwise they’re gold diggers and only see a man as an atm machine. Yet red pill men do 0% of the house chores. In essence, the woman works 2 jobs yet she still needs to maintain her femininity, be agreeable and allow the man to make all the decisions. Yeah, right…
- Women are naturally better at raising kids yet men complain how the court system usually doesn’t grant them custody in case of divorce. Hmm…wonder why…
-Men don’t want to get married (ie sign a contract that only benefits one side) yet they want a wife and kids. So if they don’t get married but have kids, they will be born out of wedlock, thus creating single mothers (red pill men supposedly despise single mothers)
-Men claim to be happy once they’re old and still single but make fun of older women who supposedly will end up alone with a bunch of cats. Pot calling the kettle black
The contradictions are unreal. Men should just marry other men at this point
Oh my God he used "grindset" unironically....
_”Grindset”_ aka nonsensical cope to justify why they are un-social weirdos.
Destiny says "Cope" unironically all the time, which is equally as cringeworthy and you don't say anything about it, lmao. Keep up the bias
*Grind set music intensifies*
I forget what the word is, but in Japan they have these (typically guys i think) people who will not leave their homes for a decade at a time and sometimes even longer. They usually have jobs they can do from home and they get shit delivered to them. These people are probably gods to those dumbfuck "grindset" idiots.
@@weliveinasusciety1279 True.
I've known 3 "Tradcon" wives who weren't like far right or right wing or married to right wing men at all. They landed rich husbands with power careers who insisted they would take care of them but said the kids should have a mom at home and they'll bring home the bread.
All their lives turned out the same. They hit 50, their husband cheated on them with somebody hotter and younger, divorced them and they found themselves at age 50 with no skills, no job history, no education and no prospects. At least they got about 50k a year in alimony.
They got their freedom from slavery GIGACHAD
Sounds worth it. They got to live with a high value man throughout the most important years of their life. It’s not like they won’t be able to find a man to replace their husband, especially if they are hot
Wow. Just...WOW. That guy was actually fucking nuts. The consistency of him contradicting himself was insane.
sad to see beardson still lives in the house with the lead paint
I love you hunter
I remember you from some tima ago, were you not a very right wing guy?
@@Chale1288 He was right-wing. Was.
@@jettdyer7688 He WAS a grifter and STILL is.
@@666MaRius9991 Someone who changes their opinion as they mature doesn't make them a grifter.
This guy has an interesting debate strategy... You make yourself immune to ever being strawmanned when you adopt all the worst arguments that would've been strawmen as your actual positions...
Sith do that to. I believe conflict is natural and the basis of The Force.
Damn yo who broke this dudes heart
Probably cuz the woman wasn’t just a mindless doll
This guy is literally the parody version of a conservative that lefty writers put in movies and TV shows to dunk on. Major Braincels vibes!
Iam a conservative in many areas, but i dont wanne have anything to do with that guy.
@@henriklarssen1331 Well God bless you for that lol
The dude has a severe case of being terminally online. Major Incel „Niceguy“ vibes
Edgelord reddit
That guy is just a regular American conservative inner monologue.
The problem is that generation over generation Americans have been bombarded with propaganda. So the regular conservative it's the products of this.
You guys are not free of thoughts as you think you are. You have been program since before and after civil war. Basically most conservative positions can be track to Elites greed, Power hungry, mysoginia, racism and revenge(civil war).
Inmigración: You can say whatever you want to back you position, but deep down or not so deep it's because they are browns.
Assault weapons: A mix of Greedy Elites (lobbying), Power hungry, mysoginistic and male insecurities and the revenge against the government (The old wound of civil war).
Abortion and woman bashing: mysoginistic control, male insecurities, power hungry.
Welfare/free healthcare/ raise minimum wage opposition, : Lazy brown and black people getting "freebies" (racism). Against Elites interests.
Police misconduct/ Abuse: Black and brown control old/new slavery. Power hungry, mysoginistic insecurities, Elite culture (do not question the authority of who is above you)
Hate of LGBT: Male insecurities ( closeted or fear of feeling attraction to dress up queers), Racism, hate everyone different. Power hungry of control and make everything to be as your self image.
I can agree that as a woman I am glad I do not have to work. I loved school, loved learning got my CPA, started working and was absolutely miserable in corporate America. Now I am a stay at home wife that does some freelance writing and keeps my house in order. The big difference is being told I HAVE to stay at home vs being given both options and being allowed to choose what suits me. While I think there is a huge narrative from the left that girls have to go and get your bag which I struggled when I realized that is not what I wanted and I felt shame that I did not want a career job. We should have the clear pros and cons of both paths presented and be free make our life decisions accordingly. No way would I want to be a stay at home wife to someone who thinks women have no hobbies, are trash, and seems to just view women as shells of human beings. But for your best friend who sees you as a whole human, appreciates your mind, and supports you in any passions, I’m so happy to support in his growth.
seems like u found a good man who can support you. I think most men who make good money would want a housewife rather than a career women
@@dante19890 Men who make good money want a different woman twice a week.
@@sarahrobertson634 different side chick yes but they still want a main girl
@@dante19890 They're not going to get either one from me. If other weak minded females give them that, those dumb girls will see the error of their ways soon enough.
@@dante19890 so they’re slaves to their desires with 0 self control and discipline and have disgusting morals?
The more he talks, the more you can tell that he doesn't have any sort of meaningful relationship with a woman and that he's not a parent/doesn't have friends who are parents
I'd consider myself politically homeless but I find destiny to be reasonable and a good faith actor despite our disagreements. Keep up the good work.
If you feel politically homeless online, it's a good sign. Most people online are nuts.
I'm a hard line libertarian Marxist but I still appreciate Destiny's desire to research issues to form his opinions on them, rather than just following the tides of everyone around him.
@@Reboobed NICE MEME AHAHAHAHA
@@Reboobed
- hardline libertarian Marxist
- appreciates people researching and not just following others
My irony meter just exploded
It helps when Destiny is one of the few people who will just side with the best arguement for a given topic, he isn't married to any positions, and combine that with not being a moron.
Red pill dude is the definition of unhinged and insecure. That energy is radiating heavy asf
Also not to state the obvious but billions of people (women) having generally more inherent features which promote raising children doesn’t mean we randomly say that’s what they all should do full time as a stay at home mom and force it on them. There are individual genetic traits as well as subtle social differences which would make other options better for them at an individual level.
"Red pill dude is the definition of unhinged and insecure."
I left a relationship with a man who adopted the redpill mindset and spouted things like this guy (and much worse). It was the straw that broke the camel's back. I don't think it was a coincidence that he had always been insecure and unhinged even prior to believing in these things.
@@AngryReptileKeeper good for you :)
@@AngryReptileKeeper good for you 👍
Conservative here, I agree with everything you've said there. I just find it weird the "red pill dude" got pushback for saying that women are better at raising kids/more empathetic. That doesnt mean they should HAVE TO or should be pressured into that role, lets not deny as a general rule they do have a certain biological role that makes them better at it
He's so vitriolic oml, can we go back to the ironic misogyny again lmao
This dude is a content mine. Keep him around lol
He’s being replaced
@@ForkliftChannel Greatly
A below average intelligence man with lacking social experiences tries to talk about social and parental matters. No wonder Destiny and others owned him in the calmest and chill way possible.
Destiny didn’t own him In the raising children discussion. It was actually kinda sad and telling to hear destiny’s perspective, considering he only sees his kid every few months.
@@trondadon2527 you mean now right? You do realize when destiny was with his ex and the kid was young he was probably quite helpful with everything but now that they have broken up and the kid is older it can be a different deal. Plus at least I can appreciate destiny not advocating for his life style while red pillers act like that’s the only way to live.
It’s like these red pill ppl are going through the tough realizations of being in your twenties and they are filming the whole internal dialogue. This is called making a fool of one’s self.
I seriously want to believe this guy is a troll cause he's every red pill stereotype imaginable. He's like a cartoon character
I'm assuming he's playing a character.
its easy to say he's trolling but there are entire movements of people that think just like this. Sometimes they're just exposing themselves
I think he is definitely not trolling I think I think he might be lying to himself.
Does this man know any women? There are literally whole stores to women's hobbies, like Hobby Lobby. Plus women play piano, paint, write, dance, garden, historically, are those not hobbies.
What does this guy think, that all she does all day is watch kids? There is lots of free time in being a mom, that is why so many women start businesses from home, like Mary Kay and Stampin' Up. Raising kids is hard, I have four, it is rewarding though.
Women do need time away from the kids occasionally as well, otherwise, we would go bonkers.
Found this guy out in the weeds. This has to be what the fringe conservatives look like. This dude hasn't touched grass in a long time
he's nick fuentes's second in command.
He's too busy being on his Sigma grind. you just wouldn't understand because you're a BEEYTAAA
well, he did say he was mowing his lawn this morning....
@@wamatt2476 and that lawn mowing really frazzled him pre-debate too
as some one who is pretty conservative please don't call this guy conservative he is just a woman hating loser
I've literally never met a woman
You've met destiny
Based and motherless.
He’s not red pill he’s an incel, the “not all men” to wether men do things to attract women gave it away
He says all women are just seeking attention from men, yet men are not on their grindset in order to find women. I can say the pick up artist culture for men is much larger than it is for women. Men are seen as high value when a they have a harem of women. Women are whores if they talk to more than one man at a time. If a woman is a virgin she has great values and honors her body. If a man is a virgin he is a beta. So how are men not tieing their value to how many women they get.
He's not in incel either he's Black Pilled.
It's "not all men" until he implies that men are incapable of empathy. 🤣
Stop making the word "Incel" meaningless, Incel means someone is Involuntarily Celibate, being a misogynist doesn't mean someone is an incel.
@@veritasabsoluta4285 Thank you, the whole ass term for them is Black Pill and people still go off on that feminist slander on Incels when they're just people that either cannot or unable to have sex. Since people forget there an amount of women that flag as Incel.
As a dude who would love to stay home and take care of my son. I don't think it's that crazy. I know a couple guys who got laid off during COVID and stayed that way. After the shock of it, it's working pretty well for them.
Yeah, right! I bet at least one of them will break up! 100%! I have seen this a couple of times, never works out!
@@panaccoman
I was waiting for this comment lol. And I was not disappointed 😂
Once you don't *have* to work for a while it's hard to get yourself to go back to.
@@anti-emo4721 lies
Yeah, there are people who are genuinely happy being house-parents. And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that.
for some context, beardson is the guy that couldnt let louis theroux ask a few low ball questions without throwing a tantrum
link? I love Louis!
17:00 If anyone pulled that tone in a conversation with me, I'd just leave. These types of people are not worth engaging with.
He’s so brittle 😂
Malding
This guy is the final form of “down bad”
Bro to say that men dont seek validation from women today is crazy especially since we had the no bitches meme like 3 weeks ago
The ending part was great. They both sigh and laugh condescendingly and say Destiny is wrong, then Destiny comes back and confidently explains that he’s in fact not wrong, and then… silence. This is honestly one of the reasons I’m a fan. Because I do this too. I don’t talk out of my ass, if I don’t know something, or I’m not confident in my knowledge of it enough to state it, I won’t. So when I *do* state something, I know I can confidently defend it if challenged.
"we need more trans men in sports"
"oh well that's very progressive of you"
"yeah it's hillarious watching women get beat at their own sport by men"
*awkward silence*
"errr.......ok"
DEAD!
this guy is chronically online. he just doesn’t understand or experience the social landscape in real life.
The fact men work themselves into the ground for their family is the sacrifice men make when it comes to careers
lol so what about single guys? what sacrifice do they make?
But men shouldn’t have to do that. Workers shouldn’t be forced to ‘kill themselves’ for their jobs.
Workplaces and Occupations should be better for men and women.
Better pay, better working conditions, strong non corrupt union should all be required.
If you wanna go further left like I do, that can be up for debate
@@deeepdale they’re slaves to the dollar. People live to work not work to survive.
And? At least the guy has a job and work experience. The woman in this traditional gender roles scenario has nothing. So god forbid the guy cheats and the 50yo mom with no work experience or studies has to fend for herself.
@@user-ze1qk9tg0k ...cool. so what about single guys who don't have to support their family? my question still stands even if they never said anything about it lol.
"you YOU WANNA MAKE THIS PERSONAL I CAN MAKE THIS REALLY FUCKING PERSONAL!!!!!"
man this dude is utterly sneeding.
I'm clicking away from this because of people who aren't adult enough not to talk over each other to shut the other guy up.
The failure in all of these people is they see it as man vs. woman, not man and woman working together with shared goals and values.
man and women were never meant to be competitors. Its a union. Men compete with other men and women compete with other women.
Wtf this dude legit wants a woman with no goals? Mac Dre said it best in early retirement, "im tryin to find chicks that know the requirements
and work towords a pimps early retirement." But you know, by doing their own thing and not just being a burden. Like if your only skill sets are being a home maker, I'm sorry we ain't gonna make it.
I am a mother of 4. I love my children to end of the world. I will be the first to agree that childrearing is one of the dullest, monotonous jobs ever, broken up by rare wonderful moments if happiness. Is it worth it? Yes. Is it less boring? No. My kids are almost grown and I used to work part time just to get out of the house. For my sanity. And honestly, my grandmother, who was a 50s housewife, she worked outside the home. I was always surrounded by women and men who worked. Ive never understood households that could have a parent that didnt have to work at all
My stepma got a part time job too because she got so depressed that all she had to talk to was a teenager and a baby.
It only "works" if the husband is pulling 500k plus. And usually that probably ends in divorce because the husband is banging the secretary, then the only way out for the wife is taking half his shit because she's been a housewife for 20 years. Then you end up with some smug hateful dipshit like throwup shirt guy.
I agree with this guys take on women being more biologically designed for childcare however the awesome part of being human is that we are the only species able to go against biology with any success and there's nothing wrong with embracing that.
Excrpt if you go against biology on a large scale there are negative externalities like women not going into STEM as often. This has been well documented where more egalitarian nations see women deferring to traditional gender norms in terms of education and jobs acquired.
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I doubt that. That study have been under a lot of scrutiny.
@@blindeagleace3629 You cant live your life only believing in studies, son, some day you're gonna have to actually go out in the real world and yknow, experience it for yourself.
@@sukamedik9739 such as?
@@iwannabethekid34xc soooo instead of structured data u want anecdotal evidence only gotten by the ppl u meet. That strays away from the scientific method of proof which is why historically anecdotal evidence has been based off of emotion and is not necessarily fact I.E just because u experience it that doesn’t make it the norm
Some men hate women, but are still attracted to them.
It’s that simple. Honestly, that’s basically the summary of the whole video/ this guys way of thinking.
Oh my god.. "maybe there are men who want to raise children but that's an anomaly"
Do they really think it has any biological basis??
My dude, it's fucking comfortable and easy to delegate the woman. Plain and simple.
Men when they're sick can't even handle to be at home for three days in a row, but somehow the woman needs to spend her entire life like that.
PSA: Wolfenstein - New Order is free on Epic Games Store this week
Good game. It's sequel is absolute trash though.
Beardson is angry at women cause his wife left his sad depressed ass for another guy. She got tired of hearing his cringe inducing manlett monologues. His legacy is being Nick Fuentes doormat and unironically claiming 2b is his waifu. If you want to feel better about your life just go watch a clip of Beardson spewing some new edgy mega cope as the America Felted ship sinks ever faster into oblivion.
lol. Your woman will eventually find a reason to leave you too. It's a matter of when, not if. Doesn't matter if your literally Superman, that's what western women are. Not of this shit affects me because monk mode is literally Zen on Earth.
History doesn't agree with me
Beardson: why are we doing history revisionism guys? Doy duh doy
Also this guy has almost an incel level of understanding of how parenting and relationships work.
When a guy says women don't have hobbies it's because they don't care about the things women find interesting. A lot of women I know are really into gardening and crochet, for example. But because it's not videogames men don't see it as worthwhile
What drives men to be successful is to provide a good living for his family. That’s how it’s been for generations
You said something very obvious, where was it suggested that men typically want to be successful for other reasons?
Why can't a woman be equivalent but not identical to men? Why can't we grant that women (who perpetuate the species) may have a propensity to be more empathetic? That doesn't exclude women from careers in any way. In fact, It would make them highly valued in some professions.
What the fuck is wrong with saying there are differences? Differences obviously dont imply inequality.
2x²-x-15=0 and √9 are equal but not identical.
This movement of "compelled homogeneity" is bizarre and will lead to more inequality.
Because people don't think in that advanced math. It's Binary to them, yes and no's, fair and unfair. It's stupid because people end up hurting themselves trying to be "well rounded" and that's not how people live. People are better at finding their niche and sharpening it. "Why should fish climb trees when a bear can still get them?"
From my perspective as a woman, I have a bit of internalised bitterness towards men in some aspects (though I prefer to think I do my best to seperate my perspectives as ultimately from experiences so, therefore, biased). I interpreted these conflict is about gender expectation and who's more rather get marginalised because of it, from my experience, men just looks had it more easier that they don't have the heavy burden to remind themselves what their gender when taking major decisions in life. There's a constant reminder for me I'm a woman first before considering what to do with my life. How much should I present so couldn't get judged by others especially other women. I see people just casually stereotype women to be generally tone-deaf and emotional so it's easier to not take us seriously compared to you guys. And after all that I see a lot of men mock or tease women, our femininity, for being too sensitive and open with their emotions when our agreed gender expections encouraged that to let it happen, like that negative aspect of women stereotypes didn't build up by keeping women to be focused to be baby carriers/takers in a more conservative society. Finally, have an audacity to have harsh very opinions on women who chose to be sex workers because they tend to get criticised more in other jobs when there's more value in them being a housewife and raise kids.
@@2kiroo Most guys are bitter when it comes to women because y'all can damn near get away with murder. People help y'all without asking for anything in return. Which is something men overall don't experience. A lot of men see women living on easy mode due to this new sex worker uptick which is ironic imo. Due to if men told you to do such you wouldn't do it. Yet now sex work is so "lame" even some of the low effort stuff is successful enough to cover them while they also do a normal job. That's due to the conditioning boys and men have when they barely interacted with women. They see a crumb of skin and or parasocial attention they act like fools. Also there's the whole thing that men "need" to be bread winners. Ignoring the economy is so broken because it's still working off of the fact not everybody can work. Yet inflation makes it everybody needs to. This also causes bitterness between the sexes.
This guy is really bad at pretending to not be upset.
"We have an entire generation raised by nannies now."
Rousseau in the 18th Century had a big part of his educational treatise dedicated to how mothers should actually breastfeed their kids because it was common to have wet nurses. People with the opportunity to do so will often fob off responsibility, this is nothing new.
It doesn't make it right though. Poor people (the vast majority in the 18th century) did not have wet nurses
@@barneystinson2781 Well poor women today don't have nannies, either.
My point is just women today are not degenerate or selfish . People of any time will fuck off and do their own thing if they can.
If anyone wants a laugh, Louis Theroux did a documentary on far-right internet clowns and this guy made an absolute ass out of himself
holy crap that opening was spot on. that exact description was me 3 years ago I'm glad things changed, but definitely scary to think I could be stuck in such a morphed view of the world like this dude destiny was talking to
So nobody pushed back on the stereotype that black fathers are non existent? Tells me everything I need to know about this panel
I mean you can assume that. At the same time, if they’d stopped to address every stupid thing this guy said they’d have been there all day. The weirdo’s tangents were tangents of tangents of tangents.
vast majority are non existent. just because it offends you doesnt mean its not true.
@@beane6426 majority are non existent.
@@beane6426 they literally was on his ass about everything else that he said. The truth is this stereotype is believed by most people that’s why there’s no pushback on it.
@@cliftongibson9456 I’m pretty sure I’ve heard at least Destiny (I don’t recognize any of the other people on the panel) mention in a prior debate that most Black fathers aren’t absent parents.
Destiny described beardson to a T with the "average man has no friends or partner" take, wonder if he even knew it lmao
He has friends, Nick Fuentes and Baked Alaska.
I think the lynchpin in this convo is centered around relationships that have this inherent "sucky-ness" to them. If a woman is happy with her husband working then, it all works out.
I think the best prescription is taking a self-actualizing trip to ask yourself (men and women) what kinds of sacrifices you would be willing to make for your relationship to work. Because you will have to make SOME sacrifices. You may not know when you will, but they will come.
I agree. People should pursue a relationship where they are happy and fullfilled. If a woman wants to be a stay at home mom, power to her. I just dont think all women should be put in a position where theyre forced to live to please a man that can treat them like shit. I also think that a man should be seen to women as more than a breadwinner. If he wants a woman that works or even makes more than him he shouldnt be looked down on.
This is very true, the suck isn't fun. Even the whole ideal of sacrifices it makes you think WHOM are these for? Since I realized myself that I love my space and privacy. Due to kinda shitty earlier years I don't think I can do right by a partner in a relationship setting. Then I realized what the asexual spectrum was and then it made sense for me.
I do feel sorry for people that feel like they're being used in a relationship. Yet it can all be solved by saying something before shit hits the fan.
Women get to have unlimited access to sex and validation and men get to have benefits and establish relationships so I pretty much see it as equal and not worth reaching equality for.
@@JoeMama-gi1so True women have easier access to sex, but that means nothing if they want monogamy. Plus they are looked down on when they use that easy access to sex. I think men have power over issuing marriage, while relationships are more of a woman's decision. If a guy wants to be a fuckboi ofc he can keep all the girls he is talking to as a booty call, but most of the time women establish exclusivity when first dating.
@@brandonwhite562 Men don't have easy access to sex or relationships for relationships but I want either of those things could I just make the climate that doesn't mean much either?
OMG I hate that I'm a conservative and agreeing with the liberals here.
Redpillers: "Women just wear these clothes and put on make-up to attract other men. Saying they do it for themselves is bullshit. Evolutionary biology baby."
Also Redpillers: "Men buy sports cars and go to the gym and put on nice clothes for themselves, not cuz they're trying to attract women."
He's basically doing the whole "boss bitch" thing, but for men.
It's, both men AND women are "biologically programmed" to raise children. Just because women have certain necessary appendages doesn't make a man exempt. And it's only been around 200 or so years that ONLY women were expected to raise children on their own. Prior to that, for pretty much all of human history globally, villages raised children. In the 19th century a single-parent income was sufficient to raise a nuclear family unit, and generally men preferred to provide income while women preferred to stay home, so the guy (sorry don't know his name) is right, it's pretty much cultural.
Also, I like how he said "cook and clean 2-3 hours a day and then, like, raise the kids" as though child-raising was easier than cooking or cleaning and took like, just a few minutes of your day. Ignorance is bliss, my bro. And Destiny is right. Raising kids is great, but it's 20% pain, 70% routine and maybe 10% joy (but that 10% is worth the other 90%).
In the very least man, can you stop with all the fucking strawman arguments and false dichotomies? Jesus Christ, this was barely a "debate".
I can tell that women reject this guy and he is resentful. It's not women's fault that he isn't attractive.
The idea that he’s the common denominator of his own misery has completely eluded him.
The one area in that destiny really falls short is his knowledge about young people, which I think is where all of his misconceptions about young people come from. I am in my early twenties and the reality for young adults is that almost every single person has at least a tinder and a bumble, young adults do form many relationships naturally but also utilize dating apps. It's odd to see Destiny say such a dog shit take like "only low-end women/men use dating apps". For older people, this is definitely true, but it's not true across the board for people. I think this really exemplifies Destiny's insane disconnect from young adults once again.
Destiny was saying that an individual looking for a relationship through an app that's exclusively about casual sex is going to fail.
I think he meant men who are socially awkward. Plus there is a stat that says that percentage of male and female accounts on Tindr there is kind of off. Only 21% are women and It's decreasing each year. It seems that less and less women are into online dating.
I get why you were saying but men being away from their kids is a problem. My dad was a truck driver for a living and in his later years he regrets it cause he felt as though our relationship was jeopardized because he didn’t have the time. He wanted to be around his sons but he didn’t have as much as of a fighting chance even when my mom was going through a whole jobless period and he tried to get custody so you are definitely straw manning him at the end even though I agree with most of what you said.
For sure there good fathers exist who want to be in theirs kids lives after a divorce, I have known a few. Sadly mine sure wasnt, my parents had shared custody but I dipped because of his functional alcoholic emotionally cold ass, who never pursued seeing me again and dragged my mother through claims court for 20 years and never asked how I was once.
A housemom is not a fulltime job for a normal family with 2 kids. Lets take FOOD: You don't have to cook your kids pancakes every morning. They can eat porrible/bread etc. that takes almost no preperation and by the age of 4+ or so, they can put stuff on their own bread and make their own lunch that way as well, add 1 or 2 fruits and you're done. At lunch, the man and the kids for most of their years, are at work/school, so lunch is often only for yourself. The only shared meal that's nice for a housemom to make in my view is diner, because that's when everyone is home and making diner doesn't have to cost more than an hour. SCHOOL: Your kid between the age of 3 and 16+ is at school for 5-8 hours a day and house maintenance/diner/laundry does not cost 5-8 hours a day for a normal family with 2 kids. No one can argue against this. Therefor, being a housemom is not a fulltime job. KIDS CAN ENTERTAIN THEMSELVES AS WELL: When I was home as an 8 year old, I did homework by myself and played by myself or with my neighboorhood friends, or my brother/ sister. Did not need my parents for any of that. I went on bikerides and walks with my parents, but they would've done that anyway even without me. Sometimes mom OR dad played with me but that was maybe like half an hour every day. My brother and sister were raised the same way. We didn't need our parents every hour because we learned to keep ourselves busy, playing with Lego, making drawings, listening to music, playing outside, playing on the Commodore64 etc. We were not raised to be dependent on our parents for our entertainment. The amount of time you spend with your kids - how much you handhold them, is a choice and not always a necessity. ALL IN ALL: Housemoms with 2 kids can have quite some hours a day to persue their own hobbies, especially when both kids are at school. My mom did a lot of handcrafting, gardening and book reading.
What they aren't addressing are the women who are in their late 40s and beyond who regret not having kids and missed their window and now they can't go back. You can delay a passion. You can't rewind biology.
Dude I don't doubt that. it's like that for relationships too. You're gonna have all these people who focus on career-goals and pry away from Cupid' Arrows and then they become like 30, and shit, look at me. It's weird but that's what an atomized society gets you. I guess Steve's argument is about choice. Like I do not DOUBT, once again, that some women would love to be mommies. I'd personally like to be a father, but that is a difficult endeavor that requires time, patience, and a lot of resources, allocation and attention. Not everyone can do that.
I got a daily wire Matt Walsh ad in the middle of this video. Feels like a weird place to see that ad.
It's almost like the yt algorithm detects a large crossover between Incel cringe lords and the daily wire...