@@12123188 that is not traction control. Traction control was banned in 2008 and all teams were running the McLaren ECU at that time. Meaning the FIA would see any modifications to the car. Plus traction control doesn't have a clean sound like that. It's very scratchy and raspy sounding Edit: To what that sound actually is, that is the drive train vibrating under acceleration from wheel spin and shifting in higher revs
The 20k rpm V8s sound the best when going on a straight. For me high speed overtakes at China during that era feel one of the best. The V10s beat it though.
vettel must have been like "Yey, 4th place!" [Alonso passes] "WHAT THE F-" [Engineer interrupts rage] "Well done sebastian, 5th place, you deserve it!"
I totally agree. Fernando should have stopped one lap earlier (like Heidfeld did, who came up from eigth to second) or not at all, since his pitstop only regained him the positions he had lost in the pit lane.
@@TheColinChapmanHe would have won the race stopping 1 lap earlier because in that last lap he was 30 seconds faster than the leaders and even much faster than Nick who was also with wet tyres
I love seeing the huge difference being on the right tyres makes. I'd also love to see Heidfeld's last two laps, and Bourdais dropping from third to seventh in less than a lap because he didn't pit.
Right tyre choice on a drying track. Compare that to Ayrton Senna in Donington 1993 who started with the same tyres as everybody else. Overtook 4 cars in a few corners in the opening lap of the race. Among those Schumacher, Hill and Alain Prost (the latter two in the dominant Williams-Renault). Schumacher won from 16'th on the grid in Spa in 1995.
Its so crazy how he can overtake 4 drivers in one lap, I remember watching this race live and laughing when Kimi finally spun his car out.. I knew either him or Hamilton would at some point, with the way they were battling it out with 4 laps to go or something.
Alonso was the driver who scored most points in the last half of 2008 (Singapore tho.... Had the first half been better he'd have been a Championship contender.
It didn't matter, he would probably have finished 4th anyway, as you say. But this gives a good showing of how much faster you can actually be on inters/wet tyres in these conditions. If Fernando stopped 1 lap earlier, he might even had a chance to win i think.
time will tell, i think hamilton is what the sport needed at that time a frindly "nice" polite driver for kids to look upto and a cracking driver to boot
This move cost Alonso track position to Heidfeld and nearly cost him 2 more positions to Vettel and Kubica as well.So why the hell are people applauding it? It was a gamble that did not pay off. Firstly, Alonso was 4th before Kimi crashed out so was up to 3rd when he pit. By pitting he lost places to Heidfeld, Bourdais, Vettel, Kubica, Kovalainen and he only just managed to beat Vettel and Kubica over the line.If Alonso didn't pit he would have finished 2nd behind Massa. (After Hamiltons 25s penalty dropped Hamilton to 3rd). instead Alonso finished 4th
How would Renault have had any idea that Raikonnen would spin off, or Hamilton would be penalised? It was a gamble that he executed beautifully, only unforeseeable circumstances mean not taking the pitstop could have lead to a better outcome. And isn't racing and passing generally seen as a good thing?
Heidfeld take part of the gamble, because he was P7 and 53 seconds ahead the P1 when it remained 7 laps to go. Alonso was P4, with Bourdais behind him 5 seconds ahead. Would be so crazy from Renault and Alonso, to change tyres 2 laps before, when Raikkonen still in the lead and when it was not clear about the rain. Watching races 10 years after, and from the sofa, is easier to decide strategies.
Heidfeld had the best strategy. Not sure if Alonso would have done better without his stop. He may have been overtaken by Heidfeld as well or he might have crashed. Given how slw Hamilton and Massa were in the final lap it made perfect sense to switch to intermediates.
Renault didn't want to risk P4 for nothing. Heidfeld pitted early because he was in P7 and had little to lose. Renault eventually realised that pitting for tyres could be a useful gamble, but waited later to reduce risk.
There is nothing wrong with being a fan of Heidfeld. I quite like him myself. I also like this quote from Wiki: "Heidfeld has now started 150 races, so if he were to eventually win a race he would break the record for most starts before a maiden victory."
@vickmatell Nick was 8th when he came into the pits with 2 laps to go, he didn't lose a place during his stop. then Kimi shredded his Ferrari (Nick was 7th), when Nick entered his last lap, he became 6th (due to Fernando's stop), and during his last lap in the Malmedy-Pouhon-Section he passed Vettel (5th), Kubica(4th) and Bourdais(3rd). After the race, Hamilton got penalized and Nick was promoted to 2nd. I think his last lap at Spa 2008 can be compared to Senna's first lap at Donington 1993.
You're right. Fernando had been ahead of the Bourdais/Kubica/Vettel/Heidfeld-train, Nick stopped after 42 laps for full wets, 1 lap later Fernando stopped for intermeds and could reel in 3 out of 4. Thus, his pit stop had brought him an opportunity to prove his driving skills, but no net advantage. Heidfeld ended up 2nd, only 9 seconds behind Massa. With Nick's pitstop strategy, Fernando would have had a chance to catch Felipe in his last lap. but there is no 'if' or 'would' in racing...
@beyblader10171 he didn't get past Heidfeld. Nick stopped after 42 laps for intermeds, Fernando after 43 out of 44. On lap 42, Fernando was ahead of Nick, but he finished behind him. the white BMW Fernando overtook was Kubica, not Heidfeld.
"This is currently held by Rubens Barrichello, who claimed his first victory on his 123rd attempt. Heidfeld also currently holds another dubious record; he is the driver who has scored the highest number of world championship points without a Grand Prix win." Impressive. Really, there is nothing wrong with being his fan but please, don't try to compare him with Fernando.
This record was now broken twice by 2021. In 2009, Webber won his first race at the German GP which was his 130th race and then again at the Sakhir GP in 2020 where Sergio Perez won at his 190th race.
both Fernando and Nick overtook the same number of drivers on the track (three, namely Bourdais, Vettel and Kubica). In the end, the 2008 count between them was 61:60, and please do not forget that the singapore victory for Fernando was the result of a fony. So I think they were even - more or less.
I am not bitter at all - I think he deserved all he got, I am just saying that in FR, F3 and GP2 he was with teams proven capable of winning. I am not saying that his skill is lower than any other Grand Prix driver, probably higher than most. I don't know how we got into this from me saying that you were wrong about F3000, and then again with the "F3" comment - I don't think Hamilton is a bad driver in any way.
it rained with a lap to go! some drivers gambled not to pit while others did. even though alonso passed drivers on slicks while he was on wets, it was a quick lap, and was his outlap aswell
this was a race... last year massa or kimi crashed before chikane... i remember that. great job btw foe heidfeld too who made same move and went to pits for wet tyres...
it's not the drive, it's the fact he was willing to take the gamble and amazingly made up 4 places in the space of a few corners. That's what made it amazing.
The official F1 site says he was driving P3 when he entered the pit, quoting: Lap 44 - Hamilton nearly loses it through Eau Rouge. Alonso pits from P3. Bourdais is now in P3. The drivers are tip-toeing around the track. So he lost 1 position
which position had Heidfeld before he changed to inters? somebody Knows? cause many people highlight the last lap of Alonso passing from P8 to P4, But i don't remember where has Heifeld before, i think taht was behind Alonso 2 laps to end, but Nick finish third, second finally when hamilton was punished.
Heidfeld finished second because of Lewis Hamilton penalty. Also, Nick Heidfeld doesn't drive in F1 any more. He never won a single Grand Prix despite starting over 180 of them. He has the most podiums for a driver who never won anything. He is nothing like Ayrton Senna da Silva or Fernando Alonso Díaz.
There is no "F3" series - there are some national series, like Japanese F3 and British F3, and there is the European championship, F3 Euroseries. Lewis Hamilton did not race in any F3 series in 2003 - but he won Formula Renault 2.0 UK. But anyways, it doesn't really matter, you don't have to convince anyone that he won a lot in junior series - but personally, I think he had much, much better support than most drivers, being with McLaren from the start of his formula racing career.
@nessie43 Alonso is usually being very bold driver, and involved in pretty big scandals (singapore 2008, and mclaren spying case 2007). No wonder if somebody just dont like the guy.
I think that is what the media wanted us to think. I f you ask me, Button is as good as hamilton and much more polite. I was living in england the last 3 years and i can tell you that outside uk Lewis is not seen for everyone as "mr nice". ITV did a good work not showing his "dark side". And trust me, people is tired of watching Lewis father on screen every two minutes of grandprix... Alonso won two championships with his head,more than with his car. By the way,god bless Martin Brundell
great stuff. Ok, he's on wets and the others dry, but they're still cold and the grip level isn't as certain as he makes it look like... (not candy from a baby)
I am living in Spain now. Alonso had the gear box problems at magny cours, i think. Hamilton pushed the wrong button, same as Kovalainen did last year in Australia. The gear box problems was a cover up thing. It would be the first time in history where a gear box is broken and 20 seconds later is miracously perfect. But i do not want to change your beliefs of course. BTW GO BARCELONA!!!!!!!!!
terrible strategy! Fernando should have pitted either one lap earlier (like Nick Heidfeld did) or not at all. with two laps to go, he had been in front of Heidfeld and finished behind him.
lol ''he knew he had to'' ofc you have to lift if its damn wet there everyone knows it damn it sure is easy to impress you :P i think that even more impressing is that he overtook 4 guys in 1 lap great strategy
Well not exactly. In gt5 prologue the ferrari f2007 chassis is in there and if you race it is againsts only f2007 because it is only f1 car in the game prologue. but I saw a car list that had mclaren f2007 in it too, for full game. I hope it is not a lie.
Nooooooo.... I am not a newcomer to f1, like many spanish compatriots. Lewis is extremely good, in fact, i enjoy watching him driving to the limit. My point is that i ve been living in uk the last 3 years and i hate how ITV brainwashed all public about how nice and sportsman Lewis is. They did not tell the truth about hungary 07 and what happen to hamilton´s car and the "gear box problems" All credit to Brundell,though
@LeJimster Dear, naive friend. Tell me one top team that fights for the championship, which treats both their drivers equally? Certain decisions have to be made to be successful. I dont like direct team order either, but sometimes it happens. And it's not Alonso or any other driver who makes them, but the teamchefs. If you're 'not a fan' of that 'tough luck' it is indeed.
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0:11 that is officially one of the best sounds I've ever heard from an F1 car
Traction control🤦
@@12123188 that is not traction control. Traction control was banned in 2008 and all teams were running the McLaren ECU at that time. Meaning the FIA would see any modifications to the car. Plus traction control doesn't have a clean sound like that. It's very scratchy and raspy sounding
Edit: To what that sound actually is, that is the drive train vibrating under acceleration from wheel spin and shifting in higher revs
@@12123188 you got schooled 😂
The 20k rpm V8s sound the best when going on a straight. For me high speed overtakes at China during that era feel one of the best. The V10s beat it though.
V6 hybrid engines can hyde
vettel must have been like "Yey, 4th place!" [Alonso passes] "WHAT THE F-" [Engineer interrupts rage] "Well done sebastian, 5th place, you deserve it!"
I think that was Bourdais
@@scorpio610 it was Vettel
Best driver on the grid. Fantastic driving.
14 years later and he's still in the sport, what a legend
@@simonpeschke6842 he left then came back 🤦♂️
@@mohammed_the_train_spotter... And thus he's in the sport 🤦♂️
@@simonpeschke6842 wtf dude?
@OriginalFake yes
it was a bit crazy to stop to change tyres in the last lap, i thought, but what he did with new, water tyres was amazing!!
I totally agree. Fernando should have stopped one lap earlier (like Heidfeld did, who came up from eigth to second) or not at all, since his pitstop only regained him the positions he had lost in the pit lane.
Tell that to Lando
@@TheColinChapmanHe would have won the race stopping 1 lap earlier because in that last lap he was 30 seconds faster than the leaders and even much faster than Nick who was also with wet tyres
@@flazone4486 F1 is spelled ‚if‘ backwards….
Right tyres, Right time......guy is one of the most talented drivers to race an F1 car.
It was not the right time. He pitted from 3rd and finished 4th. Should have pitted a lap earlier or not pitted at all.
@@MegaCm123456 It was Renault's fault
0:11 What a sound ♥
Lewis fan here, Absolute superb stuff from Alonso here, Fernando showing that absolute top notch masterclass, we love to see it
Fernando is faster than you
I love seeing the huge difference being on the right tyres makes. I'd also love to see Heidfeld's last two laps, and Bourdais dropping from third to seventh in less than a lap because he didn't pit.
Right tyre choice on a drying track.
Compare that to Ayrton Senna in Donington 1993 who started with the same tyres as everybody else. Overtook 4 cars in a few corners in the opening lap of the race. Among those Schumacher, Hill and Alain Prost (the latter two in the dominant Williams-Renault).
Schumacher won from 16'th on the grid in Spa in 1995.
Its so crazy how he can overtake 4 drivers in one lap, I remember watching this race live and laughing when Kimi finally spun his car out.. I knew either him or Hamilton would at some point, with the way they were battling it out with 4 laps to go or something.
Diossss como suena!!!!!! Y menudo pilotaje, tremendo
i'm not even an alonso fan but that was amazing
Well maybe you should become one
@nata zeze Tf is that question lol
@@Someone25948 who would be a fan of crylonso the most toxic crybaby still getting owned by Ocon with a dry personality 🤣
Alonso was the driver who scored most points in the last half of 2008 (Singapore tho.... Had the first half been better he'd have been a Championship contender.
I usually wouldn't say this, but...Just absolutely great driving for Alonso!!
It didn't matter, he would probably have finished 4th anyway, as you say. But this gives a good showing of how much faster you can actually be on inters/wet tyres in these conditions. If Fernando stopped 1 lap earlier, he might even had a chance to win i think.
time will tell, i think hamilton is what the sport needed at that time a frindly "nice" polite driver for kids to look upto and a cracking driver to boot
I'm a Kubica fan. I have to say,though, Alonso is really good.Experience is on his hands and so is his skills.
This move cost Alonso track position to Heidfeld and nearly cost him 2 more positions to Vettel and Kubica as well.So why the hell are people applauding it? It was a gamble that did not pay off. Firstly, Alonso was 4th before Kimi crashed out so was up to 3rd when he pit. By pitting he lost places to Heidfeld, Bourdais, Vettel, Kubica, Kovalainen and he only just managed to beat Vettel and Kubica over the line.If Alonso didn't pit he would have finished 2nd behind Massa. (After Hamiltons 25s penalty dropped Hamilton to 3rd). instead Alonso finished 4th
Hamilton's penalty was the usual bullshit politics
How would Renault have had any idea that Raikonnen would spin off, or Hamilton would be penalised?
It was a gamble that he executed beautifully, only unforeseeable circumstances mean not taking the pitstop could have lead to a better outcome.
And isn't racing and passing generally seen as a good thing?
Heidfeld take part of the gamble, because he was P7 and 53 seconds ahead the P1 when it remained 7 laps to go. Alonso was P4, with Bourdais behind him 5 seconds ahead. Would be so crazy from Renault and Alonso, to change tyres 2 laps before, when Raikkonen still in the lead and when it was not clear about the rain. Watching races 10 years after, and from the sofa, is easier to decide strategies.
Heidfeld had the best strategy. Not sure if Alonso would have done better without his stop. He may have been overtaken by Heidfeld as well or he might have crashed. Given how slw Hamilton and Massa were in the final lap it made perfect sense to switch to intermediates.
Renault didn't want to risk P4 for nothing. Heidfeld pitted early because he was in P7 and had little to lose. Renault eventually realised that pitting for tyres could be a useful gamble, but waited later to reduce risk.
I thought it was risky to change to wet tyres on the last lap, but with his skill and experience, Alonso made it pay off
There is nothing wrong with being a fan of Heidfeld. I quite like him myself.
I also like this quote from Wiki:
"Heidfeld has now started 150 races, so if he were to eventually win a race he would break the record for most starts before a maiden victory."
0:45 is one of the best v8 sounds I’ve heard!
Appearing from nowhere to finish 4th! Alonso at his best! (if on superior tyres) An inspired move to inters.
It was not the right time. He pitted from 3rd and finished 4th. Should have pitted a lap earlier or not pitted at all.
easy mode
normal mode
hard mode
Alonso mode
xDDD
Now that was fantastic!
This is so awesome, cold blooded Alonso :D
@vickmatell Nick was 8th when he came into the pits with 2 laps to go, he didn't lose a place during his stop. then Kimi shredded his Ferrari (Nick was 7th), when Nick entered his last lap, he became 6th (due to Fernando's stop), and during his last lap in the Malmedy-Pouhon-Section he passed Vettel (5th), Kubica(4th) and Bourdais(3rd). After the race, Hamilton got penalized and Nick was promoted to 2nd. I think his last lap at Spa 2008 can be compared to Senna's first lap at Donington 1993.
"on a drying track"
It just started to rain 2-3 laps before the end.
I'm amazed how many people don't remember exactly what happened only 4 years ago.
You're right. Fernando had been ahead of the Bourdais/Kubica/Vettel/Heidfeld-train, Nick stopped after 42 laps for full wets, 1 lap later Fernando stopped for intermeds and could reel in 3 out of 4. Thus, his pit stop had brought him an opportunity to prove his driving skills, but no net advantage. Heidfeld ended up 2nd, only 9 seconds behind Massa. With Nick's pitstop strategy, Fernando would have had a chance to catch Felipe in his last lap. but there is no 'if' or 'would' in racing...
Amazing, just amazing. :D
Absolutely Fantastic
Great lap
he overtakes 2 cars in 100 meters waouw
@beyblader10171 he didn't get past Heidfeld. Nick stopped after 42 laps for intermeds, Fernando after 43 out of 44. On lap 42, Fernando was ahead of Nick, but he finished behind him. the white BMW Fernando overtook was Kubica, not Heidfeld.
very good overtakeshow alonso.
This is what I want the new f1 game to be like :D . Variable weather good engine sounds and simulation gameplay :D
11 years later. It's there! Well , almost. Except that sound
Holly shit! He overtook four drivers in one lap! Apart from he was driving on the wet tires and they were just floating on the slicks
Awesome lap!
"This is currently held by Rubens Barrichello, who claimed his first victory on his 123rd attempt. Heidfeld also currently holds another dubious record; he is the driver who has scored the highest number of world championship points without a Grand Prix win."
Impressive. Really, there is nothing wrong with being his fan but please, don't try to compare him with Fernando.
This record was now broken twice by 2021. In 2009, Webber won his first race at the German GP which was his 130th race and then again at the Sakhir GP in 2020 where Sergio Perez won at his 190th race.
both Fernando and Nick overtook the same number of drivers on the track (three, namely Bourdais, Vettel and Kubica). In the end, the 2008 count between them was 61:60, and please do not forget that the singapore victory for Fernando was the result of a fony. So I think they were even - more or less.
I am not bitter at all - I think he deserved all he got, I am just saying that in FR, F3 and GP2 he was with teams proven capable of winning. I am not saying that his skill is lower than any other Grand Prix driver, probably higher than most. I don't know how we got into this from me saying that you were wrong about F3000, and then again with the "F3" comment - I don't think Hamilton is a bad driver in any way.
it rained with a lap to go! some drivers gambled not to pit while others did. even though alonso passed drivers on slicks while he was on wets, it was a quick lap, and was his outlap aswell
Absolute master!
this was a race... last year massa or kimi crashed before chikane... i remember that. great job btw foe heidfeld too who made same move and went to pits for wet tyres...
it's not the drive, it's the fact he was willing to take the gamble and amazingly made up 4 places in the space of a few corners.
That's what made it amazing.
It was not the right time. He pitted from 3rd and finished 4th. Should have pitted a lap earlier or not pitted at all.
The official F1 site says he was driving P3 when he entered the pit, quoting: Lap 44 - Hamilton nearly loses it through Eau Rouge. Alonso pits from P3. Bourdais is now in P3. The drivers are tip-toeing around the track. So he lost 1 position
which position had Heidfeld before he changed to inters? somebody Knows? cause many people highlight the last lap of Alonso passing from P8 to P4, But i don't remember where has Heifeld before, i think taht was behind Alonso 2 laps to end, but Nick finish third, second finally when hamilton was punished.
Not a knock on Fernando's talent at all, but this vid really demonstrates just how important it is to be on the right tyres at the right time.
I believe i can fly!! ❤❤❤❤
Heidfeld finished second because of Lewis Hamilton penalty. Also, Nick Heidfeld doesn't drive in F1 any more. He never won a single Grand Prix despite starting over 180 of them. He has the most podiums for a driver who never won anything. He is nothing like Ayrton Senna da Silva or Fernando Alonso Díaz.
What are great driver Alonso is!
I don't believe that, Massa was 3rd before the stop for sure.
Alonso was somewhere around 6 afair.
Alonso is an amazing driver, and this is coming from someone who is not one of his fans.
So do you have any control over a car when t hydroplanes?
He said "racing guys with slicks" and there were no slicks in 2008.
And after that there comes the Iceman mode which is unbeatable.
One more lap and win the race!!
Nice last corner :D
No será una ciencia pero hay que estar ahí y y hay que hacerlo, los demas no, por lo tanto buena estrategia y muy buena conducción. :)
There is no "F3" series - there are some national series, like Japanese F3 and British F3, and there is the European championship, F3 Euroseries. Lewis Hamilton did not race in any F3 series in 2003 - but he won Formula Renault 2.0 UK. But anyways, it doesn't really matter, you don't have to convince anyone that he won a lot in junior series - but personally, I think he had much, much better support than most drivers, being with McLaren from the start of his formula racing career.
And he did that without pushing other cars out of his way like a certain other driver...
@HMJogMDG yes, great driving, but a terrible strategy. Heidfeld went vom 8 to 2, since he stopped one lap earlier.
@nessie43 Alonso is usually being very bold driver, and involved in pretty big scandals (singapore 2008, and mclaren spying case 2007). No wonder if somebody just dont like the guy.
best F1 racing this year is going to be in computer games i cant see most of the drivers bothering
I think that is what the media wanted us to think. I f you ask me, Button is as good as hamilton and much more polite.
I was living in england the last 3 years and i can tell you that outside uk Lewis is not seen for everyone as "mr nice". ITV did a good work not showing his "dark side". And trust me, people is tired of watching Lewis father on screen every two minutes of grandprix... Alonso won two championships with his head,more than with his car.
By the way,god bless Martin Brundell
@vickmatell He was 7th or 8th i think
What are the rules regarding yellow flags? Could he overtake once he had passed Raikkonen (who has caused the yellow flag)?
Yeh they have to back off through yellow flags and cannot overtake until the next marshall station waves the green flag and then it's back to normal.
great stuff. Ok, he's on wets and the others dry, but they're still cold and the grip level isn't as certain as he makes it look like... (not candy from a baby)
That must've been the "F3 title" you already mentioned :)
It's wet out there boys. You can hear the tires chattering badly as he comes out of the pits.
That first uphill chicane is so treacherous.
I am living in Spain now. Alonso had the gear box problems at magny cours, i think.
Hamilton pushed the wrong button, same as Kovalainen did last year in Australia. The gear box problems was a cover up thing. It would be the first time in history where a gear box is broken and 20 seconds later is miracously perfect. But i do not want to change your beliefs of course.
BTW GO BARCELONA!!!!!!!!!
@rodentcafeteria What is a bad 'MFer'? I only know that expression from playing Diablo 2 on battlenet.
Bandidão mas espetacular piloto. Na tocada e na estratégia!
would like to see Heidfelds onboard
Que epicamente jodida esta vuelta. Mucho nano xDD
Aprovechando que aun no estaba Petrov! 😁
Espero que en 2021, vuelva a hacer algo como esto, otra vez, con renault, mejor.
@7macfly2 except Button. Button seems to be nice.
terrible strategy! Fernando should have pitted either one lap earlier (like Nick Heidfeld did) or not at all. with two laps to go, he had been in front of Heidfeld and finished behind him.
Think Spa 12 months ago. I think he did do that.
why where the other cars so slowly??
Bad tyres ?
0:40 o yeah vaya contravolante en el piano y pisandolo con agua hay que tenerlos bien puestos...
Buen estratega el nano
he was on intermediates, and everyone else is on drys, how is this creditable
what position was he when he pitted?
no when he came into the pits, did no-one pass him whilst he was in the pits?
Not really... every television camera in Belgium was pointing at Hamilton/Raikkonen.
he was with inters , and vettel on dry but he overtook him just before the finish line ... >>>>
on which place he was before the pitstop??
even better watching in speed 2
lol ''he knew he had to'' ofc you have to lift if its damn wet there everyone knows it damn it sure is easy to impress you :P i think that even more impressing is that he overtook 4 guys in 1 lap great strategy
first chicken, second chicken, last chicken. XD XD
Awww. Don't cry.
It was wet, he must've had the right tires on when others hadn't pitted to switch them? I don't really remember.
Which F3000 title?
Well not exactly. In gt5 prologue the ferrari f2007 chassis is in there and if you race it is againsts only f2007 because it is only f1 car in the game prologue. but I saw a car list that had mclaren f2007 in it too, for full game. I hope it is not a lie.
Nooooooo.... I am not a newcomer to f1, like many spanish compatriots. Lewis is extremely good, in fact, i enjoy watching him driving to the limit. My point is that i ve been living in uk the last 3 years and i hate how ITV brainwashed all public about how nice and sportsman Lewis is.
They did not tell the truth about hungary 07 and what happen to hamilton´s car and the "gear box problems"
All credit to Brundell,though
@LeJimster Dear, naive friend. Tell me one top team that fights for the championship, which treats both their drivers equally? Certain decisions have to be made to be successful. I dont like direct team order either, but sometimes it happens. And it's not Alonso or any other driver who makes them, but the teamchefs. If you're 'not a fan' of that 'tough luck' it is indeed.
Clearly you haven't been watching F1 this year, i'm a button fan but it's obvious that alonso is by far the best driver this season.
In what place was he when he came into pits?
looks like kovalainen is watching the birds
its only the tyres that got him the positions, otherwise on dry tyres theres no way he would have got past vettel or heidfeld