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I'd argue Kuvira is more like Sozen, where she thinks he conquest is genuinely good for the whole world, is a charismatic leader but isn't so power hungry that she loses all sense of reason. By the time Ozai was in power the royal family was hopped up on the same propaganda and holier than though mentality that the rest of the nation was. All good intentions were out the window and it was just one man trying to force his superiority onto others and then in turn his subordinates did the same. Ozai is the aftermath of what something like Kuvira's cause leads to.
Notice how the Spirit Cannon sounds just like the energy beam that Vaatu fired? Pretty sure that was a deliberate choice on the part of the sound designers. As for Toph and/or her daughters fighting Kuvira, well... Kuvira is an exceptionally talented bender, as well as being in her prime. I don't think Lin or Su alone could stop her, Kuvira could fight them to a standstill long enough to tire them out and pull off the endurance win. Lin and Su together, no, they'd take her down; problem is that there is a literal army stopping that from happening. And Toph? She came right out and said she's too old for this shit. Oh, she has superior knowledge, form, and technique. But Toph is also well past her prime, all it would take is one unexpected spasm or a knee/elbow deciding "we aren't doing this" to get her killed. (Only in my mid-40s, but I have permanent damage to one knee. I know what it's like to have a knee decide that today's word is "nope".)
Disagree w the Oazi thing, Kuvita wants to take over the whole earth kingdom while Oazi wanted to take over the world Also Kuvira wants 0 smoke with Toph
lol..why did Su put metal on her body even as armor while fighting an expert metalbender? That scene could've turned into the equivalent of blood bending. Imagine Kuvira squeezing the life out of Su with that metal armor- tighter and tighter.
Based on her willingness to do that, it likely means that she's constantly bending the metal (since it's still a solid sheet) which prevents another metal bender from effectively bending it in response. In a ranged fight, it's an effective defense since it can block some of the sharp bits of metal and lets her divert her attention towards attacking.
Maybe Im over hyping/looking too deep into it but I think it's such an important comment that Toph made to Kurvira about giving metal benders a bad name that's the biggest disrespect coming from the OG
I really love what a train wreck Toph's family is. Not because I would wish that on anyone, but because having those kinds of struggles makes the characters human. AtlA has always been great at creating complex characters that aren't just your stereotypical hero group, and LoK continues their legacy just as complex. They have the same struggles in their lives anyone else has, and you can relate to these patterns because you see them in reality all the time. Toph grew up effectively locked away, every little aspect in her life decided for her. So she naturally gravitated towards absolute freedom once she ran away with Team Avatar. She "learned" that not giving children their freedom to be themselves makes them miserable and that the ability to do whatever you want is the best you could ever have. The classic "child of very authoritarian parents grows up to become an anti-authoritarian parent" story. In her mind she did the best she could by not restricting her children - unknowingly leaving them without directions, having to figure everything out for themselves... And it goes even further: Both of her daughters grow up to become rather authoritarian as a result of her lax parenting. Lin was already well on her way to it when we saw her in her teen years and seemingly never wavered in her iron grip as chief of police - but even Suyin, who used to be a rebel when she was younger, eventually ended up as the ruler of a city that shuts itself off from the rest of the world for security, and is initially fighting the very idea of her children leaving to find their own way...
Kuvira letting Toph go shows her limits . she would never dare to challenge Toph one on one , girl just kicked all her men with an earthquake without sweating . She can't take that risk
@@Spider-Man647 please , she didn't even use metal to deal with them 💁♀ clearly because she thought it was unnecessary . why then did Kuvira let them go if she's so determined to get rid of her enemies ? if she's even ready to fight Korra and Sue ?
9:00 I said that simply because creators said so. They literally said Kuvira is more or less on the same level as prime toph and most of the people would say toph is better earthbender while Kuvira is better metalbender
I think the main difference is their strengths in fighting styles rather than metal/earth bending skill. Kuvira is probably better at the more fluid, precise form of earth bending that developed in the modern age while Toph's generation focused more on the mountain moving, landscape-changing, likely-to-cause-extensive-property-damage style. Like Bolin, she's light on her feet, only digging in her toes at the exact second she's ready to strike. She's also more precise, doing more damage with less effort. I doubt Kuvira is as sensitive to minute changes in the earth's vibrations as Toph, who immediately realized Zhu Li was lying hundreds of feet away while Kuvira was deceived to her face and only later found out by logic (who else could have sabotaged the weapon twice?) and keen observation of her pocket. Neither does she show any display of overwhelming power that Bumi, Toph, or even Aang had. Still, she's more likely to dodge her opponents' powerful earthbending attacks and frustrate them with nothing more than the metal ornaments on her uniform and quick thinking.
I think that toph proved in this episode the fact that the best earthbender in the world is king bumi she is what 82 and is not willing to fight bumi at 112 yeah let just liberate my own city on my own and then kick some comet inhanced fire bender but
@@lmaooof6521 Ehh, I disagree with that Bumi is a much more agile Earth bender and his feats in general are way stronger. This man's was launching houses like they were lightweight balls and carved up an entire mountain, not to mention he literally threw a 20-30 story metal statue into the air, which means he also lifted the rock underneath that statue. If you add the weight of the houses he threw, plus the statue he launched, plus the rock underneath the statue that he had to have bent in order to move the statue in the first place, Bumi straight up launched well over a million tons of weight casually. This is not say Toph couldn't do this, but she's never performed feats that strong, so based off what we've seen Bumi is better.
@@controlman7490 Bumi isnt beter but stronger. He himself said to Ang that he is the strongest Earth bender he will ever see. And i gues by that he means raw power and not overall strength or skill. Toph has more finece.
@@stefankatsarov5806 That's also debatable because Bumi has shown tons of Earthbending skills as well. Creating quicksand, disappearing into the ground just by falling casually and he didn't even move his arms to bend the ground. He's made rock slabs and then surfed on those rock slabs during his fight with Aang. Also, most impressive of all is bending without moving. That's a combination of strength and skill, but I'd say more skill. That's such a specfic technique that it probably took him a very long time to master it.
Well if you remove prime Toph from any earth then she is blind but Kuvira isn't blind and could still punch you and shit so yeah. My boy Ghazan would probably body her unless she emediatley made like a pillar go through his body otherwise any Toph is fucked against lava.
Bruh if Toph and Kuvira fight somewhere there's gonna be some form of earth around them. They both need it to fight, so there is no if you remove Toph from any earth because that makes no sense. Toph is just folding Kuvira she's simply the more superior Earth bender and her feats show that. Ghazan would probably lose to her lmao. As long as Toph is touching some form of earth she can sense anything that's thrown at her, which is why she was able to dodge literal airbending from Korra. Lava is very slow moving, so Toph would sense Ghazan just threw some at her, all she gotta do is put up a giant rock defense to slow down the lava, go underground and sink him, and then crush him.
The doubt will always remain, the creators will never confirm or deny it. But imagine if Sokka was Lin's father... Tenzin and Lin would have been cousins, and they were dating XD
If Sokka is the father of anyone in this show, it's Varrick. Southern Water Tribe? Non-Bender? Genius? I could totally see the possibility of Sokka having a fling, and the young lady deciding not to tell him... Though, given the age difference, if there is a relation there, it would be grandfather, rather than father. Varrick looks to be in his 30s or 40s, so it seems possible that if Sokka and Suki started having a family young (I mean, it's implied they were active in The Southern Raiders), and their firstborn also had a child young... Mind you, this is pure conjecture, and based upon the assumption that Sokka is related to one of current crew of characters (other than being an uncle to Aang & Katara's kids, of course).
unpopular opinion: Kuvira could kill Toph with one good hit. I keep saying think piece saying that she was afraid of her, maybe bc she's a legend, but no bc Kuvira thinks she will loose. I still think that she would be against Toph, because she beat Toph's flesh and blood. if her direct blood gets folded, she's not doing better, especially at her age
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Did you guys know that the series ends.
Get fucked spoiled you on that one.
*“You give metalbenders a bad name!”*
Kuvira and even the reactors: Dead silent. Just watching the G.
Su has the absolute best pop-off moment of the season in her 1v1 here. Hats off to the animators.
Nah the Suyin vs Kuvira fight was too clean 😂. Also I’m confused why they didn’t just mess Kuvira up at the end when Toph pulled up
Too many soldiers by time they fight Kuvira and go for the weapon her men would've recovered by then
only the avatar beating Kuvira would restore balance. if the Beifong family did it it would be seen as nothin more than a jealous grab for power
@@lmaooof6521 Nah bro it’s just plot convenience lmao
@@created3612 He quoting Iroh
@@TheShadoDev Yeah I know Iroh said that but I’m just saying in this context it would’ve just been better to jump her right then and there
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Thanks for this 🤝
Su's metalbend are awesome another level
I'd argue Kuvira is more like Sozen, where she thinks he conquest is genuinely good for the whole world, is a charismatic leader but isn't so power hungry that she loses all sense of reason. By the time Ozai was in power the royal family was hopped up on the same propaganda and holier than though mentality that the rest of the nation was. All good intentions were out the window and it was just one man trying to force his superiority onto others and then in turn his subordinates did the same. Ozai is the aftermath of what something like Kuvira's cause leads to.
Notice how the Spirit Cannon sounds just like the energy beam that Vaatu fired? Pretty sure that was a deliberate choice on the part of the sound designers.
As for Toph and/or her daughters fighting Kuvira, well... Kuvira is an exceptionally talented bender, as well as being in her prime. I don't think Lin or Su alone could stop her, Kuvira could fight them to a standstill long enough to tire them out and pull off the endurance win. Lin and Su together, no, they'd take her down; problem is that there is a literal army stopping that from happening. And Toph? She came right out and said she's too old for this shit. Oh, she has superior knowledge, form, and technique. But Toph is also well past her prime, all it would take is one unexpected spasm or a knee/elbow deciding "we aren't doing this" to get her killed. (Only in my mid-40s, but I have permanent damage to one knee. I know what it's like to have a knee decide that today's word is "nope".)
good point i forgot vattu shot a kamehameha too
Disagree w the Oazi thing, Kuvita wants to take over the whole earth kingdom while Oazi wanted to take over the world
Also Kuvira wants 0 smoke with Toph
ozai still the best villain to me cause they make hate him for torturing zuko, and the 3 season build up for an ACTUAL EPIC FINAL FIGHT UNLIKE KORRA.
@@Safalmao true
lol..why did Su put metal on her body even as armor while fighting an expert metalbender? That scene could've turned into the equivalent of blood bending. Imagine Kuvira squeezing the life out of Su with that metal armor- tighter and tighter.
Based on her willingness to do that, it likely means that she's constantly bending the metal (since it's still a solid sheet) which prevents another metal bender from effectively bending it in response. In a ranged fight, it's an effective defense since it can block some of the sharp bits of metal and lets her divert her attention towards attacking.
you cant bend the alr bended element unless you're strong enough like yuh when katara fight hama bloodbending😂
Maybe Im over hyping/looking too deep into it but I think it's such an important comment that Toph made to Kurvira about giving metal benders a bad name that's the biggest disrespect coming from the OG
yeah not thay deep
A saw a post that say imagine how toph was when she felt aang or sokka last heartbeat and that was so emotional.
Seriously Toph is the only person in Avatar with baby daddy issues...did she get child support tho?🤔😆
Fun fact: This is the last time the original avatar characters appear in the series. (In the TV show, at least)
I really love what a train wreck Toph's family is. Not because I would wish that on anyone, but because having those kinds of struggles makes the characters human. AtlA has always been great at creating complex characters that aren't just your stereotypical hero group, and LoK continues their legacy just as complex. They have the same struggles in their lives anyone else has, and you can relate to these patterns because you see them in reality all the time.
Toph grew up effectively locked away, every little aspect in her life decided for her. So she naturally gravitated towards absolute freedom once she ran away with Team Avatar. She "learned" that not giving children their freedom to be themselves makes them miserable and that the ability to do whatever you want is the best you could ever have. The classic "child of very authoritarian parents grows up to become an anti-authoritarian parent" story. In her mind she did the best she could by not restricting her children - unknowingly leaving them without directions, having to figure everything out for themselves...
And it goes even further: Both of her daughters grow up to become rather authoritarian as a result of her lax parenting. Lin was already well on her way to it when we saw her in her teen years and seemingly never wavered in her iron grip as chief of police - but even Suyin, who used to be a rebel when she was younger, eventually ended up as the ruler of a city that shuts itself off from the rest of the world for security, and is initially fighting the very idea of her children leaving to find their own way...
Kuvira letting Toph go shows her limits . she would never dare to challenge Toph one on one , girl just kicked all her men with an earthquake without sweating . She can't take that risk
Kuvira could have had them all killed. Plot saved them. Toph is far too old
@@Spider-Man647 please , she didn't even use metal to deal with them 💁♀ clearly because she thought it was unnecessary .
why then did Kuvira let them go if she's so determined to get rid of her enemies ? if she's even ready to fight Korra and Sue ?
No one:
Spirit Cannon : AVADA KEDAVRA !!!!
just remember how powerful that canon blast is for the season finale.
"grand cannon" 😂
9:00 I said that simply because creators said so. They literally said Kuvira is more or less on the same level as prime toph and most of the people would say toph is better earthbender while Kuvira is better metalbender
Kuvira is not a better metalbender than Toph.
I think the main difference is their strengths in fighting styles rather than metal/earth bending skill. Kuvira is probably better at the more fluid, precise form of earth bending that developed in the modern age while Toph's generation focused more on the mountain moving, landscape-changing, likely-to-cause-extensive-property-damage style. Like Bolin, she's light on her feet, only digging in her toes at the exact second she's ready to strike. She's also more precise, doing more damage with less effort. I doubt Kuvira is as sensitive to minute changes in the earth's vibrations as Toph, who immediately realized Zhu Li was lying hundreds of feet away while Kuvira was deceived to her face and only later found out by logic (who else could have sabotaged the weapon twice?) and keen observation of her pocket. Neither does she show any display of overwhelming power that Bumi, Toph, or even Aang had. Still, she's more likely to dodge her opponents' powerful earthbending attacks and frustrate them with nothing more than the metal ornaments on her uniform and quick thinking.
“YOU GIVE METALBENDERS A BAD NAME” GET HER AGAIN FOR ME TOPHHHH
I thing the Bei Fong daughters are underrated in their fighting abilities.
I think that toph proved in this episode the fact that the best earthbender in the world is king bumi she is what 82 and is not willing to fight bumi at 112 yeah let just liberate my own city on my own and then kick some comet inhanced fire bender but
not willing≠not able, she’s a much better bender than Bumi
@@lmaooof6521 Ehh, I disagree with that Bumi is a much more agile Earth bender and his feats in general are way stronger. This man's was launching houses like they were lightweight balls and carved up an entire mountain, not to mention he literally threw a 20-30 story metal statue into the air, which means he also lifted the rock underneath that statue. If you add the weight of the houses he threw, plus the statue he launched, plus the rock underneath the statue that he had to have bent in order to move the statue in the first place, Bumi straight up launched well over a million tons of weight casually. This is not say Toph couldn't do this, but she's never performed feats that strong, so based off what we've seen Bumi is better.
@@controlman7490 Bumi isnt beter but stronger. He himself said to Ang that he is the strongest Earth bender he will ever see. And i gues by that he means raw power and not overall strength or skill. Toph has more finece.
@@stefankatsarov5806 That's also debatable because Bumi has shown tons of Earthbending skills as well. Creating quicksand, disappearing into the ground just by falling casually and he didn't even move his arms to bend the ground. He's made rock slabs and then surfed on those rock slabs during his fight with Aang. Also, most impressive of all is bending without moving. That's a combination of strength and skill, but I'd say more skill. That's such a specfic technique that it probably took him a very long time to master it.
@@controlman7490 Bumi didnt bend without moving, he moved his face/head. Still someting noone else coud do and its very impressive.
do STRANGER THINGS, you guys will LOVE IT. It’s like Harry Potter, first season/movie is Childish, than it gets super dark and creepy
The wait was too long
Right completely forgot they’re still watching this series
Well, I mean, they’re watching a lot of other shows too and have to edit them all. Try to be a little understanding
Cuz they got bodied in the comments a few episodes ago lol 😂
@@kylahicks7054 that too💀
@@kylahicks7054 really ?? Which one and why ?
Hopefully we don't have to wait this long for the last three episodes 🤞
The last 3 episodes of the show are A1
a1?
@19:11 We have been waiting for this 💪💪
You guys should watch the batman and spider man far from home
Well if you remove prime Toph from any earth then she is blind but Kuvira isn't blind and could still punch you and shit so yeah.
My boy Ghazan would probably body her unless she emediatley made like a pillar go through his body otherwise any Toph is fucked against lava.
Bruh if Toph and Kuvira fight somewhere there's gonna be some form of earth around them. They both need it to fight, so there is no if you remove Toph from any earth because that makes no sense. Toph is just folding Kuvira she's simply the more superior Earth bender and her feats show that. Ghazan would probably lose to her lmao. As long as Toph is touching some form of earth she can sense anything that's thrown at her, which is why she was able to dodge literal airbending from Korra. Lava is very slow moving, so Toph would sense Ghazan just threw some at her, all she gotta do is put up a giant rock defense to slow down the lava, go underground and sink him, and then crush him.
I really don’t think Sokka was the father of Suyin.
i think it makes sense
The doubt will always remain, the creators will never confirm or deny it. But imagine if Sokka was Lin's father... Tenzin and Lin would have been cousins, and they were dating XD
Sokka is not the type of person to abandon his kid and if he and toph did have a kid, everyone would know already
If Sokka is the father of anyone in this show, it's Varrick. Southern Water Tribe? Non-Bender? Genius? I could totally see the possibility of Sokka having a fling, and the young lady deciding not to tell him... Though, given the age difference, if there is a relation there, it would be grandfather, rather than father. Varrick looks to be in his 30s or 40s, so it seems possible that if Sokka and Suki started having a family young (I mean, it's implied they were active in The Southern Raiders), and their firstborn also had a child young... Mind you, this is pure conjecture, and based upon the assumption that Sokka is related to one of current crew of characters (other than being an uncle to Aang & Katara's kids, of course).
He could be Batars dad cause he kinda looks like Sokka.
get ready for the end of avatar bois :D
This episode is peak korra ngl
nah season 3 finally is peak korra
noti gang
Are y'all going to watch stranger things??
We all know suyin woulda won if it wasnt for plot
*Kuvira did nothing wrong.*
unpopular opinion: Kuvira could kill Toph with one good hit.
I keep saying think piece saying that she was afraid of her, maybe bc she's a legend, but no bc Kuvira thinks she will loose.
I still think that she would be against Toph, because she beat Toph's flesh and blood. if her direct blood gets folded, she's not doing better, especially at her age
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