MY EVERYDAY FOUNDATION FOR VERY PALE SKIN || ROUTINE AND APPLICATION
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'Mischievous Forest Sprites' by TeknoAXE
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PRODUCTS USED
Skincare:
Paula's Choice Skin balancing oil reducing cleanser
Organic Witch hazel as a toner
Paula's Choice BHA gel with Salicylic acid
Illamasqua Matte Veil Primer
MAC Studio Fix Fluid in NW10
Manic Panic Dreamtone White foundation
MAC Studio Fix Powder Plus Foundation in NW10
Manic Panic Vampires Veil White Powder
Stargazer Pressed White Powder
MAC Blush in 'Harmony' as a contour
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** ALL PRODUCTS AND OPINIONS ARE MY OWN AND HAVE BEEN PURCHASED WITH MY OWN MONEY. I AM NOT SPONSORED OR AFFILIATED WITH ANY COMPANIES! **
My mom told me that my makeup makes me look “sickly” or “dead” and it actually made me happy because that’s the look I usually go for 😂
I also have naturally reddish cheeks so I like pale makeup look
try clown paint
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@@countesselizabeth sorry we disappointed you countess
This is the first time I've seen someone that pale.
But every skin tone has it's own beauty.
You look stunning, sweetheart !
A girl That lives her life No, you can clearly see that her own skin color is nearly as white as the foundation. You are right at one point, she may have a foundation that's maybe one or 2 shades lighter but I can't see that much of a difference of her with and without makeup.
And if this woman is attractive or not is your opinion, but I don't think it's nice to say that something is 'weird' just because you don't like the way it looks ?
Park Jimin It's sad that I'm pale as her...
Midnattens Widunder Why sad ? I'm sure you look beautiful.
Midnattens Widunder don't feel bad. I'm tan and i wish I was pale!
lil munchkin You can take a look to my profile pic :)
Seriously, even without makeup you are one of the most beautiful creatures I have ever seen. Your features are just stunning.
+Alanah Frayser Why thank you, gorgeous! xx
Alanah Frayser ikr her features are so pretty
Anna Ppp beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Alanah Frayser creature???
And that's why black people have self esteem problems
You are so beautiful its unreal.Youve helped me accept my pale Irish skin. I tanned in tanning beds for years and regret it.
I think everyone goes through a phase where they wish for a different skin tone. I'm glad I was able to help you love yours!
ive been tanning too... really trying to stop and love my natural skin tone!
@@reereephillipsbeauty which products and which remedy are you using daily ?? Plz reply I am from India waiting for your answer
It's funny how us, Mediterranean ppl try to whiten our skin, while Irish and Scandinavian try to tan it
came for the pale face tips, stayed because your beauty with that music in the background is totally enchanting
Oh yeah. The music sets the right tone for the video. It really is wonderful.
your skin tone is extremely beautiful
It is isn't it? I wish I was a little paler xD
Metzli No dont! I dont care what skin tone you have but im sure any other wouldnt suite you as much as your current one does!
Well,we can all wish things.Humans can not be perfectly happy with what they have.This is against our nature,isn't it?
Simin Darf w
i like how everyone in the comments are saying pale skin is beautiful, yet when I go to school i get bullied because i'm so pale. 😞
Nathan _ Please talk to your parents or teachers
Welcome to the club 😂laugh about it girl pale skin is beautiful
Pale skin is beautiful- I had people who would joke about my pale skin ("your the whitest white girl on the planet")...but then others who would say it is beautiful ("I would give anything to have such porcelain skin like yours")---- i choose to listen to the ones who say its beautiful :-) Do what works for you-- I am betting you are beautiful :-)
Honestly I got scared when I saw her
i think they are just so jealous...nothing more....
Beautiful! I'm also pale and have gotten sick of sunless tanning lotions and sprays. This is the perfect tutorial to help me navigate the world of pale foundations and powders. Thank you!
Clary Lucretia gurl, you’re also STUNNING. Pale skin is gorgeous
You're gorgeous! Your pale skin is amazing. I didn't think it was possible to be that pale naturally. Just absolutley stunning!
THANK YOU! I was struggling with foundation for a looooong time because I couldn't find one that was as light as my skin. I never thought about mixing a normal foundation with a white foundation, so this video was really helpful for me!
I love your tutorials, they are really inspiring.
Finally someone who's legit as pale as me makes a foundation video! Illamasqua makes some very pale foundations if anyone's interested in alternatives. The skin base in 02 and rich liquid in 115 give me a bit of colour but are the best matches I've found without having to mix with white foundation - unfortunately neither work well for my skin otherwise :( They also sell pure white foundation in both foundations. N07 makes a good pressed powder in the colour translucent and Mac does a good pure white powder called Shivering White.
nobody wants acne but with her it's really useful. You get to see just how effective the makeup is at covering up blemishes. I'm glad we get to see her before she puts anything on.
+LiLo For some reason, youtube won't let me reply to your comments, I think because you've got certain settings on your profile.
MAC is a weird brand, and have their foundations back-to-front. Generally, warm foundations are yellow based, and cool foundations are pink based, but MAC 'NC' is yellow and vice versa.
Olive skin tones are actually green based, which is why those with olive tones can generally wear either one.
I hope that answers your question! xx
ReeRee Phillips I'm really pale too! It's hard to find youtubers as pail as my self. I also find that I have an acne problem on my forehead by my eyebrows. I don't understand.
What pleases me the most is your constantly amazing choice of music. You, madame, have a wonderful taste and I love every single piece of art you put in your videos.
I'd love to be as pale as you, but my palest, winter color is still waaaayyyy darker due to my Mediterranean blood. lol
You're so pretty!
Your skin is a beautiful tan shade! :)
Same here 😆
I'm Mediterranean but pretty pale
finding a foundation is a challenge though, one that doesn't oxidise or go patchy
Same here, my dad has israeli blood so though Id like to be a little paler, I cant get very pale. My skin is still pretty light, but not noticably light.
Your bone structure!! Uggghhhh
+cscott Naww thank you! I used to be teased in school for having an 'alien head'.
+ReeRee Phillips you're the prettiest alien I've ever seen then. Stupid people.
+ReeRee Phillips you have a doll-like face!! really beautiful and suits so well the goth style :)
nice bone structure!
You are so pretty with and without makeup.
Thank you beautiful :) xx
You are soooo naturally beautiful 😍 stunning features
Thank you!
You are honestly so stunningly gorgeous 😍😍😍
This is going to help me so much! I actually have never worn any foundation because I just couldn't find any that looked good on me but lately I've been getting pinker and I want to cover it up! You are a blessing for real. Usually I find that a lot of artists on here are annoying but I just love your videos. Keep doing you!
+Somewhat Damaged Thank you heaps, beautiful
I use the exact same witch hazel and I agree 100%. No more expensive toner for me. That stuff is incredible.
I have been looking for a pale skin foundation solution for a very long time and am SO thankful I watched your video! Thank you! Every other video I have ever watched they applied way too much foundation to where it was caked on or they had super clear skin so their foundation was too light to cover acne or they weren't pale enough. Thank you so much for posting this video! :) Very well done makeup and beautiful! :)
***** You're very welcome! I am glad I helped
Finally someone with really pale skin.. like me! :D I'm so happy i found this video ^^
Thanks for this, its really helpful! ♡
And You're so gorgeous ^w^
I'm almost 42 and it took me FOREVER to discover the Manic Panic Dreamtone. I spent years with either orangey or pinky tones from foundations because they don't make them pale enough and the Manic Panic makes them match PERFECTLY to my skin and I don't look like I have cake on my face! And it's inexpensive too.
First RUclips foundation video with someone who's actually as pale as I am. Thank you for all the tips I'm definitely going to look into the manic panic foundation.
I have an updated foundation video coming soon. Its a completely cruelty free foundation routine, and the products are cheaper! xx
+ReeRee Phillips that's amazing! Thanks for letting me know :)
You won't believe how stoked I was when I discovered that my local MAC-counter actually had the Studio Fix Fluid in NW10... Scared the bejeesus out of the poor girl working there too, she was about to say something like "that's too pale" when I swiped a bit on my jawline and blended it out for her to inspect. Her reaction was quite priceless. (She herself was probably a NC35 or something similar, and looked genuinely horrified at the notion of someone being paler than NW20.)
More than likely, I will have to pale it out with my Manic Panic Dreamtone in Virgin like you do, though - because my face is slightly darker than my neck / chest. Also, it's supposedly also a foundation that inhibits oxidation of other foundations(!?) so it works more like a color corrector when you mix it in with - say - the Studio Fix Fluid.
...honestly, though, I can get away with wearing the Manic Panic Dreamtone foundation with the Manic Panic powder on its own...
MAC Studio Fix fluid does oxidate, which I accommodate for by adding more Dreamtone :) I have no clue why MAC artists try and make people darker than they are. I was told I was an NC15 (which I clearly am not) and when I said I am lighter, they replied with 'Well, I am a makeup artist.'. My reply was 'Well, so am I, and I am confident that I am NOT NC15', and proceeded with buying NW10 and the Full Coverage foundation in W10 (Pro product).
ReeRee Phillips Yeah, no - the girls at my local MAC-counter don't pull that "welll, I'm a makeup artist..."-schtick with me, thankfully. It might be due to the fact that I'm pretty much the only customer there who knows what they're looking for and knows how to ask for it. (But I'm no makeup artist, heheh)
Dystopia Kaotika Its always best to know what you want before going to a MAC counter! They are pretty good at up-selling.
ReeRee Phillips I'm still angry about the first time I visited a mac pro store (I just started to use foundation at that time) and was talked into buying an nc15 foundation for 32 € which I can't use since it's waaay to dark. How do these people even get their licence?>_
***** Could the Manic Panic white foundation be utilized to color correct the NC15 foundation? In which case you would at least be able to wear it...
How (some) of the makeup-counter/store people get hired is beyond me. I'm fortunate in that sense, though; I look so mind-blowingly different to them (pale, no fake-tan, etc), so they can't really "correct" me if I tell them that NW15 is roughly three shades too dark on my face (especially when I demonstrate the way they would). ;)
I'm like 6 shades shades darker than you and watching this lol. I think you would look really good with platinum hair, though you're already beautiful
***** Thank you gorgeous :) xx
Wow. Thank you so much for this. I am not exaggerating - this is the single most useful youtube video I have ever found. I'm ghostly white but I love experimenting with makeup. Every foundation I've ever used has been too dark. I'm so pale that I've tried to use light foundation as a contour before, and it was too dark and orange. What people don't seem to understand is that I actually like being this pale though, and want to use makeup to bring that out. I'm Australian too and I enjoy that I don't look like anyone else. Thank you, I'm definitely going to invest in some of those manic panic products!
Positively beautiful with or without makeup! I don't have the palest of skin but I do become quite translucent during the winter so I think I'll be looking into some of that Manic Panic to lighten my foundations during the colder months. Thanks so much for the tip! It's lovely to hear that you have a daughter, we have that in common as well :) My daughter just turned 8 this year and is the center of my universe. XO's
Awww! We have that in common! I think sometimes people are a little shocked to find out I have a child. My daughter will be 5 on Independence Day :).
I will be making a video all about lightening foundation, and how to pick the right lighteners for certain foundations
Even though I have a warmer skin tone, I loved the way you talked about the products in the video. I wish I felt that passionately about my makeup for my skin needs! I’ve tried so many products & spent so much money and while I do prefer some products to others I don’t have any really stables.
Your skin is out of this world, amazing
Pale Skin with black hair is absolutely beautiful
YAYYYYY, HAILS TO THE PALE GODDESSES OUT THERE! I tried the Manic Panic white foundation but i'm not a fan if its consistency, i much prefer MAKE-UP ATELIER PARIS's waterproof foundation in white. Damn, we have different undertones, haha. I am very pale but with a rather strong yellow undertone. Can't wait for your next videos! 💞
Don't worry, I have many product recommendations coming for all undertones! I might need to get my hands on the Makeup Atelier White. I just realised that Face Atelier and Makeup Atelier are different brands! xx
Haha, yes, they are, i know i used to think they were the same brand, haha. I don't really like the Mac Face and Body in white and it's almost impossible to get your hands on it here so Make-up Atelier it is. 😊
Andreea Baciu Totally agree that the MAC face and body white is rubbish!
Yesss, finally. Everyone seems to love it. I know even some with oily skin love it and i'm like whaat?! I can feel it sitting on top of my skin and ewwwh, i can't handle it.
I'm so happy I stumbled across your channel on a youtube deep dive into the goth world. Thank you so much for this video, I've been struggling to find products for such a pale little vampire as me for as long as I've been wearing makeup! You're the best, thank youuuuu
I think it's amazing how many skin tones there are! We all come in such different colors and it's awesome
Yes! It makes me so sad to see so many people who are unhappy with their skin
Finally someone as fair as me with black hair. I am 45 and have been on a lifelong quest to find the perfect foundation. I’m still looking. I have super dry skin. Elizabeth Arden used to make a foundation that was perfect but they discontinued it. I also use the same shade in Mac. But it oxidizes on me. Maybe one day I’ll find the perfect method. Thanks for sharing.
you're so beautiful with and without makeup.
I found the white manic panic foundation at my local goth store a few weeks ago and I love it.
I always mix it with Makeup Revolution Foundation in shade 2, cause it got a slight pink undertone.
Drugstore foundations have always been too yellow for me
Oh goodness. Finally! I've been looking for a tutorial with product recommendations for people with truly cool undertones who aren't willing to accept yellowy looking foundation and ignore how weird and fake it looks. I hate my face looking reddish or yellowish when my neck is so blue-white. I must try the manic panic white foundation mix-in. I've been going barefaced until now and just doing my best to keep my skin immaculate. Even with all that effort in skincare, I'd like to be able to put on a full face for special events and photos since perfect skin tone is desirable. You made that possible! Thanks so much.
+Ashley Young You're very welcome gorgeous!
Wow. You are stunning. I don't always see subtlety in the Goth makeup world, but you do a lot of little things, which really complement your already amazing natural features.
This really helps! I was so sad when NW10 was too dark and I thought there was no hope but this video has saved my makeup ❤️
I've been struggling with finding a foundation that is pale enough for me for YEARS... I seriously was giving up, but you have no idea how much this helped me! Never would have thought to make my own shade! Thanks so much! You have such a natural beauty about you. Subbed
Shelby Mullins Always happy to help!
I'm so glad I found this. I actually bought the NW10 studio fix fluid yesterday after they tried it on me in the store. I noticed once it oxidized it was just a little bit too dark for me so I was hoping to lighten it with the Manic Panic foundation. I'm so happy that I found someone else who is doing the same as now I know the products work together well :)
Thank you so much for this video!
You are most welcome
I have to use Manic Panic Dreamtone as well mixed with the lightest color I can find in store. It's fantastic! Love your videos :) you're stunning. ♡
what I have found to work with scarring or pimples is a little bit of lemon juice atleast twice a week or how ever much u need it & leave it on over night and gently wash face the next morning. it will kinda make the pimples dry up and flake off when u exfoliate gently :) your skin is really pretty and so are you
+joe jay Thank you! And that is really cool about the lemon juice thing! I will definitely give it a try
Subscribed!
An eyeshadow and eyebrow tutorial would be much appreciated; your "natural" face is beautiful but your make-up face is a work of art. Thank you. x
Your skin colour is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRETTY Omg 💖🥺I'm so jealous! Wow!
I wish I was this pale. I am pale but I used to self tan with lotion stuff - I wish I accepted my paleness more. You are so gorgeous and I’ve been looking at loads of your makeup looks recently to inspire myself. 🖤 I hope you’re well. 🦇
I have your exact shade of skin! I’m probably the lightest person I know. Thank you sooooo much for this!! People always say I need to tan!
It’s like people don’t like really light and really dark tones!
This is great. I'm just as pale as you are and it was nice to see someone finding foundation that matches.
Your skin is so beautiful. I love seeing shades that i dont see that often.
I think your nose is cute. :)
Thank you for explaining undertones because I have issues finding the right undertones in foundations. This helped a lot. Thanks.
Your skin is stunning as hell. Love it. Did you make a tutorial about this eyeshadow look? If not PLEASE MAKE IT!! So goth and beautiful! I'm new in the channel haha
I use witch hazel too, and I find it clears up my acne when I get breakouts. I might be crazy, but that's what I've noticed.
+Morgan Fortner Witch Hazel is an amazing natural treatment for inflammation :) I use it twice daily. Love it so much! xx
well damn! you're beautiful
So are you!
ReeRee! I've never seen your videos until now! I blend the Manic Panic Dream Tone with another foundation for all over application, and use it alone as a highlighting product. As soon as I heard you talking about skin care, I knew I had to ask if you are an esthetician or makeup artist. Goth Beauticians, unite!!!
+Roxy Elizabeth I'm a Makeup Artist :)
I'm not into the gothic culture but I love your channel! I especially like that you are so true to yourself and are girly and feminine in your way. I also like that it's not 'conventional' it's just lovely 🌹❤
My absolute holy grail pale skin foundation is Missha Perfect Cover BB cream in Milky Beige. Most foundations for pale skin aren't even close lol. I've found a lot of Korean companies cater to super fair doll skin because that's what they're into over there.
Just a tip for anyone who hated the texture of Manic Panic whitener. I've heard Illamasqua also has a wonderful foundation in a very fair shade.
Elle Caszatt They do! I have white foundations from Illamasqua, Manic Panic, Stragazer, Face Atelier and MAC (The Mac one is rubbish).
I am trying to source some of those Korean branded BB and CC creams, because I've heard they're very pale, with high SPF ratings.
I am loving your videos for pale skin too many beauty gurus are all about fake tan and that just isn't me. Pale is the new tan 😃
Thank you :) Moontanners unite!!
Pale is the new sexy!
Classima how fucking racist
Ariya James Black people can be pale too...
Ariya James how
Finally someone with my skin colour! I love being super white
stunning ! i love how beautiful extremely pale and extremely dark women are, honestly so so so gorgeous
Wowww you look like a fairy! So beautiful without the makeup but also with makeup. But wow!
Wow you’re extremely beautiful with no makeup! 😍😍😍💕
Omg finally a tutorial for pale skin people like me! It's been hard finding a shade for so long. Thanks for the video. And btw you're gorgeous ❤️
NiKKiSTiXX1985 Thank you beautiful!
skin color, hair, eyes, lips, nose, everything, damn you're so beautiful.
your skin is so pleasing to look at. it's very beautiful.
Wow u rly rly look like Amy lee from evanescence
your eyeshape, jawline, and lip shape is absolutely gorgeous 😍
Your eyes are such a lovely shade of blue!
Hey hon...
I've always had problem with my skin and acne...
What I found that got rid of it completely, was just washing my face with cold water, then using a coconut sunscreen as my moisturiser...
Putting on all those face washes/toners, does the complete opposite of what they should do, but that's just my opinion 😁
But I can say, that I haven't had a breakout since, and that was over a year and a half ago!
My skin care has changed dramatically since going vegan. I had to get rid of all the nasty stuff that I didn't know tested on animals, I will be doing another video like this very soon!
I'm pale and I love your paler skin ❤ I'm jealous 😍
woahhh you're literally one of the most beautiful human beings I've ever seen 😩💕
you're so pretty, even without makeup, like omg
+Luna Rose Naww thank you!
+ReeRee Phillips omg you replied 😊 and youre very welcome xx
I mix in star gazer/manic panic pure white too!! I am glad I'm not the only one! 😉
I'm pale too, but not quite as lovely clear pale as you are. I think it's awesome you're not just darkening your colour to fit with trends. I think you're stunning! The eyes and entrancing too 👁😍👍🏻🙏🏻
Plus FINALLY- a vid where you clip your hair back first! Oh my giddly it's so weirdly annoying when ladies don't pin their hair out of the way first. Yay!
Very Amy Lee- intended as a big compliment of course 🤗
OMG!!! first tym watching PALE WHITE SKIN like yours.. actually this is bcoz you have JET BLACK HAIR also !!
She's naturally blonde ;)
paulas choice is amazing especially that bha gel
Oh MY GOD 😍😍😍
Your beautiful!! How is your makeup so flawless??? I can never get flawless makeup!!!!!
+Galaxy Girl13 Thank you! You're beautiful too!
Omg your giving morticia Addams vibes 😍❤️
Paula's Choice skin recovery toner doesn't burn at all. Honestly, even when I outgrew other products from PC's range due to price or trying other products I'll always go back to that toner. It isn't as cheap as witch hazel I imagine, and might not work for the same purpose (i wouldn't know, I have never used WH) but it's an amazing non-burning, nourishing toner. I don't use it to remove soap residue or anything, I put some drops in my hands and smooth it over my face. It almost immediately restored some severely dry, cracking areas on my face and I go back to it whenever I get a little too hard on my face with anti-acne medications and get dry/over scrubbed spots. Instant healing almost. Almost eliminates the need for moisturizer in my case, but I like my moisturizer so I use it anyway- plus spf. But if someone out there is looking for a non-burning toner to try and they don't like witch hazel, I'd suggest ordering a sample or a couple samples from PC. They're around 80 cents US. You can order samples of just about anything and the price varies, but it's usually a good little dose. I got some samples of a brightening treatment or other serum, mixed it into a travel size jar of moisturizer, and I think it stretches a good bit that way and also pumps up whatever moisturizer you're using or salvages a lackluster one you're stuck with. Not everything is worth it, though, and I'd advise against the sample sizes of the things like the hyaluronic booster- which I enjoyed, but the sample size for the price is a joke. I also hated their tinted spf but I was too fair for it, and honestly it looked like orange-blackface on me and pilled off for whatever reason. The bha liquid exfoliant is really popular, but I can't say I see any improvement after having gone through an entire bottle just about. Honestly it just makes me look like I have more of a sheen on my skin, but it doesn't do what i was hoping it would or what others say it does for them. I'd recommend the samples before you commit, or checking their return policy.
your skin colour is beautiful, oh dear, I'm jelly ahahha
+Mia Directioner Thank you gorgeous :) Every skin colour is beautiful
I have never worn make up in my whole life and know 0 about it. I'm pale myself but would love to be able to do this kind of art that you manage to achieve with your make up. I wouldn't even know where to start. it's really beautifully done :)
oh my lord, your skin is so beautiful i'm jealous af
the body shop do lightening drops too :) it doesn't change the formula as much as the manic panic one x
“Normal toners seems to burn a bit”
*pulls out WITCH HAZEL*
I cried the first and last time I put any sort of witch hazel product on my face because of how much it burned.
Yay! Happy to see when others are too light for Mac NW10. I try so many things to find a match in lightness let alone undertone.... forever I'm mixing in white.
Love this simple daily wear eyeshadow look, tutorial please!
With makeup you look fantastic but honest to god without makeup you look drop dead beautiful! You just have such a unique face wow! You may get this a lot but you could so easily be a model!
Romy Jasmine Thank you!! You're gorgeous too!
Thank you!!! I am sooo pale, especially when I’m wearing black. In my orchestra concert video, I literally looked like a ghost 😂💖
so what! u are lovely
WOW!!! Before the makeup you were beautiful. But once you put on your brows and lipstick it made the makeup look very put together . lovely !!!
+Holly Burnham Naww thank you gorgeous!! xx
oh wow you're like a porcelain doll! mesmerizing ♥
I think you have the prettiest eyes I've ever seen.. 😍 Thank you for the video!
What eyeshadows did you use? I absolutely love this look!
You're so beautiful!! Plus I've honestly never heard of the Manic Panic makeup you mixed with your Mac foundation. I have not found a foundation light enough for my skin yet so after watching this I'm definitely going to be shopping for that Manic Panic stuff to mix with what I use already!! Thank you so much!!
I never knew a beauty blender could be so pretty lol
+80sforeversim
A true, real life, Snow White! 😍
Your are so damn beautiful. You have a nice face shape and your eyes are so pretty. Love the videos xx
Hey ReeRee! I know this is an older video, but if you see this, do try to find an alcohol free witch hazel toner; the alcohol can be irritating to the skin. The alcohol free with hazel toners can be harder to find, but they do exist.
Gosh.. I can't get over how beautiful you are ._.
I'm happy to see that you do a little bit of contouring. I don't know if you do anything to get that pale or if you are naturally just that pale. I can never find any foundation light enough for me, so I have to mix too! I contour everyday because I feel like with us being that pale, it seems like our features don't look as defined in photos or video. Also, I love love love your eye makeup in this video!
+Amy McCullough I am naturally pale :) And I 100% know what you mean about features being less defined. I use a grey eyeshadow to contour now, which I feel accentuates the paleness...and I love it! xx
ReeRee Phillips Ooo I might have to try that! I use a paler tan bronzer now, but it still ends up being too dark. Makeup either makes me look orange or dead, and I think by this point I'd rather look as pale as possible rather than someone who bathed in dorito dust :p